BONUS EPISODE - Overland EXPO MTN WEST, Loveland, CO

I am here now, this time at Overland Expo in Loveland, Colorado, so this is my third event

to attend, and so this is a bonus episode for Overland Expo.

I figured I would just do the intro while I'm here, rather than wait and go back to

my quote-unquote studio in my closet.

So right now I'm looking at the Forester Hybrid that Cary is building out for the Rebel Rally

with the help of Milton and Subaru of America, and of course some build partners.

And seeing this thing in person is pretty incredible.

It looks absolutely amazing.

They've got the Mountain Subi, Subaru USA, Silver Bullet XB, XV on the back.

They've got their Instagram handles there.

So yeah, the color is really, really nice.

This blue is amazing.

And being that it's a hybrid, of course that's great too.

And this thing, if you are following and watching their journey on Instagram, this

car is pretty amazing.

It's doing some really, really cool stuff off-road.

So I think it's going to do amazingly well at the Rebel Rally.

So thank you, Subaru, for partnering with Mountain Subi and putting this thing to the test this

year at the Rebel Rally.

That's going to be super, super cool.

We also have here in the Overland Expo booth, there's a Cross Trek Wilderness.

It's the blue color, I guess hyper blue.

I'm not sure exactly what color it is.

It's got some rock sliders on it, front bumper guard with some lights, and also some ditch

lights and a rooftop basket, some LP Adventure wheels.

And it's looking really good.

Really, really good.

Oh, and it's also got a rear tire swing.

So Subaru, you can just ship that to my house or my apartment whenever this is over.

Thank you very much.

Okay, okay, scratch that because I found out later on that that is Robert Champion's Cross

Trek, so I don't think that'll work out having that shipped to me.

I mean, not that they would do that anyway, but I thought that was kind of funny.

And because it's a really, really nice Cross Trek, it looks really great.

And of course, me owning a Cross Trek and, you know, wanting to eventually get a new

one at some point, but also keeping Pearl, that's probably the most logical plan at some

point.

But yeah, I don't think that Robert would appreciate anybody shipping that to me, because that's

his.

Yeah, she had to throw that in there real quick.

And then of course, we've got the big love sign up here where people can take pictures

and post them up there.

And then we've got Troy with his outback wilderness talking to people.

And his build, of course, looks completely amazing.

With all of the modifications that he's done to it, it looks really, really good.

Then you've got the owner lounge, which is really nice.

People in here are chilling, having some snacks and drinks, picking up some little

bit of merch.

And then we have Betsy Blackie with Basaltic Outback.

And she's got hers here on display with a lot of really nice accessories on it.

She has, I'm not exactly sure what it's called, but it's a little like the step that you

can put on your tire so that it looks like you can get to your roof rack a little bit

easier.

And she, of course, has the Subaru Outback Wilderness.

And she's got it fitted out for car camping really well.

And I see a wee boost up there, too.

That's nice.

Then, of course, there's the Subaru Wilderness badge on display here.

And then lastly, we've got the little stage where Carrie and Milton are currently doing

a little demonstration or talk about modifying your Subaru.

I was up at the stage before, right before them talking to Tanya.

I had her on the podcast in this episode.

And then now I'm heading over.

We've got a Wilderness Forester, which looks really, really nice.

It's also the same color as the Cross Trek, the Hyper Blue, I believe is what it's called.

And they've got it kitted out in the back with a little dog, like a shed, portable dog

shed or something, and then the ramp.

So yeah, this is Overland Expo in Loveland, Colorado.

Oh, one more thing.

We've got the little trailer over here that, like the pull-behind trailer with the topography

and everything on it.

That looks really nice.

It's also got a rooftop tent, bunch of merch in the back, so nice, nice little setup here.

So that's Overland Expo, Loveland, Colorado, Mountain West.

I was planning to record everything, the whole intro from there, record it from the

event.

But I can't help myself.

I get back here to edit, and there's just something about having the headphones on and

talking into the mic that it's just, it's a lot different.

It's something, but it's like the experience of it.

With this bonus episode, it's going to be like the other ones where I will introduce

the first day, and then I just let the conversations roll, and then I will introduce the second

day just so you know that what day it was on.

But yeah, I had some good conversations and met some good people.

So they will introduce themselves for each of the conversations, so I'm not going to like

tell you here like I had this person on this day, and this, and this, and this.

So you will find out as the conversations come.

But before we get into those conversations, I just want to say thank you again so much

to Subaru and Joe for bringing me out to Overland Expo and allowing me to be a part of

this journey and a part of Overland Expo 2025, since this is the first time that Subaru has

officially participated.

I really appreciate it.

I had such a great time.

Everybody else had a great time.

It was such a great space, and we've got one more event to go to.

I'm looking forward to that, and I'm looking forward to meeting new people and seeing

new friends again.

So yeah, we will get into this conversation here from Overland Expo, Mountain West, and

Loveland, Colorado.

Oh yeah, and of course we're going to start off with day one, which was Friday.

So that's what these conversations right here are going to be.

Alright, we're here at Overland Expo, Mountain West, and yeah, it's just audio.

So we're here at Overland Expo and Mountain West in Loveland, Colorado.

We're here in what somebody called the Subaru Oasis when we were in Oregon, which seems

like more appropriate for this.

So why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself, because I have my first guest here.

Hello Rafael, my name is Tanya, and yeah, I'm a content creator from Mexico, but now

I'm living in Bellingham, Washington, and I'm so excited to be here in Loveland,

Colorado.

This is my first Overland Expo.

This whole world is just so new to me, and I'm just so thankful that you have

me here.

So what brought you to Overland Expo, and specifically to the Subaru Oasis?

So yeah, good question.

I have a Forester Wilderness 2024 that I got last year, brand new from the agency or

the dealership, and ever since I got it, I just kind of had this wild dream of making

it into an adventure car, and I already do a lot of travels, and before I wasn't driving

that much, and now that I'm in the States, I'm literally enjoying the freedom of having

your own car and being able to drive everywhere.

So it just makes sense to be here and learn about all the brands, all the experts, like

learn about everything that I want to do to make this dream a reality.

So being that you have a Subaru and a Forester, you're in the right spot, and wanting to do

more with it, because there are a few cars here with people that can definitely help you

out, that have done some pretty amazing modifications to their Subaru's, so it's a perfect spot

to be.

No, I'm so excited.

Thank you so much.

You're welcome.

So what made you choose Subaru to purchase, and then also why a Forester Wilderness?

So yeah, it was a little bit torn between which car was I going to get, but to be honest,

the safety features that it has being a solo traveler right now, and being able to feel

secure in my car, that was like one of the highest priorities of getting this one.

I did some test drives from the cross track, like I've been out of the outback, but

the Forester was the one that made me decide to choose over it just because

of the room that it has.

The Wilderness Edition particularly was perfect for me just because of the seat, the seatings,

and then being able to put all the back seats down very quickly and just being able to

car cam quickly.

That was like wow, it has so much room, I love the moonroof, and yeah, I just fell

in love with it.

So how long, when you bought it, did you start car camping right away where you like, this

is your goal and your vision to car camp with it and among just traveling?

Well, ever since I got it, yes, that was my vision, but I didn't start right away.

I think I just started this year just because it was kind of like the winter, and then

I was doing a lot of traveling internationally, so there wasn't a lot of time to actually

enjoy the summer, but this summer I did my first car camping outside of my trailhead to

go see the sunrise and it was so beautiful and so quick and that was an amazing experience

and now I just came back from Alaska and I tested out a roof tent and I'm like yeah,

I want to have that in my car so I'm starting this journey of documenting everything, taking

people along with me for, yeah, like to see and to learn with me because I am not that

experienced in this space, this is all new to me in Mexico, like at least where I grew

up, it's not that popular, like there's like sewer ooze, like it's kind of like

new there, but this, you know, car camping, it's kind of like getting popular now,

but it's not like as crazy as it is here, I'm seeing so many beautiful vehicles and

infinite possibilities and I'm just like overwhelmed and amazed about all the options available.

Yeah, of course Subaru specific, you've got plenty of people to talk to here in the little

Subaru space, but being at Overland Expo and being able to explore all the different options

for camping and any other type of gear you might need while you're out, this is like

perfect spot for that.

Yeah, for sure, I'm very thrilled to see what else or what are the additions that

I can make to my car, like the changes or modifications I would say.

So how did you find out about Overland Expo and then how did you find out that

Subaru was at Overland Expo?

So I came to a conference in Colorado in the travel adventure space from the ATTA,

the Association of Travel Adventure, and there I connected with other people and

then told me about this Expo because I was talking about my desire of just

turning my car into the best adventure companion and they told me about this

Expo and yeah, basically I just decided to come here following this dream

randomly and come here.

So did you know that Subaru was at the Expo?

Yeah, well like once I started researching, I saw like there was a lot of

brands and I was like, well, that's cool, that's where it's going to be there.

I have Subaru and need to learn about the space.

So yeah, for sure.

And it's perfect because this is the first year that Subaru has done all of

the Expo's because last year they did like a little pilot at the first event in

California and then based on that they decided to come to Overland Expo and

attend all of the events this year, which we're all glad because it's been

it's been such a great experience and I know it's gotten a lot of great feedback.

I didn't know, but I was checking also that like in some

Subaru's Instagram account, they have a lot of people that are like you said

fans of the brand and it was like, well, that's an amazing community and I want to

be kind of part of that.

So yeah, I don't know anyone that owns a Subaru like in where I live.

Well, kind of like, but I haven't met the community, so I'm excited to

like just immerse myself in the community and be able to share

traveling experiences.

And what's nice too about the Subaru community, especially like the off-road

and overlanding community is when you like if you reach out to somebody to

ask a question, everybody is so helpful.

So like don't ever be afraid to reach out to somebody if you see somebody

that's doing something you know that you are interested in because like so

many people have experienced that where you know they're new to the

community, they're like maybe a little afraid to reach out to people,

but then they end up reaching out and are very surprised that people

are extremely helpful because like what happens with us is we see

somebody new come into the community.

We see somebody that gets a new Subaru and then we get really excited

for them, especially somebody that's really passionate and really

wanting to use their Subaru for what it was made for and beyond.

We all get super excited about that and we just want to like help

everybody with their journey.

So it's a great space to be in.

No like and I've been discovering a lot of like new things that I didn't know.

I don't know if you have heard about Rebel Raleigh.

Oh yes.

So like I just learned about that you know like I think two weeks or

something I let go before coming here and I was like wow imagine like I just

could imagine myself using my Subaru to explore and then learn all these

things and just all about learning and you know making everything work

in my favor in some ways or just like do crazy things that I haven't done before.

Yeah so the Forrester Hybrid over there that Cary is driving.

Cary has been participating in the Rebel Raleigh for the past.

I think this is going to be her fifth year and she the previous

years was driving her own outback and this year she's going to be driving

the Forrester Hybrid.

Oh my god.

And so she's been doing a lot of testing so she would be a great

person to talk to because she's actually participated for several years

as a driver and now she's got the Forrester and then of course we've got

this Forrester Wilderness right here.

What color is yours?

Mine is the green the first green I think.

Yeah they're so beautiful.

Yeah every single color of the wilderness I've seen is a good color.

Like I think but I think the white I didn't like the white that much

just because since you have the black thing at the at the hood

I just feel it's like makes a lot of contrast whether all the other colors

it's kind of like it blends in and it doesn't look as intense but yeah like

yeah you're talking about the right on the hood yeah like the black thing that

it's covering that it's kind of like so that's a good point that was like the

white it was like everything was perfect except that was like

it's just a lot of contrast and all the other ones are

more like blending in and it's just like they look beautiful.

That's a good point yeah because I have my cross-track is white

and everything on my car is black and white like I've gone with the black

and white theme. Ah but then in the wilderness you have like the

yellow like little things so that's it.

Yeah but I mean since mine is just a you know a 21

base model like it's it's funny because I was looking at a picture of it the

other day when it was stock yeah and then the way it looks now and I'm like

it just like it doesn't look like my car you know like

what it is now is like that's my car. Yeah yeah that's amazing.

Yeah so it's it's fun to build them up but so how long have you been

doing content and like what kind of content are you doing?

I have been creating content I guess over the past six years.

