#66 - How Rob Purchased The Lowest Mileage Gen 1 Raptor In The Country & Other Car News!

Hey, whoa, take it. Well, you gotta save it for the show. Okay.

We've got to start the show by saying, Nick, I did a thing. Okay.

I did a thing six days ago and it has changed me forever,

or at least for the next 12 months, I bought a Gen 1 Raptor.

Do I get a thank you?

I think not only should you get a thank you, but I told Nick on the phone,

I'm on a crusade now to crusade to save as many Gen 1 Raptors as possible.

Hey, it's a good crusade.

You came across some interesting data since the podcast

started since I started telling everybody how great Gen 1 Raptor was

search results at a record high. Yeah.

People trying to buy them at a record high.

We saw the same thing in the LX470 market.

Since we've come on the air, I'm not saying I'm just saying,

I'm going to go ahead and let me see. I hope it is probably going to play,

but I'm going to try to pause it real quick. So what's the date here?

We have the video that was put up December.

I'm seeing a description real quick for listeners that aren't December 14th.

So exactly two weeks after we had launched the show.

And now, by the way, that was 2024.

Yes. Which makes a lot of sense because I told Nick as well,

I'd been tracking the Gen 1 Raptors even before we had started the podcast,

just out of sheer interest along with the lightnings. People know that.

But okay, that seems made up. It just seems made up.

I'm just letting you know. It seems made up.

That's fine. You can believe that. We'll let you sleep at night.

I will say that it wasn't at the top. The lightning was still at the top of the

list, but we'll get into the practicality of getting something beyond a single

cab. So December 24th, 14th, 2024.

Since then I'd followed the trucks and then the Google trends of those vehicles

as well for content purposes in my head.

They have never been at a higher peak for a longer time other than when the

trucks were first new.

Yeah. And I know a lot of people you can look at our long form and you can

say whatever you want to say. Well, the world is a short form content world.

We're getting millions upon millions of views every month.

And magically the search results of Gen 1 1 basically coincide with

when I started talking about them. And for whatever reason,

now I'm wishing I'd have never said a word because now I can't buy a Gen 1.

You can though. Why can't you? No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Let's stop.

Let's stop. So I'm going to let everybody in. Maybe your friends do the same thing.

I'm not saying we invented it, but we have a thing in my friend group.

If you like the Houston Astros and you wear a hat to the Houston Astros game

acceptable. If you wear a Houston Astros hat plus a shirt,

a jersey attached, we call it double dicken. You can't, you can't do that.

So it's sort of like all these corny, like Corvette 911 guys that are going to

get upset right now. If your buddy gets one,

it doesn't look right. If you get one that's, that's basically the same thing.

So could I get like a 2016 Raptor? Probably.

I could probably okay that. But Gen 1 now, I'm now full.

I can't even say the things that I want to get because someone like you and my

friend group is going to go get one. And then I'm not going to be able to get it.

I completely, I couldn't disagree with you more.

This is beyond the dome, no dome conversation,

which I got a bunch of messages in the, I sent you a couple of them dome,

team dome all the way, but we won't get back to that.

We know those guys P sitting down. Listen, why can't you get a, I got it.

So I got a super cab. All right. I want to tell a little bit of the story here,

but I got a super cab. I was not in the market for a super cab for a couple of

reasons. One being you almost never see them. And when you do,

especially in the low mileage configuration,

which I already have the title for the first video,

I bought the lowest mileage they call them scabs, supercabs in the country,

which it was like the anti-hoovy, you know, the anti-hoovy title.

By the way, huge hoovy fans, not meaning like anti-hoovy,

meaning like it's the antithesis of what

And I was in the market to do high mileage and then,

but the prices have maintained so strongly that you start dipping into the

lower mileage. And I just happen to get lucky. I'm going to,

we're going to do content on it. I'm going to do content on it.

It's going to do a whole video on it and kind of a deeper explanation.

But man, I like,

because it resembles the pre-runner kind of trophy truck look better.

I actually saw it mid week last week, called on it.

There was no picture of the sales guy sends me a quick walk around video,

which it's so funny that they started when they started doing that, right?

Like when they get out there and shoot a video for you. And then,

and by the way, I think that's fantastic. Yeah, for sure. I think it's awesome.

They go the extra mile. They're talking, you know,

while they're doing the video or whatever, like pointing things out to you.

This guy did a great job of pointing out some of the external flaws.

By the way, all mechanics,

you should be doing that when you're fixing people's car. I agree.

That's a good point. We're almost like wearing a body cam wire.

Yeah. Yeah. You're doing an inspection.

You take all the guesswork out of it. Yep. You know,

it'd be like, don't be the police officer that turns the body cam off.

Just keep it on. Don't be naked. He was a cop. Let's be real. Yeah.

Not a cop.

I just told you a story.

I almost pulled somebody out of a challenger two minutes from my shop this

morning. I told Nick the show must go on. Please don't do that. Yeah.

So look, man,

I think that the fact that they can do that technology allows them to just,

hey, this isn't even on our site yet, but let me get a video. I think it's

fantastic.

So I found it on one of the aggregates,

which it's a lesser known aggregate site.

And actually I'm going to reach out to them because it wasn't all the other

ones. We've talked about how we'll have car gurus.

We'll have all the big names kind of listed or bookmarked in our browsers.

It hadn't showed up in any of the big ones.

And I've used this other one also periodically.

It was on there. So anyway, I called no pictures, some of the video.

And that's when I found that it was a super cab,

which I wasn't really looking for.

And I already sold myself on a crew cab because the big net,

like you want the four doors, right?

So I was like, man, I appreciate your time. 25 hours later,

I'm like, wait, I liked those trucks initially.

I just couldn't ever find one on the price point that made sense.

I called them back, started working the deal, you know, for 48 hours later,

or whatever, I had it in the driveway.

And that's kind of where we are today. It's actually the only flaw mechanically

was an AC line. There was an AC leak. So I dropped it off at 8am.

It's already done. So after the show, I'm going to go pick it up.

But dude, I can't tell you how good of an experience I had.

It was at a luxury dealership, which when I called you immediately,

you're like, how's your experience? What'd you do?

And there's no tricks here.

I'm going to let Nick maybe tee me up for some questions,

but I did everything that you and I have talked about for over a year now.

Okay. So let's start out because evidently,

you're so excited that your story is all discombobulated.

So for all of our listeners, I apologize.

He stole my idea. So he's rattled.

He's rattled right now.

Okay. Okay. Um, you call on it.

Yeah. They do an initial walk around.

You kind of think about it and you go, I want to move forward.

Did you order a PPI?

I did very next morning.

I scheduled it for them to show up at the dealership to do it.

Okay. What was your, and by the way, we have no relation.

Let's go ahead and put this out there.

Hey, Rob did not call me and get walked through.

I do not know the dealership owners.

He does not know the dealership owners.

We have no relationship with anybody at the dealership.

We have no relationship with the PPI company.

There is nothing here that everyone listening can't do.

Yeah. Correct.

Correct. No smoking mirrors.

Okay. You order a PPI.

How was that experience?

He was incredible.

I told the guy, the sales guy, which was also great.

Hey, I like what I see.

I'm going to order a PPI to be up there tomorrow morning.

Or I'm going to order it for whenever I call the PPI company.

We can be their first thing in the morning. Great.

Put him and the sales guy in contact.

What was the cost?

