This is a special version of the Ford Bronco. Ford teamed up with Filson (a clothing brand) to make it feel more outdoorsy and rugged, not just a standard Bronco.
The Ford Explorer is a midsize SUV meant for carrying people and gear comfortably. An “Eddie Bauer” edition is a specific version of the Explorer with extra features. The episode brings it up to explain how different trims can feel different.
Eddie Bauer is a clothing brand. The hosts are talking about how car makers have used Eddie Bauer as a special edition theme, and how that partnership has changed over time.
Carhartt is a brand known for durable work clothes. The hosts are using it as an example of how Ford makes truck editions that tie into popular clothing brands.
Pleated leather just means leather that’s stitched or shaped with small folds. It makes the seats and panels look more detailed and upscale than plain smooth leather.
Bolstering is the padded, shaped part of a seat that helps hold you in place. It’s usually the side areas that feel thicker so you don’t slide around as much.
They’re saying that little cover is held in place with a magnet. So it stays shut neatly without needing a complicated latch.
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glazed glass
They’re talking about improved window glass. Better glass can help keep road and wind noise from getting into the cabin.
Term
sound detaining
“Sound detaining” is being used to describe sound-deadening—materials and design choices that reduce how much noise reaches the cabin. In this context, it’s tied to the Bronco’s quieter ride via insulation and glass changes.
Fox makes performance suspension parts. If the Bronco has Fox shocks, it usually means the ride is tuned with higher-end shock absorbers to smooth out bumps.
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. The episode talks about a more expensive version and points out that it didn’t have certain comfort features like ventilated seats. It’s mentioned to show that higher price doesn’t always mean every feature you expect.
Concept
defender here, you know, the luxury kind of premium thing
They’re saying Ford is trying to make the Bronco feel more like a luxury version of an off-road SUV—more like what people expect from a Defender.
The Range Rover is a luxury SUV made for comfort, with the ability to handle rough terrain too. People talk about it a lot because it’s one of the best-known high-end four-wheel-drive SUVs. It’s usually chosen for a mix of comfort and capability.
The Land Rover Defender is a classic, body-on-frame-style off-road SUV known for its traditional, durable engineering and strong aftermarket support. Here, it’s used as a benchmark for how luxury “outfitter” conversions can make a Defender feel more premium—especially when dressed up with leather.
The Mercedes-Benz G-Class is a luxury SUV that’s also capable off-road. The hosts are saying the Bronco could be upgraded to feel more like that—more comfortable and premium—rather than just rugged.
The Lexus GX is a luxury SUV that’s also meant to handle rough roads. The hosts mention it as an example of a “luxury 4x4” that already exists in the market.
This is about companies that buy older rugged 4x4s and then modify them to feel more like a luxury vehicle. The hosts say people pay a lot for things like leather interiors and a more comfortable ride, and Ford could do that kind of work better.
A solid axle is a suspension setup where both wheels on an axle are connected by one sturdy bar. It can be great for off-road durability, but the hosts are saying some older converted Defenders still don’t feel very refined.
A V8 is a type of engine with eight cylinders. More cylinders usually means more pulling power, which can help on hills and trails, but it can cost more to build and may use more fuel.
The “Raptor engine” means the kind of powerful engine Ford uses in the Raptor off-road trucks. The host is saying this Bronco would get that same kind of punch, not a more basic V8.
“Coyote” is Ford’s nickname for a specific V8 engine family. People were hoping that engine would show up in the Bronco, because it’s known for being strong and responsive.
“Wide-bodied” means the car has been made wider with flared fenders. The host is saying that being wider can be a problem on real trails, even if the engine is more powerful.
Concept
trails purely for the practicality and functionality of a an off-road vehicle and of a four by four
They’re talking about how off-road cars should be judged by whether they work on actual trails. Even if a vehicle is powerful, it still has to fit and be practical where people drive.
The Bronco Raptor is the most hardcore off-road version of the Bronco. Here they’re saying it can be too wide for some trails, even though it’s built to be capable off-road.
“Sasquatch” is an off-road package for the Bronco. It typically includes bigger tires and a wider setup, which is great for rough terrain but can make the vehicle harder to fit on narrow trails.
A “first edition” usually means an early, limited special version of a car. It often comes with a unique look or extra features—here, they’re saying the copper color is tied to that edition.
Lockers are traction helpers that keep the wheels from spinning uselessly when they’re on slippery ground. Front and rear lockers mean the truck can get grip in more situations.
Term
Philsen
Philsen sounds like a brand that’s involved with this special Bronco edition. The host is basically saying not many people seem to know it.
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck, meaning it has a bed for hauling things. It’s built to be useful and capable, including on rough roads. The episode mentions it in the context of how different versions of trucks and SUVs can be compared.
Horsepower is a way to describe how strong a car’s engine is. More horsepower often helps the car go faster, but it’s not the only thing that affects acceleration.
The Audi R8 is a famous Audi supercar with the engine mounted near the middle of the car. People compare other Audi supercars to it because it’s one of the brand’s most recognizable performance models.
A hybrid system means the car uses both a gas engine and electric motors. The electric part can help with acceleration and power delivery, while the gas engine handles the rest.
RPM is how fast the engine spins. “10,000 RPM” is very high, and it usually means the car is designed to feel more like a race engine, especially when combined with electric assist in a hybrid setup.
Boost mode is a “extra power” setting that makes the car feel faster for a short time. It can be limited by things like battery temperature or how much charge is left.
This is a high-performance electric Audi. The host is saying it’s not only fast in a straight line—it also feels fun to drive because it grips well and steers quickly.
Low center of gravity means the car’s mass is concentrated closer to the ground. That typically reduces body roll and helps the car feel more stable and responsive when you turn or change direction.
Term
265 width P0s
That “265” is the tire width, measured in millimeters. Wider tires usually grip the road better, which helps the car feel planted when you drive hard.
Sway bars (also called anti-roll bars) are components that reduce body roll by linking the left and right suspension. The host suggests the new suspension system can “take a place” of sway bars, implying it can control roll behavior electronically/actively instead of relying solely on a mechanical bar.
These are high-end brake rotors made from a special ceramic material. They’re designed to keep braking strong even when you drive hard, but they cost a lot more than normal brakes.
The Porsche Taycan is an electric car made by Porsche. The episode mentions the “second gen” Taycan, meaning a newer version of the same model line. That matters because newer generations can bring changes to how the car drives and what tech it has.
“Brutalist” is a style word that usually means a design looks tough, plain, and very geometric. In this case, they’re saying the car looks more industrial than traditionally beautiful.
The Ferrari Luce is mentioned in the episode as part of a comparison. It sounds like the speakers are talking about which car is “better” or “more like” something else. The episode doesn’t provide enough detail here to treat it as the main topic.
AMG is Mercedes-Benz’s performance brand. The host is using it as a comparison point for looks, saying the car they’re talking about looks better than that newer AMG Mercedes four-door.
The Audi TT is a small Audi sports car with a very recognizable look. Saying the design has “a little Audi TT in it” means it borrows some of that familiar Audi styling shape and vibe.
Formula 1 is the highest level of professional race car driving. The hosts are saying Audi’s racing involvement can make its regular cars feel more exciting.
An LED light signature is the unique “shape” of a car’s lights—like the pattern you see in the headlights or taillights. The hosts say Audi was early in using these recognizable LED patterns.
The Audi A5 is a compact luxury coupe/fastback line, and “first-gen” here refers to the original generation of that model family. The hosts group it with other early Audi performance/design hits to describe a period when the brand felt more youthful.
The Audi S5 is the sport version of the A5. “First-gen S5” means the earliest generation, and the hosts use it as part of a lineup that felt more exciting in the 2000s.
