Alpine A110 Review; "Can I Drive on This?"; 15 Yrs of TST

What's up, folks? Welcome to the Smogentire Podcast. My name is Matt Ferrin. Today, me and Zach are talking about homes for kittens. No, really. We got homes for the kittens. Also, we're reviewing the Alpine A110. We're laughing at some hilarious mechanical mishaps on Reddit. We're talking about the dates. We're coming to Texas to do live shows, talking about the Trumps big, beautiful build, neutering cafe standards, and we have some fabulous

questions from our patrons, plus it's Zach's 15-year anniversary with the Smogentire, and we're remembering his sacrifices for the company.

I can see that. But I know you may have fun corners of Reddit, for sure. But you have to go find them because all it wants to show me is the same clickbait shit.

I mean, welcome to the algorithmic community. Yeah. Hi, everybody. This is the show. Interesting day. There's an Aston Martin press launch happening outside at WCCS today, which is a nice thing. I can't take part in it, obviously. But I think Zach is going to take part in it tomorrow, and we'll give us a report on what CarPlay Ultra is like in the DBX 707.

And then what they said to me was, you know that roadster that you came to Palm Springs and drove, if you want to make a video about that, because you didn't, CarPlay Ultra will be in that in like three weeks.

Aren't you getting that car for the road and track you think? Yeah, but that's in September. So that, oh, and it's going to be up north. And so I wasn't going to make a video. But like if we wanted to do something, we get that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Yeah. I realized that I should have put a no strings.

We in the contract for the facility rental. I realized I definitely should have put. I would like a no strings DBX for a week. And they were like, yeah, I would say that's a missed opportunity from you.

Other people have asked for that. But yeah, welcome. Am I talking in an iPad right now? Are we okay? Now we're fine. Okay. There are things that happened this week.

And a couple of them are really good. For instance, Michael, Tio Van Runkle adopted all three of the kittens that we found and sent me Instagram approved pictures, which is fantastic.

I really a lot of people inquired about the kittens, but I really wanted them to go to a home together if possible. When they're that young and that that bonded, I think it's really to their benefit to stay together if possible.

And yeah, he and his wife, I don't know if they're married. I'm sorry, Ibi, whatever they are, they live together. They're fabulous. And they're very excited. And the cats seem to have acclimated to their home real fast. Nice. They're so pretty. And they're really, really, really sweet, unbelievably good around humans for cats that were just found.

So that's awesome. Took one day. Couldn't believe it. I see no wedding bands. So I think girlfriend.

Thank you. Clapman kittens are adorable. I mean, all small animals are. But yeah.

Adult cats. Also adorable. At times, yes. They have more attitude. Also stressful.

Today, I was driving from Beverly Hills to Gardina and Monty chased a squirrel over my back wall that I was sure he couldn't do. And Hannah called me in a panic. And I couldn't help because I was so far away. There was just no way I could get there in time to be of any real service.

And she was able to get him. But man, was that it was very stressful for her. It was very stressful for me to know about it and not be able to do anything. But she did get him back. It took about 25 minutes.

I never thought it because you explained like the cat jumped over onto a fence on the other side. It couldn't jump back.

Most of the time, I think a cat knows how to get home. It can find its way because your old cat Eddie would want to the return. Yeah.

But you get this. Monty got himself in a pickle. You know, I know what I'm sure that he couldn't find his way. There isn't. He would have a very hard time finding his way back. The wall is not equal.

Right. My neighbor's house behind me is significantly lower than mine. And so on a wall at my place, there's a flat level ground to a wall.

Immediately on the other side of that wall is a very steep drop down. Getting from San Diego into Mexico much faster than getting back.

Yes. So we got him. Oh boy. But what's the date today? The 25th? Yes. Okay. Do you know what June 20th, five days ago was? No.

It was according to what is generally considered to be the first significant smoking tire video, your 15th anniversary with the company.

When you and Thaddeus met the first time and drove those BMWs to various together. Yeah. That was June 10th, 2010. That was the, that was 2010. Wow. That was a VF engineering car. Yeah. That was quite a trip. That was nuts.

Air July 1st, 2010. There were vehicles before that. Yeah. But, but the production of that video was your first involvement with the video team. Really? Yeah. Wow.

15 years. Wow. 15 years, five days ago. Cool. Where does it go? Where does the time go indeed? Yeah. That was quite a start to. Yeah. Supercharged. Both of them were supercharged, right?

You were the 92 that had like this airfoil body. You know, a wide body with air force livery on it. It was. Yeah. It was a little.

Like true fighter jet. It's a warbird ship. And then the silver E46 was like. Yeah. Very basic looking. Yeah. But I think it had a dinin suspension.

And then it had a snail supercharger on it. Also. And I was like, Zach, this is Thaddeus. You guys follow me.

Yep. Me and Tom were in the black E92. And then we're going to Vegas in these cars. You've never met this person. Yup. Correct.

And you're correct. Worked out. Look, you open a door. And Thaddeus 64 260 with tattoos. He's like, you're riding with me. Yeah. And I'm like, all right. And then when we get on the, what is it? The 135 going from when you exit the freeway.

Yeah. It's been in Baker. You stop and get a best gyro USA because, of course, as is tradition. And then you learn 20 miles an hour.

Better have a full tank because you then are going across death valley. Very, very fast. Very fast.

Well, someone you didn't really know, which is one of the great drives though. One of the great drives from Los Angeles is, is going once you exit that freeway.

And you get to cross death valley to get to spring mountain. And they're ain't fucking nobody out there. And you can stick that motherfucker at 140 and do these nice sweepers.

And you're not like in danger. Anybody. You're just enjoying wide open Merca. Don't want to get rid of that. I think I found the car. David Zipper won't like me saying that, but you know me and David Zipper get along on other things.

Is that it? Was that it? I think. Oh, that is it. Yeah, that is it. Yeah, wow. Look at that.

For people listening, this has like, it has the star on that covers the whole door like, you know, an F15 wood.

Yeah. And it's got, it looks more like a non-chopper actually. It's got that stenciled in, you know, pie the, who's the pilot on the side?

I had danger exhaust above the exhaust. It's so wide. That was cool.

Yeah, yeah. Because then we got there and then we drove a supercharged 996 in an R8 kind of neat. That was the craziest.

I mean, as far as shoots go, it still holds up as a very good one. That does hold up as that kind of if you provided free track time and all of those cars,

that would still get me to your racetrack today. Yeah. That's still what? Yeah. Supercharged 911. Yeah. It's a good car.

That's fucking straight downhill from there. Is that ever happened again?

Well, Purump's gotten better. The money's gotten better.

And then worse. And then worse. And then worse. And then much better. And then worse.

But back then was like, you know, sleeping in the motel floor.

No, yeah. No, I think, I don't know if people, I think we should probably take a minute to talk about Zach's early sacrifices for the company.

Which like when you're, you know, when you're 26 and like, you know, you can be paid an alcohol.

It doesn't take much for any of us to go to work, including myself. But like, I was 28.

I think you were probably 28, 28.

Yeah. We were the same thing. So you're, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. There was some, you definitely slept on some motel floors.

Well, the joke, true, the true joke that Tom would say was will work for sandwiches.

Yeah. Because for, for literal years, and was, we all knew what we were doing.

Like this is essentially we're all trying to get into entertainment media.

And we know you have to do it for free. And all of us were fine with that.

Everybody was fine. Yeah. All of us.

Like I took side gigs and put the money into the smoking tire too.

Yeah. Like everyone kind of did. Yeah.

Yeah. But you did sleep on some motel floors.

You also rode for pretty long distances in the back seat of my short cab Raptor.

I did. Yeah. And that was back when you chain smoked.

Oh, yeah. I would go home to my parents.

We were four up for us. Me and Thad were in the front and you and Tom were in the back.

Yeah. And Tom would edit.