All in all, it was 209 for a 600.2 hour inspection.

Pretty good.

Okay. And you get the full report, correct?

They just email it.

They email it and he calls me and we go line item by line item on everything.

Okay. So PPI is pretty squared away.

They show up.

The salesman works with the PPI company.

Yep.

There is no, and here's the important part that I always hear,

there was no argument with you getting a PPI.

Not one.

No, not even, they were encouraged to encourage it.

They're like, yeah, please.

Not what we see on the internet from some of you commenters.

Again, no relation to any of these people.

Keep going.

The PPI gets ordered.

You run through it.

So tell me what this guy tells you about the PPI.

He's like, well, first of all, it's a 2014 and it had his 44,000 miles.

Incredibly low mileage.

That's low.

Very well taken care of on the inside.

I mean, when I do the video, I still haven't touched it with anything.

It got dusty because it's fucking dusty out here,

but the exterior is a little dirty.

Interior, you couldn't tell that it was a 2014.

The guy walks me through everything.

The only thing it had, again, was the AC wasn't blowing cold.

Cool, no big deal.

At the end of it, when he goes line by line,

this is what I like to say at the end of it.

If it were your money, dude, would you hesitate buying this?

He was like, without question.

He goes, I would buy this.

He goes, it's not going to win any car shows,

because the guy, to my understanding that had it prior,

a little bit slightly older gentleman had traded it in on a luxury,

we'll call it SUV, I believe.

And he either maybe went off road once or twice

and hit a couple of things,

meaning there's like a little dent in the bumper and some paint blemishes.

Other than that, the thing's perfect.

The underneath, you couldn't even tell it's ever been in dirt or mud,

which was great.

Yeah, Texas truck.

Texas truck.

So the guy was like, it's not going to win any car shows unless you do a little bit

of the blemish work or whatever.

But mechanically, the thing is sound, the shocks, everything road smooth.

The transmission is great.

So all in all, it was great.

And that's when I asked him, would you buy it?

A few of your money goes, oh, without question.

What a, what a great feeling.

What a great, yeah, I know, right?

It was like, and this is what we have to say.

Even if that PPI had been $500, which it wasn't, it was 250 bucks.

The thing everybody needs to realize is you're talking about $250 to $500 for a purchase

that you're about to make approaching 40,000.

It's peanuts.

So the reason we tell people the stories we hear about people saying,

if somebody were to say to me, nope, you know, give me grief about a PPI,

I just wouldn't buy that vehicle.

Okay, I don't even, I'm not going to play that game.

I have yet, and we have a lot of PPI's going every week for different customers' cars.

I just don't have anybody that fights them.

Have you just had a curiosity?

And then you were just like, I've had some private sellers, yes.

Dealership wise?

Never.

No, not really.

Because they don't really care.

Yeah, it makes sense for them too to give you the reassurance to buy the car.

And by the way, they're not doing the work.

So that's why they really don't care.

They're like, yeah, man, if the guy shows up, tells us here to do a PPI,

like I just let him loose.

It's not like they babysit the guy.

We got to take human nature here and start to use some common sense.

If you're not asking them to do the work, why would they really care?

So if you have somebody, and again, I have had a few private sellers get weird about PPI's,

we just walk.

And I tell them that.

I go, bud, this is the biggest red flag of them all.

The PPI guy just shows up and does his job.

Like they can do it in the back yard for all that those guys care.

They just want to make their $250.

And by the way, usually it's like a lot of retired mechanics have got into the PPI world

and are working for these companies.

They make a little side money.

They're not really all that concerned with like, you know, blowing up a deal.

It's sort of like home inspection.

One of the funniest things is if you get an independent home inspector,

and let me give everybody a tip here,

I probably wouldn't use the home inspector that your real estate agent or the seller

is telling you to use just a little, you know, help there.

But to act like home inspectors are trying to blow up deals.

They don't really care.

They're just like, here's my report.

My reputation is the report.

Like there really is no reason to fight a PPI.

I have had a couple of private sellers do it, and we just walk from the deal.

Have you seen the guy that he's famously known for his home inspections?

He's like, I can't tell you who the builder is.

That guy is so good, dude.

And I love when he just starts rattling things before he gets in the house.

He goes, look at this hose bib.

And he's like, I'm not even in the house yet.

And I can tell you every other house on this block is going to have the same issue.

And I never said it's great.

Love that people are, you know, when they're really dedicated to their craft like that.

Yeah, agreed.

And if you're doing the right thing,

you already know somebody's going to find stuff on a home inspection.

So why are you worried about it?

Because all you got to do is say, I'm not fixing it.

Buy the house or don't.

Okay, I'll fix that little thing you told me to fix.

I mean, that's all that happens.

It's not like people get in a fist fight.

I don't know what there's such a worry about.

It's too many people have watched too many movies where that might happen.

Too many people pulling people out of challengers.

You know, I'm busy.

Back to the truck.

You can still buy a crew cab was my point.

I wanted to hear you say that's still a possibility.

No, it's not.

No, you've ruined Gen 1 Raptors on this show.

You will make Gen 1 Raptors great again.

You jumped the line.

I'm the one that popularized them.

And I'm going to go ahead and say it.

You can see the search results growth right when I started talking about them,

just like you can with LX.

People can think what they want.

I rain make.

I was the rainmaker for Gen 1 Raptors.

I rain make the popularity.

Oh my God.

I need to put that on a shirt.

I rain makers.

Hopefully everybody's in on the joke here.

Let's hope.

And if you're not, welcome to the number one car related podcast on Planet Earth

where we talk about obviously things to be popular.

So for everybody that knows, I have seen some distant pictures.

So I really am kind of going to find out this with everyone else.

We've kind of made that on purpose.

What's the decal situation?

So the 2014's were it's actually a special edition for those who don't know.

It's a SVT SE Raptor.

It had very specific.

You're going to love this graphics for this this year,

which was the final year.

And it was, dude, you know how much this package was?

Oh, it's got to be.

I got $2,800, $5,300.

It was exactly $2,998 or $2,995 for these graphics, right?

Yeah.

And when you got into like 2015, 2016,

there were some graphics packages that I ripped off

like the day people bought them that were like $5,200.

On what?

Look, you remember those things on the side that said Raptor real big?

Yeah.

And the mode ones as well.

Yeah, like, dude, some of those were on the sticker at like 48, 53, 57.

And here I am ripping them off customers' cars.

They're like, those things are hideous.

I'm like, well, why'd you pay for it?

Oh my god, premium form too.

Yeah, yeah.

No, no, it's always been a thing.

Like it's pretty ludicrous.

And back then 2014, talking about 3Gs for some stickers.

It looked like shit in 12 minutes.

Before you option these trucks out back in 20,

obviously 10 to 14, 13 and 14, I believe,

were the actual refreshers with the HIDs and the ones that I have,

which was kind of, it was good.

It was a good improvement on the interior, the infotainment.

That's the first thing I need, dude.

I need Sync 3, which gives me CarPlay,

which you did the CarPlay upgrade.

And I feel like it was probably the best modernization

upgrade you could have done to your LX, right?

So I definitely need to do that.

But I'm going to take cues from you.

Like after I do a video, I'll walk around the best.

I bought the lowest mileage Raptor on the channel,

which is going to bring a lot of new eyes.

I'm sure. I'm going to take cues from you

on how to approach some of these things,

because I want it to look good.

I want to OEM plus this.