Oh nice. But since I'm very passionate about photography

about traveling and yeah just content creation allows me to blend

the things that I'm passionate about and now it seems that I'm passionate

about driving since I got back in Mexico I didn't

need to have a car to be honest I was like for the

past 30 years I was like I knew how to drive but I

never owned a car until I moved to the States. Okay. So yeah like before I was

afraid or anxious like to be driving you know in big cities and now that I'm

like much more confident driving like I just see

like infinite possibilities now that I'm like driving I'm like oh I can drive

anywhere everywhere I want to drive. Yeah. So it just

just made a lot of sense to also do like this car camping living here just

because the options in the United States

available for you know this type of lifestyle

are just beyond what I had imagined and I'm so excited to

explore more of that. Yeah and you're in the Pacific Northwest so you're in like

the perfect spot for that too. Yeah that's why I moved there I was

living in Houston I started living in Houston and I was like

yeah so that's you mentioned that before we started recording because I

live in Houston how long were you in Houston? For six months.

Okay where'd you live? Kind of like outskirts of like downtown so like

everything was at least 30 minutes and yeah like nature was like two hours and

oh yeah everything was like far there's no sidewalks I wanted to walk from where

I lived to downtown and it was like freaking seven

I hope it's something like that so yeah yeah Houston was not for me.

Yeah I know it's I've been there my whole life I live in west Houston

and I've said it so many times on the podcast like owning the type of

Subaru that I have living in Houston is the worst spot for it

but that's where I live I don't really you know I have kids there and family and

stuff. Funny thing I was born in Waco so yeah I was born in Texas.

Oh that's I was just in Waco last week yeah so I was driving I went to a

project for work up in McKinney, Texas and on my way back down I stopped by

Waco because I've driven through Waco I just never really stopped in Waco

so that's Carrie right there by the way so she's the one that did the

rebel rally. Perfect, that's what we tried to occur.

So you said you bought a Subaru for safety where were you doing your research to

find that out because when I bought my Subaru I didn't

buy my Subaru for safety I didn't know about the

safety features I bought it because I thought it looked cool and because I

wanted a manual but so many people that I've had on the podcast

that was a huge reason for them purchasing a Subaru is because of the

safety features so where did you do your research to find all that out?

My research was mainly done with my friends at own cars and they were like

looking it for me and they were like oh you can have these options

I was also looking at other brands and kind of testing kind of like similar

price range as well but when I bought it last year

to be honest I wanted to buy a used car but then

it was almost the same as a new car and I was like well I can get a new

car and then I just get I got a nice like interest rates

and the loan and I feel that was like the reason that I picked it

because the Subaru had a very good promotion and I was like well I want to

have the cheapest or like the lowest interest rates

and I liked the car so that was like the second highest like

there just being able to have a good financial

you know decision like in terms of buying a car

and that's why I decided to buy a new instead of used but I was like and

also the fact that Subaru holds its price for like the long term and even if

you want to sell it yeah you're gonna like you're it's gonna be a very good

investment so that's why like those were my top three reasons like safety

like the financial opportunity that I got and being able to

not have a loss when you sell yeah yeah it's good

anything else you want to share before we

well I'm very excited to start this journey of car camping and I feel I'm

in a great spot here at this Overland Expo it's

about like less it's like 10 a.m. right now almost

but yeah I feel I've got it already so much information

just for like this first day before even midday so yeah I'm so excited and stoked

about the future so before we end where can people find you

yeah my Instagram handle it at Tania Barillo like T-A-N-Y-A-B-A-D-I-L-L-O

and that's my website as well I have TikTok and I'm gonna start

a YouTube documenting like everything and seeing like sharing

more in depth of like this car camping series

okay great well it's nice to meet you and I'm sure we'll see you around for the

next couple of days yeah for sure thank you so much for

having me you're welcome

all right we're here at Overland Expo it's noon

and the weather's pretty nice it's a little overcast but this is my time

slot to record with somebody and so I found somebody to record with

who owns two Subaru's welcome to the CBNU podcast and welcome to Overland Expo

Mountain West hello hello go ahead and you can introduce yourself to

hi my name is Margie and I have two Subaru's right now

I'm on my fifth and I went back to my second

oh very nice very nice so what are the two that you own right now

I have a 2025 cross check wilderness and I have a 2018 outback okay so

before we started recording you were telling me that the cross track hasn't

been out much because I was excited to hear like how it's been doing but

you mentioned that it's hail season so you've been keeping it protected and

we live in Cheyenne and there's hail and I don't want to have a

damaged car so it's in the garage I driven it maybe

I don't know aside from home from the dealership maybe

three or four times okay and I really really like it

but I just don't want it to be all messed up

totally understandable so what made you like so you have the

2018 outback what made you decide to get into the cross track wilderness

so actually my first Subaru was a cross track in 2015

okay and I didn't really like it because

there was no power in the engine so then after that I got the 2018

outback and then after that I got another outback and then

after my second outback in 2023 I got a cross-track sport

and I absolutely loved it my mom had gotten my 2018

outback and she was ready for a new car so

she got my 2023 cross track I bought a new cross track and I took

the 2018 outback back from her to use as a hail car

okay yeah dedicated hail car dedicated hail car

hey you know I guess if that works for you you know but I mean that's

yeah the hail is that's no good I saw uh somewhere on Instagram a couple of

weeks ago some bad hailstorm it it was like

busting out car windows and stuff that happened to a lot of people in

Cheyenne our neighbor has one of those big SUVs with like

where half of the roof is glass yeah and the whole thing's completely

shattered so people had broken out windows they

had broken just everything dense everywhere

some people got it really bad some people are getting a new roofs right

now on their houses so it's but the insurance companies love that

but I guess that's what it's for yeah that's what you pay for right yeah

so what do you think about so have you been to overland expo before

we did we came last year okay so obviously Subaru wasn't at overland

expo last year but so what do you think of the Subaru space here at

overland expo I think this is really nice I have been to

another Subaru space at a ski resort okay

and um winter fest it was a winter fest okay

yes it was in um lake Tahoe oh nice um but this is a way this is a way better

set up probably because the weather has something to do with it right

yeah but that one they just pretty much had vehicles

okay um this one is definitely I mean there's obviously vehicles here but

there's kind it's kind of more interactive I guess

which is pretty cool yeah it's I I like it uh because it's more open it doesn't

really feel like a booth you know it's just yeah for sure and when I was in

an uh Oregon I was talking to a gentleman there and he said he said he feels like

it's more of like a Subaru Oasis because of the way that it's set up

that makes sense yeah and the lounge is really nice yeah the owner now just

really cool and then it's nice to see some factory vehicles on display

and then also vehicles that people have done some really nice modifications to

yeah I always like I mean but that's kind of the theme of this whole event right

as modified vehicles so I definitely think that's fun

plus I mean it's always nice to see what you can do I don't really know

that I'm gonna go off-roading in my wilderness okay

um my joke right now with my husband is no more hobbies

and yeah and I really enjoy my mountain bikes so

okay I think I'd rather if I had the time I think I would

rather go ride my bike than yeah go off-roading

so what got you interested in Subaru in the first place

um value yeah at the time when I got my first one

um we just we were kind of looking for an

interim car okay and it was you know it's always nice to get a new car

as opposed to a used car yeah and it was just it was a really good value

and so we got it and then I was just honestly

I've always been blown away by what you get

in a Subaru yeah and it seems like anytime I compare to another brand

um yeah I just you just don't get as much

yeah and so I feel like I kind of always end up coming back to the

Subaru because of that and the all-wheel drive system is

it's so good it works really well

really really almost a little too well I have to tell you

there's a really wide street um near my house

and when it gets about a foot of snow on it okay

um I really like I like to drive down it and get a little loose

oh yeah and um and the all-wheel drive system works a little too well for

that so it doesn't let you have as much fun as you

want to it doesn't let me have as much fun as I want to

exactly um or even like out in a parking lot just

trying to like with the little snow trying to drift a little bit yeah

it really wants to catch but then on the same you know

same token driving down the street in snow

with traffic and cars on the freeway whatever I feel

like my cars got me back yeah I had I had somebody on the podcast a long

time ago that was I think he I think he had rented a

cross track or was interested in buying a Subaru or something I

can't remember the whole story but it was a snow storm and he was driving

down the street in this cross track and there was like

so many other cars off the road because they just slid off the road

and he said he even saw some jeeps you know that had slid off the road

and he said the Subaru was just going right through had no problems made at

home and and I was you know at the time I was I hadn't

driven through snow before and I was like man I want to experience that because I

live in Houston but living in Houston we do get a lot of rain

and yeah trying to get those especially an underpowered car trying to get it to

drift is difficult but it also makes me feel good

that the all-wheel drive system is that good that when

I'm driving in heavy rains I'm not as worried about

you know I mean you could potentially hide your plane because if there's water

there's water isn't that you can do about that but like turning going up and

down hills and stuff it's going to definitely do a lot better

right and I'm actually my mom does a lot of driving

and I'm glad that she's in a Subaru because I mean not only because of the

all-wheel drive but just the general safety of it

yeah absolutely and ironically enough from my 2023 cross track to my 2025

my insurance went down oh good that's good like

how highly regarded Subaru safety is yeah yeah both of my kids now have

Subaru's so them also living in Houston I'm glad

that they have Subaru's now for for the safety and for the all-wheel drive and

all the rain that we get so yeah right

that's good that you've had so many Subaru's you know and that you've

come back to it that's really nice to hear

yeah there are a lot of fun to drive

I mean I yeah I just I like them yeah and

how do I explain it I don't know there's just so many

aspects of a Subaru that I think fit well

for my lifestyle and just you know we'll load up the bikes and all the

gear and everything and it everything always fits

and we can get wherever we need to go and even you know

if you're headed out somewhere like off of dirt roads

for us to go ride we can get there no problem we don't always have to take a

big truck yeah because they're so capable they're

super capable and then they're super creature

comfortable as well yeah they get really good

gas mileage I mean there's just so many different benefits to a Subaru

so what when you were getting the cross-track wilderness like what was it

that attracted you to the wilderness edition

um so one of the but other than the fact that they look really cool

yeah um one of the the things was we had

okay so my 2023 had 17 inch wheels and we had bought snow tires for it

okay and the 2025 sports have 18 inch wheels

but the wilderness has 17 inch wheels so we were like whoa well we can swap the

snow tires that's nice we don't have to buy a new set of snow tires

yeah um I liked the exterior styling a little bit better

or well a lot better than the sport because they kind of redid the sport

yeah um I like the um

well I love hate relationship with that that whatever that sport tech fabric is

that they use um I like that it like cleans

really well and um but it gets really hot when I wear

shorts and stuff so I just always have to throw a towel in the seat and sit on it

but whatever no big deal I think it's like a really durable

material too like so that's that's really good

yes I'm at some point if I get another

cross well my next car would probably be another cross track but

I'd like to get it with that that'd be nice mm-hmm what color did you end up

getting I got the metallic gray okay I liked how

it blended really well with the cladding that they put

yeah and then I really liked how um the metallic accents

that one right there yeah the metallic accents are kind of like that

orangy bronze color oh yeah instead of like the limey yellow oh yeah of the sport

