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Welcome to the Ebonz Podcast. I'm Dan. I'm Nick. I hate them. I'm good. Good. I'm good.

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with anything you got. Disagree. This is way off topic. No new stuff. Kate was watching some video on

YouTube one night. You know, it automatically plays and it was some something where like

this person was telling the other person that they had a crush on them

and then they followed up with that person, the initial person. She's like, yeah, I didn't end

up going out with him after I told him I liked him because he kind of loved bomb me and I'm like,

wait a minute, like you're the one that you can't come to somebody and be like I like you and

then be mad that they love bomb you. It's weird. See? That's my point. Like if I come to

you and go, hey, I have feelings for you and then you give me all those feelings back and

then I go, ooh, that's too much. That seems more like somebody wanted to be chased more

than they wanted to try. I think you're right. I just felt like a validation thing. Yeah. So, yeah.

There's more to that story, I'm sure. I think they're, again, I caught very little of it and we

clicked off it because it wasn't what we were looking to watch, but I was like, wait a minute.

So, yeah. I spent the weekend, went down to the RV fair just to kind of look around,

start looking around for some stuff and nice. Yeah, yeah. Those are always fun. I think

I may have found us a couple of guests. We'll have to see. I've got to work some stuff,

but it's interesting to, I just enjoyed doing it. Kate and I eventually want to airstream my parents

want all of us to buy a, what is it, like an overland vehicle, like a storyteller,

something like that. Right. And I told my parents, I was like, as the family,

if we want to buy something like that, great. And I said, then someday, God forbid,

in 30 years when you pass away, I'll trade it in for an airstream.

But it's interesting to see the technology. I mean, obviously great deals. I'm not here

to sell you an RV, but I was surprised. Like, and I'm sure everything's marked up so that they

mark it down. But, you know, it's, I don't an airstream tomorrow. I can't pull one, but

you pull a tiny one, a little Bambi, what do they call it? Fun? That's no fun.

No, you want like a 22 footer? You do. You do. I mean, yeah. So it's so nice. It's not as,

obviously those are two very different things as far as pulling low into those or taking,

you know, it's one of the Mercedes Sprinter vans off road. But yeah,

ran into a few people. Like I said, I've got a couple of people I'm reaching out to that

I think would be fun guess. Actually, some of the people from Storyteller. So working on that,

but that'd be fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure Brandon and pals got some connections with

him. I know he does. I mean, I don't want to use him all the time. I mean, the man isn't

in Michael. I know between the two of them. They probably know anybody who's ever touched

anything with that's been off road. I agree. It's kind of like they probably taught them

how to be off road. So yeah, there's some new toys in that collection. Thanks to Michael.

They're not with Michael. They're with Brian. He really, if Brian has ventured

way out of his Chevy shell, I don't get it was funny because it was Mr. I'm going to put all the

miles on this truck. Then all of a sudden one day he was in the Chinese like, I need to stop

putting miles on this truck. Well, you doubled, you know, in a year. But yeah, he ended up

caught what he got a Monteiro Monteiro and a grand Cherokee like that were in the fleet

for SARS and search and rescue, search and rescue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun to see

him in something different. Since it's always fun to see who use their vehicles,

drive other vehicles. He's different all of a sudden. He was talking about buying a Ford one

day like we talked about. Once you go Bronco Raptor, there's you just can't be off road off road.

And that's why I thought about it. I really did. I thought about just selling a kidney

when I got the Ranger Raptor, but it just didn't. If I didn't need to tow, I'd buy another one.

Yeah. In a heartbeat. It's just too much fun. And it's so much better off road than

anything we've judged. And it's fun on the street because it's got more than enough

power to get around. You know what it's like. It's the same engine and basically, you know,

Ranger Raptor 37. Great power, great everything, but it's just watching that gas gauge go down. Oh,

yeah. One thing that is funny because Brian Dallas messaged us today and it's something that I

knew that they were doing mule. I don't know if they're the first ones to do it, but they

locally actually might have been down in their Portland store. They put an extended range

tank on a Ranger Raptor, which a lot of people do obviously are on their off road vehicles

because the tank on my truck sucks. It's like 18 gallons or something. Same with the Bronco.

But it made me go out and look, and I've looked at them before, but in order for them to get that

36 gallon tank in there, it blocks so many little things that it gets really close to the rear

suspension to the point where I feel like if you ever had to service the rear suspension,

you might have an issue with that tank. I don't know. I'd be interested.

We know the guys from Mule. We should call them again. God, that was one of our first

interviews we did in my apartment in Delview. Yeah, fun. They're always good guests. They've

always got great stories and they've always got amazing projects. Kind of taken over the industry

too. Yeah, the least. I really wish that was something more manufacturers put more thought

into. Like the F-150 Raptor has a 34 gallon tank, 3435 somewhere in there,

and that's fantastic. I get on a bad day with a heavy foot. I'm still getting 450 miles of

a tank, which obviously to our listeners, that's not a lot out of 35 gallons, but that's a lot of

range. If it's not good mileage, it's still good range. That is really nice to have because I rarely

have to take fuel stops. I go on trips, I think that and small trucks just never have big enough

tanks ever. Well, obviously smaller trucks, smaller everything. Yeah, but like cram more

space in there. I mean, if you can fit 25 gallons in a Porsche GT3 RS, you can fit 25

gallons under an off-road vehicle in a truck. That's pretty much everybody

off for the endurance tank on the Porsches, and I don't know why they don't do it on trucks.

Well, obviously in some of the smaller trucks, and I think I'm sure some of them do, but they need

saddle tanks. That's the biggest issue is the fact that you put all this weight on one side of the

truck, especially on the Ranger, it runs right under the bed on one side. And there's part of

that. Like I was watching some of those videos of people that put those tanks in and like

they had to their suspension, they had to change the suspension down, not the geometry,

but like crank up the coils. Oh, yeah. Because she was sitting all of a sudden put 36 gallons on

one side of a truck. So yeah. Things you don't think of. No. Yeah. All right. Let's start Carter

Subaru tip of the week, please. Do you know what a map sensor actually is? It's a sensor for your

map. That's right. Just like when I was in... Indirectly? Indirectly, you are correct.

My family, I've told this story before, but I literally, the question in like seventh grade

something was like, what's the corn belt? And I said it's a belt of corn. I got that answer

wrong. My mother talks to me about that to this day. Apparently, that's not the right answer.

