Big Milestones, Big Bikes, and a Big Trip to Goodwood
About this episode
Bring a Trailer's Alex Porter and Tyler catch up over beers to discuss the surprising community debate surrounding the original versus the remake of Gone in 60 Seconds. Alex shares his personal automotive origin story involving his parents' 1966 Corvette C2 Coupe, which required a full frame replacement after years in Wisconsin and inspired his Corvette book. The duo also chat about using classic office cars as unconventional meeting rooms and the ongoing struggles of running modern ethanol-heavy gasoline in vintage cars and motorcycles like the Honda CBX.
This week Alex and Tyler embark on a quick rehash of the reaction to our last (B)at the Movies episode; reminisce about the days when you could still wrap your mind around the Star Wars universe; discover Tyler's Corvette origin story (and possibly that of the frame-swapped C2); reveal the BaT staff habit of taking conference calls in various cars parked downstairs at HQ; fuel ethanol-based paranoia; and compare the lot numbers (beat #818 - Ed.) when they started at BaT to the 250,000 we've now surpassed. That of course lends itself to a discussion of the Ferrari 288 GTOthat is set to wrap up next week, one that includes Tyler casually dropping yet another surprise ride-along story.
Moving on to the bikes: the pair discuss the preponderance of cool two-wheelers in Europe and several great recent moto sales on BaT, both in the US and abroad, including a host of Vincents and a special Indian. They take a not-unexpected digression into Steve McQueen territory, pause for a Harley revelation, and finally, spend a few minutes talking about Alex's recent impromptu trip to the UK to spend some time on track at Goodwood.
Follow along! Links for the listings discussed in this episode:
12:44 Lot #250,000: 1985 Ferrari 288 GTO
15:07 1971 Ferrari Dino 246GT
15:37 One Family Since New 1971 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
19:41 Harry's Garage on YouTube
20:29 1600veloce user page
28:27 MrGodin user page
31:12 1973 Ducati 750 Sport
33:29 1949 Vincent Rapide
33:40 1952 Vincent Black Shadow
33:53 1951 Vincent Black Shadow
35:21 Ex–Steve McQueen 1931 Harley-Davidson VL
40:29 58-Years-Family-Owned 1932 Indian Four
42:09 7-Mile 2025 Harley-Davidson CVO Road Glide RR
45:41 1,147cc-Powered 1981 Honda CBX Super Sport by CBX-Tras
45:57 1970 Honda CT70H Trail
48:18 Sports_Purpose user page
48:36 Bicester Motion
50:11 13k-Mile 1999 Honda Integra Type R
54:27 Porsche 911 SWB 2.0L Cup Race Car
54:31 1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Car
56:34 Hillsborough Concours d’Elegance
56:39 BaT at the WeatherTech Vintage Weekend in Downtown Elkhart Lake and Road America, July 17-19
56:43 BaT Gathering with Local Partner 911r, July 11 at the Rose Cup Races in Portland, Oregon
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Chevrolet Corvette
"...o with cars I mean I grew up being really kind of Corvette centric being from the New York area I mean Corve..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous two-seat sports car made by the American company Chevrolet. It is designed to go very fast and look like an exotic race car.
The Chevrolet Corvette is an iconic American sports car, which transitioned to a mid-engine layout with its eighth generation (C8) starting in 2020. It is highly regarded for offering supercar-level performance, handling, and styling.
Ford Mustang
"...r aspects of this hobby and it's like oh man like Mustangs are kind of cool and all of a sudden like Alfa Ro..."
The Ford Mustang is a popular two-door sports car made by the American company Ford. It has been made for decades and is known for its sporty look and loud engine options.
The Ford Mustang is a classic American pony car, currently in its seventh generation (S650) which debuted for the 2024 model year. It remains one of the few modern sports cars to offer a traditional front-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout with an available V8 engine and manual transmission.
NCRS certification
A special stamp of approval for classic Chevrolet Corvettes. Experts inspect the car to see if every single part is exactly how it was when it was brand new in the factory, which makes the car much more valuable to collectors.
