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#343 FTC Crackdowns : New Car Dealer Rules You Need to Know

#343 FTC Crackdowns : New Car Dealer Rules You Need to Know

Wrench Nation Apr 27, 2026 37 min
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About this episode

FTC pressure on dealer pricing takes center stage as Ray Shefski of CarEdge breaks down junk fees, dock fees, bait-and-switch advertising, and why transparency matters more than ever. The conversation digs into how dealerships manipulate monthly payments, stretch loans to 72 and 84 months, and leave buyers upside down on trade-ins. Ray also shares CarEdge’s dealer transparency index and practical buying advice, including watching the out-the-door price, insurance costs, and total monthly ownership burden.

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Car

Delorean DMC-12

"...n of people, employee number, I think seven from DeLorean, calling in from Ireland. That was a great inter..."

The DeLorean DMC-12 is a sports car made in small numbers, with a stainless-steel look and doors that open upward like wings. It’s often talked about because it’s unusual and easy to recognize. The podcast mention is about the people and history around the car and the company.

Concept

FTC crackdowns

"[51.0s] For more details, dive into that. [53.2s] We just talked about the FTC as an enforcement wave."

The FTC is a U.S. government agency that watches for unfair or misleading business practices. When they “crack down,” car dealers may face more checks and fines if their ads or sales tactics don’t follow the rules.

Term

junk fees

"How'd you like to get rid of those junk fees, bait and switch tactics, all kinds of stuff that's happening."

Junk fees are extra costs a dealer adds to your car purchase that you didn’t really plan for. They can make the final bill much bigger than the price you thought you were getting.

Term

bait and switch tactics

"How'd you like to get rid of those junk fees, bait and switch tactics, all kinds of stuff that's happening."

“Bait and switch” is when a seller advertises one price or offer (“bait”), then changes the terms to something worse once you’re already committed (“switch”). In car sales, this can mean the advertised deal disappears or the final price jumps due to added charges or different vehicle availability.

Concept

out-the-door price

"You thought you were going to pay with this thing and it ended up being more. It's like going to grocery store bananas was $9. And you're like, wait a minute. It was $4. What's happening?"

The out-the-door price is the full total you’ll pay for the car, not just the sticker price. It includes the extra stuff like taxes and fees, so you can compare deals fairly.

Concept

level the playing field

"And he came up with the idea that we should try and help level the playing field for people out there."

It means trying to make car buying fairer for everyone. The goal is to reduce situations where dealerships can pressure people who don’t know what to look for.

Term

dealership

"New car prices are insane. You cover that. Don't make this mistake at the dealership. It could cost you thousands."

A dealership is where you go to buy a car from a seller. It’s also where you can run into confusing pricing or pressure to add things you didn’t plan on.

Concept

emotional buyers

"Warm up before you just go in cold and emotional. We're gonna get to that. And emotional buyers, probably a salesman's best friend."

Emotional buyers are people who decide based on feelings instead of facts. Car salespeople often try to get you excited or rushed so you don’t think as clearly.

Concept

window stickers

"Well, you know, dealerships, when cars first came out, before there were window stickers, before there were Manroni labels on cars..."

A window sticker is the official label on a new car that shows the manufacturer’s suggested price and important details. It makes it harder for dealers to hide what the car is “supposed” to cost.

Term

MSRP

"...before there were window stickers, before there were Manroni labels on cars..."

MSRP is the price the carmaker says the car should cost. Even if a dealer sells it for more or less, MSRP is the starting number people compare deals to.

Concept

dealer pricing based on customer enthusiasm

"...my son said to me... how did you price them? ...it was based on the enthusiasm of the customer... the price went up... the price was lower..."

The speaker is describing a time when the price could depend on how eager the customer seemed. Today, consumer rules try to make sure the price you see and the price you pay are explained clearly.

Brand

Nissan

"I remember back in the late, I guess mid 1980s, [235.7s] I was working managing an Nissan dealer ship, [239.6s] and we had an old facility"

They’re talking about working at a Nissan dealership. The episode is about new rules that affect how car dealers sell cars, so the brand matters because it’s part of the dealer network being regulated.

Concept

women's empowerment shows

"We've had a ton of women's empowerment shows [383.4s] with a bunch of authorities. [385.0s] And it's so true."

This is about how women are treated when they shop for cars or get service. The hosts are saying the industry has a bad reputation because some people act like women need a man to be involved or make decisions.

