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421: Driving the Future of Car Culture with RPM Foundation and Nick Ellis

421: Driving the Future of Car Culture with RPM Foundation and Nick Ellis

The Collector Car Podcast May 28, 2026 35 min
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Ferrari’s new Luchae sparks debate over who it’s really for, with the hosts noting Ferrari expects “80% of the buyers” to be non-owners and reacting to the “$640,000” price. The conversation then pivots to RPM Foundation’s work: tackling restoration-shop backlogs, training skilled labor through McPherson College, and building an apprenticeship plus “endangered skills” program that pairs masters with apprentices and records the process. Along the way, they share rally formats, garage lessons, and a “keep cash and crush” game.

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Term

suicide doors

"This thing is it's none of those honestly. I mean the suicide doors are kind of cool but it just doesn't have any of the Ferrari language that one would hope for..."

Suicide doors are doors that open like they’re hinged at the back instead of the front. They’re a flashy design feature you’ll mostly see on special cars.

Term

a-pillar

"it's got a weird hood Front-end that kind of slopes down the windshield wipers are on either side of the a-pillar... Just it's just not my cup of tea..."

The A-pillar is the structural post at the front of the car, right next to the windshield. It helps hold up the car’s roof and also shapes how the front window area looks.

Brand

Tesla

"Approach it from them trying to cater to the you know the digital the techie crowd who love, you know Tesla's and such"

Tesla is mentioned as an example of the kind of “techy” car buyer the host thinks Ferrari is trying to reach. It’s less about the specific car and more about the audience vibe.

Car

Ferrari Dino

"So, you know if they had branded it a Dino, you know, maybe it would be much better accepted [160.0s] But again, you know, that was a lower price point car. This is definitely not that"

The Ferrari Dino is a famous older Ferrari-era sports car from the late 1960s and early 1970s. Even though it says “Ferrari” in some ways, people often think of it as its own distinct “Dino” model line. The point here is that the name “Dino” might have made it easier for enthusiasts to accept.

Car

Ferrari Luce

"...efinitely not that All right, so that's it on the luce be interesting to see it in person to see if it l..."

The Ferrari Luce is a Ferrari car that the podcast talks about as a special model. The host suggests it’s interesting to see in person, meaning it may look different or stand out more when you’re there. It’s mentioned as part of the episode’s car highlights.

Concept

stewardship

"If you're a collector you already understand stewardship preserving what matters planning ahead and passing things on the right way [229.8s] That's exactly how Paris style wealth approaches financial planning"

In car collecting, stewardship means taking good care of a car so it stays valuable and in good shape over time. It’s not just about driving it—it’s about planning, keeping records, and making smart choices. The idea is to pass it on properly to the next person.

Company

Paris style wealth

"That's exactly how Paris style wealth approaches financial planning as the Ferrari Club of America's official wealth management partner [236.8s] They help avid collectors who value resilience and attention to detail"

Paris style wealth is a company mentioned as a sponsor. They’re talking about helping collectors plan financially and take care of what they own. It’s not about car mechanics—more about protecting collector assets.

Brand

Ferrari Club of America

"That's exactly how Paris style wealth approaches financial planning as the Ferrari Club of America's official wealth management partner [236.8s] They help avid collectors who value resilience and attention to detail"

Ferrari Club of America is a community for people who own and love Ferraris. Here it’s mentioned because the podcast is talking about how collectors plan and protect their cars. It’s more about the enthusiast group than the car itself.

Concept

full-on restorations

"some of these shops that do full-on restorations are 23 years backlogged of cars projects that they're working on"

A “full-on restoration” is basically rebuilding the car in a big way, not just doing small repairs. It takes a lot of time and skilled work, so if there aren’t enough experts, it can take years to get done.

Concept

barriers to entry

"And to reduce the barriers to entry for young people who want to learn this craft"

It means there are obstacles that make it hard for new people to start learning restoration. If it’s too hard or too expensive to get training, fewer people join the hobby and the shops get backed up.

Company

RPM Foundation

"so what is the RPM Foundation doing that helps bridge that gap? So we have several different approaches now. We've previously been known as a grant-giving organization."

