C.R.E.A.M. #71 - Ben's Daily Issues, Doug Demuro Beef and The Best M5

Oh, wait, it's in. No, it's not. I hate it. I hate it. I actually hate it. I don't want to do this anymore.

I hope that doesn't mess with Pie and Mash Day. And they went, hang on. Pie and Mash has a whole week.

It's a week. There will be a V12 Lamborghini in my life.

Delectable. Delectable.

And in six to sort of seven years, you're going to be dead.

Hello, and welcome back to the 71st Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast with myself,

Edwin, William to my left, Ben, both behind and in front of the camera.

Hello, I'm both.

Before we start the podcast, we always answer the question whether cars rule or ruin everything

around us this week. William.

Rule. It's a rule. No massive reason to ruin. The Clio is off to Cormorant Motorsport having

it's actually had its timing belt. Gearbox is being rebuilt. It's quaffed if going in.

There's many cool things going on that car. I've just got to get some other parts together.

I've also been ordering parts for real drive conversion on the Gallardo.

That's going to be big.

Really looking forward to. I'm going to do a video on that. So yeah, no real Range Rovers

Mac working. CL is working. You haven't talked about that yet.

No, I said it last week. Oh, you did?

I sold it. Okay. Goodbye, mate.

But that is sold. That is gone. And then began is a for crazy. It's a wizzy. It's a woozy.

One day it might exist. It will come back eventually. So yeah, I'm going to talk through

my things and then I'm going to choose the end because it's up and down. Okay.

First things first, the second Clio video will be out by now.

Yes. Yes. Yes. So you've seen that we got the car started. It was a bit rushed for that video.

So it wouldn't go into reverse. It wouldn't go into fifth gear. The throttle cable snapped.

So we basically drove it out on idle. So it wasn't it wasn't that good.

Also, it didn't have an O2 sensor plug in. So it was quite rich. So I spent this last weekend

doing a load of little bits and pieces for that. So that was good. However, tomorrow you will see

my E36, the silver one that we posted about pretty recently. It had an issue. It's been stuck

in the unit next door. And there's I tried to fix it yesterday on the weekend. It didn't work.

We tried to fix it today. It didn't work. It needs almost. Well, it was progress.

Yeah, it was a little bit of progress, but still the same. So overall, I'm going to say ruin because

additionally, we sold our Ferrari 355. You're going to see that in a video coming soon, which is

quite funny. We took it to an auction, a dodgy auction.

Yeah, no, it was interesting. It was a rough auction.

Shallow make actually perfect, perfect integration. You'd think we planned it.

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Curse You CarVertical. We went to this auction. We had a look around and it was a lot of tat.

It was like real tat, like hundred pound yarrises and things. And in the back,

just like snuck away was this long wheelbase Audi A8. It would be like a 2009.

Oh, seven that was.

It was an 07 with the 4.2 diesel V8. I was like, well, that's nice. And we'll

had said it in the car. We were on the way. It was like, that's kind of a cool idea.

And then it had the speedline wheels and it was a long wheelbase and it was a nice

better than it was grain tight. It was great. And I was like, oh, this could be good.

I was praying. I was like, let me let me run a cover on it and hopefully it's damaged.

I can say, I know. I came back and it was just mint.

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And then it started up and drove past us in the auction. It did not sound good.

No, it sounded unhappy. Yeah.

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Shout out CarVertical. So for that reason, because it's one up, one down, plus I didn't buy a car,

I didn't need a car, it's going to be a ruin for me.

Also, I almost considered buying a fiesta at that auction.

I had no way to get home, technically. So there was a fiesta coming up and it did say

that the CapClean or whatever it was was like 500 grand. I thought,

SD 150 for 500 grand. Cheap car.

I think it sold for like 750. It was like 800 and something plus the fees. So you're probably

almost a grand. But make sure you tune into that episode because that is going to be,

that's the, yeah, it was tough. It was not great episode for us, but it's a car gone.

Hey, it's another car gone. We're clearing the books so that we can focus on the big ones.

I know a lot of you getting upset that we weren't doing that. Benjamin,

I have an idea as to what it's going to be.

Ruin. Yeah. What is that?

Yeah. Car cars.

Now, would you like to know something, Ben? I was keeping track of the things you said.

Explain what you just did because we were supposed to start this podcast at, well,

I mean, we finished up about, I'd say we finished about five o'clock.

And then right now it's just turning eight, eight PM.

We originally weren't going to do a podcast.

No, no, we said, like, you know, you could get this job that you need to do on your car,

it's a half an hour job. It's like a bumper off.

Just a quick bumper off place something and then back on.

I'm currently going through the process of trying to fix every place that my golf leaks from,

which is about all of them. All of them leaks into.

It leaks into the boot, but anything you do on these golf stages,

they just leak. It's like, well, they're biggest down, down, down something.

Fall? Downfall, that's the one.

So the big, I have got, I haven't got a pool of water, but a little bit of water in the boot.

You've got like, someone's just starting to like go for a water feature.

They're just getting the base of it ready.

I don't want rust. And I don't want water in my boots for mold. I don't need that.

So I thought, let's prep, prep proactively, so on, try and fix it.

So one of the biggest things is that there are things,

I think they call it pressure relief vents in the rear.

So behind the bumper, you've got these little like flaps.

And it's so when you slam the door, obviously that has got to go somewhere.

So it relieves the air and from factories don't fit.

Like you can wiggle them about.

So when the spray from the motorway of water comes off the back of your tire,

it goes behind your bumper and then just seeps into your boot.

Lovely.

What people say to do by brand new vents, when you put them in, silicon them around.

Lovely.

Pretty easy job.

Easy job.

It does involve stripping the entire of the boot,

trims down and then taking the lights out and then taking the bumper out off.

And it is a bit of a pain, but I really struggle with it.

Now, I regret it.

Well, here's the thing.

So Ben came into this room to start on this job.

Now Will and I were next door doing some research.

And at first it was all, it sounded great.

Sure.

There was clicking, there was like ratcheting.

It was going like movie well.

You know, like a movie when they're doing car stuff and they're just, it just shots them.

It was perfect.

You were Vin Diesel.

I haven't told you this.

I guessed there were three different socket sizes.

I guess each of them by looking at them perfectly each time.

I was just thinking like, this is too easy.

Come on, that means Ben.

It's not a guess.

You're starting to believe.

I think it was a guess.

Okay.

But go all the stuff, got a whole boot stripped down with the lights out

and then got to taking the bumper off.

Then it was, well then at that point you got an audience and you weren't a fan of that.

And I got most of the bumper off and I kept finding more bolts

and I kept finding more clips and I just couldn't get it off.

Well, it was at that point that we decided to come in and have a look

as well as Patrick on social media.

And Ben wasn't a fan of that.

The mood shifted quite quickly to Ben being, because Ben was struggling,

but it went away from-

There was heckling.

Of course there was heckling.

Patrick helped though.

Shout out Patrick.

I'm sorry.

We helped.

Patrick was on his friends' knees.

Would still be attached.

And then to what about a car as well?

You did help when the bumper came off.

Yeah, but getting that, but there was like two bolts.

What about those final two bolts?

Which ones are those?

The ones that you couldn't get off.

I've got to see.

They were round, used, then slammed a tool down the ground, said,

I'm not doing this.

I'm putting it back together.

Yep.

And then I looked at it and put the correct size tool in.

But you had.

I had, yeah.

And undid it.

Well, this is what I did.

I decided it might be worth keeping track of some of the things Ben says.

Of course he did that.

Because I had no idea he'd done this.

I know.

Yeah.

No, I know you did.

Because you enter it with so much Geely, like we said before,

but I don't think anybody listening understands how angry you get.

Now, Deck, editing this, you're going to need to please bleep the swears,

because I need to add them for it to feel kind of.