Make the Bible Belt more entertaining. It's a belt full of Bible.

No, it's a manifold absolute pressure sensor is what it's called map sensor. And that's,

well, when I say you're indirectly correct, it's because there's a lot to do with your fuel

mapping. Its primary role is to measure the absolute pressure, the pressure, that is,

the pressure as it compares to a vacuum inside the intake manifold. So once the data is collected,

it's sent to the engine control unit, the ECU, and which uses that information to figure out

the air's density, helping it determine the amount of fuel to inject and also adjust ignition

timing. So because what inside the manifold, there would be a vacuum because you'd be

sucking air in, you're not going to have that. Yeah, it's right behind your air intake.

And so, yeah, basically, if when your map sensor is going bad, it tends to,

it's, well, it just shows less vacuum. And then you can, it'll scrub all your fuel.

Yay. Yeah, you get terrible mileage. That's the first thing, unnoticeable power. There's

a reason your map sensor is so important and they have map sensor special cleaners for it.

It's like a contact cleaner. And it's not usually something you need to service,

but I bring it up because if you drive in really dusty conditions off-road a lot,

you don't change your air filter enough, driving to and from, this is dust, or if you don't change

your air filter enough and you're stuck in traffic all the time, soaking up everybody's

smog, that can gum up your map sensor. Interesting. So not math, map. I wasn't

good at that. I wasn't good at mapping. Not your mass air flow, your map. Man,

hold absolute pressure. So check into that. If you haven't looked at your map sensor for a while,

you've got an older vehicle. It's just one of the services people forget about. That's why I

brought it up. I was looking, an article popped a bunch of Loptic and I was like, oh yeah,

I forgot all about that. It's one of those things that I've had to service before in older

vehicles. We haven't talked about sense because you don't hear about it a lot, but

cars are expensive. Keeping them in good shape helps them be less expensive.

I'll tell you, we're talking about that at our house, like Kate's car is out of warranty now

and it's like, you know, she has a great car payment and I love the car, but it's like,

you start going, and it's a Subaru. Don't get me wrong. Unfortunately, it was not

bought at Carter, but I've always been one of those people. The before times.

PK as we call it, pre-K. I'm guessing her PN, pre-NIC. And I'm starting to look at it,

going okay, I'm looking at what can go wrong with these cars and like, is it cheaper to

go in and get a new car and just get something with a warranty and then just keep paying

on it or, you know, so. Yeah. That's a big question. Yeah. So that's a minefield of question.

The overall consensus is no, it's better to hold onto a car, pay it off and drive it until it dies.

Yeah. That's not nearly as much fun. Obviously, I'm a terrible example of that.

Also, she wants the new Forester hybrid. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it's a nice vehicle.

You know, because I'm worried about this car breaking down, so I'm going to go get a car

that has more technology in it and hope that doesn't break down. If you're rolling them over,

I mean, then maybe it would make sense on a lease. Yeah. And that's, I don't know, I always say that

is a, it's a luxury. A lease is a luxury. Being able to roll over to a new car every

three or four years, you need to think of it more of a luxury than a, this is what people do,

because that's really what it is. You're losing money, no matter what. Oh yeah,

you're losing money anyway. That down payment and then, you know, mileage and if you get

kicked over mileage. So I have a funny story and I'm going to try to tell it very carefully,

because there's a term in there that I'm not sure if I can say or not. So you didn't say it. It's

a great way to think to repeat. Yeah, but I also feel like one of those people like, I didn't say

this, but no, I'm not going to say that word. I was out having, there's been a big debauchery

with the front parking sensor on my truck. One's gone bad and they tried to paint it several

times and it's not gone good. So I finally went down and they paint matched it. And as that truck

tends to do, even at a Ford dealership repair center, it attracts a lot of attention. I was

out talking to these guys and everybody's talking and going, Oh, this is what I want. This is what

I want. And this Hispanic gentleman came out and I, I emphasized the fact that this Hispanic

gentleman came out and said this, because I'm just crossing my T's and dotting my I's here.

Yeah. And I said, Whoa, what do you want? And he goes, Oh, you know, the classic,

you know, short bad, supercharged F 155 liter, you know, the basic Mexican GTR. And I said,

Excuse me. And just so we're clear, he knows who we are in a vaunce and everything. So

not saying any names. But and I go, What? He goes, Yeah, you know, the Mexican GTR. And I go,

and he knows what he's doing to me because I'm struggling because it's like, I was like,

Well, that's not a word I can say. He looks at me goes, It's okay. I'm Hispanic. I can

say it. He goes, You've never heard of that? And I go, No. So I looked it up. It is a thing.

It is a it is a phrase that is said throughout the world. My internet and my phone didn't

shut down and, you know, report me to anybody. But basically, it's any short bed or short box.

What's the short bed? Short bed. No, it's short bed, but short cab. Oh, a single cab,

five liter supercharged all wheel drive. He's like, That's the that's the Mexican version

of the GTR. And I was like, Oh, okay. I was like, you probably should have said that. Absolutely.

I was like, I might want to take one of those over a real GTR. So I was laughing hysterically.

The body guy that was standing there knew exactly what this gentleman was doing to me by saying

we had we had the long conversations about a vaunce and things like that. And he goes,

and so I was like, I'm sharing that. He goes, Oh, please do. I took home my GTR 11 years ago

today. Oh, wow. Today. That's the joke I saw Sean about. I was like, I used to be cool.

That but you took it home or today is the day 11 years ago when you got you accidentally bid

on it on eBay and then went to bed. No, that was, that would have been like a week ago.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Today was the day it went home with me. I picked it up from cats.

If you don't know that story, Dan. Yeah, I was, I was looking at GTRs and I was,

I was going to buy a GTR. I was like, already ready to go. And I was trying to find the right one.

And I found this one on eBay of all places. And it was like, man, this is a really nice,

clean 2013 premium black on black, black cars at the time. It was only a couple of years old.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of years old. And it was a really great price. And so

I did one of those classic, I'm going to throw a low offer at it and see what happens.

And I woke up and I won the bid. And I was like, half excited, half scared of what did

I just do? Yeah. Then I realized, and I did not know this at the time that the car was in Linwood.

It was a cat. This is how I met Roy. Okay. And I, well, I had been there before,

but I hadn't met Roy. I had just been the cats and like looked around and,

you know, drooled over the cars there. And yeah. So that's how I got my GTRs. I literally

lobed all the bid on eBay at the time because, you know, pre cars and bids,

pre bring a trailer, all that. And I wanted GTR back then. Did you have to pay eBay?

