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AAH #797 - How to Catch Up to China Speed

AAH #797 - How to Catch Up to China Speed

Autoline After Hours Jun 26, 2026 60 min
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About this episode

The conversation connects “catching up to China speed” to engineering workflows, manufacturing execution, and trade realities. Guests explain how digital twins and simulation—accelerated by AI—can compress development cycles, reduce physical prototypes, and enable faster decisions via edge/looped validation. They also discuss shop-floor precision needs, AI agents, and lights-out/voice-driven data collection. The episode then pivots to Mark Wakefield’s “Fortress North America” approach, covering tariff compliance, USMCA loopholes, and why regional self-sufficiency timelines are hard.

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simulation

"And one of the key ways of achieving that, of course, is simulation... And you know, when you think about simulation, now, in the past you would do a prototype to discover issues."

Simulation means running “virtual tests” in a computer model instead of immediately building and testing real hardware. It helps engineers find problems earlier and try lots of scenarios quickly.

Company

Siemens

"And I got to believe this is one of the things that Siemens is deeply into. Speaker 7: Oh gosh, it's I think it's the foundation of everything we do."

Siemens is a big engineering-technology company. In this conversation, they’re mentioned as a provider of software tools used to simulate products and speed up development.

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digital twin

"Speaker 8: So we often talk about digital twin and people have a different representation of digital twin. You'll hear a lot of people talk about it and they think about it as a sophisticated three D CAD model, but it's just so much more than that..."

A digital twin is a computer “stand-in” for a real product. Instead of just looking like it in 3D, it’s used to predict how it will behave and how it will be built, so engineers can test ideas before making physical prototypes.

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multiphysics

"Speaker 8: ...it’s really important to set that up... when we represent the digital twin correctly, it’s a multifaceted, multiphysics, multifunction model..."

Multiphysics means the computer model accounts for more than one kind of physical effect at the same time. That makes the virtual results closer to what will happen in the real world.

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NPI cycles

"Speaker 8: ...what you can do with simulation is absolutely outstanding. And that's where we see, I think, some of the key advancements to drive NPI cycles..."

NPI cycles are the time it takes to introduce a new product—basically from early engineering to getting it ready for production. The idea here is that better simulation helps reduce that timeline.

Company

Altair

"Speaker 8: ...we spent a couple of bucks on an acquisition... of a company based in Troy, Altair, and that's been a huge, huge benefit..."

Altair is a tech company mentioned as part of an acquisition. The hosts say it helped Siemens’ product-development tools, including for electric-vehicle development.

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Realized Lab

"Speaker 8: ...we even showcase that we were talking about Realized Lab earlier our user event Detroit, and so we had over three thousand people..."

Realized Lab is mentioned as part of Siemens’ showcase at a user event. In this context it appears to be a program or platform used to demonstrate how their tools (simulation/digital twin) translate into real engineering outcomes.

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vehicle development cycle

"Speaker 8: ...They did some really amazing work and compressing their vehicle development cycle and eliminating a significant amount of physical prototypes."

The vehicle development cycle is how long it takes to go from designing a vehicle to being ready to build it. The claim here is that better digital tools can shorten that timeline and cut down on prototype builds.

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physical prototypes

"Speaker 8: ...compressing their vehicle development cycle and eliminating a significant amount of physical prototypes."

Physical prototypes are actual sample parts or cars built so engineers can test them. The point here is that simulation can catch many problems earlier, so you don’t need as many real prototypes.

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AI

"Speaker 8: ...With AI, I can experiment with thousands of iterations digitally."

AI here means computer “smarts” that can help explore design options faster. Instead of testing only a few versions, it can run lots of digital experiments to find better solutions sooner.

Topic

heavy metal AI

"Speaker 5: ...I call it heavy metal AI and they're talking about we're actually going to build something physical at the end of this, not an ll M."

“Heavy metal AI” is a nickname for using AI to build real cars and parts. The host is contrasting that with AI that mainly generates text or answers, like a chatbot.

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LLM

"Speaker 5: ...we're actually going to build something physical at the end of this, not an ll M."

