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982: Influential Car Movies, German Compound Words, Refresh The Corvette
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About this episode
Exploring the intersection of automotive culture and cinema, this episode dives into influential car movies, the quirks of German compound words, and the latest updates on the Corvette. The hosts engage with listeners through a lively Q&A, discussing everything from their favorite car magazines to unique movie concepts involving Muppets. With a mix of humor and insightful commentary, they also touch on personal stories, upcoming events, and the importance of community within the automotive space.
Cars:
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Ranger
Genesis GV60
Honda Fit EV
Porsche 911
Porsche 928
Porsche 944
Toyota GR 86
Toyota GT 86
Volkswagen XL1
For Topic Tuesday the guys discuss movies, commercials and short films that influenced their love for cars. Shane in D.C. asks about first cars for his teenage daughter, whom he thinks should drive a manual. Social media questions ask how you get used to the lack of gauge cowl in modern cars, are semi truck + trailers considered FWD or RWD, and is it time for the C8 be refreshed?
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Car
Toyota GR86
"...we just released today's video on our main YouTube channel which is a comparison of the GR86 but we also brought with us a very highly tuned GT86..."
The Toyota GR86 is a small sports car that is fun to drive. It's made for people who enjoy driving and want a car that handles well on the road.
The Toyota GR86 is a lightweight sports coupe known for its agile handling and rear-wheel-drive layout. It's designed for driving enthusiasts and offers a fun driving experience with a focus on performance.
Car
Toyota GT86
"...but we also brought with us a very highly tuned GT86..."
The Toyota GT86 is an earlier version of the GR86, also a small sports car that is designed for fun driving. It has a similar look and feel to the GR86.
The Toyota GT86 is a predecessor to the GR86 and shares similar characteristics, focusing on lightweight design and sporty performance. It has been popular among car enthusiasts for its engaging driving dynamics.
Car
Porsche 944
"the first generation and a Porche 944 Turbo S you had no fun at all was no fun"
The Porsche 944 Turbo S is a sports car that has a turbocharged engine, which means it gets extra power from a turbocharger. It's known for being fun to drive and has a sporty design.
The Porsche 944 Turbo S is a high-performance variant of the Porsche 944, known for its turbocharged engine and sporty handling. It was produced in the late 1980s and early 1990s, offering a blend of performance and everyday usability.
Car
Porsche 911 Turbo S
"the first generation and a Porche 944 Turbo S you had no fun at all was no fun at all just rele..."
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a really fast and fancy sports car that a lot of people dream about. It's designed to be super fun to drive and looks great, making it a popular choice for those who love cars.
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is a high-performance sports car known for its incredible speed and handling. It represents the pinnacle of the 911 lineup, combining luxury with cutting-edge technology and engineering, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
Car
Porsche 928
"...you say that as the owner of an old 928 well got time worn it and it's just got back from the shop tonight"
The Porsche 928 is a sporty car made by Porsche that was popular in the late 70s to mid-90s. It has a powerful engine and is designed for both speed and comfort.
The Porsche 928 is a luxury sports car produced by Porsche from 1978 to 1995. It was known for its unique design and powerful V8 engine, blending performance with comfort.
Concept
Motor Trend
"for Daniel it was Motor Trend in his childhood Barber Shop it was pretty much the usual usual suspects"
Motor Trend is a popular magazine that talks about cars. It features reviews, news, and articles about different vehicles, making it a go-to source for car enthusiasts.
Motor Trend is a well-known automotive magazine that covers car reviews, news, and features. It has been a staple in the automotive community for decades, providing insights into new models and industry trends.
Concept
Road and Track
"it was certainly Motor Trend Road and Track I still have a lot of those"
Road and Track is a magazine that specializes in sports cars and racing. It features articles and reviews about fast cars and motorsport events, appealing to car lovers.
Road and Track is another prominent automotive magazine that focuses on sports cars, performance vehicles, and motorsports. It provides in-depth reviews and coverage of automotive events.
Car
Ford Ranger
"...in the tutor the tutor black Bay 41 and the tutor Ranger I am partial to tutor I'm wearing a"
The Ford Ranger is a smaller truck that you can use for carrying things or going off-road. It's known for being tough and reliable, which makes it a good choice for people who need a vehicle for both work and fun.
The Ford Ranger is a compact pickup truck that has been popular for its versatility and capability. Known for its rugged design and off-road prowess, it appeals to both work and leisure users, making it a significant player in the midsize truck segment.
Car
Volkswagen XL1
"...lly labeled as an extra podcast I think it's like XL1 or something or X1 that talks about the inception..."
The Volkswagen XL1 is a special car that uses very little fuel and is designed to be super efficient. It's different from most cars because it focuses on being environmentally friendly while still being able to drive.
The Volkswagen XL1 is a unique plug-in hybrid vehicle known for its extreme fuel efficiency and aerodynamic design. With a focus on sustainability, it represents Volkswagen's efforts to innovate in the realm of eco-friendly transportation.
Car
Honda Fit
"...Jessica just got a Honda Fit last month and has missed driving a stick shift so much..."
The Honda Fit is a small car that is great for city driving and has a lot of room inside for passengers and cargo. It's known for being easy to drive and economical.
The Honda Fit is a subcompact car known for its practicality, fuel efficiency, and versatile interior space. It's popular among drivers looking for an affordable and reliable vehicle.
Term
turbocharged
"he had a turbocharged 206 in the mountains in Colorado and then that left his life and he did other things and"
Turbocharging helps engines produce more power by pushing extra air into them. This means the engine can burn more fuel and go faster without needing to be bigger.
Turbocharging is a technology used to increase an engine's efficiency and power output by forcing more air into the combustion chamber. This allows for more fuel to be burned, resulting in greater performance without significantly increasing engine size.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
"...the first Corvette you know Rockets are the theme yeah we set a rocket into space must be on the card out fins on the tail for sure..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a well-known American sports car that has been around for many years. It's famous for being fast and having a unique design.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car that has been in production since 1953. It is known for its performance, distinctive styling, and American sports car heritage.
Concept
scale ratios
"I love getting that stuff and I've got all the different scale ratios and different"
Scale ratios help you understand how big or small a model car is compared to the real car. A smaller number means the model is bigger compared to the real thing, like a 1:18 model is larger than a 1:64 model.
Scale ratios refer to the proportional relationship between the size of a model and the actual vehicle it represents. For example, a 1:18 scale model means the model is 1/18th the size of the real car.
Car
Genesis GV60
"...that's going on Genesis gv60 electric it's actually really cool"
The Genesis GV60 is a luxury electric SUV made by Genesis, which is a brand of Hyundai. It's designed to be stylish and high-tech, similar to other luxury electric cars.
The Genesis GV60 is an all-electric luxury compact SUV from Hyundai's luxury brand, Genesis. It features advanced technology and a premium interior, aimed at competing with other luxury electric vehicles.