And I'd go home to Santa Cruz and my mom would go, do you smoke cigarettes?

I said, no. But Matt doesn't. And she didn't believe me.

She was like, I think you smoke. I'm like, I'm telling you mom.

I'm getting. Oh, I wish I could have called her.

And like, no, that was me.

You know, that phone call would go.

Man. Yeah.

That's something you don't like to learn about yourself later.

But it was, you know, second, you know, you knew you knew that you smoked.

You were there. I did. And still to this day, there's nothing I like better in life

than a road trip and cigarettes.

I haven't said cigarettes since 20.

I was thinking of this the other day.

Do you think that your in-car coffee consumption has followed the similar pattern

and ritual of getting in car with cigarette or getting out of car?

You know, because you know how those there's those triggers.

So yeah. So when you go to your car, you like, I have to fill up my pink cup.

No, no, no. It's not like that.

Those, it's the in reference to, and I got a couple of nice emails about my panic attack

that I talked about in the show.

No, it's just when you're doing like, when you're starting at 7 a.m.

and you're doing nine hours and you're by yourself.

And you're just listening to podcasts and sipping.

Yeah.

You know, it's just a nice thing and it's easy to get, you know,

to not keep track of actually how many ounces of coffee.

I couldn't tell you how many ounces my pink cup is.

It's probably bigger than probably 16, maybe 20.

Yeah.

So you fill that thing up twice and have two cups before that.

Woo!

If it's 16, that's two full cups of coffee.

So we're talking four cups at a minimum, six cups at a minimum, but possibly more.

Yeah.

That's a problem.

I've had no caffeine since Sunday.

Oh.

And here's what I can tell you.

I don't need caffeine at all.

Oh, nice.

At all.

For anything.

There's no reason for me to ever have caffeine.

Then you could just skip it.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

Yeah, that's a lesson to learn.

Anyway, that's, we went away from you and to me.

I'm sorry.

So early sacrifices include.

Sure.

Second hand smoke.

Working for no money.

It's like being a coal miner.

But like a ten-year-old coal miner.

Yeah.

They'll pay me a penny a day.

Sure.

But whatever.

And I think I was still waiting tables until we got the car show.

I was waiting tables like during the week.

That was 2011.

Yep.

So it was like a year or so of that.

Yeah.

Well, I was writing for the website in 2009.

Oh, before that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sure.

Yeah, that's true.

We could have celebrated this a year ago, but I didn't.

Our articles weren't archives.

But that video, though, was a better celebration.

It is.

It was a super-charged track day.

I think so.

Yeah.

Wow.

And you did, uh, yeah, you didn't have to sleep in the kitchen

of the house.

Like that did.

You did.

You were above that.

I did, because I had, by then I got other writing side gigs.

And I started working for JF.

Yeah.

I had a bunch of stuff going on.

Yeah.

And Fad was like just doing JF stuff.

So he had to sleep in the kitchen.

Yeah.

But you did, I think, you probably did more work for free than anybody.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Maybe.

I don't know.

You used to pay me cash to write for the site.

Yeah.

What?

But then I sure, I think we pay, I think I paid you like something

for doing something at some point.

I think we paid you what we could, which was not.

Everyone always got paid what was possible.

I mean, you and Tom, you know, covered more of the stuff

because like Tom was editing.

So he got paid first.

And then it depended on what you were doing.

And now that you understand why that's was one way or percent.

And I understand why you paid yourself when you edited

all the one-take videos.

Yeah.

It's a grind.

Yeah.

Totally.

But it was all in an effort to get somewhere and we got that place.

Yeah.

Like the snowball just keeps going as long as you keep pushing it.

It's just funny that the goalposts did change.

I mean, the beginning it was we wanted to get a TV show.

And then we got a TV show.

We're like, actually.

Totally.

It's complicated.

Actually TV is for suckers.

Yeah.

So.

Unless it's your third show and your agent negotiates it well.

And even then it's complicated, but at least you'll get paid.

Yeah.

But, you know, usually if, unless you're,

unless you're like a genius,

unless you're Guy Fieri or Anthony Bourdain or Clarkson and Wilman,

you know, you're, you're, you're not able to negotiate that kind of TV deal

in America in the 2010s and up.

Yeah.

I think 2020 is just really hard.

Now it's 20s from 2010s.

Yeah.

They were definitely some shrewd EPs that were like getting paid way too much.

Oh, EPs.

Yeah.

But like not the people on camera.

No, no, no.

Like you said, you have to be experienced enough to realize you've gotten fucked twice

and then you go, if you want me on the show and now I have a big enough name to do it,

here's what I want.

That is what I started saying to people, never on TV.

Seriously.

It's literally people like, you just stand up for yourself and I did and I was out.

Yeah.

Do you feel better having stood up for yourself?

A hundred percent.

Right.

There you go.

A hundred percent.

I decided when I rather be rich or famous and I decided if I was going to be famous,

it was only as a means to being rich.

Right.

If I can fucking park cars and be a little famous from this fucking thing,

well, that's just better.

Yeah.

Under your control, too.

It's better versus under a TV show.

We can go to a place and be minor celebrities and then leave that place and be nobody's again.

And that's a fucking great place to be in your life.

Yeah.

You don't want to be stopped on the street by everybody.

You want to be stopped once a day.

That's a, that's ideal.

Yeah.

I agree.

But, uh, man, I wonder where that car is.

If it still exists, that's supercharged M3.

If that car still exists, I never, you know how many times you'll request us to drive the same car again later.

That car is the only car I would do it.

Oh, that'd be cool.

We should hit up Nick.

He might know where it is.

Yeah.

He doesn't still own it, certainly, but he might know where it is.

I don't know.

That wide body VF engineering M3.

It's got nine owners now.

I don't like this.

Shit.

Florida title.

But Montana tags.

What?

Yeah.

Um, and so that's why I had Morgan bring you these quadroteinies.

I don't know what these are made of.

They're great.

So in honor of, uh, in honor of Zach, he gets to control, he's gets to, he gets to produce for the next bit.

You had some, you had some things that you found that you thought were fun to talk about.

I thought about a little bit for us.

All my things on my list are like depressing.

I have good things.

You should do the good things.

And then we can talk about the Alpine A110 because the video is going up tomorrow.

And by the time the show goes up, everyone will have seen the video.

Got it.

Okay.

We can do that.

Uh, someone is trying to sell their old career GT tires.

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Now I want you to look at this. They're old. I think. Well, they're Michelin pilot super sports. Yeah, that's old. That's old, right?

Uh-huh. So with 2K gentle road miles for $2500.

Now, is this someone who's saying, Hey, if you have a museum quality career GT, should you buy these to put it on there?

Or do they just not know what tires are worth? Is my guess. My guess is there's someone out there who has a collector grade one that wants to put it on the original tires.

And he might he's fishing. He may not get it, but like I kind of look, is there any reason to do that?

No, it's not like an 80s tire that looks interesting. It's just a fucking PSS in there are.

Like there's probably a hundred cars, a hundred literal individual cars on the planet where their individual tires matter.

And none of them are mass produced cars. Like if there's a car where.

Erickson, a one is last race. And it's on as. Absolutely. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

If it's a production sports car, nobody gives a shit. No one cares. Nobody. Because everyone's looking at the car, especially when it's a CGT, like stunning car.

No one's going, that's all right, but these tires are gorgeous. Yeah, you mean it. Maybe, maybe someone buys them for a few hundred bucks.

They get bagged up shoved in the back of the warehouse. And when they go to sell their own career GT, they go by the way comes with original tires.

Sure. What else are they good for? Yeah, but I don't, but $2,500 seems way too high for tires you should not drive on.

Yeah, I don't even know if you'd find many shops that are that are able to mount those without damaging them.

20-year-old tires, they probably rip them apart. Fall apart like one of these crackers.