I do want to say something.

I am actually, I'm not that much of an angry person.

I think I'm pretty chilled out person.

But cars really get me.

Cars are really not used when it comes to it.

Yeah, all the time.

But for anything else, I'm fine.

Get a stellar in him.

And he is going, he's in the drunk tank.

He's a little 5 amp.

I get exasperated.

On a starter motor.

I get a little bit exasperated sometimes at things,

but I don't get angry at really anything.

I'm like, but cars, I feel it's raging me when it doesn't work.

Let's hear these lines.

So I'm intrigued.

We're going to go.

So I've got just first thing here.

Quietly to himself, that doesn't work like that.

It doesn't work at all.

Don't talk to me for a minute.

I have to think.

Why in the corner go in?

Oh, wait, it's in.

No, it's not.

I hate it.

I actually hate it.

I don't want to do this anymore.

Can you please just put this wheel on for me?

I don't care anymore.

Now that was said when you weren't able to put the wheel on the car.

And then what do we do?

I just told you how to put a wheel on the car.

Do you know the most annoying part about that was?

I thought at the time that it really annoyed me

was that what you told me to do was exactly what I'd been doing.

But for some reason, when you explain it to me,

I just did it perfectly the first time.

But I've been doing exactly what you said.

Now, this one is my favorite by far.

I don't want to do this.

I give up.

There were five.

There were four I give ups.

Oh, my God.

We'll ask for a time update.

Bend the response.

You can feel free to go home.

Now that was said, I'd say three to four times.

Yeah, because we were okay.

We have a guest podcast tomorrow.

You won't.

I can't come to that.

Also, speaking of that, extra podcasts from now on.

Yes.

Now, no longer is a guest podcast going to be on a Thursday.

We're going to do that on a Tuesday.

And it'll be an extra podcast for you.

So when we have a guest, you get an extra podcast in the week.

Every Thursday is the trio creaming.

On a Tuesday, a guest comes in to cream.

Sometimes.

Not every Tuesday.

On which we choose Tuesdays.

Shall we aim for once a month?

Do we choose?

No, no, we will not.

We will not make promises or negotiate.

Thursdays are tough enough for us to make that happen.

So, you know, but shout out the creamers.

Shout out.

We're giving you extra beads.

We, I'm not at this podcast filming tomorrow.

Of course you're not because it's a guest.

I can't be there.

I'd be getting grief all week for this.

And because of that, I said, we said, we decided this.

We said, we're going to do more podcasts.

Right.

And then you guys said, well, we could do a Wednesday.

We could do it today.

And then they went, now it's like, I was like, all right, cool.

But I was, I was, I was, I started this.

Pause.

I said about five o'clock because we managed to get everything

else done that we needed today.

We could do the podcast tonight.

If you put your car up on the list and you get it done.

And Ben said, that's a great idea.

No, like, let's, let's do the podcast tonight.

I'll do the car.

Well, I was thinking, cause I knew on Wednesday night,

we'd go a longer day.

So then it later on, it became what I didn't say we should do on Monday.

Why?

I didn't say, I agreed.

There's a difference here.

You suggested I agreed.

Well, well, well, if it isn't gaslighting then

I'm not gaslighting.

I'll cut them in a minute.

Here later.

Anyway, there was the whole thing because I was like,

we don't have nothing.

Nothing.

No one's making us do it tonight.

We could do it another night, but then we already agreed to it.

I think it was you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I decide.

Yeah.

These guys had been sat around for like an hour waiting for me.

So we decided, but I did eventually be like, you know,

you can go home if you want.

The problem is, is that we did figure when you said what the job was,

it was taking the red bumper off, changing a couple of vents,

putting it back on.

We thought hour.

Yeah.

Like hour and a half and absolute push.

What I thought was 20 minute job for a normal person.

For me, that makes it a 45 minute job because I'm an idiot.

So I reckon Ben's going to be about an hour.

Thoughts?

Longer.

Thoughts on a three and a half hour job.

It wasn't three and a half hours at all.

I would say you, I would say you begun bringing the car in here

around about half four quarter five.

It was five o'clock when you started the job.

We started this podcast at eight.

Yeah.

I'll call it.

Let's hours 45.

Yeah.

Let's go.

Let's let's round down.

Let's shake that.

Let's make a middle.

Ever happy?

Ever.

I'm happy.

I'm happy with that.

I'm not because it took two hours 45.

So overall, is it ruined just for that or any other reasons?

Oh, yeah.

Oil.

Yeah.

No, it's a weird one.

Again.

So the oil machine.

In your S2000.

Oh, the S2000, which is now in storage.

I just famously, I can't, I don't use anymore.

No, that's waiting around for.

So sorry.

The oil issue is not with the S2000.

No, the S2000 actually might have.

I haven't seen it for a few weeks, but it is.

It might.

It's always been sad.

Still go.

S2000 in storage.

The Gulf.

I had the other day.

I went to see my dad.

No way.

I was on the motorway for a while.

Shout out Ben's dad, who I know is listening.

Shout out my dad.

He does let us the podcast.

I went to go see him and I've been on the motorway for a while.

And suddenly I get a bing.

I was like, that's a weird thing in my car.

To have this car is meant to be reliable.

Check oil level.

I was like, okay.

Now I know GTD has gone on.

Now much poo fell out.

Well, because I remember Adam from Evolution Oil Works saying

that when you see the oil light, that means your engine is done.

But that's on the S2000.

Apparently, if you see the oil light.

It wasn't an oil light though, was it?

No, it's not like a.

No, not a pressure.

It was a red light.

Because on the S2000.

S2000 has a red light that comes on the oil.

And he said, when that comes up, engine got.

Because of pressure.

But on this, it says, when it's getting low, it goes,

when you are available.

Perhaps.

Just check it.

If you could, please.

We're here next doing it.

So, yes.

I was like, all right, cool.

I check out.

I got, I got to my dad's and I said,

I need to have a look at my car.

So I let it drain for like an hour or so.

And then not the oil.

You let it drain?

No, I didn't drain.

So I took the sun plug out, let it drain, then off our way again.

Then I checked the oil and it was no bloody oil.

Let it drain back into the sun for like an hour or so.

And then I checked it and it was,

I mean, it was probably lower than when we did it for the video.

Okay.

So it burned a little bit.

A little bit.

But we're talking like a hundred million in a thousand miles.

But it was on the dipstick.

On the dipstick.

That's where the improvement for you then.

Times 60,000 was pretty dry.

There is a redacted amount on that dipstick.

So I'm fine with topping up with oil.

I know they burn oil.

It's that's, you know, there's burning oil that has oil.

So that's what we always say.

But I filled it up and then that was on Saturday.

And then on the Monday, I drove here and I got here

and my car went oil and I went and then I panicked.

I was like, so we've got a catastrophic leak

or we've, we're burning like,

that's like 300 miles I've done since then.

So it's burning a lot of oil.

And I topped it up.

Cool.

Driving home that evening.

Oil light.

And I was like, no, no, no.

You not burn a half a liter of oil in like 30 miles.

That's crazy.

So I checked again.

Fine.

So I think it has the sensor is dead.

A classic, a classic thing.

Our ML 63 is doing the same thing right now.

So don't you worry about it.

I'm sure we'll hear about it next week

when it turns out that there was never any oil in the engine.

Best part is in the dipstick.

I thought the oil was just very clear and it was dry.

Turns out Ben was just taking the coolant gap off

and looking at there.

There's loads in there.

And my funnel room.

There's loads of oil in the coolant reservoir.

My funnel room is a weird one

and it's that the Gulf for some reason randomly,

when it's cold,

we'll just crank for upwards of five seconds

and go crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, crank,

and then like cough and then crank again and then start.

