975: Left Foot Braking Standard, Nobody Shares Your Taste, An Actual Dipstick

Love them or hate them, everyone has an opinion on cars. But we believe we're all one great car away from a car enthusiast. So we're here to help you find a car you love. And let it take us to everything else in life. I'm Todd. I'm Paul, and this is the everyday driver car debate. What is this podcast 975? 975, they continue tired. Keep adding up. Mind boggled by the fact that we're here again. Again, every 25 podcasts we do alive that's going to continue.

I don't know until one of us stops wanting to do this anymore, which shouldn't come anytime soon. I've got podcast news later, but right now we're going to dive in. Reminder every 25 we are on live. And we're thrilled to have you join us. You've just discovered the podcast that even does lives. Well, good to have you. Otherwise, we will continue to do our audio podcast twice a week. But big changes come in this year. We'll talk about that after the 1000. However, it's an all questions podcast. It's the gag that we do when we do these live ones. So we're going to start and dive right in. This is not supposed to be

a non-car question podcast, but we're going to dive in. And here we go. I live when you're right is a thousand and Riley Brian is asking any plans for episode 1000. That will be held at the May 31st June 1st, H PDE at Coda. So we've been talking about this for a little while. And that will be coinciding with our 1000th podcast. It's a very big event. You can see the event details at hookdowndriving.com and that coincides with the recording.

Of the 1000. I'm at the same event 1000 podcasts also just to clarify further about that event. There are stages of that event. Obviously the main part is the track day. Those two days, the live podcast like Paul said Saturday night. All of that is happening. But we are road tripping and road trip filming, making a road trip film from Utah to Austin. Then of course, we'll have the two day tracking event. Then we're going to continue from Austin all the way to Charlotte going up into Arkansas and

coming across the Ozarks and yes, tail of the dragon and all the stuff we haven't done in the southeast. That is going to be a continued road trip with more road trip filming. Yes, you can join us. There's been a lot of questions. Those are on our discord our patrons right now already know this, but the short version is we're going to make a sign up sheet available where if you want to come with us, there's your information and also if you would like to have your car featured. Everybody that asks won't get their car featured.

I want to that's a problem. I'm loving having. We're trying to do two different cars every day of the road trip film making multiple road trip films out of it. We're very excited about that. We're kind of collecting cars right now. We're going to put that out beyond the patrons here shortly. And hopefully people are going to want to travel with us. I don't know what this means. I don't know if this means this is you and me and the two cars being featured at a support vehicle in like one straggler. Or if it means we're going to create traffic everywhere we go. It's like 40 years. I'm hoping it's the latter. Yeah, I do too.

Now it will be a thing where we are obviously going to cover ourselves. And if you guys want to come, they don't have to cover your own hotels and stuff. But this is how we're going to do a crazy adventure headed toward the 1000th and then even after the one that you are going to be gone filming and driving for two weeks straight and that is simultaneously exhausting to think about and really exhilarating. And I'm very excited. My son has already decided. I just thought you should know he's coming for the back half. He said to us with a straight face. We will have turned our computers in on Friday. There's really no work for me to do the next couple days.

So he is he's putting his stake in the ground that he's coming. It's going to be crazy. Yeah, awesome.

Thank you for all the questions. Thank you for all the questions over the years. We would appreciate it. Thank you for your questions on this recording too. You can go ahead and ask him there.

We posted up on social media and our discord. If you want to join the discord, please let us know because the conversations are always ongoing there.

And Jordan just saw Jordan Sheeper. He is without a spec. And he asks if there's anything Porsche theme for nine eight one Jordan.

I could have done episode nine 14 96 987 to not nine five nine all the kians.

Stop that we've got all the kians. Those were in the 50s. We've passed already. And then we got a panoramas. Anyway, we could have. But no, no, nine eight one theme necessarily.

Kind of had to let that die early on in the 900s. That's okay. David M. Hello from Charlotte. Really appreciate you jumping on.

And Ray Lee is asking which LS seven engine cars would we rather have C606 or Gen 5 Camaro Z28. Why are you shopping? Apparently I'm wondering. I would rather have the vet. The C606 is really great to drive. I prefer that car.

That fifth Gen Camaro Z28 is very frantic. It's awesome. Cool. I just never liked the male slot windows. I never really liked the seating position. Corvette really does it for me.

So I agree with you on that. I do think that that Gen 5 mirror. That was one of those cars when it first came out. They were doing huge markups and six months later.

You could get them for underneath sticker. But we actually drove one of the first ones in L.A. Way back when it when it got dropped. And it was it was a world

beater. It was a car that was much better than it should have been. But I do I'm with you. I prefer to be in the C6. See Hypnotode is great. It says greetings from Boston and Chuma the Puma. Hey love. Love it. Really glad you can join us and Daniel G from New York. People from all over.

This is really great. Daniel and is asking me car podcast adjacent. What should he drink with this live airing angels and be finished.

Ride Rumkask. They've been talking double char bourbon or new rift single barrel. I'd say something that keeps you interested and engaged.

Little less relaxation. Little bit more. You know, something that each drink is going to wake you up and keep you going.

So 1993 warbirds. Would we laugh if someone showed up at the Coda event or pilgrimage in a mid 2000s Toyota camera?

Well, first off pilgrimage. Are you are you in Europe? Are you driving your camera over there?

I don't think you're showing up in your camera at pilgrimage, but one of our adventures or or Coda look man bring the car you've got.

If that's the car you've got, one of the things I love the most about hooked on driving.

And I don't say this just because it's a pitch is the fact that run what you're wrong. I have seen all kinds of cars say welcome exactly.

I've seen all kinds of cars that I'm some that go by and I'm like, whoa, I can't believe somebody's driving that it's amazing.

Another one I'm like, you literally were commuting that yesterday. And I'm thrilled you're here. It doesn't matter.

The thing that I find so amazing about anything you drive now on modern tires. And we've talked about this before.

The average stuff is more capable than people realize. Let alone the performance stuff.

So if you've never really driven your camera hard, I think it would shock you, especially with good tires. So I say bring it.

Oh, Aaron Butler just wrote and he said his father-in-law from the episodes of he hates his wife's car and the car conclusion that's associated with it just bought a

GR86 Hakone edition. He said, you did this. I can hear the disdain, the scorn in your voice.

No, he's saying thank us. He's thanking us because I mean, let's think of the other stuff that you could have wound up in.

Look, that's true. The edition is gorgeous. I'm not really a green car guy.

It's amazing. If it means he gets to drive it and has access to it, which probably does.

So he's just going, okay, maybe it's that. Aaron, congratulations and congratulations to your father-in-law.

And go driving, plan a drive. Actually, come on, come on our events this year. Come with us to pilgrimage.

We're so excited for pilgrimage. It's so fun to go back every year and then share the trip with all of you.

You should share what we've learned and what we know. We've really dialed it. It's really good. Come with us.

Just, you know, creek the checkbook open.

It's getting harder and harder, but it is a thing. It's going to do it for sure, yeah.

The Gothird family is asking about we said an EV commuter, EV makes perfect sense as a bumper to bumper commuter.

If we needed to buy that, which would we choose and why?

Okay, we have a test drive of the brand new Model 3 thanks to Jordan coming soon.

It's about a week away as that's his new Model 3. That is a new Model 3.