I don't know. You know what? It's like, I respect the ask, I guess.

I guess, you know, he might actually get some money for them. But if I had a career GT, I mean, look, I have an old expensive car. I don't give a fuck about original tires. I don't want them to get them out of here.

I want the tires that are on the car to be good. And beyond that, tires are a waste of space.

So one of our very frequent listeners, Dan McKinnis, says he knows this person because they're in Colorado.

And this person does not, they don't need the $2,500. They probably don't know what these should be worth.

And they're just like, I just trying to get rid of these tires.

I like that, you know, it's like Joe Rogan saying Elon Musk won't fuck us because he's already so rich he doesn't need the money.

It's like that. People that are that rich trust me. I know are always trying to find a way to get $12 out of somebody like me.

It's a good point because they do it every month. And four amounts that are literally $12.

Are you saying rich people want more money or power mass more than they have?

No, they already have everything. Why would they want more?

Yeah, it's crazy. You can't fill a cup up more than that.

And then we have this little story that popped up.

Oh, no. Cargo ship carrying more than 3,000 cars is now abandoned off coast of Alaska. It is on fire.

Is this the one that was on fire this story is weeks ago?

This is 10 days old. I just heard about it.

Yeah, I got it. Yes, so I do.

It caught fire June 3rd.

Yeah. And this story in June 12th, it's like, it's still on fire, but it hasn't sunk yet.

I think it took the Felicity Ace a week or so to sink maybe.

Wow. I think.

But yeah, I mean, if it's like a smolder.

You know, it hasn't gotten like maybe they're maybe they're spreading out the EVs now.

Yeah, they don't put them next to each other.

So the gas powered cars break it up a little bit.

Let's see, the ship with your car sank. It said it took two weeks.

Oh, it was two weeks that Felicity Ace to sink.

This one, it says EVs were on board, but they're not sure where the fire started.

I mean, is that smoke white or dark?

It's like a light gray.

No, this is very, I mean, look, this is very white.

Yeah, it's pretty white.

So, I don't know, but that's a, that's a thing that's happening.

All right, so this bit.

Here's the solution.

We're going to ship all EVs by air.

We're going to, I just drove by my hobby.

Yeah. A lot of 747s sitting out there.

We're going to recommission them all.

Every EV, it's coming in air.

You make the plane electric powered.

You plug the plane into the cars.

You fly it in the, because you have the battery pack.

Whoa.

This actually isn't a bad idea.

And then land and then you offload the cars.

You use the cars on board as a reverse polarity battery pack

to fly the E, but electric plane.

Like the Ford lightning.

We got to call somebody.

We should.

What are we called?

Pan pending.

EV, do we call the EV 12 people who we call?

Who's the smartest electric?

I got to call the Tiger and Seafolks.

They'll know.

They will know.

They'll know why this.

They'll know.

And this podcast is a record.

This is as good as mailing yourself.

This is live streamed.

It's as good as mailing yourself a stamped envelope.

Yeah.

With the idea in it.

This is like if you ship lawnmowers,

you just take the gas out of the lawnmowers.

And drive around.

And you get it there.

Here's your lawnmower.

We call engineers.

We also call.

Are you garbage?

Yeah, that's a good point.

If you've ever ran a hose from your lawnmower

and your truck bed into the actual gas cap,

and someone surely has.

Oh, yeah.

Now, remember we used to roll around

and got them with the fucking gas pump

in the back of the 3500?

Yeah, what are we just in case?

For the sprint.

For the auto process.

Yeah.

The whole operation is.

That's all right.

I don't want to talk about it on the record.

There's the action park of car experiences.

Yeah.

You just go past the way station.

Just go right past it.

That's funny.

All right.

So I follow a Reddit sub called Mechanics Advice.

And there are two main types of content

on Mechanics Advice that I love

that I told Matt about.

One is people put up estimates for their cars

for work being done and they're saying,

is this fair?

Yeah.

Great resource.

That sounds like advice that you would want to get

from a mechanic.

And it's a great resource for anyone who's listening.

The mechanics respond quickly.

They're fair.

They go, well, where do you live?

Yes, that's good.

No, you're getting ripped off.

Get a second opinion.

My other favorite content is called,

can I drive like this?

And these are really the two main things.

So what I've got is a little buffet for Matt.

And I just want to show that I drive like this.

What gets posted with can I drive like this?

Hell yeah.

And so we can play a game.

You could say, here's what's going on.

Do you think people said you can drive like this?

Or you can just look at it and enjoy.

So the first one's mild.

Can you come in plus a couple times and make this bigger?

Sure.

So everyone can enjoy it.

There we go.

So we got a bolt that fell off a brake caliper.

That seems like the part of the caliper has exited

another part of the caliper.

Yeah.

It's called a floating caliper.

And I love so many of them are like,

I heard a noise.

Because of course we do.

Floating caliper is a good joke.

I didn't mean to do that.

That's okay.

That is good.

Yeah.

Heard and noise and kept going.

So this person like, can I drive like this to a shop 10 miles away?

Our speed limits are 45 miles per hour.

Top response.

No way.

You're going to fuck something up.

Get a toe.

956 up votes.

Yeah.

Love it.

Right?

That's a toe truck.

Oh wait, there's a second picture though.

Is a second is this in the slide shows it?

Is there a better image that may be better described?

Yeah.

Oh, that's.

Yeah.

The entire caliper has come off.

Yeah.

It looks like on this.

Here's where the brake pad was.

And it is, for people who are listening,

there's all the rotor is showing.

The pad, the caliper is basically banging.

It's going to hang in his wheel.

No, hang on.

Is that rotor showing or is the, the brake pad stuck to the rotor

and the caliper has come off the pad?

This, to me, looks like polished rotor.

I don't know.

The texture changed there.

It looks like, yeah, I don't know.

My, my, Zach has gotten up to, to get a close.

He's literally walked up to the TV like your uncle.

I think the, no, I think what's happened there is that the pad

has stuck to the rotor and the caliper has ejected.

How old would that be?

That would be so loud.

Because this, the caliper is hanging against the wheel.

Oh man, yeah.

This, the pad is gonna go, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't get a, as it spins around.

Oh, no.

Here's the bit.

The bit is, we have to come up with the noise that we think they heard.

Sure.

Based on the photo.

That's the actual bit.

Okay.

This I hear, I think was catching.

Yeah, I think that's pretty good.

I think with the wheel, let's see, the wheel spinning counter clockwise.

Probably.

Yeah, I think I think it's like I think it's like grinding into the inside of the wheel.

Yeah, or the wheel is kicking the caliper against the rotor than it falls back.

So it's like oh yeah, and then they stopped.

That's right. Okay, next one.

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and now back to the show. There's a good little mystery one.

Someone says can I drive like this? I notice this the other day. I know it's

keep going down. I know I know it's pretty urgent fix to protect the suspension

but what is the risk if I drive it to work until payday?

One hour commute on curvy roads. What we're looking at is the bushing

where a control arm connects to I guess the subframe.

Yeah you're looking at where a bushing once was.

Yeah a little bit of too much space where the bushing should be.

What do you think? I think the bushing looks

a lot like a chantraelle mushroom not like a fucking suspension bushing.

Yeah it looks like something I'd find in the farmer's market and put in a pasta with garlic.

Yeah it's like it's like the inner

cloves of garlic you know it's no longer a bulb.

Yeah it's a vertical. A solo garlic clove and put it in a broiler for a couple of minutes

that's what you've got here.

Right and of course the control arm is very round like the mounting point so I don't think

you have enough bushing there. Now do you think they said you can drive or you can't drive?

I think that they said that you can drive but it will be terrible.

I think you're right if I recall I mean that's just this.

Completely drivable this is the most are we sorted by most by a best comment?

I think it just I think yeah it's auto-sorted I think is it?

So 51 of votes.