It is quite interesting.

We heard it earlier.

It could be an interesting one on the horizon for Ben.

That one earlier, right?

Because I've heard the other long ones.

I was like, it's not that bad.

That one earlier was, oh, you know,

sort of sat in a field five years,

but it's weird because it didn't.

So like it did all weekend.

No, last week it's done that was like beginning of last week

when I came here.

It hasn't done it since that,

like whenever I've been doing anything at home,

it hasn't done it.

But whenever I'm here.

It's stage fright with us.

I asked Ben, does it do it when it's cold?

And he went, no, it doesn't when it's warm.

I said, like how many times has it done it when it's warm?

And he went, well, no, it's mostly when it's cold.

And I said, but you just said it has done it when it's warm.

You know, it did do it when it's warm.

So I was like, so does it do it when it's warm or when it's cold?

I thought you meant...

No, no, it's pretty much just when it's cold.

No, basically, like it never does it.

Don't worry about it.

Because you think it's mechanics and mechanic.

I don't...

I cannot help you.

How do you want me to...

The thing that's weird about it is that it's not any...

It's not dependent on anything.

It just does it randomly.

So you could drive for an hour and then it will just do it

when you start up again or it could be sat overnight

or it could be 15 degrees outside or it can be minus two.

And it just doesn't matter.

So that's weird.

It just gets a bit stage fright.

It's just a little bit scared sometimes.

He's heard the stories from the SD 1000.

They were parked up together for a little bit.

That guy's been telling him all that sort of...

Look, he doesn't check the oil.

I've got nothing in me.

So you're still saying it's not always cold?

What?

Are we talking about temperature outside cold?

Outside.

But cold or warm?

Is it different?

Not really.

It's so random that it doesn't make any difference.

I can't speak your language.

Fair.

Neither can I.

I do not understand how to translate from Rogers to what I'm speaking.

To normal.

To English.

No, I don't know if it's normal.

Rogers to English to Google Translate.

Still data testing at the moment.

Shall we move over?

Well, Ben, you've put in here most commonly L cars.

Question mark.

I want to put a request out to the Creamers.

Here we go.

I want to hear from mechanics,

but specifically mobile mechanics or RACAA people,

people who get called out for breakdowns.

I want to know what is genuinely the car that...

Does he see how Ben does research?

This is what Ben is looking for a car that does not appear on this list.

No, I want to know.

He's got used to the Google AI, so he's like, right.

My problem with that data would be

is that you would probably be picking up the cars that are most commonly bought.

Of course.

And also, most commonly not maintained.

So what's the thing about dogs?

They are not just for Christmas.

The thing about dogs that kill or bite or hurt humans,

it's like if you took that data,

you'd have to get rid of Labradors or something.

That's because there's a million scurril in Labradors.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So there's bound to be a couple of instances where they bite of, you know,

child or eat a child or whatever.

Eat a child?

Yeah, they wouldn't put past them.

Labradors do eat cow shit.

So they'll eat anything.

Brackets, children.

But is it like that where you go,

oh, because you've had it before,

you've heard it from the cats,

go, oh, I'll get golfs in there all the time.

That's because everyone has golf.

Yeah, of course.

But I want to hear about...

Because you know, people go,

rain drivers, yeah, they always break or whatever it is.

I want to know what people who see all these cars breaking down,

I want to know what it is.

But I think my biggest thing would be that

that most of the cars you're seeing are the most poorly maintained ones.

Well, let's hear from them.

So I bet you it's going to be all of the BMWs and things

where people go, oh, wicked BMW.

And then they don't maintain it.

And then it breaks and they go, oh, I hate these cheap things.

Well, I want to hear from people.

Sure.

So that's to your DMs or like...

No, comment.

Do you want to give your number out?

No, I don't want to do that.

No, not that.

Can you just comment?

Okay, do you have a predetermined thoughts?

Like what?

I heard it was XC90, the new-ish one.

Is the...

Yeah, I've heard that somewhere.

And V90 and that platform apparently is very unreliable.

But I want to know what actually you see.

Because imagine if it is XC90, there's not that many.

What was the last car you saw broken down?

I saw...

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I saw one this morning.

Forget everything you know.

Do you want to see us in your own car?

I hope not.

I don't know.

It's such a variation.

A polo?

I never know.

That's what it is.

It's polo.

It's fiesta.

It's a golf.

It's something.

It's a chianero.

It's always something like that.

It's never...

Do you know what?

But then I also see a chian.

I'll also see someone in a Fomilunca, whatever it is.

I don't think it will.

Yeah, no, Jensen, mate.

Just to bring down the side of the road.

Now, do you know what?

It never is modified car.

I never see it.

I've never seen a broken down modified car.

Okay.

I've seen a modified car with a flat tire.

Modified cars, I often see sort of...

And normally they're...

You see, I say normal person.

Normal person broken down.

They're just sort of standing near the car, staring at it,

probably on the phone.

Modified car broken down is...

He's under the bonnet.

He's thinking, I'll fix this.

He might be doing an engine swap.

I know.

I just have to fix this.

Siding in the M40, he's like, you know what?

Let me just...

On the way to...

If there's an event somewhere...

Oh, okay.

You will often see a more littered...

No, yeah, you're right.

Littered with...

Yeah, you're right.

If there's an S15 or S4, probably a 13 or a 14,

bonnet up, trail of crap.

There's a focus down the road,

under trace somewhere back down the M40.

But you'll find a little pocket of trail of crumbs.

Yeah.

Leading you to an event.

Lovely.

I've never seen...

I have seen broken down modified cars,

but I've never seen one with an AA truck helping them,

or an RAC truck helping them.

It's always...

I have.

I've got this one.

You have?

It's me.

When my engine blew up on my...

Yeah, that's different now, isn't it?

That's different.

That was...

You know what?

If I could have repaired it, I would have...

If I could have run that guy on three cylinders,

we would have been off.

AA guy figured it might be.

Just to blend the intercooler pipe, mate.

You said that's probably just a boost pipe or something.

Sure that's not blown off?

Meanwhile.

Me looking at will through the block on the other side of the car.

So yeah, let us know AA men's and or recovery people's.

What are you recovering?

Who are you recovering?

Which car are you recovering the best?

And if you don't know, start a tally.

Start writing them.

Start recording it.

Make a file.

And in 10 years time, we'll ask this question again.

Because also, I don't want thoughts.

I don't want, oh, I think I've done no data.

I have done 63 golf mark falls.

And then can you break them down by model?

Like is it the 1.4?

One meter?

Is it a GTD?

Probably.

No oil in there.

No oil in it.

Just a nice mix of rainwater and oil.

What else have we got next?

We've got a misspelling from me.

Doug DeMure lowered cars and spacers.

Now Doug DeMure, he doesn't like talking about it.

Doug DeMure.

He likes just.

Doug DeMure.

He's very DeMure.

Yeah.

Because I mean DeMure.

Yes, it does.

Just to spell it.

When I typed it in, it obviously mistook me.

And now tell me this, would he be wearing shoes?

No, never.

No, I would not.

But Doug DeMure would.

Doug DeMure absolutely would be DeMure.

Never.

No shoes.

Trainer socks.

Anyway, he said on his podcast that I forgot the name of,

which could well be called.

The car pod or something.

Cars and Bids.

And I think it is actually possibly that.

Cars and Bids.

I think cars rule everything.

That might be one.

Can you ever live around me?

No, that's the best one though.

Yeah, no, that's what.

Is that the one that you should.

That's exactly it.

No, that's it.

That's the one you should.

I can't say it.

Don't want to subscribe.

Just subscribe.

So I saw a clip.

I don't listen to the podcast because I don't really listen to any podcasts.

Wow.

I don't.

I don't have the brain power.

This one.

Or the facility.

