The hosts kick off with a playful “prediction vs reality” moment after Trevor claims Tesla would never fit extra seats in the Model Y—then Tesla announces the Model Y Long Range/Long Wheelbase with a third row and six-seat layout. They debate real-world practicality (mostly for kids, not adults), ISOFIX use, and how the added space affects boot capacity. Range and value get compared against other EVs. Fuel-price talk continues, with the hosts arguing EV demand shifts won’t be instant. Two listener stories follow: an EV transition to a Geely EX5 and a business fleet electrification case with major fuel savings. The episode ends with a V8 Superutes driver, Christopher Forstner, discussing racing sponsorship and electrified work vehicles.
Trev admits that Tesla's 6 seater is a cracker, but perhaps not for the number of seats.
Adrian calls in with the story of his new Geely EX5
And we talk to Uniden's new Superute driver. We discover his business saving big bucks from moving to electrified vehicles - plus his amazing movie car collection!
"Thanks to NRMA Insurance and UNIDAN. ... They're also one of Australia's largest insurers of electric vehicles and we've spoken to them before on the show."
NRMA Insurance is a big insurance company in Australia. They’re talking about how they insure electric cars and how that affects repair shops and services.
NRMA Insurance is a major Australian insurer. In this episode, they’re mentioned in the context of insuring electric vehicles and supporting the service/after-repairs ecosystem.
"And of course UNIDAN Smart Dash Cam, Stephen. ... Get one with a rear camera. ... UNIDAN award winning dash cams and get the model with the R in the name because that stands for rear camera as well."
UNIDAN makes dash cams. They’re recommending one that includes a rear camera so you have footage from both the front and back.
UNIDAN Smart Dash Cam is a dash-cam product line being promoted on the show. The hosts emphasize choosing a model with a rear camera for better coverage and incident recording.
"The wheelbase is, so the, well, if you don't understand cars, wheelbase is the distance between the front axle and the rear axle."
Wheelbase is the length of the car measured from the front wheels to the back wheels. A longer wheelbase usually means more room inside and can make the ride feel more stable.
Wheelbase is the distance between a car’s front axle and rear axle. It strongly affects interior space (especially rear legroom) and ride/handling characteristics.
"And there are ISOFIX points for baby seats in all four of the rear seats, which is awesome."
ISOFIX is a set of built-in hooks in the car made for child seats. It’s designed so you can click the seat in more easily and more safely.
ISOFIX (also written as i-Size/ISOFIX depending on region) is a standardized child-seat mounting system that uses built-in anchors in the car. It makes installing a baby seat easier and helps reduce incorrect fitment.
"And to Tesla's credit... I do love a couple of massive things about their design, and that is space. Frunk and rear boot, unbelievable space."
A frunk is like a trunk at the front of the car. Because electric cars don’t need an engine up there, you can store things in that space.
A frunk is the front trunk on many electric vehicles, where there’s typically no traditional engine up front. It provides extra storage space, which can be a big usability advantage for daily driving and road trips.
"Captain's chairs can go down as well. So you can have the whole thing as a, you know, life flat, if you want."
Captain’s chairs are separate seats, not a single bench. Because they’re individual, they can sometimes fold or move to make it easier to get to the back and carry more stuff.
Captain’s chairs are individual, separated seats (often in the second row) instead of a continuous bench. In minivans and some EVs, they can be moved or folded to improve access and increase usable cargo space.
"Like there are heated and ventilated seats in the captain's chairs. That's a very difficult thing to achieve in an independently moving chair."
Heated seats warm you up, and ventilated seats blow air to keep you cooler. It’s a comfort feature that can make a big difference in extreme weather.
Heated seats warm the occupant, while ventilated seats use fans and airflow through the seat to reduce heat buildup. Together they improve comfort across hot and cold climates, but they require more complex seat hardware than standard seats.
"Something that my Kia Carnival had. So even if you had your third row up in the Kia Carnival, so you've got seven seats,"
The Kia Carnival is a minivan built for families. It’s known for having lots of space, including cargo space even when the back seats are up.
The Kia Carnival is a large family minivan known for practical packaging—especially how much cargo space remains even with the third row in use. The speaker uses it as a benchmark for “deep” usable storage.
"As nearly all the Australian Tesla vehicles are. But I believe Australia is one of the very first markets to get it."
Tesla is the electric-car company in this conversation. They’re talking about which Tesla models are coming to Australia first and how they’re being made.