RPM Foundation is a group that helps fund training for people who want to learn restoring and preserving cars. The idea is that more training opportunities can help solve the “not enough skilled workers” problem at shops.

Brand

McPherson College

"I'm sure you're familiar with McPherson College That's, you know, the premier gold standard four-year bachelor's degree in vehicle restoration and preservation"

McPherson College is a school that teaches people how to restore and preserve cars. The host is saying it’s one of the best-known programs for that kind of training.

Concept

Automotive technology collision repair

"You've got a lot of students that are going into [548.3s] Automotive technology collision repair [550.7s] That kind of a program but for true"

Collision repair is what shops do to fix a car after an accident. It’s different from classic-car restoration, which is about maintaining or returning older cars to their original condition.

Concept

vehicle restoration and preservation

"That kind of a program but for true [554.1s] Disciplined vehicle restoration and preservation. There's very very schools very very few schools that are teaching this properly."

Restoration and preservation are ways to care for older cars. Restoration usually brings the car back to an earlier condition, while preservation means keeping it closer to how it originally was.

Topic

apprenticeship program

"So our approach now is to focus more on direct workforce development [573.7s] So we've actually built an apprenticeship program [577.8s] So that students can go directly into the shops and learn from the masters of this craft"

An apprenticeship is hands-on training where you work in a real shop and learn from experienced people. Here, it’s meant to teach classic-car restoration skills directly in the workplace.

Topic

endangered skills program

"The other two main initiatives that we have [630.5s] Are the endangered skills program and I know that you [634.5s] Frequent a lot of car shows and you I'm sure had a lot of exposure to all different types of cars"

An “endangered skills” program is designed to preserve crafts that are at risk of disappearing because fewer people are trained in them. Here, it’s tied to specialized restoration and preservation work for older vehicles.

Concept

pre-war

"Sooner or later you have this conversation [641.6s] You'll be standing outside a pre-war [643.5s] early car and [645.9s] somebody will say, you know the"

“Pre-war” is a collector term for cars from before World War II. It usually means an older, historically significant vintage.

Term

brass radiator

"This particular function on this car that you know the cork on the steering wheel or brazing on the brass radiator"

A brass radiator is an older radiator made mostly from brass. Brass was common on early cars, and it can be repaired by joining the metal again instead of replacing the whole unit.

Term

cork on the steering wheel

"This particular function on this car that you know the cork on the steering wheel or brazing on the brass radiator"

Some older cars used cork on the steering wheel for a grippy, comfortable feel. Restoring that kind of detail is tricky because you want it to look and feel right, not just be “close enough.”

Term

brazing

"This particular function on this car that you know the cork on the steering wheel or brazing on the brass radiator"

Brazing is a way to join metal parts by heating them and using a special filler metal that melts and flows into the seam. When it cools, it hardens and holds the parts together.

Concept

knowledge transition

"I know I know there's a couple restoration shops working with him to try to help that Knowledge transition so that we don't lose not only the skills and expertise, but the Information, you know the history, documentation"

Knowledge transition means making sure expert know-how doesn’t disappear when the expert retires or passes away. It includes both the skill and the background information needed to do it correctly.

Term

restoration shops

"Yeah, it's interesting because I visit a lot of restoration shops. I really love Going to restoration shops, you know, and they have their body guy."

Restoration shops are places that fix up classic cars to look great again. They often have different specialists for different parts of the job.

Part

upholstery

"Well, I keep on going upholstery. You know, your ears are number one. What's that?"

Upholstery is the work of redoing the inside materials—like seat fabric or leather. Classic car shops need skilled upholsterers because the details have to be right.

Car

Ac Cobra

"Yeah, I was just talking to a friend of mine who's getting a ac cobra restored and he has a real ac cobra that's unrestored. And he needs to get the seat covers upholstered"

The AC Cobra is a famous old sports car. People restore them carefully, and that includes getting the seat covers and upholstery to match the original look and fit.

Part

seat covers

"And he needs to get the seat covers. upholstered"

Seat covers are the fabric or leather pieces that go on top of the seats. When you restore a classic car, the goal is to make them look and fit like the original.