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podcast 750 750 750 and and this is one
of the scary ones because at the 50
intervals we do not only just questions
because all these live ones are
questions but we do nonar questions this
is a little yeah it is scary well before
we dive in we just released today's
video on our main YouTube channel which
is a comparison of the gr86 but we also
brought with us a very highly tuned GT86
the first generation and a Porche 944
Turbo S you had no fun at all was no fun
at all just released just wanted you to
know about it but let's dive in I say
grab some questions and do it we've got
a ton of them already I should say this
though as we start a couple things going
on Welcome to our time share discussion
no actually it's gonna be better than
that time presentation Christmas is
coming and you're going to ask us about
stuff for your car people in your life
we do have five feature films I have a
novel we have T-shirts and starting next
week a new t-shirt every week being
released on blipshift from us for the
next few weeks we're actually starting
with some new ones there's a there's a
cone that says I'd hit that for all you
autocrossers out there and then there's
other great ones coming up some of these
will be returning so if you're looking
for Christmas gifts for the car people
in your life this is as close to
Christmas as we'll actually do this so
we thought we'd mention that please note
that the other thing to note is you and
I are about to go to Austin yeah thanks
for bringing that up meet up yes thank
you we've got a planned meetup on
November 18th that's a Friday evening in
Austin 2022 and and you can find all the
details on our website so if you go to
Everyday driver.com the adventures tab
there there's an uh Eventbrite uh
information you can sign up there and uh
find all the details so we're coming in
at the tail end of our fourth cars of
the P trip so cool and this will be a
cater barbecue dinner and uh we want to
see everybody so if you're in the Austin
area if you're in Texas and you're
nearby and you're able to make it we'd
love to see you yeah we'll be just that
night keep in mind it's going to be kind
of a little bit more intimate setting
we're going to be at at Andrew's really
cool color cartel we've done a podcast
cbate form a while back get into his
Lotus so he's got a really cool uh
really cool studio and he does graffiti
all over town and like hired graffiti so
he's also doing a graffiti class if
you'd like to do that you can do just
dinner or the graffiti class I'm excited
about it you got to come we're gonna
it'll be the end of that trip let's do
things that are uh that are other things
Mandy is congratulating us on nice
shirts that because Mandy makes sure we
have nice shirt so I should acknowledge
that too yes yes I'm jumping in we've
got watch questions especially over on
Discord I'm so glad you saw that it was
a question with photos yes so now I'm
really going to zone out handy reference
I'm diving into R Diamond's question
here first off for me about design and R
Diamond says asymmetry in a person's F
facial features often makes them more
attractive is there a coraly in design
where some imperfection makes the hole
more attractive you know it's not
something that I ever really had time to
explore and especially coming from I'll
give give you an example Furniture
Design imperfections were never really I
I'd say emphasized and especially for
brand new products it's hard for
customers I mean think about the stuff
that you buy brand new you don't
necessarily want an imperfection you
would only tolerate that in an art piece
or in a gallery showing so if
you I suppose asymmetry is interesting
and you know in design school you always
say asym symmetry is overrated you
always strive for something different
asymmetry but we are starting see car
manufacturers do that but in product
design you don't really want
imperfections you want an excellent
design perfectly rendered a perfect copy
of that but imperfections even though
this is not a car
podcast imperfections it's G to happen
anyway getting it already is in terms of
uh character to a car and you know not
just dirt but uh time and wear on a car
makes it character in in paint or trim
and it just makes it have more vintage
feel so the cars that are over restored
they feel artificial it feels like a
movie set feels like a Hollywood movie
set they're amazing and perfect and they
look you know you don't want to drive it
but a car that is just slightly off it
feels like you say that as the owner of
an old 928 well got time worn it and
it's just got back from the shop tonight
and it's even better than ever picked it
up it's got new exhaust manifolds and
the suspension was raised there's so
much to come anyway Nick now is asking
he said that the Top Gear guys or Now
The Grand Tour guys are known as The
Lads what do we want to be referred to
as generally we get referred to as the
guys I think the guys at everyday driver
that just makes sense Todd and Paul
works well as well you know just so you
know but but either way that's all good
stuff agreed you've got uh well you've
got movie questions I have to I have to
do this question from walopus that was
posted on Discord and then it was posted
on Instagram or maybe it was Twitter I
forget but anyway thank you for that
waffleh is a fantastic Avatar and an
actual person and he helps keep our
Discord running and thank you thank you
for that man um okay he he said this
question has has Circ circulated on read
it I haven't seen it before but it's
great if I could take one movie and
replace every person but one with
Muppets what movie would it be so it
would be a movie current movie all
surrounded by Muppets with one person
that's human and in the reverse what's a
movie that would be all the current
actors but replace one of the actors
with a muppet I have both I have both
because I had to think in terms of
ensembles to get this to work the first
one is the all Muppet
movie Michael man's movie
Heat the tense Thriller oh my gosh Heist
movie everyone in heat now the movie
doesn't change it's still bloody and
gory and tense and all of these things C
chases everyone in it is a muppet except
for alpacino who is still being alpacino
oh my gosh and he's still chewing the
scenery and being as big as alucino has
ever been but everybody else is a muppet
so that's the all Muppet one the non-
Muppet one the one with one Muppet I had
to think about who's who's a star in a
movie that that's good everybody else
around but you could take the star and
move them with a muppet it's a totally
different movie okay and I really like
this movie but I also really like this
idea top gun Maverick everybody is the
current actors and Tom Cruz is Kermit
are you kidding imagine the felt face
under G lo you
know I just somebody's got to make this
Kermit doing top Maverick there's
there's my two uh Muppet questions this
is what I love about this podcast
because it's so bizarre yeah well D
Daniel Barn says which car magazine did
we first read regularly and how did we
come across it for Daniel it was Motor
Trend in his childhood Barber Shop it
was pretty much the usual usual suspects
it was certainly Motor Trend Road and
track I still have a lot of those and I
thought I'm a magazine super freak I
love magazines and it's really hard for
me to throw them out I admit that and so
I still have a lot of those because I
use for reference and when you're in
design school and art school you're
always taught to have good reference not
just for design but also for color
schemes so you like a particular ad or
you like an image and it gives you a
nice warm cool or a setting or a a
particular you know feel for the scenery
that's always a great reference to have
when you're creating your own art and so
I just kept all these magazines and it's
really cool to have them now I have 30y
old
magazines not a lot of those I've kept
some more recent ones but still I it's
nice to pull those out and then it just
takes me back to high school and I think
oh my gosh I I can't believe I still
have this you know the Creations from
sabaro the Italian Creator who did all
those crazy uh crazy designs and uh it's
it's fun to bring those back out but
yeah all The Usual Suspects all those
magazines and then of course I expanded
into the British magazines later on
Muppet heat I'm telling you uh aam wrote
in earlier and he said when we were
first starting the show did we in land
on everyday driver what else did we
consider seriously we actually seriously
considered daily driver yeah but the
problem get that wrong call it the
problem was twofold I didn't want people
to think we were putting out content
every day and also something to us about
daily felt like it's just the thing you
drive and don't enjoy and we wanted to
lean into the everyday part meaning
let's drive something fun every single
day so that's why we went with everyday
driver all right there's also questions
on so I let's just jump right into some
watch questions petrol head
2003 has one for me he debating between
an orus big Crown propilot big date I
know I'm speaking swah already yeah it's
just it's white noise to me at this 41
millimet with a fabric strap and a
longine spirit 42 millimeters with a
fabric strap he's going back and forth
but then he throws in the tutor the
tutor black Bay 41 and the tutor Ranger
I am partial to tutor I'm wearing a
tutor I like tutors I I like the
backstory When Hans will wilsdorf
created Rolex in
1905 I think 1905 1906 somewhere around
there he also wanted an excellent watch
that was still affordable but still the
same high quality but still kind of an
entrylevel watch even though they're
still way up there but still I really
like the tutor brand so if you were
asking me all three of those I would
choose tutor but I do like orus I mean
all three of these I believe all three
of these manufacturers build their own
movements and that's what you have to
start to decide are you buying style are
you buying movement are you buying both
and the manufacturers that do both and
for a really great price is orus I do
like the orus brand a lot I always feel
like they look like kind of field
watches some of them are very chunky and
I I do like a really nice piece of
stainless but tutor seems to be the the
right balance for me so I'm I'm prefer
I'm preferable to to tutor and the brand
and the backstory with with the creation
of Rolex and how Hans went through all
the different names of what what he was