National Corvette Restorers Society certification, which evaluates Corvettes based on their historical accuracy and originality compared to how they left the factory. Cars are judged on a point system, with top-tier awards like "Top Flight" being highly coveted by collectors.
Kevin McKay
A famous mechanic and restoration expert who is known as one of the best people in the world at fixing and restoring classic Chevrolet Corvettes to perfect, factory-original condition.
A renowned Corvette restoration expert and founder of Corvette Repair Inc. in Valley Stream, New York. He is widely regarded as one of the premier authorities on classic Corvette restoration, particularly rare racing models and NCRS-certified show cars.
Pontiac Sunfire
"...d you look awesome Yeah so the car was originally Sunfire yellow which is a gorgeous color it's now silver ..."
The Pontiac Sunfire is a small, budget-friendly car made by the American brand Pontiac from the mid-1990s to the mid-2000s. It was designed to be an affordable everyday car with a slightly sporty look.
The Pontiac Sunfire is a compact car produced by General Motors from 1995 to 2005, sharing its platform with the Chevrolet Cavalier. It was designed to offer sporty styling and affordable transportation, available in coupe, sedan, and convertible body styles.
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
"...Alfa Romeo I took a meeting in the Alfa Romeo the Giulietta downstairs Oh wait Randy's rally car"
The Alfa Romeo Giulietta is a classic, small Italian car first made in the 1950s. It is loved by car enthusiasts because it is lightweight, fun to drive, and has a very stylish design.
The Alfa Romeo Giulietta nameplate has been used on several models, but in vintage rally contexts, it refers to the classic 1950s and 60s lightweight sports cars and coupes. These vehicles are celebrated for their revvy twin-cam engines, agile handling, and beautiful Italian styling.
Audi RS4
"... car as a conference room normally you sit in the RS4 I feel like Yeah I do like the RS4 it's comfortab..."
The Audi RS4 is a high-performance version of a standard Audi sedan or wagon. It is designed to look like a normal luxury family car but has a very powerful engine and all-wheel drive for excellent grip and speed.
The Audi RS4 is the highest-performing version of Audi's A4 compact executive car, developed by Audi Sport GmbH. Known for its Quattro all-wheel-drive system and aggressive styling, older generations like the B7 are legendary for their high-revving, naturally aspirated V8 engines.
Viton
A high-tech type of rubber used for seals and hoses in a car's engine. It is special because it doesn't break down when exposed to modern fuels, which contain ethanol that can eat through older, regular rubber parts.
A brand of synthetic rubber and fluoropolymer elastomer commonly used to make fuel system seals, O-rings, and hoses. It is highly resistant to chemical degradation, making it essential for vintage cars running modern ethanol-blended gasoline.
Byd Seal
"...rom that era too You have to replace a lot of the seals probably with biton just for modern fuel So that ..."
The BYD Seal is a modern, fully electric four-door car made by the Chinese company BYD. It runs entirely on battery power and is packed with modern technology inside.
The BYD Seal is an all-electric compact executive sedan produced by Chinese manufacturer BYD Auto, utilizing their advanced 'cell-to-body' structural battery technology. It is designed to offer high range, fast charging, and a tech-forward interior.
ethanol fuel
A type of gasoline sold at normal gas stations that has alcohol mixed into it. While it is fine for modern everyday cars, it can damage older classic cars by attracting moisture and eating away at old rubber hoses and metal parts.
Gasoline blended with ethyl alcohol (typically 10% to 15% in standard pump gas), used to reduce emissions. While fine for modern cars, ethanol is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and can corrode metal and degrade rubber components in vintage fuel systems.
Honda NSX
"...try Arco found along with Randy Yes, we sold your NSX and no reserve didn't you yeah, but totally diffe..."
The Honda NSX is a two-seat sports car made by the Japanese company Honda. It is famous for being very fast and handling like a race car, while still being as easy and reliable to drive as a normal family car.
The Honda NSX is a mid-engine sports car that originally debuted in 1990, developed with input from Formula 1 driver Ayrton Senna. It is celebrated for combining exotic performance and handling with everyday usability and reliability.
Ferrari 288 GTO
"We should talk about 250k a little bit. Are you a 288 GTO guy? I mean, yes, how could you not be... I'm a 288 GTO guy. I always gravitate towards the original..."