The Tesla Cybertruck is an electric pickup truck. It’s known for its unusual, sharp-edged look. In the episode, it’s used as a reference for how another car’s design resembles it.
The Land Rover Discovery is a big SUV that’s built to handle rough roads and still work for everyday life. Here, the hosts are talking about their Discoveries and how they try not to drive them much.
An “LS swap” is when someone replaces the original engine with a GM LS V8 engine. People do it because the LS engines are popular, have lots of parts available, and can make the car feel much stronger.
The transmission is the gearbox that helps the engine send power to the wheels. In an engine swap, it has to work correctly with the new engine so the car can drive properly.
A transfer case is part of a 4-wheel-drive system that sends power to both the front and rear wheels. If you change the engine or transmission, you may need to adjust or work on the transfer case so everything still works together.
“LS” is a type of GM V8 engine that a lot of people use for engine swaps. It’s popular because it’s relatively easy to work with and there are lots of parts and guides for it.
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a large SUV made to carry lots of people and handle bigger tasks like towing. The episode brings it up as a simple, practical option if you want a big SUV. It’s mentioned to highlight what the “point” of a different vehicle might be.
A Land Rover Discovery One is an older Land Rover SUV that people often keep for years and work on themselves. “Head gaskets” are an important engine part, and when they fail it usually means the engine needs repair.
The head gasket is a seal inside the engine that keeps fluids and combustion gases in the right places. If it breaks, the engine can start mixing coolant/oil or overheat, and it usually requires a serious repair.
The cooling system is what keeps the engine from getting too hot. If you swap in a different engine, you may need to adjust the cooling setup so it runs at the proper temperature.
Car
flat fender Jeep
A flat fender Jeep is an older Jeep style with distinctive, boxy fenders. They’re describing rebuilding it with the main drivetrain parts so it can actually drive and go off-road.
Car
Willy C.J. 2A
The Willys CJ-2A is an old Jeep model that’s famous for being tough and simple. Here, they’re talking about buying one and using it off-road as a hands-on project.
The Jeep Wrangler is an off-road SUV that’s built for rough terrain. The episode talks about a design detail related to the vehicle’s electrical system and fuses. That kind of detail matters because it can affect how dependable the car is.
Soldering is when you melt solder to permanently join two wires together. It can make the connection more solid, as long as it’s done correctly and covered so it won’t short.
A carburetor rebuild kit is a set of replacement rubber parts and small pieces you install to bring an old carburetor back to good working order. It helps stop leaks and restores the carburetor’s ability to mix fuel and air correctly.
Carter is a company that made carburetors for older cars. Here, the host is working on a Carter carburetor and worrying that the replacement parts may not seal as well after being stored for decades.
New old stock means the part is “new” but it was made years or decades ago and just sat in storage. It can still be good, but rubber seals inside can age, so it might not work as perfectly as you’d expect.
This is about gasket sealing performance—how well the gasket compresses and forms a tight barrier to prevent fuel/air leaks. Old gaskets and seals can harden or lose elasticity after decades in storage, which can lead to seepage even if the parts are “new old stock.”
The oil filter cleans the oil that lubricates the engine. They’re running into a tight-space issue where the oil filter is in the way of another part, so it has to come off repeatedly.
The alternator charges the battery and powers the car’s electrical stuff while the engine is running. In this case, it’s just the part that’s getting in the way.
A Chevy C10 is a classic Chevrolet pickup truck. Here they’re discussing doing electrical work—specifically installing the wiring harness—on one of these older trucks.
The Fiat 500e is the electric version of the Fiat 500. It doesn’t use a gas engine, so it has lots of electrical wiring, and the dash area can be where technicians need to reach connectors and cables.
In an electric car, high voltage cables carry the big electrical power that runs the drivetrain. They’re not like the small wires in a normal car, and they need extra care because they can be dangerous.
Wire nuts are twist-on electrical connectors commonly used in household wiring to join conductors. The host is comparing them to what they saw under the dash, implying the repair or splicing method may be improvised or not ideal for automotive standards.
The Toyota RAV4 is a compact SUV that many people use for everyday driving. The episode mentions a particular smell that RAV4 owners might recognize. That implies there’s a common, noticeable thing people associate with it.
The powertrain is basically the car’s “power system.” It’s everything that helps the engine’s power get to the wheels. If oil leaks onto it, it can get very hot and smell like hot oil.
Coolant temp is how hot the car’s cooling liquid is running. If it stays normal, it usually means the engine isn’t overheating and the cooling system is working.
That phrase means the leak is really bad—like it’s pouring out. With a transmission, low fluid can cause overheating and damage.
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Hey everybody, welcome to another podcast.
In today's episode, we're talking about an all-new Ford Bronco.
That's, well, just a new wish.
Well, it hasn't existed before.
Parts of it have.
There's a new Ford Bronco, we've got a new Audi supercar, we're going to talk about
some projects in the garage, I've got an update on my Jeep project, in case we'll talk about
his Land Rover, and I got some new shoes.
Yes.
He's not wearing them.
I'm not wearing them, no.
For demonstration purposes, I don't give feet picks away for free, so I had to put on different
shoes to show these.
So demonstration and comfort purposes, because you got some old-school red-wing boots, which
is neat, but they do take a little while to wear in.
They are very uncomfortable.
So they sit four to eight weeks.
That's a long time.
That's a little two months' case before my feet stop hurting.
I don't think so.
Oh, man.
So I was just in Washington for the launch of a new edition of the Ford Bronco called
the Ford Bronco Filson.
Now this is a collaboration between Ford and an apparel company called Filson, which I'd
never heard of.
Have you heard of this brand?
No, I haven't actually heard of them, but this makes a lot of sense, because if you think,
for example, Ford Explorer, Eddie Bauer edition, right, it's something that they've done in
the past.
Eddie Bauer is actually gone now.
Yeah, my dad is, so my dad, Roman, shops exclusively at Eddie Bauer or did.
And now he's like, what do I do?
Where do I get my shirts?
He's devastated.
So Filson is along, like you were saying, in a long lineage of brand collaborations.
Do you remember the Orvis edition jeeps?
Yeah.
And even nowadays, Ford on the Super Duty trucks is doing their Carhartt version of it.
Carhartt thing.
Yeah, exactly right.
So this is pretty interesting.
Now Filson is a brand that dates back to 1897.
They're based in Seattle, Washington, and they got their start during the gold rush.
So basically people would go through the port of Seattle on their way to Alaska to go hunt
for gold.
And Mr. I think his name was Clint Filson would be there to sell them apparel, right?
And then in the 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s, they provided all of the work wear for the
logging industry in Washington.
And now they provide all of the clothes for park rangers.
Yeah, and it's kind of a cool collaboration because Filson makes really high quality,
nice clothes and their premium.
They're not cheap to buy, but they're also rugged.
So it's not like a tuxedo or something.
They use materials that you can weather and even if you damage some of your clothes, this
is not sponsored by the way.
No, no, it is not.
But if you damage some of your clothes, they'll stitch them up for you.
So it kind of fits with the idea of a Bronco because same thing.
The Bronco is a nice item, a nice piece of equipment, but it's rugged.
So I can see why they would do the collab.
It was interesting going there and talking to the Filson guys because it was like listening
to a press release about case.
It's all like very rugged and long lasting and like one of their tag lines is built to
wear in, not wear out, right?
This is the whole stuff you like.
There's like men fly fishing in good beards.
You know a good beard.
Yo, you know me.
I'm a big beard guy.
Have if I let this go for more than half an hour.
It's like Labrador retrievers flannel back to beards.
Like it's just a lot of that.
You know me clean shaven and three cats.
Two of them are my wife's calm down.
