C.R.E.A.M. #54 - The Best Buying Experience, S2000 Mods And The Full Tank Curse

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Hello, and welcome back to the CREAM podcast, the Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast.

Pongcast?

Number 54, I am Will.

To my right is Edwin and behind the camera, we have Benjamin.

Hello.

Nice.

Now, at the beginning of every single podcast, we ask ourselves, do cars rule or ruin everything

around us in the last week?

Edwin, would you like to kick us off?

I think it's been fine.

No, it hasn't actually because of the Evo.

It's still stuck on the left.

I put the Evo on the left to do just a brief bit of work and then parts broke.

Things did not fix themselves and now I'm waiting on parts.

Also, I've got a cold.

You'll have to excuse me on this one.

But so it's a ruin for now, but by proxy of Ben's rule, I'm happy.

I can't make sense.

Maybe Ben, over to you.

Why is it?

Well, what is it?

It's a huge rule because the S2000, it's not done.

No, but for the video, it's done.

And for the initial, the initial build is done.

The audience would have seen it.

Yes.

By the time it's come out.

So we can put a photo on the screen here.

Of your S2000?

Yes, my S2000 looking wonderful.

Edwin, thank you.

It's not just me as well as you.

For both of you, we've just got accents, both of you for helping with the build,

but for dialing the fitment all morning.

That's all right.

There's more to come on that and also we'll fix the fitment.

Thank you both for your help making it look good because it looks really nice.

I mean, there was a one read.

I can't remember if this was this one.

Actually, this is since the last podcast, your little discovery in your arches.

More well.

Yeah, we had the arches rolled, which if you don't know what that means,

I can't explain very easily.

There is a little maybe your arches have they don't just end.

They have a 90 degree lip that goes in towards the tire, which is for manufacturing.

And they put the spot welds for two because basically they have two skins inside.

You have the outside skin, the one that you paint and then inside structure of the car.

They put them together.

They have a lip.

You don't want that if you're running like angry fitment.

So you roll the lip in, but there is a side side effect.

If you have some rust in your arches, which we found out Ben did, it gets tough.

It's not that much rust.

It just means there are a few little points where the it doesn't bend inwards.

It's more not snappy.

If you're into stance, you know, you know, as bacon fenders,

Ben's got a little bit of bacon, but they need doing anyway.

I knew that.

So it's fine for now and they will get done professionally, but it looks so good.

Incredulous. It does.

It does look very good.

I was behind you guys.

You guys went out to film the last bit of the video.

I was driving behind in Will's new car and I turned around a junction

and I could see the full side profile of the car and it looks lovely, simply wonderful.

It does look very pleasant.

And my first, well, we're in Mexico.

I'm out of my first skid.

That looks good.

Had to really squeeze that one out of you, though.

Brett, I also picture the scene.

We're in, we are in a Honda S2000, a limited slip differential fitted as standard.

Brett will drive a manual gearbox and a young boy behind the wheel.

Rain tires on that.

We've got some semi-slick track tires on and we have got slippery, greasy, leafy roads to slip up.

Come up to a little junction and Ben wasn't going to.

That's why I said, come on, just a small one.

So we finished doing like a final drive section and it's great to subscribe.

And then I cut the camera and then Will goes, we have it on audio.

He immediately goes, right, there's a junction here.

And I was like, nah, in Mexico.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

So we cut the camera, flew to Mexico.

That was the one that was raining like crazy.

And yeah.

Then we'll sit out of the junction, just give him a little bit of extra.

And yeah.

And now from behind look great.

I'm a little slow.

Will hasn't ever seen me do before.

And I, he was a bit nervous.

He went, go on, then I went for it and he didn't think I was going to do it.

I knew that for a fact that as I did it, he went and like the arse came out a little

bit for what I think he expected.

He went, oh, and then, and then yeah.

It was a bit worrying because then I thought either your confidence will grow

and the next you go like this and we're going to be facing Edwin soon.

But you, you learned your lesson after that.

So yeah.

Rule for Benjamin, will you?

I'm going to go with the rule as well.

I mean, post burglary concerns.

Yeah.

And the glado is currently way actually getting a PPF done very kindly by the guys

at Topaz.

I went to Topaz every week and I love my glado.

And I think it's amazing.

I went in there and I thought I, I am out of place.

Yeah.

There was another glado there.

Funny enough, but those of you that don't know what sort of clientele does just

hope has well for so Thomas who may be listening to this horse power hunters

sort of set this, this thing up, gave me a little tour and I've walked in and there

was a couple of like there was a, a year or so.

And in the corner, there was a, a, a Koenigsegg 11 just being PPF.

Oh, okay.

And then there was the, an SLR roadster, MSO, HDK, it's a huge wing, like a massive

wing, ridiculous body kit, a load of custom bits on the interior in ridiculous, like

baby blue color.

I thought, all right, okay.

I'm not sure I'm meant to be here.

I can't remember if it was, it was either the 250 GTO or the McLaren F1.

One was paint match to the other.

I think it was the F1 and that was done by Topaz.

That's how you, that's how you know.

You'd never expect it kind of where it is looking industrial state, but I went in,

I was like, and again, this is a place I've heard about a million times, but

never been there or seen it.

So having my car down there is very, very cool.

And then last Friday, we went to, Edwin and I went to Glasgow, hence the

accent you're about to hear very soon to collect my possible new daily, possible

not new daily, a CL500 with an AMG pack.

I was just a delight.

It was really nice.

And well, do we talk about now the nicest human on earth?

Yeah, listen, we've read it down to talk about it.

Might as well talk about it now.

Divided.

So won the car on Carwell, which we've done many, many times on other cars.

And going for a very good deal, it was £5,000, which is easily three or

£4,000 cheaper than the most, the cheapest advertised ones.

Now, the guy I bought it from, I had no idea who I was buying it from.

Absolutely no idea.

Called him thinking, this is a CL owner.

I could be dealing with a total nobber.

Yeah.

The softest spoken Scottish man answered the phone.

And he said, I'll be honest.

Well, I bought the car when it was brand new for 101,000.

But I'm a little bit disappointed to lose it for a five.

But I've had my fun with it.

And he kept going on, he kept saying about, you know, how he bought the car,

blah, blah, blah.

And then he said, you know, there's a problem with the amplifier.

So that's why I've checked in my private plate.

My private plate is valued at around £600 and the amplifier is about £300.

And I thought, that should cover the cost.

And I was like, you're being far too nice here.

Yeah. Your car's sold for five grand.

It's a cheap CL.

But anyway, we flew up there.

It was a seven, eight hour drive to get up there.

So we thought, let's fly, it takes 40 minutes.

And he picked us up from the airport.

Again, red flag number one.

For someone to go, I live, he literally got it in the minute.

I was 30 minutes away, so I'm not going to make you get a taxi.

Sorry, he refused.

I was messaging him.

I said, look, I'm more than happy to get a taxi.

We can do that. It's fine.

He's like, no, no, I will pick you up from the airport.

It wasn't in the CL. It was in his new car.

What was that?

A Jaguar diesel.

Which we'll get on to, again, another point of how nice yours.

There was unfortunately some, one of his neighbors had passed away

and their kids had to deal with the estate.

So he said to them, they had a, it's a Jag XE 2.2 XE.

And he said to them, go and get it valued.

And just let me know whatever they valued us.

And they came back and said, yeah, the car was like valued at eight.

So he went, so I gave him 10.

What?

So you gave him overs, just, just, you know, to be nice, to, to move it through.

So then, so we're in the car with him after he's picked us up from the airport, very, very kindly.

You know, you leave an airport and you got to pay the charge for a pickup,

which is normally some exorbitant fee for the time you're there.

Six pounds it was for Glasgow.

We're like, no, no, we'll pay for that.

He's like, no, no, no, no, I've got it straight up refused to let us pay for it.

Right.

Let's go from there.

Driving along and then stop.

So it's like, do you want to get a coffee for us?

We can stop for a coffee and then we can go and look at the car, go out for a spin in it.

And then you can like that.

We're all good.

He's like, okay, we'll make you a coffee afterwards.

I was like, and then we'll go around about that five minutes from his house.

And he goes, oh, just so you know, well, I filled the tank for you as well.

I know you've got a long journey home.

So I thought I'll fill it up for you.

That should make it back.

It was, I'll let you say, I was shocked.

I was like, you didn't have to do that.

It was at that point that I was like, nah, something's wrong.

We're getting smug.

We're getting abducted and smuggled somewhere.

I'm being roofied or something.

Something's going to happen.

Something, I just thought there is a deep rooted issue that there is layers and layers

of niceness being added here.

Kind of sad in a way as well.

Of course.

Like because I saw people selling dodgy cars at you because you immediately see him doing

nicely and go, oh no, you know, it's too good to be true.

The short answer is he's Scottish.

Therefore he's nice.

I'm actually glad it was us who bought it.

There was, I was the highest bidder.

There were eight other bids on that car and they were all below five grand.

So had I not bid, I have no idea what their beds were.

They could have been two grand.

There could have been four, nine, nine, nine.

I've got no idea.

So had it been like a dealer or a trader, I'm not saying they're all like this,

but someone who would have gone there and potentially knocked him down a little bit more

by after doing all that, he, before we got there, he, I think the day before he took the car

and got the, got a tire report made by a tire shop with all of the treads and all the pressures.

He had it cleaned, brimmed it, brimmed it to the absolute top, which is, it's a 90

litre tank.

So we're talking 130 pound tank, basically.