Completely drivable you will hear a clonk when accelerating and breaking you should absolutely repair it

yes but you can but you can drive on it.

Yeah I think you can drive on it it will just be awful.

It will just clonk around a bit and you're like you've made it this far.

So do you remember Zach let's go back to 09010 for a minute.

When I moved to Los Angeles I had I shipped my corvette my C5

and I drove across the country in my girlfriend Tracy's Volvo XC70 cross-country.

Do you remember that car?

Yeah.

It was the first gen cross-country it was actually an amazing car.

It had to this day some of the best seats I've ever sat in and even when we left New York this

mother-fucker had new bushings in it none and we drove all the way across the country

and everywhere and it was just and we finally got here and remember that place in her

most of each the Swedish Protek?

No it was a good okay if yours if you're Swedish and a mechanic you I guess are contractually

obliged to only work on all Swedish cars yeah and so it's a good good Volvo shop we took it there

and they gave us a bill for suspension it was like $7500 you know the car was worth like

three grand so I was like Trace you're going to drive this until you can't take it anymore and

then to the scrapper yeah until you get a concussion from good good good good yeah yeah suspension

labor is or suspension repairs it's just a lot of labor especially if you get a torch all right oh

what part is this is it safe to drive it is a very torn CV boot a axle boot

lot of rust around it also I mean it's rust belt folks yeah car looks generally shitty but there's a

hole about the size of a golf ball in the boot yeah yeah is it safe to drive I mean I would say

it's safe to drive like uh to the shop but it it's only going to get more expensive to fix the

longer you drive I think it's fine but it will obviously there's a boot on there for a reason

and if you leave it off it will cause a problem but it do what do people say safe to drive should

be changing soon okay well I'm glad that idiot me is at least agreeing with the top of the thing

I don't think that will really make a noise except um I don't know maybe if you're steering

just a little like a some grindy sort of like there's sand in there if the grease is gone or something

um yeah so all right now the last two are my favorites because one is called neighborhood found

this neighbor found this in my driveway oh my name so okay so this this person left their

home right went three hours away and a bit of they got a text from their neighbor that's like hey

found this coiled thing sitting in your driveway uh can I drive the car assuming its rear

springs not sure wow and it looks like one coil from a coil spring yeah I have a question sure

how would just that part of your coil spring come off your car I don't know I've read

further down this and there's not other it happens to people it does yeah

yeah shit um I would probably not over three hours from home I'd feel it out I would feel it out

I would I would drive the car incredibly gently and I would take exceptional care and if it felt

weird for like a second I would stop but I would probably try to baby at home and get it fixed

when I got home okay let's see uh top comment 600 make sure nothing's rubbing on the inside

wall of your tire first that's very good advice I recently had something similar and it carved a

large groove into the side wall of my brand new tire that's uh that is very good advice actually

that spring may have caught your shit up uh this is so funny no worries in the winter cars in the

wild shed unnecessary parts that's funny all right so here's the first I love this your

three hours already and didn't notice you're likely fine to get three hours back 67 I think on

the last show um on the last show were we talking about affliction shirts before after we went

live the off it was off here it was off there okay yes it was the girl that bought me the affliction

shirt yeah her car she had a first year Kia Rio and it was six years old or seven years old by

the time that I dated her and you've never seen anything fall apart like this now granted she

was not capable of taking care of a car and she lived in the Bronx and street parked it but like

like things were just like falling off it like all the time and she would drive it like it was a

regular ash car and I got it at once and I was like whoa like you need to be fucking careful because

like this is gonna happen and this is gonna happen she's like what and I was like this falling

apart and she was like she just I think it was like her obliviousness to it that somehow kept it

together the belief that's like uh it's very um what am I thinking of like Wizard of Oz or

something like that it's like she wished it into existence oh like if fans are like if you believe

it right and I got in this car and it was burning oil through the shifter boot

Jesus I imagine the smell behind her yeah the oil dripping on the exhaust coming up

through the shift boot and you would have to add a half a quart of trans fluid every two days

trans what every two days I was like if you done the math on what you're doing

I'm so crazy all of it was crazy more than that's more of a than gas she married a guy who looks

exactly like me with one key difference he's a fucking cop oh

makes sense oh let's see oh yeah someone forgot someone said my dad's old Toyota had a broken

spring and we didn't know for three years yeah I guess it just happens uh that's crazy I've never

heard of that just happening but yeah I mean yeah drive drive it home but get that look

oh wait no that's the last one right um this is my favorite oh oh wow it looks holy shit um look how

much metal is hanging down from this vehicle yeah is that like it's like subframe it's like is that a

I think it's no I think it's the knuckle the knuckle I think it's the knuckle higher knuckle we

actually had a similar problem and all of course too um I think the whole knuckle came out from the

from the wheel oh my god and and it's and I think right like because that's the that's the front

well that's the shock mount going to yeah the knuckle yeah uh shock is just fully extended

because there's nothing holding in and they said they just went to the shop and had and they had new

shocks put on new pads and then they drove I've been hearing an odd rattle ever since well yeah no

but don't the rattle isn't this the next sentence is I drove over a bump and heard something break loose

so I'm guessing whatever bolt holds that knuckle in it was not tightened correctly and it was rattling

back then itself out the washer was rattling and then it went kajin isn't is this car safe to drive

the shop is half a mile away is a car sick yes half a mile I would you wouldn't drive that for half

mile I would unbolt the knuckle from the shock if I could right I would here's why I wouldn't do

that because if I'm going to go back to the shop and say hey the ship wasn't tightened fair that's

I also wouldn't drive it half the half mile because they might say well oh it might have happened

you drove it or something I just that's why I wouldn't do it for legal reason that's true and if you

have like triple and a half mile toe is going to be short yeah the longer to hook it up the driver

would be like annoyed very probably yeah I think they still get paid so I mean you're right it is

such short but that is short enough for the driver would be like why do you drive this um I would

and action the first the first if you're half a mile from the shop uh walk this is this mechanic I'd

fucking that's it guys walk over there come over here yeah that's a move yeah that's the move on foot

yes he's the this the first thing says call the shop and have them handle it but if you show up on

foot and go my shit is a half a mile from here you go fucking get it yeah thing fell apart yeah

that's and they also two thousand up votes that I would not drive it because your shock is at risk

of damaging the tire at good point I mean right like yes no that's true that bounce around yeah yeah

no I that is that is a good piece of advice but like without thinking it necessarily through in terms

of like evidence gathering against the shop I'm thinking like I would you know just get it their mindset

a half a mile at like 10 miles an hour I would I would do it with that and risk the tires true you

probably and even if you got a flat tire I'd fucking go fucking yolo it the rest of the way

all right and then and we can skip these if we're done with this but the last one a funny bit uh

so this is someone okay this is a dash or a dash wait can we guess the car

uh you can't I've already read further down oh you know what kind of car this is but what we're

looking at a gauge cluster in the middle it says service transmission in the D do not shift

or turn engine off is this an 86 no it's not not I'll tell you that look at the scrollwork on the

yeah on the bezel of the gauge yeah it looks like a Chrysler crossfire scrollwork you're closer is it

it's a Chrysler product okay um uh yeah now that I see the font you're totally right it is a Chrysler

product okay go this is very funny uh go back it's a it's a big warning light uh on a

heavily scroll is this got a land it's got to be like a Laramie it's got to be like a ram

fucking Laramie or something or Larry it some western shit yeah Texas edition

fuck because of all the scrollwork yeah it's very uh what's the word I'm looking for like

tribal tattoo speaking of affliction this is like the bar wire tattoo yeah they tried to do

western and ended up at affliction accidentally that's really funny it says service transmission

continue in drive do not shift or turn engine off um so but then it also says until you

oh until you reach a desired location you may not be able to shift again until service so it's