Tesla is the EV manufacturer being discussed, and the episode segment focuses on how Tesla vehicles are arriving in Australia and which models/variants are available first. The speaker also connects Tesla’s manufacturing and distribution to early market timing.
"800 kilometre range on the battery, which is just unheard of."
Kilometre range is how far the EV can go on one full charge. The real number can change depending on how you drive and the weather.
“Kilometre range” is the distance an EV can travel on a single charge, usually expressed as a rated number. It’s a key metric for EV buyers, but it can vary a lot with speed, weather, driving style, and battery temperature.
"it had this, it has a very distinct rear spoiler like it has an extra lip on the on the on the rear tail."
A rear spoiler is the little wing/spoiler on the back of the car. It can help the car’s shape work better in the air, and it can also be a visual clue to which version it is.
A rear spoiler is an aerodynamic add-on at the back of the car, often used to improve airflow and stability. On EVs and other cars, small spoiler/lip changes can also help distinguish trims or updated versions.
"BMW Brennan said, how many hours from Tesla won't release a six-seater to it being released?"
A “six-seater” just means the car can hold six people. In an electric car, that can be tricky because the battery takes up space, so it’s a practical detail people care about.
A “six-seater” refers to a vehicle designed to accommodate six passengers. For EV buyers, seating layout affects practicality, packaging, and how much space remains for batteries and cargo.
"I stand by the fact that I was broadly right. They didn't put seats in the back of the car in one of one... I'm making it ludicrous mode. That's it."
“Ludicrous mode” is a Tesla setting that makes the car feel much faster. It’s basically the “go as hard as possible” acceleration mode.
“Ludicrous mode” is a performance setting associated with certain Tesla models, designed to increase power delivery for quicker acceleration. It typically changes throttle response and power limits to maximize launch performance.
"So what did you look at, mate? And tell us what, first of all, what you test drove and then reveal what you went with."
A test drive is when you take the car out for a real drive before you buy it. With electric cars, it’s a good way to see how it feels and how far it can go in everyday driving.
A test drive is the hands-on evaluation you do before buying a car. For EVs, test drives are especially important because they let you experience throttle response, braking feel, cabin comfort, and—most importantly—real-world driving range.
"[904.9s] So I test drove an Ato3 on my own and then I was suggesting to the wife that I thought
[914.9s] might be a good idea to go EV and was spruicking that vehicle.
[920.5s] Was that a hard was that hard to convince her, mate?"
EV means electric vehicle. They’re talking about moving to an electric car and figuring out which one fits their family and lifestyle.
EV stands for electric vehicle. The discussion is about switching from a conventional vehicle to an EV, using test drives and family needs (especially space and towing considerations) to decide what to buy.
"Well, I don't know. We've got a Land Rover Discovery 4, so that does turn your camper trailer and stuff."
They mention their Land Rover Discovery 4 SUV. It’s the vehicle they use for towing things like a camper trailer.
The Land Rover Discovery 4 is a mid-size SUV used here as the family’s non-EV vehicle. The hosts mention it because it can handle towing duties like pulling a camper trailer.
"And there was no range anxiety or anything like that. And we found a local charger to top it up."
Range anxiety just means worrying your EV won’t have enough battery to get where you need to go. It usually shows up when you’re still learning how far your car can go and where charging is available.
Range anxiety is the worry that an electric vehicle won’t have enough battery to reach the destination or the next charging stop. It’s common for first-time EV owners, especially when planning longer trips or unfamiliar routes.
"Stick with me because we're going to we're going to talk throbbing V8 petrol gas as they call it in the States. We're going to get we're going to go old school here"
That phrase means a car with a V8 engine that burns petrol. It’s the classic “gas car” setup people often compare to electric cars.
“V8 petrol gas” refers to a V8 engine configuration running on gasoline (petrol). In racing discussions, it highlights the sound and character of traditional internal-combustion powertrains versus electric motors.
"You are joining us because you've been backed in 2026 by our great sponsors, Uniden and Brad and the team at Uniden always love to put up, put a shine of light on the people that they're supporting."
Uniden is a consumer electronics brand known for products like radar and dash-cam-related devices, and it appears here as a sponsor. Sponsorships like this are common in motorsport to connect brands with racing audiences.
“Top 10s” means finishing in the top ten of the race results. It’s a way to measure how well the driver and team are doing.