And then we went for a drive.

I, he was, he was, he was, he was showing it off like a proud dad.

I felt really bad.

And then he went, let's go inside.

Went inside the other side, then came the coffees, then came the drinks, then came the biscuits.

He went, please take a biscuit, my wife will kill me if you don't have one.

David, you're the nicest man on earth.

If I had just lost 96,000 pounds on a, on a, on a Mercedes, I know that's over 15 years,

but still the servicing and everything, he's got to be 200 grand deep in that car, almost.

Now can David be our, I don't want to say it, but of the week.

Oh, he is the previous week.

He is absolutely the previous week.

I don't think David's going to be listening, but if anyone knows David,

I think the people of Glasgow or near globe, I don't know where this town was.

He was half an hour away.

He was like Batman.

Yeah.

Robin Hood.

He was, he was doing good deeds for the town.

Robin, Robin, he told us.

Not Batman.

Sorry, not a vigilante in the night.

Shines and a Sadie's logo in the sky.

But he would just, is like people nearby or friends would have a house problem

or some sort of other Estuny guys problem.

I'll get that done for you.

And he would just charge them like the parts or no labor or whatever.

Also, Ben, I don't know if we told you this, this is a quick little don't laugh.

His neighbor came out while we were looking around the car.

We just got to go inside and she went, oh, David.

And he went, turn around.

She went, I've got this for you.

And it was just a tomato.

It was a single a single a tomato, which he received in payment

for picking up one of her parcels.

That was, that was it.

It's a fantastic currency.

I've been just gone a few times and never seen that inflation on the parcel

tomato payment is really gone through the roof.

I quite like it.

But it's genuinely the nicest dude on the earth.

Yeah, just to come back.

Have you come back?

I mean, yeah.

So there's got a couple of small bits, but for the money, you know,

David really did you over.

I'd be, I'd be on the phone with trading standards.

Yeah.

And he also, he sent me a text saying, I'll let me know when you get home.

Oh, that was amazing.

Yeah.

Please do let me know when you get home.

I want to make sure you're safe.

Biscuits, because biscuits.

So they give you biscuits to the road.

Doll bars.

Also, again, Scottish stereotype, but you pulled up with biscuits.

What were they there?

No, don't worry.

What sort of biscuit is Scotland famous for?

Shortbreads.

Yep.

It's a couple of those in there.

Shortbreads or tunics.

Correct.

That was the other one.

And then also adding in there was just some golds.

Maybe you thought, you know, little southern softies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They need a little, something a little bit basic in a wrapper.

Can we talk about the blowing the nose thing or is that not?

Oh, yeah.

No, absolutely we can talk about blowing the nose.

As you can hear, I have a bit of a cold.

So we got back from the test drive and I was like, right,

let me run to the toilet and blow my nose quickly.

I got, you know, don't want to runny nose in David's house.

So we walked in and while they were like doing the paperwork,

I said, excuse me, David, do you mind if I just use your bathroom?

You know, it's just in there.

Don't worry.

Walked in there and I blew my nose.

Me know I will.

What does it sound like on the outside?

It's just like, but deeper.

There was more base to it.

Easily mistakeable as a fart.

Right.

Like a big, not like a.

Yeah.

And it was there was space between what it was.

And for the life of me, I cannot remember what he said,

but he heard it and it was something like,

oh, he's really blowing the pipes out in there.

And the second one happened and he went,

oh, well, but better he does it in there than on the way back.

I could didn't have the heart to tell him that.

I don't think he's blowing your toilet out in there.

The best thing that we were laughing about in the car is the idea that I've gone,

sorry, David, do you mind if I just use your toilet?

And then within three seconds of closing the door,

just absolutely letting them rip and then walking back out five seconds later,

we're going, great.

Thanks so much, David.

I'll take the tonic.

That is a wonderful.

A violation.

He goes, how to do that?

But that's how nice he was.

Not like just a wee joke and then we moved on.

That was it.

He didn't care.

He's like, you know, better than in there.

He's really pushing one out in there.

But he was genuinely, I was scared the whole time because I thought something,

something is wrong where I'm going to get half an hour down the road or just before home,

it's going to blow up because a CL, if you don't know, is scary to own.

I mean, it's, it's a two door S class.

It's a two door S class that has a very complicated and expensive to fix,

hydraulic suspension system, among many other electronic bullshittery

that if they're not maintained properly, they're pretty rough to maintain.

They're just, what do you call it, paper weights at that point?

I am, I've owned it for four days.

I'm 800 pounds deep in the CL 500, which if it goes on, I won't be a CL 500 for very long.

One of them I knew about, the other one I didn't,

which is actually suspension related.

But yeah, that car genuinely, I've heard people say,

like S class is the benchmark for ride quality.

Oh, it is whatever, like whatever.

And then that's basically exactly the same as an S class, my word.

And that's on big AMG wheels as well.

We'll leave the, because there's lots of stuff that you'll see

in a second channel video coming on it soon.

But there's a reason that we, well, yeah, we, the amplifier,

we sat in silence on the way back.

Yes.

It was seven hours of just, just quiet, just smooth, a nice,

smooth, just testing out soft closed doors.

That's very nice.

I'm convinced you're on a trail of self sabotage.

I did get a message from someone on Instagram.

He said, do you hate money?

Yeah.

Cause you just bought a Lamborghini and you thought,

you know what, I need a reliable daily.

Okay, cool.

CL, I'll do it.

In my head, it's the same level of, of, oh,

shit as the Range Rover, but I trust the Range Rover.

True.

Yeah, yeah.

That's because the Range Rover I've done 20,000 miles in.

So I'm like, cool.

I know that it's an outsize, but because that is the unknown.

And I roughly know how much the Range Rover might cost me

at some point if something goes wrong.

Whereas the CL, I'm driving down the road,

driving down the road, expecting bong, ABC fault,

and then to drive down the road slammed on the floor.

And then to ring up Mercedes and they go,

we do have the part, but it is 70 billion pounds.

I did call.

So I had to collect that part yesterday.

So a pulsation damper, whatever the hell that is for the ABC.

It goes into the power steering pump.

And I called up the man and I said,

this is what part I need.

It's not funny.

And I was off the market.

He's like, okay, yeah, there is pulsation damper.

And he went, bloody hell, there's 250 quid.

That's just the small thing that goes in the pump.

Right.

I was like, yeah, he went, Christ.

This is based on rating plans that vary by state.

Coverage options are selected by the customer.

Availability, amount of discounts and savings,

and eligibility vary by state.

God, I'm glad I don't own one of these.

Well, apparently they used to be 50 pounds.

And now they're 250 pounds.

So right now, for everyone listening,

who might have lost track, you've got a French hot hatch.

It doesn't work.

I don't know yet.

No, that is with Beanie Sport currently having

the mysterious break issue sorted.

I do forget that I own that, but hopefully soon.

Lamborghini Gallardo, which is not currently working.

It needs a gearbox, a clutch and other bits.

A Range Rover as a backup, currently is good,

but it's a Range Rover.

And now a CL500, which is fine,

but possibly going to bankrupt you.

You're not sounding a lot like me.

And that's not a great thing to be compared to.

How many cars do you have now?

Hey, don't worry about it.

But how many do you actually have?

I think that's, so that's two rules on the road.

Let's say that.

Yeah, that's two rules on the road.

Look, I'm doing my best.

I'm trying to get rid of them.

Will has four.

I'm trying.

All I'll say is I'm doing my best to get rid of them.

I am going to thin down the herd though.

There is a plan.

One or two will leave by the end of the year.

I sold the Clio.

Oh, yeah.

Two subscribers.

I think so.

Okay.

Well, either they are subscribers or they're stalkers,

because what happened?

I'm going to tell a story.

Of course.

It was fine.

It was actually, two very nice guys came and bought it.

Um, very easy.

I'll ask you a thing about how annoying people are.

These two were very nice, very, very normal people.

They got early access to the podcast before it went out.

They heard it and they went, right.

Yeah, okay.

We're going to be a bit more normal.

Anyway, they came down and looked at the car.

Fine.

And as I was like the classic car questions, you know,

how long you had it, why are you selling it?

They said, I said, I just bought another car,

which perfectly good reason.

They didn't ask what car it was,

so I didn't go any further with the conversation.

Fine.

Stuff moves on.

I'd stay out of the way.

I don't like to be all up in your business.

Stand over there on my phone.

I was actually looking at the X5 wondering.

Notice that my windscreen, um, the seals are going.

Anyway, um, they, the guy goes,

Oh, can I go for test drive?

I was like, yeah, I'll come with you for the test drive.

So he ensures it.

We go out and the car, he goes,

He insured it on the spot.

I was going to say, that's a fact.

I've never seen that.

That is a good, uh, that's a good omen.

And I don't have that good signal where I live.

And he was like, I'm going to get signals

so I can actually do it properly.

And I was like, all right, cool.

Um, drove it, uh, and we just had like a normal conversation.

And he goes, so, uh, what, what car have you bought?

And I was, I went, um, yeah, just an S2000 event.

Oh, so you finally bought one then.

There we go.

And I was like, and there's nothing wrong with you.

Be with, with, with, with you being a podcast listener

or subscriber.

Great.

But I didn't know you were good.

So hang on a second.

Yeah.

I don't know how this was.

It was fine, but it really caught me off guard because I was like,

whoa, because I just thought they were just a couple of guys

that saw on the forum, but I don't know.

Maybe, maybe.