stuck in drive yeah what's really funny to me about this is the fuel range which is 53 miles

so you have a limited amount of time to solve this problem yeah and you're averaging 10 miles per

gallon mm-hmm go pretty pretty far 134 thousand miles on this vehicle uh ram 1516 there we go

yeah 55.7 yeah they heard a big clunk uh oh oh oh oh oh and it wouldn't shift out of first

oh this is funny they can and they left alone for six hours came back turned it on no warnings

yeah uh yeah this is a fixed itself software problem I mean this is software what what when

you leave it off for a few hours there's a there's a there's a there's a there's a soft restart

and there's a hard restart for your codes like a soft restart it's probably like two minutes

and oh this is with Portia I don't I mean who knows but my guess is six hours is it enough for a

hard restart that's my that makes sense but yeah um that's crazy oh yeah um so uh drivers

of the closest mechanic is what most people say yeah I mean I would I wouldn't I wouldn't not take

that advice seriously I would definitely take that advice seriously yeah I mean there's a good point

no the warning on the dash I would take seriously they say anything that sets lip mode is potentially

severe very good point yeah um and then yeah most people yeah the eight speed transmissions aren't great

this is just the funnest that sucks yeah yep that's very shitty and very fun for us we should

keep doing that should we talk about the alpine yes the a 110 god damn this is a fucking that is a

delightful odd will be oh um there's a photos on uh it's the ground if you scroll down a little bit

yeah yeah there it is yeah yeah uh in in my driveway with them van um nobody understood the metaphor

in my driveway by the way it was that they were um immigrants um they're from other countries but

that's okay because it was happened the day of the things uh okay it was the day yeah it was the

day Sergio was on the podcast gotcha um so the alpine uh what an automobile so great yeah um and maybe

do you do you have handy the email from david twig that uh was after we drove it that had is that

handy or not really i can don't worry about it um but uh 2450 pounds right uh 246 horsepower

so basically uh you know 100 horsepower uh how does that work whatever it is i don't know it's it feels

way faster than that power number would suggest um it has a very wide torque band

um and and a and a really nice shifting um dual clutch gearbox uh and it really

it annoys me how successful they were it i mean it annoys me not because they were successful at it

because no one else really seems to have been able to master this to create a very light weight

yet incredibly comfortable and spacious but also small on the outside yep a car that can

really do pretty much everything um other than hold uh check the carry on uh then holding a rolling

carry yeah yeah you can hold um it has uh some some you have to have the odd shaped or soft luggage

but i don't care because uh when you have a light car and a rigid chassis you can make this

suspension very soft and it will still handle well and it will like sail over

undulations in the road and you don't need to have fancy suspension because being lightweight is

enough and then that drives when it's light then it doesn't need wide tires and when you have narrow

tires you have amazing steering feel and then because it's light you don't need like all this other

shit and it's just like you don't need big brakes so that reduces the rotating mass and you don't

need big wheels it's like it's everything you the more you take away the more you can take away

it's like compound interest but for lightweight stuff and that's what's great it just feeds itself

removes all of these problems like when you add the weight in the car you have to solve that weight

problem with your entire whatever and now it's going the other direction yeah it's fantastic what

is can you look up the Amira four cylinder ways because i don't remember i looked it up at some

point but it's um so there's the email this is his first email and then there's that's his reply if

you want it okay you know i ask i ask for that but i definitely don't need it in outside i'm sorry

okay i thought i did but now i did um you do have to give up a couple things there aren't

cup holders uh there is no real in cabin storage and if i own one i would find someone to make me

some kind of cup holder because i am a heavon who likes coffee while i drive as there i think he said

you last episode there's like an add-on cup holder you can get like the NSX thing oh i don't know

where i don't know where it lives okay but it lives you can get one okay it lives something and you

can get the little kangaroo pouch behind the drivers okay and there's that little shelf below um the

Amira AMG weighs 31 80 din i mean so this is let's call it conservatively 600 pounds lighter than that

yeah that's that is a lot that's so much for a car that is ultimately targeting the same kind

of customer it's like the Amira with no engine transmission yeah right yeah that's serious weight

yeah um and and it's just the the way that this thing flows up a canyon is in my opinion like joyous

you know what i mean like you just it's it does every right thing which is annoying because we can't

because i'd buy that fucking today it has it has so many of the good qualities of a Cayman

me out but it's me out of size uh the suspension is so good i mean the suspension this double

wishbone thing we've talked about this before like you can't get that under a hundred thousand

dollars except on any Amira's a hundred thousand dollars you know with with Porsche products you only

get double wishbone front not all yeah not all around and it's on GT3 money so and it's really

magical shit i mean also i think the type r uses that stuff and it just it the tires sticks better the

suspensions soft i can't get over how spacious the car is and how nice meaning luxurious it feels inside

yeah this is by the G1 which i think is the most luxurious of them with the brown you know

subelt leather seats um it's i mean it's the one i'd like to have those seats i i very much enjoyed

those leather seats david um and others uh Ben who owns this car um Ben C from france uh and and

david who is the the project manager for this entire vehicle line um both said what you want is the

base car possibly with the GT they said you know you there's the s which is faster and stiffer

and than the r which is faster and stiffer than that the the purpose of the car is the base car

um and he said he's like i wish david was like i wish he drove it in the wet you know which

yeah we won't get to do unfortunately but it was fucking it was it was great in the dry

definitely of course i had to put it down at south bay otherwise i would drive it again

yeah it's i can't i would i would be driving it constantly it's also it's on 20,000 kilometer tires

and they're fine and they've done like multiple track days like when the cars out light you don't

you don't go through tires right there's less pressure on the tire that and the tire has a good

compound the same compound it would use if you put on a new Mustang GT yeah but it weighs 1800 pounds

less or whatever 1300 pounds less so the tires are gonna last a lot longer it's fucking awesome

yes profile is great looks so good from the back looks like kind of exotic it's funny some people

really noticed it and other people um like car people nerds when nuts and nobody else gives a shit

no one else it's kind of interesting whenever moving on a backer about your day um

but like the you know some cars you can get the vibe in like a hundred feet you get in it and you

start it and you and you just pull away and you get it in a hundred feet i understood this car

was gonna be amazing i pulled it out of the basement of here out the back and by the time i was

halfway up the block i was like oh shit this is gonna be something you could just feel the

the lack of loss in the powertrain you can feel that right away yeah you know what i mean like

you can you can feel in first gear in a hundred feet that like oh i can feel that there's nothing

that's there's no slop in this at all you put it in deed it's connected you know yeah the transmission

is good yeah it's really good this dual clutch is very nice multiple people said oh so much better

so much better manual if they offered a manual i would i would be i would prefer that just because

it's what i like but like i don't i don't have any complaints about this existing product at all

i agree i think it's such a subjective question a friend art asked me that today and i was like

anyone who prefers manuals will always prefer a manual you know you're you're almost never

again going to convince them that paddles are better unless it's like a proper race car but what

so i'll say is that for a dual clutch this is a very good dual clutch that listens to you it

gives you the gear if it can and if it if it can't give you the gear the little gauge wiggles and

like i know you can't have that right now which is a very cool little detail they do uh so

and then you're just allowed to steer and use the amazing steering that is so good yeah better than

came in in my opinion and just enjoy the thing you know yeah my car the steering is much heavier

my car to i don't even think deliver the same result i think the weight in my i don't think my car

turns in is like this car does i think i think uh what really surprised me the most is like

you know how much how much like just as much fun the alpine was as my car like my car is like

double the fucking power uh if not more than double the power and yeah it weighs uh

six hundred pounds more but double the power it's you know and manual but like actually

when you're going through a series of s's the alpine was was better than my car well because

series of s's you're pretty much constant throttle yeah so then what what's going to shine

is agility which is really going to be based on weight yeah and you're and you're both mid-engine

cars yeah so the but even up on the mountain there's just there's not a lot of places where the

my power to weight advantage matters versus the ability to go yeah like just super i mean my car is

one of the best cars on the market for that yeah that's what people go what's a really agile handling

sports car for the road seven eight spider it's like that's like the go to sure fucking not a

few driven this what is the front what's the width of your front tires do you know

