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AAH #794 - Seven New US Assembly Plants, And Why That's A Problem

AAH #794 - Seven New US Assembly Plants, And Why That's A Problem

Autoline After Hours Jun 05, 2026 62 min
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About this episode

The hosts connect a headline about unused North American auto capacity to a bigger worry: seven new U.S. assembly plants may be overbuilt just as Chinese EV and connected-car policies reshape where volume goes. They debate how Canada’s EV import quota rules, tariff changes, and connected-vehicle restrictions could steer production toward Mexico or away from the U.S. The conversation also questions plant profitability, arguing tariffs alone won’t fix competitiveness—predictable industrial policy and supply-chain capacity matter.

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Concept

USMCA

"So are they backing away from USMCA. No, are they making themselves more independent by attracting investment."

USMCA is a trade agreement between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. It affects how easily cars and parts can be shipped and what tariffs or rules apply.

Term

duty

"In the case of Mexico at fifty percent duty on Chinese imports, Chinese are going to want to hold markets here."

A “duty” is basically a tax on imported cars. If the duty is high, imported cars cost more, which can slow sales and change who wins the market.

Term

quota system

"It's a very unique kind of quota system some like remember the original Japanese these determine who was going to get to come in in terms of the imports into the United States, this is completely different."

A quota system is a rule that caps or controls how many cars can come in. It’s basically the government saying, “Only certain amounts and certain types can enter,” and it decides who qualifies.

Term

landed imported price

"The import the landed imported price has to be thirty five thousand dollars or lower with ten percent of those vehicles."

Landed imported price means the full cost after the car arrives in the country, including shipping and import fees. It’s the “all-in” price used to decide whether the car qualifies.

Term

battery electric

"But remember the whole quota system is based on battery electric hybrid plug in hybrid, and there's no quota or one hundred percent duty on gasoline versions."

Battery electric vehicles are cars that run only on electricity from a battery. No gas engine is involved, and that matters here because the rules are based on the type of powertrain.

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plug in hybrid

"But remember the whole quota system is based on battery electric hybrid plug in hybrid, and there's no quota or one hundred percent duty on gasoline versions."

A plug-in hybrid can run on electricity and also has a gas engine. You can charge it from a plug, and that’s why it’s included in the rules being discussed.

Place

Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver

"Yes, but they'll be they'll be battery electric wheels Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver."

Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver are big Canadian cities. The host is basically saying these are the places where the battery-electric cars would end up being sold.

Brand

b y D

"They'll they'll send me a note and say, what is a b y D or what is a and they they are often complimenting. Ten years ago they look at them, they're funny."

BYD is a Chinese company that makes cars, especially electric ones. The hosts mention it because people in Texas are starting to notice BYD vehicles and ask what they are.

Term

Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act

"Just this week, just this week, Congresswoman Haley Stevens and US Senator Alyssa Slotkin announced the Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act. ... the whole purpose of this is to prohibit connected vehicles from China and other adversarial nations from in the United States."

This is a proposed U.S. law meant to limit Chinese cars from being sold or used in the country. The key idea is that it targets connected cars—vehicles that can communicate over networks like cell service.

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connected vehicles

"the whole purpose of this is to prohibit connected vehicles from China and other adversarial nations from in the United States. This includes connected vehicles manufacturer designed in China, as well as vehicles manufactured by a Chinese company..."

Connected vehicles are cars that can communicate with the internet or networks using built-in hardware. That lets them do things like remote updates, tracking, or sending vehicle data back to the manufacturer.

Term

fifteen percent steak

"as well as vehicles manufactured by a Chinese company or an entity in which Chinese companies have a greater than fifteen percent steak, which."

The law being discussed uses a percentage cutoff—if a Chinese company has more than a certain ownership share, the car could be treated differently under the rules. Here, “stake” means an ownership/control percentage.

Brand

Mercedes

"which also could cause a problem for Mercedes because there are two companies b A."