I mean, look, if we're talking about a commuter drone car, that has to be a consideration.

I don't know that it's the one I would get, but it has to be a consideration.

Because I'm a geek, I think the the Ionic 5N would be on my radar, even though it's really not.

I mean, it's purpose is to be driven for fun, but since it can chill out to be an EV,

I think that's worthwhile. I'm trying to think of the other ones we like.

You know the quiet mode. The the GV60 that is the the Kia, right?

Genesis GV60? Sorry, the Genesis GV60. That one actually I was quite impressed by.

Yeah, that's good luxury car and yet does all of the EV things. That's one of my favorites.

It depends on how down rate grade you want to go because there's a part of me that would do an old

BMW i3, except one of the benefits of the commuter is does it have super smart cruise control,

and I don't know how smart that cruise control is, but I think the i3 is quirky and weird and

may as well have one, especially as a commute car. Why not? Because they're cheap now.

Jeremy Cronin's asking how we feel about a motorbike tagging along for tail of the dragon road trip

leg. He'll be there in two wheels. Does that qualify for one run? What's your brung?

Yes, not at the ring due to their new rule changes, but yeah, absolutely bring it. We'd love to see

there and we'd love to have a variety of vehicles including your bike. So please, Brian,

it would be great to see you. I've got a friend named James Cronin who is the visualization manager

at Scout. So I thought that was James, but it's Jeremy on here. So that's really cool.

Jeremy, thank you. Really appreciate you writing.

Let's see. Shumma is asking our thoughts on BMW discontinuing the ETS series this year for

series on the sunset tour looking to end in 2027. Electric focus seems to be the reason.

Actually, we featured Jordan Sheifer on last episode. Hopefully you heard him. He gave

some great insights about EVs, and he and I were talking after the episode about BMW. You're

comment about BMWs and how they all drive the same because their chassis, their platforms are

designed for both kinds of powertrain. So of course, it makes sense. I will not miss the ETS

series. I've always felt that it's, wow, this is really great for someone, not me. It's great for

somebody. And so I feel like I don't know what their sales numbers were, but it just there's so

much competition in that category. It had to be a real standout, and it was just good.

I'm not really compelled by it. And then the four series, I want it to be

less beaver, teeth-ish. You're just what this is dying to be better. It's actually,

that's actually a car that has a ton of power even in the base model and has a lot of space.

I'm actually a fan of the four series except for that nose.

That new generation that we're seeing all the concepts, everything that we're seeing from BMW,

I actually really like it feels fresh. The new class feels original to me. It feels like

BMW has finally stopped looking around what is everybody else doing and really gone back to what

they know. And it feels like a fresh direction for me. So I understand electrification. Yeah,

I'm hoping they consider hybridization as a mix too because it's never going in one direction

or the other. They need to have a nice product mix. But for BMW, especially since their platforms,

generally speaking, are designed for both. They can get away with it much more easier,

more easily than say a company like Volkswagen.

Oh, by the way, this Sunday is our Volkswagen Tows test drive. It's coming this Sunday. I'm just

talking, you know, it's going to be right here on the test drive channel. We drive the new Tows.

There's a lot of that. That general just kind of deftest sigh exists from my dear friend Paul

during a lot of the same. I am laughing here because the Roper crew writes in that he was literally

taking the third cat off his Amira. We're listening to the podcast where I was ranting about this

and saying, this is stupid. Please don't take the third cat off your Amira. And I stand by it.

Okay, because I can hear that car plenty. Now I know I am the weird guy that I don't like loud exhaust

and maybe people do. And I'm supposedly not a car enthusiast because I don't like loud exhaust.

But I have a loud car. It's called the Elise. And I'm thrilled to see Amira isn't as loud.

It's loud with the stock. You put the stock exhaust back on with the stock exhaust. Yeah, of course

it is. Yes, it was even louder before. But anyway, that whole moon chassis just it's like a tuning

for it. Yes, it is. So I have a loud car. And that's still the stock exhaust. But the thing I like

about the Amira is I can drive it all the time wherever I can make it how or I can make it chill out.

So, you know, if you want to take the third cat off, I get it. But I also don't get it. But I do

think it's funny that that aligned. That's pretty great. All right. We've got track daily crushes

from both the Shiefer guys. Austin Shiefer is Jordan's brother, track daily crush. But for British

car brands, Jaguar Bentley Aston Martin, the direction Jaguar is going is sort of like, please turn

back. What are you doing? Go ahead? You reach the end. Stop. Don't come any further like turn back.

So Jaguar, I'm crushing because if that's the direction they're going, then I'm not a huge fan.

Bentley would probably be the daily because, you know, dayling a Bentley, of course, got to, but

Aston on track. By the way, I'm seeing reports that Aston Martin is bleeding cash, but they

expect next year to be a whole lot better. And then Mazerati just got, they got denied some

investment cash is what I'm seeing. And it's kind of disappointing. And you know, it seems like

everybody is asking, you know, everybody has an opinion. What car brand, you know, what should they

do next? What kind of product portfolio? And I'm really mixed on Mazerati because I want them to stay

around, but it's either throw more money. It's almost good money after bad almost, but they have

good stuff right now. They've got a great V6 with a lot of power and it seems like it's a great

engine. The GT is a beautiful car. It's a cool car. It's just too expensive. That were far less

money. I think Mazerati would be in the minds to sell it, but the problem is by doing that,

it's not a premium brand anymore. And the MC20, as cool as it is, is being held back.

Some of the choices held it back from being truly world-class because at that price point,

it just needs to over-deliver. It needs to be what Nissan GTRs did to the entire world. And it

doesn't nine, 2008, whenever the R35 came back. So I feel like the MC20 needed to do more for its

dollars to be, wow, this is really kind of crazy. I might consider going from my brand to

Mazerati, but it seems like they won't have the development dollars, but right now they're

spread too thin. So Mazerati make one car, one. You want them to be Bugatti.

Correct. Yeah. This is the Mazerati Halo car, baboom, and that's all we're making right now.

Correct. I can see it. I can see it. Yeah. And it's the special Mazerati. At whatever price point

they decided, it doesn't have to be at the Bugatti price point. I understand what you're saying,

but it's got to be exclusive enough price point. It's got to be something that still feels

like a throwdown, yeah. But Mazerati has always been held back by its brand managers from

encroaching on Ferrari. We all know that it's not trying to encroach. It needs to be its own thing.

And so let it be different by making one. I like that. That's cool.

That's really good. Yeah. Make the investment worth it.

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at gryosgarage.com. Colin Cutler says you're asking for a friend, which means you aren't asking for

a friend. Colin, what did you buy? He's asking us, have we ever accidentally purchased a car?

And the answer is no and it's because I don't bid on online auctions. Everyone I know that

bids on an online car auction, what day goes, uh oh, like oops, I know because you do that,

we all do this. You know that thing we're like, well, you know what, I'll throw my hat in the ring.

Anytime any time you turn an auction, it doesn't matter what it's for. Okay, like go to the bake

sale of your kid's school and do an auction for a cake. You're like, ah, that cake doesn't have me

bidding. I'll just bid on it. Looks terrible, but whatever. And then you have to put that cake.