“Top 10s” means finishing a race in the top ten positions. In racing, it’s a common performance benchmark for competitiveness, consistency, and points potential.
"when they had the one round, but it was also in the paddock. Uniden is the perfect sponsor for V8 super youths because..."
The paddock is the team area at a race track. It’s where cars are serviced and where you’ll often see sponsors and team activity.
The paddock is the area where teams park, prepare cars, and work on them between sessions. It’s also where sponsors are often visible and where fans may interact with drivers and teams.
"Yeah, the regenerative braking. So there is a lot."
When you slow down in an EV, it can “charge” the battery a little instead of just using the brakes. That helps reduce brake wear and improves efficiency.
Regenerative braking is how an EV slows down while turning its electric motor into a generator. Instead of wasting energy as heat in the brakes, it recaptures some energy and sends it back to the battery.
"And just for a second, it's pretty wild to realize that Woolworths went to electric delivery trucks and they've gone."
Woolworths is a major retail brand that has used electric delivery trucks as part of its logistics operations. Mentioning a mainstream retailer helps illustrate that EV adoption isn’t limited to niche fleets.
"And just for a second, it's pretty wild to realize that Woolworths went to electric delivery trucks and they've gone."
These are delivery trucks that run on electricity instead of fuel. Businesses use them for local deliveries, and they can be cheaper to run and easier to maintain over time.
Electric delivery trucks are battery-electric vehicles used for last-mile logistics. They’re often adopted by retailers because they can reduce operating costs and simplify maintenance versus diesel fleets.
"So have you got have you get it out the DeLorean with like the flux capacitor and all that stuff in it as well? It's got the flux capacitor, the plutonium chamber."
The flux capacitor is a made-up part from the Back to the Future movies. It’s the gadget people associate with the DeLorean’s time-travel powers.
The flux capacitor is a fictional device from Back to the Future that’s said to be required to generate the conditions for time travel. In the transcript, it’s mentioned as part of the DeLorean’s “time machine” setup.
"It's got the flux capacitor, the plutonium chamber. So, mate, so when you hit 88 miles an hour..."
The plutonium chamber is a fictional “power” part from the Back to the Future movies. It’s not something you’d find in a real DeLorean—it’s part of the story.
The plutonium chamber is another fictional component from Back to the Future, described as the power source for the time-travel system. The speaker lists it alongside the flux capacitor as part of the DeLorean’s setup.
"So, mate, so when you hit 88 miles an hour, does you see some serious shit or what? It's funny, the speedo, and they give it to 85."
In the movies, the DeLorean only starts time travel at 88 mph. Here they’re joking about the speedometer and how it relates to that famous number.
“88 miles an hour” is the famous Back to the Future trigger speed where the DeLorean is said to activate time travel. The transcript also mentions the speedometer being “given it to 85,” which is likely a joke about the car’s gauge calibration or a modified setup.
"So if you don't know what that is, that's the Ghostbusters car. Yes, I've got the Lego version, but that's about it, mate."
They’re talking about the famous Ghostbusters vehicle from the movies. It’s become a recognizable car project for fans to recreate or modify.
The “Ghostbusters car” is the iconic ambulance/vehicle from the Ghostbusters franchise. In car culture, it’s a common reference point for builds because it has a distinctive look and a clear identity.
"So we're doing that and we're hoping that she put a BYD motor. You're building from that car, the Ghostbusters ambulance, but with BYD electrification. Exactly, so it's going to be fully EV."
BYD is a company that makes electric cars and batteries. They’re saying they want to use BYD parts to turn this car into a fully electric vehicle.
BYD is a major Chinese EV and battery manufacturer. In this segment, they’re talking about using BYD components (“BYD electrification”) to convert the project vehicle to a fully electric setup.
"when dad brings them to school in a Batmobile one day and her be the next."
The “Batmobile” is a made-up car from Batman. They’re using it as a fun joke to say the future could be really exciting—especially with electric cars.
“Batmobile” is a fictional, pop-culture vehicle associated with Batman rather than a specific production car model. In this context, it’s being used as a playful exaggeration for how cool the future could feel with EVs.
"But if you've just got an electric car, you don't have to have a batmobile or a Herbie. You just have an electric car that you love for one month or 10 years."
An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery instead of gasoline. You usually charge it at home or at public chargers, and it can slow down using the motor when you lift off the accelerator.