Mercedes is a well-known luxury car brand from Germany. The hosts bring it up because the proposed law might affect it depending on ownership or business connections.

Concept

bipartisan support

"No, no, no, I think some versions is going Oh yes, because it's bipartisan support. You know, you mentioned the two Democrats behind it..."

Bipartisan support means people from both political parties are backing the same idea. The hosts mention it because it can make a bill more likely to move forward.

Term

data protection

"But Warren, you just raised the point the Trump administration just blessed Volvo for using Chinese hardware and software in its cars because they convinced Commerce that they've got data protection and it's not going to China and it's cyber this and that and the other thing."

“Data protection” means keeping a car’s information secure. Here it’s being used to argue that the car’s connected systems won’t share sensitive data with the wrong place.

Brand

Volvo

"But Warren, you just raised the point the Trump administration just blessed Volvo for using Chinese hardware and software in its cars because they convinced Commerce that they've got data protection and it's not going to China and it's cyber this and that and the other thing."

Volvo is a car company that sells cars around the world. Here, they’re being discussed because the U.S. government allowed Volvo to use Chinese tech in its cars, based on claims about protecting data and cybersecurity.

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Commerce

"So what I wonder about the. Commerce Department saying everything's okay, okay, What."

“Commerce” here means a U.S. government department that deals with trade and business rules. The discussion says they accepted Volvo’s argument about protecting data when using Chinese technology.

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cyber equipment

"What would prevent a pacifica let's say, full of all kinds of cyber equipment coming over the you know, the Ambassador Bridge or the Gordy Howe Bridge, or the or the tunnel and just sending scads of data back to China as a manufacturer, either as an individual, Yes, I don't know what would happen, but my guess is you'd be amazed at how much stuff is actually tracked."

In this context, “cyber equipment” means the electronics in a modern car that connect to networks and send/receive data. The worry is that those systems could be used to send sensitive information overseas.

Car

Chrysler Pacifica

"...okay, okay, What. Speaker 3: What would prevent a pacifica let's say, full of all kinds of cyber equipment c..."

The Chrysler Pacifica is a minivan, which is a family-focused car with a lot of room inside. Because it has flexible seating and a large cargo area, it can be used to carry extra items or equipment. That’s why someone might talk about filling one with gear and still having space to use it.

Place

Ambassador Bridge

"What would prevent a pacifica let's say, full of all kinds of cyber equipment coming over the you know, the Ambassador Bridge or the Gordy Howe Bridge, or the or the tunnel and just sending scads of data back to China as a manufacturer, either as an individual, Yes, I don't know what would happen, but my guess is you'd be amazed at how much stuff is actually tracked."

The Ambassador Bridge is a big bridge that connects the U.S. and Canada and is used a lot by trucks. They mention it to illustrate how cars could cross into the U.S. from Canada.

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Gordy Howe Bridge

"What would prevent a pacifica let's say, full of all kinds of cyber equipment coming over the you know, the Ambassador Bridge or the Gordy Howe Bridge, or the or the tunnel and just sending scads of data back to China as a manufacturer, either as an individual, Yes, I don't know what would happen, but my guess is you'd be amazed at how much stuff is actually tracked."

The Gordie Howe Bridge is another bridge between the U.S. and Canada used by trucks. They mention it as part of the example of where cars could cross into the U.S.

Term

Justice Department

"and especially if it was encrypted, they would know instantly and then when I say they, I mean the they, the grand A, the authorities. Yeah, well whoever, you know, the Justice Department, whoever."

The “Justice Department” is the U.S. government’s law-enforcement and prosecution agency. They’re mentioned as the kind of authority that could investigate or act if there’s wrongdoing involving data transmission.

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blocking Chinese cars

"Speaker 2: This is before this legislation that we just talked about blocking Chinese cars. You know, under the Biden administration, Commerce"

They’re talking about government rules meant to limit Chinese-made cars from being sold in the U.S. The goal is usually to protect domestic automakers or address concerns about competition and compliance.