A very rare and fast Ferrari from the 1980s that looks like a muscular version of the famous Magnum P.I. car (the 308). It was built for racing, has two turbochargers for extra power, and is highly prized by collectors today, often selling for millions of dollars.
A legendary mid-engine sports car built by Ferrari to homologate for Group B rally racing. It features a twin-turbocharged 2.8-liter V8 engine mounted longitudinally (north-south), producing 394 horsepower, wrapped in lightweight composite bodywork designed by Pininfarina.
Ferrari F50
"...o more people about this than I do do 288 f40 and f50 people tend to group into those categories or do ..."
The Ferrari F50 is a very rare, open-top sports car made by Ferrari in the mid-1990s. It used an engine designed for Formula 1 race cars, making it incredibly loud, fast, and highly sought after by collectors.
The Ferrari F50 is a mid-engine sports car introduced in 1995 to celebrate Ferrari's 50th anniversary, featuring a naturally aspirated V12 engine derived directly from their 1990 Formula 1 car. With only 349 units produced, it offered an uncompromising, open-top racing experience for the road.
Ferrari F40
"...y talk to more people about this than I do do 288 f40 and f50 people tend to group into those categorie..."
The Ferrari F40 is a rare, high-performance sports car made by the Italian company Ferrari in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It was built to be extremely light and fast, with almost no luxury features inside so it could perform like a true race car.
The Ferrari F40 is a mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive supercar built from 1987 to 1992 to celebrate Ferrari's 40th anniversary. Constructed with lightweight carbon fiber and Kevlar, it is powered by a twin-turbocharged V8 engine and is widely regarded as one of the greatest driver's cars ever made.
BMW M3
"...er Ferrari's supercar is. I think it's called the F80. Okay, but yeah, the F80 looks like speed racer o..."
The BMW M3 is a high-performance, sporty version of a standard four-door sedan made by the German company BMW. It is designed to be comfortable enough for daily driving while having the speed and handling of a race car.
The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the 3 Series compact executive car, developed by BMW's motorsport division. The G80 generation features a twin-turbocharged inline-six engine, aggressive styling, and the option of all-wheel drive.
transaxle
A single car part that combines the gearbox (which changes gears) and the differential (which sends power to the wheels). It is usually used in sports cars to help balance the weight of the vehicle between the front and back.
A major mechanical component that combines the functions of the transmission, differential, and associated components of the driven axle into a single integrated assembly. It is commonly used in mid- and rear-engine cars to optimize weight distribution.
Ferrari Mondial T
A unique four-seat, mid-engine Ferrari from the late 80s and early 90s. The 'T' in its name refers to the way the engine and transmission are arranged in a T-shape in the back of the car to help it handle better.
The final evolution of Ferrari's 2+2 mid-engine sports car, featuring a major layout change where the V8 engine was mounted longitudinally while the transverse gearbox formed a 'T' shape. This layout lowered the center of gravity and improved handling.
Bugatti Veyron
"... This is the one where totally like we've got the Veyron You've been on these pods where every once in a w..."
The Bugatti Veyron is an extremely expensive and powerful French supercar. It is famous for being one of the first modern cars to reach speeds over 250 miles per hour using a massive, highly complex engine.
The Bugatti Veyron is a mid-engine supercar introduced in 2005, famous for breaking the production car top speed record by exceeding 250 mph. It is powered by a massive 8.0-liter, quad-turbocharged W16 engine and features an advanced all-wheel-drive system.
Ferrari 550 Maranello
"...to the Ferrari dealer and it's like do I want the 550 Maranello or do I want a 1967 275 gtv 4 cam? I'm totally li..."
The Ferrari 550 Maranello is a two-seat luxury sports car made by Ferrari in the late 1990s. Unlike many other Ferraris with engines in the back, this one has its powerful V12 engine in the front, making it great for comfortable, high-speed road trips.
The Ferrari 550 Maranello is a front-engine, rear-wheel-drive V12 grand tourer produced from 1996 to 2001, marking Ferrari's return to a front-engine layout for its flagship two-seater. It is highly praised for its classic proportions, gated 6-speed manual transmission, and effortless long-distance performance.