LLM means a large language model—an AI that’s mainly good at working with text, like writing or answering questions. The host is saying this conversation is about AI used for engineering work, not just text.

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software defined vehicle

"legacy automakers are working on all this, but they all seem to be struggling with it, especially when you get to a software defined vehicle."

It’s a car where software does a lot of the controlling, not just the mechanical parts. Because of that, the car can sometimes get new features or improvements through software updates.

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bill of materials

"look at it and we look at the maturation of the bill of materials. So we have a design bomb and electronic bill materials and manufacturing bill of materials are electronic bill of process."

Think of a bill of materials as the car’s “shopping list” of everything needed to build it. If the list is wrong or doesn’t match the design, the build and integration can get messy.

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electronic bill of process

"So we have a design bomb and electronic bill materials and manufacturing bill of materials are electronic bill of process."

It’s like a digital “work instructions” list for how to build the car. When it’s connected to the design, it helps factories build the right thing the same way every time.

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systems model

"we also have to look at mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, electronics software combined in the systems model."

A systems model is a big digital map of how different parts of the car work together. It helps engineers make sure the mechanical parts, wiring/electronics, and software all agree with each other.

Concept

reindustrialized

"I would tell you it's the transition from current state we talked about reindustrialized. You're seeing all kinds of countries do amazing things with manufacturing, and now there's all this investment in the US."

Reindustrialized means increasing manufacturing in a country again, not just relying on imports. Here, it’s about building more of the supply chain locally so production can move faster.

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Brownfield

"But the fact is we have Brownfield. So it's the same issue in manufacturing as we see in the OEMs you're talking about. We have to take the existing structure and start evolving it quickly."

Brownfield means using land that was used before, like an old industrial site. It often needs upgrades or cleanup before you can build something new on it.

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micro credentialing

"We've launched this thing called micro credentialing that will allow students to get in there early."

Micro credentialing means earning smaller certificates for specific skills. Instead of waiting for a full degree, students can start building job-relevant knowledge sooner.

Concept

AI enabler

"And then how is AI enabler for that?"

An “AI enabler” is the idea that AI isn’t just a standalone feature—it’s integrated into workflows to make engineering tasks easier or faster. Here, it’s framed as AI being built into training sessions and design tools so engineers can learn and work more effectively.

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CAD environments

"But the AI should be incorporated right into those sessions as simple as we had the complexity of CAD environments."

CAD is the computer software engineers use to design parts and vehicles. The idea here is that AI can help people work faster inside those design programs.

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edge

"And so how we solve those things and take train digital twin models and have them at the edge so I can make a decision quickly."

“Edge” means doing the computer processing right near the machines that are collecting the data. That way you don’t have to wait for results from a far-away computer.

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digital thread

"And I think that's one of the great things about working for a company like Siemens is that our world isn't three D geometry by itself, it's not system modeled by itself, it's not float on or requirements."

A digital thread is the idea of keeping all the computer information connected from design to building the product. Instead of starting over at each step, the same data keeps flowing through the whole process.

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system model

"And so when you talk about a software defined vehicle, there's different levels of understanding the impact of what that system model needs to behave like, and I think those are going to give us the future advancements in working with the supply base as well."

A system model is a computer “map” of how different parts of the car work together. Engineers use it to predict behavior and catch problems earlier.

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agents

"I think an amazing equalizer for companies is how can they implement agents effectively because right now it's super expensive."

Here, “agents” means AI that can do tasks for you, not just talk. It can help carry out steps in a workflow to speed up engineering work.

Concept

AI tokens

"You go consume a bunch of AI tokens, you wake up you have a billion didn't anticipate at the end of each month."

Tokens are the small pieces of information an AI system reads and processes. If you use the AI a lot, the cost can add up because it has to process more of those pieces.

Concept

Fortress North America

"But one thing I wanted to get into that really stood out for me is you're advocating for what you're calling Fortress North America. Not just Fortress America, but North America. Take it from there."

This is a strategy idea for protecting North America’s auto industry. The goal is to make it easier for car companies and suppliers to keep operating even when outside rules or disruptions happen.

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tariff

"it's it starts with almost being crazy that we're doing projects to help suppliers and automakers figure out the compliance. And when I mean the compliance, I don't just mean actually how to comply on the tariff. I mean like the administrative pieces of it."