And I told Nick, too, on the phone,

one of the reasons to do it is,

one, I've always wanted to buy one of these trucks

and own it and experience it.

And two, we've talked about what it would require

for somebody to get in and out of a vehicle in 12 months, right?

That's kind of the goal, is like spring to spring.

Maybe I want to keep it.

Maybe I want to flip it and get into something else.

There's no way you're getting rid of this.

That's what my wife said.

There's no frig...

Buddy, your VW is going before this thing.

I know. It's literally parked in the corner now,

but behind both vehicles, I'm like,

what am I going to do?

But I love that thing, too.

Like, what am I going to do with it?

But this is not leaving in 12 months.

That is not happening.

But if it blows the channel up and I get a reason to,

hey, maybe we just call it dug.

I got the best Gen 1 Raptor you could put on cars and beds.

Wrong. This Gen 1 Raptor is going nowhere.

You've only driven it around a little bit.

I know.

There is no way, after you drove this around,

I mean, maybe if gas in Texas goes to like 15 bucks a gallon,

you'll be like, hey, that's a little much.

But I mean, what are you guys paying down there?

Like $2?

Yeah. It's like $2.98 or $2.90.

I just paid $4.60.

Oh my God. $4.60.

Yeah. I mean, like I said,

I was told when certain people got in office,

my life would get better.

But I'm still paying $4.60.

That's for the after-hour show, right?

Yeah. Yeah. So here's the whole thing.

There's no way you can drive this truck.

And this has been why I've been on the Gen 1 Raptor

from the beginning.

First of all, it's really rare that a first generation

is essentially, in my opinion,

a better experience than everything that follows it.

That doesn't mean the Raptor today,

to me, is not a great truck.

There's something about that V8.

There's something about how that truck was set up.

There's something about it that is very rare

in a first generation of any vehicle being built.

Okay. It is a very unicorn thing in that way.

It's like the first generation was the best generation,

in my opinion.

Yeah. And that is no exaggeration.

Because I've driven them all.

And I would still probably own them all.

Like it's not me saying I couldn't own a Raptor right now.

You will.

Yeah. We all could own a Raptor.

It's a great truck.

There's something special about it.

I think this is one of those trucks

that, for people that understand what they are

and what they have, it could be one of those,

I own it. I bought it. I paid for it.

There's no bills on it.

If I've kept it well, this could be one of those things.

You look back and you go, I've owned it for 25 years.

Yeah. Considering the 6-2s can go half a million miles

if maintained properly.

Yeah. Exactly. It is one of those things.

It's like a 100 series Land Cruiser.

It's like a 200 series.

There's just vehicles that you go, it's paid off.

I've taken good care of it.

Yes, I've bought other things,

but this is just now something that's in my life forever.

Yeah. And the smile.

So again, I'm taking the first long trip on it.

I have a trip out of town next week.

So I'll put some serious mileage on it,

a couple hundred miles on it in a 24-40 hour period.

But just locally, here in the last four or five days

that I've had it, you get in it, do it just a smile on your face

and everyone looks over at it.

I mean, right now we're at the shop that's doing it.

They're like, man, this thing is incredibly clean.

These trucks are so cool.

When I first got it and I first went to a grocery store,

there was a fire truck that pulled up behind it,

stopped and just rolled the windows down to look at it.

And there was a guy in the back taking pictures of it.

Like, that's the coolest thing.

It just stops people on their tracks to admire the truck.

And it just, that's one of the reasons

why you buy stuff like this.

Like, are you going to go bahaing it?

No, probably not, but that's not the idea.

I know somebody's going to comment.

I took my bahaing.

I hope you did.

I went to the baha.

Yeah, yeah, like I really am happy for you, man.

Like this is one of those special, to me,

I get everyone likes what they like.

I am not a real truck person,

even though I own a lot of them for business.

I don't think a lot of trucks are worth the money.

I don't think a lot of trucks are that impressive.

I don't understand why some people even own a truck.

It's your money.

Obviously, I understand that.

But this is one of those trucks.

I think I could recommend to anybody and say,

you're going to love this truck.

Yeah, and the tech, man.

Let's talk about that.

You have a 2003, so even less tech,

but honestly, still pretty tech,

like packed for the year that you got with the night vision.

I have night vision, my guy.

I got night vision.

I knew you were going to say that.

But for 2014, I had always said,

1819 kind of peaked for a lot of manufacturers.

And I still believe that because this one doesn't have

the sync version that has car play and other things.

But the heated and cool seats and all these things that

aren't really like what a Raptor needs,

but it's awesome that it has it.

And at that price point, especially,

it's great that they included all those things.

But I didn't think a couple of years ago,

or even a year ago, I would go back four or five years in age.

I was like, for sure, I'm going to get something

in the early 2000s because great trucks,

the Coyote, truck-wise, ride, and all the tech's going to be great.

And I was in a lot of older Ford stuff growing up.

It has everything you need.

So here's my question.

Do you actually need car play?

Because you can hook up Bluetooth.

Yeah, I haven't hooked up with the cable anyway,

but I don't know.

I just like...

So here's where everyone I know is going to disagree with me.

I wouldn't mess with that.

Because as long as I can hook...

Now, this is just me.

Yeah, yeah.

I think you're going to get car play.

Yeah.

Okay, so if I can hook my phone

and listen to what I want to listen to,

that's enough tech for me.

I agree with you.

And here's where I have to brainwash myself of it.

Having ways up constantly is just convenient.

Having driven...

Which is crazy because you grew up in these places.

I know.

That's what I was just about to say.

I know where to go without having a look at a map.

It's just weird that I feel uncomfortable

if I can't look over and see the map with the...

I don't know.

You might have to go to a psychiatrist.

You're absolutely right.

I mean, that's crazy.

That's one of the things that needs to be addressed.

Because once you know how to get around Houston,

which you travel to quite a bit,

once you know how to get around Austin,

they're not all that difficult to get around.

No, you're absolutely right.

But maybe it's the police reported a head kind of thing

that I'm expecting to hear.

Because I'll tell you what.

Because you're real big on going 115 on the freeway in Houston.

It does not.

When you can only travel zero miles an hour.

I got to get the SET tuner to get that limiter off there,

by the way.

You can only go 108.

I don't like that.

I'm not really into that.

Yeah, I'm not into that.

But you cannot feel like you're going the speed you're going in this thing.

It feels like you're smooth, slow, but really you're flying.

Yeah.

So now my only real choice in the trucks is I got to get a TRX,

which is not enjoyable light to light.

Like you have the most enjoyable truck with insane power for what it is

that's still enjoyable to drive in traffic.

I agree.

You should get a crew cap.

Yeah.

I mean, this could be the end of the podcast.

Oh, my God.

Right where it's about to peak peak.

So I have a I have a crazy question because I've never really been around them.

What's it like the the the the super cab or no, what do you have?

You know, it's a super cab.

What kind of room, you know, what what what would be different than the crew cab?

I've really only been around the crew cabs.

You know, that was really all anybody ever bought around me.

So what's that like?

I mean, there were some in history that were horrific.

And there were some in history from manufacturers that were good.

Where does this one rank?

I think it ranks really good.

Like, you know, anybody that's ever been in the back of a crew cab,

most of them will just stick to Ford's.

You could fit a mattress in the back of a Ford crew cab, right?

Like a twin mattress.

This one, you know, reduce it about half a foot, maybe a full foot.