Topic

Amelia

"[1435.1s] We actually where I saw you at the amelia [1437.5s] We had just given the award for the first time at the amelia and we awarded it to keith flickinger"

“Amelia” is a major classic-car show where people bring collectible cars and awards are handed out. In this segment, they’re talking about a new award introduced there.

Company

Precision Motor Cars

"[1444.1s] With precision motor cars in the nb center keith is a fabulous mentor of young people [1450.7s] he's had many different interns and apprentices through the nb center and"

Precision Motor Cars is referenced as the organization associated with Keith Flickinger and the mentoring work at the NB Center. In this context, it’s being presented as a hands-on shop/training environment tied to classic-car restoration.

Topic

NB Center

"[1456.3s] If you're not familiar with the nb center that I know you are but I to your audience. It's crazy what I wanted [1463.9s] Really encourage people to look into this because it's such a cool place [1467.9s] And they take these cars nicole bulgari's private collection"

The NB Center is a place where people learn how to restore classic cars. The speaker says apprentices get to work on real cars and learn from very experienced people.

Brand

Nicole Bulgari's private collection

"[1467.9s] And they take these cars nicole bulgari's private collection [1471.7s] Of 300 kind of working class american cars and they give them these top [1477.5s] Level restorations"

They mention Nicole Bulgari’s private car collection. The idea is that her cars are used so apprentices can practice restoration at a very high level.

Topic

Great Race

"[1528.5s] Among the activities that we take place in [1532.5s] We put a team in the great race every year [1536.7s] And if you're not familiar with the great race, this is a timespeed distance rally that goes about 2000 miles over the course of [1543.1s] 10 days in the middle of the summer"

The Great Race is a big multi-day road rally where teams drive a long distance—around 2,000 miles. It’s set up like a timed challenge with different start and end cities each year.

Term

time-speed distance rally

"[1536.7s] And if you're not familiar with the great race, this is a timespeed distance rally that goes about 2000 miles over the course of [1543.1s] 10 days in the middle of the summer"

A time-speed-distance rally is a driving challenge where you’re expected to hit the right timing by keeping the right speed over the route. It’s more about staying on schedule than trying to beat other cars.

Concept

analog

"And you navigate each day to this set of instructions completely analog. There's no gps. No anything that you know that will assist you you have to just go by the written directions"

They’re navigating using paper directions instead of a screen or GPS. The driver and navigator have to follow the instructions carefully to stay on the right route and timing.

Concept

series of six checkpoints every day at the exact second

"You should be hitting a series of six checkpoints every day at the exact second that you're supposed to hit them. So it's like golf the lower your score the better"

They have to hit several stops (checkpoints) at very specific times. If you arrive early or late, your score gets worse—even if you’re driving fast.

Concept

x cup

"but they have a student division called the x cup. So if you've got student navigators and you're a 501c3 or a school"

The “X Cup” is a student category for this event. It’s meant to help schools and student teams join without the usual high costs.

Concept

501c3

"So if you've got student navigators and you're a 501c3 or a school. You can put together a great race team."

“501(c)(3)” is a U.S. nonprofit status. The event is saying schools or nonprofits with that status can qualify for help to join.

Car

oldsmobile tornado

"Right 75 and 76 exact same spec for the tornado. So we got a oldsmobile tornado that we. Ran last year in the race"

This is an Oldsmobile from the 1970s that they used for the rally. Even though it’s a big luxury coupe, it was still a good choice for the event’s rules and navigation challenges.

Topic

rally car

"So we got a oldsmobile tornado that we. Ran last year in the race and it's this big crazy 70s luxury coupe. But that was just an absolutely great rally car for us"

A rally car is built for rally events where you follow a route and timing, not just race on a track. Here they’re saying their car worked well for that kind of competition.

Car

1951 mercury coop

"And he had a 1951 mercury coop and he had a 60 buick convertible and a 47 Ford convertible"

This is a classic car from Mercury, which is a brand related to Ford. “Coupe” just means a two-door body style, and the 1951 model is from the early 1950s—an era many collectors love for its look and history.

Car

47 Ford convertible

"And he had a 1951 mercury coop and he had a 60 buick convertible and a 47 Ford convertible"

This is a 1947 Ford with a convertible top. It’s a classic car from the late 1940s, and convertibles are popular because you can drive with the roof down.