going to name this second company and
how he still wanted these excellent high
standards even applied to the sort of
the the entry level beginning brand for
Rolex and tutor has become a huge
following it's has a huge following
themselves so I like tutor orus and then
Lin Lin's never really done it for me
but that's just me so the audio just
came back for me I don't know what
happened there but anyway it was just it
was faint for a while but now it's back
Jared's writing in Jared he he says he's
a new listener and Watcher our podcast
to become one of his favorites Jared
thank you man you're asking how we met
I'm not going to recover that but I'm
going to mention this to you go to
podcast number 52 it's a long way back
700 podcasts or so in fact go which is
crazy to say but when we got to 52 we
got a couple years in we got to that
first first one and we and we thought
all right we're going to do the whole
story of the show so you can go back and
listen to that and it is an entire
podcast dedicated to how we got from
when I met this crazy guy and vice versa
and all of that gets discussed in there
there's also a couple of questions about
my book there is also a podcast it's
actually labeled as an extra podcast I
think it's like XL1 or something or X1
that talks about the inception for the
book and all of the details of the book
I would love for you to listen to that
podcast as it goes farther in depth than
I will go here but the short version of
one of the questions the process of it
being from an idea to a full- length
novel I had the idea for this book when
uh my wife and I first got pregnant and
I was facing being a father and went
Gulp and I had the idea and I started
writing as a screenplay and I got
probably 20 or so pages in which is
probably the first I don't know 20 to 30
P not Le less than that of the novel and
I realized it was bigger than I wanted
for two hours so I was like I should put
it in novel form which I'd never done
I'd written a lot of screenplays and I
was like I'm gonna start over in novel
form you know why not so 10 years later
it was done so there you go it's pretty
awesome man it's still such a great read
I appreciate it very much it's awesome
if you haven't read it it truly is a
great book Jessica s just got Emanuel
Honda Fit last month and has missed
driving a stick shift so much I'm so
glad I'm so glad you love your car and
it doesn't have to be an expensive car
to love it I yeah fantastic
congratulations let's see Leo our
Diamond's back here he's talking about
his son being 13 what three movies from
my teenage years do I want to share with
bod so he understands my formative years
better well um here's a place where I
have made some questionable fatherhood
choices he's seen all those movies by
this point he's already seen them all uh
but let me think the movies that were
real formative to me that I have shown
him Ferris day off I watched that on a
repeat late Junior High through high
school I watched that on repeat I've
shown him day off it's really really fun
so I showed him that uh Terminator 2
which is actually early college for me
uh Terminator 2 was a huge one so I
remember shared that I'm trying to think
what a good third one would be from that
era that was majorly formative for me
but uh but those are the first two that
come to my mind so I'll just stop there
oh good glub racer 6 asks me how I've be
why have I never gotten into flying yes
my dad had an airplane he had actually
two airplanes when I was about 10 years
old he had a turbocharge 206 in the
mountains in Colorado and then that left
his life and he did other things and
went back to the aviation Insurance
business and got a Cessna 182 and it was
not turbocharged but he enjoyed flying
both and he just he loved the freedom
that flying had but it it just never it
never caught hold in me I really enjoyed
going with him I like I said I know all
the pilot jokes it was fun to fly with
him and have him turn control over to me
such a different feeling but I always
like the control of tires meeting the
asphalt I always love the shape of cars
I suppose it comes down to the design
and airplanes are cool and they're cool
looking I just love the shape of cars
they're so interesting I found them far
more interesting but yeah I've got some
fond memories of flying with my dad it
was so much fun we flew actually around
uh a lot of places in Colorado I never
flew with him in Alaska after he moved
to Alaska to uh to finish his Aviation
career and and uh where people own
$300,000 airplanes and live in a shack
but around Colorado we flew into
Centennial I think I flew into Jefferson
County Airport and we would go just look
at all the Jets and the airplanes and it
was really scary to land such a little
airplane on the huge wide commercial
Runway because you think you're Landing
you're still 50 ft in the air and the
stripes get really huge those numbers
are massive we've got to be down by now
yeah and then you just click down you
just little Screech and you're down it
was just it is a lot of freedom but uh
yeah I guess I just never got into it
like he did Tyler's asking guilty
pleasure TV shows past or present a one
that I watched that I always was like
should I be watching this partially
because I was a very young father at
that point but it was uh the Spartacus
TV show was awesome I really really like
that that was gorier than I would
normally pick but I really like that and
then they less guilty pleasure but I
have to say recent TV shows Westworld is
awesome
uh the further it goes the less awesome
but it starts off incredibly strong and
I'm watching that new one uh peripheral
on Amazon Prime from the people that
brought you Westworld now I'm a walking
it's actually pretty cool it's pretty
cool I'm enjoying it so far good to know
a track daily Crush that has nothing to
do with cars from Isaac readinger yard
work oh no home
repairs and meeting with or doing
accounting I am taking that on it's very
easy for me because I hate accounting I
yeah I really tried to go after math and
chemistry and I got those prerequisits
out of the way and I I'm not good at
math I'm okay I can operate my iPhone
but not good at math so accounting gets
crushed I can't stand I will hand the
dinner Bill to somebody else to figure
out the tip okay just fine I would
happily do home repairs I actually do
like building stuff and making things so
home repairs is first on my list that's
the daily
the once in a while track kind of thing
is yard work because I don't like yard
work I mowed lawn as a kid uh well as a
actually a senior in high school Junior
and senior a buddy of mine we just we
mowed lawns and we screwed up a lot of
sprinklers and
uh was that your tagline anyway we're
here to destroy your sprinklers it's
gonna be great exactly why did I hire
you two idiots so we did it for a Dental
Group they had like a dentist like you
know Business Park a lot of dentists and
so they'd all contribute and we were the
two high schoolers doing the yard work
funny okay and you know we' just sit in
the parking lot and hang out and listen
to music and screw off and then finally
go mow a piece of yard and it was it was
crazy I I dislike all of those things
mightily however I dislike yard work in
a very very special white hot way so
that would be crushed anybody anyone
else on the planet would be doing the
artwor I guess I would do the home
repair da even though I'm not handy at
all and and then the occasion will be
the accounting my wife and I have a
strange understanding where I can do
stuff on cars yeah and she just looks at
me when something breaks in the house
and goes I'll call someone because it's
just I'm just not good at it
yeah oh Hal Bullock says uh he's asking
if I still play music and when do we get
to see a music video Never is the answer
I could call it Paul Schmucker
jams well if you actually Google my name
there was another person named Paul
Schmucker who had a record and it's the
cheesiest looking oh my gosh oh you have
to find the old post look at Nate who
does our cycle report to repost the
album cover for you that was great yeah
yes I still play my grandfather's piano
yes I still love playing it it's just
it's a relaxation for me I really love
it so uh Steve Urban saying that Amazon
music has about 200 plus am everyday
driver episodes on the platform that's
actually news to me so we'll look into
that we'll see what the story is and how
those are connecting and if we can get
more up because that's pretty cool let's
see
uh so many El there's a ton on here uh
what do we pack for our road trips from
uh mile uh when we take our smaller
sports cars what do we pack for road
trips uh a lot of it is actually just
all the tools the roadside tools I take
oil I take coolant all that stuff uh
yeah roadside uh emergency air pump
other than that it's just t-shirts and
hoodies really well we have to get we
have to get the uniform it makes me
laugh the number of times that I now put
on a red t-shirt and khaki pants and
realize these are my work clothes that's
that's just that's that I'm in uniform
my wife goes oh you shooting something
uh moose is asking me what are my
thoughts on Lord of the Rings rings of
power that is
the billion dooll experience that Amazon
is having of shooting the simarillion so
it's the prequel stuff to the Lord of
the Rings movies I'm going to go real
geeky here real quick
okay um yeah so Jr tolkin was a linguist
and he created the Elish language I'm
not making this up he created the
language and then decided to essentially
build a world to put this madeup
language in and this is how we get The
Hobbit and then the Lord of the Rings
books Hobbit was his trial run Lord of
the Rings was his was his epic and then
he goes back because it's so successful
and writes the simarillion which is kind
of a s simultaneous appendices and
prequel and it's like lots of little
stories that get referenced in the
movies and other stuff and so Amazon has
got the rights to that now and they have
done this rings of power series and that
brings me back around to your question
moose which is I've watched it I've
enjoyed it and I think it struggles from
something that all prequels struggle
from Star Wars prequels are a great
example this is a great example when you
write something that has become iconic
in our entertainment Star Wars is a
great one and so is Lord of the Rings
you those all of those stories start at
a low point and the hero is going on the
hero's journey and and it doesn't always
have to follow the hero's journey which
