A deep dive into Porsche's latest Cayenne electric, boasting 1193 horsepower, making it the most powerful road car from the brand. The hosts discuss its impressive specs, including a 0-60 time of 2.5 seconds and a quarter-mile run in the 9-second range. They also explore the innovative features like an active spoiler and advanced charging technology. The episode transitions into a discussion about the value of iconic 911 models, comparing the 911 ST, 911 R, and 3RS 4.0, debating which is the most special and worth the investment. The conversation touches on Porsche's evolving market strategy and the future of electric vehicles.
In this episode, we're giving thanks to our people and diving into some major Porsche news that's shaking up the community. We kick things off with the all-new electric Cayenne—dropping November 20th with numbers that'll make your jaw drop. The top-tier Turbo model pumps out 1,193 hp with nearly the same torque figure, launching 0-60 in 2.3 seconds and crushing the quarter mile in 9 seconds. Starting at $160k, it features active aero in the front bumper, a rear roof spoiler that doubles as an air brake, active rear bumper fins, and Porsche's first curved center screen. Is this the EV that finally makes sense for Porsche purists, or just another heavy SUV with big numbers?
Then we revisit a story long-time listeners might remember—the Porsche vs. The Collection lawsuit in Miami. Porsche wanted The Collection to build an exclusive dealership on their own dime, but Miami real estate being what it is, The Collection passed. Porsche allegedly responded by restricting allocations, putting them in what The Collection calls a "death spiral." Now they're suing Porsche for $300 million, and it's heading to trial in Miami. This got ugly fast—what does this say about how Porsche handles dealer relationships?
We also tackle the 911 S/T pricing saga—these are trading between $635k and $805k with a median around $700k. Owners and journalists are calling it "the best modern 911 ever built." But haven't we heard that before? The GT3 RS 4.0, the 911 R—each generation seems to claim that crown. We break down the specs: the RS 4.0 with its legendary Mezger engine (500 hp, 9,000 rpm, 2,999 lbs), the 911 R (500 hp, 8,600 rpm, 3,000 lbs), and the S/T (525 hp, 9,000 rpm, 3,056 lbs). With only 600 RS 4.0s, 991 Rs, and 1,963 S/Ts produced, can they all hold that title? Let's discuss what truly makes a 911 "the best ever."
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"So announcement today, you're listening to this. Obviously it's going to be Thursday, but they released the Cayenne electric. Kind of surprising."
The Porsche Cayenne is a high-end SUV made by Porsche. The electric version means it's powered by electricity instead of gasoline, which is better for the environment.
The Porsche Cayenne is a luxury SUV that combines performance with practicality. The electric version represents Porsche's shift towards electrification in their lineup, offering a sustainable alternative without sacrificing the brand's performance heritage.
"Um, at full tilt, 1193 horsepower. So it is in the. So many horses."
Horsepower measures how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and more powerful the car can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to describe the power output of engines. In automotive terms, it indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, influencing a vehicle's acceleration and top speed.
"It's in the 1000 club. So this is officially the most powerful road car Porsche has ever made."
The '1000 club' is a term used for cars that have at least 1000 horsepower. It means these cars are incredibly powerful and fast.
The '1000 club' refers to a group of high-performance production cars that produce 1000 horsepower or more. Being part of this exclusive group signifies extreme performance capabilities.
"It runs a quarter mile in nine seconds, not flat, but in the nines, probably just like 9.899 or something like that right under 10."
The quarter mile is a distance used in racing to see how fast a car can go from a standstill to the finish line. A time under 10 seconds is considered very fast for a car.
The quarter mile is a standard drag racing distance used to measure a car's acceleration performance. A time in the nines indicates a very high-performance vehicle, capable of impressive speed and power.
"...like on par with some of the high level, you know, like Tesla plaid stuff..."
The Tesla Model S Plaid is a fast electric car that can go from 0 to 60 mph very quickly. It's known for being one of the quickest cars available.
The Tesla Model S Plaid is a high-performance electric sedan known for its incredible acceleration and advanced technology. It features a tri-motor setup that allows it to achieve impressive speed and performance metrics.
"...it looks like the Cayenne turbos are around 160 issues."
The Porsche Cayenne Turbo is a fast and luxurious SUV made by Porsche. It's built for people who want a powerful vehicle that can also be comfortable and stylish.
The Porsche Cayenne Turbo is a high-performance version of the Cayenne SUV, featuring a powerful engine and sporty handling characteristics. It's designed for those who want luxury and performance in an SUV package.
"Zero to 60 time 2.5 seconds. I mean, that's hypercar territory, like for combustion engine stuff."
0-60 time is how long it takes a car to go from a stop to 60 miles per hour. It's a way to measure how fast a car can speed up.
0-60 time refers to the duration it takes for a vehicle to accelerate from a complete stop to 60 miles per hour. It's a common performance metric used to gauge a car's acceleration capabilities.
"So it stole the party trick from the the GTS, the 911 for the front"
The Porsche 911 GTS is a faster and sportier version of the regular 911, designed for those who want more performance and fun while driving.