Or did you just go to Roy? No, no. Um, you do the, it was through the seller,

but then we basically, it was a long time ago. So we basically sort of unwound the deal from eBay.

Ah, yeah. And I bought it locally. I get it. Okay. Well, you kind of go, I don't want this.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Okay. Fair enough. So that's smart. That saved you some cash.

It saved you some cash. Yeah. Yeah. Which I was happy to do. I was like, I didn't,

I did not even know the car was local. I knew it was like, because I limited

to US searches. And I was like, if it's in the US, I don't care where it is. I'll

just go get it. Yeah. Because it was under warranty. Still under factory warranty.

That was the main thing I was looking for. I was only looking for cars that were full bumper to

bumper, everything warranty. Was it a local car when it was bought? I don't think so.

Oh, okay. Yeah. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. I'm not going to do this. And there will be

a reason why because there's nothing in my bank account right now. But the end knows why.

But I, uh, I've been looking at dual sports again heavily and, and, and going, okay.

Like, and I'm laughing because I want, I want another 450 C, uh, RL. I love that bike.

I absolutely loved it. I might be able to help you out. No, no, we'll talk after the show. No,

I got some ideas. No, it's a good idea. Do you remember that thing I walked in earlier

today and said, we are all buying this? Yes. A lot of my cash went out the door.

I understand. Okay. I got you. That's not, oh God. No, no, no, no. I should not have told

you this. Most expensive friendship I have. This has nothing to do with cars, but we were laughing

because, uh, Kate was over here and we were talking and we realized that, uh, that both

Shauna and Kate are going to be gone for Valentine's Day. You and I are each other's

Valentine's Day with the dogs. I'm really looking forward to it. Kate goes, we're

going to take the dogs. I said, oh, the rooms with the rotating beds, they don't

let you have dogs. It's right. So, yeah. Yeah. Um, an interesting article actually was

sent to me by my wife. Uh, the fact that 600,000 people in Washington state have expired tabs

right now that they know of. That they know of. Now, if you don't know, we talked about this. I,

I joked. I didn't actually mean to do it, but I kind of did it during COVID. I,

I forgot to put tabs on my car for like two and a half years because life, I don't,

which is funny because you'd think I would have bought a bunch of time to go through the mail

and figure out what I hadn't done, but, um, it's a thing. Obviously, if you know,

living in the Seattle area, uh, there's the RTA tax, which can really take, uh, tabs and things

like that. Uh, and so much so that we only shopped out of the RTA zone when buying the house.

Yep. That was a deal breakers. We're not paying more taxes this place than we have to.

That's why I live out here as well. Um, so I mean, and you're talking a comparison of the

fact that like on my brand new truck tabs were 75 bucks. If I had lived in,

in town, it probably would have been six to $800 for tabs. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I know. Yeah.

Yeah. When we looked at, yeah, between the trailer, the two bikes, the R8, the Bronco,

and the F-150 Raptor, you can imagine how big that bill is. And right now, for all, it's funny,

right now the motorcycles is the same cost to me as the R8 in tabs. They're the exact same

price. That actually pisses me off because I got a bill for one of the monkey and they

want $80 for the tabs on the monkey and I was like, I take that back. Both of the bikes have expired

tabs. I'm not putting tabs on the bikes. You're right. I thought about that. I think I actually,

I actually, I put tabs on the, on the Grom before we went to Moab because if we got pulled over,

I, in the back. Yeah. If we do trips out of state, I just put them on, but like,

yeah, trust me, we are not, we're not the target on a monkey in a Grom. I do carry

full insurance. Yeah. Oh yeah. But yeah, it brings up a good topic though because

it's a poor tax and it's in Washington's talking about making it worse. Yeah. And the fact,

if you get caught, they're going to find you, but you brought up a good point that the fine

is probably going to be less than putting tabs on your car. A lot less in a lot of cases.

Whole lot less, $240. I think it's the maximum. I think I let mine go. I'm usually pretty

good about it because it's cheap enough out here on the cars, but I forgot about it one

time for six months or something. I literally just forgot about it. I was like, oh, I need

tabs. I went out one day, I was washing the truck. I was like, oh, I need tabs.

I think it was on the GMC. No, it wasn't the GMC. I only had less than a year.

It was there. It was the older one. I also hate that because if you don't know that,

if you forget six months and then, so if you're supposed to do it in June and you do it in

December and you get tabs in December, the next time you have to get tabs is June again.

Right. No matter what. So, yeah, I've had, in fact, I had that situation when I went in

to get tabs for the cross track in the time, the lady looked at me and she goes,

if I were you, I would wait, wink, wink, a month and buy your tabs. She goes,

or I can sell them to you now and you still have to buy them again another month. And I was like,

thank you. Same thing on the trailer. So, I didn't drive the trailer much.

You don't spend a lot of time behind the back of the trailer either.

Yeah. So, yeah. So, I didn't look at it. I didn't realize they were expired and then I went

to go renew them and they were, I found out the same thing. They were due again in like

a month. She was like, I'm like, I'm not hauling anything for that time period. She's like,

yeah, I just come back in a month then, on a big deal. But yeah, it's not something they really

focus on. We're already severely understaffed in police here. In the cities, it's one thing,

I think what's going to happen is they're just going to go to automated ticket scanning,

which is just, you know, Big Brother will do the tickets.

Yeah. But how do you prove that this just goes to the parking ticket?

Well, they're cracking down on that too with expired tabs. They're going to start ticketing

cars that are parked. Yeah. That's what I mean. It's just going to go to the

automated drive-by scans. Here's your ticket in the mail kind of thing.

No, but I'm saying they're going to, if you don't have tabs on a car that's parked,

they're also going to give you a ticket and find it.

Yes. Yeah. Because as long as it's on the road, they can't do it in your driveway,

but they can do it in the road. Yeah, that's what you think.

Try it. If you've got level four plates, come down my driveway.

Anyway, if you know what that means, you're smiling right now.

Yeah. Well, and what would we say, we looked at that article at 17,

there's what, 17 million unregistered cars in the United States right now?

Yeah. I believe, yeah. Yeah, it's just going up.

Stuff gets more expensive. People start paying what they think is non-essential.

And well, there's no way I'd drive without insurance, but tabs.