An electric car is a vehicle powered primarily by one or more electric motors drawing energy from a battery pack. The big day-to-day differences versus a gasoline car are how it’s charged, how energy is used, and how driving feel can change with regen braking.
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This is Two Blokes Talking Electric Cars with Trevor Long and Stephen Fennig.
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I didn't know which button to push.
You stuffed that up, mate.
I didn't know which button to push.
I was Trevor Long for a moment and you were seeing me.
What's going on?
You wish.
Two Blokes Talking Electric Cars.
Thanks to the great people at NRMA Insurance helping Australians protect what matters most
for over a hundred years and many more to come.
They're also one of Australia's largest insurers of electric vehicles and we've spoken to
them before on the show.
If you want to understand what they are doing in terms of the service industry and the aftermarket,
after repairs industry and those kind of things, go back and listen to those episodes.
And of course UNIDAN Smart Dash Cam, Stephen.
Get a dash cam.
Absolutely.
Get one with a rear camera.
It's your record of what happens on the road and UNIDAN award winning dash cams and get
the model with the R in the name because that stands for rear camera as well.
You want to be covered front and back.
So yeah, check them out.
You know what the R stands for?
Smart dash cams.
Ah, rear.
Rear.
And reassurance.
What about that?
That's the new logo.
That's a new...
Ah, for reassurance.
The new motto.
Yeah.
Now listen, I need to start this week's show with a very important topic and Stephen knows
this very well.
Stephen knows very well over 15 years we've been podcasting together and I've made some
bold claims.
Yeah.
I've made some very bold claims.
Most people will reflect on the 2013, 2014 when I said Apple will never make a big screen
phone.
Yeah, that's famous.
And then they announced the plus.
Thank you very much to the team at Apple for the iPhone 6 Plus.
I predicted it by the way.
For the years of ribbing that Stephen gave me and still continues to give me.
But I lean into that because what it proves is I'm not, I'm an independent thinker, okay?
Now last week, and I just want to make it clear, this show is not live.
If you're watching this on YouTube, it's not live, okay?
We record this.
It was recorded several days ago and in some cases several weeks ago.
Some cases several weeks, okay?
We're very busy people.
Yeah.
Sometimes we record days or weeks in advance, right?
Stack and pack and rack.
Yeah.
So on the weekend Stephen, I was driving around thinking the episode comes out on Monday morning
and I remember what I said in that episode.
I remember vividly what I said and I thought, should I go to the office?
I remember you should too.
Should I go to the office and edit that out?
No, too late.
And I thought, no.
Too late.
Stand by it.
I stand by my feelings.
Now, I want to articulate very clearly to the narks who've commented on this.
What I said, what I said was, it'll never happen, but what I was referring to, and I
said it, was whacking two rear seats in the Model Y.
Yeah, so I don't think we've even mentioned the fact that it's...
No, because I haven't want to get to that.
Because it is, yeah, I remember you saying they'll never let people sit that close to
the back window.
Because in America with the Model S, you could get two extra seats in the back and that was
never a...
The Model S.
Yes.
Really?
Wow.
They were rearward-facing seats very early days.
Right.
Because Elon had so many children, he had to fit them in a car, and this was before the
Model X, I think.
Yeah, right.
So it's a people mover.
When our caller said something about six seats, I said, that'll never happen because
Australian regulations would never allow for it.
Because it was at the time, I think, of recording, it was a rumor that was about to announce it
and it wasn't official yet.
But again, I don't read rumors.
But Trevor just dived headfirst into it and went, boom, said no way.
And lo and behold, Tesla, they've done it.
Model Y.
L. L.
L for long range and L for long wheelbase.
So it's actually bigger car.
It's a bigger car.
So if you go to the Tesla website and, for example, bring up the side-on angle view of
it, you can see very quickly, Stephen, just look at my screen, but people can do this
themselves.
You can see very clearly that it's frankly a vastly different car.
So it's got a bigger rear end.
The wheelbase is, so the, well, if you don't understand cars, wheelbase is the distance
between the front axle and the rear axle.
It's longer, centimetres, right?
And then there's a slightly different configuration to the boot and the boot lid and the roof
so that you can fit in.
And basically, they've put two seats in the rear.
They've made the middle row, what was traditionally the back row captain's chairs.
So there's a walk-through in the middle and therefore it's a six-seat car.
I stand by the fact that you could never put six seats in the original Model Y, but this
is a different Model Y, but good on your Tesla.