I would assume so if they said that,

otherwise they've been, you know, stalking you.

But do you know what?

Very.

And, and you got the price that you were hoping for in the end.

So it's a, are you, you know what?

Are you sad or are you glad that it's gone?

Uh, I'm more glad than I am sad.

There it is.

I think six months ago I would be very sad, but I drove it back

and I thought, you know what, it's, it's time.

And the upgrade, I'd say is an, it is an upgrade.

You, your glow up has been the max.

It's been absolutely.

It's truly wonderful.

I'm very pleased.

But yes, that's gone now.

So, um, now I only have two cars, which is good.

Lovely.

Because having three was, was quite worrisome.

Was it stressing you?

And you got good money for it as well.

Do you know what?

Actually, I had a, not similar, a creamer interaction

that I wasn't expecting to happen.

I put this in our list.

So I'll mention it now.

Um, it's a scenario I've had a few times.

I went to a nice Italian restaurant.

Not this isn't the scenario.

Um, in, uh, Amersham or some other thing.

And I could hear in the distance.

I tried to order my food.

I could hear in the distance, someone talking about cars.

And I, I hate that.

Because I, I'm not that person who would want to go over and go,

are you talking about cars?

I would like to talk about cars.

I like cars.

Yeah.

Just leave my girlfriend there and go, sorry,

there's someone over there talking about cars.

I'm going to go and talk about cars.

And I could hear Lamborghini, Jaguar, McLaren.

I was like, all right, there's two names I recognize there.

What, what's going on?

And I thought nothing of it.

And then it's a Facebook marketplace piece of shit.

I was like, what's going on?

Who's talking about things over there?

Because there wasn't many people in there.

Going about the meal, blah, blah, blah.

And the waiter, he doesn't say, nothing, not an inkling.

And right at the end, I pay to do the bill, blah, blah.

And he goes, when he goes, oh, there you go.

There you go.

And he goes, by the way, I'm a massive creamer.

Congratulations.

I'm the collardo.

I was like, you know what?

Shout out.

He is professionally done as well.

Yeah, very nice.

I would never, never, he didn't, he didn't let a peep out.

But he was, he did his job.

But then right at the end went, by the way, by the way,

creamer slash subscriber.

But did he catch your guard?

Okay, caught me completely off guard.

But it was the, it was the conversation I heard.

And I don't, I'm not saying it was about me, but I was like, I want,

you're talking about cars in earshot.

Yeah.

I've had it multiple times in, in, in, just like when you're out to eat,

or you're just nearby other people and they start going,

you just hear like, it's who wrote the wheels?

I'm like, let me in.

Let, what, what are you talking about?

Let me, let me talk.

That's what it was a deliberate thing.

It was a watch.

I'm going to, I'm going to really, really say,

look, I'm going to say this.

The moment you say, well, why are you going?

Hello?

Who goes there?

But a distant car, especially if you can hear it really clearly

and you can hear something wrong.

Yeah.

That's, that's, because then you want to go.

That's not really relevant.

Do you know what, do you know what I found it with?

When we went to Monterey, when we're in the airport waiting around for the plane,

I kept hit because, because obviously it's just a, a foot.

Did we go to Monterey?

Have we mentioned that before?

Oh yeah.

We should talk about that somewhere.

We should.

Yeah, yeah.

We should make a couple of videos.

We should go back again next year.

I can.

Maybe get an electric car.

We should get upwards of four views there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It actually might be a struggle.

Quite tough.

When we're in the airport, because obviously it's a very big plane with many people, but

we have been making fun of Ben for being accidental partridge all the week.

And it's a nice one.

Obviously, it's a sad one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is the A380.

A380, it's quite a big plane.

I almost said A380.

I didn't want to talk about a new McFunt.

It was A380.

So it's quite a big plane.

And a lot of people on that plane, any more loves.

Cool, all right, cool.

Yeah, sure.

So a lot of it flew very high in the sky.

Fair.

Many people on that, that aren't going to Monterey, but it's a big flight to San Francisco

at that week.

So there's a chance people will be going.

So you'd be in the airport and you'd just hear somebody talking about it.

And a lot of people there, well, it like in not our industry, but the industry of cars.

So I kept hearing like phone calls, people being like,

yeah, I work for Bugatti.

And I'm like, okay.

No, yeah.

Yeah, we'll bring the sheer on in.

Yeah.

So I was, I was trying to try not to.

Well, I was listening straight up.

It is.

It's just one of the toughest things where it's one, if it's, if someone's talking about

something that's wrong, you want to bite in.

And yeah, or I will, if I can't, if you can't just hear it, you want to clarify what they're

doing.

But sometimes you will hear something, someone talking about something that sounds like it

might be cool.

And you're like, I think, I think we might have talked about it before on the podcast,

but we'll know once had it sitting on the tube in London.

I can't remember what it was, but we will and I.

So it was Will and me next to each other.

And then across from me was my roommate, Jake and his girlfriend, Jess.

And then next to her was some old dude.

And we're talking about something.

I think it was something to do with James Bond and James Bond cars.

And we said something.

It was a Z three.

And there was something I said about the Z three and he went, he just out of nowhere.

That's not actually correct.

And he was incorrect.

He was trying to correct me on something that he was wrong about.

And both of them just bounced on him.

That's not true at all.

It was a 1998 wasn't it?

So they actually did it in that color.

That was correct.

And apparently afterwards we just carried on talking and Jess and Jake.

So they just watched him like crumbling to a fault because he had decided to butt into

someone else's conversation, correct them and then be proved wrong instantly.

Yeah, that's not a plus.

I would, I would, I would perhaps get off the platform and then get back on the platform

when the train wasn't there.

I think that's what I would do.

Wait for the next one.

Yeah, exactly.

Okay.

Okay, the next one, mate.

Ben, you've put in here S 200.

What are those numbers?

I'm the proud owner of S 200.

It's a dollar.

Your second, Mr. President, a second private plate.

Now I would like you to explain when did you purchase S 200 BNM?

On the last podcast.

Right.

Just after our conversation.

After the conversation, but while we were still recording, he bought it, but didn't tell us

and didn't tell the listeners.

I thought it came across a little bit distasteful.

What?

Because it was like, it was a bit like, you know, there's a plate for sale here.

I'm just going to buy it.

Yeah, but we said you'd be thinking about it for weeks.

I had.

Yeah.

But I didn't want it to be, I don't know.

I just felt a little bit, felt a little bit.

What is it?

Can you explain the number plate to the ladies and gentlemen at home?

It doesn't make any sense.

Technically on the car, it's an S 2000.

But what Bellopi would do on, on, on S 2000 is they buy.

We did explain this last podcast, but the letters and numbers.

Yeah.

S 200.

And then they'll get three letters on the end.

It'll start with an O and then be two more letters.

So in my case, I might get S 200 OBR for BR, my name.

But then you illegally space it.

You'd know.

I wouldn't, but some people do where it says S 2000 then two numbers.

So I was looking for something of that sort just for science.

And I found, I was like, oh, there's S 200.

Is there a S 200 Ben?

Because it'd be quite funny.

I couldn't find that.

I found S 200 BNN, which is Ben.

Close.

So I now have S 200 BNN, which is funny.

Gabs, who does the partnership stuff here for all the channels,

he used to have an S 2000 because it was S 200, TSJ.

Yeah.

Which is Ben.

You get one guess for what TSJ is.

It is a difficult one.

Yeah.

But especially more so.

I get some context.

To the, uh, last year's junior.

Yes.

And the, the S 2000 was used famously in Fast and Furious.

The first one, Johnny Tran.

Tail, slippy.

Jun, junior.

I did give you the last one.

What?

Junior is the last one.

Oh.

Tail, slippy junior.

Yes.

No, it's too soon, junior.

Because, you know, he had, you know, at least under grand.

Under the hood of that thing.

Uh, don't get near him.

Meanwhile, I think, meanwhile,

Jesse doesn't even have brake calipers.

I think F, F 20 C's are like, are like 5.

That's why I didn't stop.

It carried on driving.

He's going to go get it washed for you, don't worry.

It's got 100 grand on the hood.

100 grand.

But they're like, they're like 5 grand.

It sounded pretty in A as well.

That means it makes upwards of 120 pound for a torque.

I don't know.

For my skid.

But yeah, you've got another private plate.

So, you know, rich million, yeah.

Yeah.

Rich million.

Meanwhile, V10.

Yeah.

What have we got?

Anecdotes and news wise.

Right, Ben's putting a lot.

Is a, your news is back.

Oh, give it a go.

Ben's BBC call.

Give yourselves a little bit of anecdotes before me.

I don't want to hog.

We've been on loads of anecdotes.

We've been so much talking.

Go on, then give me a anecdote.

Anecdotes.

We've just been doing factory RTR from New Benjamin.

Yes.

So RTR, the Ford tuning.

What does that stand for?

Ready to rock.

Very good.

Which is quite cool.

They are going to be making,

Ford is going to be making them from factory.

Yes.

I'm going to pull the article up, not to be inaccurate.

Okay.

Now, what I'm seeing here.

Are you on it?

Is most badass turbocharged Mustang?

Whoa.

Are we, is this an EcoBoost or a V6?

Oh, that's tough.

Oh, Ben is looking.

At the first question.

When I put these links in it, so we can all discuss.

So it's good if we all read them.

Now, I'm in this of like.

I like it.

It's like, it's like one of those political discussion things

where it's Ben, Ben has brought up a topic and then we've gone,

right, give me the exact minutiae about this.