So it's it's smaller, but dude, you could fit three adults in there.

No problem.

That's great.

Yeah, it's great.

That's great.

I mean, especially something that has 44,000 miles on it.

Dude, I bought my GTI and I didn't realize it this morning.

So I went to go drop it off for the AC work.

I bought the GTI with 44,000 miles on it.

That might be my sweet spot.

Finding something in the 40,000 mile.

You're like, I want to find something with 144,000 miles.

Look at this 44,000 mile.

That exact that is exactly where it was.

It was another one in central Texas.

It was the same color as a crew cab, but it had been clapped.

And I was like, this is going to be more.

So let's also talk about something.

This kind of shows the softening of the car market we've been talking about.

Because if I probably rewind 24 to 36 months,

this is a four.

Ah, damn.

I was going to say it was like a 48.

It was getting close to 50 at the time.

Yeah, this was this was a 45 to $52,000 endeavor.

Yeah.

So for those of you out there that are waiting for like the bottom to fall out

and cars to be 50% off, we've kind of told you that's not where we're at.

So let's all calm ourselves down.

But to take something that you basically are $10,000 difference,

because you you ended up paying what 36?

35.

Okay, 35.

That is a $10,000 savings in 24 months at least.

And some people paid 50 for this thing.

Yes.

Okay, 24 to 36 months ago.

Guys, in an under $50,000 truck, that is a collapse.

Mm hmm.

It just doesn't look how everybody wants it to look.

The expectations for whatever reason are way higher than they're ever going to get,

because I think a lot of people don't really expect themselves to buy it if it

were really reduced in price anyway.

Right.

Because that means that most people are out of a job.

Right.

So there's no money exchanging hands anyway.

And now you just have everything building up.

This is what we've kind of told everybody, everybody with the revisionist history of eight,

nine and 10, 2008, 2009, 2009.

A lot of bought a house.

You wouldn't have any money.

Everybody was there.

Like they weren't, nobody was rushing out to buy homes.

That's why the collapse happened the way that it happened on both sides.

So if this car market were to do what everybody wants it to do,

most people wouldn't have the money to go cash in on it.

Right.

Dude, if you are listening to this and you have any inkling of desire to owning one of these,

go search Google Trends and go look at the search volume for genuine raptor terms.

And you'd be, you'd be lucky to get one now and in a good shape, good price.

Because unfortunately, I think between Nick and I talking about this and the content we're about

to do with this one, even the higher mileage ones are going to go back the other direction in price.

Yeah.

This is a pretty flat line.

So this is, this is what you would call, this is a flat line buy, which means you bought it at a price

that if you put a bunch of miles on it in the next year, tons of miles, you know, 12, 15, 20,000 miles,

which would be a lot in a year, 20,000 miles.

You would still expect yourself to be able to get out of it between 30 and 35.

Yeah, that's, that's exactly what I thought.

This is a flat line buy.

Now, a lot of people go, well, if you sold it for 30, you lost $5,000.

Like I put 20,000 miles on this thing.

I did, I do expect to lose some money.

That's the, that's a normal car market.

I know people are, are, are really caught up in what they've seen for the last, you know,

previous five years, but that's kind of gone.

I just don't see any way, shape or form that I don't see you drive this truck for years at a time,

because what is the replacement?

Dude, that's a great question that I don't think I can answer, because I don't think that there's,

there aren't any new vehicles coming out.

Maybe you can also chime in on this, that you're like, I really want this thing,

or I would look forward to owning this, that have come out now, and you know,

or it's coming out in the future, or they came out even two or three years ago.

So I'm kind of stuck in the past on the way here, back from the shop,

I saw an old Mazda protégé speed and I was like, oh, that's really cool.

But I'm like, that's literally a 25, you know, 20 plus year old car.

Why does that excite me more than most new things that are coming out?

I think most enthusiasts feel this way.

And I don't think it's about being bitter and being locked into the past either.

I just think we all kind of are resigned to the fact that

we're kind of in the soulless car era, right?

Like that's what we've been seeing.

That doesn't mean the new cars aren't nice.

That doesn't mean they don't have some things that are interesting.

It's just if you are a certain type of car buyer,

it's going to be very hard for things to impress you.

Because again, we talk about tech stacking.

That's really what modern car building is.

It's not making a better driving experience.

It's all about the tech.

None of us can reverse that.

You know, it doesn't matter how much we complain online.

They've already, I mean, these car companies are basically admitting

that they're pivoting to becoming software companies.

Right.

And that's the decision they've made.

Let's let's frame it like this because you've used this example before

when talking about the perfect two car solution, three car solution,

but your pair right now, the LX and the M3, what can you remind people

what you would be all in on if people were to buy them like today?

Or even maybe a couple of years ago, was it like under 60, 70?

Yeah.

I specifically bought my LX and pulled the trigger

because I know I could keep my two car solution under $60,000.

Okay, yeah.

So I'm at $59,000 landed into my hands.

I was $59,000 landed and I specifically wanted to show people,

because we had started this podcast when I bought my LX,

that I got a pretty good two car solution for under $60,000.

I mean, my M3 only has 44,000 miles on it.

Just so everybody who's new here, it was a failed auction,

okay, on Bring a Trailer, a phantom buyer, which I'm told never happens,

but it happened in an auction I was in.

So this guy bid it up to $46, $47,000.

Obviously it was a fake bid.

Buyer gets connected or a seller gets connected with me after the auction

because I was involved and I go, hey man, this is what the car is worth.

He goes, look, I need to, he was buying some land and he's like,

I got to get this out and he had a great car collection.

He had, you know, five, six, seven pretty interesting cars.

He's like, I'm getting up.

I got a land deal.

They're all going and he sent me pictures like, want any of these?

He was in Panama City Beach.

He was an engineer for Mercury Motors.

So I think it's a Honda company that does like boat motors.

So very knowledgeable guy, very upfront guy.

And I said, here's what I'll do and you got to get them to me.

So yeah, my two car solution, I am landed in my hands for $59,000 cash.

And that's an incredible duo to which just because even our interests,

as much as they are similar, they are very different.

Nick and I, for my duo now, it would be right at like 50.

You could get a Gen 1 Raptor and a Mark 7 GTI or even Golf R even at this point

for in the 50 to 55, maybe even sub 50.

And it's the most practical fun duo you could have,

especially if the wife has something.

So now throw in that, right?

If the wife has an SUV or another family car, sedan, whatever,

just talking about our two cars, that I mean, because also dude,

there's nothing under 70 really, that's like getting me super excited.

Do you have to go beyond 100 grand to really start opening the door?

I mean, we're talking about, you know,

4Runner, F-150, I mean, F-150 are landing invoice to the dealers at $60,000.

Yeah.

And they're pricing them at 64 on some of these packages.

It's like my two car solution or an F-150?

Same, my two car solution or an F-150, a new one.

I mean, you know, or a Silverado or name the vehicle,

Toyota Highlanders are getting up there, you know, Sequoias or what,

$20,000 plus $1,000 above my two car solution.

Or Ram RHO with 3.5.

Yeah, you're, again, if that's what people like and that's what you want to buy,

I understand it.

For all of you enthusiasts out there that tell us you can't do this,

you can't do that, that's not possible.

You now have two guys with two car solutions that's, you know,

less than a brand new F-150 landing on a dealership.