I mean which looks good too but I already had one so I thought something

different yeah no that's good and you know you said

you're not planning on taking it off-road or going off-road with it but

it's nice to know that you can you know at some point if you decide like

because what's nice too is you don't have to do anything crazy with them but

you can take them on some trails that a normal car wouldn't really be able to go

on and just have the confidence that you can get

through it because like that was one of the main reasons that I bought mine

is we have a family reunion up in east Texas

and I was driving my previous car which was a lot lower

and I saw this road it was like a county road

and it had like some divots in the road and all this stuff and I'm like

like there's no I want to go see what's up this road but I can't

and at the time I knew that I wanted a cross-track but I was like you know if I

had a cross-track I know I could get up this road

and so like for me that was kind of like the biggest thing is being able to

go places like that where I couldn't with any of my previous cars

not necessarily I'm not trying to do any rock crawling or anything but just

the knowing that you can go and take some paths that you couldn't in any

other car was like the big one of the biggest appeals to me

right yeah that makes sense yeah so you think you'll

always own a Subaru then probably unless they

unless something really drastic happens to either a Subaru or

my life yeah yeah okay well thank you for taking

some time to sit down with me and record you're welcome

it was nice meeting you you too yeah and if you want you know if you're

interested you want to go listen to there's over 200 episodes so just

people out in the community I've had the woman that's sitting up there

she goes by mountain subi she also is driving the not the

cross-track but the hybrid forester over there okay

she participates she this will be her fifth year participating in the

rebel rally which is an all women rally

where they race for just trying to get from point A to point B

she has taken that yeah I'm carry

where do you do the rebel rally where do you do the rebel rally

California Nevada desert yeah so I was just telling her about the the

forester sorry the generators over there what I was just telling her about the

forester I'm just telling her about people I've had on the podcast oh yeah

yeah because I was yeah because she's driven her

her outback and the rebel rally the previous four years

so hi Kerry hi Margie nice to meet you nice to meet you too she has a

2025 cross-track wilderness but she also has a 2018 outback

and she's had some other Subaru's as well so we were just chatting about it

yeah we'll be a starting competition

like the October we'll have three Subaru's

we'll have three Subaru's competing this year

so that's super exciting and looking forward to

nice yeah again thank you for hopping on the mic

you're welcome all right have a great day you too thanks bye

all right I'm here at Overland Expo Mountain West and we're in the

beautiful owner lounge here at the Subaru Oasis

so welcome to the podcast would you please introduce yourself

hi my name's Ann and I live in Palmer Lake Colorado and I have a 2024 outback

wilderness all right so that's good to hear and

before we started recording I asked if it was your first Subaru and you said oh

no no how many have you owned I've owned nine

okay so do you have the little ownership badge with a nine on it

yep nice I sure do yep and five five other

little emblems that came with it so that was a pretty sweet deal because

that's free yeah yeah it is nice it's nice that you can

put those on there and show your proud ownership of it

yep so what are the other Subaru's that you've owned

previously all outbacks okay except for actually we had a 93

legacy sedan and that was a five-speed manual

the kids learned to drive on that very tough little car

going through teenagers um and then we had one other

outback that was a legacy but other than that they've been the the station wagons

yeah I the outbacks are really really nice

I and like the so the before the newest newest outback like the current

generation outbacks I they're a little too big for me

but the wilderness all day long I could there's

there's something about the wilderness that I love

well like I mentioned before we started our recording here

um I bought that 24 wilderness in June of 2023 because they had no more 23s

available so I didn't even have a chance to test

drive it but I got in it they taught me how to handle

and break in the turbo and I've been grinning ever since

so what made you decide on the wilderness

well if I was good so all these other Subaru's I've had

never had a car payment I bought them all cash nice

and I was trying not to have a car payment but then

when I couldn't find what I wanted and a used Subaru at that time

used good used cars for a good price for hard to find yeah

I went ahead and went new and I thought if I'm going to have a car payment

I'm going to get the wilderness yeah there you go no regrets

so what would you say is your favorite thing about the wilderness

oh my gosh were there too many favorite things

number one is I love being able to pass everybody else going uphill

yeah I really do I mean it's and I've got 36,000 miles on that car now

and it's given me absolutely no trouble some of the older Subaru's that had

turbos I know there were some issues but this one's been fine

the other thing I really like is it lives up to the hype in the X mode

so if you put the X mode on and you need to use it because I've taken it off

road like where I take my Jeep okay and it has clearance

it handles downhill scree just fine

I'm very pleased with how it performs off-road yeah

and if you don't know what you're doing you could get yourself in trouble

but if you know how to four-wheel drive and how to manage your vehicle

this thing lives up to the hype good that's good to hear

yeah I haven't driven a wilderness personally

but I hear a lot of good things about it I know the X mode is really good

unfortunately my car since I have a base model

manual transmission it doesn't have X mode but

it's okay because I love my car for other you know

various reasons and I live in Houston so I don't really need X mode

well I was curious how it works so there's a little road outside of

you wanted to put into the test yeah it goes up to a

collapsed caldera so it's an old volcano

that you can get to within a mile and a half or so off of I-70

and it's a pretty steep road the only thing up there besides

actually when I went up there there were three Subaru's parked at the

bottom I just thought to myself they're

rookies I went on up I have my own wilderness I went on up

the only thing coming down were ATV's yeah I'm like what did I just do

but I got to the top no problems but coming down that little volcanic

pebble scree stuff I put in an X mode

and it does exactly what it's supposed to and it did the hill descent

breaking all the way down even down around the

hairpin course I had no trouble good good so then that just pretty much

solidified your confidence in the car yep

yeah that's good to hear yep yeah I know that they've just continued the

I think they're called Geolander tires they came stock on the new Subaru's

yeah um I think there's better options out there that's the only

thing is if we were getting to this point what do I not like about it

was those tires they're okay for summertime driving

and stuff but they're not that great in the winter on snow

okay yeah so I put snow tires on it in the winter but

I think that the newer Subaru's coming out are not using those tires anymore

okay yeah that's good yeah so what got you

interested in Subaru in the first place you know years ago whenever you

bought your first one well it gave me the option

I was the kids were young when I divorced and I wanted to be able to go skiing

and camping and have an all-in-one vehicle that could

carry it all so if you got enough roof racks

system you can load a Subaru up as much as a

suburban yeah and so I could take the boys camping

and skiing and all of our stuff fit so I knew that was the right car

post there you know I have a friend that's a mechanic

and he has his own shop and he works on all things Japanese

but his focus is Subaru so I already knew from him that's what I wanted and

I am a die-hard Subaru owner obviously with a nine under my belt

yeah no that's awesome that's great to hear because

I mean I'm on my first Subaru and I didn't really know much about Subaru

at all before I bought mine and so it's you know it's great to hear

stories like that because I know for me this won't be my

my first and only Subaru it's it's um they've definitely

and and I've told the story before on the podcast but

I went out with a friend who was looking for a new car years ago

and he went to a Subaru dealership and I was looking around at them

it was before way before the cross track I don't even remember which

particular model he was looking at but I'm I know they had the Forester

and they had the Outback and some other ones but I remember looking at them

going like why would you want to buy one of these they're so funky looking

you know but like now that's what I really like about them is they're so

different you know and and they're just and knowing how

capable they are as cars and how reliable they are

and then experiencing the all-wheel drive they're just

they're such great cars well you know um I think that's a

selling point is you get a lot of vehicle for the price point

and they're fairly affordable to ensure

I know there's a lot of qualifiers out there with insurance

they're very affordable to maintain they're

cheap to own and of course the newer Subaru's cost more and whatnot but

it's still a very affordable car you get a lot of car

and a lot of safety features and and any of the Subaru's you get even old

ones yeah the one that um I had a 2013 Outback

that I got t-boned in I was so disappointed to lose that car

it was a wonderful car and it's kind of belly aching about it to the tow

truck driver when I went to pick it up out of the

re out of the the city town lot and he said hey it did its job

I've seen a lot of accidents and you could have been a lot worse off but

you were in a Subaru and those are his words I'm not making that up

yeah but that car did exactly what it was supposed to

I was in and out of the emergency room and recovered within a few months

I would have been in much worse shape if I'd been in a different car so the

safety features are very real yeah and I've had so many people

say that I've had quite a few people on the podcast that have been in

accidents and that have said I'm pretty confident

that if I was in any other car I wouldn't have survived that or it would have

been really really bad in the Subaru savory yeah

and that's I didn't even buy mine because of safety safety features but I'm just

glad to learn that after I bought it and now

my daughter owns a Subaru Crosstrek a 2024

third generation Crosstrek and my son has a 2010

Outback so it's I feel good knowing that they're in

Subaru's well that's what I bought for my boys

their first cars were Subaru's I'm like I'm not buying anything else

when you get enough to afford to buy your own car you can get whatever you want

my second one has had two Subaru's of his own

nice after the first one you bought for him yep

nice so he's bought two more the other one went with Toyota so I'll

forgive him but yeah I mean that's where we're at

I mean I personally will always have a Subaru in my garage

that's good to hear probably going to be a wilderness of some sort yeah

no the wilderness like I there's the Crosstrek wilderness over here which

one of the guys has modified some but even the Crosstrek wilderness

with no modifications just off the factory floor they're so nice

they look really good yeah and it might possibly be my next car

however I would have I would get a second one because I can't get rid of my

manuals and I'm trying to see how many I'm actually trying to see how many miles

I can get on it because right now I have 132,000 miles

and I've only had it for four and a half years

fairly broken in yeah I know so I there's actually a guy that I know

he has an an older outback but he has 390,000 miles on his outback

I got three of mine one of them was that 93 legacy

and I got that one and two of the the outback station wagons to

over 300,000 wow and then they all died mostly because

my youngest son drove him into something and it just

ended up having to be told yeah but I'll bet you I could have got a lot more

miles on it you just had to replace the head gaskets

do some maintenance but those things they were it ran strong all of them

yeah my son's outback is uh it's 2010 3.6 r and he has I think

206,000 miles on it he's having some transmission issues with it

but other than that everything else is like the engine is

such in such good shape you know for the age and it's he's also like I

think the maybe the fourth or fifth owner because the guy that we bought it

from bought it and then sold it and then

bought it back and then gave it to his father-in-law and so it's

and it's had some modifications done and then take it off and then put back on

but it's still yeah so but it's a it's a good car and

you know he's enjoying it so well thank you so much for hopping on and

sharing a little bit of your story I love it you know

I always I always praise Subaru's you know I've lived it I've

experienced it on all different levels I'm a happy camper

good that's good to hear thanks for having me on you're welcome thank you

all right there's our conversations from day one of Overland Expo Mountain West

and now of course we're going to get into day two of Overland Expo Mountain

West with some more great conversations thank you all so

much for tuning in thank you so much for listening I really really

appreciate it let's get into the rest of this

bonus episode I'm here at Overland Expo

Mountain West why don't you go ahead and introduce yourselves

and let us know like is this your first time at Overland Expo in Colorado

yeah and Ken and this is Courtney Jason

it's my first time at the Overland Expo Colorado

I've been to one in Flagstaff with Courtney before this is my first time

at any Overland Expo very nice yeah and I saw you

y'all were at Flagstaff so that was pretty cool

yeah dude it was absolutely right yeah because what were y'all wearing there

I think we were in our cow out yes yes yeah okay and I was like whenever I saw

y'all in these outfits I'm like they're kind of like the people that were in

Flagstaff I'm like is that the same people yeah that's awesome

that's super fun so tell us like what happened recently because you're in

the market for a new Subaru and she just bought one recently

yeah so two months ago we were sleeping in our bed

had our cars parked out front and a drunk driver hit both of our cars

totaled them out we got Courtney into a new 2017 Forester

very good now I'm just kind of limbo on what I want to get

yeah shopping and stuff so I'm excited about what you used to have and I know

you're looking for another one because you had a cross-track that was a manual

which is what I have yeah six feet so yeah phenomenal

yeah yeah a little touchy off-road because it's better in the

the clutch while you're doing things it's different yeah well it's super

funny about that is my very first off-roading experience was in

Colorado and we went to Woodland Park with some people that I had

I had on the podcast and we were going up and over this little

hump or it was a little small hill and my son was with me

and so I'm going up and over this little hill and I'd never driven off-road

and especially not in a manual I know it's not as easy and my son was like

what's that smell I guess my clutch yeah I hear that it's a

common thing yeah that the riding the clutch when you're

in the woods with them I've she got stuck in her out back before they got totaled

out yeah and I thought I gradated my car trying to get her out of the sand with

it yeah yeah now they're stinky yeah but at least easy to replace though

you know like replacing the clutch in a manual transmission compared to the

the CBTs a lot simpler of a task yeah I I

I would like to try to replace my clutch whenever the time comes

but I don't have access to a shop or anything so

hopefully I can get someone help me out but I have 132,000 miles so far and I

haven't had to replace it it's not too bad though

no yeah yeah so and what is it your your

forester your forester right yeah I have a 2025 forester

nice nice and you had you didn't have a Subaru before that but then you had

a Subaru prior to the your previous car so what did you have

before yeah so I used to have a 2007 Impreza okay and that was replaced then

with a Honda Accord which was then replaced with a Ford Escape

and I went back to Subaru with the 2025 Forester very nice welcome back to

Subaru I love being back yeah so were you just like

after I know your story with your Ford and everything but

were you like I just want to get back into something that I know is

reliable or were you were you kind of contemplating going

back to Subaru before that yeah I mean when I moved to Colorado

you know I had the Honda Accord got stuck it in the snow once and was like all right

well I need something with all-wheel drive or four-wheel drive

you know be a little more reliable yeah win for something nice and cheap

and ended up paying more for it so in that died was like all right

do a little more research find something super dependable

you know something that can handle Colorado and the weather the mountain

passes things like that I bought my Forester and have been loving it ever since

very nice yeah so how long have you had it now I bought it in December okay

great yeah so you've had it long enough to really get to know it well yep

it's been hasn't let you down yet hasn't let me down it's been great

on everything I've thrown at it you know snowy mountain passes or

back trails just you know everything stock has just

worked great yeah because you haven't done any modifications to it and

which is really nice to hear how capable it is being stock

yeah I mean long-term want to do those modifications but

yeah I've been looking at researching before I spend the money yeah

yeah okay good nice most glad to have you back in Subaru and I know you are

too yeah so and y'all are all with camp Subaru

this uh this weekend right yeah so how did y'all find out about camp Subaru

we all invited like through email or something

yeah I just got a random email one day filled up the form figured

oh there's no chance I'll get accepted and got the acceptance email

very nice yeah so what's your camping experience been like over there so far

that's been great I only had one night so far but

had a lot of great food a lot of great people great conversations about Subaru

yeah yeah it's great to be around a crowd of people that you are

you know have common interest with for sure it's great

yeah yeah so all right thank you all for hopping on the mic for a little bit

yeah you're welcome all right so I'm sitting I'm sitting here at Overland Expo

Mountain West and we're in the owner lounge with Chris how's it going man

good good having a great time our name is Chris right yeah Chris

like wait a minute I've met people if this is legal purposes it's Christopher

okay yeah all right proper yeah yeah so uh won't you introduce your Instagram handle