You don't know this, idiot.

What do you do?

Here we go.

Ben's reading the article.

Oh, that's a sign.

That was a big old sign.

I just wish we could all be a team here.

Okay.

Ben, what do you want to talk about the RTR about?

I just thought was cool.

They're building it from factory.

Sorry.

I just thought it was cool.

So usually RTR is aftermarket, correct?

Right.

So like, as like what AMG perhaps used to be.

Yes.

Now AMG are they're in house.

They're the boys.

How could RTR be the same?

Well, yeah, that is possibly.

You can now, I believe, well, you could even until the beginning,

I want to say of the S550 Mustang,

buy RTR parts through dealers.

They were like dealer allocated parts.

But now I believe they are literally working with Ford

because they did.

There's one of the RTR ones.

It was on a Cletus video that they have a like a factory installed

handbrake, like a hydro handbrake,

but it works through the whole system

so you can engage and disengage it.

That's cool.

They're messing around.

I have info.

Ford racing, when it was Ford racer,

what the area still Ford racing,

but when they were doing parts,

the mark three focus came out.

They put a hydro handbrake in that.

I've never seen one.

That's cool.

But it was a hydro handbrake factory fit

that would lock the rear wheels.

I have information.

I've refreshed my brain.

Please.

So it's the first time they've sold a car for Ford ever.

And we drove the Model T.

Ford will now sell.

The first Mustang ever.

Ford will now sell cars.

So they're going to make,

it has obviously OEM warranty.

It's basically part of Ford,

but essentially it's for the EcoBoost version of it.

And it has an anti-lag system.

You know, it is a 2.3, so it's not of the eight.

There's got dark horse bits in it

for like suspension and stuff.

Oh, that's cool.

It will be good, but it will not be,

he's not him.

I saw him.

The anti-lag thing interests me,

but I've heard anti-lag before from manufacturers.

And it's never.

Like Hyundai and it's never,

it's never the thing you're expecting

because it would just be destroying turbochargers.

They're not going to give you proper anti-lag

and a warranty.

No, it's okay.

Yeah.

And also RTR, I feel like a name like ready to rock.

You got something big under the hood there.

That's a VA motor.

Meanwhile.

Meanwhile, the Ford Focus engine.

I like Shelby.

I think that's just cool.

Cool man.

Yeah, me too.

RTR doesn't, I don't know.

It feels a bit new for me.

Yeah, but it does exactly,

but I think that's why they're doing it

because Shelby is old man.

It's not because they make cool stuff,

but there is.

RTR feels young.

It's hip.

You know, kids are doing.

I really like the RTR triangles

that they have in the grille.

Those are cool.

That is a really cool little design element.

Those guys.

I've eaten takes, they must be sure.

I think so, yeah.

That's nice.

Now, next piece of news from Benjamin,

putting Ben through the ringer here.

RIMAC wants all of Bugatti.

This is, I haven't read anything in terms.

Very cool.

Mate, RIMAC basically.

So the, for people who don't know,

give us the play by play.

RIMAC was a electric car company

that made hypercars.

They had a concept one.

They did which the one that Rich Hammond crashed.

They then, they've been doing battery tech

and other stuff for a lot of manufacturers.

And VW Aldi, the big boys said,

yo, we want some of you.

But from what I understand,

and this could be wrong because it's complicated,

is that they, Porsche is owned by VW Aldi Group, right?

Yes.

So that Porsche bought 45% of RIMAC

and then they merged it with Bugatti.

Yes.

So it is now called, technically it's Bugatti RIMAC.

It's a company.

And Porsche still own 45% of the company.

So Matty RIMAC, apparently the CEO and the founder

has apparently getting fed up with,

something along the lines of,

fed up of answering, explaining his ideas to 50 people

for them to say yes, before getting to actually do anything.

So he's not really, I think he's basically saying

he wants more control.

So what he should do is leave him,

make his own YouTube channel, I think.

So he's making TDC.

Yeah.

So he, yeah.

So there'll be a video going,

why I left Bugatti RIMAC?

But yeah.

So he's put a bid in, I think, himself.

I would assume, I would assume.

The car wow is going to blow reserve.

We'll put 10 pound extra on it.

That's the classic bit of move.

I read a billion, but I don't know.

A bill?

So we'll come in with a billion and one pound.

To basically buy out Porsche from Bugatti,

from the whole company.

So it would then mean that he would own,

or they would be back in control.

Now I also read something, again,

I don't understand the sort of economics of it,

but there's something like Porsche,

holding company for the other part of it,

Porsche have a large stake in.

So they would still have some element of owning the company,

but they wouldn't own 45% of it.

So it would have some control, but it wouldn't be like.

So Matt Reamac just wants to come up with batch of ideas and go.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah.

Send it.

He wants to be a man like Kearney Sage.

Did you know what?

A man like Gordon the Murray.

It only makes him cooler in our eyes.

Fair.

Because that is the sort of thing

that an R32 Golf owner would do.

He's still a dream guest.

You know, he'd chop that resonator out

on the way to his board meeting,

deaf in himself, and then go,

what?

I want to buy the company.

What?

Why?

Well, I want to turbo charge my VR6 Golf R32.

There's another piece of news.

Sorry, sorry.

I have confirmed, yeah.

So apparently he offered them a billion for their show

in April of this year.

Just a cool bill.

It's just quite funny.

It sounds fake.

Yeah.

That sounds, that's Bond villain.

I'm offering you a billion.

One billion dollars.

Porsche, did you calculate that?

Or did you just sound like a cool number?

Where did that cat come from?

It was so big.

So that would be, so he said,

he said, I just want to be able to make long-term decisions

to make long-term investments

and do things in a different way

without having to explain to 50 people,

which is kind of fair.

And then, so the thing I was saying about them owning it,

sorry, still was that they own 22% stake in Rimac Group

who own the other, who own 35%.

So they, it's all maths and boring,

but essentially they're trying to buy out

Porsche's stake to own most of it.

Porsche would still have a little stake in it.

Everyone's trying to buy each other out.

We'll make a bid.

You know, you'll see us, you know.

I'll buy TDC for a billion,

and then you buy TDC off me for-

I've got a better idea.

We'll get a loan from the bank.

Buy the bank.

And then we'll buy the bank.

Buy off a loan.

Exactly.

Then keep your news hat on.

Okay.

Get your news phone out.

It's my phone with the RT.

The Ferrari SC40.

Now, on the screen now, there it is.

It looks awful.

I hate it.

I think Ferrari are done.

Yeah, it's-

Now I do, I, when we revealed,

when we revealed the test results,

we were first people on Earth.

I'd say we were fairly early though.

Yeah, we were.

So not to the public.

Not to post it.

We weren't on embargo,

but I think as a public human media company,

I don't know.

But we had a live reaction.

Now, Grant, the podcast went out a week later, but-

Of course.

TDC live reaction.

Brackets one week late.

No, I still believe I like that.

I want to see one in person,

but I like that design.

The test results are-

But I don't like how they are pillaging their old names.

Agreed.

And now this F, this supposed, this is a one-off.

The thing that annoys me the most about it,

I haven't even bothered to read into it too much.

I know it's a V6.

Oh, I think it's 296 based, right?

Oh, I don't care now.

But it is a 2.9, which is the same as the F40.

Okay, but that is such a stretch.

Hey, and it's turbo.

I would say like, maybe like 10 headlamps,

10 LED lights and a headlamp.

You know, type-

I think it's-

Do you mind that one?

Genuine.

Genuine, I think it is.

Well, the engine is 2.9, isn't it?

But I don't think they designed the not 296.

No, it wasn't a long-term thing that would make a one-off.

But my problem with it is, it is a one-off.

So you can have whatever you like.

At least the Kuntash, they made into a thing that-

I know they're still right.

Is it 50?

Yeah, there's a million.

But that's still a car.

Like they're out there.

I've seen one or two at Goodwood and shows and things like that.

But you're just never going to see this.

They don't go into it.

There are some amazing renders of F40,

like modern F40s, that if you were going to do it, they were spot on.

Yeah.

Even F50s, there are some amazing renders of those.

I don't know.

Maybe there are some reason why that can't be done.

But that thing looks so half-assed.

But it's also- I'll say this over the day.

The F40, right?

I think it's a great looking car.

And I think it will go down as a fantastic design.

But it's not complicated.

If you looked at that as a shape,

and you could very much take that image and draw it modern

and make that same car.

And at that point, I'm kind of in.

Well, do you remember the Eric Clapton 458 thing?

Are you laughing because of Eric Clapton's cheeks?

No, no.

Wasn't I too?

You just hit the word Eric really hard.

Okay, Eric.

Yeah, just a little laugh, sorry.

Okay.

So you had a custom- do you know about this, Ben?

You had a 458 made in a custom one-off spec.

Right.

And it was- I want to say it was a 512BB looking.

So basically that.

And it looked like a render of what a modern 512BB would look like.

It didn't look great, but it looked like it looked correct.

And I'm sure he was very happy with it.

All you'd have to do is that for an F40 and it would look incredible.

But why not?

Because realistically, right?

And this is always the argument everyone has with Bugatti stuff.

It's just a body kit.

A body kit with the sheer on.

They did loads of different versions of it and they went,

it's just the same car, just with a different body kit.

Kind of the same thing.

It's 296, which, you know, it's an expensive car,

but compared to what this will have cost, I don't know how much it cost.

What have Ferrari lost?