But the point is like it's supposed to be very kind of, they called it, this is a bit
of a stretch, but it was an interesting tagline.
It's not, it's not built for a lifetime.
It's generational.
Like you pass these things on to your, yeah, a bit of a bold claim.
And like they, the one thing I'm going to knock them for is like they do build some of their
stuff in the US, which is great, but then we went to actually buy some of their stuff
in the store.
I'm like, oh great.
It's all going to be US made.
And then my jacket is made in Sri Lanka.
So like, yeah, there are, there are certainly more modern aspects of it in, in Philsen.
But for the vehicle itself, from the exterior, you can tell that it's got a lot of paint
matched features, really nice looking tire cover on the rear.
But what about the interior?
Well, yeah.
So basically, as you kind of alluded to, this is kind of like the, the looks, the luxury
Bronco, right?
So it's, it's got this pleated leather on the inside with this green kind of, it almost
looks like tin cloth style bolstering.
And it's interesting.
And almost on the door cards, instead of an open pocket, it looks like a, like a leather
one with a little cover.
100%.
Yeah.
So there's this little like leather stitched thing with a magnet.
So it's very premium.
It, remember like the Laramese and the King ranches and the back seats, they've done that
too.
So, you know, it is nice and they've also done some, some actual changes beyond just
trim.
So it's 20% quieter than when the Bronco launched six years ago.
It has like new glazed glass, which is supposed to help with sound detaining.
It's the most quiet Bronco ever, Fox shock.
So it's, it's going to be really soft and squishy.
And then first Bronco ever, did you know this?
You couldn't get a Bronco with ventilated seats.
I don't think I realized that.
Yeah.
I don't think I noticed either.
Even like a $90,000 Raptor didn't have ventilated seats.
Bad journalists.
Uh, how is the top still?
It's the same, but it's color matched, um, as far as wind noise.
Oh, um, they, I think they've added more insulation.
If I remember right.
Yeah.
So the whole thing is just supposed to be more isolated from the world and like it's
very clear they're trying to go after like defender here, you know, the luxury kind of
premium thing.
Yeah.
Which, which is going to be a little bit of an uphill battle, obviously that's a very
successful portion of the market because you look at a lot of luxury four by fours.
Um, yeah, defender, Range Rover, G wagon, Lexus GX, there's, there's a lot of nice four
by fours out there on the market.
There have even been some rumors potentially of a all out luxury version of the Bronco
in possibly Lincoln form.
Lincoln form.
Yeah.
And I kind of feel like the Philsen is like a little teaser on what's capable, but I got
to say actually, I think that this platform.
It does have the potential of being a, maybe a little bit more G wagon like, right?
If you start really, like this is kind of a baby step, but if you start lining everything
in leather and, and really jack up some of the insulation stuff that you can do, there,
there is potential to do something pretty cool with this, I think.
Yeah.
I think you could do a lot with it, especially if you look at the world of luxury outfitters
for especially many vintage four by fours.
And people will pay a lot of money for a defender or a vintage G wagon that's covered in leather
and made to be more luxurious.
And Ford could absolutely do a better job of engineering their Bronco into something
like that than any small outfit or cam because we've driven some pretty luxurious old school
solid axle defenders that were not spectacular.
That's right.
Yeah.
And I think the OEMs got the capability of doing that.
Now, the big mechanical change is, so I'm going to, I'm going to prod them a little
bit on this.
Like they had this live, live recorded presentation in front of us was like, you know, actors
and they're like, you know, we've listened to our customers and we gave the customers
what a lot of people have been asking for.
I'm like, Oh, great.
An affordable Bronco.
Yeah.
That's true.
But a V8 powered Bronco, they're like, you know, everybody's been asking for this in
the engine department.
I'm like, Oh hell yeah, they put the Coyote in it, but no, they put the Raptor engine
in it, which I don't think I've ever seen the comment like, I wish my 27 Bronco
had a three O because they're just not that different.
You know?
Yeah.
I wouldn't be mad about the extra power in a vehicle that's not wide bodied because
looks aside, which are controversial in themselves, there's a lot of trails purely for the practicality
and functionality of a an off-road vehicle and of a four by four.
The Broncos already pretty wide in Sasquatch form and a lot of our trails here in Colorado
will just absolutely not fit a Bronco Raptor.
So I can see the appeal of sticking a more powerful engine in a standard track with Bronco,
but V8 would be would be kind of next level.
No, I mean, and that would be like a big cost for them to do.
But I do think that a long term, the price you could get back by putting that in is
Jeep did it.
Yeah.
Well, they should do it with the 572
So like the Philson Bronco, I think it's an interesting, it's an interesting trim line.
What do you think it's going to cost?
I'm going to say 70.
Yeah.
That's what I said in the video, but some like a guy commented that his fully loaded
badlands was pretty much 70.
So I think it might even be 75.
So I think that the market here is a little specific.
They have a really good color.
If you go to TFLcar.com, I think we might have a ride up on it.
They have a cool copper color, which is going to be part of a first edition they're doing.
What does a GX cost starting?
It's just 65.
65?
Mm hmm.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So realistically, there's the green.
There's a copper one, Cole, if you scroll down a little bit.
There's a copper one.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
It's a very cool color.
It's going to be in the first edition.
It's called Iron Sands Copper, and then it's got power running boards.
So like, you know, I'm glad that they kept it Sasquatch and I'm glad that they kept
it on 17-inch wheels.
So it's still going to be off road.
No big donk wheels.
Yeah.
There's no 22s on it.
And it's cool that it still has front and rear lockers.
So this will go anywhere that a, in theory, a normal Sasquatch Bronco will go, minus maybe
you have to be a little careful with those running boards, but they're tucked up nice
and high.
But yeah, I think 75 is going to be the number on this.
Just a lot of money.
That is a lot.
It's a lot of money.
So, you know, I'll be curious in the chat if people think that this is going to be worth
it, if people are going to go for it.
One of the things that I'm a little bit confused about is, so I had never heard, not that I
know everything.
Obviously, I'm such a style magnet here, but I'd never heard of Philsen.
And based on some of the comments, a lot of other people hadn't heard of Philsen either.
So like, do you think that they should have maybe partnered with a bigger brand that was
better known?
Kind of like Carhartt?
Possibly, but the demographic of Carhartt is different than Philsen.
So for what they're trying to build with this, Philsen seems to make sense off the top of
my head.
I would have a hard time picking out a thin air, another brand that would make more sense
than that.
So, you know, I think it's a fine collaboration, and the vehicle itself looks pretty decent
through just seeing it on camera.
So, who knows?
It could be pretty good.
It's tough though, because this is a competitive space.
Really competitive.
There's a brand, I was with some really fashionable influencers, and there was a brand called,
it's not Paddington.
No, it's not Patagonia.
Pendleton?
Yeah.
Have you heard of Pendleton?
Yeah.
Okay, well, of course.
Cole.
Can you pull up Pendleton?
So that is something that some of my friends actually had heard of, which is, is it kind
of a similar vibe, Cole?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Outdoorsy.
Outdoorsy, Oregon stuff.
Sounds nice.
I don't, I know these guys either.
This might be a little bit too fashionable though.
Yeah, it could be.
They have throws.
Oh, I've heard these blankets are legendary.
Yeah, the Pendleton blankets.
I do know this company, actually.
Thank you, Cole, for the clarification.
So yeah, I think that, like, you know, it's kind of sad, Eddie Bowers is on the layout,
but apparently Phil's is the new one.
And my prediction is this was a massive event.
Like there were maybe 15 of us media, but there were like a hundred Bronco ambassadors
and influencers and people not necessarily specifically in the car space.
So my bet is they put all this money in this to launch this collaboration and this is kind
of like the flagship product, but I would bet you anything there's going to be a Ranger
Philson and an F-150 Explorer Philson.