I mean, I just don't think sometimes we step back and go,

okay, have we been a little bit overdramatic because 2022 was what 2022 was.

And it goes back to that is where we're at.

And we're also back to and we'll always be back to the amount of legwork that goes into it.

I've referenced several times how many dealerships are reached out to for the CX-5 we got.

You were on auction sites, you were doing your due diligence for the LX,

you ended up finding it on eBay.

I'd been looking at Raptors for a long ass time.

And then it just so happened that it landed in Central Texas.

I wasn't planning to buy one in Texas because there was nothing around.

I was planning to go out of state.

Again, back to the work that had to be put into doing that, defining it.

And then I won't bore everybody.

Maybe we'll talk about it on another episode so we can get to other topics.

But the sales process was as direct as we've ever talked about.

I didn't know anybody.

I didn't say, hey, I do this content, hey, I have this podcast,

hey, I know these people, it wasn't none of that.

It was just human-human contact in a way that should be conducted.

And I got the outcome that I wanted, essentially.

With no issue.

No issue.

No extras in the finance office.

No pushy sales.

Nope.

And you were in and out in what, an hour?

Yeah, it was a little longer just because it was late in the day,

but it could have easily been 30 minutes.

Had another person.

Funny enough, have you been in this or known somebody

where you're waiting for somebody in finance

and the only reason it's taking longer

is because all of a sudden the person in there

wants to be a dickhead with the finance guy?

Absolutely.

Dude, this was, I won't say what kind of person was in the finance department,

but they were being really difficult with the person.

Yeah, and there's so many people that think we're talking about unique experiences.

You weren't buying some kind of special edition car or truck.

You were just buying the truck you wanted.

That was special to you.

That dealership acknowledged,

hey, we don't really like sitting on these vehicles.

This isn't really our wheelhouse.

Let's come in here, let's get a deal done.

They gave you no issue with the PPI.

They gave you no issue in the finance office.

There were no issues.

So before everyone says there's issues,

sometimes we have to look at how we are handling things.

Like you said, not doing more legwork,

not really searching out what you want.

You were very certain as what you would take and what you wouldn't.

This is the vehicle I'm looking for.

This is what I'm interested in.

You had a PPI done, no headache, very thorough.

You got walked through the truck without even having to be there.

You didn't inspect the vehicle.

They did.

Then you went, looked it over a couple things,

and you got the deal that you wanted.

I have said since we got on this podcast,

anybody selling you secrets of how to handle a dealership

is trying to take your money.

There's no secrets.

There is no secrets.

And that doesn't mean I'm bashing people that do that as content

or do that as their business.

But Rob, you had no connections, no anything.

You walked into dealership.

Everybody treated you with respect.

You treated them with respect.

You got the deal you wanted.

They got the deal they wanted.

No feelings hurt, no arguments, no yelling, no screaming, no haggling.

And what is there to talk about?

Let me give you two more points

that might completely solidify people saying

that this is somehow smoking mirrors.

The original price was $2,000 more than I got it for.

So I actually got them down on the price,

only because of my knowledge of the Fox shocks.

I said, look, it's coming up to the point where,

depending on how it was driven, they need to be rebuilt or replaced.

I said, do this for me if you don't mind.

This is exactly what I said.

If you don't mind, tell your store manager that this is the case.

And for him to go look it up and look at the scheduled maintenance,

or suggested maintenance schedule for those shocks,

and let me know what he says.

I was willing to work with anything,

anywhere in the middle of what the cost was,

which is 20, I think, $2,000 to rebuild and upwards of $3,000 plus to replace them.

He came back and said, this is what we have left in it.

We'll give it all to you if you want to come ahead and make the deal,

which was more than I expected for them to take off of their listing price.

That was one.

Two was the AC issue, it was cold that morning,

so the PPI only dropped the ball on this.

They didn't see that it was blowing warm because it was cold outside.

So when it was warm in the day, and I came back and said,

hey, guys, look, check this out, they said, they wrote me a, we owe you.

Go fix it.

We're going to reimburse you on top of that.

I didn't even tell you that part.

I forgot.

You couldn't have asked for it.

People want to say a lot of things when you know what you're talking about.

You've done your research.

You know the scheduled maintenance.

You say, hey, this is the situation it's in.

The PPI company missed something.

You said, hey, you guys missed this.

They're like, yeah, it's our bad.

We'll make it right.

I don't know, guys.

I don't know how many times I can say it.

There's no secrets to this whole thing.

It's being knowledgeable about what you're trying to do and not like,

I can't believe you missed the AC.

Hey, guys, you missed the AC.

You know, just want to let you know.

Oh, man, that's our bad.

And I gave you the option.

I said, because I Ubered an hour there.

I said, I said, no worries.

You guys can, because it was Saturday, I said,

you guys can take care of it on Monday.

I'll Uber back.

No big deal.

They felt so bad.

They're like, dude, we don't want to Uber back.

And you know, like, give me a second.

Sales guy got talked, goes back to the manager.

Just take it, dude.

Have it fixed.

Have it looked at.

Bring it back.

We'll take care of it.

Don't worry about it.

We don't want you to leave without the truck today.

I said, cool.

Works for me.

I don't know, man.

This is why I get very saddened by some of the comments we see.

Yeah, a little bit of heartache.

Yeah, you go, this isn't how it goes.

If you just have a little bit of,

I think it all starts with you doing your homework.

And then being able to say, hey, did you guys know?

I want to let you know.

Here's the maintenance schedule.

We're coming up on this or, hey, the AC is not blowing cold.

How do we rectify this?

There's some of these dealerships and PPI companies.

If something's missed and it's $1,000 to fix this AC problem,

you just go, just get the $1,000 off the car and I'll have it fixed.

I don't care about having the shit fixed.

But there's people that are going to blow a gasket.

And the minute you blow the gasket,

all of these people want to be like, F you, man.

Why are you blowing a gasket about just a human error?

Yeah.

Like, relax, nobody was trying to miss this.

This wasn't somebody trying to get over on you.

It's also seeing it through that lens

that you're just dealing with other human beings.

They're going to miss shit.

They're going to make a mistake.

And when they're at good stores, Nick made a really good point.

When I told him, when I found out a lot of these people

had been there a long time, he was like,

do you think if it was a shitty establishment,

these people would be there a decade plus?

No, that's just no chance.

And so when you start talking to these people,

they're like, I've been here eight years.

I've been here 14 years.

I've been here 19 years.

If the owner of that place was a bad human being,

the turnover would be insane because it is insane

at some of these stores.

But guys, you can feel that walking in.

You're like, why is everybody acting?

So you just leave.

Just go, this isn't the right vibe.

That's why I always tell guys, I'm a vibe guy.

Vibed guy.

You can go in and see a good mechanic shop

if you've been around cars long enough.

You don't even have to know anything about fixing the car.

You just go, what the hell's off about this place?

Right?

Like you walk in that dealership,

you're like, there's nothing off about this place.

I'm good.

This is going to work out just fine.

But you weren't argumentative.

And you had points that could have turned into arguments.

But you didn't approach it to start an argument,

which I think becomes very important

to get what you want in the end.

Yeah, and I got to say,

unlike what we've talked about with Toyota dealerships,

how they're always kind of dark and warm,

they had snacks and coffee and stuff.

And I'm like, oh, this feels great.

Guys, we're talking about video games.

Yeah, what kind of snacks you got over there?

Oh, lattes and espressos.