It happens. Seriously, it happens. So my point is this is the problem with online auction

sites for cars. And I feel like I've known so many people that follow the show that have written

in and said, oops, and many of you have written and been like, uh, what do we do? Because I just

accidentally won an auction and I haven't told my spouse. You do that. You know, I'll make a bid.

And then you come back later to go, how do I tell you? Yes, exactly. So I haven't because I stay

off of those sites, but I have done things like buy a $5,000 faten from Florida and fly to Arizona

without a pre-purchase inspection with my dear friend Paul and drive home and a BMW Z4 we just bought.

So, you know, we've had our craziness just not on those sites. Oh, Daniel N says,

should Maserati follow the Chrysler model of just having one vehicle? No?

No, no, you've misinterpreted. No, no. The Chrysler single vehicle exists because I think the brand

was poorly managed and everything else timed out and they decided to stop production and went,

you know what? I just realized we only build one Chrysler vehicle. I think it was sort of like a

revelation. It wasn't planned and they just kind of got to the end and went, oh, now that we

stopped everything else. Yeah, now we're just selling a van. That's it for just a van.

This would be deliberate. It would be planned. They would know that put all the mojo into development

of that one vehicle, not just stop the rest and I think, huh, I guess this is what we're left with.

Rental car agencies, how'd you like to place another big fleet order? Don't you want a lot of

Pacifica? Yeah, can we sell you to all the base models? Ahmed's writing in and saying he'd love

for us to review his 2012 SLS AMG. How do we make it happen? Ahmed, where are you?

Where are you located? Because are you anywhere on our route? It's literally like a V of the country.

Anywhere on our route between Utah and Austin and then Austin and Charlotte. If you're anywhere

on there, that is the way to make it happen because we're going to review a lot of cars this year.

I'm excited to get in a lot of various things. So send us an email every day driver TV at Gmail.

Let's see if we can connect the dots on that because that is a cool one to at least discuss.

I really like that idea. Hyundai policy opinions and do we think the new Hyundai's are reliable.

Carson, there are early, there are small Hyundai engines. I forget which turbo engine that are money

pits, but a lot of the rest of them were good. I like the V6 they make. That typically has been a

pretty good engine. I have heard from plenty of people that Hyundai's and Kia's aren't as

reliable as people want them to be. In spite of the 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty, I've definitely

heard that, but most of the people I know with Hyundai's have had pretty good experiences.

The Hyundai policy is a great vehicle. It's that or the Kia tell you right. Those are sister vehicles.

They're excellent. They've been the winners in that class for a while because they are genuinely

very good. Sorry, I was reading questions. Did we talk about new Sarah Ahmed's C8 Corvette and LC500

yet? I don't think we did. No. New Sarah is fortunate to have driven a C8 Corvette and LC500 yet

found both disappointing compared to a 981 came in GTS. You just want to stop the podcast there,

don't you? Thanks for the question. I'm not sure it's a question. Corvette lacked the polish. LC

was too sanitized. Is he missing something? I don't think you are, but it depends on what you're

looking for. Clearly, neither of those cars are what you're looking for. I think you're looking for

something a lot smaller, a lot lighter, and it doesn't matter where the engine is. For that reason,

I think the came and spoke to you because the C8 is good and we like it, but we like it because

it's such a great all-arounder. It's everything on your list. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. All the way down

your list. It's not the standout. It's not the wow. It's amazing over here. Same with LC.

You've got to be shopping in the right category, the right mindset of what you're looking at.

So if you're bringing like, I want the lightest, most nimble car, of course, neither of those are

going to do it for you. I mean, even the GTS isn't really that. There's even more nimble finer

tune, finer handling cars than that. Actually, I'm going to suggest to you. Look, I like the

Cayman, Paul likes the Cayman. I've driven the LC500 in the right situation and that car's

wonderful. There's a road trip car, a GT car, it's brilliant. The C8 is a do-everything car. I get it.

But if you're looking for more involvement, I like that 981, but I really want to challenge you.

I want you to drive an MX-5. I want you to drive a GR86 or a BRZ and drive the Z4 BMW while

you're at it. And if you really want to go out on a limb, try the Lotus products. Find an

a lease to drive, find an avora to drive. Because if you're looking for involvement, you need to get

more toward the this car isn't made to GT. It's just made to drive for fun and you're going to get

that visceral feeling back. See, 1993 warbirds asking me as a designer. It is bottom as much as it does

warbirds that so many cars have such abrupt trunk lines. It's like the C pillar ends and then

just nothing. I think you're talking about the transition of the C pillar into the upper surface,

the upward facing surface, and where it comes into the body side. That's one of the most difficult

areas on a car to resolve. You've got five or six surfaces all converging at a single point.

Same thing where the A pillar drops to the front fender there. There's many surfaces including

the shoulder theme that you've established, ending right at that point and it's right where your

eye goes. So right where the C pillar intersects with the trunk, there's usually some sort of trunk

opening. And you're right. There's cars that execute this a lot better than others. But sometimes

it's not that designers say screw it, we're done. There's still a lot of demand.

But there is a point where the development costs will exceed what the program development is or

should be and they've got to move on. Now, that's why we see development throughout the car's

life cycle. We see new generations of things. We see slight revisions because as soon as a car comes

out that doesn't mean they've stopped working on it. That just means they've gotten it to market.

That's it. Absolutely true. So yeah, you see some cars that you think that was a pretty abrupt

ending. But sometimes designers have to say, well that's the best that we've got available right

now, project brief. We like that. Sometimes it's a personal opinion and people just like it anyway.

So there's a lot of stuff that goes into that. Craig is asking a question. I'm going to try to

tackle. He said, why do Aston, Jaguar and Maserati lose their value so quickly, but still costs so

much. Two things going on there at once from my perspective. One, they are supposed to be premium

luxury brands. In the same way, it was difficult for Volkswagen to sell a $100,000 faten in the showroom

because Volkswagen is an affordable brand. Imagine Aston Martin sells a $30,000 car.

Signate. But you had to buy a real ass. But the point is nobody's coming in the showroom

for that. So they have to sell them at a certain price point to stay within kind of the strata of

their brand. There's that. But then there's other issues. Those cars haven't had a good reputation and

still don't maintain a good reputation for being Toyota style reliable or inexpensive to fix.

So that's a strike against them. But the biggest strike is those are brands that don't have second

buyers. This is the reason that Porsches maintain their value so well. But look at the Porsches we're

talking about, the Taycan plummets, the Cayenne plummets. Those don't have second buyers. The sports

cars, the Cayman and especially the 911, you buy them and they just hang on to value because there's

all these people waiting in the wings to buy that car. And that's what keeps the value up. Look at

this with Toyota pickups, for example. Everyone on the planet wants to buy a second hand Tacoma or

Tundra. So the prices stay high. Who's shopping for a used Nissan full size pickup? Nobody.

Who's shopping for a Nissan? Well, there is, there is that issue as well. But these are luxury brands

without a second buyer. And the second buyer problem is the reason that the Tacons are on the floor

right now because that dictates the entire thing. All right, we've got more design. Tumah, the Puma

is asking about design and Tumah is trying to learn about cars, chairs, Bauhaus, mid-century modern,

the entire aesthetic. Do I have any recommendations on learning foundational knowledge in this space?

You should definitely investigate Charles and Ray Eames, a couple that really defined the mid-century

look. Actually, the Eames house in Los Angeles, I believe, was untouched by the Palisades fires.