The Porsche 911 GTS is a high-performance variant of the iconic 911 sports car, known for its powerful engine and enhanced features that improve driving dynamics.
"active arrow louvers in the bumper. So those change as the car seems fit."
Active arrow louvers are parts of a car's bumper that can move to help the car go faster or stay cooler. They adjust automatically based on how the car is being driven.
Active arrow louvers are adjustable vents in a car's bumper that can open or close to optimize aerodynamics and cooling based on driving conditions. They help improve the vehicle's performance by reducing drag when closed and increasing airflow when needed.
"I would imagine if ABS is going to engage or something. It turns into an air brake."
ABS is a system in cars that helps prevent the wheels from stopping completely when you brake hard. This helps you steer better and avoid skidding.
ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System, a safety feature that prevents the wheels from locking up during braking, allowing the driver to maintain steering control. It uses sensors to monitor wheel speed and modulates brake pressure accordingly.
"some McLaren type stuff, some like DRS type things."
DRS is a system used in racing cars that helps them go faster by changing the shape of the rear wing to reduce air resistance. This makes it easier for cars to pass each other on the track.
DRS stands for Drag Reduction System, a feature used in Formula 1 racing that reduces aerodynamic drag on the car by adjusting the rear wing. This allows for increased speed on straights, making overtaking easier.
"But there's these like almost slats that come out of the rear bumper. And those are also active. The purpose of those are to help with range."
Active aerodynamics are parts of a car that can change shape or position while driving to help it perform better. They can make the car more efficient by improving how air flows around it.
Active aerodynamics refers to components of a vehicle that adjust automatically to optimize performance, such as improving fuel efficiency or handling. In this context, the active slats help manage airflow around the car to enhance its range.
"Actually, they found in the wind tunnel that there was causing like a venturi effect behind the car as the air swooped by that back bumper."
The venturi effect happens when air moves faster through a narrow space, which can help create better airflow around a car. This can improve how the car handles and its efficiency.
The venturi effect is a phenomenon where fluid speed increases as it passes through a constricted section of a pipe or channel, resulting in a drop in pressure. In automotive design, this effect can be used to enhance airflow and improve aerodynamics.
"your MPG would anyways. But if you're driving under normal conditions, they're saying basically above 350 is not uncommon."
MPG means how far a car can go on one gallon of gas. The higher the MPG, the better the car is at using fuel efficiently.
MPG stands for 'miles per gallon' and is a measure of fuel efficiency in vehicles. It indicates how many miles a car can travel on one gallon of fuel, which is crucial for understanding a vehicle's operating costs and environmental impact.
"...they were doing over air software updates for you so you didn't have to go into the office..."
Over-the-air software updates let car companies fix or improve your car's software from the internet, so you don't have to go to a shop. It's like updating an app on your phone.
Over-the-air software updates allow car manufacturers to remotely update the vehicle's software without requiring a physical visit to a service center. This technology enhances vehicle performance, adds new features, and fixes bugs.
"...even with the Taycan they were doing over air software updates for you..."
The Porsche Taycan is a luxury electric car from Porsche. It can receive software updates over the internet, which means you don't always have to visit a dealership for improvements or fixes.
The Porsche Taycan is an all-electric luxury sedan that showcases Porsche's commitment to electric mobility. It features high performance and advanced technology, including over-the-air software updates.
"...because you know if you have a significant other a lot of people like SUVs"
An SUV, or Sport Utility Vehicle, is a larger type of car that can carry more people and cargo. They are often used for family trips and can handle rougher roads better than regular cars.
SUV stands for Sport Utility Vehicle, a type of vehicle designed for both passenger comfort and off-road capability, often featuring higher ground clearance and more cargo space than sedans.
"which one of these is more successful Yeah, Cayenne, Turbo GT you'll come out and then"
The Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT is a fast and powerful SUV that feels like a sports car when you drive it. It’s great for people who need space for family or stuff but still want to go really fast.
The Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT is a high-performance version of the Cayenne SUV, known for its powerful engine and sporty handling. It is significant as it blends the practicality of an SUV with the performance characteristics of a sports car, appealing to those who want both speed and utility.
"or like a Rivian or something like that like they're like yeah that's definitely an EV"
Rivian is a new car company that makes electric trucks and SUVs designed for outdoor adventures.
Rivian is an American electric vehicle manufacturer that focuses on electric trucks and SUVs, known for their off-road capabilities and adventure-oriented features.
"like they're like yeah that's definitely an EV you know like that architecture where you can"
EV means electric vehicle, which is a car that runs on electricity rather than gas.
EV stands for electric vehicle, which is a type of vehicle that is powered entirely or partially by electricity instead of traditional fuels like gasoline or diesel.
"if you notice pretty much every EV on the market their front fascia all of them it doesn't matter which one you pick it's pretty flat"
The front fascia is the front section of a car that includes the grille and headlights. It's important for how the car looks and how it moves through the air.
