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970: The Cadillac Irreleviq, A Car That Makes You Earn It, Driving Beyond The Brink

970: The Cadillac Irreleviq, A Car That Makes You Earn It, Driving Beyond The Brink

Everyday Driver Car Debate Feb 11, 2025 61 min
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About this episode

A lively discussion kicks off with Paul and Todd debating the relevance of combustion engines as manufacturers like Porsche pivot back to them amidst rising EV trends. They explore the implications for brands like Cadillac and the consumer's desire for engaging driving experiences. The episode dives into listener questions about gear ratios, torque, and the balance between fun and reliability in cars. With a mix of rants and insights, the hosts emphasize the importance of earning the driving experience and the need for manufacturers to create cars that engage drivers beyond mere numbers.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Concept

internal combustion engines

"...they're going to keep making an internal combustion engines, because from the moment these 2030 or 2035 hard lines were made in Europe for EVs..."

Internal combustion engines are the type of engines that most cars have, where fuel is burned inside the engine to create power. This is different from electric cars that use batteries.

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Term

EVs

"...because from the moment these 2030 or 2035 hard lines were made in Europe for EVs, those niche manufacturers were applying for exemptions..."

EVs stands for electric vehicles, which are cars that run on electricity instead of gasoline. They are better for the environment and are becoming more common.

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Term

EV

"...they do out of spec about EV's about. Yes, people that that one EV content are flocking to their channel..."

An EV, or electric vehicle, is a car that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. This means it doesn't produce exhaust fumes and is often better for the environment.

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Lucid Air
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Car

Lucid Air

"...ssue with an EV in the right context. We had that lucid air on our long term trip. It was phenomenal. Yeah. A..."

The Lucid Air is a fancy electric car that can go really far on a single charge. It's known for its luxury features and is a new player in the electric car market.

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Chevrolet Blazer
ArildV (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Chevrolet Blazer

"...e thing. GM can end production of the gas powered blazer by the 2025 model year. So that's now. No, don't ..."

The Chevrolet Blazer is a stylish SUV that is good for everyday use and can also handle some adventures. It's popular for its looks and features.

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Car

Cadillac Celestic

"...but okay. What does this do to the Cadillac Celestic, which has not been released at all Cadillac..."

The Cadillac Celestic is a new luxury electric car from Cadillac. It's part of their effort to create high-end vehicles that run on electricity instead of gasoline.

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Dodge Demon
Jeremy from Sydney, Australia (CC BY 2.0)
Car

Dodge Demon

"...the whole launch of the Dodge demon felt like somebody's YouTube video anyway. And that was done by Dodge. Yes."

The Dodge Demon is a special version of the Dodge Challenger that is built for racing. It has a very powerful engine and is designed to go really fast in a straight line.

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Dodge Charger
Ermell (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Dodge Charger

"...the V8 might make a return in the new charger, which is not a forward or anymore. We're back to the original charge everybody, which is two door. Yes."

The Dodge Charger is a large car that is popular for its powerful engines and sporty design. It's known for being fast and is often used in car racing and performance events.

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Company

AutoTempest

"...when you do you need auto tempest.com. Any car anywhere at any price auto tempest searches all the major car listing sites on the web local or nationwide."

AutoTempest is a website that helps you find cars for sale by searching multiple car listing sites at once, making it easier to compare options.

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Term

turbochargers

"Do small lag less turbo chargers, not legolas. It's moving. Full of movie references."

A turbocharger is a part that helps an engine produce more power by forcing in more air. Some turbochargers can take a moment to respond when you press the gas, but newer ones are designed to react faster.

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Part

ZF-8 speed

"He is the former owner of a BMW M235i rear wheel drive with the ZF-8 speed."

The ZF-8 speed is a type of automatic transmission that helps the car change gears smoothly and quickly, making driving easier and more enjoyable.

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BMW M235I
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Car

BMW M235I

"...ng transmissions. He is the former owner of a BMW M235i rear wheel drive with the ZF-8 speed. He kind of ..."

The BMW 2 Series is a small luxury car that is fun to drive and has a nice interior. It's popular with people who enjoy a sporty feel in a compact package.

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N55

"He kind of breaks apart the pieces, the components of these this car because he acknowledges that that engine, that N55,"

The N55 is a type of engine made by BMW that uses a turbocharger to provide more power and better performance in their cars.

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horsepower

"You've got all the horsepower."

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower means the car can go faster and accelerate better.

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Audi A4
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Audi A4

"In fact, it made him miss his old 1.8 liter 2001 A4. I remember those."

The Audi A4 is a stylish car that is comfortable and fun to drive. The 2001 version is known for its good handling and a range of engine options.

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boost

"but he said it had a little mound of boost, a mound of boost. You had to go look for it in the mid range..."

Boost is the extra power that a turbocharger adds to an engine by forcing more air into it. This helps the engine produce more horsepower.