But that was a house entirely designed by them. Everything in it. Fantastic place to visit and

just really shows off their works. But there's a lot of furniture and books that the Eames did and

produced. But you can also look at George Nelson, famous designer. He wrote a book called How to See

in 1977, looked it up here. It is a book to recognize, evaluate and understand objects and

landscape in the man-made world around us. And he designed that book specifically for what you're

asking. And it's, it's timeless because it applies, the principles apply. Just like you can apply,

design knowledge to any object, your eyeglasses, shirts, clothing, cars. The foundation is the same.

Then you're looking at the market and how is the product made and you know, what is the,

what is the market it competes in? All of those things still apply before you even put pen to paper,

or AI to project. AI to prompt. There we go. AI to prompt. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, that's

a great book. And any mid-century modern, there's a lot of great bookstores. I'll send you a list of

great bookstores that produce mid-century modern themes. You know, you can, you can go look at that.

And yeah, there's just so much to learn. It just really makes you appreciate every object and

the effort that goes into it. Nathan Crabtree is saying, with most cars these days, lacking three

pedals because most of them, yeah, why would they need it? Why isn't left foot breaking taught as the

standard? It's a great question. I've actually had this conversation with my wife and with my son

who's actually driving now. He's a permit. It's terrifying. No, it's actually not terrifying. He's

doing really well. It's terrifying for people that have not written in the car with him. That's what's

happened. They're like, wait, he's driving now. We have reached that place. So anyway, the thing is

the instruction hasn't caught up to the reality in the same way that the legislation hasn't caught up

to some of some of stuff that's going on with electric cars. Like, we were in this model three.

Sorry, I keep thinking about it. And we were using the full self-driving and I was realizing

was saying to you guys, I don't feel like the legislation is caught up to the technology with stuff

going on in that car. The reality is everyone is taught to leave that left foot available for

clutch pedals they may never use. But now we're talking about, right? Now we're talking about

completely changing the entire industry in the way the entire industry

is taught to drive or learned to drive. Now I like left foot breaking anytime we go to the ring or

spa or on any track and the car that we have is an auto. I left foot break all day. But the minute I

get one of my own cars on track with three pedals, I don't think about left foot breaking once. I'm

just I'm now using a three pedal car. I like having left foot breaking when it's a really good DCT

or your PDK or something like that. It's very cool. But the average person is just used to this.

And I'll go you one further. Now with EVs, they're used to just one pedal. They don't even remember how

to use the brake. We just sit there wide stance. And this is the only way we move. There's less

involvement. We would have to retrain everybody how to teach driving. And I cannot imagine you and I

have tried to make subtle changes in the way people come to our track days. And in some places there's

been crisis. It's like what you're changing stuff. Can you imagine trying to retrain everybody that

currently drives and everyone new being taught to drive, meaning the trainers have to change the

way they're driving? I can't imagine. But also I want to say outside the US, there are it's more likely

to find manual transmissions as base models. And so we just keep carrying on because why change it,

right? Good questions on here. I must acknowledge the Touse questions. People are just trying to

many. People are just trying to get us comments in general. You see Justin Inman said he's got a neighbor

who bought a house and he thinks if you every time he sees it at the driveway, this is the disease

that's happening. I mean, I'm honored to be associated with that particular special. There's your

legacy. Look at you. Eric P says Towson Towson Towsons. They're big here in the DC area. So many of them,

what I'd rather buy a Touse or the Mitsubishi equivalent. You know, weirdly, I'd rather buy the Touse

just by virtue of the service, the availability of parts and service because Volkswagen is just such

the bigger company. Mitsubishi is sort of like, are you merging? Are you going out of business?

What are you going to do today? We don't know. So I'm even more scared of Mitsubishi even though

that means I admit I'd be stuck with the Touse. And if I had to get the Touse, Jordan says if I had

to pick a Touse Tiguan or Atlas as a rental car for a week, no walking isn't an option. See, Jordan

cut me off the pass there. So I would probably pick an Atlas just because I figured, yeah, it's the

biggest of the worst. It's the largest they could do with the MQB chassis. Like, we did the polo.

Yeah. What's the other end of the spectrum? It would get more, you know, it's bigger and more

lumbering. And so therefore I could give it an excuse. Like, well, of course, it's not good and

doesn't handle well because at least it's bigger. It's the biggest and I have space for people.

For passengers to distract me from how bad the car is. David, which new car is the closest

to a Volkswagen all track? And he hashtags it wagons forever. Ooh, the V60 Volvo with all-wheel drive.

Unfortunately, the all track you probably are thinking six-speed manual and those days are gone.

I'm sorry. The A4 Vaunt Wagon. And maybe it here's a thing. I'm not sure what it was you're looking

for out of the all track that you want to find is something else. Again, if it's a wagon with manual,

I'm sorry, but if it's a all-wheel drive wagon, I hate to say it, but you need to at least drive

the outback. It's not it's not chuckable. The Volkswagen all track was much more interesting to drive.

I get that. I just am trying to figure what you want out of a wagon. I wonder if that V60 might be the answer.

In the time it takes us to say we're using Folger's instant coffee seamlessly blended with water

and ice. A splash of whatever kind of milk is your thing. And gotta get that caramel drizzle.

All to make a toasty, roasty caramel iced coffee. You could be enjoying it. Every

damn sip of it. Damn right. It's Folger's instant. Daniel Adams also asking who we follow for

car content like news, podcast, photography, art, that kind of thing. It's of course a mixed

variety of sources. Probably a lot of the same things you follow. Certainly the dedicated news

sites I do follow, but I also look at financial times. I'm interested in their perspective on the

worldwide industry, the global industry of what manufacturing is because they so often focus on

large companies that shareholders have, you know, it affects big portfolios and that kind of thing.

So I look at it, you know, I'm going to see what manufacturers doing globally because that is

certainly reflective of consumer demand for certain models. So I always like seeing the

manufacturing and what's going on factories. And usually I find out a lot of different interesting

information and you just get a different perspective. So I like the new sites that cover

global interest in the automotive industry even if it might be the boring stuff.

Manufacturing factories, batteries, engines, you know, tires, that kind of thing. And then I,

you know, I find little rabbit trails to go down like, oh, it leads me back to some other

interesting piece of information. But a great source is usually the newsroom of every car company.

They have stopped calling it media sites. They are the newsroom for that car company. And they do

keep those updated because they have sponsorships, new partnerships that they're doing, new events

they're sponsoring, usually golf. But Porsche's newsroom is always interesting because of the

athletes that they feature or some new collab or some new interesting thing they've tackled. The

Porsche cars have conquered some giant mountain or something again. So there's a lot of, you know,

cool interesting information. But BMW does a great job. Mercedes actually does a great job too.

I like the Japanese car companies to keep, you know, more stuff on their new sites because sometimes

it just feels a little thin, but again, variety of options, but kind of everywhere.

Carson is saying, what's better in the snow? A 2024 Audi A6 Allroad, that's a cool wagon,

or a 2011 Nissan Pathfinder. And I have to ask the follow-up question, Carson, and you haven't been

clear, who's on better tires? Yeah. That's really the answer. However, I will try to answer that

further. I prefer lower smaller cars in the snow than the big stuff. I just do. So in that regard,

I pick the A6. The Pathfinder would be bigger and sit higher. If one of you was crying out,

but what if there's two feet of on track snow? All right, now you maybe you want some ground clearance.

