Battery is the Engine
About this episode
SEMA-era EV hype gives way to a 2025 reality check: the industry is swinging back toward internal combustion, with hybrids positioned as the “wave of the future.” The hosts and guest Jake from Hypercraft dig into why electrification is accelerating—EVs can deliver extreme performance faster, especially for startups and specialized builds. They also argue the battery is the real “engine,” with software-heavy battery management and thermal limits shaping range, fast charging, and even safety.
EV
"car, you know, take the whole world of the car and shift it to, you know, this whole new lane of EV a couple years ago... Remember that huge enormous... everything was electric"
EV means electric vehicle. Instead of relying on a gasoline engine, it uses an electric motor powered by a battery. The hosts are talking about how the industry got very excited about EVs for a while.
EV stands for electric vehicle, meaning the car’s main propulsion comes from one or more electric motors powered by a battery. In the segment, the hosts describe a period when the industry shifted focus toward EVs and away from gas engines.
internal combustion
"all the manufacturers like, we're not going to make, you know, gas engines anymore, we're out. But now, all of a sudden, here we are in 2025 and what's happened, Kevin? There's this big push back towards internal combustion"
Internal combustion is the traditional type of engine that burns fuel to make power. The hosts are saying that after years of EV hype, more people and manufacturers are again paying attention to gas/diesel engines.
Internal combustion refers to engines that burn fuel (typically gasoline or diesel) inside the engine to create power. The hosts contrast this with EVs, saying there’s been a recent push back toward internal combustion after the EV-focused push.
hybrids
"the sweet spot that you see nowadays is easy to accomplish with the, you know, just all the technology out there and electric motors... these hybrids are really shaping up to be the kind of the wave of the future."
A hybrid uses two kinds of power, usually a gas engine and an electric motor. The idea is to get the benefits of both—electric help when you need it and gas power when you want range.
A hybrid vehicle uses more than one power source—typically an internal combustion engine plus electric motors and a battery. The hosts frame hybrids as a “sweet spot” because they can combine electric torque for movement with an engine for broader range and power.
electric motors
"with the... technology out there and electric motors and, you know, the unbelievable power they have, these hybrids are really shaping up..."
Electric motors are the parts that turn electricity into motion. In an EV or hybrid, they help the car accelerate quickly because they can deliver power right away.
Electric motors convert electrical energy from a battery into rotational motion that drives the wheels. In the segment, the hosts emphasize that electric motors can quickly get the car moving, which helps hybrids deliver strong acceleration.
turbo
"Where you get electric motors, getting the mass moving, you get a big turbo on a smaller cubic inch engine."
A turbocharger is a device that helps a smaller engine make more power. It uses the car’s exhaust to push extra air into the engine, which lets it burn more fuel efficiently for stronger acceleration.
A turbo (turbocharger) uses exhaust gas to spin a turbine that forces more air into the engine. The hosts describe pairing a big turbo with a smaller-displacement engine as a way to get high power while keeping the engine smaller.
cubic inch engine
"you get a big turbo on a smaller cubic inch engine. It's a great formula and recipe for big power"
Engine displacement is basically how big the engine is internally, measured in volume (often in cubic inches in the U.S.). The hosts are saying you can use a smaller engine and still get strong power by adding a turbo.
“Cubic inch” refers to engine displacement, a measure of the total volume swept by the pistons. The segment’s point is that modern setups can use smaller-displacement engines (in cubic inches) boosted by turbocharging to still produce big power.
infrastructure
"Have y'all looked at the infrastructure? [112.2s] Yeah, no doubt. [113.1s] No doubt. [113.9s] I mean, it's close, right?"
Here, “infrastructure” means the charging setup for electric cars—like where chargers are and how easy they are to use. If that’s missing or unreliable, EVs don’t work as well for everyone.
In this EV context, “infrastructure” refers to the real-world charging network and related support needed to make electric cars practical. The hosts are pointing out that EV adoption depends not just on the vehicle, but also on whether charging is available and convenient where people live and drive.
Ford F150 Lightening
"It's still lagging in areas. [146.1s] I mean, why would you do an F-150 lightening and towing when you can't tow?"
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an electric pickup truck. People bring it up because trucks are often used for towing, and the conversation is about whether EVs can meet that need yet.
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an all-electric version of the popular F-150 pickup. It’s specifically discussed here in the context of towing capability, which is a key real-world requirement for truck buyers.
towing
"It's still lagging in areas. [146.1s] I mean, why would you do an F-150 lightening and towing when you can't tow? [152.4s] Yeah."
Towing is the act of pulling a trailer or load behind a vehicle, and it’s a major use case for pickups. The segment implies EV trucks like the Ford F-150 Lightning may be constrained by real-world limits (like range/charging) when towing compared with traditional gas trucks.
SEMA
"We saw at SEMA some of the most unbelievable supercars, some of the crazy performance numbers,"
SEMA is a big car show in the U.S. where companies show off new performance parts and wild custom cars. It’s a place where you can see what tech is coming next.
SEMA is a major U.S. automotive trade show known for aftermarket parts, custom builds, and concept-style vehicles. Hosts often use it as a snapshot of what’s cutting-edge in performance and technology.
ETs and times
"We saw at SEMA some of the most unbelievable supercars, some of the crazy performance numbers, just the unbelievable, you know, ETs and times and, you know, because of low CG and there's"
“ET” is short for elapsed time—basically how many seconds it takes a car to get through a timed run. People use it to compare how fast different cars accelerate.