is something that Hollywood gets in a
rut about but ultimately what you're
doing is the good guys win this is the
projection that we're doing we're going
from Darkness into the light the good
guys win Etc but the problem is when you
do prequel you have to do the
reverse you have to take the good guys
Into Darkness and we're all watching
knowing it's only going to get worse and
I find that most of the time Lord of the
Rings rings of powers another example
the Star Wars prequels are a great
example you're watching it and you just
get this impending sense of red because
you know even though there might be
little victories and some of the scenes
turn out okay and some of the people
survive you know overall we're just
arcing downward and so it's harder for
that to feel as triumphant and fun when
you're just headed toward first off a
known commodity and it's only going to
get
worse interesting by the way on all of
our cars the P trips it's fun to plan
out the route and then think of all the
fun things that we can shoot along the
way all the gags and it brings at movie
references and then we can we've got
ideas for the fourth one oh you're going
to laugh and the third one's funny the
third one hopefully is very funny we did
post that one uh still image for
Halloween and that will be explained but
yes I I never ever thought many things
about doing this show I never thought
would happen but one of the things I
never thought would happen is that we
would wind up on road trips with a bag
that is referred to as the costume
Department we now have a costume
Department it happens it's great pretty
cool let's see Andre s would never argue
imperfections in a face to find someone
for something they can't change and is
fundamentally part of them when you see
Beaver teth all you can Wonder is this
could have been different yes true
absolutely right it could have been
different well done Dan dppi asks me
what is the best era of American design
for example Dan Loves All Things Space
Age and Aerospace inspired from fountain
pens to
appliances yeah that is interesting I
feel like current design is very Hotel
likee it's
very uh appealing to most people and I
think the designs from 19 mid 1920s to
about the early 60s in every category
from architecture Frank Lloyd Wright
houses to all the the use of bake light
that was a a big material used in all
kinds of products from phones to
toasters to shift knobs and Volkswagens
all you know designers will play with
materials and figure out new shapes and
I I think that period of course I'm a
big fan of mid-century modern but I do
like
contemporary clean look I I do like some
of the hotel looks I'll be honest like
some of the higher-end hotels that just
have a clean aesthetic and it's very
inviting and you know the colors are
very sophisticated and toned down but uh
yeah that that era probably 20s to 60s
is my opinion for every kind of product
and that does kind of cover some of the
Space Age stuff that Dan likes you know
the first Corvette you know Rockets are
the theme yeah we set a rocket into
space must be on the card out fins on
the tail for sure I mean can you imagine
being a designer thinking Rockets let's
you know sculpt little you know airons
and fins on these things so ridiculous
Trenton is asking does it bother us when
people recognize us or ask for photos
Trenton honestly not at all I find it I
still find it incredibly surprising
everybody's like I I've seen you before
I watched your work and then when they
ask for a photo that's just cool I have
no problem with that it doesn't bother
me I will tell you the only time
bothered me is I was we were at one
event and there was somebody taking
photos with a long lens way over there
and they wouldn't get close enough to
have a conversation that was weird and
and that that for the first and only
time in my life because you know we're
not even You' got sealess celebrities
deal I'm not sure what where we are in
like alphab we're down there but but it
made me realize if you were a person who
was a celebrity that every time you go
outside some taking photos of you
especially with a long lens from way
over there making it impersonal I can
see how that would get really annoying
and you would start to get like
angry about it I could see why so I
actually eventually walked over to this
person and I went to them because I
thought the photos at a distance was
weird meeting somebody directly that the
fact that you want to say hey I think is
amazing so that's cool that is cool I
love there's flying questions on here
there's more airplane questions that's
cool but CB's garage first asks us the
best ski location around Salt Lake in
Park City area CB is making the trip out
in February I did see a bumper sticker
when I first moved to town and we Park
City I saw a bumper sticker that says
nobody cares you ski Alta I mean talk
about like because there's a lot of
other on like ala ala ala you're Thumb
in their nose Utah there's just you know
the ski towns are rivaling each other so
whatever I have never skied Alta I admit
I've heard it's great I am a ski snob
he's a ski snob yes we are we've tried
snowboarding snowboarding is very cool I
do enjoy it but there's many people who
aren't that good at it and they scrape
all the snow and leave it the runs icy
they're they're horrible and so Deer
Valley is a place where we like to ski
and ski only they it's only skiing and
the joke is they you know it's so
luxurious they practically ski for you
hahaa well the other joke is that it's a
series of gourmet restaurants connected
by ski runs de Valley is awesome it's
actually really good they actually we
had heard correct me if I'm wrong but we
had heard early on that they manage the
number of guests on the mountain by how
much food they estimate they can feed
everybody on the mountain for lunch
Resturant capacity versus capacity
that's what determines if the ski day is
sold out for the day it's not number of
skiers on the mountains if we have
enough food to feed
everybody I don't know if that's still
true I don't know if now change hands
it's still true but it is completely
ridiculous and nowhere feels quite as
opulent when you're skiing as Deer
Valley and it's not why we go there but
it is something that makes it very fun
actually that brings me into this
question uh I think it's ex exist on
explo it was this was posted originally
on Instagram how do we personally beat
the constant negativity being forced fed
from online spaces first off we try to
not be one of those yeah we this why
it's no religion no politics no yelling
and angry fights uh I mean Paul and I do
disagree but but even on the podcast I
mean we we're friends we're brothers so
I mean we keep it very cordial and we
want all of our commentary in YouTube
and Discord I mean we try to keep it
very nice this is inclusive community so
that's important to us but from a
personal perspective uh this is
something that in my uh late 30s early
40s I started to really struggle with
was like wake up every day and see all
the bad stuff yeah and I had to and and
it's an ongoing reality I had to make a
conscious decision forget the online
stuff for a second it was just the the
place my head was was at to recognize
and look at the things that are good in
life the things that are good in my life
and sometimes for Seasons I've done
gratitude journals um living in Park
City feeling very very blessed I will
designate myself to go outside and do
something because it's beautiful here
and we have a job that while we work
very hard I can work and edit when it's
dark outside and the snow's blowing but
the middle of the day when it's gorgeous
I should be out yeah so I I flop a lot
of that around but I I also I take in a
lot of the the online stuff because of
course we read the news and and we want
to be informed and we want to you know
speak from that place but I also try to
focus on the stuff that I can affect
where I can make a positive impact on
wherever I am because the minute we
start we all do this the minute we start
looking at the like like the larger
world and the stuff you can't control it
can be crushing so I try to stay closer
absolutely we love the community that is
part of the Discord and we're live
streaming now but those of you listening
to the podcast later we love this
community that that people are just
friendly I mean ultimately we just all
love cars and want to hang out and enjoy
this you know cool cars together so we
love that community on the Discord and
in especially in the comments on YouTube
even though there are people that pick
at us and it's just is what it is yeah
it's fine to have a a disagreement but I
like the the general approach and and
what that kind of attitude has caused I
mean it's a choice to see the beauty and
things and to wake up happy yeah so we'd
love that uh that people continue that
on the Discord let's see big tanker asks
me uh well he says Paul in an early
podcast I mentioned my dad was a bush
pilot in Alaska well he wasn't exactly a
bush pilot himself he had stories he
worked for an insurance agency that was
a small independent firm that then
insured all these Pilots around whether
they did tours or they were you know
pilots flying fuel to the remote
communities in Alaska I mean that is
just I mean they get paid but that just
seems like a thankless job but it it
just you know the families that live on
those outlying areas they they look
forward to the airplanes that bring in
fuel and food and all their supplies but
he did have a story his his uh the
person that owned the the insurance
agency was Mike kardanski and he and
Mike would go flying Mike was he had a
number of planes and they'd go you know
just hey we need to take off to this
remote mountain town and there's cars
there but they would have to fly cars in
that's how remote this town is so really
the only way to get there is by airplane
and over the course you know through
clouds dodging mountain tops and that
kind of thing because these small
airplanes in Alaska some of those
mountain tops are taller than you are
you're flying in between mountains get
as high as to over him yeah and my dad
told me the story he said he looked down
into a canyon and he saw the glittering
wreckage of a
plane and he said wow you know he's
thinking to my himself gosh you know how
horrible but nobody will ever go in
there and remove that wreckage true yeah
ever yeah there it's not costeffective
it's too hard to get to it's too uh it
risks the lives of The Rescuers and he
down and thought if if we go down I mean
