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So let's dive into that race. Carson Hostivar racing aggressively.

All right. Shocker. He wrecked the bell at the end and everybody is, you know, everybody's

wanting to hear our opinion, I suppose. Everybody's got an opinion about Hostivar.

We talk about him at length here about his, you know, his style.

I think Denny might have said like, he's tired, like he's going for it. Yeah, he's

going for it, but you're also ruining people's races now. And at some point, it's got to bite

you, right? Oh, I mean, he don't care. But is anybody actually going to truly pay him back?

I don't know. I mean, why are we going to debate this? What is or who it will? Hypotheticals?

That's what TJ is saying is going to bite you back, but is it? I don't know. Maybe not.

You can't keep wrecking people without him. I don't, I get so sick of that.

We're here right now to talk about whether this is his fault or not his fault.

And I think it's clear that, you know, he's, he bears the responsibility for everything

that happened right there, right? You know, does somebody come, you know,

does this come back on him? We don't know. We do not know. And I'm not going to,

I don't want to waste time on this show going, well, yeah, I bet somebody gets him back.

Oh, you don't think somebody will get him back? I bet they do. I bet they don't.

No, we're supposed to do talk about racing stuff. I mean, I mean, Blaney gets a text

message and he's okay, but he's cool. Blaney talks about it. I just don't see

these drivers talk a big game about, and they never really truly go, like,

do something to him. I agree.

Well, all right, I'll play this game. I feel like that eventually, yes, somebody will,

will do something. Yeah, I do. I think that there'll be a time when, you know, somebody,

and it may be Denny, you know, that says, you know what, my race is, you know, I'm not

having a good race today. And you are. And you are. And it's my, it's my chance. I'm already

going to finish, you know, wherever. So here's my, you know, we'll just go ahead and make it

hard on you. How'd you like that? You know, so I mean, I definitely think that that, that will

happen. I know the, the guys will, I know the drivers get out of the car and they'll say,

well, he's going to regret that one these days. And we don't see anything, but eventually, yes,

eventually enough's enough and somebody will, will drop the hammer. You know who it might be?

Who? Could be anybody. Could be, could be Gregson. Gregson likes to be the,

the messenger. Yeah, he likes to be the delivery. He does. It's going to need to be

a driver that's not racing for a championship because you can't afford to wreck yourself and

I don't think anybody's going to have to wreck themselves. No, you don't have to wreck yourself.

No, it's pretty easy to do if you do it right. Like if you know what you're doing. Yeah.

Well, but is he going to learn from like, do we think he changes like Ross? No,

finally changed. No, it's going to take two or three times for some. This is who

it's who he is, man. This cat's different. I don't think that he has the,

and this is not a knock at all. I just don't think he has the ability to have the

remorse or, or listen, I mean, I know he, I think he does understand right from wrong.

I think he does know when there's, when he makes a mistake or he doesn't do something

just right or he makes a bad decision or whatever. Right? He's gotten out done interviews. We've

heard him talk. We know that he has common sense, but I don't know that he,

I don't know that he's going to take a ton of advice from his competitors.

He might take advice from somewhere else.

I mean, he told you last year, he's not really friends with the other cup driver. So it's not

like he has a mentor to be like, Hey, like, yeah, but I mean, he probably listens to other people.

He listens to his team owners, the people inside of his shop. What are they telling him to do?

If they're telling him, Hey man, keep on being you. He's going to do what they tell

him to do. He's going to do what his people tell him to do because those are the people

that matter. Those are the people that just gamble. Those are the people that just

committed to him. He had to sign that extension. Yeah. So like he, those are his,

those are the people he's going to listen to. He's not going to listen to, you know,

Danny or, or Logano or anybody else. Those are, those are the people that are signing

his paycheck or those are the people that are responsible for his future, his opportunity that

he has right now. So he's going to listen to what his team owners say, you know,

and, and his crew chief and all his people that he trusts, all his friends in his circle.

If they're all telling him, don't change, keep being you. That's probably what we're

going to get. I think there's one thing that I would love for you to put in a clip.

Denny doesn't like it. He said so on his podcast that the competitors aren't happy,

but the media is. Well, he's right. The media loves it. This is while I know that this is a

big massive thorn in the side of any of the drivers that are in this guy's wake.

Um, it is great for the sport to have at least a couple guys out there

willing to shoot the gap, you know, willing to try to make a hole where there's not a hole,

willing to try to, um, kind of like, you know, Brad keselowski at Texas, right? When he drove

through, uh, Jeff Gordon and they end up, you know, Jeff, very similar, very similar

situation. Brad was that guy back then. He was going for the hole. He was going to take

you know, he's going to go for it and it pissed people off and it barrel, you know,

filled out onto pit road and we had that incredible scene. And this is who host of our is in our

sport badly needs a couple guys like that in the field. Oh, it's so good to have them. So bad.