“ET” usually means elapsed time, the measured time it takes a car to cover a set distance in acceleration testing (commonly a drag strip quarter-mile). It’s used alongside other timing metrics to compare real-world acceleration performance.
no dry train
"just the unbelievable, you know, ETs and times and, you know, because of low CG and there's no dry train and how fast these things can accelerate"
They’re saying EVs don’t use the usual gas-car power system. Instead of an engine and multi-speed gearbox, they use an electric motor to drive the wheels.
This appears to refer to the absence of a traditional “drivetrain” layout in many EVs. EVs typically use an electric motor and reduction gearing, avoiding the multi-component complexity of an engine + clutch/torque converter + multi-speed gearbox drivetrain.
low CG
"just the unbelievable, you know, ETs and times and, you know, because of low CG and there's no dry train and how fast these things can accelerate"
CG means center of gravity. A lower center of gravity helps the car feel more stable and stick better when you accelerate hard or take turns.
CG stands for center of gravity. A lower CG helps a car stay more stable during hard acceleration, braking, and cornering because it reduces weight transfer and body roll.
aero
"and how unbelievable the aero is on them."
“Aero” is short for aerodynamics. It’s about how the car shapes airflow, and good aero can help the tires grip the road better, especially at higher speeds.
In this context, “aero” means aerodynamics—how air flows around the car. Strong aero can generate downforce to improve traction and stability, especially at speed, which directly affects acceleration and handling performance.
powertrain
"Well, and it's easier for a lot of startup companies because the powertrain is the most complex part of the car."
A powertrain is the set of components that generate power and deliver it to the wheels. In EVs, the powertrain centers on the electric motor and battery system, while gas cars add an engine, fuel system, and more complex drivetrain hardware.
startup companies
"Well, and it's easier for a lot of startup companies because the powertrain is the most complex part of the car."
They’re talking about how hard it is for new companies to build cars from scratch. The argument is that EVs can be easier to develop than gas cars because the power system is different.
The hosts are contrasting how difficult it is for new automakers to develop a conventional powertrain versus EV powertrains. The point is that EVs can be more “buildable” for smaller teams because the core components differ from complex combustion-engine systems.
emissions
"plus all the combustion, the emissions, you name it, right, multi-speed transmissions."
Emissions are the harmful gases and particles a vehicle produces. Car makers have to design engines and systems so the pollution stays within legal limits.
Emissions are the pollutants produced when a vehicle burns fuel (or otherwise generates power). Automakers must design engines and aftertreatment systems to meet legal limits for things like nitrogen oxides and particulates.
multi-speed transmissions
"plus all the combustion, the emissions, you name it, right, multi-speed transmissions. They're not easy to do."
A multi-speed transmission is a gearbox with several gear ratios. It helps the engine work efficiently at different speeds, but it’s also more complicated to build and tune.
A multi-speed transmission is a gearbox with multiple gear ratios that helps the engine stay in its efficient power band across different speeds. More gears generally mean more complexity to design, calibrate, and manufacture reliably.
Teslas
"So you've seen, right, the Teslas and the Lucids and the whatever's coming out of nowhere."
Tesla is a company that makes electric cars. The point here is that Tesla helped show EVs can be real, fast, and widely available.
Tesla is the EV brand most associated with mainstream battery-electric performance and rapid model expansion. The hosts mention it as an example of how EVs became more attainable and competitive.
Lucids
"So you've seen, right, the Teslas and the Lucids and the whatever's coming out of nowhere."
Lucid is another electric-car brand. They’re mentioned as an example of newer EV companies competing in the same space as Tesla.
Lucid is an EV brand known for high-end electric sedans and strong efficiency/performance focus. It’s named here alongside Tesla to illustrate the growing variety of EV makers.
EV revolution
"has given us a way to, to get to that fast track pace because this, you know, this EV revolution that occurred a few years ago still continues today, just, I think in a different way."
They mean the big change toward electric cars. Better batteries and motors made EVs advance faster than many people expected.
The “EV revolution” refers to the rapid shift from gasoline to battery-electric vehicles driven by improved batteries, motors, charging infrastructure, and falling costs. The hosts argue it accelerated technology development compared to what would have happened otherwise.
hybrid combination
"His world of hypercraft is, is just unbelievable with all things EV and really the hybrid combination"
A hybrid uses two ways to make the car move, usually an electric motor and a gas engine. It’s designed to be efficient while still driving normally.
A hybrid combination uses more than one type of power source—typically an electric motor plus an internal-combustion engine. The goal is to blend benefits like efficiency, drivability, and performance depending on driving conditions.
heat signature
"They need, right? No heat signature. They need ultra quiet, right?"
A “heat signature” is basically how much heat something gives off that cameras can detect. If a vehicle produces less heat, it can be harder to spot with thermal (infrared) sensors. The hosts are saying EVs can help with that.
“Heat signature” refers to how much infrared heat a system emits and how easily it can be detected by thermal sensors. The segment connects this to EVs because electric drivetrains can produce less waste heat than combustion engines, which can matter for stealth-focused applications.
brushless technology
"I mean, think about the brushless technology in every single person's garage now, that we used to use air."
“Brushless” usually means the motor doesn’t use physical brushes to make it run. Instead, electronics control the motor, which can make it more efficient and last longer. The hosts are pointing out that brushless motors are now common in everyday electric devices.