Part

clutch

"And she's doing, she wants to do the clutch. [398.3s] It's an older Aston, my DB nine. [400.6s] And, you know, it's a big repair."

The clutch helps the engine and the gearbox work together on a manual car. If it’s worn out, the car may feel like it won’t accelerate smoothly or shifting gets harder, and fixing it can take a lot of work.

Term

required fees

"And they, and they listed several of them. And it was advertising the price that does not reflect all required fees. So the FTC says whatever price you're advertising, it has to have whatever the fees are that you require to complete that transaction."

Required fees are the mandatory charges you have to pay to finish buying the car. The FTC is saying dealers shouldn’t advertise a cheap price if they’re leaving out fees that you’ll still have to pay.

Term

advertising the price

"And it was advertising the price that does not reflect all required fees. So the FTC says whatever price you're advertising, it has to have whatever the fees are that you require to complete that transaction."

This is about what dealers put in their ads when they advertise a car price. The key issue is that the ad price shouldn’t be missing mandatory charges that you’ll have to pay anyway.

Term

dock fee

"What the heck is a dock fee? ... Here's what a dock fee is. A dock fee is 100% pure profit."

A dock fee is an extra line-item charge added by some car dealers. It’s usually not a real “thing” you can point to like parts or labor—it’s more like a pricing add-on that boosts the dealer’s profit.

Term

rebates

"... the advertised price has to reflect rebates or discounts that are available to everybody."

A rebate is money back (or a discount) that lowers what you pay for the car. The FTC point being made is that if a rebate is available to most/all buyers, the ad shouldn’t hide it.

Term

discounts

"... the advertised price has to reflect rebates or discounts that are available to everybody."

A discount is any deal that lowers the car’s price. The FTC-related point here is that if the discount is available to everyone, the dealer shouldn’t advertise a lower price and then add the discount later.

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recent college graduate rebate

"say a recent college graduate rebate in that price, because not everybody's going to be a recent college graduate and qualify for that."

A “college graduate rebate” is an incentive that only applies if the buyer meets specific eligibility criteria (like graduation timing or proof). In advertising, bundling this kind of rebate into a single advertised price can be considered misleading if not everyone qualifies.

Term

advertise straight

"why don't we just advertise straight? People would, why are we so afraid that our competition will be cheaper..."

“Advertise straight” here means advertising pricing in a straightforward, non-misleading way—without burying eligibility requirements or incentives inside a headline number. It’s essentially the opposite of “bait” pricing tactics that make a deal look available to everyone.

Concept

lowest price to get clicks

"In order to get somebody to click on the car that they might be interested in, you have to have the lowest price or somebody's not going to click on it."

They’re talking about how dealers try to win online shoppers by showing the cheapest price in listings. The FTC is cracking down when that “price” is misleading or used in a way that tricks people into clicking.

Company

AutoNation

"He was iconic here in the Phoenix Valley before they were bought out by AutoNation and that was Lou Grubbs Chevrolet."

AutoNation is a big company that owns lots of car dealerships. The hosts mention it to explain that a local dealer was bought by a larger group.

Concept

dealer rules

"But so here we go. And I think about that. We can't just pick on our sector..."

“Dealer rules” are laws and enforcement that tell car dealers what they can and can’t do when selling cars. They usually focus on making sure customers aren’t misled about the real cost.

Part

alternator

"So we would compare notes and honey, how'd you do? She's like, yeah, I sold three dresses... And I'm like, yeah, the guy beat me up."

An alternator is the engine-driven generator that powers a vehicle’s electrical system and recharges the battery. When dealers discuss marking up an alternator, they’re talking about the parts-and-labor economics of electrical repairs.

Term

evasive pricing

"Do younger folks just not want to deal with this kind of flip-flop of a price, evasive pricing?"

It means the price doesn’t feel straightforward. The dealer may change the numbers, add extra charges, or make it hard to tell what you’re really paying until late in the deal.

Brand

Caravana

"a perfect example of it is CarMax or Caravana. Yeah. People will pay more to buy a car at either one of those locations..."

Carvana sells used cars with a more straightforward process and usually less bargaining. The hosts mention it because people may pay more if buying feels easier and less stressful.

Brand

CarMax

"a perfect example of it is CarMax or Caravana. Yeah. People will pay more to buy a car at either one of those locations..."

CarMax is a used-car store that usually doesn’t haggle on price. The idea is that you can see the price and buy with less hassle, so people may accept paying a bit more.