let us know where we can follow you yeah so I'm just on Instagram not YouTube or

anything else it's a silver roux underscore off-road

okay and what kind of you have a forester right yeah yeah it's a 2021

forester sport okay yeah nice nice so is so the

forester is that your first forester or your I mean your first Subaru

no so I had my first car was a 2004

WX wagon um Blaba I think that's what they called the

no force yeah um yeah bone stock okay when I first one yeah

and uh didn't last long until I started modifying it right away went the

the off-roading route put forester struts on and all the

train tires nice we had it at one point it had a um a

built motor uh bigger cams in it so then kind of idle like a

hot rod and put it on e85 and I was young at the time and just

didn't treat it right and I uh blew the motor three times

yeah wow yeah that'll do it yep it's one way to go about it

yeah so did you have something did you have another Subaru like

after that or did you what else did you have a so

after the yeah after the wagon uh the WRX I ended up moving into Tacoma

um I had the Tacoma for about four and a half or five years

got into the whole off-roading space a lot heavier with the Tacoma and kind of

set it up to to travel the country and explore

trails and kind of you know live out of it for

the lack of better terms um I did that for a long time

and uh eventually uh a little over a year ago

it got rear ended I totaled the truck and um

I just kind of reevaluated the car situation and where my

life was and my priorities and um started looking at

Subaru again and I found the found the forester and that's how we kind of ended

up in the forester yeah so like what have you done to the

forester and and like you modified it as well yeah so um

the thing I like to say is uh with the Tacoma I spent a lot of time getting

it set up to be really easy to to live out of I have

everything kind of set up to you know everything has a place so once you

kind of use some you can put it right back

and now I knew going into the forester that was going to be a little bit of a

challenge because uh you know coming from a truck everything's

kind of open you about yeah um in the forester you know space is limited

so I kind of had to apply everything that I learned from the Tacoma

and make it work in the forester and over the year now that I've had the

the forester and gone out and used it a ton and lived out of it

um uh when I'm out you know off-roading or getting the

backcountry it it's working better now in the

forester than they did in the Tacoma I'd say I'd say that the

the way that it's set up it there's less friction when it comes time to

setting up camp um a lot of companies out there like

adf and um Sherpa racks they're making roof racks so I can put

everything up on top of it adf makes these uh quarter panel moly

panels for the back so you can put stuff out of the way

so my sleeping setup is completely um unobstructed very nice so yeah it's it

whatever I learned everything I learned from Tacoma applied to the forester

and I enjoy it more and I go to the same places I went

in the Tacoma in the forester so and what about like the off-road

capabilities yeah so the off-road capabilities I

I'm still getting more and more impressed by how well it does

yeah um I uh I may have mentioned already but I've

gone almost everywhere I've gone in the Tacoma

maybe sparing maybe one or two trails that just overall clearance wise that

you just know it's not going to make it yeah but there has been very few times

where I've not been able to take that side road down off of a

forest service road um it's gotten me through most

everything that I've wanted to to the point where it's so capable that I've

found that I'm pushing it more and more yeah yeah that seems to happen

yeah this is good you know it's good that you can find out what the capabilities

are yeah yep it it's exceeded expectations and

then some that's for sure so having a Subaru before then going

to the Tacoma and then out back into the Subaru again

you obviously came back to the Subaru for a reason

so you think that you'll continue to stay with Subaru

yeah you know um I I think from my experience with the forester

you know and and for the most part what I learned from the

WX before I mean I I know I blew the motors on those but for the most part

that was the only thing only issues I had with it

I never had any other issues with the suspension components

any of the the electronics in the car I mean all that stuff

were fantastic so I came to the forester because of some

previous experience in reliability and hearing

everyone else's stories about reliability I just knew

that's that was the way to go yeah and you know the all-wheel drive here in

Colorado is it's absolutely fantastic in the snow it's

arguably one of the best all-wheel drive systems so and I've heard that you know

having done the podcast for four and a half years now I've heard that from so

many people that I've heard that from people who

have been in either four by four or some other

all-wheel drive system they say especially when it comes to all-wheel drive

particularly they say that Subaru's is just like superior above others

absolutely I I've been stuck in the snow

on the road in some deep deep snow events in a Tacoma

I have not been stuck yet in the in the forester very nice

that's one thing and the interior I am also extremely impressed by too

because I get out there and I off-road and it feels

you know at times like you're kind of kind of beating the thing up but

when you're on the inside I just it feels like kind of like a luxury car

yeah and the moon roof oh man oh nice that was another selling point for the

forester yeah it is absolutely fantastic

having that yeah I'm sure if you're out there in like some really

remote spots you can look up through the moon roof and see the stars

I yep it's exactly what I do I'll pull the moon roof back and I'll

watch shooting stars the only problem with that it just keeps me up a

little too late yeah so is this your first time to

overland expo it is yeah I've been trying to get here

for a couple years now and works always kept me away

in some some form or another so um yeah first time here local here so it was

nice to just come down the street and then got to come in for the

Subaru camping experience too so it's kind of

amazing it was worth the wait you know yeah making the fours and now you

come in Subaru's ears that's really cool

so what do you think you like the whole setup here with the little Subaru Oasis

we've got going on yeah so I've been you know

hearing about it on on your podcast and and a lot of other people talking

about how it uh they really made it warm and

welcoming feeling and and like just really cool

personalized feel and actually seeing in person

they've nailed it yeah you know it it's unlike a lot of

this is the most approachable booth I feel like I've seen yet

yeah I've had other people say that too like it's the most inviting

space you know of all the vendors here and yeah absolutely

it's just I like how spread out it is it doesn't feel like you're boxed in

in any means you know so it's uh I think they did a great

job with it yeah absolutely yeah so what has your

camping experience been like so far over at Camp Subaru

yeah so um I mean first off they've taken

extremely well care of us Joe over here we weren't supposed to have dinner last

night but all of a sudden there was pizza so that was a huge plus

you know they've catered breakfast in the morning

the you know every time someone's coming in everybody's getting up to speed and

what's going on and you know we're over there at a

Boyd Lake and everybody's got their own little spots but

it's the first time that I've camped in a campground

with a whole bunch of other people going I'm really used to sleeping out in the

woods or in the desert where I'm when I'm in the back of the

forester it's just like ah peaceful so it's a little bit

different and you're like oh there's dogs barking and stuff but you know what

it's it's part of it and I'll say the one thing that's nice is it's

kind of the added safety of other people yeah which because I'm a

little bit of a of a scaredy cat when I'm out

doing stuff so now it's like cool I don't have to worry about that anymore

oh that's good yeah slept a little better yeah that's good

and I know they were doing yoga over there too yeah I did it I took I uh took the

time to sleep in a little bit okay yeah sleep is good I don't usually get to do

that uh out off work or I mean when I'm on working so yeah I had to sleep a little

okay good yeah now it's it's been nice being here

and I've been I've had an opportunity to go to Flagstaff

to Oregon now this one and then I'll continue on to

Virginia but I'm like it's it's a great opportunity to

meet a lot of different people and I think it's great that Subaru is

doing this that they're participating in Overland Expo

and I think it's a good presence for them and this is like a really great

event for Subaru to be involved with yeah

absolutely I think um I thought I had heard that it was last year that they

had a small test booth I think and they're

kind of trying it out yeah and then this year they obviously as you can

see here um went all in and uh seem hopefully they continue to do it because

yeah I think it's awesome I think we're it's been cool seeing a lot of other

people that are uh you know not even Subaru owners

coming in and uh you know like we had over here at the axle swap with

Milton I think there was two people or at least one that was a toilet owner

you just wanted to come over and do that and I haven't seen any other booths that

have like done an axle swap demonstration I mean that's pretty

yeah it's pretty unique yeah yeah so you know we're trying to like

think of ways to stand out a little bit more and do some

different and get people out in the community that have experience

doing stuff like this to give people a piece of mind

that it's potentially something you can do yourself because I changed both my

front axles on my car and I did it with the help of them

and also watching some youtube videos but also

knowing that they had changed out several axles and like

having that peace of mind that hey I've got somebody that can help me out

if I if I need it you know yeah absolutely well and it's just great

you know obviously there's a lot of Subaru owners coming through here so

it's great to talk to some people and find out you know some of their

stories and you know it's like I was talking to a woman yesterday

that I asked her if you know the Subaru that she owned was her first one she's

like no this is my ninth super ninth Subaru yeah

so it's pretty pretty cool and yeah his fourth one over here yeah

and then so it's just it's so fun because like

especially for me because this is I'm on my first Subaru

and I didn't know a whole lot about Subaru and I before I bought mine

so to see all these different cars and hear these different stories it's

like really a lot of fun yeah absolutely and and

I think the being over at the camp has been pretty cool because we've had

you know you have a super diverse group like you're saying and I think we've

talked about that a lot is I mean everybody from first owners to people

that have had them for years and years and years

I mean I'm personally like into the off-roading side of things but I've

learned you know already somebody that came in and

just started getting off-roading and they're doing little things to make

their camping better and you know learning something from them you know

I mean I I am definitely not uh I haven't been

doing it that long and know everything by any means but it's just a

pretty cool place to come and just see what everybody else is doing because

there's always everybody has a different view and

different way of doing stuff oh yeah and yeah yeah like you've got Betsy

over here that she does her car camping she's got a whole setup in the

back there with her luno mattress and luno pillows and stuff and yeah

she said she slept really really well last night in her car and

did you sleep here at that oh nice yeah yeah it was uh it was really cool and uh

but yeah and it you know it's just fun to see the different there's a lot of

similarities and things that people do with their cars but then everybody

puts their own personal touch to it yeah and that's what's really cool

and yep you know and you get ideas from other people so

not necessarily like oh i'm gonna copy your build but

get inspiration yeah exactly that's fun because like

there's you're always like messaging people through instagram

because we're all spread out all over the place and the amount of help that

people are willing to give and the excitement for each other is like

what really makes it fun too yeah absolutely yeah

so thanks for hopping on the mic yeah absolutely I appreciate it

yeah yeah Joe you want to add anything

I'm just looking for some some good night's sleep tonight that's what I'm

really looking for that's my goal today yeah same

here yeah yeah that's cool thank you thank you

I'm here at Overland Expo I'm out in west and I'm sitting here with Chris

how's it going good nice to meet you yes nice to meet

you as well yeah I was great chatting earlier and we're

talking a bit about your your outbacks and so I decided

to get you in my noon slot which is really cool

so why don't you let us know what you're driving now and then you can let us

know what you were driving previously okay yeah

I have a 2025 Subaru Outback Wilderness edition

okay the galaxy black paint oh nice which I discovered really

looks like a galaxy yeah I had it for weeks and then one day I caught it

in the light and I was like oh wow there's the

there's sparkles in here nice yeah yeah I have a

2021 cross track and it's crystal white pearl so it has like this little nice

pearl lesson look to it you know and that's what I ended up naming my car

was pearl because I couldn't think of anything else at the time

so yeah so you've got that but you had an outback that you

owned previously yeah that's right

yeah I had a 2005 Subaru Outback XT it was a limited turbo edition and it was a

five-speed manual that is that must have been so fun to drive

it was amazing I really liked that car I had a young family so it was perfect

for getting us around Colorado and you know and never had to

worry about snow or oh dad or any of that stuff

and manual transmission with a turbo was just really really fun

oh gosh yeah I know so I have a 21 cross track that's a manual

and you know it's a slow baru because it's got the 2.0

but it's being a manual it's so fun to drive right it makes the driving

experience so much better so I can't even imagine like what

that must have been like driving that outback yeah it was pretty fun I mean

you could definitely do very sporty things with it yeah

so when did you did you buy it in 2005 or did you buy it yeah we bought it in 2005