But I like the lower center of gravity stuff that's smaller. I always prefer that in the snow. But

it's going to come down to what's on the better tires. Let's see, Chris Ostman. Hello, Chris.

If Nissan goes away, what car do central buyers move to? Not the Jetta?

The Civic. Go to the Civic. There's varieties of Civic. Yeah. You can get it fairly cheap.

You can get them inexpensive. You can get them fully loaded. A lot of fun. But yeah, definitely Civic.

Kia K4, bottom of the Kia mark. We recently had that. That's a contender as well. Yeah. That's

a large car. I'm trying to think if there's anybody else in that space that's worth pitching.

I mean, you could buy a base model three. I mean, Mazda three, sorry, but it's probably still

going to crest 30 grand. I'm trying to think of things you can get under 30. Mazda three, you mean?

Yeah, Mazda three. And then you know what? Subaru cross tracks. You can get those under 30 if

I'm not mistaken. So just brace yourself just deep breath. I'm going to buy Subaru now. King

cars. Question, what's the best way to do drive homework for cars that dealers are overly precious

with and aren't readily available on places like Turro? My question for you, King cars is where

are you located? Because we've talked about this before. I know this sounds crazy, but I am all

for a test driving travel vacation. Places like LA, Vegas, sometimes in Scottsdale, like Arizona,

that kind of stuff, you can find, but mainly major tourists, that's why I say LA and Vegas,

everything you can think of is on Turro. Somebody just bought the first of whatever sports car

last week and it's already on Turro. So if you have a place that you can take an actual vacation

and then Turro as well, I think that is definitely worth it, especially if you're making one of those

purchases, like the mirror was for me where it's like, I can't believe I'm about to make a purchase

at this level. Maybe that vacation is worth it. Otherwise, you've got to dig around your local cars

and coffee and tell people that you're serious and want to drive their car. That can get a bit

sketchy, but that's the only other way. Okay, on our list here, it says, assuming you actually

diligently follow maintenance schedules, are the running costs of German cars still noticeably higher?

You could make that argument and I will say, for this question, yes, I'll say yes, but not always,

because over following it might give you a little bit better insurance against something

happening, just being a little bit more diligent rather than waiting for your coffee maker to be

asked to be cleaned. Maybe do it in advance. A little sooner. I don't even have any idea what

you're talking about, but I've just got to sit over here. It's whatever your account thing,

instead of waiting for the device to tell you that it needs service, which is a baseline thing,

overdo it. Do it a little bit better, a little bit more, because you can always see those cars

that we say, wow, it's really clean, really well maintained. Well, it's not just the owner doing

scheduled interval services. They've actually gone above and beyond. So I would say, take the extra

mile to really be on top of stuff, but it's not every car. I mean, cayens, you've really stuck to

not an over maintained schedule. I feel like. No, I've maintained it on schedule. They've been great.

Here's the flip side. I believe that I came in to say cayens, cayens. I knew which meant.

And so did everybody else, because all we do, apparently, is buy black cayens in my family.

Anyway, the here's the thing. The thing you have to know about the joke is the Porsche

Tax, and it is a real thing. Often the German brands getting the parts and the labor done is

20, 25% more expensive than if you did the exact same labor on a Japanese Korean or American car.

So I believe in most cases that maintaining them are key, but at the same time,

you're probably going to spend a little bit more for that maintenance. I know that has definitely

been the case with the cayens for us. They have it brought surprises. We hit the maintenance

intervals, but those maintenance intervals are pricey. Did you answer Bella's question about

letterbox? I did not. Boxed. I think you should. Look, Bella is asking. There's been whiskey and

design questions. So a question to you, Todd, a film adjacent question, are you on letterboxed?

We are not. That is a competitor kind of to IMDB, and we are not on there. To my knowledge,

unless somebody's put us on there. Daniel is asking about how do we tackle speed bumps and

non-perfect roads in our low cars? Do we just learn the hard way? What obstacles they can and can't

take? Daniel, I've been on both sides of this equation. The reality is, and Paul's much better

at this than I am, but the reality is when you're driving these small cars, you're just doing

this constantly, just avoiding the potholes. You're looking way out front, you're seeing the holes,

and you're just constantly avoiding them, whereas something like a cayenne, it's just like,

oh, that was a pothole, wasn't it? So you have to be looking way out front and avoiding,

but then invariably, something sneaks up on you. It's happening to me in the at least. It's

happening to me in the amera. Something sneaks up, and you have that terrible, full suspension,

travel clunk. That's when I'm going to have a little bit of meat on the tires so they don't

instantly blow invariably. It will happen, and I hate it, but it's a lot of looking out and

being proactive in the lane. The at least is so small. You can be really proactive in the lane,

but most sports cars, you've got enough of a lane that you can avoid the obvious track.

It's cool. I'm going to jump to Instagram. I didn't want to miss this question from 41 to 26,

who has a 1978 Dots and 280Z building out as a track rat. What engine should go into it?

Three choices. Duel over head cam, L31, so that's a V8 RB26. That's a Nissan straight six and an LS V8.

So two V8s and a straight six. I mean, 280Z, I feel like a straight six would do it.

It feels like the right thing, doesn't it? Yeah. Design wise, and I think, I mean,

Nissan Dots and Nissan engine in your Dots and I think really goes together. I like the Nissan

engine. I'm going to go back to that question about car content. I watch a little bit of anybody

you can think of reviews, anybody that is kind of a known commodity on YouTube. I don't watch all

of anybody's work, but I kind of pick and choose, and just I'm always curious what various channels

are doing. And so some of my friends, some of my people, we've only watched their content from

afar, but I just will drop in to just about any creator you can think of and watch various

pieces. And I am the geek that if I sit down to watch it, I watch the entire thing. It's just how

I'm wired. So I do that. I listed occasionally in a Matt Ferris podcast because he's a friend,

so I listen to him now. And then his podcast is the opposite of ours. So it's one of the reasons

I like being on there. But I also like listening to his podcast now. And then because he gets some killer

guests, we've never been a guest podcast. Matt gets everybody in the car world like when Gordon Murray

was on there and that kind of stuff is like, I'm listening to that crazy stuff. So I do chase that kind

of stuff too. Roger Zang jumping in. Hey, thank you for joining. I really appreciate it. Love to see

you on here. And let's see HD shadow star asking if we will ever see physical checks on our cars

again, physical dip sticks, windshield washer food. Well, yeah, transmission dip sticks. It seems

like doing your own maintenance is getting difficult. And yes, it's it's ease of assembly and ease

of digitization. It connects as part of the ECU. It's all part of the wiring harness. And it's just

easy to install the thing with the sensor. Cheap, easy. It's not yet another thing that needs to

be manufactured. Sensors are cheap, easy with the tank of the windshield wiper fluid or whatever it

is. It's so much easier from a manufacturing standpoint. So to develop, you know, the stamping and,

you know, make the actual part. And it's an extra skew now and all that kind of stuff. You can see

where manufacturers are wanting to gravitate towards. So I think only in rest of mods, I think only in,

you know, it's got to be really deliberate. But just imagine if a car company came out with all

of those things, a key, wow, actual key and give you a key, I think it would be popular initially

and maybe there'd be some runway for it. But people like their convenience were just used to

our computers and our phones and just touch a touch a button, touch an app. I'll tell you something

that I don't want a physical thing anymore. I'll tell you something that never seems to surprise

me. The Amira that I have, and we talked about this just this week, you does not have the doors you

walk up to with the fog in your pocket and you can just open them. You have to unlock it with the

fog. And while, look, while I don't mind, I'm not a person, you know, doors have never

scarred me in life. I don't mind opening a door. I don't mind having a key. I do think it's

interesting that in the modern time, there is a car that I can't just walk up to and pull the handle.