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regulations banning Chinese tech hardware and software

"Speaker 2: ...under the Biden administration, Commerce came out with regulations banning Chinese tech hardware and software."

They’re describing rules that restrict some Chinese technology—both the physical parts and the software. For cars, that can matter because modern vehicles use lots of electronics and apps to connect to networks and services.

Topic

five major assembly plants coming on stream

"Speaker 7: Remember we've got us now I took my Candida head off for a moment here. The United States has five major assembly plants coming on stream in the next three years."

They’re talking about new car factories that are expected to start producing cars. “Coming on stream” just means the factory is finally up and running.

Concept

financial returns

"Speaker 5: I said here a couple of show in terms of the financial returns, right right, right, Yeah, that's a different topic."

They’re talking about whether building new factories actually makes money. The question is whether the investment will pay off instead of just costing a lot upfront.

Term

body on frame

"“...a quiet little battle between the Kia side and the Hyundai side as to who is actually going to go first with all those body on frame products. But they're all going to get basically versions of the same thing...”"

“Body on frame” means the car’s body sits on a separate metal frame underneath. It’s a common design for pickups because it’s strong and can handle work-duty use.

Concept

offset imports

"“...you’re adding these seven plants... We don’t know how much do they offset imports? Because what I’m getting at is the market is growing...”"

It means the new factories are supposed to make cars that would have been imported instead. So the US-made cars “take the place” of foreign cars in sales.

Concept

market share

"“...all of the ones that have existing plants making and selling existing vehicles, they’re going to lose market share.”"

Market share is how much of all car sales a company gets. If one company sells more, others usually sell less.

Brand

GM

"“...I would be would gee im would be a big loser.”"

GM is a large US automaker. The speaker is arguing GM could lose sales if the new factories don’t create new demand.

Brand

Rivian

"“So you talked about the Rivian plant, Okay, the Georgia operation you’re going to be doing...”"

Rivian is an electric-car company. The episode brings up Rivian’s factory plans to question whether there will be enough buyers.

Brand

Vin Fast

"“...you talked about Scout, Okay, you talked about vin Fast, Okay, you talked about eight right.”"

VinFast is an electric-vehicle company. The speakers mention it as one of the brands building new plants and worry there may be too many cars chasing too few buyers.

Brand

Scout

"“...you talked about the Rivian plant... you talked about Scout, Okay...”"

Scout is a vehicle brand mentioned in the context of new factory plans. The point is that more brands are building plants, and the market may not be big enough for all of them.

Concept

excess capacity

"“So I look at those four plants, and it seems to me that there’s going to be a whole lot of excess capacity just in those four plants...”"

It means the factories could be able to build more cars than people actually want to buy. When that happens, companies may have to discount or produce less.

Brand

eight

"“...you talked about Scout, Okay, you talked about vin Fast, Okay, you talked about eight right.”"

The transcript says “eight,” but it’s not clear which car company that refers to. It’s mentioned as one of several new-plant players in the same list.

Brand

Toyota

"“...I will go back and say Tellyota and Honda will fill those plants...”"

Toyota is a big car company. The discussion suggests Toyota could end up selling enough cars to use capacity that other brands can’t.

Brand

Honda

"“...Tellyota and Honda will fill those plants, and that’s going to come out of somebody’s...”"

Honda is a major car brand. The host is saying Honda could sell enough cars to make use of new factory capacity.

Concept

overcapacity

"[2334.1s] has really is a breakthrough. Maybe the Chinese start running [2339.1s] into a situation where they can't depend on Beijing to essentially prop them up, with the local governments to prop them up, and that having massive overcapacity starts. [2350.0s] Speaker 5: To overwhelm them."

Overcapacity means there’s too much factory production compared to what people are actually buying. When that happens, companies may have to lower prices just to keep making cars.