and we sold it in 2021 um we just kind of outgrew that car okay because the

2005 model was I would say significantly smaller

yeah the current models of Outback yeah yeah and I I absolutely love the older

Outbacks they're just they look so cool I know they are smaller on the hood

oh man yeah but I they are smaller but I like that smaller body style it looks

so good so how many miles did you have on it by the time you

sold it actually not that many my wife drove it as her main

daily driver and she only lived like a mile and a half from home so

it only had like 85,000 miles oh my gosh that's

see that's funny because my cross track I've had it for almost four and a

half years and I have 132,000 miles on it

yeah it was crazy the dealer was pretty excited to get it oh yeah I mean that

would be amazing to have a car with that little mileage for you know that age

yeah yeah so what got you into Subaru in the

first place well you know we were looking for

something that combined two things I had a truck and my wife had a sedan

and at that moment in time we needed a single vehicle

okay because we our son was just born all right and so

what car is out there that has the utility of a truck

yeah and can drive around the city like a sedan

hmm I wonder pretty much that's what led us to Subaru

and the other thing was when we were car shopping

we were comparing it to Volvo and there was another

car that was in the mix and Volvo for the price

was bare bones right it had barely anything in it

where the Subaru at that price was maxed out it was the XT limited it had

all the stuff so it was almost no brainer

now did you both know how to drive manual before you okay

I taught my wife how to drive manual though okay when we were kids

oh 17 yeah nice yeah it's uh it's it's a dying form of transportation you

know and transmission unfortunately but I mean I was

thankful to be able to get a second gen cross track as a manual

and I absolutely love driving it which is why it has 132,000 miles right

so when you so before you bought the XT did you

know much about Subaru um I knew of them you know

like I saw them around uh I think I always thought of the crocodile

Dundee commercials yeah um but yeah I never I never really

saw myself as a Subaru person until I had one and once I had one

it became really clear that this was just a

an all-around good package of a car yeah that's what I liked about it well I mean

you had it for 16 years yeah I mean that's

that's pretty amazing that says a lot and even though you didn't have a

whole lot of miles in 16 years I'm sure you

thoroughly enjoyed it yeah I mean we drove it to

South Dakota we drove you know we it's not like we didn't drive it

yeah we didn't have that daily grind that a lot of people do when they

yeah miles in their car that's good yeah so what did

what was like some of the things that you enjoyed most about that car other than

it being a turbo and being a manual because I'm sure that was like

high on the list of enjoyment that was that was probably my two favorite

parts of the car I mean having the the high ground clearance to

at that time in 2005 it had eight inches of ground clearance which was

at that time higher than a Toyota 4Runner oh nice yeah I think 4Runner was

we're at 7.9 so it was it was just having that kind of piece of mind

taking that that car over things was just nice

yeah so did you have did you do any kind of modifications to it or was it

completely stocked it was just completely stocked the entire

time we didn't have to do anything special to it

if I have a regret from that car it's that we never did anything with the

wheels yeah the wheels were like road wheels you know okay

with the low profile tires yeah and so we never really

tried to do anything too aggressive did you did you

change it out with any other tires because you're

in Colorado and you've got snow yeah we did definitely

we went through I think four sets of tires over the lifetime with it

okay but we always got the same low profile

tires because we didn't want to get new wheels

yeah and did you have any issues with snow I'm

never yeah that was not a problem that's great

yeah so so it seems like there's a little bit of a gap between when you sold it

and then now that you have the 2025 did you have something in between or did

y'all have a second car that y'all had as

as like your only car for a while well um after we purchased that car I did get

myself a Volkswagen Passat and I had that for a little

time okay and then I upgraded that I actually

I went on a trip to Hawaii and I rented a Jeep

and me and my family had a really great time exploring Hawaii in a Jeep

and when I got back I wanted to get something

more off-road capable yeah just a little bit of research showed me that I

did not want a Jeep

oh that's good yeah and so um at that time I

decided to get a Volkswagen Atlas because they were offering zero percent

financing yeah and the Atlas Peak Edition I just did air quotes

the Peak Edition is an appearance package it has

all-terrain tires on it and and it's always in all-wheel drive

with the rest of the Atlas line isn't in all-wheel drive yeah

and um it was good it did what I wanted it to do I

did go off-roading with it but I just found the limitations of the low

ground clearance and how big that car was

yeah it's pretty big I found that pretty fast yeah so I only had that car for

about a year and four months okay so then what got you back

into Subaru again well I wanted ground clearance

yeah that was the number one priority and uh

I started looking at Subaru's uh I was actually looking at the cross-track

I thought all Subaru engines were turbo

I just I was under the impression that they were all turbo

so I was looking at cross-track and then I found out that it's not turbo and

because of my experience with the first Subaru yeah

I learned what turbo means in Colorado you know I learned what it means to be

driving up I-70 have somebody cut you off

and be able to recover and go yeah you know yeah

I really do like the turbos in fact every vehicle we've had since that

first Subaru are all turbo oh okay everything has been turbo since

so now yeah now you've got a turbo again with the outback wilderness

yeah so but I'm guessing too that your experience owning your first

Subaru had other than the ground clearance had a lot to do with it it

did it did and this uh new outback with the

wilderness package on it has 9.6 which I think is crazy

yeah I did video of myself going over some rocks and stuff

and at the time I didn't know was it good or not and I

looked at the footage and I cleared it by a mile it was

yeah I didn't I mean it was I have so much ground clearance now I love it

I yeah so my cross-track I don't have a lift on it and mine's like

well I have aftermarket wheels and tires so I don't know what what it

actually is now but stock it's like 8.7 and so I'm guessing it's

probably about the same yeah but there's been times when I've been

going on trails and I'm by myself and I'll look at

something and I'm like oh man that looks kind of rough like from inside the car

it looks bad yeah then you get out and you go down you look at the line and

like man that's easy yeah and then there's there've been times and I've

like taken a video and I look or I'll like or I'll watch

like my daughter in her car or something or somebody else wherever I'm

at and I'm like oh hold on let me go look at that for you

and then they start going through it I'm like that was something that was

nothing yeah you know it just always looks worse from inside the car

but totally agree yeah so I mean that's great that you've got the ground

clearance and so how long have you had it now well I actually just got it in

June but okay I've already replaced the

tires and I I can feel like how this is going to

become a thing yeah because I've I just got the um

the topo decals I'm going to put that on probably

next week and then I'm looking at all this stuff here at the expo and I

I'm just thinking yeah this car is going to be with me for a while

I just have a feeling well and then for for context because of people

that can't see we're sitting in front of an outback wilderness

we're sitting in front of Betsy's and uh Basaltic Outback and she's done quite a

bit to it she's got lift on it she's got her ditch lights

and then she's got her awning and a roof rack you know so there's

it's these cars it becomes fun to start thinking about all the

modifications that you can do to it and like

even if you're not going to do any kind of crazy mods just doing like you know

you're going to do the topo on it just doing decals and stuff to

personalize it and make it stand out a little bit more

even that is like you know fun to do that because like that's what I did with

my car first because I couldn't really afford to do anything else

and so just like finding the decals that I wanted to make it look the way I

wanted it to look and you know and I've even changed those around

so it's it's it's a lot of fun to to have these cars and do fun stuff with them

yeah yeah and I've only had it since June and I already have

5000 miles on it because I've been everywhere in it

yeah I've gone places I just never thought I would go

yeah um I'm exploring more of Colorado it's like it's like just open the doors

for me yeah and that's the fun part too is

like when I bought my cross-track I knew I wasn't

probably going to do anything crazy with it but I wanted something that was good on gas

I wanted something that was affordable and I wanted something that

would take me places that my previous cars wouldn't take me because like

you know I just wanted the ability to get off the pavement and go explore

some different things and so I really enjoyed it

yeah yeah I'm not a I'm not a rock crawler or anything like that I'm

not interested in that that kind of overlanding

but I really have been enjoying the Colorado Trail system

I've been using on-ex off-road to just sort of guide my

my path and it's been really fun so have you like started looking around at

different places that you want to go explore

yeah coming up with a list yeah I've got a whole like bookmark list of places

I want to go try to very nice take photos I mean that's

ultimately this is all for my photography photography channel is

I want the Subaru to get me where I want to go

so I can take these photos that I want to take

yeah because when we were talking earlier today you said that so far

the Outback has been able to take you places that you

weren't able to get to before and so like now you can continue that and

and that's what's great too is like a lot of people have said that

on the podcast is like if they want to go hiking or they want to go

mountain biking or something you know their Subaru can get them

further up into spots so that they can get to the

through spots that they really want to go to right and that's what's like really

nice about these cars too even if you're not going to use it to do crazy

off-road stuff it can just really enhance your outdoor

experience and lifestyle yeah yeah it gets me up

90 of the way and I do the rest you know my legs do the rest and

yeah I have discovered places I've discovered scenes that I never would

have seen or known about without good getting up there right yeah

they're a lot of fun and I know just everybody really

enjoys them and the community is like super super great so

do you have an instagram page for your car it's not specific to my car but I

do have an instagram page okay what's your instagram page it's

at chris frytag so that's my name um and my last name is spelled f-r-e-i-t-a-g

and I always have to say that because everyone in school learned

that stupid i before e-scept after c rule yeah yeah do you do you plan on

starting an instagram page for your car I actually kind of thought about that

um because all these people they they met one another through their passion

of Subaru and my I'm sort of mixing genres here

with my Subaru my photography so it might be worth starting

my own page just for the photography or for the uh Subaru yeah and a lot of

these people have met each other through instagram

and or through facebook or something because I mean

that's how I got connected with a lot of different people was through

I was like okay I'm gonna do the silly thing and start an instagram page for

my car right and and I'm glad I did because if

I hadn't I wouldn't be sitting here with you today

right yeah because I got connected with people

through instagram saw how passionate they were

and decided I can't you know that's when I had the idea for the podcast of like

let's get these people on here to share more about their story and their

journey because there's so many people are like consuming

podcasts so much these days and it's such a great way to get

uh you know a media where you don't have to like sit and watch

something you don't have to sit and read something

because you can listen to a podcast while you're doing so many different

things you know if you're out on a long drive it's great

time to listen to a podcast if you're going for a walk if you're

you know I listen to them when I'm like washing dishes you know folding clothes

or something so it's like it's an easily consumable

you know form of entertainment to you yeah yeah I agree I listened to it a long

time in my outback I have carplay wireless carplay

and I just listen to my podcasts while I'm driving around

so with the outback wilderness other than the ground clearance and that's

the Subaru like what are some of the features that you really like about

the outback well the the ground clearance is definitely

the the best one um what else do I like about it

you know I haven't had any problems with the CVT or

having power or anything like that in fact I feel like it

sounds very much like a normal transmission I haven't

haven't had that effect happen that sort of

sounds like the car is stuck in a gear yeah I haven't had that happen to me

at all um so everything just feels very

reliable and good like I haven't I guess if I have a feature I like the

best is I don't have to worry about it yeah I don't think about

yeah I'm not worried about stuff falling apart

so that's probably my favorite feature especially what I'm doing

stuff really deep in the mountains or way out in eastern Colorado chasing

storms I don't want to be yeah worried about my car

yeah so what are your uh other than going and exploring and you know you're gonna