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paddle shifters

"Apparently, the ZF8 could keep the engine above 6,000 RPM 90% of the time with paddle shifters. But that N55 engine never rewards the driver for using the paddle shifters..."

Paddle shifters are levers behind the steering wheel that let you change gears in a car without using a clutch pedal, making driving more fun.

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torque

"Of course it is. It's just a plateau of torque. The ZF also didn't encourage him to exercise the engine."

Torque is how strong an engine is when it turns. It helps a car speed up and pull heavy things. More torque usually means better acceleration.

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RPM

"bring him right up to 5,000 RPM, never giving him a chance to savor the mid-range torque in a fun way."

RPM means how many times the engine's parts spin in a minute. Higher numbers usually mean the car is going faster, but too high can hurt the engine.

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chassis

"It all fits in this chassis. We're good to go. The good cars, the really good cars, it's deliberate."

The chassis is like the skeleton of a car. It holds everything together, including the engine and wheels, and helps the car drive smoothly.

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Porsche Cayman
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Cayman

"...ower it makes. Everybody complained about the GT4 Cayman. The 981 generation, third gears to tall."
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Porsche 981
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche 981

"The 981 generation, third gears to tall. Where did Porsche test it on the Nordschleife?"

The Porsche 981 is a model of sports cars made by Porsche, specifically the Boxster and Cayman, that were built between 2012 and 2016. They are known for being fun to drive and having good handling.

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Concept

Nordschleife

"Where did Porsche test it on the Nordschleife? Which is a third and fourth gear track."

The Nordschleife is a long and difficult racetrack in Germany where many car companies test their cars. It's known for its twists and turns, making it a tough place to drive.

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Term

naturally aspirated engine

"...being a naturally aspirated engine, wind it out in third gear, reach red line, then happily shift to fourth..."

A naturally aspirated engine gets air into the engine without any extra help from a turbo or supercharger. This means it can feel more responsive and fun to drive, especially when you push the gas pedal.

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red line

"...reach red line, then happily shift to fourth, then you're back in the sweet spot of the engine..."

The red line is the highest speed your engine should go before it could break. It's like a warning sign telling you to change gears before it's too late.

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Nissan Gtr
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Car

Nissan Gtr

"That's what the Nissan GTR was when Todd and I discovered that"

The Nissan GT-R is a fast sports car that many people love for its speed and technology. It's designed to handle well and go really fast, making it fun to drive.

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all-wheel drive system

"...the grip from the all-wheel drive system is so good, but it's all the tires are turning at the same rate. So when you back out and turn the wheels, it's skipping across the ground."

An all-wheel drive system helps a car use all four wheels to drive, which can make it easier to control and safer to drive in bad weather or on slippery roads.

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throttle mapping

"I have seen this proliferate. And that is the throttle mapping. Because it's all it is. It's a map. Okay. The throttle mapping for any car you get in."

Throttle mapping is how a car's computer decides how much power to give when you press the gas pedal. It can make the car feel faster or slower depending on how it's programmed.

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manual transmission

"So when I drive a manual transmission on a canyon road and I get up to a speed where I am at, let's say red line is 7,000."

A manual transmission is a system in cars where you have to change gears yourself using a stick and a pedal. It gives you more control over how the car drives.

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Jeep Cherokee
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Jeep Cherokee

"...ig jeep history, folks. Not counting his mom's 86 Cherokee pioneer when he was 16 years old."

The Jeep Cherokee is a small SUV that can handle rough roads and is good for both city driving and adventures. It's popular for its flexibility and comfort.

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Jeep Wrangler
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Jeep Wrangler

"when he was 16 years old. He had an 88 Wrangler, 98 Wrangler Sport, 98 Wrangler Sahara to replace..."

The Jeep Wrangler is a tough, boxy car that can drive on rough roads and trails. It's popular for people who love outdoor adventures and want a vehicle that can handle tough conditions.

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Chevrolet Silverado
LukaCali (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Chevrolet Silverado

"... replace the totaled sport. They took a break for Silverado because he bought a house and thought he needed a..."

The Chevrolet Silverado is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is great for work or family use. Many people like it because it can do a lot of different jobs well.

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Ford Mustang GT
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Mustang GT

"...years. When he was 15 to 17, his parents had a 95 Mustang GT and a 76 Corvette, his dad's,"

The Ford Mustang GT is a powerful and stylish car that many people love for its speed and cool looks. It's considered a classic American sports car.

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Chevrolet Corvette
Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)
Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"...5 to 17, his parents had a 95 Mustang GT and a 76 Corvette, his dad's, and he got to occasionally drive them..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and stylish sports car that many people dream of owning. It's known for its speed and cool looks, making it a favorite among car lovers.

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Acura MDX
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Acura MDX

"is that his current life drives a 2007 Accure MDX. Likes the updated MDX much more than the one the..."

The Acura MDX is a roomy SUV that is nice to drive and has a lot of tech features. It's popular with families because it has plenty of space and comfort.

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Dodge Ram
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Dodge Ram

"which is helpful. He's got a RAM, right? Looks like he's got a RAM."