All right. So Dario Franckini on the Dale Jr. download. He is coming

remote. So tell me, I guess, how this did come about. So was it as simple as a little

conversation with Jimmy? Had you been telling Jimmy, you know, Hey man, you know, your car

owner now, you know, you know, Jimmy as well as I do. Yeah. So, um, I had seen that they announced

that trucks are going to race at St Pete on Saturday and Dickson and I have always talked

about the MX five race as same people like we should do the MX five race. That'll be so much fun.

And now, now he's talking about he wants to do it at Daytona, but he's slightly insane.

Right. But I say, okay, I want to do something. I think Pete's a track of love. Can I, you know,

well, that would be fun. That would be fun to do that. And so Jimmy and I at the time,

Jimmy and Shani and the girls were in London and we, we'd meet up a lot and we were sitting

having a glass of red. And I said to him, did you see the truck thing? That looks fun.

I wonder if we should actually look at trying to do that. And Jimmy's, we had a bit of a

conversation back and forwards. And I literally think it was the next morning,

Jimmy calls and says, a man, I found your truck.

Oh, what? I said, I found your truck. I said, Oh, is it a good truck? He said, well, it's a team

called TriCon. And I'm like, well, TriCon that won the championship and just, you know, on the

Charlotte Rovals smashed everybody's doors in. And yeah, them. Oh, okay. So it's a good truck.

Yeah. He's like, yes, good truck. And I'm going to drive it in San Diego. I said,

okay, well, we need to get a sponsor. He's like, yeah, we'll work on that, you know,

with, with Legacy and the Legacy Motor Club and all that. He said, well, we'll work on it. You

work on it. I'll work on it. So the next thing he calls me, he says, hey, Dollar Tree on board.

Sweet. He's like, yeah, they love the idea. He said, I'm going to come on the box and I'm

going to advise you from the box. Like he used to do with me and IndyCar. I'm like, oh, here

we go. So Dollar Tree came on, Pie Barker came on board and Scott Borshetta with Borshetta Bourbon

came on board. So all this thing happened. And then, yeah, I mean, honestly, Jimmy has been

the driving force behind it. He's, he's getting such a kick out of, out of me getting back in,

in the car. You know, we were, we've raced at Goodwood together. We won in

Aston Martin DB4 GT, which Jimmy put a rather sizable dent in it. But

and then he, then we went to Spa in the 20, the six hours of Spa in a 4 GT 40,

which, you know, so we've, we've done some great racing together recently. And he could see that

I wanted to, wanted to do something. And he's, he's helped me make it happen. So

I think, I think I have to thank him. We'll see you after Saturday.

Yeah, I would. You know, that's Jimmy. He, he got me into road biking. He got me on snow skis.

Like he's that kind of guy that's like, oh, you've never tried this? Well, you got to try this.

And I've got a guy, I'll fix it up. Don't worry. It's all here. Here. He handle, he just

puts it all out in front of you. Like, here you go. You're on, you know, first class

operation every time. Let's go. Yes.

But you've, you've experienced what I've experienced. I think, I think fans think of Jimmy

is this very buttoned up, very, you know, he's so sort of structured and polished.

You and I know different. We know that he gets this twitch in his eye and that can mean

you're about to get in a competitive situation with him and you're going to finish second.

Or you're going to go skiing with him or something. He skis like a lunatic. He's, you know,

and he's, you know, I think he's one of those, we're so lucky to have him as a friend. He's,

he's nuts. He invited me and some other great friends on a trip

and to, to Europe. And we actually ended up at dinner with your wife, which was incredible.

And I swear I, I've never been to London or never been to Europe. I've been to German,

Germany, but I'm never really spending much time there. And I mean, we were in the

top end places. It was just like a hotel everywhere. We went to eat first class

out of the, out of the park and felt like I was on another planet, like a really cool planet.

But it was so insane. My, my Amy told me to, to tell Ellie, I guess, to, to tell her hello.

But we had it right, right back out. Yeah. Ellie had fun. She told me all about it. I was so,

I was so jealous. I was the fish out of water, man. I was, I was so out of my element,

but you just, when you're in those moments with Jimmy, you just trust,

like he knows where he's going. He knows what, what you're, he's not going to put you

in a bad spot. But I was like, man, I don't, I have no idea where I'm at.

And you went to Scotland, didn't you? We did, we did go to Scotland, which was,

that was a little more, that was a little more my speed. Like we were out in the wilderness.