do the topo wrap on it do you have any other plans for your

car as far as like modifications especially being here at the expo you

know and seeing a bunch of different things and seeing some of these cars

on display here at the booth are there things that you are

thinking of that you want to do yeah I think the first thing I want to do is

skid plates okay I do have a front skid plate that

came with the wilderness edition yeah but um I think I want to get some beefier

skid plates yeah really protect my vehicle from

anything like that you know something that I misjudged

oh yeah just be nice um and then I think an awning

would be great yeah you know those those just look like practical

you know yeah I'm up in the middle of nowhere and I want to

sit down for a sec and take a break put the awning out

like that would be great yeah they're yeah they're definitely very nice

and especially to give you some shade get out of the sun for a little bit and

just sit and have a snack or something enjoy the view you know

definitely come in handy you do you think are you planning on

potentially getting a lift to lift it even further do you

think that the places that you're going to be going that what you have

will be adequate for it um you know I was talking to some

super good people and that they were like the first thing they would

recommend is tires and I've already got that covered

and then skid plates so I would do that next

I'll probably wait and see how much I do to see if I need a better

suspension a lift because right now what comes

with the wilderness edition is so nice yeah you know they

they kind of specced it out to be what I want it to be

yeah so it's it's pretty nice that it's all

part of the package you know that that wilderness edition is really

um I don't know it feels like a very Colorado car

yeah so having owned the XT before and your previous outback and

owning it for 16 years I'm guessing you'll probably have this one for

quite a while that's that's the plan and do you do you think that you

potentially see yourself always owning Subaru's or at least a Subaru

probably you know like at this point I get

pretty brand loyal when once I find something that works for me

um so yeah I I actually plan on having it for a while and

that's why I want to protect it right that's why I want to do like the skid

plates first so I guess I guess some of the

ways that it's changed your life too is being able to you know being that

you're in photography and you want to get some of those good shots and

everything is just being able to take you further

yeah yeah it's really been a great vehicle too

another thing that I like about it is having the Atlas for even just one year

I couldn't reach the other side of the car oh yeah

so now it's really nice to be able to like put stuff on the window

um you know like I can reach over and I can get to the other side of the

car so it's it's really nice having that from so I do all this

in-car camera stuff okay for my for my youtube channel

and so you know just having access to the whole car

really makes it easier to do to do my job yeah

good well thank you for hopping on the mic and chatting for a bit

yeah it's great to hear like I would love to find an outback like your

your previous one your o5 that would be super cool

it was really cool but we definitely outgrew it

that was the whole reason we I mean my my oldest is 19 and you know

everything we were all just getting bigger and um the the new outbacks

definitely have more room in the yeah so they're nice

are you encouraging your kids to get out back or I get get

so that's that's the funny thing my youngest

he might get to drive my outback when he's 16 right

so we'll see how that goes but yeah um he's into it though he likes it

like one of the first things he said to me is he liked it better than

the atlas so yeah that's important yeah kid approved yeah it's kid approved yeah

teenager approved cool well thank you so much Chris yep

enjoyed it thanks you're welcome all right you ready yeah

what do you want me to say all right I'll guide it all right I'm here at camp

Subaru at Overland Expo Mountain West so this is day two evening two and

standing around a campfire people eating s'mores eating some good food

laughing having some great conversation around Subaru's and everything else

so welcome how are you doing I'm doing fantastic yeah what a beautiful night

my name is Emily dresser and I am the yoga teacher in camp post here at camp

Subaru very nice so how did you get that gig

well to be completely honest I had a marketing agency reach out to me because

I am already a teacher at the Overland Expo's of yoga

and yeah the marketing agency reached out asking if I would like to

teach yoga for Subaru so started there in Pacific Northwest that was my first

time and then here I am now as a camp host doing yeah camp post duties

keeping vibes high are you doing them like mostly local to you or are you

going to travel to the next one too which is in Virginia

well I'm currently in Bend Oregon so I traveled 17 hours in our truck

camper to get here all right and we will see what happens I'm hoping to

continue my journey with Camp Subaru very nice good yeah

no it's I know it's it's an exciting time and

we're glad you're out here so like what has been your overall experience

being with the campers and with Subaru building community is so important

these people are going to leave lifelong friends and

it's really cool that Subaru prioritizes the relationships that they

have with their people yeah yeah that's been nice

so you get up in the morning and teach yoga class

at what time 7 a.m we've got yoga going on and then the second word done

breakfast and coffee is ready and then the shuttle comes and takes

people to the expo nice so you did that Friday

morning you did that this morning and then you'll do that tomorrow morning

as well tomorrow morning before we send people off

yeah very nice very nice cool well thanks for hopping on the mic for a bit

absolutely thanks for having me you're welcome

okay I'm here with my next guest here at Camp Subaru night two of

Overland Expo Mountain West why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself

hello I'm Elias Arredondo I'm a Subaru owner

brought to be here nice what Subaru do you own

I have a Forester Wilderness 2025 very nice very nice yeah those are cool

so what has your experience been like here at Camp Subaru

it's been excellent it's been

it's far exceeded the expectations that I had okay

because I've never had any experience with any

event like this so it's very unique and that's why we came out here because

if it would have been like something else we already knew we would

probably be like oh it's just like some gimmick or whatever but coming out

here and meeting all these people it's just like

a different way of experiencing some

product basically because it's just a product but then it becomes more than a

product yeah we have this kind of interaction with

other people that use the same product yeah exactly it's been

unique and remarkable about it now did you know anybody before you came to

Camp Subaru or are you meeting all these people for the first time

everybody's brand new we've been only here about a year so

everybody's right now okay we're new to this whole thing

nice amazing so and were you here Friday night

yeah as well yeah we came Thursday night Friday night Saturday

very nice very nice yeah so what do you think is going to be like your biggest

takeaway from this experience

probably the different approach because usually

marketing and brands I guess in their

in their projecting their brand or whatever they tend to be

condescending maybe yeah but Subaru is a different brand and they just

you know you bought they you bought their product but then now

it offers something else that it's without attachment so yeah

that's why when we were invited we were like I don't even know what this is

but that's why we tried it yeah now that we're here we're like okay this is

great yeah because there's no strings attached it's not like

you know it's yeah they're not trying to get something out of you yeah it's

just like they're doing this for you and that's honest yeah and that's what

comes through and so that makes it different and yeah Joe with Subaru

like he's done such a great job of curating all of this and putting this

together and you know I like there's been a camp

Subaru with the previous Overland Expos this year and so it's had nothing but

positive feedback so it's really cool to come out here and

enjoy talking about your cars enjoy the outdoors

enjoy some camping you know sharing some great food

and I'm sure stories with each other so it's been nice

yeah so yeah yeah well thanks for hopping on the mic

oh you're welcome all right thank you for having me thank you're welcome

okay I have my next guest here why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself

hi my name is Kimberly Haskins I'm from Centennial Colorado

all right and what Subaru do you drive um I drive a 2016 hyper blue

uh cross track oh so that sure is over there very nice so what has your

experience been like here at Camp Subaru this has

been the best camping trip of my life I came out here

I'm a little introverted but I have an introverted side but

I had moved up to Centennial March had not made any new friends and

um I got this email from Subaru requesting like hey like we got this

camping opportunity up in Loveland tell us what you love about Subaru

and I spoke about the insurance institute of highway safety crash test

um IIHS I talked about how much um it mattered me that I was driving a

safe vehicle because I was hit by a drunk driver years ago lost my father in

accident so um I spoke passionately about that and

their environmentalism and all their other um pro initiatives when it comes

to like taking care of the environment being good stewards of our neighbors

so um I've never came across a coming that had

as close similar values as I do and it's just been a great time it made

so many friends out here so when you before you came to Camp

Subaru had you connected with any of these people in any way

there were a couple of people that I knew indirectly from the

Colorado Springs Subaru community okay so yeah so that's good so it's probably

a little bit easier to come out here knowing at least a couple of people

yeah everyone uh bought the Subaru for similar values that

you do that they're all outdoors they probably love camping and

they love dogs yeah yeah so it was really easy to make friends

okay so what has been your like favorite part of being part of Camp

Subaru here so a couple of days ago um when we all kind of checked in

Thursday night to the campsite we had a giant giant

windstorm blow-through it was knocking everyone's it was knocking our

Subaru banners down and you saw like all the all the

Subaru Camp Subaru campers running around with

um the little like stay cameras or an extra stakes extra guidelines so we're

checking on our neighbor's tests making sure they're secure and the

snakes are fleshed around it's really awesome seeing everyone helping

you chill her out in here yeah it's it's such a great community and like

I know I've talked to so many people on the podcast who bought their Subaru and

didn't know that there was a community and then they find out that there's the

community and then I've had so many people say like

so many of my best friends now are my best friends because I bought a Subaru

and I could connect to all these people so but it's nice for them to

bring people together that don't know each other already

and put this together and you know bring them all

and you know into something that they're all passionate about which is the car

and then to company and then to be able to put this together for them I think

was pretty cool so yeah well thanks for hopping on the

mic for a bit thank you so much you're welcome all right thanks

do you want to hop on the mic or why not all right let's see you want to go a

little farther away yeah let's do that

all right I'm here with my next guest why don't you go ahead and

introduce yourself my name is Benjamin Carrier

and I'm here from Durango Colorado all right at

the Boyd Lake State Park for the Overland Expo Mountain West

all right so how did you find out about Camp Subaru

I know Rob with Off-Road Roos yeah and um he

he came down in July to Durango and um did

off-roading event and camp out for the night okay and then he

asked if I wanted to help volunteer and help run the

run a trail one run on Friday and he said you can come up and you can have

admission to this event and stuff and so I said sure why not I've never

been to the expo and so I kind of I didn't

like have to take a survey or anything I kind of was just told about it

and then offered it and so I decided to come on up and camp out and it's

been really great nice nice yeah so what has your

experience been at the camp here it's been really great met a lot of

really nice people um met a buddy Chris Ingram that's

Silver Rue Off-Road yeah great guy yeah we camped together last night

and we went trailing me him and Ken Aldrich um

in our Subaru's on Friday in the Switzerland trail

nice and then the camp's just been great it's really nice spot

um and it's really fun coming together every night to have

have a campfire and get to chat with everyone yeah so what's Subaru do you

drive I have a 2010 um Outback 25 and it's

lifted about three inches oh nice and I've just finished

installing the print suerack on it okay sweet yeah yeah yeah and it's

same color as my son so that's cool yeah I like that yeah

so what what do you think is like your biggest takeaway from camp Subaru

this weekend um probably say just all the cool connections all the

companies I've talked to um and all the new people I've met is

always great it's really neat being able to um come out here and we all

have a commonality for just getting out and enjoying

enjoying camping or off-roading or the love for the cars

and getting to meet a bunch of um cool people and

check out some new companies has been really neat yeah and then here at the

camp having some good food and being provided and

you know it's yoga breakfast and everything so

it's uh I'm sure it's been a really fun experience and did did you know

anybody here at the camp before you got here

so I didn't like I guess not really like I had talked to Chris and Ken

online um and I had I had vaguely heard about some

people online but I had really not met anyone else like I kind of

chatted with them online so it was pretty much a new experience getting to

meet everyone yeah yeah I can't for the most part

nice nice so I'm glad that they were able to put this together and

you know get all the Subaru owners together and and just have a good time

and camp out and stuff but you know before the event and during the event

yep totally I really hope they do it um continue to do this

because yeah you know it's a really awesome thing to do and especially in

Colorado it gets a lot of a lot of people um out that don't

know about it too yeah absolutely it's more community

yeah yeah cool thanks for hopping on the mic for a bit yeah thanks for

having me on you're welcome yeah all right

I've got another victim I mean another guest here on the podcast for Camp

Subaru uh yeah because I just I wanted to I hadn't

done this before at the previous uh Overland Expos where I talked to people

at Camp Sob like when I was here last night we were all

everybody was talking and I was like you know this would be a good opportunity

to talk to people about the actual camp yeah so yeah so go ahead and

introduce yourself yeah hey I'm Jessica Swift um I'm a Subaru owner

I have a 2025

uh Forester Wilderness very nice um it is yeah but I'm gonna I'm gonna ruin your

podcast a little bit the 2026 Subaru Forester Wilderness

um I saw it today and it has the cool console

in the middle so like the bigger screen yeah um so I have car envy already

and I've only owned my car for a month so

I don't know maybe there might be a three Subaru family

hey yeah you never know yeah so what has your experience been like here at

Camp Subaru and then how did you find out about it

okay so I'm gonna flip flop your question how did I find out about it

I got a random email I think you've heard that a lot

yes uh and so I read my emails that's good it's important sometimes uh and I

responded so some dude asked me some questions

about about my Subaru and I answered the questions

and then a couple of weeks days weeks I don't I can't remember uh later he

said congratulations you've been selected as you know one of the

owners to come and and hang out with us and here's the deets

let me know if you really are interested because this is

for real for real yeah and it's only a select number of people yeah

25 people yeah right out of hundreds of applicants so I was like well

I never win anything that's so cool oh like if you're like a winner

right yeah um so then I'm like well how did I get selected and that's a big

mystery and we won't get into that um but

yeah so we're here and it's it's been really really groovy to get to know all

the other Subaru owners to see the cool things that they can do with

their cars if they have done with their cars oh yeah um I learned how to use the

paddles on my steering wheel which I hadn't done for um the ascent or

descent and on any of the things that I'm doing so like

just super smart stuff and and silliness but also how to soup up

your Subaru oh yeah yeah so were you here Thursday night

for oh yeah we've been here the whole time okay so what has been your favorite

part about being here at the campsite for Camp Subaru

honestly it's and this is going to sound really weird

because the C word cult isn't isn't normally something that one embraces

but a Subaru cult it's kind of it's kind of wild like

spread the love right um so it's it's been just seeing all these

Subaru owners and and how cool they are and you can almost

just feel the the energy like the the the aura and I don't want to get too

like metaphysical yeah that's great um but

yeah just you know that there's an aura that people give off

um that that are Subaru owners and it's it's a chill vibe it's fun

community camaraderie yeah and like now we're gathered out of

fire sharing a playlist and just talking about all the cool

things we can do with our cars and you didn't know anybody

before you came out here like that's at the camp I didn't

okay so were you kind of like nervous meeting a bunch of new people

or were you also like well they all in Subaru's so that makes it a little

bit easier no I was totally weirded out I'm

an introvert okay um and very very shy

but they all made it very easy to become an extrovert

or to get to know everyone um and we actually have started

I don't know I'm gonna go live now and make my manifest

um a reality um we started a Subaru Colorado camping group for girls

but dudes are invited yeah but you just have to know one of the chicks that's

going yeah just can't be some random so our first trip is

gonna be to um Grand Junction and we're probably gonna do it in the

next three months which is awesome pretty fire yeah and

it all stemmed because of this it all started here and I have thank you camp

Subaru I have new best friends like honest to God

for life so thank you yeah yeah that's great that's

seeing I'm glad I came over here because it's these are the kind of

stories that we want to hear and I think these are the kinds of stories

that it's good for Subaru to hear yeah it's wild

yeah so that's that's why I wanted to come over here and talk to some people and

see what their experience is like and that's a really great experience and

what a great story it really is and and we're so excited and we're talking

about like how can we make our subarus

match right like so we live in different cities different

different states even how can we like show some sort of like

even more just not just the Subaru but like do we get special Subaru

emblems do we like what do we do a decal made or show how that we're doing

these different things yeah so the sky's the limit we're super excited and

and it would not have happened without this experience

yeah super cool yeah glad to hear it yeah thank you for hopping on the mic for

a little bit absolutely love it all right thank you thanks

you're welcome all right I'm here with my next

guest and why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself

I'm Jason all right welcome Jason I talked to you earlier today at

overland expo but I wanted to come chat with people here at camp Subaru so

have you been here since Thursday night no I got here Friday afternoon

okay all right that pesky job you know oh yeah yeah

so how did did you get a random email about this for Camp Subaru

yeah got a random email I thought it was a scam at first

and you know so I was actually from Subaru

putting the application was like ah there's no way I'll get picked and

here I am all right so and you did you happen to know anybody here at the camp

before you came out nope not a soul okay and so what has your

experience been like so far here at the campsite and meeting all these people

it's been great everyone's wicked friendly food's been great

great community had tons of fun at the expo

it's been a great time all around good mom glad that

I'm glad that Subaru did this and you know got people together for the camp

I mean we've got a campfire going and so what would you say has been like your

favorite part about the camping experience here

ooh that's a good one um I love that everyone's loving my dog buddy

yeah nice he's kind of been the star of the show which has been great

he loves the attention um I mean it's been great to see everyone out

see all the different camping styles you know you have some people in tents

some people in fully decked out Subaru's some people with trailers

so it's great to see all the different ways that people use their Subaru

yeah very nice yeah so it's been uh and I know they they brought some they've had

breakfast have you been doing the yoga in the morning

I am not really a yoga person so I've been skipping those

yeah now how you haven't been skipping breakfast have you

no breakfast was fantastic good yeah I've heard they've had some good

food here so it's nice to hear get your day going right

out to go out to the expo yeah I always love when someone cooks for me

yeah that's really nice too well thank you so much for hopping on the mic for a

little bit yeah for sure all right thank you

all right I've got my next guest here why don't you go ahead and introduce

yourself hi my name is Don I know Don what

what's Subaru do you drive I just traded in a 2020

Outback Onyx for a 2025 Wilderness Outback very nice good upgrade there

third Subaru oh very good very good nice so

I'm guessing you got a random email about this camp Subaru and

decided to apply and and here you are correct I did

it was very random yes and I was excited to

get to join this group of folks all right and have you been out here since

Thursday night yes okay all right so what was your like

thoughts before coming into Camp Subaru like did you have any expectations

about it or are you just like I'm just going to see how it goes

I didn't really have any expectations of course we met

at um out and had breakfast on a mountain

oh nice west of Boulder I can't remember the name of the mountain

was this Thursday afternoon or Thursday morning oh Thursday morning okay

nice and we had breakfast and then we took off on different excursions

okay yeah a hike off-road drive and then a drive

Rocky Mountain I believe a trail ridge so we all got to choose our own little

excursion which was we broke off into groups and then we all

ended up here for dinner yeah so did you happen to know anybody

by chance before you met up with all these people

no okay nobody at all all right and were you like

a little nervous about meeting a bunch of new people

not really I was kind of excited because it was we all had

something in common yeah yeah and we're all going to be camping so it's going to

be a I was looking forward to a great experience of

community yeah no new people yeah absolutely so

what has your experience been like now that you've been at the camp for a

couple of nights it's been amazing we've had

great food we've had great camaraderie

everybody's kind of from different areas yeah of Colorado I believe

oh nice yeah and and it looks like we built a great friendship so now we're

planning on a group and hoping to get together and do other

trips yeah it's really cool because like it's nice that Subaru brought

random people together to do this I think that's like a really smart move

because it gives you an opportunity to meet other

people that are passionate about something that you're passionate

about which is your Subaru and then it gives you the

opportunity to meet new people and make new friends

that's always a good thing and we were um invited to bring

a family man family members or friends or guests so

nice did you bring anybody with you I brought a friend of mine who lives here

and she lives in Jonestown okay each other

in Louisiana nice and I live here in loveland

okay yeah so and it was her first camping trip

oh very nice now got the camping bug she also has a Subaru

okay good so it's just been a great time I'm glad I was invited

yeah so what would you say is like gonna be your biggest takeaway from this

we got to learn to change out a CBT axle I guess

yes that was really cool the demonstration there yeah that was cool

the just the fellowship that we in the friendships I

hope will be lasting so it's yeah and the camping

so it's been great to camp here yeah it has been nice so

well thank you so much for hopping on the mic real quick you are so welcome

thank you for having us out here you're welcome thank you

I'm here with my next guest why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself my

name is Carolyn hello Carolyn nice to meet you

so what has been your experience like here at Camp Subaru

well this is an odd group of people but they're nice

okay good well that's good and we all drive Subaru's

that's the best part and the most important part

so I'm guessing you also got a random email about a random email yes

okay about coming to camp and I live in loveland

oh very nice that's very convenient very convenient

so what Subaru do you drive a 2017 outback very nice nice 128,000 miles

oh good good you're catching up to me I have 132,000 miles on my

21 cross track oh yeah but they're fun I have so many miles because I love

driving it so when you got the email and you

decided or you were picked to come here were you like a little nervous about

meeting people you hadn't met before no

okay well that's good that's good when I started researching

what style of overlanding camping was I go

this is probably out of my league yeah yeah

so I'm guessing you've had a good time here at Camp Subaru yes

what would you say has been your favorite part of it

the weather has been very good the weather has been very nice it got a

little warm today but like in the east like right now it feels

so good and the get-togethers in the evenings are nice

yeah and then I've heard there's been really good breakfast here too

I've been sleeping at home so I haven't really been here for breakfast

gotcha okay okay so you just here in the evening

part-time camper I'm a day camper gotcha okay well that's good that's fine

so yeah you think you would do this again if they decided to do it next year

oh yes but I understand it's going to be in Virginia

oh yeah well they're so that's they're continuing on

with Virginia is the next stop but for 2026 if they come back

to Loveland to do Overland Expo again and Subaru comes again

sure they sent me an email and I was free yeah okay

all right sounds good is there anything else you want to share about

like what your like what your takeaway from all this is

it was it was very nice it was interesting seeing all these

monster mobiles that people camp in yeah absolutely yeah I know there's some

pretty big rigs out here my style is more vintage okay yeah campers

all right nice well thank you so much for hopping on the mic

well thank you you're welcome nice to meet you

okay ready one two three camp Subaru all right cool thank you thank you

you're welcome

there you have it day two and as I was recording those

conversations there at Camp Subaru about halfway through I was thinking it

would be fun to do the camp Subaru at the

very end so got everybody to agree to do that so

that was pretty cool but anyway here we go with the third day of conversations

at Overland Expo Mountain West and this first guest I had on I was

trying to be really cool so I lowered my voice some as you can hear

actually I was just I think I was really tired but uh yeah I was listening

to it when I was editing and I was like what was going on was I like

trying to be cool or something but no I was just

tired but uh it's totally worth it so here we go

all right we're here at Overland Expo Mountain West day three and I'm here at

the Sherpa tent and booth I'm sitting here with Alex how's it going man

I'm doing really well yeah it's been an awesome weekend good good

how many uh Overland Expo's have y'all participated in like how many years have

y'all been doing this so we probably went to our first

Overland Expo in 2019 so we've been at it for a little while nice

yeah and how long has the company been in business we started in 2017

okay and so I heard that y'all are now getting into the Subaru

Subaru market which is really cool yeah we've had a lot of requests

and excitement from the Subaru space to offer some products for the

Subaru's we've had employees who have Subaru's asking for it so

um we made it a priority and this summer we've been doing a ton of

prototyping and a ton of fitments um for a lot of the

current generation and previous generation Subaru's so come in October

first we're launching eight fitments in the Subaru space

very nice very nice so I saw the Forester hybrid that Kerry and Milton

have built out over there with the Sherpa rack it looks really good on there

so that was the first time I'd seen one and then I saw

Chris's Forester this morning with his rack so it's looking good it's nice

to see y'all come into the Subaru market I think that's pretty good

yeah we're really excited there's a lot of opportunity in the Subaru space so

many people have expressed the need for additional storage on the Subaru's it's

already a relatively small platform and yeah

everyone that has Subaru's is into so many hobbies so being able to

carry all that with you and not have to be so

picky with what you bring with you on a trip being able to bring a lot more

of it your bikes to your stand-up paddle boards

more camp here get heavier rooftop tents up on top of the Subaru

they're really excited to see it yeah so I'm sure that y'all are

going through and looking at all different types of

I guess racks and systems and accessories for

different things that people are doing yeah just getting like feedback from

people on what they want to see yeah exactly so the nice thing is we have a

really good understanding of how to make a good rack system what people are

usually trying to carry on the racks the Subaru space we've tried to get a

lot more consumer feedback to see what they are bringing out on trips and

what they want to mount on their rigs yeah we kind of come from the off-road

space where people are carrying recovery equipment

they have a lot of their camp gear up there we started in that more like

hardcore rock crawling space okay and the Subaru

space is surprisingly closer to that than we had

anticipated people are taking these things down a lot

more technical roads than we had anticipated we thought it would more

so be like people trying to go up to the mountains and go skiing

you know a little bit more ability on in those adverse weather conditions on roads