Part of me thinks, have they lived long enough

to think that was that was sort of like a teacher?

Now, come on in gang.

Let's find out what has Ferrari lost?

Part of me thinks they have lived long enough

to see themselves become the villain.

Kind of agree.

That it's like the even Lamborghini,

they've probably because they haven't been around as long as Ferrari.

Yeah.

They're still almost in that cool phase,

but they've lost some of the early like 70s, 80s, 90s stuff where it's like,

we just do what we like.

Yeah, exactly.

We make doors that go up and make stuff stupid.

Whereas Ferrari and now like in that.

I think it's so Ferrari are out.

They're off the end of the board.

I don't know.

I don't think it's possible.

Lamborghini coming up to that.

Yeah.

Pagani is now in that early 2000s Lamborghini bit

where it's starting to get a little bit more corporate.

Yeah.

They're still chucking out cool stuff.

Like that new, is it the new one?

Yeah.

That's still cool, but there's still layers of, okay,

maybe we're now trying to make this a bit more mass produced.

Yeah, when we're trying to make this.

We're not far away from having a little baby Pagani way out.

It feels, and this sounds stupid because it is a business

that's tromming money obviously, but it feels commercialized.

Whereas like, I'm going to make a car because I want to make it good,

but also it needs to sell.

Which is, I know you do to keep a float,

but there's never just a, you know what,

let's just make something ridiculous.

I don't know anything about anything at all.

I know.

Understandable.

And other people will know more about everything.

But I think since Peninferina went.

I agree.

No, I fully agree.

And that's that.

I know that's only design and they're not having a say in engine,

blah, blah, blah.

But since that was Ferrari.

Agreed.

But design, design, they're designing it.

I don't think it's very good.

I don't like the new testosterone thing.

I don't like this.

I don't understand why they take a design that is okay.

And they go, right, massive black strip goes there.

Well, the thing I was going to say is,

I think they have seen once or twice that cashing in on,

what would you call it, nostalgia for a name has worked.

And now they're just going way too far in on it.

Which is a Tesserosa.

Make it all look mental and dumb and weird.

And okay, now, now give me the, what do you call it?

The, what's the, what's the Daytona?

This one's a Daytona.

What are we doing with these names?

It's the, do you know what Ferrari are now?

The Disney.

Yeah, where Disney go, Disney used to be the nuts.

And now all Disney do is make rehashes of old things

that have lost the soul that the original thing had.

That is, Ferrari is Disney.

Look, Ferrari, if you're watching,

look at yourselves in the mirror.

Brackets.

They do not care to get the money.

I do not care.

We do not care.

It's great.

It's disappointing because Ferrari is, it's Ferrari.

It's meant to be, it's still, if you go to Italy

and you see all the bits to do with Ferrari,

it still feels the same.

It feels, yeah.

But the stuff they're putting out is not,

isn't matching that, that, that feel.

But I've, I think we've said it on TDC before

and even on the podcast.

I, growing up, I was a Ferrari.

Kyle, Ferrari was the coolest thing on earth.

It always was the coolest car.

But I don't know the last time I've seen a Ferrari modern one

that I've cared about, that I've even thought,

I think the 458 might be the last.

I like an F8, but a 458 is probably the last one.

In terms of stuff that I would ever even consider owning,

I'm not looking at much past like 2010, 2015.

Yeah, if I had the money, I wouldn't be.

F12, 458 is the cut off for anything that interests me

because that part of the draw of Ferrari is engine.

And now, and I know they can't do that because of emissions

and whatever else it is.

But part of the draw of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is,

is the engine.

Yeah.

Is an engine with stuff around it.

Absolutely.

If you haven't got a six and a half liter V12 or,

or a high revving V8,

then there's not that much to differentiate you

from what a Lotus or Alfa or whatever could put out.

I mean, realistically, an F40 is a big engine with some tube

and some carbon fiber.

Yeah.

That's it.

That's all it is.

But yeah, it is probably one of the most iconic cars on earth.

It's not an, people...

And it's turbocharged.

Yeah.

But people can compare them to McLaren F1.

People will talk about an F40 in the same breath as a McLaren F1.

Gordon Murray spent decades of his life crafting that.

Meanwhile, Ferrari, sticker the engine in the board.

Okay.

Here we go.

That's it.

I was at, I don't know if I mentioned this before,

but we might actually get him one as a guest,

Stuart from SB Race Engineering.

They deal with lots of very, very cool stuff.

And they have an F40 engine, which I learned on that day

is a half a million pound engine,

and the gearbox is a further 250,000 pounds, which is...

I can see why people don't drive them as much.

Three-quarter of a million pounds in drivetrain.

Yeah.

Which is more than three times what they were worth,

not that long ago.

Yeah.

Which you said he has a very cool story about.

He's got some really cool stories about stuff they used to buy,

but yeah, hopefully we'll do that in the next few weeks.

So there is...

Three to eight.

It's not that different.

There's a couple of differences on the front and the back,

but when you strip it down,

the same with some of the base model Ferrari that they had.

So, increasingly common Ferrari out.

Yeah, I'm getting tired of it,

because a new Ferrari thing comes out and I go...

I'm not saying that other manufacturers are actually...

There's not many other new stuff coming out, does it?

But if anyone should be able to do that, it should be Ferrari.

So, buck your ideas up, brackets, you're not listening.

Now, we'll take a break from your news.

You've got more bits on here,

but we'll move on to another anecdote.

I put in here the fill-up curse.

I believe there is a curse attached to all humankind

when it comes to filling up a car.

Specifically, a car you may have just bought,

and a car that you may be slightly unsure about reliability of,

that you will be convinced that it's reliable,

very briefly, and you go,

cool, I'm going to put full tank in that car.

Yeah.

And then, moments later, you will have an issue,

something that will either render that full tank completely useless

because the car will die,

or you will have that full tank sitting there for six months.

And it only came to me when the CL500,

we drove basically 400 miles back from Glasgow.

And then I drove it...

I'm sorry, I was going to say you drove it for a weekend,

so you put another, what, 6,000 miles on?

Yeah, another 6,000 miles on it,

but I'm probably five or 600 miles deep in that car at the moment.

After David's very generous fill-up,

which actually lasted us all the way,

I think I still had a quarter of the tank at the time.

And then I thought, you know what?

It's my turn to fill it up.

And filled it up, it's like, great, fantastic.

90 pounds or whatever it was from a quarter of a tank.

Five minutes down the road, I hear...

I was like, nah.

David's stuck in the boot.

Genuinely, five to 10 minutes after filling it up,

I was like, it's the worst feeling,

because you've just spent a ridiculous amount of money

putting fuel in any fuel, in any car now,

is expensive to fill up, let alone a CL.

I was like, it was just this rev-dependent whir.

I was like, so the suspension stuff is driven off the engine.

It's a pump, and the pump is quite well known for failing.

And I thought, oh, okay, here we go.

Big expense coming.

And there was a big expense,

but it's just that it was that 250 pound part.

But I know every time you fill up a car, something's happening.

The car goes, all right, let's test out your metal plate.

Let's see what you made of it.

It's like if you had a headache, and you ate a big roast dinner,

and you'd feel worse, because you're so full,

everything is like, oh, you know what, I feel, is that just me?

Imagine if you already didn't feel great,

and you ate loads of food.

You know when you're really uncomfortable, you're so full?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Isn't normally food helped that?

Yeah, yeah, but what I'm saying is,

imagine if you already felt a bit ill, and you ate too much food.

You have that, that...

You have, you're now like uncomfortable,

and then you're like realizing, oh, I got a headache.

What if you had 90 liters of E5?

I think you'd feel quite unwell.

Not well, yeah.

So I'm convinced that there is a curse attached.

So I want to know who cast it.

Turns out Ben has been the one living correct all the time,

only ever filling up half the tank.

This is the thing now.

Is it not true?

No, not anymore.

Ben, the penny pincher.

No, it's because I used to, you know what,

my brother used to do this.

He used to always fill his car up like 10 pounds at a time.

I used to do my head in, I don't understand,

because I agree with you, because you still use the same amount of fuel.

You do it.

But it's because, since having the X5,

the X5 is so much money to fill up,

I feel better to not do it.

Okay, fair if you feel better,

but it doesn't make a difference.

I know, I spend just so much money,

but also when I come here, I know exactly how much it costs.

Do you like petrol stations?

Do you like being there?

I go there so often.

That sounded like Donald Trump when you said that.

I go there so often.

I love it, Ben.

But do you mean what I'm saying is you go there all the time?

And then when you fill up that little amount,

you may be forced to go to a petrol station

you don't want to go to.

True, like as services.

I'm going to get rinsed out of your pants pulled down.

When that happens to me?

Last night, that happens to me.

Okay, interesting.

When you had your Gregg's pizza for dinner.

I don't know why they'd be off camera

making fun of my Gregg's pizza.

Well, it was more because you said you've had a Gregg's pizza.

You had a pizza yesterday for lunch.

You then had a Gregg's pizza for dinner.

You for lunch today have had pizza,

and tonight you're going to have a Gregg's pizza.

Probably because I'm going to get home at 11 p.m.

And then that's when he's going to get his headache.

You know, when you've had a...

You fill up on pizza.

I've felt that too much.

I already have a headache.

What I was saying?

Yeah, last night I was...

I filled up what I thought I needed,

and then I forgot I had to go and collect Edwin

from the train station yesterday morning.

Hello.

I had to go and there was loads of traffic.