Here's the thing.
I think it's a great idea.
At $74,900, I want to be very clear, though, every video I've watched, this is not a six-seater
you can put adults in the back of.
Ain't no adult sitting in that back row.
It's a pretty small space.
Mate, it's no-own importance.
So it's a family.
It's a family.
So you couldn't have grown-ups in that.
I would argue, once you get to teenagers, you're out.
My Harry would probably squeeze in there, but he wouldn't love a long drive in it, because
kids need a little bit of leg room and Jackson would never fit.
And there are ISOFIX points for baby seats in all four of the rear seats, which is awesome.
But again, I go, that's great, but can we just be practical about this for a minute?
Have you ever tried putting a baby in a capsule?
It's bloody hard.
You do it just through the door.
Imagine if you have to lean through, go down a little aisle way, and then lean.
Mate, I'm telling you, that's a nightmare.
So I think booster seats, maybe, is a good one for the third row, baby seats for the
middle row.
I can see the difference, yeah.
It's a smart move.
I'll pay that, because a lot of people do just want that little bit extra.
And to Tesla's credit, and people think I hate them completely, but I do love a couple
of massive things about their design, and that is space.
Frunk and rear boot, unbelievable space.
And in this, there's still the deep, deep...
I was going to say, yeah, so the seats come really far back.
They do, but there's still...
It does...
You've got less boot space than the normal Model Y.
Absolutely.
But the third row can go down.
So it can be down in second row.
So you can get that space back.
Captain's chairs can go down as well.
So you can have the whole thing as a, you know, life flat, if you want.
And look, a lot of little things here.
Like there are heated and ventilated seats in the captain's chairs.
That's a very difficult thing to achieve in an independently moving chair.
But that boot space is still, you know, that really deep boot space?
Yes, yes.
Something that my Kia Carnival had.
So even if you had your...
The Model S had that too.
Even if you had your third row up in the Kia Carnival, so you've got seven seats.
You still had depth.
All your shopping could fit in there.
Even you could even put some luggage.
Yeah.
So they've executed it perfectly to create a lot of space.
Now, this is, I think it's coming to Australia first.
Wow.
Like it's being built in China.
Yep.
As nearly all the Australian Tesla vehicles are.
But I believe Australia is one of the very first markets to get it.
There's only one Model A, Model YL Premium.
That's it.
So the others are just the regular model.
With 680 kilometres of range.
Yeah, that's remarkable.
Dude, forget the third row.
Put those seats down.
Yeah.
And just take it for the range.
Absolutely.
Do you know what I mean?
Like...
So how flush do the seats fold down though?
So...
Look, it's not flush flush, but it's pretty bloody good.
But there's space if you need it.
Yes.
Yeah.
It creates space to, you know, really put things in.
Because the long range Model Y on its own, $68,000 is 600 kilometres range.
Yeah.
680 kilometres range is what you buy.
That's the highest range you can get on the Model Y.
Yeah.
That's one of the highest range you can get in an electric car.
Yeah.
The nearest you get is the Model Y Premium 600 and then the L Premium is 680.
Yeah.
That's right.
I mean, they'd be desperate to crack the 700, wouldn't they?
Yeah.
Desperate to crack the 700 range.
Well, they're getting close.
Yeah.
Like you're looking at, you know, I'm a Mercedes guy, the new CLA Electric, apparently.
He's got this new battery chemistry that they've got that is like they're talking 800
kilometre range on the battery, which is just unheard of.
It's going to be a crazy thing.
Absolutely.
Look, I can see the mark of this and on the road, I think you'll be able to spot it because
it had this, it has a very distinct rear spoiler like it has an extra lip on the on the on
the rear tail.
Yep.
So I think it'll stand out because it still looks very much like it's still the same slick
design that they've the upgraded design, isn't it?
It looks good.
The top of the boot lid kind of just has this little.
Okay.
You'll see that now.
Little lip that I think will be obvious on the road.
That distinguishes it from the others, doesn't it?
Yeah.
You're right, Tuss.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I think the YL badge will be on it as well.
Of course.
Yeah.
Wow.
And you know, that you don't have a lot of people d-badge their Teslas.
You know, back in the day, back in the day, it happened back in your day as well, they
would d-badge them because they gave away the battery size, you know, 75d, 90 and stuff.
People didn't want to know.
I kept mine on there.
I didn't care.