Concept

no-haggle situation

"People will pay more to buy a car at either one of those locations because it's stress-free. Yep, it's a no-haggle situation. There's no BS."

No-haggle means the price is basically the price. You don’t have to argue or negotiate to try to get a better deal, which can make the whole process feel calmer.

Concept

service department

"And I think any service department or even if we're selling the widgets, there's an experience about that and I agree."

A service department is where the shop does car work—like fixing problems and doing scheduled maintenance. When people talk about dealer rules, they often mean how that service is advertised and priced.

Brand

Lugra

"I brought up Lugra because Lugra was one of the first, if you remember Ray, service you can hang your hat on and the price is the price is the price"

They mention “Lugra” as an example of a business that was known for good service and clear pricing. The point is that customers value trust and consistency.

Term

price is the price is the price

"and the price is the price is the price and we've done the research and this is what you pay no more, no less."

They’re basically saying the price you’re quoted is the price you pay. It’s about avoiding surprise charges or bait-and-switch pricing.

Term

advertised price

"And that is that the price that it's advertised for online, whether it be on their own website or on cars.com or cars guru, whoever it is, whatever that advertised price is, that anybody can walk in and buy it for that price."

This is the price the dealer posts for the car. The point is that customers should be able to buy at that posted price without needing to do a specific financing plan or trade-in.

Term

cars.com

"...whether it be on their own website or on cars.com or cars guru, whoever it is, whatever that advertised price is, that anybody can walk in and buy it for that price."

Cars.com is a major U.S. online automotive marketplace where dealers list vehicle prices and details. The hosts mention it to emphasize that the FTC pricing expectations apply across third-party listing sites, not just a dealer’s own website.

Term

finance through us

"It can't be contingent upon, oh well, you have to finance through us or you have to have a trade in or there's these additional fees."

This means the dealer says you only get the advertised deal if you take their financing. The discussion is that the posted price shouldn’t depend on using their financing.

Term

additional fees

"It can't be contingent upon, oh well, you have to finance through us or you have to have a trade in or there's these additional fees."

These are extra charges on top of the price you first see. The point is that dealers shouldn’t advertise one price online and then only offer it if you accept extra charges.

Term

trade in

"It can't be contingent upon, oh well, you have to finance through us or you have to have a trade in or there's these additional fees."

A trade-in is when you bring your old car and use it to lower the price of the new one. The rule being discussed is that the online price shouldn’t only be available if you trade in your car.

Term

tax and tags

"...the only thing that the advertised price in the future should be is it's plus tax and tags. That's it."

This means the government costs to register the car. The hosts are saying the ad price should only be adjusted for these required charges, not for lots of extra add-ons.

Term

window tint

"It's not plus, oh all of a sudden there's a window tint or there's the desert protection package..."

“Window tint” is an aftermarket add-on that some dealers may try to include or upsell as part of the final price. The segment uses it as an example of optional extras that shouldn’t be quietly tacked onto the advertised price.

Term

desert protection package

"...or there's the desert protection package or oh well there was a rebate that you don't qualify for."

A “desert protection package” is a dealer add-on bundle marketed for certain climates—often involving protective coatings, film, or other appearance/paint protection. The segment treats it as an example of optional add-ons that can be used to inflate the final price beyond what buyers expect from the ad.

Concept

artificial intelligence negotiating agents

"But we created these artificial intelligence negotiating agents that will negotiate on behalf of a customer under an alias."

“Artificial intelligence negotiating agents” are software bots that can interact with dealerships and attempt to negotiate on a customer’s behalf. In this segment, they’re described as operating under an alias to gather pricing/fee information and generate comparable out-the-door quotes.

Term

dealer transparency index

"And we created from all that information a dealer transparency index. So you can look up a dealer and believe it or not, most dealers are transparent."

A “dealer transparency index” is a scoring or ranking system built from data (like fee breakdowns and out-the-door pricing) to show how clearly dealers disclose costs. Here, it’s presented as a tool for consumers to look up dealers and judge pricing honesty.

Term

add-ons

"And we break down what the average add-ons are at particular dealerships, how transparent they are with their pricing, what the doxy is."

Add-ons are extra stuff the dealer tries to add to the deal—often for extra money—on top of the car’s base price. The key is whether they tell you clearly what they are and what they cost.

Term

doxy

"And we break down what the average add-ons are at particular dealerships, how transparent they are with their pricing, what the doxy is."

“Doxy” here sounds like the dealer’s paperwork fee—money they charge to handle the paperwork. It’s important because it can change the final price, so you want it clearly listed.