Term

tariffs

"[2350.0s] Speaker 7: Well, yeah, if if you don't use tariffs as your only tool in the kit, and you really do have a rational USMCA and you do put things in place, you know, not this knife to the next stuff that Biden did."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported products. The point being made is that the US shouldn’t rely only on those taxes to protect its auto industry.

Term

tool anddie

"[2377.5s] place that says, no, we're going to make the North American region of powerhouse. Okay for those that exist here [2385.8s] and those that are going to build here through like I said, tool anddie stuff, battery and magnet stuff. [2391.9s] Speaker 5: That you have that in house to be able to do."

Tool and die are the specialized machines and molds factories use to make car parts. The point here is that the US needs more of that know-how and equipment, not just final assembly.

Term

subsidized

"[2402.9s] Speaker 5: Okay that I have. [2404.6s] Speaker 7: All been subsidized one way or another, no matter what some of my colleagues in the industry say, whether that's loan forgiveness, that's. [2412.3s] Speaker 5: An incentive, that's a subpodye. Right, you pick one. If"

Subsidized means the government helps pay for part of a company’s costs. The host is saying Chinese car makers may have advantages because they receive more help than competitors.

Concept

industrial policy

"I just don't do do you see with this administration anyone who seems to have a clear sense of industrial pub beyond tariffs. It seems like everybody with with the..."

Industrial policy is when the government tries to help certain industries grow or compete. Here, the debate is whether the administration is doing more than just using tariffs.

Concept

strategy

"Do, but it's not the kind of industrial policy, And I don't even like calling it industrial policy. I call it strategy. Let's have a strategy to make our industry competitive..."

Here, “strategy” means a bigger plan than one-off actions. The speaker thinks the U.S. doesn’t have a clear, coordinated approach to stay competitive.

Term

fuel economy standards

"The Trump administration argues differently, tariffs is one. The reduction in emissions and fuel economy standards. It sees as supporting the industry."

Fuel economy standards are rules that push car companies to make cars that use less fuel on average. To comply, manufacturers often redesign engines or add hybrid/electric tech.

Term

emissions

"The Trump administration argues differently, tariffs is one. The reduction in emissions and fuel economy standards. It sees as supporting the industry."

Emissions are the harmful gases a car puts into the air. Rules about emissions can push automakers to redesign engines and add cleaner technology.

Term

Euro six, Euro seven, Euro twenty

"Europe, Euro six, Euro seven, Euro twenty, China some of the toughest emission standards coming into place."

“Euro” standards are rules in Europe that limit how dirty car exhaust can be. Higher “Euro” numbers mean stricter limits, so car makers have to engineer cleaner cars.

Concept

designing for the US versus designing for the rest of the world

"And these guys are now having to face the prospect of designing for the US versus designing for the rest of the world."

Different countries can have different rules for what cars are allowed to emit. If the rules don’t match, car makers may have to build different versions for different places.

Company

General Motors

"No. I lived at General Motors through the order through delivery."

General Motors (GM) is one of the major US automakers, and the speaker references working there “through the order through delivery.” That context is used to argue about how vehicle orders translate into real production and deliveries—important when discussing new plant commitments and demand forecasts.

Term

electric vehicles

"E revs and electric vehicles okay. And Nissan, Nissan, Toyota, Audi."

Electric vehicles are cars that run on electricity stored in batteries. Instead of using gasoline, they charge the battery and drive using electric motors.

Term

battery stuff

"Biden had like the battery stuff, the charging stuff, all of that. There were great ideas inside of that policy."

“Battery stuff” means policies and investments that help build EV batteries and the supply chain around them. The discussion is about whether those investments still make sense as the market changes.

Term

charging stuff

"Biden had like the battery stuff, the charging stuff, all of that. There were great ideas inside of that policy."

Charging stuff is about the infrastructure for plugging in EVs. It includes building and supporting charging stations so people can actually charge their cars.

Term

bed of installation

"Right saying that you have to be fifty four percent otherwise we're going to kill you in terms of, you know, bed of installation."