A tariff is a tax a government charges on imported products. If parts or cars cross borders, tariffs can make them more expensive, so companies have to follow the rules to avoid problems.

Concept

tracing across Mexico and Canada and the US

"Actually, it's like one to two percent of the cost of a vehicle. Two thousand dollars a vehicle. Yeah, almost that. ...a US NCA two that's very focused on origin, on tracing, and it's tracing across Mexico and Canada and the US"

“Tracing” here refers to tracking where materials and components come from to prove compliance with origin rules. In automotive trade policy, this can affect which parts qualify for tariff treatment and how companies structure sourcing.

Concept

supply chain and value chain

"you've got, first of all, the supply chain and the value chain is already built that way. The market is dominated by the US, so"

Think of the supply chain as how parts get made and shipped. The value chain is everything that turns those parts into a finished product that people buy.

Concept

stranded capital

"instead of just a tariff that becomes a higher priced car because there's a lot of stranded capital that will come from moving plants hundred miles south from Canada or a hundred miles north from Mexico."

Stranded capital is like spending money on a factory or equipment that you can’t fully use later. If companies move production, some of that earlier investment may not pay off anymore.

Concept

automakers are becoming more regional

"You mentioned the compliance costs and sort of the costs of ripping up the existing kind of state of play in North America. You talked about something else though, which seems like it's going to happen... the automakers are becoming more regional."

More regional means car companies may build and source parts differently for different regions. Instead of one plan for the whole world, they adapt to local rules and supply networks.

Concept

build it once, sell it everywhere

"The idea of you. Know, build it once, sell it everywhere, which I started with and this is probably you did too. That's gone right, I mean, and."

This phrase means making one car design and selling it in many countries. The point here is that new rules and costs are making companies adjust cars by region instead.

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critical minerals

"Speaker 6: ...one of the keynote speakers was Hot of the Critical Minerals division of the DIE... talking about bringing back or finding alternatives to both rare earth and other critical minerals for batteries."

Critical minerals are special materials that are hard to get reliably. They matter a lot for making batteries, so shortages can slow down EV production.

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rare earth

"Speaker 6: ...bringing back or finding alternatives to both rare earth and other critical minerals for batteries."

Rare earths are a set of materials used in some battery and motor technologies. Because they can be hard to source, people look for alternatives to avoid supply problems.

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Tier one's battery companies

"Speaker 11: ...doing it with twenty different players doing it between Tier one's battery companies and OEMs, versus doing it as a pre competitive base..."

“Tier one” companies are the big suppliers that make key parts for carmakers. The point here is about whether many top suppliers coordinate, or whether governments set up shared groundwork first.

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OEMs

"Speaker 11: ...between Tier one's battery companies and OEMs, versus doing it as a pre competitive base..."

OEMs are the carmakers—the companies that build the vehicles. They work with suppliers to develop and source the parts that go into the cars.

Concept

pre competitive

"Speaker 11: ...versus doing it as a pre competitive base that then is able to be used by people that participated in that that are US based..."

“Pre-competitive” means the early stage where companies cooperate on shared foundations before they compete with their own products. The idea is to avoid everyone doing the same basic work separately.

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AV training data

"Speaker 4: ...think of AV training even beyond the hard things of chips think of like. How hard it is to get good quality AV training data."

AV training data is the real-world driving information that self-driving software learns from. The better and more complete the data, the better the system can be trained.

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L two plus plus L three

"Speaker 11: ...and yet right and yeah, it's. ...be able to do ultwo plus plus L three."

This is talking about levels of self-driving. Higher levels mean the car can do more of the driving itself, though the exact responsibilities differ by level.

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OTA

"But man, I wish we could go on another two hours. [2889.3s] Speaker 2: But what you brought up yesterday is that over the year updates OTAs might become obsolete. [2895.4s] Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I didn't mean are obsolete in that way, because it's still with you're talking about the AI dvs, so you get self healing."

OTA means the car can get software updates over Wi‑Fi/cellular, like your phone. Instead of going to a shop, the update downloads and installs wirelessly. It’s used for fixes and new features, but it usually has to pass safety checks first.