Concept

A to F grading

"because we grade from A to F. And I think that's a good, I mean, if you think about the ways that you can sort of set a standard for a business, hello, transparency."

It’s like a school report card for dealerships. If they’re more transparent with pricing, they get a better grade (A), and if not, they get a worse one (F).

Concept

monthly payment mentality

"Yeah, they know how much it maybe-ish costs, but they get stuck in this monthly payment mentality. That is a problem, could it be? That is a huge problem. And the reason it's a problem,"

It means people shop by the monthly payment instead of the full price. A deal can look okay month-to-month, but cost more overall because of financing terms.

Term

loan

"or how many years you're being asked to pay on that loan. So if you concentrate on the payment, you've taken your eyes off the real goal"

A loan is how you pay for the car over time instead of all at once. The longer the loan term, the easier it can be to get a lower monthly payment—even if you pay more overall.

Term

out-of-the-door price

"which is to work on an out-of-the-door price first. And an out-of-the-door price is a discounted and agreed-upon selling price, with any deal-reinstalled accessories that you wanted, ... and then plus tax tags and whatever other fees there might be, as if you were actually going to write a check"

The out-of-the-door price is the total cost of the car after everything is added in—price, taxes, and fees. It’s the number you should compare between dealers so you don’t get tricked by a low monthly payment.

Term

accessories

"with any deal-reinstalled accessories that you wanted, not that they necessarily told you you had to have, that you've agreed to, and then plus tax tags"

Accessories are extras added to the car, like add-on features or packages. You want to know if they’re included in the deal price or if they’re being added on afterward.

Term

tax tags

"and then plus tax tags and whatever other fees there might be, as if you were actually going to write a check"

“Tax tags” means the government-required costs to register the car and get license plates. They’re usually added on top of the car’s price, so they matter when you’re calculating the true total cost.

Term

60 months

"if you want a payment of $500 a month, and you don't want that payment to be $500 a month for more than 60 months, you have to know that perhaps you can't buy something"

“60 months” means the loan is paid off over five years. A longer term can make the monthly payment look smaller, but it can cost you more in the end.

Concept

monthly payment actually buys dollars and cents

"So a lot of it has to do with understanding what your monthly payment actually buys dollars and cents wise, and then not allowing yourself to look at things that are more than that."

A monthly payment can sound affordable, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. This is about making sure you understand the real cost behind that payment, not just the number you see each month.

Concept

cost of keeping that car per year

"I think as consumers, we often forget about what's the cost of keeping that car per year. Are we factoring insurance premiums?"

This refers to “total cost of ownership,” meaning the ongoing expenses beyond the purchase price—like insurance, maintenance, fuel, and sometimes repairs. Dealers and buyers often focus on the payment, but yearly costs can be the bigger budget driver.

Term

insurance premiums

"Are we factoring insurance premiums? I think we forget that."

Insurance premiums are what you pay each month (or year) to keep the car insured. They can change a lot depending on where you live and what car you buy.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"I mentioned Corvette, probably not a Corvette, but there's a premium based upon a zip code and where you live and what kind of car."

They’re using the Corvette as an example of a car that can cost more to insure. Insurance price depends on the car and your location, not just the monthly payment.

Concept

premium based upon a zip code

"there's a premium based upon a zip code and where you live and what kind of car."

Insurance companies charge different prices depending on where you live. Your zip code can change the risk they assume, so the same car can cost more or less to insure.

Car

Kia Rio

"Next thing you know, wow, this is 30% more [1554.7s] than it was for my Kia Rio that I had."

A Kia Rio is a budget-friendly small car. The point here is that when you buy a different car, your insurance price can jump, sometimes a lot, so you should check the cost before you sign paperwork.

Term

insurance agent

"When people look at, before you start looking at a car, [1569.9s] you need to call an insurance agent and say, gee, if I look at X, can you give me some idea as to what my premium is going to be?"

An insurance agent is the person who helps you get your car insurance. You should talk to them before buying so you know what the monthly cost will be for the exact car you’re considering.

Concept

budgeting rule of thumb (10% of gross monthly income)

"we encourage people when you're looking [1609.8s] to buy a car that no more than 10% [1613.1s] of your gross monthly income could go towards the car. [1618.5s] And that's not just the car payment..."

They’re suggesting a simple money rule: don’t let car costs take up more than about 10% of what you earn each month. And they mean all the costs, not just the monthly payment—like gas, upkeep, and insurance.