I had to go a ridiculous route.

I was like, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I'm not bowing you.

No, no, no, just quickly.

As if it's some detour.

It's on...

It's at the same place that we're out there.

No, but I had to know because of the...

There was loads of...

There was a crash.

So I had to go all the way around and load up stuff.

And I was going up and down roads.

It was annoying.

Up and down the road.

Yeah, yeah, crazy.

And so I was on the way home.

I was like, I need to get a fuel.

My car said 115 miles.

I was like, cool.

That's my commute is like less than that.

So I was like, cool.

I got in the car.

I got halfway home and it went, yeah, mate,

you've got not enough fuel.

I was like, I forgot to think.

So I had to stop and get my Greg's pizza.

So I got fuel.

Then I stood there thinking, now,

do I get a bit of fuel now?

And then in the morning,

back when I leave my house at 7am just before,

I didn't get a fuel again.

Or do I just buy the bullet,

spend a million pounds on fuel now

and not have to do it?

I mean, a million minutes.

It's just had too far.

Yeah, I'll call it a million.

You stockpiling fuel like that.

It's clicked too many times if you get to a mill.

Yeah, it's just pouring on my shoes.

But yeah, so I had last night.

No, I had last night.

I was wearing gloves.

I almost used gloves the other day.

Hold on, petrol.

I reached for that.

No, this was diesel.

I was filling up the Range Rover.

It was embarrassing, actually.

I went to, if anyone knows, Bracknell.

Sure.

BP.

Is it BP there?

It's actually shout out Bracknell BP.

That's where I bought my Greg's dinner.

I swear we filled up the micro car with diesel.

Yeah.

And yeah, that was tough.

First pump, a pull-up.

Okay.

A pull-up.

I get out and I pick up the pump

and I thought that's an odd looking pump.

Interesting.

You're going back on so much stuff.

No, no, I didn't put any gloves on.

This is a different story.

The glove I considered for a while,

I picked up this pump and it was soaked.

It was sodden in diesel.

It was slippery as hell.

My hand was covered in it and I was like,

you know what, I might have to go for a glove here.

And then I looked at the pump and I thought,

what strange pump this is?

And I went to put it in my car and I thought,

oh, that doesn't fit.

And I kept looking at the pump.

I know.

And I kept putting it in and I looked at it and I was like,

why is this new fangled pump arrangement?

I was like, no one's told me anything.

There's no signage around.

I looked up a HGV only.

Yeah, HGV, that first pump.

But normally, for me, first pump, that feels odd.

I agree.

Banished HGVs to a separate pump.

Why is it HGV only?

It's a chode for HGVs.

But what I'm saying is it's still diesel, right?

Yeah, but they're probably putting 80,000.

They're probably putting, you know,

I think they'll have an auto clicker on it,

which we're not allowed.

I found it really interesting.

This is such a related, but I used to,

I didn't know how much it cost to fill up a lorry with fuel.

Okay.

I found out I got really intrigued.

And whenever I went to a service station,

I'd drive past a lorry like,

you know, they have a separate area to fill up.

I'd drive past it extra slowly to see how much the last person paid.

And I used to baffle me.

It's a thousand pounds.

Yeah.

Anyway, that's my story.

It's a thousand pounds.

Yeah, it's like 600 pounds to a thousand pounds for a...

So what's that, like 800 litres or something?

It's a lot.

Oh, yeah, it's a lot.

It's because they've got the tank.

It's because they're really big.

I thought he's had all tanks.

Yeah.

Yeah, but...

I like how, and I've never actually understood why,

or asked why, is when you get a lorry driver,

a van driver in front of you and they go,

what's the reg?

Because it's for, I think it's for fuel cards.

It's for tracking the amount of the cost.

See, I just thought, you know, what's the badge, mate?

Just testing you.

Is that, is that a lorry?

Is it private?

Comes back as a ninky-nunk.

Should put diesel in that.

What were we saying?

I don't know.

That was the end of the anecdote.

That was the end of a said anecdote.

Now you've had enough fun back to the news.

I was gloved.

Sorry.

Yeah, go on.

Yeah.

No, I considered the glove.

I felt the chode was wrong.

You know, I'm embarrassed.

I had to go to different pump.

If you live by the glove, you die by the glove.

But I still, despite, despite it being absolutely covered,

I didn't do it.

I wiped my hands on my jeans and I went to another pump.

I get scared now after this podcast to wear gloves

because there was one time I was filling out my car

and someone who lists the podcast recognized me

filling up my car.

And you were wearing it?

Yeah.

They didn't say anything about the gloves,

but I was acutely aware.

They knew.

They might have, no.

Yeah.

And now whenever I,

whenever I go to a pet station and it's somewhat busy

and there's lots of people around me,

I look around to make sure that no one's looking at me.

It was a glove on, which is probably wrong.

Stealth glove.

Yeah.

You should take your own glove with you.

We still, we need a custom glove.

That's so much worse.

Ben, you've put some more news in here.

Yes.

The LFA successor revealed December the 5th.

Yes.

The LFA successor will be revealed on December the 5th.

No way.

That hasn't used to me.

What car?

Lexus LFA.

All right.

That's going to be revealed.

The successor will be.

What day?

When?

December the 5th.

Christmas.

Only two weeks away.

This way.

And this is a V8 now.

Yes.

And now, now this could be complete fake news.

I saw a sound comparison.

I think I did too.

It was the, it was the Toyota something.

Yeah.

The early whatever was, whatever the one before the LFA was like.

Wait, what?

We're talking, it's a Toyota something.

Do you, do you, do you want, do you want?

I don't know.

I don't know what it was.

A race car type thing?

I don't know.

Because obviously Lexus just Toyota, but anyway,

then there was a video of, it was like three in a line.

It was a, there's a Toyota car.

Then it was a Lexus LFA with the amazing.

What's the Toyota?

And then it was the allegedly going to be called the LFR,

might not be, but the new V8 noise.

And it sounded okay.

Now in my head, I think I might have seen

a Nurburgring testing video.

Yeah, there's lots of those.

But it sounds, it sounded to me just like the Lexus,

like LC 500 noise.

If it doesn't sound good, they've missed a bit.

There's a big issue there.

Because that's the, if you're going to go, right,

if you go, okay, we're making a new super car.

Everyone goes, all right, cool.

Brand new model.

If you go, it's the LFA successor.

It's got to be special.

It's got to have the noise.

This is what I'm saying about engine shit in super cars.

It feels like no manufacturers take note

of the fact that the engine is, they want to go,

ah, yeah, yeah.

But the new V6 makes a 9,000 horsepower.

That I do not think that the LFA,

if it had a V6 or even a VA or whatever,

I don't care if it revs 9,000,000 million.

Yeah.

That I do not think it would be remembered in the same vein.

The same as the Crera GT or any of those cars

where they would not have the same,

they would not sit on the same pedestal

that they sit on now as they had an,

not even a Nath engine,

but an engine that doesn't fill your head with joy.

I know there is noise and emissions and it's annoying,

but where is the passion?

Where's the aggression?

There is no passion.

There is no aggression.

And just make it loud.

That for me, I actually think that is possibly

the most important part of that car.

If you're going to market it as the LFA successor,

which they might not actually be doing,

it could have been put on by journalists,

but it's implied that it is the next one.

I mean, if you're calling it an LF, whatever.

Exactly, yeah.

It needs to be, you need to be part of the gang.

I would literally hire a team to make the exhaust and go.

I would say the, as poorly received,

not poorly received, but as little love as it gets,

the NSX successor did well.

It sounded pretty decent.

It had its, it missed the manual,

but it has, it had the vibe and we're going off vibes.

The LFA realistically is probably the only modern car

that if you take the OEM and exhaust off of it

or change it, people get upset.

There's no other car, but I think that...

Yeah, I heard a straight pipe one once on a video.

For someone who's talking about it,

I was like, if you straight pipe one, it's awful.

Yeah. Well, there is a very good video.

I was actually meant, I don't remember if I talked about this.

His name is Meister.

He is a, he does lots of sound resonance, like tuning.

He understands that sort of stuff.

He's done stuff with Merc V12.

Really good, interesting YouTube video where he,

I believe he is trying to build an LFA exhaust

to see if he can replicate the noise.

But Yamaha did not have anything to do with the exhaust.

They built the intake and they tuned the intake.

Interesting.

So there is, apparently there is a new book

written by one of the developers of the exhaust, the LFA.

And it's not, it did not, that is a common misconception.

I thought that too.

That's cool.

It's the classic.

You know, Yamaha actually did the exhaust.

Instruments.

Yeah, that's why it sounds so good.

But there is a lot of ridiculous engineering

behind why it sounds the way it sounds.

But that's my, that's the thing is it,

life on sound so good, you have to make it a new one sound.

Not, it would never sound, it's a V8.

It's never going to sound as mental as that.

But you could try and make it sound, just try.

I also think it's a good explanation of how important it is.

Because how often do you hear people talking

about the LFA's performance?

Oh no, no.

I couldn't even tell you what the naught to 60 is on it,

or the top speed.

It's not, it's not even part of the discussion.

It's just, look at that special thing.

And also, I like how it looks.

It's not, it's not mental.

No.

It's pretty reserved looking thing.

I think it looks just okay.

But yet everyone knows what an LFA is,

because it has that special, a special sauce.

I would have one.

Yeah, you would.

I don't even, don't even like that.

Maybe if the X5, you know, maybe you trade one into the LFA,

or don't even want to downgrade.