I don't listen to this.

Well, yeah.

I'm listening to it now.

No, exactly.

Right now you're on one.

I'm sure.

I mean, why I'd listen to it back.

Anyway, I saw a clip.

Doug DeMure were talking about.

They were talking about modified cars.

And Doug DeMure made a claim.

A bold claim.

You should always back up your claims.

Yep.

You should always back up your claims.

Never just state stuff without researching.

No.

And he said he's never, never seen a car that looks better

when it was lowered and spaced out.

That's quite literally the opposite.

That cannot be true.

Because I believe there is not a car on earth

that wouldn't look better with not full learning,

some amount of learning, and some amount of spacer.

I cannot think.

Even if I thought about this when I read it,

when I saw the clip, because it enraged me.

And I thought, like even a standard wheel,

if you lowered it and spaced out a bit,

you'd look at it and go, hang on a sec.

And the reason that that is a flawed argument

is because concept cars, they are lowered and spaced.

When they have to go to production,

they have to be lifted up and brought back in.

That is how it works.

The concept car is the coolest way of looking at that car.

That is objectively the best way.

Now, if he said lowered cars with spacers drive worse

than the standard one, fine, fine.

You have that, you can use that.

That is probably true in most cases,

if you haven't done other mods, blah, blah, blah.

But you cannot say every single car.

You've never seen one.

No, never.

You've never looked at an FATM3 that's a little bit lower,

a little bit spaced out on its standard wheels,

and it looks absolutely menacing.

Meanwhile, you want that.

That's because he wears no shoes.

That's it.

He looks at that and goes, well, you know,

why would I need to wear shoes?

You know what?

I've never seen a person wearing socks without shoes

and thought, that looks good.

Look, Doug DeMiro does have a kuntash.

And a 4GT.

I've seen it.

And there's some GT.

There's some GT.

And like, you know, lots of money and experience and knowledge.

But that claim, I don't know if it's rage bait,

but it really bugged me that.

Because you cannot say there's not even one car you've looked at.

That looked OK.

L. Also, the Grand Tour.

Also, Lancia versus Audi is in the Grand Tour.

Chopper.

It is the Grand Tour.

Let's carry on.

That's just a little inside joke.

MOT date, I've put in here.

Ben, you won't know about this.

I don't.

FRO is not out yet, is it?

I think, would you like me to tee this up?

Yeah, sure.

No, we can put a little teaser out there.

OK.

Now, we needed to MOT our fake Ferrari.

As you do.

On a normal Thursday.

On a normal Wednesday.

Apologies.

That's when we did.

That's when we had the MOT, but planned for Wednesday.

So, we, Monday and Tuesday, we spent the time repairing the car

and getting it ready for the MOT, our yearly inspection in the UK.

Now, on Wednesday morning, sorry, on Tuesday morning.

Wait, sorry?

Was it Wednesday?

The previous week, I booked it in for MOT.

Yeah, I set an MOT for Wednesday afternoon.

Yeah, for Wednesday afternoon.

So, we could do Monday Tuesday fix Wednesday MOT.

And we came in on Wednesday to fix the last bit.

And we were like, cool, the MOT is about one o'clock.

So, around about 12, we said, right, we should start packing up to leave.

And I was just doing some stuff at the front of the car.

And I heard Will go, huh?

Nah, and then started laughing.

And I said, what is it?

And he said, I booked the MOT for Wednesday.

Then which Wednesday was it for?

Well, last Wednesday would have been the 12th.

Yeah, it was for the 6th of March.

Okay, that's good.

It was the 11th that I desired, and I got the 6th of March.

Now, in my humble defence, the place I booked it with,

the next date available was Wednesday.

And I just figured that would be the next Wednesday.

Which you would, of course you would.

I didn't think it would be a Wednesday.

That at time of booking was five weeks away.

Yeah, but you did also book it through a very large and well-known...

Somewhere where you got your alignment done, I believe.

Indeed.

Yeah, sort of.

Which is a bit, the best thing is, I like the idea that Will looked at

not the number below the Wednesday,

or not the month above the number or the Wednesday.

Just went, yeah, Wednesday, that sounds about right.

How can you have five weeks booked out of MOTs?

How can you have 52 Wednesdays in a year?

Should be just one, shouldn't there?

Five weeks.

Wednesday.

Ahead.

You mean 6th of February.

Sorry, you mean 11th of February.

You mean Wednesday.

That's the Wednesday.

I still need to cancel that.

So, if anyone wants an MOT in the sort of Wokingham area...

Forest.

It's just one going.

It's not paid for.

You still have to pay for it.

But that was annoying.

As we know, they're pretty booked out.

And I worried for a second because I thought,

hang on a second, if I've missed that and it's four weeks, five weeks away,

we've got no chance getting an MOT.

No, I'll book one that evening for the next morning.

So, who, in their right mind, has five weeks booked up of MOTs?

Are they app...

Are they the...

Are they like 100% part-time?

It's, you know, like when you go on holiday,

if you book it further in advance, you get a discount.

You get a pass.

Exactly.

You get a pass.

You ring up the night before and they go,

yeah, we can get you in, but we will follow you.

Yeah, that was silly.

And almost...

Oh, it didn't matter in the end, which you'll see.

So, anyway.

Don't worry about it.

Then news.

I want you to be prepared for this one.

Sure.

It's the new Alpina logo.

You guys don't know nothing.

There's a new Alpina logo.

No way.

It's more flat.

There's less detail.

There's no color.

That looks the same to me.

It does look the same to me.

Pull up the old one.

It's got a keyboard and a set of binoculars on it.

Are they a keyboard?

It's just different.

That's a bit of a phone.

What is that on the right?

Okay.

Lovely little silence for our YouTube for our audio listeners.

I don't know.

It looks more Jenga.

Nope.

Not Jenga.

One more try, if you may, please.

Giant Jenga.

No, it's a crankshaft.

Oh, a crankshaft.

Okay.

But the other one does look like a crankshaft.

The new one does not.

No.

It kind of looks a bit like wingdings or hieroglyphics.

A little bit on the right-hand side.

You know what?

It's recognizable as Alpina, the new logo.

So what's the point?

They've BMW-ified it.

Although this is the version of it and it is black and white.

I believe it's like the BMW one where it's-

I don't agree with that.

The official, I can't see anything that's not that.

That's what I saw.

So they've taken the color out of it.

I don't know.

Which was actually quite noticeable, Alpina.

I have another photo here that has-

So for audio listeners, it's the Alpina logo,

basically modernized, just much more simple.

I haven't seen that one.

I only saw the black and white one.

But I don't know if the bit where it says Alpina, that ring.

Isn't it a piece of see-through like it is on BMW now?

Right.

I'm not sure.

But either way, because they own them now fully,

it's very recognizable.

It's- I don't really see why you needed to do it.

It's a small, it's not the end of the world,

because it's kind of looks, it's still roughly the same.

If you didn't tell anyone, I doubt many people,

and it would still have the blue and red in it.

People probably wouldn't even know.

No.

It looks like they've been the BMW logo now,

like dimensions-wise.

Because if you look at the original one,

it has a crest in the middle, where it's just a circle.

Now, what I'm interested to know is, as Alpina has bought-

Sorry.

Alpina has bought BMW breaking use.

They hit a reverse card on that.

No.

Now that BMW owns Alpina, will the badges start becoming,

will the badge now be an Alpina badge on the back?

Or will it stay BMW?

I would like that.

You, I would not, I would prefer that.

No, why?

Because I don't like the big Alpina lettering on the rear.

No, probably still have that.

Well, I get rid of that.

I will agree with you on that.

I don't like the Alpina writing,

but I would like it just to have BMW.

No, but then you don't have that.

No, I prefer that.

I want Alpina.

I want people who know I've got something different.