The Dodge Ram is a big truck that can carry heavy things and is great for work or play. Many people like it for its strength and usefulness.

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Mercedes-Benz Sclass
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz Sclass

"Yeah, yeah. And he also says are his dreams of a Mercedes S-Class convertible AMG, something that he should give up on."

The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is a very fancy car that is designed for comfort and luxury. People talk about it because it has a lot of high-tech features and is known for being one of the best cars in the world.

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Acura TLX Type S
Ashriot987 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Acura TLX Type S

"and she likes it. Can you fit in a new TLX type S? Look, I realize I'm being very cavalier with you..."

The Acura TLX Type S is a sportier version of the regular TLX that is faster and more fun to drive. It's a good option for people who want luxury with a bit of excitement.

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Acura TLX
Mr.choppers (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Acura TLX

"But I take your point. The problem with the TLX, of course, as we've always talked about, is not ..."

The Acura TLX is a nice car that is comfortable to drive and has lots of tech features. It's a good choice for people who want a luxury feel without being too flashy.

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Audi Allroad
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Audi Allroad

"Yep. So I thought, maybe an Audi all-road. And then, yeah, I keep coming back to that perception thing."

The Audi Allroad is a fancy car that looks like a mix between a car and an SUV. It's designed to be comfortable and practical for different kinds of driving.

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BMW M40I
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M40I

"...hat vehicle allowance to go get yourself a BMW X3 M40i. That's a surprisingly fun car, yeah."

The BMW X3 is a small luxury SUV that is comfortable and good for everyday use. It's popular for its mix of space and sporty driving.

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Toyota Supra
Dietmar Rabich (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Toyota Supra

"... are amazing. I doubt you could probably fit in a Supra. You might fit, but you know, you'd be pretty unh..."

The Toyota Supra is a cool sports car that many people love for its speed and style. It's popular among car fans who enjoy modifying and racing cars.

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Mercedes-Benz GLA AMG
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Car

Mercedes-Benz GLA AMG

"We loved it too. The GLA AMG 45, really fun car. That led me down the world of..."

The Mercedes-Benz GLA AMG is a fancy small SUV that is fun to drive fast. It's designed for people who want luxury and excitement in a compact package.

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Toyota GR Corolla
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Car

Toyota GR Corolla

"... from my perspective. I kind of want you to get a GR Corolla, but I also don't think you'll fit and be comfort..."

The Toyota GR Corolla is a sportier version of a regular Corolla, made for people who like to drive fast and have fun. It's designed to be more exciting than the usual Corolla.

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Toyota Corolla
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Car

Toyota Corolla

"...om my perspective. I kind of want you to get a GR Corolla, but I also don't think you'll fit and be comfort..."
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Volkswagen Golf
Vauxford (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...s absolutely a sports car compared to a Jeep. The Golf R is fun on its own right. But I'm just saying, t..."

The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that is easy to drive and great for everyday use. Many people like it because it's comfortable and fun to drive.

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Subaru Wx
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Subaru Wx

"...g a little more casual in branding. I did think a Subaru WX would be great for you. It's good."

The Subaru WRX is a small car that is really fun to drive, especially in tough weather. It's known for being sporty and good in different driving conditions.

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Kia Stinger
MarcelX42 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Kia Stinger

"that's too much car. Kia Stinger. All-wheel drive with the big six cylinder in it."

The Kia Stinger is a sporty car that is fun to drive and has a lot of space. It's a good choice for people who want a mix of performance and everyday usability.

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Jeep Cj
dave_7 from Lethbridge, Canada (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Jeep Cj

"It relates to where we've been. He's been a Jeep CJ driver for 40 years. And wants to look at start g..."

The Jeep CJ is an old version of the Jeep that is known for being tough and good for off-roading. It's a classic car that many people remember fondly.

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Mazda Miata
Yaktatel (Public domain)
Car

Mazda Miata

"...iving skills, but he doesn't want to start with a Miata and work his way up. He says, I don't have enough..."

The Mazda Miata is a small, two-seat car that is really fun to drive. It's light and sporty, making it a favorite for people who love driving.

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Porsche Panamera
Alexander Migl (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche Panamera

"...Cayman would treat you very, very well. A Porsche Panamera would treat you very, very well. But a BMW M2 wou..."

The Porsche Panamera is a fancy car that is both fast and comfortable. It's designed to be a luxury car you can drive every day while still enjoying a sporty feel.

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BMW M2
Wikisympathisant (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

BMW M2

"...namera would treat you very, very well. But a BMW M2 would be great. A super would be excellent."

The BMW M2 is a fast and sporty car that many people enjoy driving. It's designed for performance and is popular with car lovers.

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Honda S2000
Handelsgeselschaft (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Honda S2000

"... been eyeing other cars like the 370 Zee Nismo or S2000 among others. Yeah, that's hard."

The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that is very fast and fun to drive. It's popular with people who enjoy a thrilling driving experience.

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