Brushless technology usually refers to brushless electric motors, which use electronic commutation instead of physical brushes. That design improves efficiency, reduces wear, and helps motors run more reliably—one reason brushless motors are common in everything from power tools to EV-related components.
pneumatic
"We used to use air. We used to use pneumatic stuff. Now everybody has brushless stuff, right?"
Pneumatic means “powered by compressed air.” The hosts are comparing older air-powered tools to newer electric ones, which are increasingly common now.
Pneumatic refers to systems powered by compressed air, commonly used for tools and actuators. The segment contrasts older “air” tools (pneumatic) with newer electric tools that use brushless motors, highlighting the shift toward electrification in garages.
inverters
"But what I get excited about is advancement in battery technology and, and the electric motors and high power electronics, like inverters."
An inverter is a device that changes the battery’s power so the electric motor can use it. It also helps the motor run smoothly and efficiently.
An inverter is the power electronics component that converts a battery’s DC electricity into AC electricity for an electric motor. It also helps control motor torque and efficiency by precisely managing voltage and frequency.
hybrid architecture
"You know, all of this has now led to a better hybrid architecture, a better hybrid system."
Hybrid architecture is how a hybrid car is put together so the gas engine and electric parts can work together. It affects how smoothly and efficiently the car can switch between power sources.
Hybrid architecture is the overall system layout that decides how the battery, electric motor(s), engine, and transmission work together. Different architectures change how efficiently the car can blend electric and gasoline power and how well it can recover energy.
EV is not going away
"And I think EV is not going away. The technology will keep getting better."
This means the speaker thinks electric cars will keep growing and won’t disappear. The reason is that the tech keeps improving, making EVs easier and better to use.
This is a market/technology claim about the long-term direction of electrification. The idea is that improvements in battery technology and power electronics will keep making EVs more practical, so the trend continues rather than reversing.
hybrid I think is the bigger idea
"And, and there's cool spots for electric, but hybrid I think is the bigger idea."
The speaker is arguing that hybrids may be the more broadly adopted near-to-mid-term electrification path. Hybrids can reduce fuel use and emissions while avoiding some limitations of fully electric driving, like charging infrastructure and range anxiety.
runtime
"the commercials, you know, talk about, yeah, runtime, but performance is always in the mix, you know,"
For EVs, “runtime” is basically how far you can go before the battery runs low. They’re saying ads talked a lot about that, but people also want the car to be fun and exciting.
In EV marketing, “runtime” means how long the car can drive on a full battery charge before it needs recharging. The hosts argue that early EV commercials focused heavily on this metric, while buyers also care about performance and overall appeal.
Toyota Prius
"...ause, because you're right when you think about a Prius and stuff, but once the EV only thing started to ..."
The Toyota Prius is a car that uses a gas engine and an electric motor together. This helps it use less fuel than many regular gas cars. It’s often mentioned when people talk about how cars are changing toward electricity.
The Toyota Prius is a hybrid electric car known for using both a gasoline engine and an electric motor to improve fuel economy. It often comes up in discussions about how “electric-only” thinking fits into real-world driving, because the Prius represents a long-running approach to electrification. In a podcast, it’s a natural reference point when talking about the shift from hybrids to EVs.
F 150
"in this, in this ramp up, you had the F 150 most popular vehicle in the world,"
The Ford F-150 is a super popular pickup truck. They’re saying EVs would have been more successful when mainstream trucks like this were part of the electrification push.
The Ford F-150 is the best-selling pickup in the U.S., so it’s a major “volume” vehicle for any electrification strategy. The hosts mention it to argue that EV momentum improved when big, mainstream brands and models were involved—not just niche, futuristic-looking designs.
Mach E
"you had F 150 and you had the Daytona was coming and you had a lot in the Mach E, right?"
The Mustang Mach-E is Ford’s electric version of the Mustang brand. They mention it because it’s an EV that’s supposed to feel more like a fun, desirable car than a strange experiment.
The Ford Mustang Mach-E is Ford’s all-electric crossover, designed to bring EV tech to buyers who associate the Mustang name with performance and style. In the segment, it’s listed alongside other upcoming EVs as evidence that the lineup had real “cool factor,” even if the early EV rollout didn’t match what consumers wanted.
new technology adoption
"You know, new technology adoption never happens the way they expected this to happen in transportation, in mobility, right, with these new concepts."
This is about how people actually start using a new kind of technology. The hosts are saying it usually doesn’t happen exactly the way planners expect, because things like charging infrastructure and public comfort have to catch up.
“New technology adoption” refers to how quickly and in what order consumers, companies, and governments start using a new automotive idea. The hosts argue that adoption in transportation doesn’t follow the neat, planned path—especially when infrastructure and education lag behind the product rollout.
mass market
"I think the weird looks didn't help anything, but just shoving down into the mass market, you know, without the early adopters, without coming in at the high value, because new technology is expensive, right?"
The mass market means regular mainstream buyers, not just car geeks. The hosts are saying that if you jump straight to mainstream customers, it can be harder because the technology is still new and expensive.
The “mass market” is the broad, mainstream customer base rather than early enthusiasts. The hosts argue that pushing EVs directly into the mass market—without first winning over early adopters—made adoption harder because early adoption helps prove the tech and justify infrastructure and pricing.
Cadillac Escalade
"So, but when you look at like the new Cadillac Escalade, all electric, like that is, it's awesome, right?"
The Cadillac Escalade is a big, luxury SUV. Here they’re talking about an all-electric version, meaning it runs on electricity instead of a traditional gasoline engine.