It's not like roads are going to get any better anyway.

Just drive without insurance, please. Yeah, no kidding.

Just get minimal. I mean, there are some really good insurance plans out there.

I'm not selling you insurance, but you can get coverage.

Because that's my biggest worry. It's like somebody else hitting me and then being uninsured.

Oh, that's happening twice. Yeah, I have uninsured motor.

Two drivers. Yeah, back in the day.

There's a lot of people out there that are, yeah.

I don't know. It's, I'd be interested to hear some people's perspective on this.

Obviously, we are not condoning not doing it, you know, following the law is important, especially.

Yeah, it's cheap enough out here though.

But I mean, like if I was in downtown Seattle or something again,

or back in Kirkland in that RTA zone, that would be insanely expensive to get tabs.

And it has, I don't know, it's not that checked as long as you keep it in the state,

but I don't see how raising the tab prices is going to improve it.

I mean, nobody wanted these expensive tabs anyway.

I would assume they would start with a fix-it ticket.

I would hope that they go, hey, your tabs are expired, you know, get this fixed.

Because again, adding insult to injury, like you said for a poor tax,

is not the way to get things done.

No, yeah.

So what about, what about you listeners?

How, did you forget about your tabs during COVID?

A lot of us did during COVID.

And I totally understand that.

That was a different time.

Did you wink, wink, nod, nod, forget?

Yeah.

It was a different, I, I still, it feels like it was yesterday.

I know.

And it's been six, five, six years.

Yeah, six years.

Yeah.

Ridiculous.

I miss those empty rows.

Oh man, that was heaven.

There was a lot of people that were doing stupid things on those roads at that time.

Yeah.

And they caught on to it pretty quickly actually, especially on I-90.

Oh yeah.

They were on to that.

Yeah.

New speed limit was a hundred.

Yeah.

It was pretty great.

Safely.

Yeah.

Well, there's nobody around.

Yeah.

Did you get a chance to watch any of the Barrett Jackson stuff that came, you know?

Little bit, actually.

I did.

There was a, of all things, I watched the odd stuff.

The big stuff, like we talked about last time, it's kind of interesting to see the numbers,

but I don't really care that much.

I like to see what stuff I would actually buy is going for.

And Lancaster prices have dropped actually.

Oh, I did not see that.

There was a really nice, really nice 80 series that was built, ready to roll for about 20 grand.

If you remember.

Built and ready for $20,000.

Yeah.

Those are starting to come down a little bit.

Okay.

And so I was checking out some other ones and outside of those insanely rare,

completely original, I only drove it 1000 miles ones that I don't actually ever want

because I want to use a vehicle like that.

That's become much more obtainable.

That's still a lot of money.

Don't get me wrong, but 20 grand for a nice bill 80 series is a good starting point.

For 20 grand, you could buy one and do the engine swap that it needs.

And so, because they were severely underpowered.

I'm not, it's a reliable engine.

It's a terrible engine for power and mileage.

It gets terrible mileage.

It's underpowered.

And it's really not that great compared to like a LS swap.

There's a million LS swap kits.

Anyway, that's part of the equation.

So yeah, stuff like that.

Interesting.

Okay.

Yeah.

And there was a couple of, I saw a couple of K trucks, like really, really clean ones.

Don't get me started.

Yeah.

They're still, they're holding well at a reasonable range.

I've noticed.

I need them to know stuff.

Yeah.

I know.

Missed that $3,000, $4,000 range.

But like, there's a lot of really, really clean ones coming in now for 910 grand.

I don't know how clean, I want rust free, obviously, but I don't care.

It's hard to find.

Yeah.

I don't care how clean they are, because I'm going to make it my own.

Like, I'm going to figure out suspension.

I'm going to do, I'm going to make it mine.

I'm going to probably Hayabusa swap it.

Things like that, you know.

So that's my dream.

Also, I'm going to pin it red, just like the Milwaukee one.

Unless the guy with the Milwaukee one will sell me the Milwaukee one.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

That's another topic I would love to hear about from listeners.

Who has a K truck?

What have you learned?

Yeah.

We need somebody who has one.

I always avoid getting somebody who sells them in here.

I want somebody who owns one and is not selling one.

I want somebody who can come in and give me completely no BS feedback.

If you've had a few and you're a K truck, you know.

Aficionado, yeah.

Yes, that's the word.

Please come on the show and talk to us about K trucks,

because I really want somebody who's lived the experience.

How much can I modify this thing?

Not much is going to cost me.

The dream is there.

The will I fit in it.

Having both the bikes on the back.

Yes.

With the sides down and just, yeah.

Yeah.

Right hand drive.

Stick.

Yep.

That's kind of what I want.

Ironically, I want the Subaru.

Yeah.

The Subaru fits better and it's got way more power.

Yeah.

The sandbar.

And I feel like I could do a lot more with it, but yeah.

I think they look cooler too.

They're all, I mean, I'm getting so many videos of people

that are drifting their K trucks in Japan

on my Instagram feed right now.

Like, and the funny thing is, is like,

you watch drift videos in the mountains in Japan.

They're moving.

The guys in the K trucks aren't really moving that fast

and they're doing it on snow.

So it doesn't really count, but it's fun to watch.

It's not like they have a lot of power to drift out of them.

No, no.

They're way out of power.

I think they're going downhill too.

So yeah.

Yeah.

Man.

So this weather's been nuts here, well, across the country.

So normally I don't want to just talk about the weather, but man.

Your knees hurting?

No.

I have been so thankful I've had S-Tec on the,

on all the vehicles because that.

The rocks.

Yeah.

Constant debris, man.

I have been just peppered and hammered

with between the freezing and the rain,

the freezing and the rain.

It has made for some nasty driving conditions,

pretty much everywhere.

We've actually had it easy here.

The flooding is over and now it's just cold

and it's usual self here.

Actually it's wetter than normal here than it is this time of year.

I know if you're in the east coast,

you're stuck in that cold snap.

I'm sorry.

That looks awful.

Kate's aunt and uncle are in North Carolina and it's 16 degrees.

Yeah.

Luke was just up in Alaska for work and he got there

and it was negative 24 when he arrived.

That's nice.

It got down to negative 40 that day before he arrived.

He's built like me though.

He'll be fine.

Built like a polar bear.

Yeah.

Our favorite snowboarder did get arrested.

Okay.