That could be interesting.
Same thing with Carhart.
Could be the new Eddie Bauer for them.
I bet there's no way they keep Carhart just on the 250s.
I bet that'll make its way to the 150 as well.
And it does matter a lot for optics how you launch a thing initially.
Definitely.
You get to pick the right product for that.
But then from there, that can kind of set the tone and you can build off of that.
Right.
So properly expensive launch that they did here was super overkill.
I thought because like there's a lot of trim lines that get revealed and very rarely are
you flying to San Cady, Washington to go stay in a nice hotel and look, you know, fly fishing.
Yeah.
In case you would have loved it.
They had everything you loved there.
They had knives.
They had fishes.
They had tents.
These are your people.
They had a barbecue, a baked potato station.
Sweet potatoes?
No, God, baked potatoes.
If they had a sweet potato station, I would have left.
Tommy hates sweet potatoes, which is pretty wack.
Because it's not even a potato.
Shoot us an email about that.
It's like calling a Skittle like broccoli.
It's obviously not the same thing.
So why call it the same thing?
That's a stretch, Thomas.
And you know it.
Yeah.
Speaking of bougie clothing, this is the clothing episode.
The case convinced me to buy a nice pair of shoes.
Oh, we're looking at the boots again.
I know.
Part two.
So not sponsored in any way.
But these are red-winged boots, which I had never heard of either until I met Case.
But you had your old ones for what?
Seven years.
Seven years?
Yeah, I still have them.
I can still wear them.
I just didn't take very good care of them, which is mostly on me.
But seven years out of a pair of shoes and being pretty abusive with them.
Yeah, I'm not mad about it.
And I replace shoes like every four months because I go to the Nordstrom Rack and I buy
some crappy thing and then it breaks.
So Case convinced me to go spend $400 on a pair of boots.
And I do love the way they look.
They are still pretty uncomfortable.
Yeah, it takes some time.
Yeah.
It's like an investment.
You know, you just got to commit.
And then it'll appreciate in value, huh?
Well, it'll appreciate in your functionality and utility of it.
Your emotional value and invested in it.
And just comfort.
They'll take it.
I'll hold that.
Yeah, yeah.
I was reading on my trip that the, I think these are called the heritage something.
They're a part of heritage line because they're called the iron rangers, which you were right,
comes from iron mining, which is pretty cool.
But they are made in the U.S., which is pretty snazzy.
That is pretty snazzy.
That is a good word for it.
Pretty snazzy, if you ask me.
So that's the update on Tommy's wardrobe.
Do you have any updates on your wardrobe?
Um, no, I'm still wearing the same t-shirts I've been wearing for the last, like, eight
or nine years.
Ah.
So look at me go.
No further updates.
Real open-minded.
So next piece of news I want to talk about.
This is kind of interesting.
Pull up tflcar.com.
So Audi has a new supercar and it looks pretty cool.
It's 987 horsepower.
Which is enough.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's, is it enough?
You just drove an unhorspower car and you said you didn't like it.
I just drove a 900 horsepower Audi.
Yeah, and you said it was too much.
Yeah.
Well, too much, yeah.
So too much in enough are like, you know what I mean?
No, I don't know what you mean.
Hold on, hold on.
If you're listening, Casey's just doing karate moves over here.
He's like, it's, you know what I mean?
Well, when I say 987 horsepower is enough, that's true.
Saying it's too much can also be true simultaneously.
They're not mutually exclusive.
If I said it wasn't enough and said it was also too much,
that wouldn't make sense.
So do you think that, okay, do you think this thing looks better
than an Audi R8?
No, not the Concept C.
So right now, I don't, to my understanding,
they're saying that this new supercar,
called the new Velary, duh, rolls off the tongue.
No, this guy.
They're saying that this new supercar, replacing basically
following up the Audi R8, is going to look a lot like the Concept C.
Is this the Concept C?
That's the Concept C, but that is not, to my understanding,
the finished product of this car.
Interesting.
Oh, it looks very Lamborghini in the back.
Well, there's a reason.
What's the reason?
So it's a V8.
Okay.
They're saying around 10,000 RPM with a hybrid system,
two electric motors in the front,
and one paired up with the gas powertrain.
And if all of that sounds familiar,
it's because that's how the Temerario is set up.
I actually think this is the car,
because the Concept C looked a little different.
Oh, yeah.
So they just revealed this somewhere in Europe,
and they just pulled it out today.
So I have a feeling that this actually makes this.
Wow.
That's the real deal.
It's very Concept C.
It is very Concept C.
So they are only planning to manufacture, I believe, 499 of them.
Okay.
So it would be pretty affordable.
It should be affordable.
Okay, good.
Also, reasonable amount of acceleration and top speed,
I think 217 miles an hour, and 0-60 in something like 2.6 seconds.
Although the Audi I drove today does 0-60 in a claim 2.1,
which is too much.
In case you drove that thing and it comes back,
it's like it was uncomfortable.
It is a little bit, yeah.
It's too much, huh?
Well, yeah.
I tried not, I didn't do the boost mode,
which I probably should have because we're filming,
but I don't think this is actually a hot take.
So accelerating hard in an EV is an experience,
I think for all car people the first time,
you're in a genuinely fast EV and you launch it.
That's a wow experience.
But for the most part, I would argue if you've accelerated fast
in one fast EV, then you've kind of done it in them all.
So my level of interest in putting the pedal to the metal
in that Audi RS e-tron GT performance
that we have here at the office,
my interest in that's pretty limited.
Pretty minimal.
I've had a very similar experience in a lot of other EVs
as far as accelerating.
I actually think that that RS e-tron GT performance
is a reasonably fun handling car.
Oh, yeah.
Very low center of gravity, quick steering,
265 width P0s in the front, 305s in the rear.
So it's got a lot of grip.
Not every EV is necessarily a fun handling car.
So I'm not saying that that Audi isn't a fun car to drive,
it's just the straight line acceleration thing in an EV.
Nauseating.
Can be a little nauseating.
The crazy thing about that car is the suspension
is apparently pretty wild.
Yeah, so it does some crazy things.
When you unlock the car and open the door,
it jumps up to a higher ride height
to make ingress and egress a little easier.
And when I say jump up.
Like my Land Rover, what kind of wheezes up?
It's like, the Audi genuinely comes up.
It's not going to uppercut you or anything on its way up,
but it comes up a little alarming
because it pops up pretty fast.
It's like case here and there's going
to be a beard convention.
It just pops right up.
A beard convention, yeah.
You know me.
Me and beards.
No, I just demonstrated it to be really quick.
And it is pretty incredible.
And I think that's because that's
that new high voltage suspension system that
it can perfectly compensate for ground level
and imperfections.
It's supposed to be really interesting.
Yeah.
And to my understanding, I think it kind of takes
a place of sway bars.
Yes, it does.
So it's an interesting system.
That plus the package that gets it massive carbon ceramic
brakes is $11,000.
Do you know how much that Audi is?
130.
Not even close.
$192,000.
Holy hell.
So that's probably based on the new second gen
Taycan then, right?
Yes.
I'm going with the yes.
Yeah, I haven't done my research on it.
I just walked into the office and saw it for the first time.
But I'm pretty sure it's a new second gen Taycan
so it gets a crazy suspension improvements in efficiency
and that kind of thing.
But that's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money.
Would you get that over Taycan?
No, I still like the Taycan.
You like the Taycan much?
Although performance wise, that's
going to be more horsepower for the money.
Sure.
Yeah.
But you could get the turbo GT in the Taycan, which
is over 1,000.
Which is even crazier, yeah.
So back to the supercar, the new Vellari.
Why did they name it that?
It's a racing driver from the 30s.