The Cadillac Escalade is a full-size luxury SUV known for its big, comfortable cabin and status-focused styling. In this segment, the hosts specifically mention an all-electric version, which matters because it changes how the vehicle delivers power and how it fits into the EV adoption conversation.
Cadillac V16
"...uple of months ago, I got to see the new Cosworth V16 engine in person that's going into the Bugatti. A..."
The Cadillac V16 is an old engine design from Cadillac that used sixteen cylinders. More cylinders can mean the engine runs very smoothly. It comes up in conversations because it’s an unusual, high-end type of engine.
The Cadillac V16 refers to a historic Cadillac engine configuration that used sixteen cylinders, built to deliver very smooth, high-output power for its era. It’s significant because V16 engines are rare and represent a peak of early luxury-performance engineering. In your podcast context, it’s being mentioned in relation to a “V16” engine concept and how that kind of design is being discussed or showcased.
Remont
"[973.1s] And that is a beautiful engine in a hybrid car with a beautiful hybrid system, [979.9s] you know, that's developed with Remont. [982.1s] And I will tell you that there is nothing that kind of gets me more excited than seeing"
Remont is a company mentioned as helping develop the hybrid system. The host is crediting it as part of the team behind how the car’s gas-and-electric setup works.
Remont is mentioned as a developer involved with the hybrid system. In this context, it’s a partner/technology contributor rather than a car model or brand, tied specifically to how the hybrid system was developed.
range anxiety
"[990.1s] And I will tell you that there is nothing that kind of gets me more excited than seeing [993.3s] both technologies come together in harmony. [999.6s] It's not, there's no range anxiety. [1001.3s] There's no, like, you don't lose the sound and the emotion of engines."
Range anxiety is the worry that your battery will run out before you can find a charger. The host is saying the hybrid setup reduces that worry.
Range anxiety is the fear of running out of battery before reaching a charging point, common in fully electric vehicles. The host argues that with the hybrid approach, you don’t have to worry about that as much.
optimize for efficiency
"[1001.3s] There's no, like, you don't lose the sound and the emotion of engines. [1004.3s] You optimize for efficiency. [1006.3s] You optimize for fuel."
Optimizing for efficiency means the car is trying to use less energy to go the same distance. With hybrids, that usually comes from smart switching between gas and electric power.
To optimize for efficiency means tuning the powertrain so it uses less energy to do the same work—typically by improving how the engine and electric motor share load. In hybrid cars, this often involves controlling when the engine runs, how the battery is charged/discharged, and how power is delivered.
fuel
"[1004.3s] You optimize for efficiency. [1006.3s] You optimize for fuel. [1007.3s] You know, you get to do all of these things."
Here, “fuel” means the gas the engine burns. The point is that the hybrid system helps you use less of it.
In this context, “fuel” refers to the energy source used by the combustion engine (typically gasoline or another liquid fuel). The host is contrasting fuel use with electric-only driving, arguing the hybrid setup improves how much fuel you need.
electric dirt bike
"one of my dirt bike friends just got that new stark that electric dirt bike, he can't rave enough about it, bro. It's got an 80 horsepower setting on it."
An electric dirt bike uses an electric motor and battery pack instead of a combustion engine. Because electric motors deliver torque quickly, riders often describe them as feeling unusually strong even at low speeds.
torque
"So I can't, well, the torque. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude. The torque, dude, yeah."
Torque is the force that makes the wheels turn and helps you accelerate. Higher torque usually means it feels like it pulls harder, especially from a stop.
Torque is the twisting force that makes a vehicle accelerate. Electric drivetrains often produce torque very quickly, which is why people may talk about “torque” when describing how strong an EV or electric bike feels.
economy of scale
"Well, Jake mentioned just quickly the whole economy of scale. So right, the OEs sat on the fence watching Tesla for so long,"
It means the more you make of something, the cheaper each one gets. Big car companies can lower costs by building lots of electric parts at once.
Economy of scale is the idea that the per-unit cost drops as a company produces more of something. In cars, that matters because battery packs, motors, and electronics can get cheaper when manufacturers build them in high volume.
OEs
"So right, the OEs sat on the fence watching Tesla for so long, just taking people's money, right?"
“OEs” here means the regular car makers that build the vehicles you buy. They were waiting to see if electric cars would really take off before investing heavily.
In this context, “OEs” means original equipment manufacturers—i.e., the automakers that build cars and supply the major components. The hosts are describing how these automakers watched Tesla’s early success before committing to electric-vehicle production.
undercut
"And if we jump in at our volumes, man, we could really undercut, Tesla, perhaps we could undercut gasoline because all the emissions costs and everything,"
“Undercut” means charge less than someone else. The point is that if EVs get cheaper to build, automakers could sell them for less than competitors.
To “undercut” means to price something lower than a competitor to win customers. Here, the idea is that higher EV production volume could let automakers lower electric-car prices relative to Tesla and potentially reduce the cost gap versus gasoline cars.
automatic transmissions
"and think, and charging really high, high dollars for it and think, and their course of stock price went through the roof. And they weren't even really making any money yet. So they're just looking at Tesla going, man, when does it make sense to jump in here? ... perhaps we could undercut gasoline because all the emissions costs and everything, automatic transmissions, they're not cheap, right?"
An automatic transmission is the gearbox that shifts gears for you. The hosts are saying it can make gas cars more expensive to build and maintain than EVs.