So did he, we talked about that and literally when I got home

that night, did he get arrested or did he turn himself in?

He turned himself in.

Why?

I don't, I think he was just under two,

like he probably couldn't go to the point where he couldn't go anywhere.

He was buying back those motorcycles, by the way.

He was.

100% right, yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah, but Ryan Wedding,

he turned himself in in California.

It's very interesting in the fact that like,

I was talking to Kate and I go, I don't want to say this.

I'm like, I'm not really voting for,

I'm not like, you know, like, catch me if you can.

And I kind of was until they were like,

and they started reading off his charges.

And this is an Oda.

He's a drug kinpin.

He's had a lot of people killed, weird.

Yeah.

He was arrested at the hearing.

He did not surrender.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

So they did get him.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, he was getting pretty brazen.

Yes.

So, yeah.

So it'll be interesting to see what comes in that case.

I know it's not car related.

It's a loosely car related business collection.

I mean, the bike collection, the Mercedes, yeah.

Yeah, I'll be interested in following that

and seeing what assets come out of that.

That's what I was getting to with that.

He said they confiscated his Olympic medal.

I was like, that's just petty and good for you.

Anything that could be, you know, sold as an asset.

Yeah, exactly.

That'd be a great thing to hang in a car.

What's that?

Just Ryan Wedding's gold medal.

Be fun.

Yeah, it'd be fun if you were the FBI director.

Catch Patel's got enough going on right now.

They nailed like two of the top, the top 10 most wanted in like a week.

So good for them.

Yeah.

I mean, it's starting, we've obviously, if you were in the Pacific Northwest or

anywhere and it wasn't Texas and snowing, we had a lot of cold,

but it's been really nice.

And we got a chance to go out and drive.

Dan and I, we kind of talked about this.

We tried to go find some snow.

Didn't work, you know, damp snowmobile trails.

Apparently that's becoming a big problem in some places that they've

gotten, like Utah, they're getting so little snow that people are driving

onto snowmobile trails and causing a lot of ruts and causing accidents

because the snowmobiles are hitting these big ruts and things like that.

So the boundaries are there for a reason,

even if you can drive over them in your Bronco Raptor.

Yep.

Yeah.

So we've still got a ton of events coming up.

If you're looking for stuff to do this time of year, you should,

you should just be hitting up events.

There's a whole lot going on.

If you're not a member, why are you not a member?

Yeah.

You're on the list, Baymasters.

We've got caffeine and gasoline, local builders showcase.

That looks pretty cool.

Of course, the BBR event, which I think did then already happen.

I don't know why we're talking about it.

I want to talk about the event that happened in Scottsdale.

Oh yeah, the warehouse.

Nicole and Chrissy, yeah, that was absolutely amazing.

I felt good about not going to Arizona this year.

I was kind of a reprieve, but then I missed.

Seeing that, I wish I'd gone to see that.

It looked like an amazing event put on by Avants.

Yeah.

It's some really, really amazing cards there.

I mean, those guys pulled in.

Nicole did a wonderful job pulling it.

I'm sure everybody's involved.

All the leaders are involved with it.

I know Chrissy was.

I know Adam was down there.

I'm sure most of them were.

So it was incredible.

If you haven't seen that, go back and look at our stories.

Look at our posts.

It was a really cool event.

Yeah, Daniel Piker has really turned the Instagram around.

Yeah.

So if you haven't seen a bunch of the Avants post lately,

there's more stories, not just random car pictures,

but there's really good storytelling that they've curated on there.

We agree.

He should take more photos of us, but he does not agree with that.

That's true.

I don't think anybody else does either, but we try.

We do.

Me and the mouse in my pocket.

Okay, here's another topic that I'm a little surprised at,

considering how well they sell.

Okay.

But apparently they don't sell as well as I thought they did.

Did you hear Tesla killed the Model S and the Model X this year?

No.

Yeah.

How?

What?

Elon says they're going to focus,

they're going to redo two of the factories to focus on making the new

Optimus robots, which seems really aggressive and in a really weird niche market.

So it's surprising, but Tesla sales have dropped through the floor.

They're down like almost 50%.

EV sales in general.

So everybody likes to say Tesla,

but EV sales in general have dropped about 50%.

Yeah.

So they're pivoting, huh?

They're pivoting.

So they'll be X, the S and the X are the X and the,

obviously they're not going to be building the Cybertruck anymore.

I don't know if they are or not, which is crazy to be buying them.

Yeah.

I don't know who would.

Yeah.

But I mean, somebody gave me the money I'd buy one, just to say I owned one.

So because there's the what?

There's the S, there's the X and the Y and you said they're canceling the

S and the three and the three.

Okay.

They're killing the model S and the model X.

Okay.

So you're going to have the Y and the and the three.

I guess.

I mean, the three I get, that's a great little commuter car.

If you know, I mean, obviously there are people out there screaming at the radio because,

you know, the, all the stickers have, I bought this before Elon, whatever.

I'm, but not political.

That's not the point.

But well, I think that is a point that people are not buying it because

Oh yeah.

They're political views.

Right.

You know, to each their own.

True.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

I mean, obviously we talked about it with, with Ford cutting on getting rid of the lightning.

It's not just Tesla.

It's just Tesla's making the news.

Also, if you've seen one of those robots, it's kind of ominous.

Right.

Looking at the one in Bell Square and I was like, okay, this is, this says Skynet all over it.

So yeah, I was just surprised to see the S, I guess, and the, I guess both of those.

I would have thought, I mean, I guess.

Because the S is the big sedan, right?

Yeah.

The full size, the model S plaid as we always talk about,

I was basically, you know, really great facet in and then the X being sort of a weird cross

between an SUV and a not high roofline.

That's the biggest SUV, right?

Yeah.

So they have the smaller SUV now in the smaller car.

Yeah.

They're going to build robots.

SUV-ish.

And then the robots will drive the cars.

Got it.

Right.

And then you have Minority Report just waiting to happen.

I think Terminator.

Minority Report turns into Terminator.

That could be.

Yeah.

Everybody knows that.

No, Minority Report starts with really good AI, trying to predict crime,

and then it turns into the Terminator.

So it's two different times.

She's there trying to, is that again with that new Chris Pratt movie,

AI judges and stuff like that?

Oh, geez.

Yeah.

The car show with all the movie information that you're looking for.

Yeah.

There are just a few random clips I'm pulling out this week.