that's that's it we're done wow but not
everywhere in Alaska is like that but
there are many places and it's weird to
think about because some guys on floats
will see a little Lake and they'll just
go land on it and they might have still
been the first person to land and get
out on the beach and walk around ever
Alaska is that big so it's it just crazy
to think about and uh so he had stories
like that but I was just like Dad I'm
glad you're back I'm glad you're okay
but you know he says we banked over a a
you know very deep Canyon oh man and I
spotted wreckage down there that will
always remain yikes Dan's writing in and
saying I'm loving the movie questions is
Awesome from Marvel's success so now
Marvel has become a phenomenon and they
have a guy in charge named Kevin feige
and he is a a one in a million kind of
producer guy because he's able to not
only drive all these Marvel movies but
kind of keep them all in check and keep
all the stories connected but that comes
back to Dan's question he said movies
have become more episodic and don't tell
singular stories because they have to
lead to or tie into the next movie or
the previous movie or they have to be
part of the whole larger universe okay
he said do we think this trend will
continue and should it uh Dan it will
continue sadly because in the early
2000s right around the time that kind of
the back end when I was in the movie
industry uh movie movie studios used to
make lots of movies like when I first
started working at new line we were
making a hundred no like 60 to 80 movies
a year and when I left we were making
about
26 okay because all of the middle-grade
movies the ones that are middle budgets
you got the really low budget stuff and
the really high budget the middle budget
stuff stopped making any money and it
still is very hard to get it like a know
this sounds insane a $50 million movie
almost impossible to get made a $5
million movie or a $500 million movie
those you can get made that's insane it
is ridiculous but anyway so uh but so
the whole thing is movie studios look at
Lord of the Rings look at Harry Potter
those are examples before Marvel becomes
a thing look at the Matrix movies the
universe is a key term in in movie
studios they want to make a universe and
they want to make a lot of products in
that universe and ideally we get the
soft drink and we get the spin-off TV
show and we get the uh the theme part of
ride it's it's look up the slug
commercial it's still really great it's
shockingly true still but anyway so so
that's the thing they want to do these
universes and that that's because it it
proves over the long-term cost effective
if the a connects to the universe and we
can do a bunch of movies we know they'll
keep coming back I I get the logic and
why it makes sense financially for
Studios to do that and I get the fact
that it allows you to do the thing that
TV scores at you take a TV show and you
invest so much because you get to take
so much time on Nuance of characters
that a two-hour movie can't but if the
two-hour movie is part of 20 hours worth
of movies you can do that Nuance now
again so that's the thing that works
storytelling wise but I want to bring
all this back to my biggest problem
with multi-series movies
okay and I I've met people that were
doing Independent films that were
thinking this way well you know we're
not actually going to make this movie
end because we're setting it up for a
sequel and my opinion is if you cannot
finish your current story you're not a
good Storyteller I understand you may
need to connect other things but make
your current story have a beginning
middle and an actual end of where we
currently are even if it's just a breath
it needs to end not stop there is a
fundamental difference and sometimes
when you're building a universe all the
movie The Story just it stops here
because we're going to do another one in
a year finish your current story so that
you've earned the ability for me to ask
you to tell me another story because I
know you can do a beginning middle and
end and novels do this and movies do
this like crazy finish the story we're
gonna keep the movie discussion going
because mundan n has a question for me
about which movie has the best art
design Todd asks you which is the best
designed object for being
filmed but as far as art design I have
two artists actually a handful from
design studiopress.com this started a
number years ago but a lot of
contributors started out doing fantasy
uh vehicles I really respect Star Wars
art Direction and design there's a
there's so much that goes into it I've
just never really been into those series
movies but nevertheless I do like some
fantasy and science fiction stuff that
isn't Star Wars and worlds that are just
completely conceived and different so I
do really appreciate and I like the work
of Daniel Simon there's another guy
named Harold belker who's a great
designer he's done the light cycles for
Tron he did uh yeah all kinds of uh yeah
just kind of fantasy vehicles but even
down to weapon design and particular
pieces of clothing or gear that that's
still just so many sketches are done and
so Design Studio press has a lot of
different books about you know all the
sketching and and uh movies that these
artists have worked on Scott Robertson
is another great designer he instructed
Art Center for a long time but he's got
great work and I think he did a lot of
art direction for various films but when
I was in school not sure if I've told
the story I did get to meet Sid me I
remember this yeah he is I mean he's
passed away now but I grew up with his
uh niece in Fort Collins Melissa me and
didn't know at the time didn't put the
connection together but her uncle was
Sid me and he was the Cornerstone of Art
Center design I think he worked for GM
in the late 50s but he also did uh Blade
Runner so he is best known for Blade
Runner yeah he actually did a lot of the
art Direction when Michael Jackson was
kind of being revived and getting his
entire
tour kind of going again he would work
with various celebrities to kind of get
their concerts and tours going again but
he did all the uh Gundam characters in
Japan so he was like yeah yeah when he
would travel to Japan it would be like
David Hasselhoff traveling to Germany or
something like that reference good
reference you kind of get it if you
don't know about Hasselhoff at Germany
it is it is Google it it is terrifying
how exciting so Sid would travel to
Japan and give lectures and show off
artwork and I got to go to his house and
see some art actually Daniel Simon was
sort of a protege of Sids and the the
Blade Runner stuff that he did and the
the massive amount of books but he
always broke it down it was so
interesting because he refrigerated all
of his gouache Paints in the fridge he
would custom make all these colors and
design the color scheme and then he
would make little like salsa cups of the
the color that he wanted to use for this
entire painting okay that could never
really be replicated again after the
painting was done and he you know threw
everything away it was like that was the
color scheme but he would mix all of his
paints and refrigerate it so we could
continue to work on things and come back
and keep the painting going heard that
wow but he would Block in all the the
shapes and if you look at Sid stuff and
a lot of sci-fi Vehicles they're really
simple shapes look at just blocking
things into your scene and creating the
perspective and the color scheme then
you go back in and detail things and you
paint on you know all kinds of details
and and buckles and straps on clothing
or you know keypads and and shut lines
and you know these large objects these
large vehicles have to be built so think
about this monolithic thing that's a
spaceship well it has to be built by
people so all these panels of different
materials and what does that do and this
pops out and so you just start with some
kind of random simple shape and then
design it from there and kind of flesh
out the details so I I learned all that
stuff from him and amazing I it was
amazing just to be able to ask him I I
thought do I do I ask about you know
Blade Runner stuff the early movie and
this was before the second Blade Runner
actually came out yeah yeah yeah and he
was very open to it he just like yeah he
made it sound so nonchalant like yeah
the director called and he just wanted
me to do some crazy stuff so I just kind
of invented this vehicle and that's what
it became it was he he a job to him he
it was but he almost took the glamour
out of it but on the other hand for
everybody working on films at that point
it's you still have a job to do as cool
as this is and cool as end result is
it's still a job you're still getting
paid you know feed your family and you
know you still want to do a good job but
it's still just it's work even though
you know people hold this up as this you
know lofty thing well but that see
that's on Reflections he when I have to
think that when he was doing it Ridley I
mean the fact that Ridley Scott called
is cool but but rley Scott called yeah
he would he would speak to it like that
like Michael would call him like Michael
Jackson like you talk to Michael Jackson
You discuss your scenery for your new
concert what but but certainly with
Blade Runner I mean they were designing
stuff that they had no idea that was
going to become iconic and they had no
idea that was going to become
revolutionary and also influential to
stuff beyond that you know he he's
designing the stuff for that movie but
then it becomes far beyond that but at
the time I I can't imagine you'd have to
have an enormous ego to be like everyone
is g to copy this I I can't imagine that
that was where it was he didn't come off
like ever he was just very matter of
fact you know here's the things we need
we want it to evoke a certain feeling
because that's what's in the script and
this is the you know we've got some
story boards but we just have this kind
of vague notion of what we want it to
look like can you visualize that and
that's what futurists do can you give us
a color scheme and give us this world
this environment and it's it's the
simplest shapes and then it's detailed
and it just you know when you see it
kind of halfway done it's just sort of
like it's not really impressive but then
the magic comes when you when the
thinking comes up the details mean this
you're not just indicating things you're
thinking about what is that little cool
thing you know from this from the script
it's fascinating two questions I'm gonna