I have to unlock it first, which is kind of interesting. There's a lot of really funny comments,

quick, quick, funny comment here, gothard family says, if your kids no longer fit in the back seat

of your 86, do you seek out a good adoption agency? That is, that is love for the 86, it goes beyond

us. I really do like that. Also, Asa writes in and says he was in Florida today on the straightest

road he's ever seen and at least drove by. Is this a waste of a good chassis? Yes, it's a waste of

a good chassis. However, I will say this, here's my flip side. The Elise is an interesting little beast

in one way besides driving. It pulls off something that the Miata and the 86 and others don't and

that is it gives the impression of exotic car ownership. And Florida is a show off culture for cars,

especially if you're anywhere near Miami, where they're not driving those cars well, they don't,

I mean, they're driving them around down. It's like Monaco. Like, I'm telling you right now,

Monaco is the worst place in the world to drive, worst place ever. It's just a giant cruise. But

yet you see these cars that are fantastic to drive in Monaco. Miami has that vibe a little bit.

If you don't have exotic car money, you can kind of hang if you pull up in an Elise. I can imagine

somebody in Florida buying an Elise that's really pristine and getting away with the vibe well

enough, the show off well enough, even if they've never experienced why that car is awesome. So

any of that's my guess. That's funny. DP asks if there's any plans to revisit the E92 M3 versus

1M video from 2011. It's what got DP hooked on our channel and DP still has the 1M. He's got his

1M. Oh, that's such good cars. I mean, that was kind of a moment in time, I think for us too. And

unless it's part of a larger film, I don't know that it's necessary to revisit that particular

comparison, but I could see it maybe those cars as a longer, larger thing. We're always talking

about ideas. Hopefully you guys saw the price of fun from now of two years ago. It's been a little

while. So we're talking about ideas similar to that, where it's a larger car comparison, even though

they're hard to pull off because it's hard to find the right version of the car that we need. Because

in those kinds of comparisons, it's really got to be the right car. It can't just be something close

to it. We wanted the M3, but we're settled for two. It's got to be the exact thing. And it has

to have a premise, I hate to say this, that people are going to watch because a lot of the old car

comparisons just because it's an old car. We discovered this with the 300ZX and the 928.

There were there were three kinds of people that watched that content. Those of you thank you

that watch everything we do, which is a small percentage of our audience, but thank you for being

out there. People that love the 300ZX, people that love the 928. And the rest of YouTube doesn't

even know we posted that stuff. Okay. They have no idea. They just flipped right by it. We had a

great time. We had a great time. So we, we have to kind of figure out, essentially when we do

those comparison, you see them here, what is the new car that people can catch on that makes them

watch the older cars as well? That's always a question. Collaboration 6, how are you man? Says,

is bear tooth this trip right here happening this year? Yes, it is. It's going to happen mid-September.

The mileage on it is a little bit more than the Utah adventure because it is, it's two days of

driving to get to bear tooth, a day of driving bear tooth, and then everybody scatters from there,

but it is a phenomenal trip that is an open for registration yet, but it is coming. Also pilgrimage

is happening again this year. That is the end of April beginning of May. You can go to our website

right now everydaydriver.com, the adventures tab. There's still a couple spaces left for this

year's pilgrimage. We'd love to have you with us. If you'd like to go bigger than that, that's where

the hooked on driving trip comes in. And that's in right after July 4th, the 5th through the 11th,

that is the ring, Zandvort and Amsterdam and Spa in one trip. I still can't believe we're doing

that, but I'm very excited. Nobody else on the planet, including our friends at RSR, we're like,

oh, that sounds like a cool trip. They hadn't even really put it together. We were like,

couldn't you guys do all that? That sounds really great. So that's going to be a very special trip.

That one may never come again actually because it's been hard to put together, but bear tooth is

going to happen and we'd love to have you. Farjad, asking what we think about the upcoming Honda

Prelude and rumor joint operation of Mazda and Toyota for the next sports car. Boy, Mazda

collaborates with everybody. I mean, that was did that in the 90s and Toyota collaborates with

everybody. But you know what? Both companies have proven to be successful when they collaborate.

So if it's them, yeah, I welcome that because both of those companies think small. They think small

lightweight fun cars. Toyota certainly does. Mazda does. So if that's what will give us a next

generation, if they have to pull funds to pull it off, we should all thank them and buy their products

because I think they're the only ones thinking that way in the industry. Everyone else, I mean,

there's a lot of vehicles available in Europe and around the world that we don't get in North

America and the US. But for that focused drivers thinking, that's how those companies think. That's

how they approach their project. So I say that's a great thing. And regarding the Prelude,

I feel like it's sanitized from the concept. I feel like Honda's already looking at it like

it just needs to be a little gas saver, electric hybrid, whatever it is. And it's just going to be

this, you know, a little lightweight thing. If they had come out with the Type R Prelude, be

winged. I don't care. Whatever would be cool if they will start and then say, oh, well,

we'll make economy versions of it. But look at this thing. They would have generated much more

excitement instead of us waiting for, oh my gosh, when is the Type R version of this thing coming

and, you know, it needs to be much better than that it would suggest. I think they should have started

with the coolness because that gets people excited. And then I can't afford that one. So I'll buy

the one down from that that I can't afford and screw a piece of siding to it and make my own or

something. You know what I mean? So it's just a piece of siding a wave of great car. That's really

what's going to happen. Yeah. Oh my god. Your wing is upside down. I actually lifts the back

into the car off the ground when you, well, but it's a front wheel drive cars that helps get more

grip in the front. That's what we're doing. We're going to get to get the weight up front. Anyway,

Quancho, Quancho, as hey, both of us, he's asking if my son since he's driving is going to attend

HPDE events and drive with hooked on driving. Yes, I hope so. That is my intention. Now we do have a

policy. I'm going to policy now. But anyway, we do have a policy where you have to be a licensed

driver to get on track with us. So he can't do it yet. But I would love, I can think of a couple

coaches right now. I'd love to put him in a car with because I want to get him up to a certain

place and then I want to put him in a car with somebody else and be like, that's a great coach. Let

them get you around. I would love that. I'm very excited about it. We really pride ourselves

with hooked on driving to be a place where you've never driven on track before come get with our

instructors and be with us because that's the thing we're really focused on. And yes, I am wearing

a Lotus Amira shirt. You called it out and I have to say, of course, I am. Yes, I am.