Automatic transmissions are gearboxes that change ratios without the driver using a clutch pedal. They’re mentioned here because they add cost and complexity to gasoline powertrains compared with simpler EV drivetrains.
repair bills
"But all of a sudden, if it came in, you know, five, $10,000 cheaper, and you don't have all these repair bills and simplicity,"
“Repair bills” are the costs of fixing problems after purchase. The segment contrasts EV ownership with gasoline cars by suggesting EVs could reduce ongoing repair expenses due to fewer moving parts and simpler systems.
Sierra
"This Sierra car is actually kind of the fun toy of everything that we've done [1231.4s] in kind of our portfolio of work. [1233.4s] Single seat, electric, rear wheel drive, about 300 horsepower."
“Sierra” is an electric race-style car with one seat and power sent to the rear wheels. The hosts say it’s built for track and rally-style driving—things like dirt and jumps. They also mention it’s pretty quick off the line.
The “Sierra” is an electric, single-seat, rear-wheel-drive track-style car the hosts describe as a fun, niche project. They highlight its roughly 300 horsepower and quick acceleration (about 0–16 in ~2.4 seconds), plus rally/dirt/jump use. It’s positioned as a purpose-built toy for motorsport-style driving rather than a conventional street EV.
rear wheel drive
"Single seat, electric, rear wheel drive, about 300 horsepower."
Rear-wheel drive means the power goes to the back wheels. That changes how the car turns and grips compared to cars where the front wheels do the work. It can feel more “driver-focused” on a track or loose surfaces.
Rear-wheel drive (RWD) means the car’s power is sent to the rear wheels. In an electric track/rally car, RWD can help with traction and predictable handling when you manage throttle carefully. It also affects how the car rotates in corners compared with front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive.
0 to 16
"And it's 0 to 16, about 2.4 seconds, rear wheel drive."
“0 to 16” is a quickness test the hosts are using to describe acceleration. They say it happens in about 2.4 seconds, meaning the car gets moving very fast. The exact “16” unit isn’t fully spelled out in the clip, but it’s meant as a performance brag.
“0 to 16” is a shorthand acceleration metric—how quickly the car reaches 16 (typically 16 seconds in some contexts, but here it’s presented like a speed/time test). The hosts use it to communicate how fast the car responds from a stop, quoting an elapsed time of about 2.4 seconds. For listeners, it’s a reminder that acceleration benchmarks can be reported in different units depending on the test protocol.
aftermarket
"Let's say the aftermarket or the niche kind of area."
The aftermarket is everything you can buy to modify or upgrade a car that isn’t made by the original manufacturer. It’s where enthusiasts and specialty companies add performance or custom features. The hosts say this space is expanding.
The aftermarket is the ecosystem of parts and services sold outside the original manufacturer (OE). In performance and niche builds, aftermarket support can unlock upgrades—like electronics, powertrain components, or suspension—after the platform matures. The hosts argue that the aftermarket is growing, especially in niche areas.
OE
"Because like you said, normally you would wait until the OE has all this stuff. [1281.9s] And then you can do amazing things with it."
OE (original equipment) refers to the manufacturer’s own parts and systems as delivered on the car. The hosts say you’d normally wait until the OE has “all this stuff” before doing major upgrades, because early on there may be fewer compatible solutions. Once OE support and documentation improve, builders can do more ambitious conversions or performance work.
Chevrolet Corvette
"... or whatever, you know, even go back to the early Corvettes, right. So the software, which I would agree is,"
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car designed for strong performance and handling. Over the years, it has added more electronics and computer-controlled features. That’s why it often comes up when people talk about how software affects how a car drives.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a performance sports car built by Chevrolet, with a long history dating back to early generations. It’s frequently discussed because its engineering and technology have evolved over time, including how modern cars rely on software for key functions. That makes it a common topic when the conversation turns to electronics, control systems, and how they affect driving.
battery management systems
"Batteries are managed by battery management systems, [1460.9s] which are mostly software."
A battery management system is the car’s “battery brain.” It watches the battery’s temperature and voltage and helps keep it safe, including when you charge quickly.
A battery management system (BMS) is the control unit that monitors and manages a car’s battery pack. It tracks cell voltages and temperatures, balances cells, and helps protect the pack from unsafe conditions while enabling features like fast charging.
fast charging
"There's a hardware component, but, you know, to do fast charging, [1465.0s] it takes advanced thermals like predictive thermal management of battery systems."
Fast charging means charging the battery quickly using higher power. It’s harder on the battery because it makes more heat, so the car has to manage temperature carefully.
Fast charging is charging a battery at high power so the battery fills more quickly. Because high power creates more heat, it requires careful thermal control and battery-software limits to avoid damaging cells.
predictive thermal management
"it takes advanced thermals like predictive thermal management of battery systems. [1468.7s] And there's characterization of cells and there's algorithms that get written."
Predictive thermal management is software that tries to “guess” how hot the battery will get. Then it controls cooling so the battery stays in a safe temperature range, especially during fast charging.
Predictive thermal management uses software models and sensor data to anticipate how hot the battery will get, then adjusts cooling/heating strategies ahead of time. This helps maintain safe temperatures during demanding events like fast charging.
characterization of cells
"And there's characterization of cells and there's algorithms that get written. [1472.5s] So you get, you get nerdy fast,"
Cell characterization is the process of measuring how individual battery cells behave under different conditions (like temperature and charge/discharge rates). Those results feed the BMS algorithms so it can estimate state-of-charge and manage charging safely.
integration of all of the vehicle systems
"But the reality is the software is actually a bigger solution [1485.3s] because integration of all of the vehicle systems [1490.0s] is the complexity that has kept so many, you know,"
Integration means the car’s different systems have to “talk to each other” and work as one. It’s hard because if one system changes, it can affect how other systems behave too.