Yes. Drinking beer and riding, you know, out in the woods, riding these bikes down,

down this long creek and out in the middle of nowhere. It was so awesome.

And the old place, the old inn where we stayed, the hotel we stayed in was just very

vintage and it's like I've been there for 500 years or more.

It probably had. Yeah, right. And so we, and we went into this town we stayed at,

and you know this, but I'm saying it's for the listeners, we stayed in this little town,

maybe, maybe 300 people live there. And we went to the local tavern and hung out with

all the locals. And I mean that right there is right in my wheelhouse. I want to do that

kind of stuff right there. You and me both.

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This guy bed on Bubba. That came in at 8.30 on Friday morning. That's an early

that was it. That was the whole call. That was the whole call. I called that in when I got to

that. I do that every day. Where were you Friday morning? I don't know. Trace that call.

Playing with your llama? Yeah. Yeah. What is that llama? What's with my llama?

He protects our goats. Yeah. Lamas are great to like small livestock. Did he make an escape?

Like, when did you get into farming? Does it spit at you guys? Does it spit at you guys?

She loves. Yeah. She likes doing it. Is she from farming for llamas? Yeah. She's from llamas.

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what am I going to say? No. When you bought the house, did you envision the backyard being full

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we got three goats. They're Nigerian dwarf goats. And then we have a llama and I guess

chickens are coming. And I heard we're going to get three male goats now so we can breed

the females because she wants goat milk. Okay. So and we have a three month old.

Do you need to treat the llama better? Where did he blow? I heard he made an escape.

He did make an escape. Yeah. I was feeding Charlie like two weeks ago. And it's like

7.38 in the morning. And this was like when it was cold. Like it was before snowed,

but it was like teens. And my wife's friend who was staying with us, she's like,

she came down. She's like, Hey, are your animals supposed to be like free roam?

What are you talking about? They're like, no, they're in the front yard right now.

Like, I was like, you're messing with me. She's like, no, they're in the front yard.

I was like, Oh, I run outside. Shorts, no shoes, socks, no shirt, freezing. And I yell at my

goats. They're like probably $200 away from my front porch in the front yard. And I yell at

my goats and they come running towards me and they're yelling like the goats are like

going crazy running towards me. And if they could speak English, I think they were Spanish.

What did they speak? I don't know. If they could use English, I know they were probably saying like,

look what he did. We didn't do that. That's what the way they were screaming at me. So they come

up to me and he's just looking at me like 200 yards down the way. I'm like, and this is like,

he's like two weeks. The llama. We're talking about yeah, the llama. Like we got him like

two weeks ago. So I'm like, geez, man. So he broke out of our fence, like just busted through

350 pounds. What is the neighbors think about all this going on this farming? My neighbors aren't

close. So I think my neighbor caused it personally. And this is allegedly

if she doesn't listen to this podcast. So llamas right there, they don't like like Fox's coyotes.

That's what they protect against. So they'll freak out if there's a fox or coyote around. So

I don't think there was a fox or coyote, but I think my neighbor's dogs, they sometimes just

run over through the woods. And I think our dog was out there probably barking at this llama

and he was like, I'm going to get this. And so I was kind of proud of him for breaking out.

Doing your job. I don't want you to break through this thing, but like you had a goal

and you were trying to get this dog. Not makes me feel good for when my dogs are around him.

But yeah, he broke out. So we had a we had a rass on back in and we then we had to reinforce

our fans. Yeah, he does not spit. I know you've asked that question.

But did I make that up? Do llamas spit? So I learned a lot about him from the guy I

got him from. And I brought that question up. I was like, gosh, you know, all you read

about his llamas, they spit at you and stuff like that. But that's he's like, Oh no, he's like,

that's if they're like in petting zoos and stuff and they get hand fit all the time and

then they get mad. You're not I would start spitting at people too. Yeah. And it's not even saliva.

Like, oh, I heard this somewhere. Like they regurgitate and then they spit vomit at you,

which is even worse. It does make you nervous. Like if he'll get in your face, you're like,

are we doing this right now? I'm going to box this. I'm going to lose.

Like if I'm not going to win, but he has not spit on me yet, but it's been a couple of times. I'm

like, is today the day? Today might be the day. That's funny. Next one is less of a question,

more of a demand in quotations there where it's not mine. They need the mustache care

routine, please. Is there one? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got little scissors. I trim it up.

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Have we started to curl it at all? Were you going to get away with that? No. I mean,

that's too much when I do get the curly flies. You put the oils in it. I put a little,

like it's like beard butter just to where they don't get super, you know, it's just

like everything hair and stuff. I mean, you put something in your beard. Right. Yeah.