Just stripe up the side.

Yeah.

Says Alpina.

Your, your, what was it called?

Decorative stripe.

That's what I call that.

Yeah.

Nice.

Your stripe, sir.

Your stripe marks the way.

Your 13th stripe marks the way.

What next?

Next, another one from you, Ben.

Unsure how to word this other than the way you've written it.

Mark Gray.

Unmolested.

Yes.

We, I received a message from a man named Mark Gray.

And I will pull it up right now.

And I'm not stalling to find it.

I'm just going to pull it up.

Here is Mark Gray message.

Just listen to podcast 69 brackets.

Oi, Oi.

Another word to share.

Unmolested.

Seeing as molested can either mean to assault or harass someone.

I've never heard anyone label themselves or anything else as unmolested.

The equivalent use of the automotive interpretation of the word would be to

absent bodily modifications and would see people describe themselves

as unmolested on dating apps, etc.

Basically.

What?

Because they don't have tattoos or like paintings?

So what you're saying is, you know, we were talking about words that are only using cars.

You use the phrase perish.

No, of course, yeah.

Which, you know, upsets some people.

Oh, some people were very upset.

Brackets, it's a joke podcast.

And Mark Gray has said that another word that is never used outside is unmolested.

Yeah, I would say that could be the king.

I think his example he was saying was that, you know, you would put a livery in your car

and you'd make the headlights purple and someone describe that as a molested example of that big.

But you would never do that.

You'd never say it was a molested car, but you would say it's an unmolested car.

So he was saying that the body equivalent would be like having no tattoos

or no modifications visually.

So, okay.

So that's one to add to the list.

So we have an unmolested example.

Shod in ditch finders.

Shod in perished ditch finders.

But unmolested is it.

It's true.

Wherever I read the word, I'm always slightly uneasy.

Yeah, it's weird.

It should not be used with cars.

It's just a weird thing to use.

Also, if you're not using it with cars, you're probably not using it elsewhere.

That's what he's saying.

Let's just get rid of the word.

Yeah, he's saying that you would never refer to anything else in life.

We need molested.

We need that as a word.

Legally.

Like we need that word.

Unmolested, it's sort of...

Well, if it's not that, it kind of is this.

Also, when would you specify in any other time it's unmolested,

you sort of say that it is or it isn't?

Yeah.

Do not I feel like it might...

It feels a bit American.

It's like, I need you to know it's not.

So I'm going to give you a word for it.

Do you know what?

I would like to know the first person to float that idea.

Like everyone's looking at car and they're like,

it's a bit tattty, it's a bit ropey.

So I went, I think mine's unmolested.

Everyone, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Why would you...

Don't say that.

He's absolutely molested that car, isn't he?

That's terrible.

I wouldn't molest my car.

Well, no, mine's unmolested.

It's clean.

That's something I can't tell you.

Oh, no.

Right.

There, no, molested.

Unmolested even, sorry.

That one will be added to the cream dictionary of cars.

That's number one for me, unmolested.

Not a nice word at all.

March the 7th.

Just after the MOT date.

Of the big week.

That's a big week for cars.

It is a big, big day.

Now it's T37 day.

Officially.

I should not look into this.

I thought I should.

I should know about this, but I didn't.

A T37.

What was a T37?

A T37 is the wheel.

God's wheel.

Yeah, it's wheel.

It is the aftermarket wheel that works on all cars ever, forever.

Doug DeMiro, never find one.

Doug DeMiro wouldn't even stand it off set with a flat face.

Not a single car would look better with a T37.

That ball road height.

The king's all right.

To celebrate the 30th anniversary of Volk Racing T37,

March 7th has been officially recognised as T37 day by the Japan Anniversary Association.

Sorry, hold on.

There's a public holiday.

It's a public holiday.

I don't think...

But it's an officially recognised day.

It is an officially recognised day.

Is it a bank holiday?

I don't think it's going to be a bank holiday.

That's the most Japanese thing.

Yep, so a whole day for this wheel.

So apparently in 2026, the T37 enters its 30th anniversary year

with special edition models, exclusive commemorative items, and more to come.

So I mean, a minor piece of news, but also how crazy is that?

Like, are we doing that here?

You know what, that just proves it is the wheel.

No, RPF1's not getting that.

No one's ringing up Enki.

Now, I'm sorry, Ben, but no one's ringing them up and going,

no, mate, this is a big birthday.

30th, mate.

What are we doing for your 30th?

And the Japanese government go, let's do a big party.

Let's go mental.

And RPF1, would surely get like an hour.

Oh, yeah, he might get an hour.

Yeah, I'm saying his mom's ringing him.

His mom's ringing him.

She's saying it's a lovely birthday.

Yeah, exactly.

He's loved.

He might have some mates take him out for a dinner.

Oh, yeah.

And there's a cake.

Everyone's singing and everyone else in the restaurant will give a wheel.

It's a lightweight cake.

Yes.

I don't know what that means.

The wheels are light?

Yes, exactly.

That's the one.

Are they?

March the 7th.

Oh, you're on holiday, Ben, but it's a Saturday.

Are you off to Japan?

Are you going off to the party?

Am I off that day?

No, I am.

Actually, I'm away.

Anybody who's a Volk distributor, hit me up because I want the commemorative staff.

That's cool.

Also, perfect cake size.

I might, yeah.

Perfect cake shape.

Sorry, a wheel.

I might chuck my T-37s on the beat for its birthday.

Happy birthday, mate.

March the 7th, T-37 day.

I would like to see the United Kingdom match that with something else.

Anyone who's got any ideas, leave an idea in the comments.

Well, we could have, like, we could have Reliant Robin Day.

Yep.

Pine Mash.

That's not a car.

That's just a food.

That's British, though.

Yeah, but it's not food.

They're not car related.

So, that has to be car related.

Because Pine Mash in the car.

Pine Mash Day probably exists.

Yeah.

Shall I look it up?

No, it probably does exist, but in terms of cars.

Now, what if it's March 7th?

Then we'll be torn.

Do you know how we have towns in the UK that are twinned with French towns and Belgian towns?

That's how our holidays are, Belgium.

Pine Mash Day, twinned with T-37 day.

Here we go.

I'm not joking.

No, go away.

Pine Mash Week takes place from Monday the 10th of March, the 16th of March.

So, we can just squeeze in.

It's just after.

So, obviously, T-37 day was chosen specifically because they went,

well, we don't want to mess around with Pine Mash Day.

Let's not step on anyone's toes here.

They went, I hope that doesn't mess with Pine Mash Day.

And they went, hang on.

Pine Mash has a whole week.

It's a week.

Just go in just before.

Is everyone on the come down from the T-37s?

It makes sense though.

Straight into Pine Mash.

I went into Pine Mash Week.

Oh, TSW Venom Week.

Venom Week.

That's it for the UK.

Or, you know, one of those days would just be lovely.

If we can get a Max Power Monday.

Bank Holiday, Max Power.

But, you know, there's legs in this.

Cream podcast needs to be deciding these sort of bank holidays.

Let us know.

English government.

Also, your taxing break pads.

What are you up to?

Also, Pine Mash Week.

Be there.

Shout out.

Be there.

Weeks.

It's wild.

If you think about it, what, like, T-37s are good,

but Pine Mash is probably better.

Yeah.

I think probably it's been around a lot.

They've been around a lot.

How many Pine Mash has stayed in, you know, people?

Also, Pine Mash doesn't cross like eight grand.

No, sure.

Yeah.

Well, that's the whole point.

It's meant to be afforded with dinner.

And you can get loads of specs as well.

Pine Mash.

All sorts.

Doug DeMiro might be OK with Pine Mash.

We don't know that for sure.

But I reckon he's a two-mash-one-pie kind of guy.

And that's that.