Is it?
Yeah.
Really?
One of their racing drivers back in the day.
Interesting.
Yes.
Do you like the look of it?
No.
Really?
It's very kind of industrial in its design.
So a lot of vertical lines and a lot of right angles.
I would describe it as being brutalist.
It is striking.
I don't think I would call it classically beautiful.
Can you go through some of the pictures, Cole?
So I don't know.
Maybe they'll make some tweaks to it
by the time it hits production.
Maybe not.
And it would also be interesting to see it in person.
Not that anybody sends us cars like these.
Would be cool to see.
The interior is pretty cool.
I like that the interior matches the exterior
and being understated and really kind of stripped down
and almost, I think brutalist is kind of the right word.
Brutalist is the right word, yeah.
It looks like it's kind of set in concrete, right?
Yeah.
I kind of do like it just because it's something
I haven't seen before, right?
And it's a departure from the current Audi design language.
I don't hate it.
I think it's a little heavy-handed, but.
Yeah, it's a little chunky.
It's certainly not horrible.
No, I think it's better than like that.
Well, it's better than the Luce.
And even I think it's better than that new AMG Mercedes
four-door thing, for sure.
This is a much more attractive car.
It's got a little bit of Audi TT in it, too,
and kind of the Bauhaus-ness of its Chris Pankles.
And in the front end as well.
I think that this makes a lot of sense for Audi
to do, obviously, their involvement in Formula
1, infusing some performance and some excitement
back into their lineup.
Not that Audi doesn't make fast cars.
And we were just talking about that e-tron.
And that's obviously a very fast car.
But there's a lot of Audi's lineup
that feels a little serious and just kind of button down
and not very moving.
There's a lot of soul there.
So when Kase and I were a kid, well, I was.
Well, we were two kids.
We weren't one kid collectively.
That would be a crazy situation.
But in the early to mid-2000s, like 070809,
Audi's got super cool.
Because of Ironman.
Partly because of Ironman.
And they had the first cars I remember seeing with the actual
LED light signatures, which was super cool.
So that whole generation, first-gen R8, first-gen A5 and S5.
Q7.
Q7 was cool, right?
Really cool.
The last couple of years, they've gotten pretty boring.
They just lost that innovation and that magic
that they had in that period.
And they've just become a screen tech monstrosity
with this weird, can't decide if it wants to be bubble design
or angle design.
It's this weird middle ground.
So I'm glad that this, what's it called?
New Velari.
New Velari is a return back to, OK, we're
making a statement again.
I'm assuming I'm saying that correctly.
That's how it's spelled.
Yeah, I think that sounds right.
I could be confidently saying it wrong this whole time.
Would you rather have it been called the R9?
R9?
No.
That's a motorcycle.
Yeah, but nobody knows that.
Well, I do.
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Chris says the Audi looks like a Cybertruck
had a baby with a roadster.
It's not that bad, Chris.
Yeah, it's not that bad.
It is a little angular and gray, but.
Yeah, it's not that crazy.
No.
For sure.
The this Audi has the proportions done right,
which goes a long way.
And the Cybertruck arguably doesn't have
the best proportions.
Yeah, for sure.
So the next topic I want to discuss
is what's in the garage.
So Casey and I have a bunch of projects happening right now.
We've got some news potentially on that
you might find interesting if you are a regular viewer
of the channel.
So Casey and I both own Land Rover Discoveries
that we both haven't driven in about a year.
Yeah, pretty much.
And believe it or not,
it's not because we're preserving the best examples.
Yeah, I know generally we love to keep the miles
off of our extremely valuable discoveries.
Right, we like to pull them out
only on the most special occasions.
That's why you generally,
you see Land Rovers on tow trucks a lot
and people are trying to keep the miles low.
People don't want to put miles on them.
That is a keen observation, my friend.
You are exactly right.
So Casey's LS swapping his Land Rover,
it's going brilliantly and it's almost done.
Well, the LS has swapped and it's great.
Even at this point, the transmission is great.
So naturally now the transfer case is.
So it's just one thing at a time.
It's fun.
It's everything that could possibly go not the way
you would hope for it to go has gone not well way.
Did you make your Land Rover less reliable?
Yes, yes I did.
With the goal of someday having one that is
maybe as reliable or slightly more
or just easier to work on or just some more power.
Or I just learned things about through the whole,
really the main goal.
If you think about it, not that I have,
I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it at all.
The main goal was to have a project, right?
Cause I've seen a, I saw one time somebody ask
if you wanted a four wheel drive SUV with an LS,
why didn't you just buy a Tahoe?
Which kind of misses the point.
The point was not to be practical.
Face doesn't want to drive this car.
Yeah, exactly.
No, I want a project and it's been a hell of a project.
I've learned a bunch of stuff,
also figured out some stuff that I'm not very good at
like all the software programming.
Yeah, that's the next level.
But I bring it up because our friend Joe,
who runs a YouTube channel called Lost Cause Ranch,
he was the one that did my head gaskets on my Discovery One.
Looks like he might come next week potentially,
drop off my Discovery One,
pick up your Discovery Two
and do all the little niggly bits
that you don't want to deal with.
And that would be awesome.
Yeah, because as anybody that's worked on any project knows,
the zero to 90% is pretty easy.
That last 10% can be a real pain.
And Joe, unlike myself, is actually really talented.
And he's spent a lot of time,
I think for a while he was professionally
LS swapping, disco twos.
So in terms of refining the cooling system
and plenty of other things in the swap,
he actually knows what to do.
So I'm kind of tired of beating my head against this wall.
And I'm gonna have him mess around with it a little bit.
So I appreciate him very much.
Coming out, he's gonna pick up your Land Rover.
No, I think that's a really cool idea.
And I'm stoked about it.
So, and then I will hopefully get my Discovery One back
because he, unlike case,
I don't have the ability to turn wrenches.
So he did my head gaskets
and a couple other little things on that disco one.
And now I'll have a really cool running and driving
green Land Rover Discovery.
That thing will last at least hours
before something breaks on it.
Yeah.
And on the other side of things,
we stuck an engine and a transmission transfer case
in your flat fender Jeep.
That's right.
I probably have some pictures.
I can airdrop you here, Cole.
So here's the scoop.
So like about 150 years ago,
I bought this green Willy C.J. 2A and...
That was like 10 months ago.
That wasn't even that long ago.
September, yeah, of last year.
And then in case I took it off-road.
And then in case it's a brilliant idea,
well, I don't even tear it apart.
So I did.
And it's actually been a really fun learning process.
But basically I started with the screen Jeep
and then I pulled its top off.
And then I was working on the frame
and getting that all good.
And then case was helping with the engine a little bit.
And then I was got a new tub for it,
which is like the body.
And then the new tub turned out to be
not much better than the old tub.
So then I found another C.J. 2A.
Keep in mind, the first one that was blown into them
in pieces, that's a little white one.
And that one had a bad engine,
but it had a good body and tub.
So then what I'm doing is taking the engine
out of the old one, having the transmission rebuilt,
putting the whole shebang in the new one.
And case was over a few weekends ago.
He helped me put the engine in with the transmission.
And now I have been in wiring hell,
but that has finally come to an end.
Exactly.
So it's almost back together, which is cool.
That Jeep is actually fun to work on
because it's very, very simple in general,
which makes it just more fun
and less headache-y and annoying.
Are you a wiring guy?
I try not to be.
I will say, as a whole, I've actually kind of enjoyed,
I hated it at first.
So I bought like this plug and play wiring harness.
I'm trying to find a good picture of it.
And the story with the plug and play wiring harness
is like it's all pre-labeled
and there's a little fuse box.
So the way Jeep had developed the Willys was to catch fire.