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Crown and Port Chicago Illinois. See Ben H asking what were our first new cars that we bought was at

the spec that we wanted. I'm pretty sure it was that 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I got it when I

moved to Utah. Oh sure. And yes, it was the spec that I wanted. It was fully loaded and I just thought,

you know, Jeep love. I wanted a Jeep moving back to the mountains and it was it was great

up until it wasn't because the UConnect system just went black. It wasn't a blue screen. It just

died. And then the steering rack unbeknownst to me just leaked, but it filled the boot. The entire

thing with the hydraulic fluid. So it never leaked. It just didn't operate and all the fluid was out in

the in the bellows. What are my very favorite parts of that car? When you took it in for service,

they were like, well, there's no fluid leak. And then they discovered the lake hiding in the car.

All in the bellows of the thing. So it just I decided, you know what? I don't think it wasn't

still anti set that point of still FCA, but it was I always made the joke. It was I think Mercedes

ML chassis designed in Detroit owned by the Italians and built in Mexico, I think. I don't

I don't know why anything went wrong. And what's going on there? Daniel's asking, what cars

it we've always liked, but others in our life think is stupid or ugly. Let's start the list here.

Let's see. The Asusu via cross. I just harbor unnecessary interest for that one exists for sure.

I like the BMW i3. So does my son, my wife thinks they're ugly. And this has been something that

has come up many, many times before. And that is I really like the Fiesta ST in the orange or the

really bright hyper green. And anytime I've mentioned it, my wife has gone, how is that a good car?

She just can't get her head around it. But I just think they're great. Color matters. It really

gives you perception of cars. Ralph C, thank you for asking your questions. Ralph, really appreciate it.

Really appreciate your involvement. And do we think that both American and Japanese car company

designs have been influenced by European car makers? Absolutely. And vice versa. I mean, the 928

was certainly influenced by the C4 Corvette back and forth. All the car companies are always looking

at what everybody else is doing. But it's refreshing when it seems like they're not like BMW for the

new class. And Hyundai with their, their look, they've just really, they've developed their own

style. Some of it's interesting. Some of it's too far. But for the most part, excellent. So I think

they're, they're always looking at what other companies are doing and trying to get to a signature

look. And hopefully, away from just the same proportions, dealers, hood, a shoulder line,

some wheel arches, painted silver, powertrain. And it comes with all the same safety gear. And

the same warranty as everyone else. And put the same badge on it. And it's just had like

technology. So I'm really hoping that future car design, you really start to do not polarizing

things. But I think thinking that this isn't going to be for everyone on the market. And that will

stand out. The problem is sometimes it manifests itself in the form of beaver teeth. It happens.

But it can reveal fruit. Austin is saying, if we didn't do a podcast or YouTube for a career,

would we own the same cars we do now? And if not, what would they be? Austin, I had this thought

recently while driving the Amara, I thought there is, there is nothing in the trajectory of my life

that would have ever, ever led me to buying that car. Would have taken the risk. I wouldn't have

tried to afford it. Granted, I still can't afford it. The show bought it. Thank God. But I do think

at some point I would have tried to figure out how to get into an Elise because that was a car

that was under my skin really early on in my adult life. And I wanted one ever since they came

out new. I think whatever my trajectory had been, I probably would have chased an Elise. But I

think about the stuff I owned up to that. I don't think I would have owned any of that. And the stuff

I owned around the Elise, probably none of that. But the Amara, no way would have never happened.

RedRap asks if we've ever tinkered with the idea of fun, reliable and affordable cars at a

$5,000 or $10,000 price point. You've seen a few of our best car for $5,000 videos, but the Z4

parts or maintenance things like that are questionable. Hopefully you've seen our $8,000 sports car

challenge from three, four years ago, somewhere in there. But we are looking at doing revisiting

something like that. We actually are. And it's not always easy. You'd think it'd be easy to find

those cars, but to find the car that represents exactly the price point. We can't say, you know,

we can't always buy all of them, but we always can't say we found the nicest version. But that one

wouldn't be 15. A worse one would, but it's a representative. You know, it needs to be from that

actual price category to really evaluate it. When we did our $8,000 car thing, it was literally

the morning we did that. There were pages of each of those cars on auto tempest at $8,000 or below.

It wasn't like there was one and so it worked. We're always really cautious of that. We're

going to get in the right price point. We're trying to do those again, but again, they are

heard to put together, but it is on our mind. Here's an adventure idea from Daniel. What about a

cruise to Bucky's? Done. It'll probably happen. Where do I sign? Here's the thing. I fully expect

while we are in Austin, for Coda, there will be various offshoot trips of people going to Bucky's.

There's a Bucky's like 15, 20 minutes from there. I'm sure it's going to happen. Just load. I can't

claim it's us doing it, but I'm sure there will be Bucky's trips. Little side notes. There you go.

Am I out of gas again? We need to take a little trip. Let's see. Half of Florida is show off

country and the other half of Florida is Southern Alabama. Matt, that's funny. I enjoyed reading

that. That's very funny. That's funny. X2 Coug asking why the Nissan Z has not taken off.

X2 Coug has only ever seen one on the road. I feel like it's because Nissan

treated that car like they treat every one of their other models and it wasn't good enough for

Z enthusiasts. The new frontier, make a slight revision. Mostly it's the same underneath. We tweak

the rear shocks and springs a little bit. Rides pretty good, new body, bobs your uncle. But they

did that to every single one of those cars I think it never to save money, which from a business

decision is good. But not with the Z car, not with the beloved Z. They didn't go far enough.

It's too related to the old one. It can't just be a re-scan or refresh. It has to bring

something new to the table. Although I think we appreciate the recipe that it was,

a lot of power, manual transmission, GT car, kind of good at everything. I don't feel like Nissan pushed

hard enough on bringing something really special to market. There's those of you who have

owned one and moved on from them already, I feel like. It was good for a while. We appreciate it,

but it wasn't enough to make a lasting impression and therefore lasting ownership. I don't feel like.

Daniel's just throwing down. Daniel's rapid firing at the questions. We have slow mode on,

too. He's got some good ones here, but he's tapping into me. He said, what car would we say

embodies the SR-71 Blackbird? We should take a trip to see the one we have in Michigan. I've

actually seen the Blackbird various places. That's not bad. A vector. Vector is up there. The problem

is I wish the vector were more successful. That's the only issue I have with using the vector because

the SR-71 Blackbird was a throw-down car. It was wildly successful for what it was. As long as the

car leaks fuel while it's stationary. I'm like, yeah, really. Tell it gets warped up. It keeps

leaking fuel like a sim. Speed, the panels. These are SR-71 Blackbird jokes, folks. That's how deep

we are right now. That's really crazy. That's very funny. Well, maybe an hour is flown. We're almost

there. Crazy. Asusus Storms. I remember the Asusus Storm. Totally. Yes. I remember the Geostorm.

Holy cow. I thought that was so cool and then come to find out years later. It was not as cool.

BJJ says he's seen our original NSX video of the first, the NA1 versus the NA2. I mean, there was

that revision in 95, 96 somewhere in there from correctly. And they went from five speed to six speed.

There was an engine jump in there as well. I'm getting myself a little bit confused because it's

been a while. But he's saying is it worth trading up to the NA2 if he hasn't NA1? I don't think so.

I really don't. I think the problem is now those cars are so in demand and they're worth so much.

If you have one you know and like, I say just keep it. The originals were all analog steering.