That's crazy.

Next up, we have a DM.

We've actually had this DM multiple times now,

but I'm going to name the man who I saw first.

Also, I haven't responded to that, DM.

That's the lovely still words.

That's a classic cream move.

James Foxen or Fox on?

The B&Q decap.

Now, B&Q is a...

Block and quail.

Is a shop?

Yeah, that's what it is.

It is a hardware store.

It's like the Home Depot.

If you bought pineapple loaves.

Or some orange.

You can get tools in there.

Sure.

You can get wood in there.

You can get light switches.

You can get whatever the hell you like.

Just kind of building it in your house or your garden.

You're going to buy it.

If it's wood based...

You probably don't think about cars.

No.

I've gone in there for tools.

Occasionally.

Gardening.

I did say that twice.

I did do that.

Did you?

Yeah.

And they have gardening.

Yeah.

I think they might have gardening in there.

But what they have on their website...

Is gardening.

Is not gardening.

Now, also, the most they kind of stem into cars is nuts and bolts.

Yeah.

You can go and get yourself an M10 nut.

But someone's found something interesting.

You know, they sell decap pipes.

This...

The one in particular is for a Mark V, Mark VI, and also Shiroko,

and Gulf, 2-liter GTI decap pipe.

And a bunch of people have also said there are other decap pipes on the B&Q website.

Now, I did some research, and I have noticed this from my other escapades on B&Q,

is that they don't just sell what they sell in the shop online.

They just sell random drop-shipped random items.

It's like, oh, you would like a poster of the Mandalorian.

You can have that.

The B&Q.

I don't know about that.

I made that one up.

But it's potentially...

But they have decap pipes.

They have all sorts of just random...

I'm going to assume Chinese.

B&Q right now, listening to the podcast.

Right.

Get a poster of the Mandalorian in right now.

But I want to know, was this an accident?

Someone went, put the decap pipes.

Metal pipes, where do we put those?

Put them with the other metal pipes.

Do not.

I have a theory.

Every time you see a car video in the UK of people doing faux takeovers,

you know, it's a car park meet.

Everyone's doing skids.

Everyone's doing doughnuts and flipping cars and crashing them.

Where is it?

Being a car park.

It's a B&Q car park.

So surely they're looking at the security camera at first going,

see a lot of vag stuff there.

See a lot of decap pipes.

And if it's going to be sold stuck on Monday.

Ben has sent me the link on the screen, please.

Ben has sent me the link.

Don't look at it.

Just look at the link on the screen.

It's going to be on B&Q website for a little look at...

On B&Q.

For audio listeners, Ben has just gone on TV B&Q website and found the Mandalorian

the hyperspace post that actually proves the point.

Because it says they're available online only and not stocked in B&Q stores.

And they're being sold by NiceBanyan UK Limited.

Available online only and not stocked in B&Q stores.

So you cannot yet walk into a B&Q and buy a decap.

Which I think is...

That's got to change.

It needs to change.

Name me one more random item.

Could I get...

T-Voc T37 replica.

Oh, don't finna do those.

No, but this is what I'm asking.

Is it essentially just now Aliexpress?

I think that's what it looks like.

Because they're just selling other people's stuff without actually stocking it.

I found many tools on there.

I'm like, oh, B&Q has it.

And I'll go on there and think, great.

I can go down to B&Q and pick it up.

And it went...

Yeah, you can have it in March 6th.

Yeah, March 11th.

About March...

Ben, can we see if there's anything Pie and Mash related?

Thank you.

Pie and Mash B.

It's just an actual pie.

B&Q...

Oh, lots of nice photos.

No, but they have steak and chips treats.

Okay, love dogs.

Treats for dogs.

What have we got next?

Next up...

Sorry, I need to close my B&Q page.

Hold on.

Sorry, I'm about to buy a March 6th Golf D-Cat.

Also, just a crazy thing to approve.

Yeah, D-Cats.

You literally aren't meant to.

No, you shouldn't.

It's a race car thing.

You really shouldn't.

Edwin, you've put a Ventus engine.

What's all that?

What's all this?

This is just a random little tidbit of information.

I was doing research on something.

I don't...

Look, my travels take me far and wide on the Internet.

Did you know that Toyota ran a BMW engine in their Ventus?

It is essentially the N47, which is Ben's diesel 4-cylinder.

47?

N47 is the timing chain guy.

Is the small guy of the...

4-cylinder, 2-litre, 4-cylinder diesel.

There you go.

Tell them the truth.

Now, it's not the exact engine, but it is related to it.

They ran it in Toyota.

How far does the rabbit hole go?

What is BMW?

BMW is on a generational run of just sneaking engines into things.

Sorry, you're telling me a Toyota of Ventus,

and I'm supposed to know that has a BMW engine in it?

There's the one that he's got in his jacket.

He opens his jacket up and inside it.

He's like, you McLaren, do you want a V12?

Yeah, I've got one of them.

Are you Mercedes?

Do you want a new 4-cylinder?

Yeah, we'll get you one of them.

You want a straight 6?

It does 800 horsepower.

Yeah, you've got one of those.

Do you want to put it in a sort of defender-looking recreation?

Run it.

Wack it in that.

We've got one of those for you.

They've got something for everyone.

Something literally something for everyone.

It's BMW.

They're just in the market going, come on, roll up.

We've got 6 cylinders, 4 cylinders, 8 cylinders, 10 cylinders,

wherever you want.

We've got it.

Greengrocers who are just trying to shift the last bit of stock.

Come on, we've got some N47s.

Surely one of you want a Toyota, come here.

Vice-man, have you come?

Yeah, we've got some NV10s.

Lovely and a manual gearbox.

Really quite good at that.

But it's just another one that surprised me.

So we run a Mercedes out here.

Also the Toyota, like early doors before the Supra.

Well, right around that, it was about 2015.

So just that, that's the beginning of our relationship

when everyone started moaning about the music of BMW engine,

Toyota going, well, actually,

did put an N47 in an Aventus.

And none of you knew.

And none of the purists moaned then, did you?

Although I typed it in on Google, Toyota Aventus BMW engine.

The first thread was a Toyota Aventus forum,

with all of them complaining about it.

Which is quite nice.

They're all saying it's...

Tommy James failed.

Tommy James is burning oil, which is, you know...

Toyota is BMW.

Sorry, what do you mean burning oil?

I don't know what that means.

What is that supposed to be?

That's 2000 though, sort of only one.

Leave my cars alone.

Right, I'd like to talk about the crew plate.

Now, in the UK, we have everything called the DVLA auctions.

You can buy private blumber plates that are just available on the DVLA site.

But you also have the auctions where

number plates go and sell for a million pounds each or whatever.

And they're usually either something that has returned to the system

that they know is worth a lot, or something that someone has requested.

And someone did request something.

And that someone is me.

I requested a plate.

When looking on the DVLA site, it had CR 11 EAM.

It's nice.

It says cream.

11 is the shortest amount of digits you can get with two digits.

It's actually, in some cases, shorter than one small nerd fact.

So I thought that would be perfect.

That would be absolutely perfect.

And I requested it.

And I thought, who's going to want a cream plate?

For some reference, plates are usually...

They're not generally dictated by length.

But the length of the plate normally means how expensive it gets.

If it gets shorter, five-digit plates are that cheap,

depending on what they say.

And then three and four and two and whatever,

they get very, very expensive.

So I thought, this is CR 11 EAM is a normal number plate.

It may have been on a car.

I have no idea.

But it was available to request.

It's like bid £250.

Where do you think that bid is right now, Benjamin?

£700.

£2,110, I believe, at this current stage.

And you requested this.

So some...

So you know what?

We were saying this in the car that it's quite funny.

You go on the DVLA auction site,

and you see a plate that you like for you,

and you're like, that's cool.