but we've been really surprised by how many folks are taking these all the

same places we're bringing our built Toyotas and Jeeps and stuff like that

so it's a relatively similar crossover to that

that market than we had anticipated when you've got these two crazy people

over here doing all the stuff they're doing

they're uh yeah they're definitely helping out with that yeah and maybe

they're skewing our perception a little bit they might be on the more

hardcore end but no it's cool to see that that's all

happening in the Subaru world yeah and it's cool to see what they're doing with

their rigs and what's capable of how you can

build out a Subaru and what it's capable of and yeah of course they're doing

more extreme things that than a lot of other people will be doing but

there's still people that are doing some pretty

more than typical stuff with their Subaru's which is really exciting

yeah it's it's been really cool and we're excited to continue to dive

into it I feel like we're just dipping our toe into the water and

we have so much more to learn about the Subaru market and so many more people

to meet and probably a lot more events to attend but

we've been doing Overland Expo for a long time now and it's been really cool to

just see the reception in the Expo world here

with the Subaru stuff a lot of the people who already have our racks on other

rigs at home are excited to be able to put it on their

Subaru's yeah or have been thinking about switching to the Subaru

platform nice so I would really love to get

y'all and do a full episode to find out more about the history of the brand

and then like how you guys all met and got started the name

you know where the name came from and all that kind of stuff would you want to

try to do something around October where you're going to be releasing all

these these versions of it yeah we would absolutely love to sit down and

talk about it there's a pretty cool history with our company

we're all pretty young we started back in high school in college and we

just love tinkering and it started from a love of the hobby

and being outdoors and we've just turned it into a job and

growing a lot of people with us so it's been really rad that's awesome yeah well

I look forward to it and sharing your story

and getting more recognition out there for Sherpa and the Subaru community

well we appreciate it thank you so much you're welcome thank you

so we're here at Overland Expo Mountain West day three and I'm sitting here

with Tiana Tiana nice to meet you Dom

Dom nice to meet you both so I understand you drive it's a 2023

Forrester wilderness that's correct okay and you said that you've only owned

Subarus or you will only own Subarus for both yes okay

so how many have you had so far this is my third one actually

yeah so what'd you have before this one I had a 2008 Outback so I'd had a pretty

big upgrade I love that body style though

yes it's like that's my favorite generation of Outback yeah it was like

perfect for everything that I was doing I had it all throughout grad school

and like great for camping and like storage and stuff and then before that

I had a Outback again or not an Outback of Forrester but I

don't remember what year it was like an old boxy yeah I loved it

Tram was penny she was great yeah I on the way here I saw a

gold Forrester like that boxy body style and I'm like

I was just like oh my gosh I love it so much she she did me good for a long

time also through college was she was it manual or automatic automatic

I've never learned he's never taught me no but I have a manual

in Prezza and I love it yeah yeah my cross-track is manual yeah

it's it's you're still more connected to the to the car to the road and I

really like it but I haven't taught her how to drive manual yet

yeah it's so fun I taught my son how to drive it because he was

he was turning 16 like when I had my cross-track

and so I'm like you know it's a it's a dying skill

and so I'm like I want him to learn how to drive

you know it's manual yeah my parents my first car was a

manual my parents were like you have to learn how to drive a manual first

because if you can drive a manual that you can drive anything right exactly and

then they were like if you're in Europe ever because a lot of cars in Europe

manual um you're renting a car anywhere so that's a good point I never really

thought about that yeah yeah my parents my parents made us me and my

brother yeah no that's good that's good that's great

I it's funny because like whenever I because like I'm renting a car here

because I live in Houston so I flew out here and so

whenever like especially all of these roundabouts when I'm going

through the roundabouts and all this kind of stuff as I'm driving the automatic

that I have I'm thinking about how I would be

shifting gears as I'm going through these turns and wishing that I could be

shifting gears yeah as I'm going through the turns

because you know it's like you you get the timing right with your

shifting and what gear you're in everything through certain turns

and stuff and it just makes it more fun it does

what year is your in prezzo that's uh 2015 oh right yeah just the the base

in prezzo yeah that's what I have the base cross right yeah

it's great I love it yeah I've had it for six years now something like that

okay yeah she's great all right yeah is this your first time coming to

Overland Expo yeah this is our both of our first

times coming to Overland Expo yeah okay so did y'all know that Subaru was

gonna be here or did you just happen to see them as you are coming through

here no we were we were wondering if they'd be

here because we love super is more like a super family and then my brother was

like oh yeah super is over here and we're like oh let's go check it out and this

is a nice setup yeah yeah yeah that's because oh

that was one of one of the questions I wanted to ask is like what do you think

about this whole setup and the way that they've got it laid out

I think this is wonderful I feel like they've got a really good kind of

view of some of the different models I got a chance to like talk to a

couple people who were like looking at the most recent Forester and they

were asking about the version I had so I really like it I think it's

really nice they have a little guest lounge and snacks and drinks I don't

think I've seen any other vendor have anything like that set up

yeah and yesterday when it was raining we were all huddled under here and I was

like I'll bet none of the other booths have a little spot for their owners to

huddle huddle under yeah it was super nice

no it's nice that y'all I mean there are people that come here

this year for Overland Expo because they're you know several different

locations and there are people that knew that Subaru was going to be here

so they intentionally came by but it's nice to hear

people that didn't know that Subaru is going to be here and then they discover

that so that's really cool yeah absolutely it was a nice surprise

yeah yeah so and and so like last year Subaru did a

little test run at the one in California and so they did a lot of

data gathering with that and they decided let's go ahead and

do it and take a shot at it and let's do Overland Expo in 2025

so I'm glad they're here they brought me out here

they brought some other people out here that I know to do like little

demonstrations over there with Carrie and Milton so

it's been such a great venue and I think it's a perfect spot for Subaru

absolutely I feel like a lot of people in the outdoor space

own Subaru's and so I'm glad to see that they're represented here because I

know there's a lot of other options like the vans and other things but we

we wanted to get the wilderness edition so that we could

tow a trailer with like something like a

like a bean or something like that on the back end and

yeah and that's why we ended up getting the wilderness it's got a little bit more

of that towing capacity so now that we've had it for a little bit

we're in the market and so this is like the perfect place for Subaru to be and

to like look at things that you can add on to it oh yeah you've got plenty of

accessories here that you can go look at and see what you want to do with it

have you done any modifications to your impresa or is it just it's just

it's pretty stock yeah it's just a commuter car for me mostly okay the

four-wheel drive you know in the snow here

helps and stuff like that yeah but yeah nothing to mind

and we haven't done anything to yours yet either I mean with the wilderness stuff

you don't really need to do all that much we've taken it

in some pretty crazy places honestly we took your outback

in some pretty crazy places too um and it just yeah they just go

I know yeah yeah we we don't get snow in Houston but

we do occasionally but we get when we get some heavy rains there's mud

there's some spots that I know where there's some mud

and one of the things that I like to do is just get out in the middle of the mud

and just stop and then just start driving and I'm like

I'm just so amazed that it just goes right through it like it's nothing

you know unless you get in like the really really thick mucky mud

other than that it just goes right through you know but I have had the

opportunity to drive some Subaru's in the snow because I've traveled and

gone to some other places and so I've driven an outback

through some snow and I've driven a first-gen cross-track that was

lifted through some snow in a Lake Tahoe area and it was

so fun and my son got to drive it through the snow too so it was really really cool

yeah we've been in some pretty gnarly situations like we lived out in Grand

Junction for a while and now we live on the front range but

when we were in school we would have to come back for like Christmas breaks

or other things you're driving in like pretty pretty gnarly whether they'd

close the highways down and I've never felt unsafe in the cars

that we've had which is why we keep buying them

like I feel like we've always been in in a pretty safe safe situation yeah

yeah yeah and what's your name oh hi I'm Grant

Grant and do you have a Subaru I do not okay I currently own a Nissan XTERRA

okay those are nice too yeah I've always liked those those are super cool but

um I've been out here this is my first time at Overland and my best friend

Tanyin has a second gen 2019 cross-track that he's built out

I think he's been on your guys's podcast before for a full breakdown on his build

as well oh nice what was his name uh his name's Tanyin

but his Instagram handles NASA Trek oh okay yeah cool yeah cool yeah yeah

yeah it's uh it's this is a fun venue I'm really glad to see that Subaru is here

yeah it's been really great I on day one met up with Milton and Kerry

they're awesome yeah their builds are really cool

yeah so yeah it's been pretty exciting to like see

how customizable they've made all of their vehicles and

yeah the the Forrester hybrid that they're building out over here is really cool

the new Forrester and I really like the Sherpa wings that they have on the

side yeah that they're about to come out with

because the the Orvis wings are just so wide

on on this one and yeah it's really cool to see

the companies like making it more like slim sleek

yeah yeah it's good well thank you guys for stopping by and

checking it out thanks for hopping on the mic some people were like a little

nervous and don't want to do it but y'all seem kind of excited so I figured

out asking thank you so much you're welcome yeah it was really fun

yeah I appreciate it thank you for having us you're welcome

all right so we're here at Overland Expo Mountain West and this is day three

I'm sitting here with Julie how's it going it's going great thanks for asking

you're welcome thank you for wandering through the Subaru

space that we've got here what do you think of the whole setup

well I think it looks great I love the owner's lounge I honestly was

surprised to see Subaru here I've been to Overland before and hadn't

seen it in years past so the setup looks great and

yeah yeah yeah and we're sitting here in the owner lounge just relaxing and

having a good time yeah so I like it when people say that they

didn't know that Subaru is going to be here and that they're surprised because

so Subaru did a little like pilot last year at Overland Expo in California

and they just gathered some data you know came up with some ideas of what

they wanted to do if they were going to do

Overland Expo in 2025 so they decided to go for it and here we are

yeah well I think actually I mean I think it's a great

I think it's a great gathering here Overland Expo and I think it

makes sense that Subaru is here I know

just kind of the vibe on adventuring and thinking outside the box and going where

you want to go it it it makes sense that you guys are

here yeah and you own a Subaru of course so that's

great what did you what is it that you own I have an outback

okay what year is yours it's 2023 okay and we were chatting

before we got on the mic here but you also owned a cross-track which is

really exciting to me because I own a cross-track

and we both had something similar with ours tell them what yours was

yeah well mine was a manual transmission but and it was orange which is the best

color so yeah it was a great car I loved it

what year was that one uh I'm embarrassed to say I don't

oh remember I think it was a 2016 okay yeah

so an orange was the very first one that I ever saw

and then having a manual too just absolutely love it well I just remember

because there's a hike that I love in outside of where I live in Boulder called

Fourth of July and I remember the last drive I did

in that car I took it up the trailhead it was a pretty rutted road

pretty gnarly out there and just honestly I loved

driving that car and it got me up to the trailhead had a beautiful hike of

course with tons of Colorado wildflowers but it was a very

it's a very positive memory of my bright one yeah

so did you have any modifications on it at all no

no so stock tires and everything yeah stock tires it had enough lift to get over

all the bumps and oh yeah dips and everything it was great

yeah and and those are like situations like that where

I've had people on the podcast where they've talked about

being able to get to further up into places where they want to get to

trailheads that they couldn't get to before and so having a Subaru has just

really helped them explore more and you know do more with

their cars and that's so cool totally I mean we

artwork we love the mountains obviously well not obviously but we do love the

mountains we live here we have a son who's a huge skier we're all

skiers as I mentioned to you before this

conversation we traveled for a year we were in a 24 foot rig but when we got

back and wanted to continue with our adventurous

lifestyle it made sense that we had a Subaru and honestly when we

go up to the mountains and ski in the winter we don't have a big old truck

use our Subaru outback and I love the handling and I

I'm not like a car person I just think cars are a way to get from point A to

point B safely with what you need and a Subaru is what I drive

yeah and they're they have very high safety ratings and

it's like that's one of the big appeals for people too is the safety rating

yeah so but aside from Subaru's we're here for another reason too

you have a book you want to talk about it briefly and tell people what it

is oh thank you for asking yeah so I just did a

seminar here at the Overland Expo there's a you know there's a whole lineup of

of talks and panel discussions so I was talking about

how to make travel when people are out and about

just a deeper more meaningful experience and there were three different

ways I talked about how you can do that through finding community through

volunteer work and through world schooling and world

schooling is learning through direct interaction with the world

so my book is all about world schooling my family traveled for

13 months we took our nine-year-old kid out of school for a year

and used the world as a classroom and it was just an incredible

year of adventure and wonder for us and so I co-authored with two other

women who had traveled with their families at different times

very nice wonder year it's a guide to long-term family travel and

world schooling and thank you for asking you're welcome

so are people able to find this book somewhere right now

yes they can find it at many rai's across the country

very nice Barnes & Noble independent bookstores and of course

amazon okay great well thank you so much thank you yeah it was nice to chat with

you and great to see this book and great to hear about your

Subaru journey so far thank you you're welcome

all right that concludes the bonus episode from Overland Expo Mountain

thank you so much Subaru for having me out to participate in this awesome event

and this whole series that you are participating in

this year for Overland Expo I really really appreciate it I'm

super grateful for the opportunity I'm very thankful that I was able to see

some friends again and also meet some people for the

first time and of course put together these great

conversations that I've had with people in different parts of the

country at each of these events and hopefully on this last one we can

reach our goal again of finding somebody that does not own a Subaru

and has come into the space so we will try hard to do that I've got

everybody out there in the space looking out for me they know what I'm

trying to do so everybody's trying to see if they can

capture somebody that does not own a Subaru of course that is not my only

goal of course I'm recording these these conversations

with people who own Subarus and asking them what they think about the space

asking them what they think about Overland Expo and Subaru being at

Overland Expo so we've had some really great conversations and I know

we'll have some more great conversations in Virginia coming up in

about a month I also want to give a huge shout out to

Road for coming up with the Road Wireless Pro because it has

completely changed my remote podcasting game

it's so nice that I can move around the space sit in different spots

go to other vendors that I've had on the podcast before or new vendors and chat

with them and it just makes the experience so much

greater when I'm not just stuck in one particular spot

so I just I think they're great but anyway

thanks again so much for tuning in really really appreciate it please

share this episode so that more people can hear it because if Subaru is

going to be able to go out to Overland Expo in 2026

it would be great for people to hear what the experience was like so that we

can try to get more people out next year if that is going to be the case

and hopefully get some new people into some Subaru's or get

people that are considering Subaru's into a Subaru

that's what it's all about isn't it so again thank you so much

have a wonderful weekend I'll see you later we'll be

back with the subi scoop on Monday much subi love

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