A lot of people didn't want people to know the battery size because that was the range
or they used to keep.
I think it was the 100.
Was it the 100?
Yeah.
They had the ludicrous smoke.
That's right.
So on this one, you'd absolutely wear the YL as a badge of honour because what you're
saying there is you're buying 680K's range.
Yeah.
And more space as well.
Now, $34,000 really starts to push the Model Y price range, but as we were saying earlier,
because we're currently driving a couple of cars, I've got a Hyundai Kona, which is
like $60,000.
What did I say?
$60,000.
You know, that's no any of this, but you know, traditional cars, traditional car brands
are charging this kind of money for EVs.
So this is why Tesla is able to get this conversation going.
You're now selling 680K's range along with the Tesla charging network.
It starts to become super compelling.
What gets close to this in terms of space and range?
Is this a standout or...?
Yeah.
Ranges.
This is absolutely out of the park.
Because that customer who wants more seats and the range, like does the EV9, what sort
of range is the EV9?
The EV9 is a massive car.
It's also nearly 50% more of the car price.
It's a huge, it's a bigger beast, but the EV9 is like $500K's range.
I think $500K to $550K is what you expect from most cars these days, especially cars
of this size.
So, yeah, I mean, it's not like BYD's got a C-line that has six seats.
Yeah.
So, yeah, well, mate, I know that you've got a tenuous relationship with Tesla, your attitude
towards Tesla.
But you've got to hand it to them.
This is kind of a breakthrough vehicle for their family.
I think so.
I think it's probably underplayed in how important it really is.
And look, it was fascinating to read a few of the comments on last week's episodes,
past one of the ones having a go at me.
Because last week we brought up the fuel cost versus the rising cost of fuel versus charging
it home on solar.
And I think there was one person that was like, it's a bit hard to laugh about, you
know, the war going on.
I'm like, just calm down.
We weren't laughing.
We weren't doing that at all.
The thumbnail might have had a bit of a laughing in it, but that's just for fun and
clicks.
But, you know, we were making a point that this is, and I saw this morning on the show,
there was a bloke talking about, you know, big rig trucks going electric and we need
to break our dependence on this.
Yeah, I heard a guy on the radio the other day, actually, a truckie who says, look, I'm
losing money.
I can't afford to run the business anymore.
A couple of comments for the verb says, another great episode.
It'll be interesting to see what uptick there is an EV sales with a fuel cost.
I was asked about this by someone for an article and I said, look, I don't think it's
going to be instant because you don't suddenly overnight go, okay, I'm going to spend
$60,000 on an EV because my fuel costs are going up.
I think it's an incremental change.
I think in three months we might have noticed a slight tick, but I don't think it'll have
a meaningful impact.
I think people looking at petrol prices and that are maybe thinking of a new car, it's
now going to put EV, I think, front of mind.
Like you said, they're not going to go out and buy one tomorrow, but it's going to put
it front of mind or, as I said last week, if they're on the fence thinking, should I
or not, this will I reckon tip them over to the more to the EV side.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's a lot of people in the comments, by the way, on YouTube with great stories
and I continue to reply to you, send us a text, 0477657657, like to these people, someone
that said, I've been on the EV journey since 2019, full electric home, full electric home
battery.
Our daughter has a BYDC line seven.
Send us a text.
Let's talk.
That's a great story.
Let's talk on the show.
Frost CB2.
I went from three gas cars, an F-150 Corvette and a Honda Odyssey to three electric cars
and now sold on the roof.
Oh, mate.
Get on the line.
What can happen in 18 months, mate?
Hello.
Give us a ring.
What are we doing?
So, yeah, some great commentary there and thank you to the comments like, well, that
tells Tesla YL comment age like sour milk.
That's greatly appreciated.
And yeah, BMW Brennan said, how many hours from Tesla won't release a six-seater to
it being released?
I said it was about 72 hours from the time of recording, legitimately.
I think it was announced on Friday and we recorded on Wednesday.
There you go.
Sorry.
Thanks very much.
What?
Trevor at least had the bravery to get out there with his opinion.
He was terribly wrong, but you know, that's what happens.
I stand by the fact that I was broadly right.
They didn't put seats in the back of the car in one of one.
What I respect about Trevor is if he makes a mistake, he makes it at 100 miles an hour.
He does it.
He just commits to it.
I'm making it ludicrous mode.
That's it.