Doug DeMarone did cars and bids discuss the Honda Prelude.

Okay.

He came with the exact same conclusion we did.

Imagine that.

Yeah.

So he stole our idea.

He stole our idea.

I blame Doug.

Okay.

Stop stealing our ideas, Doug.

Gee, Doug, why are you trying to ride on our coattails

with your millions of followers and your successful bid platform?

And yeah.

Yeah.

You probably never heard the show before in your life.

But it was interesting to see somebody come to,

well, it was interesting to see Doug,

just being someone like you said with a digital art platform,

basically come to the exact same conclusion.

It's a decent looking car, but yeah.

Well, I mean, it's overpriced.

A lot of people said that in the comments too.

They came out and said that.

So it doesn't surprise me.

I mean, the car market is in limbo right now.

I mean, you're looking at the electric cars going away.

Where are we going to go?

What do people want?

Will we start seeing some of these new type K cars

coming into the United States, the small stuff?

My hopes are still high for Scout.

I know you don't like it because of what they did with the name,

but the idea of what they're doing, I do like.

Of the range extender the generator built on.

So you basically are adding fuel just like a car,

but it's power.

It's just charging the motors.

So that's giving you 500 plus miles of range.

And a solid rear axle with a locker front and rear, true lockers.

So there's a lot of electric motors.

Yeah. How do you have a lock?

So it's not really a locker.

It's just turning on both motors.

Yes. All at once though.

Okay.

So it's, but it's functioning as a full locker.

I see.

It's not being throttled by the computer.

It's just like turning as you turn.

Okay.

Yeah. So it's the rear.

Yes. A true locker.

The front acting as an actual locker.

So in its electric way, but exactly as you said,

both motors turning on at the exact same time,

putting out the exact same amount of power.

So like functioning as a true locked system.

And that is really good as we have experienced in Moab,

where you can finally take a vehicle like that

because you'll have the range and you just keep adding fuel to it.

So you're not going to sit there and just charge.

You can, which is great because you can do,

you could go fill it up with fuel in your generator,

then goes to the charger and be well in your way.

A lot faster.

I'm just saying if they wanted to pivot a little bit,

make a huge two-door scout that had a giant Ford V8 in the front of it,

I would be fine with that.

Or a supercharged 5-0 Coyote.

That's even better.

That's the vehicle we all want.

Yes.

That would be the Bronco Raptor R.

That, you know, there's a lot of talk about that.

And even the stupid people out there talking

about a Ranger Raptor R, which we don't need.

Somebody already did it.

Raptor are all the things.

Somebody already put the Coyote in the Ranger Raptor

and it was stupid fast.

What do you think, okay, outside of Scout,

is there a car that's missed the mark?

The Prelude is what brings this to mind.

Because if you just put a better engine in the Prelude,

it could be front-wheel drive

because the Prelude always has been front-wheel drive.

If they just put a Civic SIR engine in it,

didn't make it hybrid and gave it a manual,

it would probably be a really great car.

It'd probably be $50,000,

but at least then it would justify the price tag.

Because it would be basically a new Integra Type R

and it's, you know, in a heavier Prelude chassis.

But that's fine.

The Prelude's always been heavier than the Integra.

It's the grand touring sport front-wheel drive.

I feel like BMW and Mercedes are missing the mark

continually on all their cars.

Yeah, the M2 is the only appealing BMW to me.

M2, like M3, M4, fine.

But like everything else that BMW is doing

and Mercedes as well, I can combine that.

Mercedes is really off the mark.

I'm going to say this.

If people weren't buying their vans

and turning them into overland vehicles,

I don't know how Mercedes would be doing.

I'm happy with Audi, obviously, I think.

But they're still missing the mark on some of their stuff.

I just don't know.

I think so many of these car companies were being

redictating what cars they were coming out

by the regulations that the government

and said state or country or village,

whatever was was was throwing down.

A lot of those things have now gone away

or people have gone, we can't do that.

We need to have this normal stuff.

But I just, I'm not seeing,

like when you think about a sexy car,

and I'm taking BMW, that E30 M3

is one of the most beautiful cars on the road.

And the car was built around that engine.

It was fast for its time.

It served a purpose.

And now there's just so much technology.

And we talked about that too.

Going back to real buttons, tactile buttons

and having that.

It was funny because our good friend Steve Theodore

from Rumble Auto had a car.

And it was like an 80 to six, it wasn't an M6,

but it had like the old school click buttons

and the calculator that BMW,

if you know old school 80s BMWs, they had calculators.

Well, they were the mileage calculators.

But stuff like that, those cars were built to be driven.

And I feel like so many of these cars,

and we need those are the commuter cars.

But there's not a lot of fun cars out there.

Now obviously Chevy's with the Corvette

and we might get a Viper again.

I might get a manual Corvette.

If that rumor is true, that's going to be pretty amazing.

Chevy's really killing it as far as the Corvettes.

Ford's killing it pretty much across the board.

If you're not a Ford fan, I understand.

Yeah, but styling and brand aside,

what they've got on paper is what drivers want.

You can still get a manual Mustang with a ton of horsepower.

They listened.

Yeah, you can.

New Dark Horse SC is good looking and stupid, fast.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm not really a Mustang person,

but I'm really tempted to be a Mustang person

because that is a lot of car.

And for the money, it's still a great deal.

It fills that muscle car void, but it's not really anymore.

And things attract a weapon.

Yeah.

Like those things are great on the track.

It's not just a straight line monster anymore.

But yeah, I mean, like I said, you can, you know,

the Mexican GT-R, as he said.

100%.

I would do that in a Dodge.

I would do that in a Ford.

Well, John Clevin did it, remember?

Yeah.

Yeah, from Metropolitan S-Tec.

You know, S-Tec USA John Clevin.

He's got an F-150 Supercharged.

HKP Customs did the install for him, actually.

It's a really subtle color, too.

I think it's like red-orange.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that ass.

Like, there's just something.

Like, if you're our age and a little bit older,

like that red lightning that was in Fast and the Furious,

and I'm talking original Fast and the Furious,

like that was such a dream car

because that truck was out

and then Dodge came out with the SRT-10

that had the Viper engine.

And it was just a short-bed truck that was meant to go fast.

Yeah.

Yeah, in a very scary way.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I certainly think there was a, the topic came up

because people, Doug was saying, actually,

as I saw the video they posted on the prelude,

he posted another video about how nobody actually

wants a 70 Series.