Matter of fact, I don't even want to leave here.

Yeah, right.

Can I just say to you guys clothes?

Yeah, I don't want to have to door-dash

something when I get home.

Can I get that food over there?

Dude, by the way, I never door-dash food.

I cannot stand it.

I've actually never done it.

Yeah, I don't like that at all.

Yeah, for those people that do, I just have never done it.

You're more brave than I am.

I'll just say that.

Yeah, agreed.

All right, well, wow, we spent a good,

I hope people are enjoying this conversation

because we're going to do a lot of content around this.

And back to put a pin in it, I'm going to take your lead on

how to address some of the pain issues,

how to address some of the, I mean,

the first thing I want to do personally is the interior

because Revive, as I've always said, is my favorite product.

It is so clean, but it does smell like 2014.

Yeah, you got a freshener.

Yeah, can I get rid of it?

Well, Revive really helped,

because I haven't had a vehicle this old in a while.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, okay.

Oh, yeah.

You can even use it on the carpet.

Yeah, I do have a carpet system.

Does that?

Yeah, you can do that.

I mean, I would use our enzyme product,

spray it on all the carpets, let it soak in,

let it kind of, it's kind of,

think of it like it kind of is a live product

that eats bacteria.

So anything that might,

people would see it as a deodorizer,

but it's not that.

It's just, it's a true, you know,

enzyme for those that have never used an enzyme

is literally like eating away the bacteria

and the stains that it's supposed to attack.

So I would probably throw enzyme,

because you got the rubber mats in there, right?

Yeah, which look brand new,

and the carpets look like they've never been stepped on.

Yeah, so just take those out

and spray some enzyme down

and just give it a light scrub, dry it up,

and you'll start to smell,

and then once you go through with Revive,

it'll smell like a brand new car.

That's the reason the whole system is done.

Right.

HyperCleanseware.com for everybody else,

wondering what I'm talking about here.

Also with the coating of it,

I want to, this ruby red,

and it's funny because someone's gonna pull a clip

from the back, from the past,

where they're like, I'd never buy a red car,

unless it's a lightning.

I don't consider ruby dark reds as reds.

They're a special kind of red.

It looks good.

It looks great.

Those, that, Ford has always done a good job

with that specific red.

So if you have a red or any car that has some sort of a

blemish that needs to get fixed,

like a scratch or a light surface, whatever,

how do you fix that before coating it,

or what are your thoughts on addressing it?

Well, some of it's not fixable, right?

If a scratch is deep enough, it's not fixable.

You can kind of sand the edges down

so it's less noticeable.

Kind of take the white out of it.

If people are kind of like wondering what I'm talking about.

But if it's fixable, you fix it,

but there are scratches that if they get down to primer,

or if they basically get through the base coat

and the clear coat, you're talking about

being pretty close to the metal, it's not fixable.

You have to go to a body shop.

Something that a Vila one step would be good to address?

Yes, that's what I would do.

On an older car, just a thorough one step

would be exactly what I'd be looking for.

I'd be interested in how many more people

have become fans who are interested in one step,

where they feel like they could do it themselves

without having to go.

Yeah, everybody should feel like they can.

Yeah.

Yeah, everybody should feel like they can.

There's nothing special about machines are safer

than they've ever been.

They're better than they've ever been.

Everybody should feel comfortable trying stuff

on their own car in that world, yeah, for no question.

All right, well, a lot of the stuff

I'm going to be doing in corporation or partnership

with other people so that I can film the processes

and talk to them as they do stuff.

Because we didn't start this channel as a build channel.

We're not wrenches per se, but we are people people,

people persons, and we like cars.

So we're trying to combine all the things.

And with that said, we're going to have our first guest show

probably launched late February, early March,

and then a string of cool guests to come along after that.

And dude, you have, again, a bunch of cool stuff

coming up at VR that you're going to introduce.

But let me ask you about a couple of things

while we're on the subject.

I had some notes here.

I've seen PPF really get dissed in the news here lately

in the car news, I want to say.

I'm sure you've got a lot of personal experience on this.

Yes, this is my world.

There's so much misunderstanding about paint protection film.

First of all, it's been around.

It goes all the way back to the Vietnam War type stuff.

I mean, that's how long the technology's been around.

When I first got into the business,

I was messing around with 3M PPF very regularly.

It was definitely a lot worse than what it is today.

You're 20 plus years away from that.

There's just a lot of misconceptions.

And like a lot of things, for those that think we are

somehow always protecting dealerships,

dealerships are sort of ground zero

for people getting a bad taste in their mouth

about aftermarket products.

I mean, there's a lot of people that have had bad lifts

done on trucks that they got from a dealership

because the dealership skimped out.

They lifted the truck to sell a big lifted truck.

It's not done well.

The leveling kit's not done well.

And then people start to bitch about lift kits and you go,

no, no, they bought the wrong one.

They went to the wrong shop.

And so people get the bad taste in their mouth,

which is why we always say,

buy zero aftermarket things from a dealership.

So for anybody that says we don't say the bad of a dealership,

that's the bad.

The aftermarket stuff that they sell is garbage.

It'll always be garbage.

They're not in that business.

They're in the distribution of car business.

You know, get a car, sell a car.

Everything else, they're pretty mediocre at, right?

That's just what it is,

especially when it comes to aftermarket stuff.

Having wheel repairs done, they're blotchy, they're terrible.

It's just not good.

And so when we look at all of this,

I think a lot of the PPF hatred is not understanding

that when you're at a dealership and you get paint protection film,

A, you never get full coverage PPF.

So you get the half strips on the hood,

the quarter strips on the hood, horrible idea.

It's too easy to just do the whole hood, okay?

But why do they do it?

Because it's cheap for them.

It's cheap for the companies they contract to.

They can charge you a premium.

It's all about cutting a cost.

Second to that, the PPF being put on at dealerships

is not the PPF that can be put on at my shop.

It is a lower grade, it's a thinner material,

and it is for major manufacturers,

but a lot of times it's reject film.

It's film that they wouldn't sell to my shop,

but they will put it on dealership cars.

It's called B grade film.

And where I've been seeing it is,

you know, maybe because my feeds are more filled

with cars that I have interest in, which are older.

If you have people that buy older Corvettes,

they buy older Mustangs, even Porsches and BMWs,

and they have a bad experience when they try to apply it one,

but two, when they remove it.

And that's when they're like,

shit, I should have listened.

I shouldn't have put this on an older car.

Should you put it on an older car?

That's, you get into some very weird aspects here.

We are, we're very particular in my business

about what we'll put PPF on.

There are even cars that I would venture to tell people

it's not worth it, the negative,

because let's just say you have an old vintage Ferrari.

So one of the things I got into an argument about,

probably two years ago, three years ago now,

I got approached about a Ferrari F40 from a collector.

And he's like, I want this whole thing PPFed.

And I go, bad idea.

Don't do that.

It's got original paint.

Don't do that.

Now, a very highly reputable shop in the Midwest put the PPF on.

I know all the players in this.

I know that shop.

Let's just say that shop may have even learned from me back in the day.

Okay.

Maybe that's when they got their start.

It's a terrible idea on a car like that.

Now, if that F40 goes to repaint,

and they have to repaint the whole car,

probably not a bad idea to just go ahead and slap.

Some PPF on when the paint job's done,

because now you got a perfect paint job, quote unquote.

Yeah.

And it's the values already out of the original paint, right?