It's just like a butter. Yeah. He puts beer in there. It's about beer butter. I will say though,

it's a pain to eat. It's very difficult. Like wings are a disaster. I'm a big,

I'm a big pasta guy too. Pasta sucks. Like Alfredo. It must be like outweighing all this or what?

I live with it. Yeah. I like it too much. It's a flavor saver, man.

Gianna's good with it. She's the reason I have it. Yeah.

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hand a bar and then I got to this and she's like, oh, that actually looks fairly decent.

I was like, okay, I'll keep it. How about your other boss?

Yeah, you've kind of changed the old Penske way, you know? Yeah. I mean, he,

I think he likes it. Has he told you so?

He hasn't said he doesn't like it. I know he's been overseas for a while,

but has he even seen it? Yeah, he's seen it. It was funny though,

cause when Joey and I walked in the shop, like one bald guy and one guy with a

mustache. Well, so like we go into for Penske production day, like, you know,

a few weeks before the season and then when we do all our photos and I got this,

Joey went shave, but he also has got the beard. And he and I both saw each other and were like,

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person, every single podcast was talking about this person this week. So let's bring him in to

see what he thinks about all this. Carson Hosevar is once again post Atlanta the talk

of the NASCAR podcast universe. I don't know if that's a term. I need to make that a,

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So the man himself, what do you, what do you make of all this conversation about yourself

once again this week? Yeah. I mean, I mean, last year was pretty much, you know, a little

deja vu, but I think our cars are faster that, you know, for me, I felt like last year was a shock.

We were second and then contention where this year I feel like we've, there's been four races if

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our trajectory here. You know, we had a shot to win both points paying races.

You said you told Sirius that, you know, you saw this move open up for a second.

You saw the middle. And then by the time you got there, it was closed, but obviously did result

in contact with Christopher Bell. So how do you, do you have to reach out to him and clean that up?

How did you approach that? Or will you have a conversation with him about that?

Yeah. Well, so, you know, I, I had an idea for the middle. So it was very top of mind. You

know, I sat there on a red the whole time thinking about, you know, the, you know,

just opportunities, right? And, you know, I got three Chevy's behind me. I'm going to go top.

Am I going to go middle? Where am I going to go? And, you know, I, last year I hit Bell and

filled middle on him. And I remember him saying he was, didn't even know I was there. Like,

did not, like when I got next to him, he was, he didn't even know that happened. You know,

I, he didn't even know it happened. So I kind of obviously remembered that, that he

might give up the middle. I mean, I, you know, he's obviously really, really good,

championship contender, he multiple years, but I was shocked when I heard he,

he didn't even know how I did that and how I got there. So you remember that, that stuff and

felt like when I saw the 43, you know, the 22311 car separated and I saw a huge run from Ross and

a shove and they just started to open up just a little bit that right before I got the push,

I was like, if I get a big enough shot, I could kind of get there and spook him and scare him. And,

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know, if it's half an inch or an inch, not enough, maybe I could fit in there and by the

time I get there, you know, it kind of, I kind of squeezed through and sees maybe part.

And I think they started to, to rate when I got the shove, it started open and it started to close.

So instead of an inch closed, which I was hoping for, by the time I got there was probably

two to three. And so it turned him and everything. So, yeah, I don't, I mean,

I don't know. I feel like we're, we're racy. I, I mean, I don't know what I, what I,

me saying anything would, would do for him, right? It, you know, he,

I don't really like the conversation stuff. Like, I feel like, you know, if he has to race me

harder, like, I mean, saying anything is not really going to change that if I need to let

him go every now and again, and, you know, give him an extra inch, you know, as, as, as a, you know,

my, I feel like everything's just on the racetrack and then the rest is just noise. So, you know,

I like, I texted Blaney, but like I didn't text Blaney as like, you know, I'm, I'm, you know,

I texted Blaney because I don't like that stuff, even when I'm on the receiving end,

like, I'm like, okay, well this, you know, I'm never going to get text from somebody that

wrecked me as an apology. You know, I'm never going to get text that's not an apology. It's always a

text, you know, of like, do you actually mean this or are you nervous? Are you covering your bases

for next week? You know, it's, I always think of that. So I feel like, you know, just actions

mean a lot more on the racetrack and that's just important. But like I texted Blaney mainly

because I was fighting demons in my race car at that point and super tight and I pounded the

fence in front of them and I just wanted to let him know why I did that. And I was like,