The front fascia refers to the front part of a vehicle, including the grille, bumper, and headlights. It plays a crucial role in the vehicle's aerodynamics and aesthetics.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a supercar made by Porsche that was built in the early 2000s. It's famous for being very fast and having a unique design.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a high-performance sports car produced by Porsche from 2004 to 2007. It is known for its powerful V10 engine and lightweight construction, making it a sought-after collector's item.
"...tic dealer like there were people still that were 918 buyers that were still going there to buy their C..."
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a really cool car that can run on gas and electricity, making it super fast while also being better for the environment. It’s a special sports car that shows how advanced car technology can be.
The Porsche 918 Spyder is a plug-in hybrid supercar that combines a powerful V8 engine with electric motors for exceptional performance and efficiency. It is significant as one of the first hypercars to offer both incredible speed and reduced environmental impact, showcasing Porsche's innovation in automotive technology.
"...o buy their Cayans still going there to buy their Panameras and or whatever um and to take"
The Porsche Panamera is a fancy car that looks like a sports car but has four doors, so you can fit more people inside. It's known for being really fast and comfortable, making it a great choice for people who want a nice ride that can also be used every day.
The Porsche Panamera is a luxury four-door sedan that combines sports car performance with everyday practicality. It is significant for its ability to offer both high-end comfort and impressive driving dynamics, making it a popular choice among those seeking a versatile yet sporty vehicle.
"at the end of the day a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 is a 997 chassis I don't care what anyone say..."
The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a super-fast version of the regular 911 car, built for people who love racing and driving really well. It’s lighter and has a stronger engine, which helps it go faster and handle better on the road or track.
The Porsche 911 GT3 RS is a high-performance variant of the iconic 911 sports car, designed for track enthusiasts and serious drivers. It is celebrated for its lightweight construction, powerful engine, and exceptional handling, making it a standout in the world of performance cars.
"some recent sales because Porsche STs are selling now and have been for a little bit of..."
The Cadillac STS is a fancy car made by Cadillac that is designed to be very comfortable and nice to drive. It’s a good choice for people who want a luxury car without spending too much money.
The Cadillac STS is a luxury sedan that was produced by Cadillac from 2005 to 2011, known for its comfortable ride and upscale features. It is often discussed for its blend of American luxury and performance, appealing to those looking for a refined driving experience.
The 911 R is a special version of the Porsche 911 that is made to be lighter and more fun to drive. It has a powerful engine and a stick shift, which many car lovers prefer.
The Porsche 911 R is a lightweight, high-performance variant of the 911 that emphasizes driving purity and engagement. It features a naturally aspirated engine and a manual transmission, appealing to driving enthusiasts.
The 911 ST is another special version of the Porsche 911 that is made for racing. It's lighter and faster than regular models, which makes it very desirable for collectors.
The Porsche 911 ST is a rare, lightweight version of the 911 designed for racing and performance. It features a more powerful engine and reduced weight compared to standard models, making it a sought-after collector's item.
The red line shows the highest speed the engine can safely go. Going past this point can hurt the engine.
The red line is the maximum engine speed indicated on the tachometer, beyond which the engine may be damaged. It represents the limit of safe operation for the engine's RPM (revolutions per minute).
"range though that has a Metzger platform based engine some people care about that"
The Metzger engine is a special kind of engine made by Porsche that is known for being very powerful and reliable. It's often used in their sports cars and racing cars.
The Metzger engine is a type of flat-six engine developed by Porsche, known for its performance and reliability, particularly in racing applications. It is often associated with high-performance models like the Porsche 911 Turbo.
"so manual transmission on all of these if you're not aware and now this car weighs 2,999 pounds so a few pounds lighter not like crazy"
A manual transmission is a system in cars where you have to change gears yourself using a stick and a pedal. It gives you more control over how the car drives.
A manual transmission is a type of gearbox that requires the driver to manually shift gears using a clutch pedal and gear stick. This allows for greater control over the vehicle's power and speed compared to automatic transmissions.
RPM tells you how fast the engine is spinning. Higher RPMs usually mean more power, but can also mean less fuel efficiency.
RPM stands for revolutions per minute and indicates how many times the engine's crankshaft makes a full rotation every minute. It's a key metric for understanding engine performance and efficiency.
"...the 911R and the ST or DFI engine that cars direct fuel injection engines..."
DFI means Direct Fuel Injection, which is a way of getting fuel into the engine. It helps the engine run better and use fuel more efficiently.
DFI stands for Direct Fuel Injection, a technology that delivers fuel directly into the combustion chamber, improving efficiency and performance compared to traditional fuel injection methods.
"...I think they're pretty badass curb weight on them 2,999 pounds..."
Curb weight is how much a car weighs when it's ready to drive, with gas and oil but without any people or stuff inside. It's useful for comparing how heavy different cars are.
Curb weight refers to the total weight of a vehicle when it's not loaded with passengers or cargo but includes all fluids, such as fuel and oil. It's an important measurement for understanding a car's performance and fuel efficiency.
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