It's not, it's not there anymore.

So it's all case by case.

And if you have a valuable car that has original paint

from that, that is going to be valuable,

is valuable, is appreciating,

PPF is, is probably should have been avoided on your Toyota Tundra

that you just bought.

PPF should not be avoided.

Now, whether PPF fits you,

and how you care for your cars,

and how you want your cars to look,

and that's an important thing to you,

that becomes a personal issue.

But people just mix and match.

And you and I were talking about this.

We've gotten into this place

where people speak in absolutes about everything.

Right.

And I just showed you that PPF is not an absolute thing.

There's a lot of people that shouldn't have PPF on their car

because they don't take care of their car correctly.

It doesn't fit you.

It's going to be problematic.

There's a whole host of other people that PPF is a perfect fit.

I have PPF on my family hauler.

Glad I have it because it's getting torn to shreds by my kids.

And I mean, I would be removing scratches all the time.

The PPF is going to come off at some point.

And there is a, there is a chance I could pull paint.

Like I took that risk.

But for what it's provided so far,

I would have already been in some repaint situations

with my two kids.

Oh, okay.

That makes sense.

Right.

So it is what it is.

When you say people that don't maintain their cars properly with it,

do you just mean on the cleaning portion and how to store it?

You can't go to a brush car wash.

You probably should not go to a high pressure touchless wash

because it could peel edges up.

There's just things you got to be aware of.

There's a lot of videos going around about guys pulling paint

on very expensive cars.

When I watch those videos,

the people pulling the PPF don't know how to pull it off.

They had the complete wrong technique.

That'll do it.

There's actually a way to pull PPF.

So everybody knows if you watch somebody pull PPF

and they're trying to peel it back like a sticker,

that's a surefire way to turn that channel off.

You pull the PPF towards you while using heat

in front of where you're pulling.

So you grab the piece by, you know, like in a fist

and you pull it towards your body,

you don't try to peel it like a sticker.

So when I see people pull paint and they go,

oh, I'm going to show you how to remove PPF.

And then I see that I go, that looks staged or stupidity.

I don't know which one.

That's a good rule of thumb for most things you're trying to remove

with adhesive is just pulling it towards you, not up like a sticker.

I would think that that is common sense.

Yes, it's not.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like we all have to say some of these things out loud is that,

yes, I've pulled paint.

Tesla was the worst.

So when Tesla was painting cars outside for anybody that didn't know

that that was going on back in the day,

I could put a piece of PPF on the front bumper that wasn't even locked down yet.

And it started to tack up a little bit,

like started to grab because I hadn't got to that spot yet.

I'd go to pull it off and they just start pulling chunks of paint.

It was interesting.

I was around somewhat in that time,

how popular those cars were for PPF, like immediately.

Yep.

And they were so easy to apply and the margins must have been great

for I guess people applying them to those cars.

Well, they were great at one point.

And then it became, I mean, you could do a full front.

Just so everybody knows a full front is mirrors forward on the car.

There's people that have full fronts done by lunchtime.

Yeah.

You know, a C8 Corvette, you're not getting a full front done before lunchtime,

right?

Like it's a process.

There's a lot of pieces on that front bumper.

Lamborghini Urus, another one, a lot of pieces.

You have to be honest with yourself as a consumer.

Are you going to take care of the car the way you have to?

Because PPF has all kinds of edges.

It doesn't matter how much you tuck everything that can start to peel up.

If you go to use a brushed wash or you go and use the high pressure

touchless wash that's spraying all this PSI at different angles.

So you got to be aware.

But yes, there are things that we refuse to put PPF on because

there's just too much liability with that car being the value.

I mean, but I have PPF two Carrera GTs.

Full body.

Actually, I did one completely engine out.

They pulled the engine out of the Carrera GT.

Original paint and everything just.

Yes, original everything.

Wow.

The guy was told, signed a waiver, tons of money.

Had a Diablo, had an LFA.

Nice.

You know, those kind.

I mean, this kind of guy, right?

Just I want what I want.

The engine was out of his Carrera GT being serviced.

And we PPFed everything, including down into the engine bay.

Wow, that's cool.

I got a couple of interesting stories here as we wrap up the back half of the show here.

Have you seen the video of Ferrari's new interior?

Why are you going to make me mad, man?

We've had a good show.

We have had a great show.

We've had a great show.

No volume here, but they've revealed their new, is it Lucy?

Loose interior?

I don't care.

Hey, look, it's right out of an F-Zero game.

My question is, wouldn't it be Luce?

Is it Luce?

I don't know.

You speak two languages.

This is true.

Yeah, but actually, I don't know what it is.

I'm forgetting more and more of my little language.

I only know Merckin.

Yeah.

The original designer.

Now you got a Raptor.

You definitely only speak American.

Just wait for my red watch.

I only speak American.

I don't even speak English.

I speak American.

Just wait for my red, white, and blue graphics.

We're going to love them.

Here's, I'm going to give this some fairness.

This isn't the most hideous thing I've ever seen.

No, but as it says, the designer of the iPhone, right?

Big part of this centered tactile driver focus,

but still looks like a car that was supposed to be made into an iPhone.

I know.

And you know why they say that?

Because of the steering wheel.

Nothing else is how it was supposed to be designed.

They're like, but we just put this old kind of vintage looking steering wheel.

So, you know, it's vintage.

That looks like an Apple watch.

The back look like your Apple watch.

I don't know, man.

We are where we are, you know, to be the guys that continue to get off my lawn.

It's really not that fun to be that guy.

It's just not that for me as a person that can go get into a F430 whenever he wants.

I mean, even this was the number one thing about SF90.

That was the first thing everybody talked about that got in one that could afford one.

They're like, what's up with this interior?

It just didn't feel Ferrari and I get it.

We're in a new age.

It's this new system.

It's this new, you know, sort of thing that we're doing.

But part of me goes everything with SF90, the fact that it's lost,

you know, 40 to 50 percent of its value.

It just kind of shows that people aren't buying those cars

to be in some kind of like tech show like you're at the sphere.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I know that they feel they have to do these things.

But I'm not sure they do.

It's funny you say that because I was thinking there was a couple of videos.

I've watched so much stuff on The Gentleman Raptor, but like reviews in general.

If we're just talking about review channels and hey, there's a ton of reviewers,

no shots at anybody specifically.

But there are certain things that over the last decade,

we've seen constantly through every channel where it is your job to be like the

roastmaster of car reviews where you have to nitpick at every little thing that's

supposed to make a car just terrible and unownable, right?

For The Raptor, it was like because of Supercabs, it's the door and a half,

there's less rigidity in it, right?

So some people would point out this the way that the doors might shake a little bit more

when you're closing it versus the Ford.

Okay, makes sense because there's nothing there in the middle.

But the way like to make a five or 10 minute, you know,

section of your video about how awful it is, most people do not care about that.

Like there's too much focus and emphasis on things that really don't matter to the consumer.

And it's just kind of been like an epidemic of just car reviews in general.

Like, all right, I do like some of the things that they point out,

but most of the things really aren't like on the people's mind when they're buying a car.

Well, I think that's kind of happened.

I've been watching some stuff on the R2 from Rivian, which by the way,

they did the they did the most insane camouflage of these things because it's just like,

it's not camouflage, it's just like stickers.

Like so they even went further ridiculous.

And a lot of people that are reviewing the Rivian R2, which is smart of Rivian,

are very tech focused people.