answer real quick first off uh Steve
Urban is asking if there's gonna be an
audiobook version of paper father Yes I
say it tentatively because I've wanted
to do it and here we are a couple years
since I wrote it or since it came out
and and I haven't done it yet but I want
to do it is the key thing many many
people that have read the book and have
also listened to the podcast have asked
me and almost demanded that I do the
audio books I'm going to try to do the
audiobook with all of my extra time
which is why it hasn't happened yet but
it will happen at some point Jordan is
asking about great restaurants in the
Park City or Salt Lake City area I will
give you one that's actually in Midway
called mertile I have never had so good
I have never had a bad meal at mertile
now maybe I've just oversold it and
you'll go and be like that was terrible
but mertile in Midway is well worth the
trip I mean if you want to spend money
River horse on Maine is also sure yeah
but now you're City Park City throw down
for sure see uh what
else uh Dan ask again given how many
things have been designed and created
over the course of human history is any
design actually original anymore or is
all design an amalgamation of previous
ideas there's certainly that but it's
that old saying you know he who takes
the most ideas from the most sources is
most original right sort of okay but
everything around us influences the next
thing but I think using that and trying
to come up with something I mean this is
why a lot of designers turn to Nature
because anything in nature is of course
unique and interesting and very original
so using that as reference you can
always point back to that and saying you
know I drew directly from the leaf shape
or a particular animal or the way the
muscles on a hyena or you know whatever
that I like the speed of that and
pulling that out is
always for the most part an original
theme to be able to to do that so
Nature's always something big but I
suppose you know it it's always going to
continue I mean nothing original under
the sun right uh Dan is asking if we
would ever do an R-rated podcast he said
he remembers being shocked when he saw
Bob Saget in the movie The Aristocrats
saying things you never hear on Full
House Bob Saget was an interesting guy
because he was a filthy filthy comedian
really the general public only knew him
as the dad from Full House so he was
super squeaky clean you know so very
interesting um we we are often are rated
in person we we aren't we aren't on this
podcast we want you to be able to like
drive through the the drive-through
pickup line with with your kids and and
all that and so we we worry about it on
video If you ever go on one of our
adventures with us you'll find that we
can be R-rated and we do actually cuss
and we are humans so these things happen
we have joked about an R-rated podcast
but it feels like uh you can never get
the toothpaste back in the tube that's
the concern so that's the reason we
haven't done one age let's see T rogor
147 asks what we think of the general
decline of physical
media tends to love physical copies of
video games and Blu-rays but hasn't
bought music on CD in over a decade
what's a
CD isn't that an investment thing what
what's it's kind of strange because you
tend to associate physical media with
things like cable TV even though yeah
cable is really going nowhere I mean if
only somebody bu bundled Netflix and
Amazon and Paramount plus Disney and
Hulu all in one thing and called it like
cable or I don't only somebody thought
to do that it's gon it's gonna happen
I'm serious one bill for all the I
promise you that's coming we we cut the
cord now we have all of these Services
somebody's going to bundle the services
we're going to be back to it's gonna be
one stream we went from cable to
stream My Stream bill got really
expensive that's it yeah the stream Bill
anyway physical media I still love
magazines and I think periodicals will
still remain for a long time a lot of
the reasons is because of tooth on paper
and thickness and having that tangible
object and it sort of immortalizes that
of course books do that but as far as
newspapers I don't miss newspapers at
all I use an iPad I read everything
online I prefer it because there's links
to videos you can click links to other
referenced articles or you know research
or that kind of thing so I I prefer that
so it's a bit of a mix you know I think
it would just kind of depend on on each
one so many good things here uh people
are inventing new drinking games because
I always I always I'm an active listener
and so they're going to drink because
I'm an active listener I'm sorry about
that on on the physical media side I
think it's awesome but I heard somebody
observed one time thought this was
genius and great about our modern time
this the products that really succeed
are products that allow us to do less
the luxury of of relaxation and time and
I love Blu-ray and I I love physical
media very much but the ease of scroll
scroll oh search search oh I can watch
that right now I don't even have
sometimes this is the danger my son will
find something on I've done it too some
find something that'll be like no no no
no no we we own that it's right there on
dis because he was about to purchase
because you could just you could just
get it right here so it's it's the ease
of it that's such a hassle you have to
put the disc into this box I know what
on Earth but they love me when the
internet goes out I'm like we still have
movies you know so that happens too but
but that's that's never going back
because it is just that ease of use and
this is the thing that the grand uh
cloud and I love your joke the cloud is
just someone else's computer it but this
is the great thing about the cloud is
that we have instant access to
everything and you don't have to have I
don't have one of those players I don't
I don't have I used to have one of those
players and now I don't no just
boom MCC now MC mcow MCC now MCN yeah
asks if we've ever thought of pulling
stills from some of our 4K shots and
selling them or better yet a coffee
table book or how about like a
calendar yes but who's gonna do that
work is my question what a great idea
yes I don't know who actually curates
that and as far as
sales who knows who knows the photo
intern is showing up I would love to
think they would sell like crazy but it
would also be a little weird to go to
the grocery store and be like oh the
calendar with all our cool stuff is for
sale right there I guess I'll mark down
to 50 cents yeah get your coffee table
book it would be print on demand but
yeah I don't know how many people would
actually do that' be very funny yeah uh
there's a I'm sorry back into movies but
thank you Ray as he's asking me as a
screenwriter and Star Wars fan how do I
feel about Luke Skywalker's
characterization in the sequel
Trilogy um okay again
Trilogy does the whole Arc thing as well
and they had to struggle with that
there's a lot of baggage because of how
important Luke Skywalker is to the first
three movies the thing I was boggled by
and I read this multiple times you had
JJ Abrams but more importantly Kathleen
Kennedy who's been a great producer for
a long time since working as an
assistant for Spielberg with Raiders so
um she was in charge of lucasfilm she
was handpicked to take lucasfilm and the
DU the new series and they hired three
great filmmakers and ran Johnson doing
the second one second of the three new
films the Ray films and ran Johnson is
an amazing filmaker if you've not seen
the movie Looper with Bruce Willis
Joseph Gordon levit do yourself a favor
and watch it as soon as possible it's a
fantastic movie he's a great filmmaker
also did knives out but he gets hired to
do a Star Wars movie which I was very
excited about but apparently unlike
Marvel and Kevin feige and this is a
place where I think lucasfilm made a
mistake they didn't say this is the plot
line for these three movies they gave
these talented filmmakers and said we're
going this kind of Direction but you
pick your path so ran Johnson writes
what is a very
controversial progression spoiler alert
uh end of Luke Luke Skywalker and then
at the end of that movie so much of the
audience was disappointed that JJ Abrams
and there's other reasons why he came
back for the third one whole other M
mess he ends up having to kind of clean
it up by retreading so much stuff to
make the third one satisfy people I mean
this is the problem with with online uh
raging audience culture is that we we
kill creativity sometimes I think ran
Johnson did really cool things but I'm
surprised they allowed it because was
taking the the whole franchise in a
direction that was difficult for them to
recover from so I like him and his
choices but I think he probably should
have been told to not in some of this
the Luke Skywalker stuff in order to
progress it in a different
way let's switch subjects to
architecture got a question from Ryan
stamp asking me if I had the opportunity
to design my own home would I if so what
style would you go with yes I would I
would love to do this of course I don't
know with what money that I would
however I would love to I've actually
kind of dabbled before but there's
actually an architect and a builder in
Salt Lake city named Ezra Lee as a
matter of fact chance and I have had a
lot of discussions about furniture
pieces and design in general and he's a
big fan I think he actually brought Ezra
Lee to my attention but Ezra lee.com and
the architectural style in there is not
so modern that it's cold it's not so
modern and crisp that it's
unfriendly it's still warm and modern
and soft enough that I think it will be
timeless really like a lot of the the
mostly residential homes but a lot of
the houses from from the ezar Lee
portfolio is just amazing and I like
that kind of style you know it's it's
all very functional but still it's not
quirky quirky is the wrong word it's
just it's very unique but still that you
know offshoot is very functional and
great idea and kind of pushing
boundaries with material yes I
absolutely would but every time I talk
to somebody who has built a house okay
they sayi never do that again after
having to choose all the tile every
single person talk faets and the you
know they're like I'll never do that
again and then of course they build
their third house what do this is a Park
City disease but they still come out of
it like falling across the Finish Line
because it cost more and it was
frustrating and the number of questions