So there are very few fuses in the Jeep,
but the fuses that there are
are not through a central block.
They're just kind of wired in here and there
to the actual wires that run in between the car.
So now I've got a fuse block
and then it's just really overwhelming
because you've got like 27 feet of wires
that go in every direction.
But when you actually start like putting things
where they need to go
and then when you start soldering things together,
it is a genuinely very satisfying experience.
So I've enjoyed it a lot.
I'm just finishing up like,
I think you called it cable management, wire management.
That's pretty awful.
But the actual wiring wasn't too bad.
Trying to get all of the hoses and wires
under the hood of any vehicle
to actually look really nice is incredibly difficult,
especially the more modern something gets
and the more sensors and hoses
and the things that there are.
Man, I mean, you see some people at a really high level
that are doing custom vehicle builds
and they've got basically every single wiring hose
and everything tucked so that all you see is motor, intake,
maybe power adder, whatever your setup is.
My God, that looks incredible,
but it also represents the, I don't know,
the culmination of probably hundreds of hours
of somebody really talented spending their time doing it.
Dude, it's so much work.
I'm trying to find,
I really don't have any pictures of this thing.
It's also fun just to get something hooked up
and hey, it works.
Yeah, well that's probably won't catch on fire.
So I did this like carburetor rebuild.
I can't find a good picture of it.
I did this carburetor rebuild.
I've got a full video on this coming soon,
but I've got no faith that that carburetor is gonna seal.
So like there's this big saying that like, you know,
this stuff isn't made like it's used to,
which in some ways I do believe completely.
So I bought a new old carburetor rebuild kit
for this little Carter carburetor
that was like last milled in the 80s.
Yeah, because weirdly,
it sounds like there's not any good rebuild kits left over
for the carb that you have being produced right now.
The new ones, like I've heard that the quality is really low
and you know, the little seals don't work properly.
So I bought one, like it was really expensive.
I bought one of the last new old stock ones.
But the problem is, even though it's expensive
and I'm sure the quality of parts was high,
after sitting in a box for 45 years,
I'm not sure the gaskets are quite as sealedy
as they once were.
I'm with you on that.
So I put it together, you know,
I've had the engine running just by pouring gas down the carb.
And I've noticed that there's gas everywhere.
So is it because I've spilled gas everywhere
or is it because it's actually coming out of the carburetor?
Who's to say?
Could be both.
I will find out this weekend
because I'm gonna hook the fuel pump up to it
and see where the gas is coming from.
And I've also, I think I've had a catastrophic realization.
This is the stuff you didn't tell me about projects.
It's like the little stuff
that just drives you up the wall.
You're like, oh, that's great.
You put engines and stuff and that part's cool.
But then you don't realize that, hmm,
maybe my oil filter is gonna get in the way of the alternator
and I gotta take it off for the 19th time.
That's the part I didn't realize
is the putting things on and then taking it off.
But then putting it on and off again
about three more times.
Well, yeah, I mean, the other thing,
anybody who's spent some time working on stuff
will be able to relate to is get a certain part,
test fit it, that part's not gonna work
and then immediately go on and order a different one.
Oh yeah, you've done that many a time?
You as well?
Even a professional?
Where?
No, yeah, we're just hobby, we're just hobby guys.
We make plenty of mistakes, learn stuff.
I mean, that's the whole point.
I wouldn't have anybody bring their car to me
to do a restoration on it, but I like working on my own stuff.
So if your wife comes to you and is like,
I need you to put a wiring harness in my Chevy C10.
I will say I know a great guy named Andy.
You wouldn't do it?
No, her truck, her C10, my wife has a 66 C10.
The wiring.
Who's to know how that was to happen?
The wiring under the dash is a bit of a rat's nest.
It's not great and I have talked to Andy about it.
I don't wanna rewire her truck, that sounds awful.
But like, okay.
How does that benefit me?
In no way.
You don't think she'll be like watching you
like underneath that dash for four hours
to be like, wow, what a hot stud.
I don't have to wire her truck for her to say that.
Walk into the room.
Well, some of us don't have that ability case.
So we have to go rewire underneath the dash.
God, God.
Is that, is that your wife is hoping
that you'll rewire her 500E?
Her fiat 500E, I let him dead.
That is decidedly a less cinematic picture
that I'm picturing.
Tommy and like his mechanics onesie.
Upside down under a fiat 500E rewiring it.
Just nipping high voltage cables left and right.
But the thing I'm realizing is you got to embrace
the rat's nest.
Like just cause it's a rat's nest doesn't mean it's bad.
Are the wires going to where they need to go?
No.
Oh.
So yeah, I've seen, I've seen wire nuts under there.
Like, you know, if you pull a light fixture in your house
and there's the wire nut joining wires.
Not great.
That is not supposed to be in a car.
Oh, shit, I got to rewire the whole Jeep now.
Thanks for the heads up on that one.
Oh man.
Oh man.
So it's really, is it like dangerous bad?
Does Cole have to bleep your profanity?
No, I know, I'm sorry.
One guy said he would unsubscribe if I swore.
Ooh.
So I'm sorry to that guy.
That's not typically a big issue with Tommy.
Yeah.
I get passionate about wire nuts.
From off camera.
What was your question?
Is it like a hazard, this C10?
It could be.
It has hazard potential.
Hazard adjacent?
Yeah.
Do the headlights work?
I mean, define work.
Do they illuminate anything?
No.
No.
They do not.
Do they turn on?
They do turn on.
They illuminate.
They luce.
They don't.
Wow.
They do not.
This truck is interesting
because we've never talked about it in the podcast,
but it's a very nice truck.
It is very green.
It runs really well.
Yeah.
And you said it's got a nice slope to it.
I stuck like two quarts of ATF in it.
I don't know where it's going.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I like put a,
it was feeling like it was slipping a little bit.
So I was like, I know my wife doesn't check this,
not to out her,
but I was like, I know she's not checking her level
on her transmission.
So I put a good quart in it,
checked, dipstick, still dry.
Well, maybe it just had gone a long time.
Maybe whoever built that transmission
didn't fill it with fluid.
That wouldn't be any better, to be honest.
So it could just be like, it's a cool truck.
A little thirsty though.
It's a cool truck.
It's a cool truck.
It runs really well.
Carbureted 350.
It's snappy.
You ever had this experience where you're like,
you're driving like your old Mercedes
or like that old C10 and you're like,
start smelling something and you're like,
oh, it's probably the car in front of you.
Yeah.
But the car in front of you is like a brand new F4.
You're like, wow.
Maybe it's not.
I might have to kind of be honest
with myself on this one.
Yeah, no, driving home from Andes.
I smelled a kind of a warm smell in the Mercedes.
I smelled something, smelled toasty.
And I was like, I did smell that on the way to Andes,
but it's probably not my car.
It's probably the car in front of you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's a warm smell?
Like, you know how you can smell it.
Like a good ham in the oven.
You can, not like the vibe of the smell.
I mean, warm, like you can smell something getting hot.
Oh, okay.
Hot electronics have a particular smell.
Yes, uh-huh.
Right?
Like hot rubber definitely has a particular smell.
I know the smell, but I'm like, if someone doesn't,
if someone is a RAV4 owner of this podcast
and doesn't know that smell,
I'm trying to describe it.
It's like Christmas day, except you're very stressed.
You know what I mean?
It's like Christmas day,
except instead of making a ham,
you're making a bicycle tire, you know?
All the oil that's leaked onto the outside
of your powertrain is getting really warm.
And cleaning itself off.
And it smells of that.
Pretty smart.
Smells of hot oil.
Pretty smart.
So do you know, are you gonna look into a constant?
So coolant temp is fine.
That's all you need.
I think that, I think actually.