Concept

upside down in their cars

"There's quite a few folks upside down in their cars. In fact, I thought I read, Ray, that trade-ins where folks still owe money is almost like at record high on how much they owe."

“Upside down” means you owe more money on the car than it’s worth. So if you try to sell or trade it, you can’t cover the loan with the sale price.

Concept

negative equity

"And the average amount today, Edmunds just came out with a report, the average amount of that negative equity is nearly $7,200."

Negative equity means your car is worth less than what you still owe on it. If you trade it in, the leftover amount can get added to your next car loan, so you may end up paying more each month.

Company

Edmunds

"And the average amount today, Edmunds just came out with a report, the average amount of that negative equity is nearly $7,200."

Edmunds is a car research website that tracks pricing and market trends. Here, they’re being used as a source for how big the “negative equity” problem is on average.

Term

7K

"if you're gonna finance closer to a nickel than add the difference to 7K. Yeah, oh gosh."

“7K” means $7,000. They’re talking about how borrowing an extra $7,000 can raise your monthly car payment.

Concept

used car today

"Well, it's hard for people to afford the average car payment on a used car today is $550 a month for a 70-month loan."

They’re talking about what it costs to finance a used car right now. The point is that even used cars can be expensive monthly payments.

Term

$550 a month

"the average car payment on a used car today is $550 a month for a 70-month loan. The average car payment for a new car"

They’re quoting a typical monthly payment number. The point is that many people can’t comfortably afford that kind of payment.

Term

$803 a month

"The average car payment for a new car is $803 a month. Who can afford that?"

They’re giving an example of what a typical new-car payment can be. The takeaway is that new cars cost a lot more per month to finance.

Concept

extended warranty

"Is this why we extended? Because some folks were shocked they were in the finance department"

An extended warranty is extra protection after the original warranty ends. It can help cover repairs later, but it’s something you should understand and price carefully.

Term

finance department

"Because some folks were shocked they were in the finance department and they, for the first time, heard seven-year, eight-year."

The finance department is the part of the dealership where they set up your loan and finalize the deal. That’s also where you may hear about longer terms and extra products.

Term

seven-year, eight-year

"and they, for the first time, heard seven-year, eight-year. I think there's some 10-year options. I mean, I get it, we gotta keep an economy moving."

They’re talking about car loans that last 7 or 8 years. That can make the monthly cost smaller, but you usually pay more interest over time.

Concept

10-year options

"I think there's some 10-year options. I mean, I get it, we gotta keep an economy moving. The new car market's a huge,"

They’re saying some loans can be stretched to about 10 years. That can reduce the monthly payment, but it may cost more overall and can be risky if the car loses value.

Concept

extending terms and concentrating on payments

"So it's, we just, the industry figured out that if they just keep extending terms and just keep concentrating on payments, that people won't really care."

Sometimes dealers make the monthly payment look smaller by stretching the loan out longer. The car can still end up costing you more overall, even if it feels easier each month.

Term

manufacturer's warranty

"Well, it ends up turning, let's just say after the manufacturer's warranty, we see this often, they get to a point where, okay, now I gotta start to out of pocket pay for some maintenance, some repairs."

A warranty is the manufacturer’s promise to cover certain repairs for a set time or mileage. Once it’s over, you usually have to pay for more repairs yourself.

Term

out of pocket pay

"they get to a point where, okay, now I gotta start to out of pocket pay for some maintenance, some repairs."

Out of pocket means you’re paying yourself, not using warranty or insurance. The hosts are saying that after coverage ends, repairs can become your responsibility.

Term

AAA says

"And gosh, I think AAA says, I wanna say that number's a lot higher, but let's just call it 1,500 a year national average for anything that's over 45,000, 50,000 miles of tires maintenance, that's not including a major engine."

AAA is a well-known organization that publishes car-related cost estimates. Their numbers are averages, so your actual costs could be higher or lower depending on what you drive and how you drive it.

Concept

costs after 45,000-50,000 miles (tires/maintenance)

"let's just call it 1,500 a year national average for anything that's over 45,000, 50,000 miles of tires maintenance, that's not including a major engine."

As a car gets past a certain mileage, you usually start spending more on things like tires and regular maintenance. The point here is that those costs add up even before you consider big repairs.

Concept

European vehicle maintenance costs

"If you own a European vehicle, double that number. And you add that burden of what could be another 150, 300 a month."

They’re saying European cars tend to cost more to maintain. That can happen because parts and labor are often pricier, so repairs and service can add up faster.