why would you do that to yourself but on
the other hand the opportunity to do
something like that but the problem is
is that a forever is that long term is
this like I'm going to die in this house
and I'll live here for 60 more years or
whatever or is this like you know I want
to design it to be sold and make some I
don't know I'm not a flipper but yes I
would design a house I just the problem
is I don't know how long I'd stay there
you go there you go there's so many
there's so much great stuff in here uh
there's um there's a lot of questions
that have been covered at other places
in other uh car debates back to episode
52 if you want to hear kind of where we
grew up in our origin story neither one
of us actually I grew up in Texas so no
fun roads around there uh people are
asking about uh okay here we go Superman
Batman Iron Man favorite method of
transportation oh actually you're no
you're asking a car question that
doesn't count I thought you were saying
which do we prefer oh I I'm throwing
that one out sorry about it we got close
anyway uh so that's that's a good one um
the professor uh said hello from New
Zealand uh really appreciate you
watching thanks for joining us let's see
our Diamond asks if you could buy an 80
inch 8K TV toew piece ofart or one good
painting what would you do what would we
choose I have it it's really interesting
it is a painting by John William godward
from 1895 called mischief and Repose the
original is actually hanging in the
Getty in Los Angeles okay and it's
fascinating because of all the different
materials that are rendered it's two
ladies laying there on some marble but
there's fur and marble and flesh with
linen over it and all these different
materials under the same lighting
conditions rendered with a single brush
and all the same paints and you can feel
the different textures you feel the cold
marble you feel the lint you feel the
animal fur and the Velvet drapes and
it's you know an 1895 style but the
composition is fairly interesting but I
love it because of the materials and the
artist was able to use just I mean not
one brush but still just all the same
paints yeah and they're so different
it's fascinating to look at so that
would be I I it's weird I I like
Contemporary Art but that would be the
one piece that I just i' really enjoy
Andre I'm gonna try to answer your
question quickly which is going to be
hard he said what makes a $50 million
movie harder to make than a $5 million
movie it comes down to the risk factor
and the marketing Factor your typical
$50 million movie is a romantic comedy
or for a drama that adults are going to
go to not
teenagers not little kids not people
looking for an action movie the 50
million doll movie is typically Talking
Heads it is Stars possibly stars with
big uh salary requirements talking to
each other having a drama but the
problem is that means that the people
that need to go to that movie are not
the people that binge watch anything
Titanic was Star Wars for 12-year-old
girls it was which is why that was so
successful Star Wars is Star Wars that's
12-year-old boys are watching it over
and over and over and over and over
that's what makes these things
successful okay you you want people I
hate to say it but people 40 years old
and older or retired folks to come to
your talking head movie that cost $50
million but the problem is $50 million
is just to get the movie made most
movies have at least again their budget
sometimes two or three times their
budget on a $50 million movie it's
probably going to be at least $100
million in marketing now you still blows
me away if you make a $300 million movie
it may only have $150 million in
marketing Which is less than the movie
cost but if $50 million movie just the
typical marketing program is probably
around $100 million worth of marketing
so now the movie cost $150 million will
enough adults show up once to make it
worthwhile and the answer sadly is
probably not you make a $5 million movie
you played it Sunday you made it for one
a studio will take a risk on that
they'll buy it for 10 they'll market it
for 20 million we have $30 million into
a total and it falls on its face and we
lost 30 million and we go who cares you
make a who thinks like this this is film
studios my friend you make a $250
million movie and you Market it to $250
million you spent $500 million on the
movie but if it makes a
billion and that's the thinking I mean
if we talked about cars in those kind of
terms people would say who are you
people what's wrong with you know this
is your typical day at a at a
development meeting on a film studio I
wish it was different but it's not I've
got a question from Liz mcennis and Leon
Leanne says she seconds that and Liz
question is that we're both the voices
and faces of everyday driver how many
employees are behind the scenes well
chance Hales is our he wears many hats
yes he is a primary photographer and
videographer and editor and assistant
editor and uh what else he wears he he's
on here so hey hey chance I need you to
do this for me that's Chance is at the
other end of that hard for color and
composition and photography and so he's
been with us a long time and really
appreciate his work a lot of the work
you see is is that and then we also have
writers on everyday driver.com so all of
our written articles we've got a really
talented team writers and there's all
kinds of different articles a lot of
different takes on the the automotive
world and how cars have affected these
guys so those so about what six or so
behind theen six guys I mean here's the
thing you have to also know Liz this
here's the part of it chance works with
us full-time Paul and I are fulltime
chance is fulltime everybody else that
helps us helps us in their free time or
for a little bit of compensation
depending upon what they're doing
occasionally we'll bring in an
additional editor or two for like we're
buried we need an an edit on this
project we'll hire somebody freelance uh
Mandy helps us like crazy with the
marketing and the t-shirts and all that
kind of stuff I want to talk about Mandy
because she sets up our events she she
does so much behind the scenes that Todd
and I don't even know about let's put it
that way I mean getting the t-shirts
done and the events handled and
everything coordinated stuff I'm
terrible at and she's really good at
spreadsheets that I I hate spreadsheets
you're right that's fair okay you hate
yard work with fiery white hot suns I
hate Excel I cannot stand it it's funny
because I excel doesn't bother me but I
know it really gets under your skin I
know it does can I draw you a little
chart I'll just sketch it out for you
and you'll get it right but then I can't
change it yeah anyway well but also then
then my wife handles some of the admin
and has always been the person behind
the scenes help helping us set up the
European pilgrimage so we have people
that have like a specialty for us but
Chance is the only full-time person and
he's awesome yeah
let's see
oh let's oh game bear ask me what's my
favorite Distillery and have I visited
before no I haven't been to any
distilleries if you can believe it
that's I I can't believe it to be honest
I uh Highland Park is my go to it's my
favorite there's some distilleries in
Japan that I would really like to go to
but I I brookly is actually probably my
favorite because of their variety from
Rocket Fuel to you know non PD drinkable
things so I I probably brookly but I
have not been there I need to
travel there man that we could almost do
an entire movie podcast I'm not going to
do it a couple of you have asked for
stories from my dad and his Corvette C6
and my dad's probably watching but I
will say here's the update on the C6 he
said to me recently he said I can't
believe I still own that car because
when he bought it so cool then there was
kind of the not the buyer regret but the
I really have this car I really spent
that money on it am I going to drive it
enough there was all those questions the
first six months what I think is the
best part about it now that I applaud my
dad and my mom for this but when my dad
bought it he specifically bought an
automatic because he decided he as much
as he knows how to drive stick and he
knew that I could teach my mom he was
like I don't want your mom to be the
least bit apprehensive to just get in
and drive it and now when they take it
somewhere she does about 75% of the
driving and she loves it and she wants
them to keep it I at some point they'll
probably get rid of it but but my dad I
think would be like all right I had my
Corvette thing but my mom's like we need
to take the Corvette out again and I'm G
to tell them I'm GNA shame them publicly
they need to take a road trip in the
Corvette anytime a road trip comes up
they're like no but we should take
something else I'm like road trip it's
got this cavernous back on it Go road
trip in the vet they said to me well I
don't know if the seats will be
comfortable my answer to that was so
stop so drive a 100 miles and stop for a
bit I mean you end up in the Corvette on
million dollar Highway and that's just
better just better it is it is I agree
Mark Cooper asks he says watches a do we
collect any knickknacks like ceramic
figurines wood carvings paper art
bobbleheads what do we
collect let's see tools I collect tools
and probably Matchbox cars Hot Wheels
all that kind of stuff I I love getting
that stuff and I I've got all the
different scale ratios and different
sizes it's not the biggest collection
ever but it's very curated and I I of
course it is various things but yeah
back to
cars um let's see we've got oh the
everyday driver Distillery tour of
Scotland that's funny actually Scotland
is one of those places I desperately
want to drive but now we're toward cars
so Todd collects backpacks I do
accidentally yes I collect bags yeah
just bags in general right this bag has
this really cool pocket that look at the
zipper you who car I've got we literally
we've got like the the the water heater
Closet in our house has hooks for
backpacks every open I'm like why do I
have this many yeah every time you open
it I ask why do you have that many yeah
which is an appropriate question
absolutely mhm yeah
we could do some camping I have the bag
yeah for sure there's some camping going
on now let's see apparently the Kentucky
Bourbon Trail is awesome Mandy can
second that she has done that I
believe uh 2th has asked me about Dune
um the short answer is uh Dennis Vu is
unbelievably good and when I heard he