This phrase sounds like a mis-transcription, but the idea is that the policy had specific rules about where things get built or installed. Companies had to meet those rules to benefit.

Term

energy storage

"By the way. With the battery we were seeing a lot of the battery plants remain in the plans even though the correct all the usage for evs is gone. Is there a practical use as they're shifting over to energy storage?"

Energy storage means saving electricity for later instead of using it immediately. Batteries can store power when it’s available and release it when it’s needed.

Company

Ford

"Is there a practical use as they're shifting over to energy storage? Is that going to work for companies like Ford and Tesla and some of the others."

Ford is being mentioned as another car company that could be affected by battery production shifting toward storage. The idea is that batteries might be used for the power grid, not just cars.

Company

Tesla

"Is that going to work for companies like Ford and Tesla and some of the others. Well, I think especially out west, yes, where you know you still have brownouts and all of that stuff."

Tesla is an EV maker, and the hosts are saying it also has connections to battery technology beyond just cars. They’re using Tesla as an example of who might benefit if batteries are used for grid storage too.

Term

brownouts

"Well, I think especially out west, yes, where you know you still have brownouts and all of that stuff. No, Look,"

Brownouts are when the power grid can’t deliver full power, so lights and appliances may dim or performance drops. The hosts are saying battery storage could help stabilize the grid in those situations.

Term

four hundred volt architecture

"Most of the things are four hundred vold architecture still take you know, we haven't done anything. So look, it takes you twenty minutes to charge your vehicle..."

Electric cars use high-voltage electricity. A “400-volt architecture” means the car is built to run on a system around 400 volts, which helps determine how fast it can charge at fast-charging stations.

Term

fast charging stations

"So I'm more worried that we get to twenty thirty and the battery stuff has come in. But where's the. Widespread use of eight hundred volt architecture to use those fast charging stations to do it in five minutes."

Fast charging stations are public chargers meant to add a lot of electricity quickly. How fast you can charge also depends on your car—some EVs handle high-power charging better than others.

Brand

Stillantis

"They have BEV hybrid. I mean, what was Stillantis's whole pitch?"

“Stillantis” likely refers to Stellantis, a big car company that sells many brands. They’re being discussed in terms of their plan for electric and hybrid vehicles.

Term

powertrain

"Speaker 7: Yeah, the consumer will get to pick what powertrain that they want to put into their vehicle, depending upon the manufacturer."

A powertrain is what makes the car move. It includes the engine or electric motors and the parts that send that power to the wheels. Here, they mean buyers can choose what kind of “moving system” the car uses.

Term

BEV

"Speaker 7: Leap is a little different than the others, right, BEV hybrid, which is very popular."

BEV means a battery-electric car. It doesn’t use gasoline to move; it runs on electricity stored in a battery you charge. In the episode, they’re comparing BEVs to other types like hybrids.

Brand

Leap

"Speaker 7: Leap is a little different than the others, right, BEV hybrid, which is very popular."

Leap is a car brand mentioned in the episode as part of the discussion about Chinese EVs coming into Canada. The point is that not all brands offer the same mix of electric and hybrid options.

Place

Alberta

"Speaker 7: ...add a little ten percent gasoline in just to kind of round out somebody who wants to drive in Alberta, Okay, And it doesn't necessarily you know, Alberta is in the most popular place for electric vehicles."

Alberta is a province in Canada. The episode mentions it to talk about where electric and hybrid cars are likely to be wanted and how policies could affect who gets them.

Concept

first come, first served

"Speaker 7: The thing that they got to get out of is first come, first served, okay, which is what I talked about in the article."

“First come, first served” means whoever gets in line first gets the limited cars. The problem is it can be unfair and make it hard for dealers to plan, especially if the priority changes from year to year.

Term

dealer planning

"Speaker 5: First come, first served is not good dealer planning."

Dealer planning is how a car store figures out what cars to order and how to prepare for sales. The episode says the “first come, first served” approach makes that harder because dealers can’t predict what they’ll be able to get.