Car

Pontiac Firebird

"And so I got that bug from him my first old car was a 67 firebird convertible that I should not have bought it was a completely hollow from rust"

This is a 1967 Pontiac Firebird, and it’s a convertible. The host is saying the car had major rust problems—so bad that the body was basically ruined—which is a common risk with older classic cars.

Car

68 mercury cougar

"Yeah, I I'm tough to nail down in terms of what kind of car I'm in because I what car kind of car I'm into because I've got you know the [1789.1s] 47 Ford 60 buick. I've got a 68 mercury cougar. I've just got a 99"

This is a 1968 Mercury Cougar, which is a classic car from the late 1960s. It’s the kind of model collectors like because it has a recognizable, stylish look from that time.

Car

996

"Talking about the 996 And you know with the friday headlights"

“996” is a nickname for a specific generation of the Porsche 911. People talk about it because it’s a recognizable 911 and it’s often the one enthusiasts start with.

Car

Ford Mustang

"Yeah, no, you know, I I love mustangs. I got a gto But that was that was a found car th..."

The Ford Mustang is a popular American car that’s built for driving enjoyment. People talk about it a lot because there are many versions over the years, and it’s a common choice for collectors. The host mentions loving Mustangs as part of their car interests.

Concept

send to the crusher

"And then unfortunately one to send to the crusher hypothetically to the crush. Okay Here are your three cars."

A “crusher” is basically a scrapyard that destroys cars so the metal can be reused. Saying “send it to the crusher” means you’re giving up on keeping the car.

Car

Porsche 930

"A night is meant to be painful a 1987 Porsche 930 but Uh, it's got 80,000 miles."

“Porsche 930” is the name enthusiasts use for the older 911 Turbo. It’s a classic, turbocharged 911 that many collectors specifically want because of its look and reputation.

Car

Shelby GT 500

"Okay a 68 Shelby GT 500 If you don't know, I'm sure you do but my audience that's kind of the least desirable not as"

The Shelby GT 500 is a special, high-performance version of the Ford Mustang made by Shelby. It’s the kind of car people choose when they want loud, powerful American muscle.

Car

Nissan R32

"...s is the best way. Okay, and then the first year R32 Godzilla"

The Nissan Skyline is a performance car from Japan. The podcast talks about the R32 version as the “Godzilla” one, meaning it’s the most well-known and celebrated. It’s brought up while discussing which cars people want most.

Term

Godzilla

"[1899.7s] R32 [1901.5s] Godzilla [1902.8s] Skyline [1903.6s] So we've got an 87 Porsche turbo with a lot of miles a 68 GT 500 and a"

“Godzilla” is a nickname people use for the Nissan Skyline GT-R. It’s basically a way of saying it was so strong and scary-fast that it earned a monster reputation.

Car

68 GT 500

"[1903.6s] So we've got an 87 Porsche turbo with a lot of miles a 68 GT 500 and a [1911.3s] R32 let's say the R32"

“68 GT 500” is a 1968 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500. It’s a famous, highly collectible muscle car from the late 1960s.

Car

Mazda MX-5 / Miata

"...a car show and they've got their first generation miata Maybe that's not your bag, but let's get excited ..."

The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a small two-seat convertible made for enjoyable everyday driving. The first generation is especially well-known and often shown at car events. The podcast brings it up as something to get excited about at a show.

Car

GT 500

"All right, so you're gonna Keep the GT 500 you're going to cash in the 930 Porsche and you're going to crush The r32"

The GT500 is a high-performance version of the Ford Mustang. It’s the kind of Mustang people pick when they want more power and a more serious performance feel.

Car

911 930 Porsche

"...gonna Keep the GT 500 you're going to cash in the 930 Porsche and you're going to crush The r32 as much as it b..."

The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car model that’s been around for many years. The podcast mentions a 930 911 as a car people might pay a lot for. It’s used in the episode to compare which cars tend to be the most valuable.

Car

r32

"Keep the GT 500 you're going to cash in the 930 Porsche and you're going to crush The r32 as much as it breaks my heart to say that third one."

The R32 is a performance version of the Volkswagen Golf. It’s a small, sporty hatchback that’s known for having a turbo engine and good grip.

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