I want to say two fifty five okay the alpine's two oh five yeah no it's a lot easy so it's

huge difference but it's a lot easier to turn that tire yeah whereas you have to you have to

overcome all that forward momentum and get it to rotate I mean all those little things add up so

much what's the rear on the alpine uh two thirty five this is this is from a new GT so made

the cars might have been different but that's the spec I have probably the same so two thirty five

yeah so the rear's aren't even as wide as my front yeah so you probably have more maximum grip

sure but that's not what this thing's about yeah I mean actually I think I probably do and that

that may in terms of fun like not be good like I actually I may have more fun getting this to move

around at a lower level of grip I don't know it's it's annoying that you can't buy this year

it's really good yeah because it's so great yeah and I'd buy one in fucking in two seconds

it was so great it's rad and and I think it looks awesome too and the blue it looks great

silver is pretty good yeah I would I probably wouldn't choose silver um blue on tan

oh yeah that's all right yeah that's all right um and it wrote it rides nice on the highway it's

an easy car to use I mean it even you just have to uh you can't have big uh big suit cases

right so um but like when when like so we I criticized we criticized the Roma

couple weeks ago the Ferrari robot for for not being able to fit normal size suitcases yeah true um

I feel like I think it's really says something where I would put up with that no problem for the

Alpine and in the Ferrari I'm like nah I'm gonna need to fit my bags in here but with the Alpine

it's the experience is so good to drive that all right fine you want me to bring weird luggage like

okay do you think that's because the focus of the Alpine is you see it as like sporty driving

whereas the Roma you see as a GT car so it's supposed to be a travel yeah travel friendly car

yeah and yeah by the way fucking Ben C drove the Alpine across the country yeah he drove it for

four weeks so clearly somebody can travel with it um yeah it's just it's not very uh storage

friendly it's not which is like I was going to say you know for listeners if they go to Europe

and you can rent one yeah you fucking should but you should also know that it might not be a multi-day

trip type of car unless you have soft luggage yeah I switch the one for a day and then you know go

back to your BMW 318 touring or whatever yeah you should but if that that car really

and it's it's it's fuel efficient you know it sounds very on the inside but it doesn't

sound offensive on the outside uh you don't get quite as much turbo-wush as you get from the

Amira with the four cylinder but I think the tone of the engine is actually fabulous it sounds

really nice it does a motor train got 41 miles per gallon highway on a new GT really wow

yeah gas a gas engine a light aerodynamic car I mean that car is fun as hell and they're getting

41 that's like better than a new GR86 but yeah the engine has way more guts David said if it wasn't

for that pesky something something test we would have been able to sell it in the US so I think

there is a good reason that it wasn't uh wait there um uh where where was that go go uh it was the

most recent email uh down there um oh there we go uh hang on hang on I can only apologize to your

listeners that we did not manage to federalize it we really did try if it had not been for that pesky

unbelted crash law and we would have okay I don't know a lot about the unbelted crash law um

but I I believe he's telling the truth but I guess there's some kind of test that the car won't pass

um I don't know why that is but that's a bummer um and maybe I don't know it's not rare enough to

show and display and I don't know if it'll be as relevant in 25 years when they're legal or 20

years because the first cars are 2017's um but goddamn if you can go to Europe and drive one uh they

are fucking sweet yeah or make friends with Ben every listener just make friends with Ben

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speaking of which uh patrons uh scooped up uh 40 of the green uh notice canyons uh appreciate that

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it's now available for the public remaining units uh of the green um are up on a notices

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available as well that one's funny they the notice guys were they're like dark blue it's the most

popular color um and uh it turned out uh I mean we did sell a lot of them but it wasn't it was not

as runaway successes either minty or orange um and I like the green a lot the green is the green

is for all seasons it looks great and of course um do you want it a green right okay yeah absolutely

I will get you it's 15 years my treat it's gonna match my car this is my treat absolutely it will

match your BMW um and then of course we've got uh the Tahitian black mother of pearl which is the last

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we had to murder so many oysters you guys need a mask we had to we had to I murder more oysters

the average day at the redondo beach seafood market than to make these watches uh oh yeah

because you probably eat what 20 and a six yeah crushing them yeah we gotta go down there

some fucking oysters I could oysters for me sure no I'll let me it's a thaddeus move it's

me a thaddeus I'll go and then I'll eat lobster crabs so we do that I'll eat crab or lobster sure

so you like a cooked shellfish yeah and I've had oysters I haven't smoked they're good but like

when you start putting stuff on them actually the grill oysters grill oysters are rad yeah

when you when you say I went to a nice restaurant had the best oyster I've ever had in my life

really and it was like they put a nice thing on it yeah it tasted mostly like the thing yeah yeah

we went to this weird tasting thing called effin effin bar uh and it was like a weird pairing menu

for 20 courses and uh there is some very interesting cocktail combinations um yeah let's go to

the people though the people oh wait before we go to the people live show dates official

TST live with Christian James hand uh live and in person uh July 24th at the shop in Houston

July 25th at the shop in Dallas uh in the next I think 24 hours I will have a ticket link

to buy tickets fortunately the shop is handling all that for us um I think there's about 200 seats

you do not need to be a member of the shop to go uh there's food and beverage on site uh bring out

your car it's going to be a fucking fun time Christian and and and you need to see Christian James

hand life which in my opinion if when I pitched this to Christian I wanted him to headline

I was like and he's like no this is the smoking tire podcast with Christian I was like yeah but your show

is so much better than mine you should I'm happy to open for you and he's like no so Christian's

gonna open for us and then he's gonna join us uh for a part of our show but um you get a double

feature and and Christian's gonna fucking bring out the big guns for our audience which is

gonna be really really fun so July 24th and 25th in Texas we're coming to you uh let's go to the

people at patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast where you get the live show it's where you get

the show early it's where you get the show without ads is where you get extra show um and and other

things things like watches I'm just giving them away over here let's see oh these are leftovers

from two days ago yep okay so many okay it's so many uh I still can't I guess glass is off for

the TV is the way to go yellow led footer that I very much like that is a really nice uh contraction

there and um I'm pro your username would there be any unique automobiles that aren't hyper cars

that you wish we could bring back from the dead uh for example I used to own a BMW i3 and loved it

100% yeah i3 and the vault why Chevy doesn't bring back the vault uh it's crazy to me um the i3

all they had to do I mean I say this like it's easy and I'm sure a bunch of people can tell me why

it's not but because they were calling it a elect uh they the class they classified it as like an

assisted EV right range extended EV and not as a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid I don't know if

how that moved the needle on the papers or not but all they had to do was put a bigger fucking gas

tank in it yep so the range so the gas could go further it's a great car other than that like no

notes they should they're absolutely should have made that car again carbon monococ right yeah real

drive funky little things um I would love a bunch of strados the strados redo the strados a new

strato barely change it it's yeah so good looking uh that is a fucking good one um I would love I

love to them the Morgan aero super sports to continue um the the the more I really love the Morgan

aero series of cars I think they're re the later ones but the early ones can be a little awkward

the later ones are really good looking and I love those gin and teconic state parkway oh wait

didn't we already do this we did this with two million dollars yeah we we already did that one

I think we did it with more fun money and Rico Palazzo says I drive 40,000 years mostly on the

interstate and we have he drives 40,000 miles per year what did I say you said he drives 40,000

years sorry just I have he drives 40,000 miles a year uh on the interstate uh what is your

experience with supercruise and blue crews my experience has been very good with both yeah but

better with supercruise then blue uh only is Ford yeah I've used supercruise only a few times and