And so you start bidding on it.

Forgetting the fact that some poor person went,

I really want this plate for me.

So Will's done that.

Will's requested this plate.

And now some chopper's just bidding us up on this plate.

I put my own max bid on it of £1,000.

I thought it won't go higher than that.

No one's going to want that,

but that should guard me against anything else.

Bear in mind, that's not the final fee.

You have VAT, you have an assignment fee,

you have their auction fee,

plus 20% VAT on top of the auction fee as well.

So it gets...

Once it gets into big numbers like that,

the fees are adding a load on.

So that's not far off sort of coming up three grand.

So I'm just very upset.

Now, if...

One thing I'd like to say, it may not be.

It may be the owner of a cream magnate.

A nice cream...

Could be a cream magnate.

Cream magnate.

We don't know if we know...

Someone who's part of a cream distillery,

or whatever you might call it.

Or a cream dynasty.

They are the creamer.

Mr. Cream, if you will.

Mr. Cream, the original.

Who wants this plate?

Yeah, and if you are bidding on it,

or you have bought it,

and we've received a message that says,

I want this plate.

Do you want to buy it for five grand?

You can stick it exactly where the sun doesn't shine,

because we will not be buying that plate for many months.

We will not.

But if you want to buy it for yourself,

then I'm sorry that I've bid you up.

Yeah, fair.

I bid you up.

I mean, it's just a lot of money.

But I do really want that plate.

It could be, by the time the podcast goes out,

that I might have bought it,

but I'm going to doubt it,

because it's a lot of money.

Because it's two grand.

Yes, it's basically three grand.

So there's not many other cool...

There's another plate, the C12 EAM,

which if you are a near-dwell,

you could space it illegally,

and it would look exactly like cream.

But I believe that's on a transit van.

Lovely.

So if anyone knows a transit van owner

with cream on their plate,

the app that is in the numbers,

not just physical cream.

I'll pay you £500 to steal it.

I also found out recently that the plate

that I was looking at for myself,

that disappeared from the DLA website,

lives near Ben.

Yeah, Ben said,

Oh, I found this plate the other day.

It was one of the best pub I had.

We were actually walking...

Sorry, OK.

I've driven past that plate a lot.

Every time, I think,

I'll send it to Will at some point.

And it's been...

I'm genuinely going to say a year,

since I first saw it.

And because it disappeared,

I want to say, well,

in the last couple of years, basically,

I've been watching it,

and I thought, I don't really want to...

I think it was £400.

I didn't really want to buy it.

But eventually,

I'd like to be that penis who has all of...

A very variation.

I have W11 GCC.

I would love W1 GCC.

I had W6 GCC,

but I lost that to the ether.

And W14,

because that's the day I was born,

the 14th of Wednesday.

And a 14th of March.

That's a Wednesday.

Yeah, that's a very nice day.

Yeah, crazy.

The best part is,

Ben explained this,

we were walking to lunch,

and it was the most sarcastic thing.

Ben went,

Oh, I haven't seen that plate for so long.

And Will stopped in the middle of a car park

and loudly went,

What?

He went,

Really?

You haven't?

And I was like,

Got in the car.

He got in the car and was still saying,

Oh, you're being serious right now.

And you're quite upset, weren't you?

I was quite upset,

because again,

that was,

I was watching,

I'm not going to say which ones I'm watching.

People are going to figure it out now.

Great.

I've lost all these plates.

But anyway,

and that was the one that vanished.

That was the only one that seemed to vanish.

And now you know where it is.

I'll send you a photo when I next drive past it.

No, could you just ask him?

I can if you want.

Just ask him,

say,

Excuse me,

how much do you want for that?

It's not like a van.

I know that they paid £400 or £399 with it.

That's including no fees or anything.

That's straight up.

$398.

Okay.

Keep them guessing.

Start getting the negotiations.

Keep them humble.

Exactly.

Retentioned.

What I do want to say

is these auctions,

I don't think it's possible to buy a cheap,

a decent plate that's cheap.

There are people like you've heard

talking about in the past.

Yeah, I got this cool plate.

It cost me £3.80 from the auctions.

It seems like those auctions are just filled

with people just bidding and bidding.

They don't want to make a profit on it,

they're so desperate for that plate,

they'll pay whatever.

They are all thousands and thousands and thousands

and thousands of pounds.

There are none that are like,

oh, you're just going to pay

$300 or $500.

They are all thousands.

I was convinced that plate would just be cheap.

But I guess also we missed out.

I think we talked about it a while ago.

We missed out on an Inky Donk plate.

That was really upsetting.

Yeah, that was my fault.

It was N100, NKY.

So it was Nyonky and it was so good.

And we just forgot to bid.

N1, NKY would be perfect.

How about you check that out?

I think it's not available.

But either way, that's the thing,

the way it doesn't make any sense.

There's other plates I've requested as well.

I look it up and it's not on a car.

Yeah.

It's not on a car.

So how do I get this?

Surely some, there's got to be a DVLA crema

who can get us on the inside.

I want V10YLO.

That would be cool to go with.

I search for it immediately after the Clio plate.

It turns out it's not there.

Now, Ben, we talked about this before,

but B3N or something?

That's your ultimate plate.

8EN.

I saw it there, Ben.

8EN, that's the one.

But what is your other plate?

Do you like the idea of?

I always wanted what I have.

I have F25BOR.

Oh, I've no idea where that car is.

It's right here.

Where is it?

I haven't seen it for a while.

It's right behind me.

On the bumper that I took off.

Yeah.

That was easy.

I would like, mine is not very good, BOR.

I don't like them.

I would like that, but BR.

What, F25BOR?

Mm-hmm.

Is that possible?

No.

No, it's not.

Oh.

You could have two numbers and then two letters.

So, you could have like 85BOR or BR85.

When were you born?

You know, 98?

Would you like to look at my plate?

Work it out.

2025?

That's crazy.

Right over 25th.

Now, what year?

2002.

Okay, here, look.

So, you can't have that.

So, you'd have 02 wouldn't work, no?

I got that.

That's February 25th, BOR.

Is that what that means?

I didn't know that.

I thought it was a random assault.

I don't care.

It feels a little bit.

Right, random flex.

Because I don't even care about it.

I wanted some, I don't know.

I just wanted something that, I want a plate that was like my plate that I put on every

day that I had.

And then that came up and I thought, that's my initials.

And then I thought, I was born.

That's what I was born.

That's going to be my number plate.

I know a guy who says that there's not a single private number plate on earth that he likes.

It's called Doug.

He just hates all of us.

He's very demure.

There's not a single reason you'd ever put a private plate on.

I've never seen one that looks good.

Never seen a private plate in my life.

I do feel like a penis when I consider private plates.

I'm too far deep now.

I like it.

It's cool.

I'm the same.

I used to be the same.

Oh, I bought one.

You said the Clio video is out.

Yeah.

We joked in the video that the 125 Newton meters that we were supposed to talk it to,

we were too scared.

Yeah.

So we talked it to 110.

So, and then I wanted a plate for my Clio and you can't have like Will has CL10,

because that is for a 2010 car or newer.

My Clio is from 2001.

But you can have C11, which is an old style plate.

That's from the 80s.

So I bought C11O and then you can have two letters.

So it says Clio, two letters.

Can't have my initials.

Can't have anything else funny.

So I bought CL, sorry, C11ONM.

So it just says Clio and M or C110 Newton meters.

So I will set off camera.

It's quite funny if it never goes wrong.

If it does blow up and eat itself, then it's a bit stupid.

You're going to be on the on the hard shoulder and you're going to be already annoyed and you're

going to finally come out the engine bend.

You're going to step back and look at the car and you're going to look at that plane go.

You're an idiot.

So now I'll just let I'll do it.