That's the way you do it, mate.
But seriously, if you've got an EV story to tell, let's have a chat.
It's so much fun talking to and hearing from...
It's better talking to us than in the comments.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And we're nice bikes.
We're happy to have a chat.
Oh, yeah.
We're not going to bite you.
Yeah.
No.
I mean, I might have a go at you, but you'll see how it turns out.
If you drive a Model Y, Trevor might have a crack at you.
Yeah.
If you've purchased or you put your money down for a while, let us know why.
I'd love to know.
Because I'm curious about that rear row and how it's been used.
When are they going to hit the road?
May.
June, they say.
Right.
So people are ordering now not until a couple of months away.
It's only a couple of months away.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
They must be pumping them out in the factory already.
Pretty good.
All right.
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G'day, Adrian.
G'day, guys.
How you going?
May, really good.
We had you on the show before and I think you had a story about a drama with your Mazda
2 getting destroyed by falling windows?
A reminder of that quick story.
Yeah, that was the case.
I had parked behind my work and someone decided they needed some ventilation and they fell
out in their hands and ended up going through the roof of the Mazda 2.
Oh, no.
So at that point.
Is that the car you're replacing or is a different car we're replacing with an EV?
No, that's it.
We decided to move into the EV space after that incident and thought, well, it's about
time and it ended up being worthwhile considering what's going on in the world now.
So what did you look at, mate?
And tell us what, first of all, what you test drove and then reveal what you went with.
All right.
So I test drove an Ato3 on my own and then I was suggesting to the wife that I thought
might be a good idea to go EV and was spruicking that vehicle.
Was that a hard was that hard to convince her, mate?
Was it was she on board from the start or did you have to launch a marketing campaign?
No, she was on board from the start.
She was she was keen to get in that space as well.
Like just we only needed the bigger vehicle, the diesel for towing.
So right in this.
This car was going to be the run around car.
So we ended up I showed her that one and she said, no, that's too small.
So OK.
And we went and had a look at MG, have a look at a few vehicles there.
They also were tied into a Kia dealership.
But we test drove the MG four, which I found that was pretty nice.
So that memory will drive.
So it was nice little different.
Yeah, it was good car.
But then again, it was a bit too bit too cramped to fit the family in comfortably.
So I went looking for other alternatives.
And then we settled on the the EX5.
The Gilly, the Gilly, the Gilly EX5.
That's what was size, price.
What was the thing that really made you stop and not look further?
Well, it was a bit bigger than the others.
It seemed there's certainly a massive amount of space in the back,
even with a tall person sitting in the driver's position.
There is a bucket load of room in the back seats.
So with the kids growing up and you just want to give them a bit of room
so they're not cramped in the back.
So and you're still left with a decent amount of boot space as well.
How many kids you got?
How many?
I've got two, I've got a 15 and he's just overtaken me in height.
So it's so he needs a bit of room.
It doesn't look like stopping and the 12 year old.
Yeah, I mean, we were just we were just talking about the Model Y
long range and you know, at this point of life, you know, you need space
that the kids can use, not just a seat they can sit in.
And that becomes a big, big part of the decision.
So it's a good car, good space in the GLE for sure.
Have you how long have you had it for since we last spoke?
We picked it up in just early January.
So it worked out all right.
So you've had it a couple of months.
So what's give us your early review, mate?
What do you think?
Off found that the drive is very nice.
It's a smooth, smooth drive, quick enough.
It's not a rocket ship, but you know, zero to one hundred and seven seconds or something.
So what do you need a rocket ship for?
That's look, we've had this debate much earlier in the show's life.
But I still I love the fact that you can count those things.
But who needs a rocket ship?
Like, what are we running away from?
So let's be practical.
Yeah, also, your kids are going to drive soon.
I don't want them driving a rocket ship.
Yeah, there's that too.
That's a good point. Yeah.
Absolutely.
So it's it's doesn't have the the front that a lot of others have.
Yeah, it's rare to be a deal breaker either.
And what are you doing at home with charging, mate?
What did what did you what did you start doing?
What have you ended up doing in terms of a charging?
That's through in a granny charger.
Yep. So that that's been fine for us so far.
We've got I don't know if you remember, we had the new solar battery going to be put in.
So that's been done.
Um, so it's been able to be charged off the roof, essentially, so it's working out well.
Right. So that's so good.