In modern vehicles, integration means coordinating software and electronics across many subsystems (powertrain, charging, thermal control, etc.) so they work together safely and efficiently. The challenge is that changes in one area can affect others, so the whole system has to be validated as a unit.
distributed architecture
"The reality is that, that the modern vehicle is built on accelerated computing technology [1525.1s] instead of distributed architecture with hundreds of control units, [1528.9s] each doing their own little thing like powertrain, right?"
Distributed architecture is when the car uses lots of separate computers, each responsible for a different job. The idea is that newer cars may use fewer, more powerful computers to coordinate everything better.
Distributed architecture is a vehicle design approach where many separate control computers (ECUs) handle different subsystems independently. The speaker contrasts this with newer approaches that rely more on centralized/accelerated computing to reduce complexity and improve coordination.
ECUs
"instead of distributed architecture with hundreds of control units, [1528.9s] each doing their own little thing like powertrain, right? [1532.0s] Like an ECUs for an engine."
ECUs are the car’s computers that control different jobs. For example, one ECU might manage the powertrain while others manage other systems.
ECUs (electronic control units) are computers in a vehicle that run control software for specific functions. In older architectures, there can be many ECUs distributed across the car, each handling subsystems like powertrain.
vehicle networking
"And so this evolution that's happening in the vehicle architecture, vehicle networking, [1550.7s] and I know like in the aftermarket and the performance world,"
Modern cars have lots of computers inside. Vehicle networking is the system that lets those computers talk to each other so the car can coordinate everything smoothly.
Vehicle networking is how a car’s electronic modules (engine control, transmission control, body electronics, infotainment, etc.) communicate over shared data links. As cars move toward more centralized computing, networking becomes the backbone for coordinating features and enabling faster updates across the vehicle.
AI
"and it'll bring things, you know, technologies like AI into the vehicle platform. [1569.1s] I was just about to ask, man, where do you guys bring AI in?"
Here, AI means the car uses smart computer learning to understand what you’re doing and adjust itself. Instead of only using fixed settings, it could change how the car responds in real time.
In this context, AI refers to onboard machine-learning-style processing that can interpret driving conditions and driver behavior to adjust vehicle control strategies. The claim here is that AI could enable “on-the-fly” calibration changes rather than relying only on fixed, pre-tested settings.
calibration tuning
"Yeah, I mean, you're going to like, you know, the calibration tuning activity [1584.8s] of a powertrain system is done by, I mean, Kevin, you know this from the OEM side,"
Calibration tuning is adjusting the car’s computer settings that control how the engine and drivetrain respond. Engineers test it carefully so the car feels right and performs the way they want.
Calibration tuning is the process of setting the software parameters that control how a powertrain behaves—things like throttle response, shift behavior, and torque delivery. It’s typically done by engineers using extensive testing, because small changes in calibration can noticeably change drivability and performance.
on the fly
"that calibration and tuning will be done on the fly for the individual, [1620.8s] and we can use AI to prompt the vehicle."
“On the fly” means it changes in real time while you’re driving. Instead of waiting for a new setting, the car updates its behavior as conditions change.
“On the fly” means the vehicle can update its control/calibration while you’re driving, rather than using only a static tune. In performance terms, that implies the car could continuously adapt throttle and torque delivery to match the driver’s inputs.
throttle
"like, you know, I want more responsiveness in the mid-range [1633.2s] when I get off the throttle and I get right back into it,"
Throttle is how you tell the car how much power you want. When you lift off and then press again, the car has to respond quickly—how it does that is part of what tuning affects.
Throttle refers to the driver’s request for engine power, typically via an electronic throttle body or pedal signal. When the host talks about “off the throttle” and “right back into it,” they’re describing how quickly the powertrain responds to changes in throttle demand.
trickle charger
"You think about sticking a trickle charger on a battery. Yeah, it's safe and simple and it takes hours, but the real key is, man, I don't want to wait"
A trickle charger is a slow battery charger used to keep a battery from going dead. It charges gradually, so it takes a long time compared to faster chargers.
A trickle charger is a low-current battery charger meant to keep a battery topped up over long periods. It’s typically slower than other charging methods, but it’s gentle and can be left connected without stressing the battery as much.
fast charge
"Yeah, it's safe and simple and it takes hours, but the real key is, man, I don't want to wait 40 minutes for my fast charge."
Fast charging is how you charge a battery much quicker than normal. It’s still controlled carefully so the battery doesn’t get too hot or get damaged.
Fast charging is a higher-power way to recharge a battery in less time than a trickle charger. In modern battery systems, the charging rate is managed to protect the cells from overheating and to keep the battery’s chemistry stable.
battery cell
"trying to take individual electrons and stuff them into a specific spot in that battery cell somewhere in that pack, right?"
A battery cell is one of the building blocks inside a battery pack. Modern chargers and battery management systems try to charge these cells in a controlled way so the whole pack works well for longer.
A battery cell is the smallest unit inside a battery pack that stores and releases electrical energy. Battery packs are made of many cells, and charging software tries to manage them individually to balance performance, safety, and lifespan.
miles of range
"I mean, there's a world where you might buy an electric vehicle in the future that comes with 300 [1757.2s] miles of range, right? [1759.0s] And you might own it for a year."