I was very impressed yeah I was less impressed with it in my 2021 Mustang electric that I was

in a newer vehicle that I used it in that was like a 2024 um so make of that what you will

every time I've used blue crews I've been impressed um going back I I used it I used it for almost

an hour on the interstate with no interventions and it was I was very impressed at the smoothness

and the lane centering and my mother was in the car and didn't even notice that I wasn't steering

I was very impressed with blue crews um but yeah they're they they both essentially the same

technology um and I think we both have a little bit limited experience it's not science but

um p-car photos tips for protecting a car from the so-cow son um I've started to notice some

minor cracking and fading on the window seals of my 2019 SI um there are some products that you

can use that can sort of rejuvenate those rubbers yeah I just bought a new product that I found from

Reddit it was like retailers were saying this was the most effective and it was neither Larry

nor chemical guys it was like a different vinyl plastic refresher but my advice because my

car lived outside for six years and the paint went from fine to fucked and the and paint shops

told me like the UV here's very intense get a cover yeah get it if you if you can and no one will

steal it or mess it up just get like cover it if you can park it under a cover if you can or get a

car cover D-I-L-L space D-O-E Dildo says uh I don't think I'll be able to afford my dream car which is

a Gen 1 4 GT and Dildo is absolutely right would a manual V8 R8 with budget to supercharge and convert

to rear-wheel drive give a similar driving experience any other options of manual mid-engine cars

that give a similar experience around a hundred K um my first question is how tight are you to the

V8 because buying it's one thing if you excuse me already have a V8 R8 and you go I love this car

but I want more power and you supercharge it it's another if you're starting from scratch and you go

I'm gonna buy a V8 car and supercharge it just buy the V10 if you want an R8 just just get a V10 and

like a stick shift R8 V10 is a fabulous yep um but to buy a V8 R8 get the blower get it installed

you know versus to buy the other car and keep it stock you know money and money out it's a much

better deal and you're talking about budgets here so I would just get the V10 and accept that it's

not a 4 GT and I drove an R8 V8 two years ago cool sound great looking car such as first gen but

like the steering was the biggest let down and the steering in the 4 GT is fabulous right and then

the steering in the in the later V10 R8's got much better especially like the performance one

that trim like yeah if you can get the get the newer car because the EPS was better um you know

why the 4 GT it's such good steering the rack was out of the first gen focus they tried like

hundreds of different steering racks and that was just the best one so get a first he this person

get a first gen focus yeah first gen focus you then you have part of a 4 GT right yeah um I mean

or or maybe listen to me you could get a 2011 Shelby GT 500 and have a 4 GT engine that's true

and it will sound a lot like a 4 GT yeah you will also have a Mustang you will also have a Mustang

but like this is where we're at get the R8 just save save an extra year um remember this person's

question from last week oh right yeah um okay they asked about a car for an assistant super

attendant in a conservative district teacher pulls up with a red mock E must be nice to have

the money to buy a fancy liberal show car someone says an opportunity to have EV chargers installed

came up and it got pulled off the table before the conversation started we don't do electric cars

here god it's so weird yeah so this person's like I'm gonna go shop for a GR Corolla or a type S

yeah yeah it is what it is um did oh man we guys I've been kicking this one for three weeks

did you see in fucking Trump's budget bill that they snuck in a thing to kill cafe

I heard about it yeah yeah did you see how they did it no oh I got you can explain yeah

so basically they can't change the cafe fuel economy standards like truck all the only thing

Trump can get passed with a simple majority is the budget that's it he won't be able to do

fuck all else because he needs a true majority right or the two thirds majority so anyway

they're finding creative ways to fuck with the budget in order to back channel getting rid of

things they don't like so they don't like cafe regulations basically like fuel economy standards

why having a clean air and efficient cars is political is it's a crazy thing but it's like

lobbyist money and all kinds of shit and and also like owning the libs or whatever but uh basically

all they did was set there's like a number of violations like if your company sells

for every car you build that doesn't meet the standard there's a number a it's three pennies

through two dollars assigned to it there's then a multiplication factor that gets you to a fine

they basically just set the multiplication factor to zero right so you still have to do all the

math you still have to submit a report you still have violated the cafe standards and they will

send you a bill for zero cool it's nice to have government that works that isn't just like

literally trying to pull scams very creative yeah yeah I mean you got to respect a scam

artist for being creative I do it in a way but also you know it's like we need more revenue if

the government wants revenue and they won't tax billionaires they go all right well here's revenue

that will we're gonna multiply by zero now but they want or they were thinking about trying to sell

a bunch of public land which yeah they've pulled off the table in Utah thank god and I don't

know if it's getting pulled off nationally but the pushback I mean from everyone people like parks

as it turns out parks aren't political well like shout out like Cameron Haynes who you know famous

bow-hunter guy very vocal Republican he voiced his huge problems with this part of the bill and some

of his fans were like wow I can't believe you're a Democrat it's like I don't know this is affecting

like the land I hunt on and you know all these other things so I respect that a little change yeah

um hero you know here for Zach's pump Zach what I don't know what that means

me either Zach recently mentioned in e90 is high on your short list of next cars I just sold

an m2 comp manual because I didn't like the shifter hesitant about ending up in a similar

situation with the m3 what is it about the e90 platform that you find so appealing

um I like the high revving engine I like the sound of it and the m3 is just as they all have been

as a car that does so many things really well I don't like the weight of the e90 and it's

a much bigger car than mine but it gives me V8 noises and high revving noises and will you know

it's a comfortable GT car and could be a sports car and I have friends that turn them into like

proper fucking race cars and they do that really well too so that's why it's appealing but I think I

just like punishment so I just want to keep supporting my local BMW shop um and then he asks more

broadly um for people who are not journalists how do you build confidence in a purchase when you

can't and do extended seat time beforehand if you live in a major city do tarot and if tarot doesn't

exist uh it's much harder I agree if you can make friends with like a car club and you know don't

do it until you're really sure hey I'm really choosing between these cars maybe you could make

friends with someone that has one and they the least let you take it for a short drive

I mean yeah uh how do you build confidence I mean yeah I would say find a way to rent one tarot

is not a perfect solution but it has made it easier than ever um I mean look that may involve

like flying somewhere for a day might depending where you live yeah I mean if you live uh if you

live a commuter flight from somewhere like fly somewhere for a day tarot car go have a nice day

driving and now you know you know and uh it's hard we're in a rare position I think we have

friends that rotate through cars quickly and you know you could also become comfortable with that

where if you buy it and after six months you go actually this wasn't the thing you know Venn and

Autor does that you know I don't like it as much as I thought I would all right sell it yeah

you don't have to pay in the ass but you could do that yeah um yeah I don't I don't know I would say

take advantage of all test drive opportunities ask ask a lot of questions you know whoever whatever

car reviewer you trust if they ever review of it you know that's that you know but yeah okay

that's a lot of words basically why don't we have more hybrids with manuals because

Doug and other folks liked the CRZ which you know back when that came out that was a very rare thing

Honda car little hatchback hybrid but had a manual I don't think it sold very well I don't think

people liked I think I think I think Doug liking it is not success in the market Doug likes weird

shit I like weird shit too I we had one as a press car it was okay it it it ultimately didn't

satisfy me as a hybrid and didn't satisfy me as a sports car so that's kind of where I was left with

it um did we were I think we made a video with it at some point we did a long time ago it also

back then uh the manual transmission got 37 miles per gallon highway we can get that these days

with like like let me look up a civic SI yeah you can get that yet true yeah it's probably

similar yeah I mean you can get 37 highway in a civic SI so what it offered wasn't that great

and I think I mean if you think the take rate on manual is a small way to look up the take rate

for a manual hybrid yeah um I I don't driving the alpine reminds me that you actually don't need all

this fanciness for small light cars if you want to keep building giant SUVs giant crossovers

and heavy-ass porky M5 touring then yeah you're gonna need the technology in order to make those

vehicles go stop turn and be fuel efficient or you could build cars of fucking a little bit lighter

and you actually don't need any of that stuff to be efficient um but that's not like sexy in terms

they want to say they want to be like it's 700 horsepower uh no one's gonna say like it's seven

horsepower but has the a worse power to wait than a lot of other things um yeah uh bad gardener

just got back from two weeks in Iceland and saw a surprising variety of sports cars oh well

that's incredibly interesting uh when I was there I saw no sports cars all I saw were like

shitboxes and hardcore off road yeah yeah yeah like like the G wagon I'm glad that changes it