Here's the thing. I remember this conclusion. I don't remember why. I remember I preferred the five

speed to the six and I think it was because of the ratios in two three. I remember feeling like the

six. I didn't enjoy the gearbox as much as I did the five and I enjoyed the six gearbox a lot. I

remember being surprised by how much I like the five speed. I think if you've gotten original,

keep it man. That sounds like an amazing car. I feel like I eviscerate car companies a lot

because Chris O is saying he feels like we should have a moment of silence for canoe shutting down.

So there's Nissan, VW, canoe. No. With canoe shutting down, the void should be filled with mockery.

Yes. Not silence. We're not lamenting the fact that canoe shut down. We are happy. We are glad

because that void needs to be filled with something compelling and interesting and better and not

just redefining you know what I mean. I feel like car companies these days have gotten too much

business overshadowing why people love cars. I think that's prevented sales because I feel like

I'm seeing it across the board. Audience, I don't know what news you read. I don't know what you see

from Maserati not getting the investment they needed. Aston Luxury brand with a lot of wealthy

customers, not meeting their sales goals. Stellantis, not sure what to do next. They're floundering

it seems like the ID buzz already has practically cash on the nonhood to combine it. Cash before

the logo just dropped off the ground. There you go. Something that's very funny. You know, what are

car companies missing that will pull money out of consumers' wallets where it's so compelling?

It drives greater. It's just so amazing. Jordan and I were actually talking about the buzz lately.

He's seen more. I still have not seen one on the road. Apparently, he sees a ton of them.

I think it's okay. I think it's just our area is sponsored by Rivian. There are more

Rivians here than any other place I've been. I've seen even more of them. It's green one has one now.

Yes. We go to LA. We go to Denver. I don't see nearly as many Rivians as we do here. They're practically

handing them out versus we don't see the ID buzz, which I bet you was also selling in LA.

Is it niche vehicles? BMW has got it right. I feel like there's got to be something compelling

and car manufacturers have an even harder job to make products that make money. I feel like.

Nathaniel's asking the question. We keep teasing. I'm going to touch on it here and he says,

we keep hearing about podcast changes should be be worried. Look, I'm going to spell it out right now.

I'm going to tell you the whole story just so you guys know. I have struggled for the last

couple of years because you all have always made the joke. A podcast is named after a piece of

technology that no longer exists. It's named after the iPod, which doesn't exist anymore. It was

the size of the camera space on the back of your. Yes. So the podcast is already named after a

defunct technology. That's already funny. I came out of radio back in college. I did radio. So I

think in a radio audio medium. It is different than a visual medium. I love being a filmmaker,

but audio, straight stuff and video stuff is different. Listen to, I'm going to go way back.

The original Orson Wells were the world's radio broadcast. Find it somewhere and listen to it.

Just sit somewhere where all you're doing is listening. It's amazing how much it sells it.

But if you zoom out and give it any modern perspective, like how did people fall for this?

But it freaked people out. Audio storytelling is a thing. This is an audio medium.

However, I'm aware of the fact that in the last two or three years, the entire industry has moved

to podcasts or video. So now we have audio media. Now we have an audio medium based on a defunct

technology that requires video. My brain hurts. I am confused. The other thing that bothers me

about video podcasts is very often they stop being friendly to the listener because you have to see

what they're talking about. And I've been very reluctant. However, I am aware of the fact that at

this point, anyone that talks about a podcast is looking to watch it, even if they're putting it on

in the background and mostly listening. So starting at podcast 1000, every one of our podcasts will

have a video element. We are probably going to where we're intending to go to one a week. They will

be longer, but they will have video. They will not be live, but they will have video that will be

multi-cam. This studio will change. The next time you see it will be after it will be hotcast

1000 one because 1000 will be at Coda. And that will hopefully be live. But 1000 one and on

will short break. Exactly. Because we'll be exhausted. We're going to be we're still going to be

driving to tail on the dragon. When 1000 was we're still driving. We're going to go home yet.

Yeah, exactly. So we're going to do a video podcast as well. We'll have the ability to show you

what's on screen so we can do things like we've wanted to do car configurator discussions forever.

That needs a visual reference. We're going to do everything we can to keep it friendly to those

of you that are just listening because that's very important to me. But we know that the industry has

left us and we know that places like YouTube and other places are pushing podcasts a lot. So we want

to be available to as many people as possible. So the other change happening is we will now be posting

our podcasts as video. They will come out once a week and they will be posted on our original

everyday driver channel going forward. That's all the changes. We're not stopping the podcast. There's

nothing, you know, like done, done. There's nothing like that. It's just we realized, you know what?

If we're going to do this video shift, where's a good break? 1000 feels like the right break. So this

yeah, last time for this studio, little sad, but it'll be a whole new thing. That's what's going on.

Guys, we sure appreciate your questions. Look, they're still following it. They're flying in for sure.

We really appreciate your engagement, your involvement. But with this change to video,

we feel like it's an opportunity for even more involvement because we'll still post up for

questions. We want you to see, you know, what we're thinking of, what we're talking about, you know,

we can switch to something we've found on the internet and show it off. So I think there will be

even more engagement and we really look at it as, you know, new fresh change for the best and for

the future too. And apparently podcasts or video, that's, that's what I'm being told.

Technology based on a product that doesn't exist. Yes, always audio and now, well, so

that's the direction we're going. We're very excited about it. We are. Thank you for your support.

But of course, there will always be an opportunity to ask these kinds of questions and have this

engagement. Which we appreciate. To, to that point, here's the thing I want you to know, we will still

do a live podcast every 25. But generally, it'll be a in studio podcast and the audio and video

will drop all at the same time and all the places you used to plus some places you haven't seen

and are ready because there'll be a video element. There's a lot going on, lots for us to do in the

next 25 podcasts, but that's what's happening. Got any last questions to, to address here before

we sign off? Rad ref says maybe YouTube will give us a small kickback. YouTube gives nobody kickbacks.

I mean, it'd be nice if we make some money off the YouTube post because of actual ads, that'd be nice.

But YouTube's not incentivizing anybody beyond, oh, you're going to make so much money. Have you heard?

Just start a YouTube channel. The number of people now, sorry, I'm ranting, that are like, I should

start a podcast. I thought we were behind. We started in 2014. We started. I thought we were behind

the eight ball. And then it COVID hit and we were all sitting at home, but everybody's like, I should

start a podcast. And then post COVID, everybody's like, I should film it to what we won't do last

part of my rant. We're not going to just do a zoom call released to YouTube. That bugs me at that

point, just be audio. It's got to be good audio. Anyway, I'm ranting and I'm stopping my ranting.

Good exhale. Serenity now, guys. Thank you for following, for watching a last reminder for

Coda. For this podcast, we'll keep reminding you, but we want to see you there. May 31st, June

1st, 2025, a big cars and coffee there. Of course, two days on track. And that is where the 1,000th

episode of this podcast is happening. We would love to see you there. Make plans for that. It's the weekend

after Memorial Day weekend. So if you've already got plans, no worries. It's the weekend after.

And then of course, all of our overseas, the pilgrimage adventure for everyday driver and the HOD,

European adventure. That's a special one. You're right. I don't here to hope it happens again,

but I'm not sure it will, because Zandborg's dropping off the F1 calendar. And again, R.S.R.

just happened to have three lined up within a week. And I was like, hey, could we maybe do this?

And they were like, that sounds really cool. So even they were excited. Nobody else is offering that.

That's going to be a really fun one. Until next time, really appreciate it. Cheers everyone.

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