Ford Bronco
"...umbing I still can't find one of the turbos on my Bronco Totally you can't see it anymore, but I have no i..."
The Ford Bronco is a boxy, rugged SUV made by Ford that is built specifically for driving on rough dirt trails and off-road paths. You can take the doors and the roof off to drive it completely open to the air.
The Ford Bronco is a rugged, body-on-frame mid-size SUV designed for serious off-roading, revived by Ford in 2021. It features retro-inspired styling, removable doors and roof panels, and advanced terrain management technology.
Brough Superior
An ultra-premium, historic British motorcycle brand from the early 1900s. They were known as the absolute best, most expensive, and fastest motorcycles in the world, often compared to Rolls-Royce cars.
A legendary British motorcycle manufacturer active from 1919 to 1940, dubbed the "Rolls-Royce of Motorcycles." Each bike was custom-built to customer specifications, twice-tested to guarantee performance, and famously favored by T.E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia").
L-twin engine
A special type of motorcycle engine used by Ducati. It is a two-cylinder engine shaped like the letter "L," with one cylinder pointing straight forward to catch the wind and stay cool, giving the bike a unique look and sound.
A designation used by Ducati for its 90-degree V-twin engines, where one cylinder is oriented nearly horizontally pointing forward, and the other is nearly vertical. This layout provides perfect primary balance and excellent cooling for the front cylinder.
Vincent Black Shadow
"We also have a black shadow live too. Don't we have well? We we do have a black shadow live when it rains at pours tyler... Yeah, we sold an amazing black shadow for 120 000..."
A legendary British motorcycle from the 1940s and 50s that was famous for being the fastest vehicle you could buy at the time. It is easily recognized by its beautiful all-black engine and is considered one of the ultimate collectible motorcycles.
A hand-built British motorcycle that was the fastest production vehicle in the world upon its release, capable of 125 mph. It features a 998cc V-twin engine painted in a signature black finish, integrated as a stressed member of the frame.
Harley-Davidson VL
"We also have a bike that I personally know and really really like... is the x steve mcqueen 1931 Harley bro. I saw this I thought of you immediately because it's your bike and the history. Yeah, this is I just love 1930 to 1933 Vls..."
A vintage Harley-Davidson motorcycle from the 1930s. It uses an older style of engine called a "flathead" and is famous for its beautiful, colorful paint designs that Harley used to attract buyers during the Great Depression.
A classic pre-war Harley-Davidson motorcycle powered by a 74 cubic-inch (1,210cc) side-valve "flathead" V-twin engine. Introduced during the Great Depression, it saved the company through its robust design and striking, colorful Art Deco paint schemes.
Steve McQueen
A famous Hollywood movie star from the 1960s and 70s who was obsessed with racing and fast machines. He collected rare cars and motorcycles, and his personal ownership makes any vehicle highly valuable to collectors today.
An iconic American actor and avid auto racer, nicknamed the "King of Cool." He was famous for performing many of his own driving stunts in films like Bullitt and Le Mans, and amassed a legendary collection of sports cars, motorcycles, and aircraft.
Indian Four
A vintage American motorcycle from the 1930s that is special because it has a smooth four-cylinder engine (like a car) instead of the usual two-cylinder engine found on most motorcycles of that time.
A classic American motorcycle produced by the Indian Motocycle Company, featuring an inline four-cylinder engine. Known for its smooth power delivery and elegant styling, it was one of the most luxurious and expensive motorcycles of its era.
Harley-Davidson CVO Road Glide
A top-of-the-line, incredibly fast touring motorcycle from Harley-Davidson. It is designed to look like a comfortable highway cruiser but is packed with racing technology, carbon fiber, and a massive engine that makes it perform like a superbike.
A high-performance, factory-custom touring motorcycle from Harley-Davidson's Custom Vehicle Operations (CVO) division. The ST/RR variants are inspired by the "King of the Baggers" racing series, featuring the Milwaukee-Eight 121 or 131 engine, carbon fiber components, and premium Öhlins suspension.