“Miles of range” is how far the EV is expected to go on one full charge. The host is saying the car’s estimate could improve as the software learns how to use energy better.
“Miles of range” is the estimated distance an EV can travel on a full charge under specified conditions. Range can change over time if the vehicle’s software improves efficiency and if the battery’s usable capacity and calibration evolve.
system learned how to optimize
"And after a year, it now has 350 miles of range because the system learned how to optimize those [1767.2s] electrons in a better, more efficient way for the way you drive the condition that you're in."
They’re describing the car getting smarter over time. By learning how you drive and what conditions you’re in, it can manage energy better and help you go farther.
This describes an EV control strategy that uses data-driven learning to improve efficiency over time. The idea is that the vehicle can adapt its energy management to your driving patterns and current conditions, improving real-world range.
electrons
"And after a year, it now has 350 miles of range because the system learned how to optimize those [1767.2s] electrons in a better, more efficient way for the way you drive the condition that you're in."
They’re talking about the electrical charge inside the battery. The idea is that the car can use that electricity more efficiently depending on how you drive and the conditions.
In EV discussions, “electrons” is shorthand for the electrical charge carriers that move through the battery and power electronics. The point being made is that software and control strategies can improve how efficiently the system uses that electrical energy for the driver’s conditions.
edge processing
"And that's the power of getting the data processing in the vehicle, the edge processing, [1780.7s] and the software in the vehicle that is all available outside of mobility."
Edge processing is when the car thinks and makes decisions using computers inside the vehicle. That can react quickly to what you’re doing, without waiting for outside servers.
Edge processing means doing data analysis inside the vehicle (on-board) rather than sending everything to the cloud. For EVs, this enables faster responses—like adjusting charging/discharging behavior or efficiency strategies—based on real driving conditions.
road drag
"it's so huge in the aerodynamic drag and everything else, road drag."
Road drag is the resistance from the tires rolling on the pavement. Even if the car isn’t hitting wind, the tires still “fight” the road, and that uses battery energy.
Road drag is the energy loss from tires and the road surface resisting motion—mainly rolling resistance and other frictional losses. It’s a major part of an EV’s total energy use, so it influences range just like aerodynamic drag does.
current
"So what happens when I start throwing a lot more current in, right? I'm building a heat."
Current is how much electricity is flowing. If you push a lot of electricity through wires and connections, they heat up, so the car has to manage that heat.
In EVs, current is the rate of electric charge flowing through the battery, wiring, and power electronics. Higher current increases heat generation in conductors (because of electrical resistance), which is why EV charging and power delivery require careful thermal management.
bus bars
"everything from the charger, the cable going, the connector in the side of the vehicle, all the wiring to the bus bars, to the cells, everything is getting a ton of current."
Bus bars are heavy-duty metal “power rails” that move electricity around inside the battery system. Since they carry big currents, they have to be built to handle heat safely.
Bus bars are thick metal conductors that distribute high-voltage power inside an EV battery pack and power distribution system. Because they carry large currents, they’re designed to handle heat and electrical load without excessive resistance or overheating.
12-volt battery
"All right, think about a little wire and you cross it across the 12-volt battery and the thing just fries and melts."
An EV still has a smaller 12-volt battery for everyday electronics and computers. It’s not designed to handle huge currents—those would overheat and damage wiring.
The 12-volt battery in an EV powers low-voltage systems like lights, infotainment, and control modules, even though the main propulsion battery is high voltage. The key point here is that the 12V system is not meant to carry the kind of high current used for charging or traction power.
cooling system
"So you can't even put a cooling system on a lot of these vehicles to manage that."
A cooling system is how the EV keeps important parts from getting too hot. If the heat is generated faster than the cooling can remove it, components can overheat and fail.
A cooling system in an EV manages temperatures of components like battery cells, power electronics, and charging hardware. The challenge described is that when current (and therefore heat) is extremely high, passive cooling or simple add-ons may not be enough to prevent overheating.
anode
"They try to thin up the cathode and the anode in the cell, right, to give you all this range."
The anode is the battery’s negative electrode. It’s involved in moving lithium around inside the battery, which is what allows the battery to charge and discharge.
In a lithium-ion battery cell, the anode is the negative electrode. It’s where lithium ions move to during charging and where they move away from during discharge, enabling the flow of electricity.
cathode
"They try to thin up the cathode and the anode in the cell, right, to give you all this range."
A battery has two main electrodes. The cathode is the positive one, and it’s part of the chemical reaction that makes the battery produce electricity (and that gets reversed when you charge it).
In a lithium-ion battery cell, the cathode is the positive electrode. During discharge it helps drive the chemical reaction that releases electrical energy, and during charging it reverses that process.
trade-offs
"So I think there's some trade-offs that are going to happen with, all right, maybe I don't have as much range…"
With batteries, improving one thing often makes another harder. For example, aiming for faster charging can create more heat, so engineers balance range, speed, and safety together.
Battery design involves trade-offs between range, charge speed, and heat generation. Pushing for faster current flow can increase temperature and stress, so designers balance chemistry, construction, and cooling to hit the best overall outcome.
long stroke engine
"So I think we're working on both ends of those, kind of like a long stroke engine with a lot of torque and a short stroke that you can rather make a lot of power."