Term

trade it in

"And consumers like, well, I'm just gonna trade it in and they find out,"

Trading in means you give your current car to the dealer and use it toward the next purchase. The hosts are warning that it doesn’t always fix the affordability problem the way people expect.

Concept

subscribe to our vehicles

"We gotta subscribe to our vehicles, that's a concept. I think there's a few services."

They’re discussing paying monthly to use a car, instead of buying one outright. The idea is you could switch cars more easily, like a service instead of owning one vehicle long-term.

Concept

wasting our money on one of the things that we hardly ever use

"Do we just get rid of the whole phenomenon of wasting our money on one of the things that we hardly ever use."

They’re saying people sometimes spend money on car-related stuff they don’t really use. The point is to question whether that spending is worth it.

Concept

subscription

"because you put a lot of dealers out of business, would it be better to come up with a subscription? In other words, I pay 700 a month"

They’re wondering if the industry might shift from buying cars through dealers to paying for cars like a monthly service. The goal would be to make the system work better for both customers and businesses.

Term

lease

"It is, sort of, yeah, that sort of is, yeah. And then call the lease?"

A lease is like renting a car for a few years with monthly payments. At the end, you usually give the car back instead of keeping it.

Car

Ford F150

"My point is, Ray, I just don't see, I'll be honest, I have an 08 F-150. I have several vehicles, but I won't get rid of my truck"

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck made for carrying things and towing trailers. The podcast mentions an ’08 model that the owner has kept instead of replacing, which suggests it’s been useful and dependable for them. It’s the kind of truck people talk about because it’s built for real work and regular use.

Term

oil leak

"It's got a little oil leak, you know, and it's okay and it gets me where I need to go. It smells like me and I think there's a big sentiment"

An oil leak is when engine oil is leaking out of the truck. It might be small, but if it gets worse it can damage the engine or leave you without enough oil.

Concept

20 year mortgage eventually on a car

"What my point is, is there any way to get more creative other than a 20 year mortgage eventually on a car? I don't know."

They’re saying car loans can be so long that it feels like a mortgage. Paying for a car for many years can cost more overall and make it harder to move on.

Concept

robo taxis

"And the rest of us will have to look at robo taxis, subscription services, short term rentals, public transportation."

Robo taxis are self-driving cars you can summon like an Uber. Instead of buying and owning your own car, you’d pay to ride in one.

Concept

public transportation

"subscription services, short term rentals, public transportation. I mean, I think the chasm between those who can afford transportation and those who can't..."

Public transportation is shared transportation like buses and trains. The point here is that some people may rely on it more if owning a car gets harder.

Concept

short term rentals

"robo taxis, subscription services, short term rentals, public transportation. I mean, I think the chasm between those who can afford transportation and those who can't..."

Short-term rentals are when you rent a car for a few days or weeks instead of buying one. It’s another way to get around if buying a car is too expensive.

Concept

affordability

"And I hear CEOs of all the major manufacturers say we need to address affordability. I know they keep saying it at Ford..."

Affordability here means whether regular people can realistically afford to buy and keep a car. The hosts are saying automakers are worried about that gap.

Concept

sub $40,000 vehicles

"Ford's idea is, well, we hope to be able to introduce a number of sub $40,000 vehicles by 2030. Well, what are we doing for the next four years?"

“Sub $40,000” means cars priced under $40,000. The important question is whether the final price you pay is really close to that after all the extra costs.

Concept

average age of vehicles gone up

"Yeah, the average age of vehicles gone up."

If the average car is getting older, people are keeping their cars longer. That usually means more repairs and maintenance work instead of buying a new car.

Concept

post-COVID-ish free money

"and it seemed like post, well, post COVID-ish, you know, we had some free money given out and everybody went wild and bought everything."

After COVID, many people had more money to spend (through stimulus or easier finances). That can make car shopping more competitive and raise prices.

Concept

boomer wealth carrying the economy

"but boomer wealth is carrying the economy. And I worry like, okay, then what?"

The idea is that older, wealthier people are spending enough to keep the economy going. That matters for cars because it influences who can buy new vehicles and what dealers focus on.

Term

average asking prices

"I know that the average asking prices keep going up month over month. So that their actions don't match their words."

“Asking price” is the price a seller lists a vehicle for before negotiation. When average asking prices rise month over month, it signals that market pricing power is shifting toward sellers, which can affect affordability and dealer inventory strategies.

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