was doing Dune I was like bring that on
now what I'm most surprised about is the
fact that there was a movie that stopped
and didn't finish because they told half
the story and I cannot believe that they
spent all the money and all the effort
to make half of the story without even
having a green light to do the second
part yet I just no part of my brain
makes that make sense thankfully they
are doing a second part but because they
had to like close down production and
ramp it's going to be a couple of years
before it comes out I thought it was the
version of Dune that probably should
have been done however the issue being
that since it was only half of it and
they kind of they they never really told
us this is half they just went the movie
Dune is coming and so I'm sitting there
kind of knowing the story line kind of
looking at my watch going um or in this
case my phone because I don't have a
watch I kept thinking this movie's been
really long and weal watch we aren't
very far into the story yet and we
should be getting there faster and I was
there with my son who was trying to hang
on uh so I really like it I think it's
amazing I just kind of wish they would
have planned both from the beginning so
we could have the full Arc Joe M asks
how many speeding tickets we we both
gotten but we cannot answer any car
questions on this podcast so save that
for the next one we'll we will talk
about that that's excellent I like it
we're doing all the uh the non-car
questions what else here did we cover
the stuff on social media and covered a
good number I did Cover the watch
questions on Discord so there's that
yeah I we have chance has misnamed it we
have the Wonder bag we have the Wonder
bag on shoots do we have to bring this
because it is a here's the thing it is a
heavyduty bag of nylon that is like the
carbon fiber equivalent of nylon for all
the sharp bits
and it's a bag that the sharp bits don't
poke through and I think that's amazing
that's why I call it the Wonder bag we
went through like three other bags that
stuff was in and it just perforated all
of them and I bought this bag and that
bag's like nope which is great the other
thing is charge Village it's all the
charge Village stuff that gets plugged
in after a day shoot in somebody's hotel
room yep and it's
like it's like the 12 or 15 slot the
meter on the back of the hotel turns
into a ceiling fan it's like they're
excited to see me leave yeah it's see
rev's up asks what would we do if the
show bought the winning ticket to
Powerball there would be quite a car
collection more exotic cars more of this
no actually I would I still wouldn't do
that I still can't to do that yeah I
we're we're answering car questions
talking about cars but you know what it
would be would be philanthropy I have a
strong desire for the show somehow to do
philanthropy and buy cars for people in
need I just don't know how to avoid
fraud and
misuse of something like that you know I
don't know how to identify with you know
I mean and people abusing that and I
want it to just be anonymous and no
credit here just helping people in need
and I'd love it if it were a car you
know because people can rarely afford
new cars you know and people in need and
so I would love the show to be able to
just I would love to do that too we've
actually we've actually talked about
this a little bit and one of the things
is we realized we could never put out a
you know so send us your submissions
because it would be we constantly
reading these cheerful stories how do
you decide the person that get we can't
possibly do that if you're right if
there was a way to do it anonymously
that would be very very cool granted
that would be after post winning the
lottery because that first but then yeah
that that there's that whole thing yeah
see chance is g to take a picture of
charge Village oh no it's just it's just
a sea of wires it's it's and and it ends
up in somebody's hotel room and you end
up tripping over in the middle of the
night it's awesome it's really good
stuff yeah uh let's
see heated or nonp whiskey also there
are great distilleries in Brooklyn there
are that's good to know I'm glad to hear
that I am a ped guy but I do like the
non-p Japanese whiskies I admit to that
so a little bit of both but I do lean
towards the light Pete so okay I'm back
to White Noise over here easy drinking
anyway somebody is actually asking me
because I don't drink alcohol and I and
I don't because I've just never enjoyed
it so what is my soda of choice Cherry
Coke I've been through many I had I had
a decade or so where Mountain Dew in
like fire hose amounts but that is
behind me and now when when I have soda
it's typically Cherry Coke if I can pick
exactly what I want it's that
see what else uh are we goingon to sell
the jackets again from sniper GT on
Discord we'd like to I'd like to do
another round of
hats nice yes and limited edition we
need to do those maybe we should do that
for Christmas time that might make some
sense yeah yeah the the the issue with
the jackets is the jackets are not
inexpensive and we have to make a pretty
limited run but I appreciate the request
and now would be the time so I do hear
you on that yeah for sure we're at the
top of the hour this is flown by I'm
looking for any last questions that we
haven't gotten to I'm scrolling back up
at the top here so um Liz is asking if
on any YouTube podcast we might actually
show the first everyday driver episode
and critique it Live Liz really it's
it's hopefully only gotten better since
must we actually walk through it must
must we take that pain and share it
anyway um and uh Ray is actually asking
about the Last of Us TV show on HBO am I
interested uh because the the game was
mentioned on the podcast discussing my
book I I did not play that game and I
had and I was concerned that people
would compare it to that and would also
compare it to cormack McCarthy's the
road and first couple people that read
it Nate specifically unbeknown to him
that these were my concerns called out
both of those in his review and I went
oh no you were sweating it I was really
sweating it but he felt like I I found
my own way even though it it had pieces
that that was reminiscent of those
things which makes me very intrigued by
The Last of Us I'm amazed that they are
taking that video game and making an HBO
quality serial show about it that's
fascinating I have had some vague
discussions about trying to get paper
father made into a TV show I think that
would be the best way to execute it who
knows if that'll happen but we'll see
okay last question for me here from Dale
evil tangents asking very much uh way
back up at the top here who suffers more
Todd having to eat vegetables or Paul
having to drink bad
booze life is too short to drink bad
booze I feel like but bad but good booze
doesn't have to be expensive you can
find you know good reasonable price but
I have seen Todd eat vegetables it it it
occurs yeah like rarely but witnessed
this I didn't film it but you crazy
things crazier things have occurred uh
Steve is saying after four road trips
and actually we're just about to do
South if not Park City where and to be
honest what I am amazed by and I feel
very blessed by the fact that we live
here I I can't believe that we get to go
to cool places and then we return to
Park City and go yeah I'm going back to
Park City which is unbelievable there
was a lot of stuff in Montana that I
love there was a lot of stuff in the
Pacific Northwest that I loved but I
also really like living here
it's pretty awesome pretty cool we we
have so much more coming guys thank you
for being with I cannot believe an
hour's just vanished thank you for being
with us on this I want to I want to
mention real quick that we have this
community on Discord that has a life of
its own and I love it it really does so
if you are a patron you get to be on the
Discord and and people have found great
friendships and taken road trips and of
course joined us on road trips as well
but there's a whole Community there that
is Way Beyond you and I and I love that
but it's also very just welcoming which
I think is really cool so that's going
on we will continue to to uh do the
patron calls because if you're at the
upper level Patron we do a call with
those folks every every month so that's
cool our what we call our board member
call there's no actual voting on what
we're doing we just share but uh that's
the board member call we have tons more
coming to YouTube on both our channels
remember it's this one test drive videos
and the original channel the original
channel is now becoming more curated to
our road trips our long-term ownership
cars and our TV show and then the test
drive is the stuff feels more like this
podcast which is why this is going there
us in a car together the single cars
that we're getting sent from all the
manufacturers thank you to those
manufacturers for sending us a constant
we have two cars in the drive right now
yeah and and the drives are snowing in
we're trying to figure out how we get
cars in I know this is a real Park City
problem so that's going on Genesis gv60
electric it's actually really cool
looking forward to driving that thank
you for your patronage thank you for
supporting this we' love what we do we'
love sharing it with you we look forward
to seeing you on an adventure keep in
mind just a last reminder here for that
uh February sorry November friday8 the
18th November 18th 2022 in Austin Texas
we've got the Meetup plan if you're in
the Texas area come on out come come see
us we'd love to see there and uh that'll
be the culmination of our fourth road
trip but as Todd has said we've got
plans formulating for next year for 2023
road trips and a last reminder that we
are this podcast happens technically
three times a week two of you and I we
record on Mondays for a Tuesday release
and Thursdays for a Friday release for
our typical car debate podcast we also
have a Wednesday relas which is audio
from test drive videos that happens as
well so if you are just discovering we
have a podcast hi they're not all live
they typically are all audio but every
25 we'll be right back here doing this
taking your questions which we love so
thank you guys for that and uh we will
see you soon actually you you won't see
us soon on the podcast but you'll hear
us soon Leanne listens to all the older
podcasts on long drives to San Francisco
from Napa that's cool Leanne really
appreciate it thank you guys yeah that's
fun we're
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