I'm glad people are starting to build sports car bring sports cars to Iceland uh that's cool as

shit um uh question my rental camper didn't have cruise control but instead a speed limiter so you

spend hours flat out and it keeps you at the speed you want have you come across odd comfort features

in your travels that are not common in the US comfort features I wouldn't call that a comfort

feature I would call that restriction the odd comfort features are all in the US nobody builds their

cars to be like her overtly comfortable like Americans with that we've talked about this

fucking uh Chevy 3500 pickup truck that we had a Gotham dream cars there was a single cab not

even an extended cab two with a fold up so you could three across bench if you were going two

across and you folded that bench down so it was the armrest then for those two people they could

share eight cup holders which is the most egregious cup holder to human ratio I've ever seen in any

car that's America doing that shit the fucking English always have one thing to view but the

leather smells really nice and you forget I think maybe like Japan with the long wheel base or

you know the reclining seats with a footrest like the century should like that maybe yeah whimsical

nineties Japanese luxury that's a good time that's what our deli come the deli

sure as that yeah yeah yeah yeah um yeah um I don't I mean I don't have the in depth knowledge

to answer that although I think we answered the the gist of how we feel about it okay wait slow

car slow if you're both going to have a daily draw if you currently both have a daily driver

they can do it all but fun and we're gonna add a second vehicle for 65k it can't have more than

50,000 miles or be more than seven years old so a fun car fun car okay a pure fun car let us

succeed I think you could any number of lotuses you could buy at that budget for even money you buy

it you drive it 10,000 miles you sell it for the same exact amount you put into it um I think

that kind of money will also get you any number of lovely camins and boxers which would still have

some kind of practicality that's true um but if you really want to you know you want it to go

full-stupid you know you could get something like an air used aerial atom for 35 grand you

can get a catering for 40 yeah yeah if you really want to be super stupid you should I think

I'm better at all the time but yeah I mean 65k gets you a bunch of C8 Corvette it gets you

a you know it gets you a bunch of Cayman it gets you a bunch of uh BMW M2 it gets you a whole bunch

of fun stuff it's just like what dynamics do you want you want mid engine you want a convertible

do you want front from front rear we know um yeah load but flat money lotuses are there are no

brainer yeah and that's all the way toward the fun scale you know uh crap two more and then I

need to eat lunch so badly because I am dying or what that was my time clock right we're at 118

okay crabhab says why are most people either motorcycle or car people been riding on an off

since 2000 and I currently have a triumph as Yamaha zoomer shout out to Zuma people that was my

first scooter and I have okay I love them all is it the lack of experience the danger why do people

motorcycle why do people either one or the other I think if you get really into motorcycles

the idea of spending a hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars on a car

to have less fun and go less fast seems really dumb sure and so until people get really hurt

if they start to go motorcycle they probably will think cars are a waste of time and money in space

and energy yeah I think it's also a very unique experience that you really can't replicate in a car

even if you're just cruising on a motorcycle and also if you get into them when you're younger

like so much of of what you like is because of what you got to do so if you grew up in a motorcycle

family you're gonna be into motorcycles if you open a family like both you'll be into both

and a lot of car people just think motorcycles are dangerous and they are yeah you know and I

understand that I'm scared every time I ride so like yeah there's also a lot of people who like both

I mean there's that's there is a I don't think it's a fair assessment to say most people are

either car or motorcycle I would say most people that are into cars want to be into motorcycles or

intrigued by them yeah but are just too nervous or whatever or risk averse yeah to ride them but

yeah most people who are into cars and going fast look at bikes and long for them yeah yeah but I

know a ton of people that write about cars and motorcycles changeably yeah um I'm thinking more

and more about doing that off road riding school I really would like to learn how to ride on should

yeah pink pony car club says there are a few quote stepchild exotics that keep dropping in value

and I'm curious at what price they become an attractive buy mainly the MC20 the second gen NSX

the Jaguar F type SVR and the BMW i8 okay what would I spend for an MC20 oh I'm in at 150

yeah all day that's a hundred and fifty thousand dollar experience for the next 10 years yeah fabulous

automobile for a road car fast gorgeous looks stunning yeah looks like way more money yeah at 150

grand and they they're gonna have a floor a carbon tub mazerotti has a floor that car does not

depreciate to zero I don't know what the floor is unless it has massive problems we don't know but

if it doesn't yeah then it'll have a floor yeah that's a fucking nice car man uh second gen NSX

I don't know no hundred it's such a good car yeah a very impressive vehicle it feels like a six

figure car I mean I don't know I don't know what price I would I mean I don't know 90 grand

90 grand I'm in I think I could drive it for you know 85 drive it for six months yeah

and then sell it again yeah just just to live it a bit because it's giving you turbo s performance

they're great I don't think you would hold my attention very long yeah Jaguar F type SVR I don't

actually like these very much they're too stiff I don't like the all wheel drive at what it did

to the front end yeah I like the early F type ours that are rear wheel drive better than this yeah

and I didn't like the redesign they did yeah with the first one lights yeah the first one with the lights

that swept back over the curve that was the way to go yeah so I'm just to know across the

board on SVR but 35k for a 2017 V6 F type coupe with a manual there was one on cars and bids

last week awesome awesome balance balance all day yeah that's what you want I ate I don't think I'd

buy one 30 30 grand yeah 30 grand yeah it doesn't interest me doesn't either it's a cruiser yeah

you know putter around town maybe it doesn't interest me cool when they came out but but not

not now yeah Timmy question on convertibles are you ever paranoid about UV damage and or bird poop

from parking outside with the top down dude the other day Marco came and met me and Malibu

from breakfast and brought his spider and a bird shit into his interior and he was not

did he park near the shit tree wall driving oh no wall driving yeah no he did not park near

the shit tree that accuracy should be respected I know right and he was not happy but um now man

no I I am not worried about it my my convertibles my car spends so much of their life inside a

dimly lit garage that if they are outside for a couple of hours in the sun out of their whole life

it doesn't bother I think about cars from like the fifties and sixties and you know if they're

worth keeping eventually you're going to redo it but like yeah I mean if it's your daily like

yeah I probably put the top up yeah I wouldn't I would not park it outside top down every day oh no

I'm out for a drive and I can see it when I park there's nothing valuable in it then I don't

care yeah yeah yeah I if I if my top comes down for the most part it's down for the day and that

doesn't bother me because it's because you end up it's 15 days a year or something and I think

Timmy says would UV protecting products mitigate wear from exposure yes definitely yeah there's all

kinds of product ammo makes a great package um here at the shop um we also use um doctor beastlies

products for UV which are really really good and all my cars have all that stuff on them um cool

yeah man good show today uh thank you all for joining us uh we placed some kittens

Zach had an anniversary it's a whole fucking thing going on over there it's a whole big fucking day

at the smoking tire uh thank you to our patrons for doing such an excellent job of uh with their

questions as always um as well as with their credit card you know I'm saying um and uh uh yeah

we'll be back next week with uh with a whole lot more smoking tire and uh don't forget Texas

Houston July 24th Dallas July 25th with Christian James hand and we will be posting more info

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