So the Mercedes does visibly leak ATF,
so I know exactly where that's coming from.
And I have a fully rebuilt transmission
sitting in my garage for...
Five days.
Oh, four years.
I have a rebuilt transmission.
It's hard to take something apart
when you have other things apart
and the thing that you're thinking about taking apart
runs and works right now.
It's like, do I wanna make this not work
while it's still working?
So I have a transmission to stick in that car
because it leaks like a sieve.
Right.
And our old mechanic Toby told me
that it would be cheaper to get a rebuilt transmission
than taken out resealing and going through the old one.
Original one, yeah.
Speaking of which, can you tell that story
that you told me about the Mustang
and the Corvette you were firing in that car?
Ah, yeah.
This is a great story, everybody.
Yeah, so on this exact same drive,
perhaps the vehicle that was actually smelling warm
was in front of me because something interesting
was going on in front of me.
It was a drive-in home on one of our local highways.
It's a four-lane total, so two lanes in each direction.
And I was in the right lane cruising
because I think that transmission is a little low on fluid,
which might have been what I was smelling.
Not that it matters, because I have a fresh one.
That will go in in a few years.
Ready to go, yeah, someday.
So, I was cruising in the slow lane.
Base C6 Corvette, kind of like copper-colored,
goes by me.
It's got cheap aftermarket smoke taillights.
The all-the-way driver-side taillight,
of course, didn't light up.
And then a little while later,
and he's just kind of hovering in front of me,
a little while later, a Mustang,
the S197, I think, last solid axle,
also with a V8, comes down the highway.
Those two get side-by-side,
they're next to each other for a little bit,
and then all of a sudden, Corvette goes hazards on,
most of which did light up, but one didn't.
Hazards go on, they both slow down,
right in front of me in another car
to like 15, 20 mile an hour.
And I wish I had somebody in the car with me to video it,
because I was like, this could be interesting,
could be entertaining.
So they do their little 321 go,
both take off, and as soon as the Corvette took off,
I'm sad to say, one of his aftermarket taillights
ejected straight out of the back of the car
onto the highway in front of me,
so I scooted to the side to not run it over.
Unfortunately, the taillight that popped out of this Corvette
was not the one that wasn't lighting up.
It was the one next to it,
so he's completely missing any lighting
on the driver's side of his car.
And they're like side-by-side,
I think this was like a base LS2 C6 Corvette,
they were side-by-side,
didn't really, it looked like they were both losing.
This drag race on the highway,
maybe the Mustang, maybe the Corvette
got in front at some point,
or the Mustang let off a little sooner,
but not 10, 15 seconds after their little race.
There was a cop at the intersection right there.
Oh, wow.
Which didn't pull out, didn't light them up,
didn't do anything, but they both tail-tucked,
filed in one after another into the right lane,
and were cruising at a very reasonable pace after that.
And the turnout from, they stopped at a red light,
and the turnout from my neighborhood
was, the first turnout was right before them,
but I should have gone to the light
and taken the second turnout,
so I could have, the Corvette guy had his girl on the car,
it would have been so funny to be like,
ah, bro, your tail light popped out back there.
When you did that pull, bro, you lost the tail light.
But, yeah, that was sad.
Ever consider the fact that maybe it was properly fast
on the tail light, but the sheer G-force,
attainable by an LS2 V8.
Honestly, it did not occur to me.
I mean, did you like see it,
was it dangling before it hit the ground?
No, it looked attached.
I was surprised, but not shocked to see it come out.
But the surprising part to me is like,
I thought that electrical connector
might at least attempt to hold it in.
There was a wire on the tail light,
you'll be surprised to hear,
but it did not stop it from ejecting
out of the back of the car.
And all over the road.
Yeah, it didn't really shatter.
It landed face down, so it's probably not worth
going back for.
Probably not a great condition.
To put back into the car.
Well, that would be a funny story
to put a road rash tail light back into your car.
And say exactly what you said, that the sheer acceleration.
You know, I'm really surprised.
I hope that one of the creators,
and I'm sure they are, of the Fast and Furious
is listening to this podcast as we speak.
Preferably on patreon.com slash TFL car,
because I would love to see in the next Fast and Furious
movie, a car so fast that the body panels
start falling off.
That would be awesome.
Well, I think a C6 Corvette is a prime candidate.
A base model.
So this is a bummer too, because I am
personally
a Corvette guy over a Mustang guy.
Yes.
So this was not a win for us.
So if you, if that tail light had fallen out and...
My wife is a Mustang guy.
Your wife is a Mustang guy.
Is she really?
But she's actually Chevy.
I know.
Yeah, she's all.
God, she's all over the place.
What the heck?
If that guy's tail light had popped out
and like smacked your Mercedes
and you had to chase him down,
could you have caught up in the 1973 450?
4.5.
280, sorry.
At the red light?
Probably.
At the red light.
Well, after they saw the cop,
I think I would have had a good chance.
So I had a big discussion with someone on this program.
What do you think is the correct amount of horsepower?
Cause there is a right answer.
Oh God, your answer is going to be so bad, Tommy.
Your answer to this question is going to be horrible.
Tommy is the master of hot takes.
No, it's something I truly believe.
The correct amount of horsepower is the amount of horsepower
that will allow you to do the speed limit
anywhere in the US.
But now, do you think this through?
Okay, you're like, oh, that's going to be 82 horsepower.
But a Chrysler K car won't do the speed limit
up by 70 in the mountains.
So that is not enough power.
It's a little more reasonable.
So there you, that's the right answer.
How, why would you need to go faster
than 65 miles an hour up by 70?
I'm not saying it's the desirable amount of horsepower,
but the objectively correct amount of horsepower
is probably around 135.
In the same way that the objectively correct food to eat
is steamed broccoli.
Yeah, that is a good point.
But you will never die eating steamed broccoli.
What if you choke?
You better not choke on me eating steamed broccoli.
Then I got to go in front of a million people
on TikTok about like he died.
I'd unbuttered steamed broccoli
once it's away from the steamer for a little bit,
it gets a little dry.
Okay, which is ideal with cookies,
not ideal with broccoli.
But real talk, in my opinion.
Tommy likes dry, stiff cookies, a chocolate chip cookie.
Tommy's ideal chocolate chip cookie is hard.
The correct amount of horsepower is 300.
See, he's not even denying it.
Yes, I do like a hard cookie because I'm metal.
You're not metal.
300 horsepower at 3000 pounds.
That is the ideal amount of horsepower.
Am I so heavy?
Well, because cars are heavy.
Did you not know?
No, I don't know.
This is the first I'm hearing.
I mean, hear me out, like, yeah,
there are some meadas that are about 2,400 pounds,
but most cars are 3,000 to 4,000 pounds.
So even 3,500 I take.
300 horsepower is enough power
for you to have fun with from a stoplight,
but not so much power where you're gonna get arrested
immediately with one little pole.
That is a smart answer.
It is, it is.
And I agree with it in many ways.
And in what ways do you not agree with it?
In the ways of variety.
I think my ideal garage has one car with 75 horsepower
and another car with 650.
No, this is new to me.
What's the car with 75 horsepower?
Now you're speaking my language.
I don't know, maybe a little K car or something.
Really?
Sure, I like K cars.
Like a Reliant K or like a, like a Lebaron?
No.
Oh, you mean Japanese K car.
Oh.
You're the first person in the history
of automotive enthusiasts to scoff
at any alternative to a Chrysler K car.
This man claims to love America.
And yet his dream car is a Honda Acty.
What he could be having, a Dodge Aries.
What are, what are you going on about here, man?
What even is a Dodge Aries?
It's a K car, the K car.
Look it up, pull it up.
Are any of them still here?
Yes, look at it.
Intact. Ideally wagon.