Everybody says they want a 70 Series.

And then all the comments were people saying,

no, it's the simplicity we want.

Yeah.

It's, you can buy a 70 Series Toyota

locked with no options for about 30 grand.

It's going to be a diesel.

It's going to have a manual transmission.

It's going to have a double low crawl transfer case.

It's going to be a solid front axle.

It's going to drive like crap.

It's going to have,

because it's going to have a solid front axle

like a Grenadier.

It's going to have manual crank windows,

but it'll have AC, no screen.

Say it slower, Dan.

Say it slower.

Right.

I'm just like, no, dude.

You're missing the point.

Like that's something you buy and just drive.

That's a vehicle you buy and drive

for like generations.

Absolutely.

That's why people want them.

It's not that they're going to sell a lot of them.

It's that we want the option to buy it

so that if I'm just like, I just want a truck

that's going to take me everywhere,

that'll do it.

And it's not, they're like, well, you got the,

you know, you've got the new forerunner,

which is great.

You've got the new Land Cruiser here,

which is a throwback.

You've got the GX550.

Like, yeah, but that's got power everything hybrid.

But that being said,

I think the Land Cruiser in Japan

has rolled down windows.

Like they didn't give it here though.

We didn't get that here.

Yeah.

You can't buy the stripped down version of anything here.

That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

And that's what we want is I want the non-hybrid diesel manual.

Just give me AC and a single-din stereo

that I can click MP3.

Flatbed that they have in Australia.

Yeah.

So I can put an aluminum bed on it or whatever.

Yeah.

And then, and just give me a single-din stereo

that I can swap out, that I can play and,

you know, connect via MP3 and just have my phone.

I'll take a day to screw it.

Yeah, I don't need anything.

I just need a phone out for my phone

for the times I need any electronics.

They're all on my phone.

Give me one of those.

I'll get one of those old-school tape mounts

that goes in with the wire that comes out.

And I will plug it into a Sony Walkman CD player.

So here's the question.

This is what, I came back to this

because I remember there was the transition time

that was actually really good.

When I had my C606, I put a stereo in it.

And the only thing it had was Bluetooth audio.

It had a screen and it had a DVD thing.

I didn't care about it.

All I wanted was something that did MP3.

That was it.

I didn't want carplay.

I didn't want anything else.

And all I had was my phone mount.

On my dash.

And that was enough.

Yeah.

And I loved that car had the perfect amount of options for me.

And I go back to it, even with cars like the R8 next to me

or my C706, it was really kind of poor implementation.

You always had a slow,

like this goes back to the whole thing of having,

you had a slow infotainment system to deal with.

It worked fine in the C7,

but there was always little bugs

with any company in their infotainment.

Not just Chevy.

Chevy Ford, Aston Martin, everybody.

My favorite thing about the C7

infotainment system was when the screen went down

and you could have that pouch behind there.

Yeah.

That was, yeah.

Yeah.

You can put things in there.

Yeah.

Like, can we?

You can put your weed in there.

Yeah.

That's a Saturday Night Live schedule.

Yep.

Um, yeah.

And so I was wondering,

do you think that would sell if we went back to that?

If the, do you think the money output,

if you said you could have a locked, loaded four-seater,

SUV, diesel, no hybrid, would people,

you think people would actually buy it?

I mean, I feel like it's an easy concept to prove

or disprove in the fact that just put,

put that on the website.

See if people option it out.

Like, I think it would.

I think there's a lot of us that,

that want to take the technology out of the cars.

I like being able to hit a button and it locks,

but there is some,

if you've never gotten out of a vehicle

and locked your hubs, like.

Yeah.

There's just, the mechanicalism just was wonderful.

Yeah, I do.

I think there's enough people out there.

Obviously, is there enough out there to,

because they're putting less into the car,

which means that the car should cost them less.

Even if they gave us all the simplicity

and charges the same price

and they are, they're making money

and we know it,

you're, you're providing that to the consumer.

I think what I really want

is the simplified drivetrain

and the simplified infotainment.

I still really love power windows,

power door locks and heated seat.

I don't care if it's power seat at all.

This one, once I'm set,

I don't really care.

It's actually quick to move a manual seat.

But they do, I do like those features.

Power windows, power door locks and AC.

And the heated seats.

I don't use half the crap in my infotainments.

I don't use any of it.

It, it, where I use it is when,

when I click the off road buttons,

it brings up stuff.

That's fine.

But my point is,

Those could be switches.

I don't, yeah, they could be switches.

But my point is,

it shows me on the screen

that it's locked kind of thing.

But I mean, yeah.

So you can just be an idiot.

Like I'm saying,

I don't even necessarily need Bluetooth.

As long as I have the,

well, I guess my phone doesn't have a stereo jack.

And you can use USB-C to it.

Okay, I guess you could.

But that's what I mean.

All I would need is a single bin.

And that would just be

with dolphins from Pioneer.

With dolphins, right?

If you know, you know.

Yeah. If you know, you know.

I'll even take a detachable face

with a cool cover that you have.

Bring back stereo dolphins.

Everybody knows stereo dolphins.

Yeah.

That's going to be the title of this episode.

I would love to have heard that conversation.

Like, we're going to come out with a new Pioneer,

single din,

removal face.

We're going to have this

and dolphins are going to swim across it.

Cool.

What else?

That's it.

Just dolphins.

I remember when I,

when I was in Japan in 99,

being blown away by the stereos,

because they had, you know,

Japan,

very technology forward to society.

They,

the options to have stereos in your car,

not just loud.

Like, they weren't about loud.

They, I mean, to a point,

they weren't like the U.S. loud,

but they were all about having the technology in there.

And it was crazy to see all the animations

and things like that.

Yeah, but you look back on,

like, some of the classic Porsche's BMWs,

they had like the single din Alpine,

some of the high end Alpines,

those were,

and they sounded great.

Don't get me wrong,

the days of when the screen would come out

and fold up,

and then it would hit your,

your climate control buttons,

then go back in.

Yeah.

So, if you know, you know.

Yeah.

So.

Oh, it's funny.

I think simplicity,

I think this world could use some simplicity.

I, I, I do.

Well, I just think what we need is,

I think the demand is there for long-term durability.

Yeah.

I think it's coming back a little bit.

And I don't think it's just our generation.

I think generations are realizing

that it really sucks

not to have anything you can hold on to.

Yeah.