I'm so sorry. Like I had to make them change my car. I was really, really tight. I knocked the fence

down three times myself because I'm so bad in dirty air. You know, I just wanted to tell him why I did

that and not like, I was just trying to block you and just running in the fence. You know,

because I thought that dialogue is better than, Hey, I just wrecked you. Please don't wreck me

next week. Here's an apology text. Yeah, that was really interesting. I heard Blaney say that

on doorbumper clear and it perked my ears up because, you know, you've said in the past that

what you just explained, it was interesting though, I don't know. You probably saw the

clip of Richard Petty on his podcast this week and I'll read the quote. He said,

that boy in the 77, he has him a time. A lot of the things he's getting by what they're

doing are not really that wrong. If I go back and watch him run, he reminds me of Dale

Earnhardt, Earnhardt learned to get by with that stuff. That boy in the 77, he's just

going to have to learn to get by with the things that he's doing. And that struck me as

interesting Carson, because I think that a lot of us have felt like, well, you're young and

once you learn the ways of cup, you'll, you know, be like all the other drivers that they're all

saying, Oh, he'll learn, he'll learn, he'll figure it out. But here's Richard Petty saying,

well, actually, he might be able to just get by with learning how to deal with this stuff

and still have success on the racetrack, which is the first time I'd ever heard

one of the older guard people say that about you. I guess, did you hear that comment? And

what did you think of what he said? I did. I mean, it's super cool, right? I love old races.

Like I love 2000s, 1990s, even the 80s. So it's been really cool. Like I didn't even know Rick

Mass had a podcast that he talked about it. And like, you know, I had in all these clips that,

you know, I was just kind of laughing. And, you know, I kind of just made the

joke to my buddies. I was like, I was like, Hey, I might not be, you know, everybody's favorite

driver, but I'm their favorite driver's favorite driver. Like I was like, I don't know why. I don't

know. Like I'm just, I'm just out there racing. I'm not anybody. I'm not trying. I'm not, you

know, out there like, what famous race car driver am I going to play pretend today about?

I'm just, I'm, I'm just racing. And I am going to be super aggressive. And, you know,

I don't, I'm not thinking about, oh, I'm going to, how can I, you know, play mental mind games

to get away with this? Or how can I do this? I'm just, I'm just getting after it. And, you know,

I, you know, if, if anybody wants to, you know, settle the score or whatever,

I don't know if they're going to like this, like, like, you know, like, you know,

then I feel like, you know, anytime I do it unintentionally, right? I'm just like,

man, I, I'm sorry. Like there was, there was a tension. I used to example in CSM of just like,

man, everybody, when you go skeet shooting, you might shoot 10 feet off or five feet off or even

close, but the intention is you're going out there to hit the thing. You're going out there to

shoot the thing. You might close one eye. You might have one eye open. You might have two

eyes open. You might hold the thing close. Like you have different ways to try and get

the same result, but the attention's still there. You're not just, oh, let's just hold

the gun sideways and around backwards and see if it somehow flips around and shoots the skeet. Like

there's a tension with everything I do. Like there's a tension of like,

you know, if that, that barely started open, there's one inch. I think I can make it happen and,

and barely squeeze in and kind of rub off of them and be fine because that's what the next

gen seems to reward. You know, the clash, you saw it just, everybody just goes in there,

leans on everybody, rolls through the corner and goes off. So these cars are kind of

indestructible and they reward that a little bit. So, you know, doesn't have to be a full

gap anymore. So, you know, I, I think, you know, if anybody wants to, you know, per se,

settle the score, you know, that's intention. And, you know, I feel like that's, that's,

that's two points on the score part versus my maybe one, you know what I mean? And then

we're not really even. So that's how I've always looked at it.

Well, I was also, you know, in terms of people talking about you, obviously the nickname

Hurricane has now gone from NBC over to Fox as well. I don't think I've heard from you. What,

what do you think of that nickname? Is that something that you like? Is that something

that you're, we're going to see on a t-shirt or you, you, you hope it for something, something

better? Yeah, well, I wasn't sure how much they were going to use it because obviously

it was Lee Diffie's thing. And then we were switched over and I was like,

man, you're not even going to hear that thing till next year in the fall. And I was like,

I don't know. They might have something different. But when foster, I was like, okay, well,

I guess we can make a shirt or something. I don't know. But I, you know, I, I take it as a

compliment. You can't nickname yourself anything. So it's got to come natural and it's got to

come from somebody else. Dale Jr. said that too. I heard that. So I did listen there.

But yeah, I take it as a compliment that we're running good enough that they want to,

you know, help the sport and, you know, I think it's, it's a value for their time to

think of something. So yeah, I'm all for whatever they want to do.

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