Have you ever seen an intact Dodge Aries?
No.
Well, they're clearly here.
In this millennium.
Yeah, trailer.
Cole, click that one.
Let's see what this beauty sold for.
4,100 whopping dollars.
So that is my ideal K car.
Yeah.
They even did, this is too much car for me,
but they did, they did some of these
with the turbo engine.
Oh no.
Which is, it's probably a little too hot for me,
but this is just a 2.2 liter.
This is the three speed automatic,
which is the one you want, because it's a cruiser.
You don't, you don't want a hot rod in your Aries K.
But that's a real K car.
You know what else Tommy really loves?
Is a Pontiac Vibe GT.
Guys, I have talked about this so much.
It's got the engine from a Lotus.
Admittedly the Aries wagon.
It's missing everything else from the Lotus.
Yeah, but it's got the engine, right?
If I had to heart from Tom Cruise,
that would be pretty cool.
I wouldn't be Tom Cruise, but I would have his heart.
Cole, look up.
Don't look at the outside.
Look at the inside.
Look at Vibe GT engine.
The interior, oh God.
No, not the interior.
Cole literally just went, ech.
So this is actually a really interesting car.
This car was powered by, I forgot the code,
but it was like 1ZZ2L something.
But it's a 1.8 liter, dual overhead cam,
performance engine, like an 8,000 RPM redline from a Lotus.
The other day we were driving back from the ranch,
from a chute, and Tommy saw a Toyota Matrix,
and he was hoping, he was so hopeful that it was an XRS.
Sadly though, it was the XR.
That's right.
Which, as we all know.
It does not have the 1.8 16-valve dual overhead cam engine.
No, it just has the styling that uses the XRS.
I think that's got the two liter single overhead cam engine.
But no, unironically, after,
we've driven a couple K cars, the real American K cars.
Not that weird Japanese crap you keep going on about.
And the turbo K car is an interesting car.
It is an interesting, admit it to me right now,
a LaBaren town and country turbo.
It's convertible.
It's no Alante.
You would rather have an Alante than a town and country LaBaren?
Yeah.
What are you, a communist?
I'm a man of taste.
That thing was made in Italy.
You want one of those Italian jobs?
No, you want an American manufactured.
Lea Iacocca.
Lea Iacocca did the 4GT.
And the Mustang.
And the Aries K.
A long lineage of success.
That's why the Aries holds value similar,
appreciates in value really similar to a 4GT first gen.
What do you want to bet?
There are more 4GT 40s on the planet
than wood paneled Aries K. turbo wagons.
This is a real conversation right now.
It's possible.
Lock in with me, Kase.
Actually think about this.
I don't think low production makes for a desirable car.
Name a Ferrari supercar that was high production.
Ferrari, if they built 25,000 F40s,
they would be less interesting.
That's all I'm saying, right?
Yeah.
The fact that there's so few of those kind of makes it cool.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, okay.
It's like a CTSV wagon.
It's interesting.
It's cool.
What are the production figures on Zipcars?
You remember those?
What's a Zipcar?
Zipcar.
Like the ones that you could rent?
Yeah.
I mean, didn't I just use like normal cars?
Yeah.
Rather than that, what's the car in Austin Powers?
What's the little three-wheeled?
Oh, the Sparrow?
The Sparrow.
Is it?
Are you thinking of this thing?
Could be.
Yeah, go for it.
Let's see.
The Corbin Sparrow?
Yes.
I think yes.
This is the one.
See, I'm sure they, I'm sure the Corbin.
Just look at the Corbin Sparrow, yeah.
I'm sure the Corbin Sparrow was a low production car
and yet not particularly appealing.
You're going to laugh at me.
First of all, screw you.
Second of all, as a kid, genuinely not even
pulling your leg right now, making your chain.
Corbin Sparrow, I remember as a little kid
seeing these in Boulder.
Oh, I believe that.
And they are shockingly expensive.
See what this one sold for on cars and beds, Cole.
Click the visit.
They are worth way more money than you'd expect.
This one's sold for seven grand.
Seven Gs.
That was a lot of build up for nothing.
What was, what is the name of that really,
really horrible, boxy, early EV that you see around?
City car.
City car.
I think that's what I was thinking of.
City car.
There's one in Lafayette.
I just talked to the guy.
This, that thing.
These actually were case.
Unironically, these were alarmingly popular.
I think they sold like 3,000 of them.
There's more of those in 4 GT40s.
So your argument's not working.
But let's see how many they sold of these.
This was an early attempt at like fuel economy.
That should tell you in Wikipedia how many they sold.
4,444.
No, it's electric, yeah.
Yeah, they're electric, yeah.
But that's another car I kind of want to have.
Two and a half horsepower is not enough horsepower.
We were talking about the right amount of horsepower.
You want the later ones with six horsepower?
Oh, that's.
It's just the hot rod.
But I think there's something like inherently cool
about these cars that just don't,
you don't see them anymore.
If we were cooler, we would test a swap that or something.
Yeah, you could do that.
It's like a nice first generation R4.
Cool car?
Yeah, yeah.
Cooler than a 4 GT40?
No, no.
Sorry.
Well, that's an opinion.
So I bring this up.
I just saw four versus Ferrari on the plane.
Had you not?
I had seen it, but I saw it again.
Really good movie, but apparently a little,
a little not quite right for actually.
Sure, I believe that.
But very well done movie.
Yeah, you said you haven't seen Rush, right?
The Ron Howard?
No.
Good movie.
That's pretty good.
That'll be my next one.
So that all these car related things were covered.
We talked about so many things today.
We talked about boots.
We talked about cases wrong opinion on K cars.
We talked about Broncos and Philsen's.
What a day.
What a day.
So if you guys have comments, be sure to leave them below.
If you want to support the podcast,
I don't know why you would,
but Defilcar is the place to go on Patreon.
And a big thank you to Cole behind the camera.
He's been producing next podcast.
We might get him on camera.
We might.
Yes, he's.
We might.
Is he saying yes over here?
He is not.
He's not disagreeing.
He's not disagreeing.
He's got so many words, but you never know.
He hasn't said no.
You never know.
All right guys, we'll see you next time.
Thanks for watching.
About this episode
The conversation kicks off with the “Ford Bronco Filson” special edition, explaining it’s a collaboration between Ford and Filson and then digging into the rugged-yet-premium interior, including pleated leather and covered door-card storage. They also pivot to broader Bronco updates—like “20% quieter” cabin claims—and debate how far Ford could push the platform toward luxury. Later, they get into “unfortunate car updates,” from V8/width trail-fitment talk to a long stretch of real-world repair and wiring stories.
( https://www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this episode of TFL Car Chat, Tommy and Kase dive into the newly unveiled 2027 Ford Bronco Filson edition, an ultra-premium, outdoorsy collaboration inspired by rugged Pacific Northwest style. Built to feel more like a high-end luxury cruiser, this version focuses heavily on premium comfort, featuring plush leather seats, durable fabric accents, and a much quieter cabin that blocks out annoying wind noise.
Switching from trail rigs to high-end speed, the hosts react to Audi's striking new supercar concept. Packing nearly 1,000 horsepower from a hybrid engine, its sharp, blocky angles look completely different from the smooth luxury styling Audi is famous for. Kase shares his firsthand experience driving Audi's latest high-performance electric car, explaining that while the dizzying acceleration is almost stomach-churning, the coolest feature is an advanced suspension system that automatically pops the car up when you open the door to make climbing in and out easy. Finally, the guys wrap up the show by laughing through their own ongoing garage disasters, venting about the absolute nightmare of fixing tangled wiring and the endless frustration of installing, removing, and rebuilding old parts on Tommy’s classic Jeep and Kase's project Land Rover.
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