Honda CT70
A classic, small Honda minibike from the 1970s designed for riding on dirt trails. It is famous for its cute, chunky look, folding handlebars that let you put it in the trunk of a car, and being incredibly easy and fun to ride.
A small, trail-oriented minibike produced by Honda, also known as the "Trail 70." It features a distinctive pressed-steel "T-bone" frame, folding handlebars for easy transport, and a reliable 72cc four-stroke single-cylinder engine.
Ford F-150 Lightning
"...portunity to go To the uk on a very quick kind of lightning like I was in the office and That's when you foun..."
The Ford F-150 Lightning is a large pickup truck made by Ford that runs completely on electricity instead of gasoline. It looks like a normal truck but is very quiet, fast, and can plug in to power household appliances.
The Ford F-150 Lightning is an all-electric version of Ford's best-selling full-size pickup truck, introduced for the 2022 model year. It retains the traditional utility and styling of the standard F-150 while offering dual-motor all-wheel drive, instant torque, and the ability to export power.
Bicester Motion
A cool business park in England built on an old military airfield that is entirely dedicated to classic cars. It is home to dozens of specialized workshops that restore, store, and sell vintage vehicles.
A 448-acre automotive resort and business park located at the former RAF Bicester airfield in Oxfordshire, England. It serves as a hub for historic motoring, housing specialist restoration shops, classic car storage, and event spaces.
Goodwood Motor Circuit
A famous, historic race track in England built on an old World War II airfield. It is beloved by car fans because it still looks exactly like it did in the 1950s, and hosts races where drivers wear vintage clothing and race priceless classic cars.
A historic racing circuit in West Sussex, England, established in 1948 on the site of a former WWII airfield. It is famous for hosting the Goodwood Revival and Members' Meetings, maintaining its classic, period-correct look with no modern runoff areas.
Honda Integra Type R
A highly praised sporty Honda from the late 1990s. It is famous for having an engine that can spin incredibly fast (up to 9,000 RPM) and for handling corners so well that many experts consider it the best front-wheel-drive car ever built.
A legendary front-wheel-drive sports coupe celebrated as one of the best-handling cars ever made. It features a high-revving, naturally aspirated B18C engine with VTEC, a helical limited-slip differential, and extensive chassis stiffening and weight reduction from the factory.
Acura Integra
"... that you it's live on the site right now A honda integra type r which is a little different in the uk a be..."
The Acura Integra is a sporty, small luxury car made by Acura (the luxury division of Honda). It is famous for being fun to drive, reliable, and practical for everyday use.
The Acura Integra is a premium compact car, with its most legendary iteration being the late-1990s Type R, celebrated as one of the best-handling front-wheel-drive cars ever made. Acura revived the nameplate in 2023 as a premium liftback, culminating in the high-performance Type S variant.
Emanuele Pirro
A highly successful Italian race car driver who won the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans endurance race five times. He also raced in Formula One and now helps run historic racing events.
An Italian former racing driver who competed in Formula One before becoming a sports car legend. He is best known for winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans five times with Audi (in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006, and 2007) and serves as an FIA driver steward.
Porsche 911 (early short-wheelbase)
The very first version of the famous Porsche 911 sports car from the mid-1960s. They had a slightly shorter distance between the front and rear wheels than later models, which makes them look very classic but also makes them tricky to drive fast because the heavy rear end likes to swing out.
The earliest generation of the Porsche 911, characterized by a 2,211mm (87-inch) wheelbase. Powered by a 2.0-liter air-cooled flat-six engine, these "short-wheelbase" (SWB) cars are prized for their pure design but are notoriously tail-happy due to their rear-engine layout.
Chevrolet Camaro
"... by the time this is out Amazing green second gen camaro that anyone who's watched goodwood has seen drivi..."
The Chevrolet Camaro is a sporty two-door car made by Chevrolet. The 'second generation' refers to models built in the 1970s, which are famous for their sleek, muscular shape and loud V8 engines.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a classic American pony car, with the second generation (produced from 1970 to 1981) being highly celebrated for its fastback styling and racing pedigree. These cars are popular in vintage racing events due to their aggressive looks and tunable V8 engines.
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