You've and especially, as you say, in the current circumstances, which we talked about last week,
you know, people's petrol prices are going up by not just a couple of percent.
They're going up in a big way.
And it all and again, we're not we're not laughing in the face of petrol car owners.
We're just making observations here.
Fact is people that do and a lot of people listening to us who we've spoken to do
spreadsheets on the cost savings of owning an EV.
Those cost savings are now dramatically higher because the fuel cost would have been higher
if you were still in a petrol car.
So you've kind of shaken the grid and the fuel reliance at the perfect time there, mate.
Yeah, it's worked out very well for us.
So, um, yeah, it's a great little car, lovely to drive and gets us where we need to go around Sydney, essentially.
So is it we're not doing any big trips?
You said this is your run around car.
So is there a second car in the family?
And is that potentially going to be an EV in the future too?
Well, I don't know.
We've got a Land Rover Discovery 4, so that does turn your camper trailer and stuff.
So it feels like we're away away from that then.
Yeah, anything you've noticed as an EV owner over three months now,
anything you've noticed that you wish you'd have known beforehand?
Not that you regret or don't like, but we should have kind of learned about beforehand.
Uh, not really.
Um, it's it's been a fairly smooth transition, really.
Um, haven't had too many things to worry about.
We haven't run, you know, shy of juice at all.
So we did in its first week of ownership, we went away camping.
So we had that we had to split the family to get to get us up there.
And the Gilly ended up going all the way up to just beyond Newcastle.
So so that worked out well.
And there was no range anxiety or anything like that.
And we found a local charger to top it up.
And you've nailed it wasn't wasn't a big drama.
Once I think once you get over the people have a bit of apprehension.
First time EV owners thinking, oh, where am I going to charge it?
And that's an apprehension to before they even buy to suffer some people.
But I think once once you get out there, plug that car in and see the
availability of charges and how it all works.
I think you your confidence grows.
Yeah, I did have a drama with the dealership when we went to pick up the vehicle.
So that was an interesting scenario.
What happened then?
We'd both signed the contract and, you know, it was all squared away
and it had the inclusions and we had various little bits
thrown in like your car mats and, you know, we go blowing and things like that.
And there was also at the time, a promotion that Geely were doing,
which was a $2,000 gift card.
So I'm just trying to incentivize people to get moving with the EV space.
But that was conspicuously removed when we picked it up at the contract.
But the final pickup contract.
So yeah, the gift card, the $2,000 gift card.
That's right.
Yeah, no, no, no, it's being factored into the price already.
I said, ah, good luck.
Good try, folks.
I'm tipping.
I'm tipping.
Adrian didn't let him get away with that one.
No, no, there was a bit of chewing and throwing.
I said, well, if you want this car to move away from your lot today,
you're going to have to sort some stuff out.
So we did that.
There was a, you know, they bought out the boss and all that sort of stuff.
And yeah, stuck to my guns, but we got well done.
That's what you're going to do, mate.
Stick to your guns and you factor that into the purchasing of the car.
I'm sorry, folks.
The contract is what the contract says.
You can't change it afterwards.
So good on you for sticking to your guns, mate.
That's the absolute way it should be.
Well, mate, congratulations on the new car, mate.
I went to ring the salesperson the next day, actually.
Yeah, well, that's.
I went to ring the next next day, a ring the salesperson,
but he conspicuously decided to move from that location.
I don't know if he had an issue with his boss.
It's a wow.
He's no longer with the company.
Good luck.
That was the message I got.
Yeah, congratulations.
Enjoy the car and many, many kilometers of fun electric motoring, mate.
Thanks, boys.
Actually, Vos and the initial inquiry as well.
So you really helped out and it's been great
having you guys involved in the decision making process.
Well, that means a lot.
We appreciate it.
And look, if you learn things along the way, teach us
and you'll teach everyone else that's listening to us as well.
So, mate, that's what the show's for.
Beautiful.
Thanks, mate.
Cheers. Thanks for getting in touch.
Great to hear from him there.
And look, that's the thing.
It's like it's so exciting to get a car.
But we look at that little last thing that left a little sour taste.
Little tiny one.
We don't think it'll learn.
You want to you want to, you know, seal the deal.
And, you know, yeah.
Someone said he just had that little, you know,
he's happy with the car, but that little experience.
He's talking about it here on the show.
People are going to hear that.
Yeah, that's that's the way it is, folks.
But if you've got an experience, good or bad, loving a new car,
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