They’re using engine terms as a comparison. A “long stroke” engine is often associated with stronger low-end pull (torque), while a “short stroke” is often associated with making power at higher revs—here, it’s just a way to explain balancing battery goals.
The host uses “long stroke engine” as an analogy: in engines, a longer stroke tends to favor torque characteristics, while a shorter stroke can favor higher power potential. They’re mapping that idea to battery design trade-offs between torque/power-like outcomes (charge speed vs range).
hill climb racing
"We've done some hill climb racing with them."
Hill climb racing is when cars race up a steep course, usually trying to set the fastest time. The uphill layout makes it harder to get traction and accelerate cleanly.
Hill climb racing is a motorsport discipline where cars race against the clock on an uphill course, often with tight turns and changing elevation. Because the route is short and steep, traction and power delivery matter a lot, especially for acceleration out of corners.
time attack
"It's a cool little time attack car if you want to do time attack."
Time attack is a racing style where the goal is to set the fastest lap time. Instead of racing side-by-side, you’re trying to beat your best time by driving the best line and braking smoothly.
Time attack is a motorsport format where drivers try to set the fastest single lap (or best time) on a course, usually with limited practice and multiple runs. It’s less about wheel-to-wheel racing and more about optimizing traction, braking, and line choice for the clock.
under NDA
"Sometimes we work with OEMs. We're under NDA, Watson Development."
Under NDA means they’re legally not allowed to talk about certain details publicly. It’s common when companies are working on new or sensitive car projects.
Under NDA means the speakers are bound by a non-disclosure agreement, so they can’t publicly share details about certain projects or partnerships. In automotive contexts, this often happens with prototype work, supplier development, or OEM collaborations.
electric racing
"But I think electric racing is just like any other industry. It's evolving."
Electric racing is racing with battery-powered cars instead of gas engines. Teams have to manage battery energy and cooling, and they often use regenerative braking to recover power.
Electric racing refers to motorsport competition using battery-electric vehicles instead of internal-combustion engines. The big engineering differences are how power is delivered instantly, how energy is conserved, and how systems like cooling and regenerative braking are managed lap-to-lap.
Formula E
"Even groups like Formula E is cool to see what they're doing, how they're evolving."
Formula E is a racing series where the cars are fully electric. It’s a place where teams test how well electric race cars can accelerate, handle, and manage their battery energy.
Formula E is an all-electric open-wheel racing series that showcases how battery-electric powertrains can perform in a high-stakes motorsport environment. It’s known for pushing development in areas like energy management, thermal control, and fast charging/regen strategies.
Helix
"Like I saw Helix makes a motor that weighs about 65 pounds and it has like, [2204.9s] you know, almost 800 horsepower peak, something that weighs 60 pounds."
Helix is a company the host mentions that makes electric motors. They’re pointing to Helix’s motor specs to show how impressive modern EV hardware can be.
Helix is a company mentioned here as making an electric motor. The host is using Helix’s motor specs (weight and peak horsepower) to illustrate how far EV powertrains have progressed.
horsepower
"Yeah, 110 miles an hour, 250 horsepower. ... It's almost like 315 horsepower peak, but it's almost undrivable with that much power."
Horsepower is a number that tells you how much power the car’s motor can produce. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate harder.
Horsepower is a measure of engine (or motor) power—how quickly the vehicle can do work. The hosts mention horsepower figures to describe how strong the Echo feels, even while noting it can be hard to drive at very high power.
RC car
"It's just a big, huge RC car, man, that we could fit in."
RC car means a toy car you control with a remote. They’re comparing the Echo’s feel to that kind of quick, lively response.
RC car means radio-controlled car, and here it’s used as a comparison for how the Echo feels—like a small, punchy, high-energy machine. The host is using the term to communicate the car’s “toy-like” immediacy and responsiveness rather than its actual size.
1,500 pounds
"What's that Echo weigh? About 1,500 pounds."
That’s the car’s weight. Heavier cars usually feel different to drive than lighter ones, especially when you’re talking about acceleration and handling.
1,500 pounds is the vehicle’s weight, which affects acceleration, braking, and how the car feels through corners. The hosts bring it up to contextualize the Echo’s power-to-weight feel—how “heavy” it is relative to how fast it can go.
breaking loose
"You can feel everything breaking loose."
“Breaking loose” means the tires lose traction and the car starts to slide. It’s what you feel when the grip is right at the edge.
“Breaking loose” describes when a tire loses grip and the car starts to slide instead of following the intended line. The speaker ties it to an EV’s raw feel—where you can sense traction limits and the car’s behavior in real time.
Subaru 360
"...eat, you're tucked in. And that thing, you can do 360s in that, like full 360s at 70, 80 miles an hour."
The Subaru 360 is a very small older car made by Subaru. Because it’s light and compact, it can be surprisingly easy to maneuver. People sometimes talk about it when they want to show how it can rotate and turn sharply.
The Subaru 360 is a small, vintage kei car from Subaru’s earlier era, known for its compact size and lightweight design. It’s the kind of car that often gets discussed in relation to tight maneuvering and playful driving characteristics. The podcast context about doing full 360s at highway speeds highlights how surprising its agility can be when driven hard.
360s
"And that thing, you can do 360s in that, like full 360s at 70, 80 miles an hour."
“360s” means doing a full spin—turning the car all the way around. The host is saying it’s possible but extremely hard to control.
“360s” refers to spinning the car a full rotation (a complete spin) while driving. The speaker claims the car can be spun at highway speeds, emphasizing how extreme and difficult the handling feels.
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