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self healing

"[2895.4s] Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I didn't mean are obsolete in that way, because it's still with you're talking about the AI dvs, so you get self healing. So right now, there's a [2905.2s] lot of bug fixes that go on in in OTAs, and it's it's a frustration because you know you want new features in the car as a customer."

Self healing means the car can notice something wrong and try to fix it automatically. Instead of needing a full update right away, it can adjust itself in the moment. But bigger changes still usually require an approved software update.

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driver monitoring layer

"So not into [2934.2s] the source code, but just into like a driver monitoring layer and a driver that configures things instead of really adjusting source code. The source code of course has to [2945.9s] get home alligation tested, and then the OTA is still happened a lot because you still have then that vehicle saying hey, I fix this thing."

A driver monitoring layer is the car’s software that keeps track of what the driver is doing and how they’re behaving. It can then change how the car responds. The idea here is that it can help fix issues without needing a full software rewrite every time.

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homologation

"The source code of course has to [2945.9s] get home alligation tested, and then the OTA is still happened a lot because you still have then that vehicle saying hey, I fix this thing. [2954.2s] Speaker 4: Anybody else want this fixed? Kind of thing?"

Homologation is the official safety/approval process that makes sure a software change is allowed to be used in the car. Even if the car can fix some things automatically, other changes still have to be checked and approved first. That’s one reason updates can take time.

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battery drain

"because especially with the vehicles today, there's a lot of ones that are having a very tough time, especially in the US, doing OTAs because of the amount of compute power and the amount of battery drain required. [2993.9s] Speaker 4: To do them."

Battery drain here refers to the power consumption that occurs while downloading and installing OTA updates. The speaker argues that modern vehicles can have enough compute demands that OTAs may be difficult to complete within short time windows, especially when the car’s power state isn’t ideal.

Concept

goodwill of their customers

"Tesla probably does it the best in terms of having the goodwill of their customers. Most others don't really have that goodwill that sort of oh good I get a new feature coming."

“Goodwill” means customers trust the company enough to feel okay waiting for improvements. If a brand has a reputation for updates, people expect new features instead of getting upset.

Brand

Tesla

"Tesla probably does it the best in terms of having the goodwill of their customers. Most others don't really have"

Tesla is mentioned as a company whose customers are more willing to wait for new features because they’ve gotten used to software updates improving the car over time.

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AI layers

"And so having the AI pieces take care. Of that most of those most of those issues could be dealt with if you did have essentral compute and an STV, but then you had AI layers on that in configurations and in being able to learn what's happening and adjust the vehicle without needing to go off."

“AI layers” means adding smarter software on top of the car’s main computer. That smarter software can learn from what the car is doing and help adjust things more safely.

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STV

"Of that most of those most of those issues could be dealt with if you did have essentral compute and an STV, but then you had AI layers on that in configurations"

STV appears to be an acronym for a vehicle compute/processing element in the speaker’s architecture discussion, paired with “essential compute.” Without the full expansion in the excerpt, it’s best understood as a specific in-vehicle system that supports the AI/configuration approach described.

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cloud

"You also need some cloud But so there is OTAs but it's just not in the way that it is today."

“Cloud” here means remote computers online. They can analyze data from many cars and help send updates back to your vehicle.

Term

ADS

"And I mean ADS is an obvious one, but that if you can correct an error or a problem, then that's a benefit, right."

ADS means the car’s autonomous-driving software system. Because it affects safety, updates to it usually have stricter limits than normal infotainment apps.

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configuration layer

"It doesn't go really into the source code. It's into a configuration layer effectively, so it's not doing something that would require that would break come alligation rules or something like that."

A configuration layer is like the car’s “settings” layer. Instead of rewriting the whole program, you change parameters so the fix is safer and less risky.

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learning transmissions

"I mean, honestly, if you had you've had learning transmissions and other things that do a bit of."

“Learning transmissions” refers to transmission control systems that adapt over time based on driving behavior and sensor feedback. The speaker uses it as an example of machine-learning-style adaptation that’s already existed, then suggests extending that concept to a broader software layer.

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