It's also, realistically, that is a,

it's a, it's not, it's not the best component.

The engine and the noise is here.

It's got a not that great gearbox.

Looks aren't that great.

And it's a Lexus.

It hasn't got that much going for it,

but the engine and the noise combo is what made it.

Yeah, but yeah, I would,

I would say if you put a top 10 of supercars,

LFA would get discussed.

The next section is fire marshal training.

Edwin, would you like to take it away?

I will.

Okay.

The last week, myself and Will,

and then also, also Alex and Rory,

had to go to fire marshal training.

A course in the UK.

If I'm honest, I'm still not aware why we went,

because apparently it turns out it's not a legal requirement for us.

So it just became a doubt.

This is the boring part of the business,

which is making sure things are safe.

Making sure we are running everything correctly.

This is an actual workspace,

rather than it being a workshop with everyone shouting at each other.

So we were told to meet,

and I was the first to arrive.

We were told to meet at a local St. John's ambulance place,

classroom, that's the one I'm looking for.

And we walked in and there was maybe 15, 20 other people.

And instantly we all started marking around like children,

fine, normal.

But there came to a part of the fire marshal training

and the host who was also very Alan Partridge said,

right guys, I'm going to show you a series of photos up on the screen.

They're going to be a little bit tongue-in-cheek.

They're going to be a little bit over the top.

But there's some examples.

See what we can spot that's incorrect.

And they showed like a workplace and it was,

you know, there's fuel about to fall onto a radiator

that's being covered by paper.

Yeah, flammable hazard.

There's a dude standing in front of the fire exit smoking.

So, you know, it was over the top,

but it was clear to see there are issues pointing out, cool.

He's happy moving on to the next one.

The next one was a supermarket.

Kids playing with the fire extinguisher.

Someone blocking the fire exits.

You're classic.

Right.

He then went, oh, now this is a bad one.

And he flipped over to a workshop,

an illustration of a workshop.

And what we saw was the TDC workshop really.

In reality, it's what it was.

It was a two-phase lift with a car on it.

Someone was under it.

Oxyacetylene torching part of the car,

which had sparks flying everywhere.

Underneath the car was fuel cans, loose paper,

oil on the floor that had spilled, electrical cables,

someone else working on another car,

and a man smoking by a skip.

A man painting a car.

A man painting a car just outside.

And a man smoking on a skip just outside the door.

And the man went, oh, this is bad.

And he had heard that we kind of worked on cars

and looked at us and went,

but your workshop's not like this, is it?

And we all went, no.

Because it's actually much worse.

It was.

And there was a photo, I'll put it on the screen today.

I was grinding something.

And it was just a reproduction of the photo.

It was me chowering sparks onto a tinderbox of papers.

So we need to up our fire safety gear.

Sorry, no, we will be up our fire safety because that is...

Yeah, no, it was.

It was as funny as it was to be class clowns for the day.

It was a little bit like, you know what?

If we had an issue, we're having a big issue.

It's your wake up call.

It was, you know what?

It's all fun and games and it's not fun and games.

But you know what?

It's all shits and giggles.

Until someone shits and giggles.

No, until someone giggles and shits.

That's not a game, on fire.

If your company comes to you and says

you need to do fire marshal training, I recommend it.

Yeah, you get to a waz of fire extinguisher.

Yeah, we were arsonists.

Yeah, that was fun.

That was not, he made a mistake.

He chose half the class to be arsonists and attack a building,

as in in your brain, come up with a way to attack a building.

And the other half to be the people trying to protect the building.

Unfortunately, the four of us, we were given the arsonists.

Just to give you a brief rundown of the scenario we came up with,

we were going to murder the security guard at first step.

Make sure he was out of the way.

And then I would be an electrician called Dave with two A's,

who is from the Netherlands, anywhere in the Netherlands.

He would be wearing a high visibility jacket with the AA on the back.

And he would approach the Biddle building with a fake ID

with the mission to put nine inch nails in your fuse box.

So that not necessarily the fire would be happening right now,

but tomorrow morning or at some point,

your building would go off and flames.

It would go off and flames.

Yeah, and the other team, they didn't look impressed.

They were baffled.

We were quite happy, we were laughing.

He then asked, why are you trying to do this?

We said, hey there, business mate.

So apologies, St. John's Fire.

He was a very good sport and we actually did listen to him.

We took it very seriously, but it was also great fun

and it felt like being 12 again.

But yeah, whoever managed to break in

and illustrate the TDC unit so perfectly,

I don't know, I want our keys back.

They looked at all the videos and went right.

I mean, you really need to humiliate these guys.

They're Benjamin.

Hi, we want to round it out with some car sounds.

It's been a while.

Can we get-

You've gone away and got some sounds.

You had to go into another room.

For those of you unaware, this is a section

where we like to make Ben test us on car noise

because we are, do you know something?

Sorry, so just quickly, a little aside,

something that you got quite confused about the other day

is Ben showed me a video of a car

and said, what wheels are these?

And it was a video of the wheel spinning on the car.

And I said, are those T-37s?

Oh no, sorry, there were C28s.

And he went, the bit where the car stopped isn't there yet.

I was like, no, it doesn't matter.

And I think I reckon I will,

you're the only other person I've ever met

that can do that as well.

I don't even know how.

Yeah, I don't know how.

Maybe there's something in the frame rate

of your brain that's-

Is that word?

Yeah, there's a diagnosis there somewhere.

I'd say there's a smidge of it.

Anyway, touch of it.

Anyway, what I will say is that these guys decided about,

would you say 30 to 40 seconds before we press roll?

I believe you should always have five backed up at any one moment.

And then also the car videos.

That's crazy.

I sat in the podcast and he went,

let us do some car sounds.

I went, okay, I need to go sit in the room now for five minutes

and work this out.

So-

And you did it?

Yeah, but I don't-

You might guess them.

And the thing is that they-

I said-

You might guess this guess again.

I don't want you to.

Because the thing is that it's not fun

if you just guess it straight away.

Because you'll hear like, oh, what's that?

Oh, there's the door shut.

We didn't get one right before.

Yeah, and also it's not for us,

it's for the cremers to play along.

Of course.

We have to allow a small pause for them to think.

Yeah, but they're exactly what I mean.

If they're like in their car's way to work

or having a poop and they're listening to the podcast.

Oh, what a strange thing to do.

What people listen to the podcast whilst they're-

How long is their poo?

We may leave your proclivities aside.

We make YouTube videos, guys.

I don't know what you think people will do

while they're watching them.

Number one is DB9.

This is the tap of Ben's phone.

I know what car is.

There is a psychological element that is trying to get,

think of what Ben would think.

Now, those where I'm gonna hear

a hundred and sixty thousand.

There's a hundred and sixty thousand, is it?

Is it a hundred and sixty thousand with the UK exhaust bars?

It is, yes.

It's because they're all in my YouTube history,

so I just saw it.

What else is in your history?

Uh, no, it needs to be my idea.

There's an Alan Partridge video we were watching earlier.

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Right, here we go.

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And can I get confirmation that this is a road car?

Yes.

Right, okay, that makes sense.

Okay, my first base is E92-ish.

I was gonna go with an Audi.

Yeah, okay.

Like an RS5 or an R8.

Can I get that one?

Specifically an Estronic R8.

Oh, I like that.

V8.

It revs up something.

It's gonna be something else, isn't it?

Um, I'm gonna go with...

Actually, we're quite annoyed about this one, we're going.

If that's an E92, I'll eat my own hat.

I reckon I could get an E92 a few miles away.

I don't think it is, but I'm gonna go with the E92,

because that's my first brain.

It could be a very standard E92.

Yeah, no exhaust model, nothing.

That was a Bugatti Tourbillon.

No way.

Okay, that's interesting.

That sounds like it revs very high.

10,000, it says.

On the gauge, it says 10,001.

Wow, it's Cosworth, isn't it?

Ah, interesting.

It's Cosworth, it's Cosworth.

It's got YB and it's got bloody rolled out tip in that.

Honestly, a bigger turbo on that, you'll fly.

Cos it in the Bugatti.

What color is your Bugatti?

Yeah, so that's a V16.

Yeah, nice.

So that's why I thought I'll catch you.

It's two E92 and three, so that's why.

You know what, props to the RS5 and the R8 that I thought it was that.

You now sound like a Tourbillon.

Next.

First of all, that's great.

Now, it sounds like 6.5 Ferrari.

Yeah, but now obviously that falls into many models.

But he also, do you know what I had right at the beginning?

It had the airs of Zonda right at the beginning.

But no, it's not.

It's not the shift to too quick.

Shift to too quick.

On the, it's F12, F12, FF.

Choose on.

That's so silly.

It's not guess whether it's a car or not.

It's guess the car.

Play one more.

I'm going to say 812.

It's real drive.

812 competition.

It's the only.

I'm going to say that is an F12.

Rivalto.

No way.

Cool.

Yeah.

I'm not happy about that because that's.

Now I'm a little bit, it's somewhat cheating because it is modified.

But Benjamin, you're not going to get, I wanted that car.

Are you not going to get, be able to hear it properly?

Because it's not, it's quite quiet.

Yeah, but you can, but that's how you know.

That's how you can tell.

But that's just loud car.

That's just loud car.

Listen, you guys, you're very welcome.

You're very welcome to, to, to go on the, to find them and then to go on the easy round.

All right.

If you want to be good at cars, you have to be.

I'm disappointed at that one because the other of modified Rivalto

sound more like a ventinal.