Okay. Did anybody think you guys didn't have the tech figured out? Like how many of you people

get in cars now and go, ah, they just don't have the tech figured out.

It's like, look, man, we're kind of past that.

Not with every car, but with 90 plus percent of cars, you go, they got the tech figured out.

It's just now, if I like the interface, if I like the user experience,

that stuff's just personal, but they have the tech figured out.

They know how to get your phone connected.

They know how to make the screen look at least somewhat understandable.

And here we are driving the Rivian R2 that's, you know, proposed to be somewhere around $45,000,

which I think that's probably not going to happen.

Wow.

But and I hope it does, you know, I'm rooting that on.

That'd be a great price point.

But the ones you want, I'm guessing are going to be, you know, 50 to 58 somewhere in there.

And you're kind of looking at this thing and you're going,

I never wondered if Rivian had that shit figured out.

Like I just, I wasn't concerned that they didn't have the tech figured out.

It's, it's a tech company.

Yeah.

I think we're an interesting part of car buying research where the people that want to buy the

cars that are going to be slightly better and better text act are just going to seek that out.

And then the other half are really going to be going the other direction.

Like there is a cutoff point, I think, to where we all know when enough tech was enough tech

and you're going to be shopping in those years for the foreseeable future.

And then the rest of it is like, what is it?

See, you know, a CES, like everyone's just kind of be looking at like who's going to,

who has the most knowledge on the consumer electronic part of it.

I have a weird question.

Rivian puts out multiple R twos, but none of them have full self-driving enabled.

From my understanding, I mean, the biggest reviewer of these types of cars

on his channel goes, this isn't, I can't tell, test full self-driving.

Do you find that strange?

I'm not saying that's all of them, but this specific guy that has a million and a half

subscribers, I think would have gotten the best one.

I don't think Rivian's dumb enough to give him like, you know, the one that's crappy.

The base model.

Yeah.

Which he didn't get the base model.

I kind of just figured they'd be allowed to test the full self-driving, didn't you?

I've thought the opposite that full self-driving will be for fleets and other uses.

The consumer is going to be less and less.

Yeah.

But I'm saying for the reviewers, didn't you think they'd be able to show that off?

Yeah.

That makes sense.

But if they're not planning on offering it in the large scale, like why even hint at like,

look at this button was in there.

Oh, that makes it whole.

Yeah.

That's different.

That's strange.

Yeah.

It was strange.

I was just like, because I did watch it.

I'm interested in what Rivian's doing.

Yeah.

I heard it was great.

It doesn't mean I'm like, doesn't mean like I'm out there telling you guys to go buy one.

I'm just saying, I find the content interesting.

I like the two knobs that they have on the steering wheel because their steering

wheel is not cluttered.

So I'm like, oh, OK.

That's kind of cool.

Then they get to the end of the review and they're like, here's the button for full self-driving,

but it's not it's not enabled.

And I'm like, isn't this what we're all doing here?

What are we doing?

I found it strange.

I'm sure there's a reason.

Let me be clear.

I'm sure there's a regulatory reason or something.

I'm not judging any of that.

Yeah.

Very strange for the thing that everybody's the most excited about with these types of vehicles

to be like, we can't show that.

Well, you know what's the best part of the 2014 Ford interior is the volume knob that's this size.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I love that, dude.

Yep.

You won't miss it.

Let me tell you something.

You'll know exactly where it's at.

You'll never miss it.

It works.

Yep.

Didn't need to be rethought.

Am I wrong?

No, absolutely not.

And it's this if you're watching, it's the size of this timer that I have on my desk

because why wouldn't it be?

It's the best part of the interior.

Yeah.

You're like, hey, where's the fault?

You know, your passenger is going to know where the volume knob is.

Good.

I'm still going to think about what you said about not needing carplay.

I don't know.

I will see what happens.

I love to be a man and raw dog this thing.

Well, relax.

This is a PG show.

All right.

I'm like, kids are getting picked up from school right now.

They're asking mom, what does that mean?

Yeah.

Don't say that.

Yeah.

Mr. Cole, Mr. Cole's going to have to answer some questions right now with the kids in

the back of the Porsche.

Yeah.

Exactly.

All right.

We are going to work on content for both the LX and now the Ranger.

I keep thinking Ranger Raptor, dude, because I was looking at it so long.

I know.

Because you weren't really in this mindset until you met me.

So here we go.

Yeah.

Gen 1 Raptor, the lowest mileage Raptor in the country, by the way.

I'm going to start the video by being like, look, I click-mated you, but also it's true.

All right.

I got it.

We have to use all of the tools that we know that YouTubers have been using for 15 years

now just to get people in.

You got to do the YouTuber face.

This is the requirement.

Since you stole my idea, I am requiring the thumbnail to be YouTube creator face.

Macaulay Culkin face.

100%.

If that's not on there, I'm not okay in it.

Well, I'll have you know that I have some great AI tools that might help me do that

without actually having to do that.

And that is not accepted either.

Well, you'll never know.

You're going to error a photographer.

You'll never know.

And I'm going to be like, hey, I want to know the origin of these files.

It's so real, you'll never know.

Claude is so good.

Dude, everything these days is so good.

There was a video that just came out before we hopped on.

I forgot what it's called, like Scene 2.0 or something like that.

Was it the guy talking to that green button?

And the green button was like changing his cadence when he was talking back to the guy?

No.

It was actually Brad Pitt fighting Tom Cruise saying, you saved Mr. Somebody who will

remain nameless, but there's files on this guy apparently going out and you could not tell.

And then the video continues and it's like, I don't know.

I'm not even going to say it.

There were some people that are no longer with us that were in this video that you could not

tell with AI.

And I'm like, this is, this is trouble.

This is trouble.

AI slot is going to go to a whole new level.

And that's why you can't put more tech.

The more tech you put in your Gen 1 Raptor, somebody's listening, somebody's doing this,

just letting you know, you might just have to plug the phone in.

Okay, what if I told you this and we'll end on this?

What if when I plug the phone in, the USB port might not be completely like reliable

and it drops from time to time?

I think you got to live with it.

All right.

Got to live with it.

That's fine. That's fair.

You know, we're not trying to give,

China is not going to spy on on Gen 1 Raptors.

Not mine. Not mine.

You just start, I don't know for anybody that watches Sopranos when he bought that

Escalade and ripped out the GPS.

He's like, I'm not going to have these.

You're not going to be tracking me.

Breaking our phones.

Give me a burner phone.

All right.

HyperCleanStore.com is where I'm going to get all my goodies to take care of the Raptor

and do some content with.

Do you have anything that you want to mention to the audience that you're working on

that you might want to allude to and leave them with a cliffhanger?

Because there's so much stuff you already want to do.

Well, we have a project done on the LX.

Yes, I'll get it.

And you guys will be seeing that in the coming weeks.

And that is probably the best upgrade to it.

I could have done for daily experience.

Ah, yeah.

Like something that you experience every day.

Let me help all you guys out.

It's not suspension and things like that.

That's not done yet.

But this was something I underestimated that it would make my life better,

you know, rolling around in that view.

All right, I'm really excited.

I better see your excitement in those videos when you're making them,

the way you're putting me on the spot.

Yeah, get super excited.

Super excited.

All right, everybody.

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Leave a review, give us a five stars, whatever.

And we'll see you guys next week.

See you guys.

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