Everything just breaks.

And it's, it's, you know,

obsolescence by design.

And which is a very real thing

that is not a conspiracy theory at all.

They have,

all your appliances are made cheaper

so that they break

and don't last as long

so you replace them.

That's why your refrigerator

has a freaking web connection.

That's why your phone stops working

when the new one comes out.

Yeah.

And it intentionally slows down.

Yeah.

Things like that.

They bloat apps.

I got my tinfoil hat on.

Yeah.

But I believe it.

Yeah.

Planned obsolescence is a real thing.

And it's especially painful with cars though.

That's why you get things like

plastic oil drain plugs

and plastic,

you know,

oil pans and parts that,

that, you know,

plastic water pump impellers,

things like that,

that eventually,

you know,

even the fluids,

they are bathed in

or what eat them.

That is not a good design.

Ironic.

Right.

And so I think that

there's a huge demand for that.

I was,

I've been,

of course,

I've been following

Daniel with Golden Rovers

and he's been going

through his engine series.

Still, he's,

every week he puts out a video

about the process of

pulling the engine,

putting in the new one.

And he said something that

made me think he's like,

it's a shame

that people will throw away

such a nice vehicle

because the engine goes bad

when it's really not

that hard of a swap.

It is like,

if you watch the video series,

everything he has done

to make it easy

is amazing.

So ever since we blew up,

yeah, cruiser,

what,

2019, something like that.

Yeah.

But like the,

the details he goes through

about the wiring harness,

picking the right starter

so that it can be clocked

in the right way,

picking the right plug wires,

the right headers,

like everything he,

he builds,

like, I wish I had the skill for.

Let's put it that way.

Yeah.

He built,

exactly I wanted to say it.

He builds like,

I wish I had the skill for it

because he thinks of things

I don't.

And then I'm like,

oh, yes,

that's a very logical way

to do that.

And it makes perfect sense

for longevity.

And so I love seeing that

because it's keeping cars

on the road.

We were talking about this

in the last episode about

rebuilt titles

and salvaged titles.

It's keeping cars on the road

because this is a perfect example.

You get a car like that,

any Range Rover

that's, you know,

60 days old

that's going to break down

and never drive again

or be in the shop

for the rest of its life.

But if you rip the

really shitty engine out of it

and you throw in a really

bulletproof LS,

that's super serviceable

and has been

because it's based on the same

design for the last

80 years,

literally.

It's virtually the same mention.

There's a reason for that.

Yeah.

They got it right the first

time and they just kept

making it a little better

incrementally over time,

but it still uses push rods

and it's still a single low

cam and just a basic V8.

And it works really well,

but it also gets double the

mileage is double the horsepower

and the torque

is super simple to work on.

Everything is serviceable.

You're napping a parking lot.

Simplicity.

Yeah.

And so it got me thinking,

it's like, man, this is,

it's really

de complex.

And what's the word

if it's de complexify an engine?

That's not a word.

I just made that up.

It makes sense though.

Yeah.

So I feel it's funny.

I feel like the word simplify

is overly simplistic

of what he's doing.

I think but simple

and he's run into all those things

and he knows all those things

because he's run into those problems.

He's put in the wrong starter

and realized what you need

to make it work

and make it clock right.

He's put in the wrong plugs.

Things he's,

he's a tinkerer.

Always has been.

And that's what makes.

Yeah.

That's what makes the kit so good.

So yeah, it's funny

because I don't really

have an interest to.

I would do the

Land Cruiser with the LS swap

because and that's just

my preference,

the solid axle front,

solid axle rear.

It's not because the

the Land Cruiser I actually

think is more reliable.

It is for the record.

It's a lot more

put in the range over.

But I think

that's that's where I want to go

with it.

I want to get rid of the stuff

and keep it simple.

And that's

it keeps you drawing me back

to that 80 series.

Joe Rogan had one built by

keep it simple stupid.

Yeah, keep it simple stupid

by icon four wheel drive.

He had one of the first ones

that was one of the

just one of the cleanest.

He has all the best cars.

Yeah, he does.

And one of the cleanest

LS swap Land Cruisers.

And I love it because the car

looks timelessly

just like a Land Cruiser.

It looks and then if you get

inside and you go through all

all the things that icon did

and granted this is a 200 plus

thousand dollar

80 series Land Cruiser.

This is this is no screw

unturned not painted.

He goes through it.

There's a really good

it's an old video now

but you go through it

the design of the vehicle

and they go through everything

they fixed and everything

they touched up and you're like

that's perfect.

It's perfect because

it's durable.

It's perfect because

it's not overdone.

That's it's so expensive

because they didn't

overdo anything.

They just made everything

bulletproof.

Made reliable.

So that you didn't have

like you said things.

Everything is throw away now

because they want you

to buy the next thing.

Yeah.

So capitalism man.

Yeah.

Or whatever.

Yeah.

All right.

We're going to get off

our apple boxes now.

We're not won't be as tall

but so yeah.

What it's a questions

for the audience.

Yeah.

What vehicle is has needs

one change

and it's perfect.

Okay.

Or one it's what vehicle

is one change away.

We're like they just

didn't do this thing

right.

And it's obvious

they didn't do right.

Everybody knows it was

obvious.

The prelude being

they picked the wrong

engine and drivetrain

for what could have been

a great car.

And the wrong price point.

Right.

But I mean like I said

you know if you put a

the Civic SIR engine

in there in a manual

he would be like

greatest thing Honda's

put out in you know

since the last NSX.

Great.

Yeah.

It would people would be

every magazine

would be praising it

ever.

People would be anxious

to buy it

even if it was a little

overpriced

who would be like

yeah but it's

everything I want.

It's it's my

take or type R

of this generation.

Yeah.

It's even though it's

not it'd be heavier

but at the same time

people would be thinking

it was really cool.

Nissan finally got it

right.

The new the new Nismo Z

gets the manual now

which is very cool.

So shout out to

Nissan for doing

something right for the

first three 70

or whatever it is now

the 400 it's a 400 now.

Okay.

Yeah.

Congratulations Nissan

for doing something

right for the first

time since the GTR.

They can stay around.

Yeah.

Hope they stick around.

Yeah.

What are the vehicles

out there like that?

I don't know.

That's that's the question

that's the question

for the audience.

All right.

Well we'll leave it at that.

For this episode

of the advanced podcast

as always I'm Nick

and I'm Dan

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