Yeah, exactly.

So that, that was a curve.

Was it actually?

Yeah.

The, now it was though.

The car was in the video.

It's, it's doing a pull towards you and then slows down.

So you're hearing it from the front, not the back.

Okay.

Now you're not noted.

I bet, I bet you Creamers at home probably got two for two.

Yeah.

I think there's some Creamers that got that.

I think we're on three.

Oh, true.

That doesn't, that, well, I did five and that's the, that was a,

this is how the game works round.

That was you.

Hello, mate.

I know that noise anywhere.

I know that video.

It's the video of it.

It's with the animations like over the top.

It's actually not.

Is it not?

It's just things off.

She's the LFA.

Like that's LFA.

I'm not asking you to ask me if it's LFA.

Yeah.

It's, yeah.

So I throw an easy one in there for you.

I still love that.

There, there's a video that is, it's on a track, but it's like,

almost animation, almost like it's a hyper, what do you call it?

edited footage of it on a track.

So it's not real.

It's just beauty shots of the car going past, but with the noise of it being on track.

Oh, that's good.

Right.

I don't know how many we're on.

We're at three or four, but we're going to keep going.

That was the third.

Tiddable.

Yeah.

Veyron.

Yeah.

As I say, he's, he's WCC.

He could be a sheer.

I don't know what a sheer on sounds like, but I think that's a Veyron.

Oh, no.

Sheer on.

Is that a new one?

Is that the?

All right.

Yeah.

Was it the Blanc Mahler's or whatever it's called?

Is it a strong bevel?

Is that the one?

Yeah.

But yeah.

In Minstrel.

Minstrel.

Minstrel's the one.

The striggered video of, of, of, of, of Rome coating taking.

Convern exec from our guard.

CVK.

Yes.

He's taking Mr. Kranick's idea.

And he's, they're like two small boys going,

listen, listen to the turbo nice.

I, I, I, that one really wasn't on the list.

I just got to look at the tour beyond and then it recommended that video to me

because it's, it's, it's sheer on in, in nature, but because it's convertible

and the intakes of rubb of your head.

You get that crazy blow off noise.

I love, you know what I used to hate.

I still, it's not a good noise, the Veyron Chiron noise,

but it is unique.

You know, I know that noise.

I think, I think in that application with,

cause I don't actually know how much you can hear

in the Chiron.

Obviously it's like a luxury as well, right?

So I'm sure it's relatively refined inside,

but that would be a lot of turbo.

Oh, it's the same like the P1.

P1 turbo noise is.

Whoa.

Is it like X5 with a sort of like EGR delete?

Yeah, exactly.

Okay, here we go.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I forgot, do you want some context

of where the camera is mounted?

Yeah.

On the back of the car.

So you're facing down looking at the exhaust.

Can I look at it?

Can I look at half of it one more?

It's got like zero six, but that's hard.

I believe it's LS.

It's really high pitch.

Yeah.

That's something that's referring me or something.

Ooh, that could be interesting.

God, do you know what?

I actually, I was somewhat hesitant of this game

because it has to do lots of research,

but you know what?

This is great fun for me.

I mean, this is.

I think it's something LS based.

It has that weird LS.

What's that LS based?

It's UK based.

It's not that Alexis thing.

It's too, it revs too high.

No, I like to find the video.

Revs too high for that.

It's manual.

Yeah.

Didn't sound like, you know what?

I'm gonna lock it in on the, on a zero six.

What did I say?

I said something to you.

You said it could be something like a GT.

Yeah.

I don't think it is, but let's go with that.

It also has weird heirs of like three, five, five Ferrari,

but not, but not.

Interesting.

Is it?

F40.

That's an F40.

That's a bit in flames and stuff.

Now I didn't, I don't know.

It might be modified.

It didn't look, didn't say it was modified in the video.

It just said F40 brutal acceleration.

To be fair, most of them have either like a Chibi style

or a,

okay.

But that was F40.

Damn.

Like an Insta360 mount on the back.

Oh, that's power slide lovers video.

I think normally there are the classic video

with the flames at night.

Are they F430?

Yeah, probably.

And I'll do the last one.

Oh, bonus.

It's upsetting me because it's failing.

Run it again, babe.

Cut.

Oh.

Now that's hard to,

that's a passing.

It's all like on my way.

It comes behind you.

There's a little pull past.

Can I get that one more, please?

Of course you can.

A Maserati.

Also, is that turbo noise at the end from that?

It's gonna say that it's sound off.

Right at the end.

That's, that ominous.

Well, that was, I actually noticed that.

It sounds V8.

I'm going to say.

I was a 918 or something.

I don't know.

I'm going to say a Maserati,

something with like a Quattroporte or a Gran Turismo.

Well, back on the Ferrari grind,

it's a F8 Tributo.

Ah, damn.

My first answer was F8.

That's annoying.

Yeah, there you go.

And do you want, I'm going to do a bonus one.

Oh, another bonus.

Wish you'll get it.

But I saw it.

I saw it.

I saw it and I just,

I truly just enjoyed it.

So I saved it.

Okay, that's it.

Do what?

That, is that one of your dream cars?

The one for a C6 only,

is my favorite V8 noise.

Is that a Z06 or is that normal?

I think that's a Z06.

Okay.

Cause they are, they are a very different engine

than the standard.

I want a Z06.

I want, I want, what I would love

is exactly what we had on the channel.

I want a pro charger,

but not a convertible cause that can't run,

but with a big old lumpy cam.

I just, there are nights where I lie and bend

and just listen to sounds of them.

And that's the only car I do that with.

There is a, an old video of an I, an ISF.

I can't remember what it is.

I think it's a nice, it's twin turbo ISF Lexus

with a, with a choppy cam where it's, it starts up

and a Z06 starts up next to it.

It just dominates the whole video.

Like everyone's there for the ISF,

but you can just hear bop, bop, bop, bop.

I can't, I can't describe the sound of the C6 Z06.

It's, it's, it's what we just played.

That's interesting.

It's, it's the, it's not V8, but it is V8.

Do you know what I mean?

It's not like, it's not like the Jag.

There was like a really like a deep V8.

It's an American.

It is an American.

It's just, it tickles my brain when I listen to it.

And I, I, I ever since that day

when we had that convertible one, I can't, I can't see it.

It feels cave man in nature.

It's so simple, but it's just so good.

There is something to be said about an American V8 that is,

oh, Ben also doesn't have to be inside a Corvette.

We can get an LS and stick a lumpy cam.

Well, if we do, also, I don't want you to get caught

for the channel, please.

Why not?

Cause I want one of it.

Now, okay, then the, the price of Z06 is,

is around about 30 grand mark for a Tati one going up to 40

in the UK.

Now I'm going to say something.

You're going to laugh at me.

I thought, well, I was going to say that's not bad,

but what I meant was as an, I thought there'd be more

than that.

No, yeah.

I mean, that is a pretty special car,

but there's so that there are volume wise America makes

their special cars even in volume.

But what I'm going to say is a 35 grand Z06

or a 60 grand V12 Vantage,

which would you like to work towards?

It could be a stepping stone.

They're both what I want to own.

They're both up there, but it's probably still

after mine, cause that's my.

Well, okay.

I don't think I could own as a Corvette in this country.

You couldn't do it.

I think it's wrong.

Why?

It just feels wrong to be Corvette, man.

But I just, like, we had that one for the day

and it was great and fun, but it just, I wanted to be,

it needs to live in America.

I wanted to be in Arizona in like a sunset in the summer

and I wanted to come home from my job

on one straight road, just doing pools.

That's what I wanted to do.

I felt a bit, if I, if it was, if I was in Bracknell

in November on a Wednesday, I got a big cut in there.

I had any of that and I had to just drive, you know,

to around about and I just would feel wrong.

It doesn't feel correct.

Left hand drive is quite wide.

It's almost, it's like the meeting your hero thing,

but also, but it's like some cars,

they belong in the setting they belong in.

However, a Monaro or something with a seven liter in it,

like that I could do.

Now we've been thinking about them.

So if anybody spots it, well,

if anybody knows of one offline,

I didn't mean to say this at some point.

This is a little PSA for cremers.

Will and I, I think we talked about it earlier,

have some form of diagnosis.

That's, you know, can't talk about it on podcast,

but yes, we've seen everything online.

Then there's, there's nothing less.

If there's a car we're interested in,

there's nothing we haven't seen.

You need to bring us off the grid details.

It has to be cars that aren't available.

I mean, what's up?

I went on gumtree today

because I thought I'd have a little check about what's on.

We're, we're, we're about.

So if there's, if there's something that you know about

offline, that's when you get in touch with us.

But if it's something on auto trailer or you,

or eBay, I guarantee we've seen it.

We do appreciate any time you guys get in contact with stuff.

Because it's, it's, it's the cameras will stop now

and we'll probably, well, it's probably half an hour

till we'll go home.

I've got people to call for and it's going to be,

everyone doing that.

And then it will be, everyone will be talking about one car

and then we'll go, yeah, but I found a egg on, on,

on it's gone live eight minutes ago.

And then they go, yeah, but have you seen the new listing

on, on, on eBay?

And then, yeah.

It is, it is a such as life.

Cars, cars rule over the ground.

You can be branding that, I think.

A podcast, a podcast at the same time.

Tomei Pongcams.

Right.

I think that's a great place to end.

It's getting quite late now.

Thank you very much for listening to this episode

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We will be back next week.

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