Brand

Geely

"Speaker 7: ...the next year we let in Geelee, the third year we let in a little more Tesla."

Geely is a car brand from China. The episode brings it up as another example of a manufacturer that might be affected by changing import rules and dealer access.

Term

allocation

"Speaker 7: If you're a B y D dealer, You're going to want to know what's your allocation."

Allocation is how many cars a dealer is allowed to get from a limited supply. If you know your allocation, you can plan inventory and sales. The episode says dealers need this clarity to avoid uncertainty.

Term

voluntary export respect

"Speaker 5: Just at the Genuary when we had voluntary export respect?"

This sounds like a misheard phrase, but the idea is a trade rule where one country agrees to limit how many goods it ships to another. In the episode, it’s referenced to connect past trade limits to today’s car import limits.

Concept

dealer network

"Speaker 6: Do you do a dealer network? ... Speaker 5: Well you could. Again, are you just sticking the big cities?"

A dealer network is the chain of car stores that sell and service a brand’s vehicles. The episode is asking whether there will be enough dealers if many brands are competing for limited sales.

Place

Ottawa

"Speaker 7: I think Montreal, I think Toronto, I think Vancouver, I think Ottawa."

Ottawa is Canada’s capital city. It’s mentioned as one of the main places where dealerships would likely be set up if brands can’t support lots of locations.

Term

lift rot

"Speaker 5: Exactly, that's right, I'll go. So basically you have to [3566.4s] lift rot. [3568.8s] Speaker 7: Was it was?"

This sounds like “lift off,” meaning you take your foot off the gas. The car then slows down using the engine’s drag and grip, not by pressing the brake pedal.

Term

two speed transmission

"Speaker 3: It was he had no brakes on this thing. So [3572.6s] basically what it was was that you know, you would you would shift it was two speed transmission. Oh he [3577.1s] had a trans even, so you would shift to the lower gear and then lift on the throttle and let friction do."

A “two speed transmission” is a gearbox with only two gear choices. If the brakes fail, dropping to a lower gear and easing off the gas can help slow the car using the engine and friction instead.

Term

front brakes

"Speaker 2: Interesting little sideline to breaks. Most cars did not have [3592.2s] front brakes until around nineteen twenty because the theory back then was if you had front brakes and you slammed on the bridge, the car would cartwheel down the road. [3603.7s] So it was like, don't put front brakes on now."

“Front brakes” are brake hardware on the front axle. Historically, many early cars relied more on rear braking, and the speaker claims front brakes became common around 1920 because of concerns that hard braking could cause the car to “cartwheel” (rotate/flip) during panic stops.

Term

cartwheel down the road

"Speaker 2: Interesting little sideline to breaks. Most cars did not have [3592.2s] front brakes until around nineteen twenty because the theory back then was if you had front brakes and you slammed on the bridge, the car would cartwheel down the road. [3603.7s] So it was like, don't put front brakes on now."

That phrase is describing a scary scenario where the car might tip or flip during very hard braking. It’s an old argument against front brakes based on stability fears.

Brand

Car Collective

"Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, Gary, if I can mention you are a part of it. Actually, he came up with the [3648.1s] name the Car Collective, and people who want to uh check it out, you can go to the Car Collective dot stubstack dot com."

“Car Collective” is the name of an automotive publication the speaker is promoting. They describe it as a mix between a normal car magazine and a modern newsletter platform.

Brand

Headlight dot news

"Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, Gary, if I can mention you are a part of it. Actually, he came up with the [3648.1s] name the Car Collective, and people who want to uh check it out, you can go to the Car Collective dot stubstack dot com. I'm still running Headlight dot news, [3661.1s] but the Car Collective is great because it's sort of a halfway between a traditional automotive magazine and the very cool things you can do with substack."

This is the name of a website the speaker says they still run. It’s an automotive media outlet mentioned alongside their other project.

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