When the tuner does it on the diner, it's his fault.

Just keep a torque wrench, you know, nearby, have it set to 110 and just always click it up.

Just buzz it back up.

Keep going up and you and me every time you go 111, 112 and eventually, you know,

we might make that 125.

You haven't seen that part of the video yet because you haven't said over a draft of it.

But you haven't finished it.

You haven't finished it.

I have finished it.

You said you don't last week.

I have finished it.

I just haven't sent it over.

Some stuff to do to it.

But that section is very funny.

I didn't realize when we were filming it, just how scared you were.

Yeah, I was.

There are points where Edwin, he just doesn't know what to say.

So just make some noise.

One bit where he goes into talking and then just screams.

It's in the video.

I remember looking at him thinking, did that happen?

Yeah, I was scared, man.

Because if it broke, that video wouldn't go out.

That card would still be sitting on that lift.

Meanwhile, my other cards would still be working.

Yeah, exactly.

Great character.

So you know what?

There was silver linings to all clouds, I believe.

So that's private number plates.

That's private plates.

Is it?

I thought before we end on a forum, which Ben is currently searching for right now,

off camera.

Yeah, he's definitely searching for it off camera.

We would also do a one of the week because we haven't done that for a while.

And there is always one of the week.

It's not because we don't do it every week.

Not do it every week because we don't have them.

Probably because we have too many of them.

Yeah, seeing as you brought it up.

Run it.

I have to.

Okay, I'm not really allowed.

You shouldn't really do that by him.

Focus RS Mark 1.

It's still there.

I still want it.

If I don't end up buying one, I'm going to regret it.

I'm going to be very upset.

I have a yearning for a Ford if I'm honest.

I have been looking at Mark 2 as well,

but there's slightly too much money.

But the escort Cosworths and stuff still just wait too much money and always will be.

But I feel Mark 1 RS is just in that perfect range at the moment.

I think you probably missed the boat on the really good cheap ones.

Yeah.

I think you could get a modified one or a slightly, you know,

higher owner or a high mile one and sort it out yourself.

And you'd end up with a very solid,

solid car to own for the future that will invest.

The other thing is an F10M5.

Yeah.

Is it?

Are you all the way back?

Yeah, it's...

Oh, man.

That's such a good car.

It's such a wheel car.

I don't know what I did.

And also, you never even knew Will when he had the F10.

I found that he once when you had that.

No, you meet him every day, mate.

Unfortunately, that is the truth.

Where you at?

What's that show called?

What's it called, Will?

The First Mountwood.

No.

No, you weren't there.

Okay.

That would have been the only possible time.

I think there might have been a crossover.

You just asked Ben if he'd come to a car show.

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, I forgot that.

That's not a car show.

No, no, no.

Interesting.

What was the weeb?

Only if there's wads of cash involved.

It was a charity event, Ben.

Horrible.

When was that?

That was...

I can't remember how long ago.

It was a what?

Was that during a TDC?

Was it a 40C?

So, F10M5.

F10M5, it's just so...

I mean, an F90M5 is probably a better car.

That's the generation after its four-wheel drive.

The interior is way nicer.

But I just don't think they look as good.

And the sound is the same, because the engine's roughly there.

But that, with some very simple modifications,

are just one of the best cars ever made.

I actually think after many years of people avoiding them,

or just not even thinking about them,

they might be thought of as possibly the best M5.

I agree.

I know people will say E39, because it's the manual one,

and it's not too heavy, and it's still got good engine.

But that, in terms of doing what an M5 is meant to do...

...does all of it unbelievably well.

I...

And I think better than any E39.

I have said it before, that when I drove your...

You gave me your M5 for like a week.

I don't think I've ever been as happy driving a car in my life.

And that was right around the time that a good friend of mine

lent me his E39 M5 for a week.

And I was...

In the E39, I was like, this is cool.

I get it.

It's retro.

I like retro stuff.

I wasn't expecting to care about the F10M5.

It's just the most fantastic car on earth.

Because also, if you like doing a skid,

it's the best thing in the world.

It will just do the longest slides

in the most controllable manner you've ever seen.

And I had that at the same time alongside a 730D.

So an older car, but it's a 7 series.

And I would 9 times out of 10 choose the M5,

just because it was 7 series in nature

in the way that you could bomb up and down the right way.

And it was comfortable.

But then you could also do the ridiculous thing.

I do think...

I spoke to my dad about this because he didn't like that car.

I bought...

Not didn't like it, but he doesn't care about it as much.

But he didn't do the mods.

I bought the car from him.

He did a couple of mods, but not that much.

So he's like, I didn't really care about it.

But there's a couple of bits that just made that car exciting,

which was, you know, the downpipes, lowering it, spacers.

Oh, it's much too dark.

Horrible.

But they're just...

I look back at pictures of it.

I just think, that was such a good car.

They do scare me now, though, because mine was actually...

It was good.

It was low miles and it was actually quite expensive at the time.

So I never had any issues with it.

But now I see...

I'm still in the group and you can see them getting older,

100,000 miles plus.

They start needing rod bearings and valve stem seals and little things,

age-related things that make them very scary buys.

Yeah.

Even more so in some ways than the V10 M5s.

Yeah.

Like there's the what's called the valve stem seals thing.

Smoking.

Is our friend Uvis from Ultimate Velocity.

He'll tear apart a V10 like he doesn't care.

You could give him the biggest issue to do with a V10 and I'll go,

That's fine.

You tell him about doing valve stem seals on an F10 and he goes,

could you take that to someone else?

Is there anyone else?

Sure.

Could do that.

Scrap it.

Also, it's the noise it makes.

It's not, it's a V8, but it's not like all other V8s.

It's not like the, even any other BMW V8.

It's not like an AMG V8.

It makes a very specific noise.

But I think I think it's related to the,

the exhaust manifold and the hot V in a few other bits,

but it has that almost McLaren sort of much higher end V8 noise

where it's not a deep grumble, like grumble.

It's just got, it's so good.

And we're down pipes.

The all big.

The spools.

That'd be lovely.

And they're getting cheap.

I have said, I've said the same on moving on to mine.

I, to be fair to both of Will's cars,

cars that I've said I would like to own at some point in my life.

I don't know.

I think the prices are getting too much for me on a Mark 1 RS.

So I think I don't, I'm not sure I have a will.

An F10 M5, I will own.

I will own an F10 M5 as well.

But this week, firstly, one that drove past me yesterday,

weekend yesterday and I was just out in town and I heard

a noise, an unmistakable noise.

And what was behind me, but a TVR Tuscan.

And there aren't many cars, when we drive a car,

like the Corvette Z06, I know you love it, the C606.

And I'd like to own one.

But one can drive past me and I'll go, yeah, it's the Z06.

Every time I see a Tuscan, I'm sad that I don't own one.

Like I'm legitimately like, man, same exact feeling.

What color?

It was the sword, flesh blue.

It wasn't sword, flesh, blue, blue.

It was like a silvery blue.

That was similar to this, but it was silver and blue.

It was on getting onto the A404, just coming off the M40.

Perhaps the same car then.

But yes, that car, I have the same feeling with the Delta.

I'm sad that I don't have it.

That's my only feeling looking at it.

So that I have a really weird want for an Alpha GTV6.

Now, when I say that, I'm talking about the late 70s and 80s GTV6,

the James Bond GTV6, not the 90s, 2000s one.

I think they call it a Type 116.

We've been talking the next series that we do,

two car series, we want to buy Italian cars.

Spoiler.

And drive them to Italy, they're going to be cheap ones.

I need Italian.

I need Italian, of course, like Jack Harlow says.

And my dream is to buy a GTV6, but it needs to be a V6,

not you can get a four-cylinder.

So a bit of a small shout out.

If anybody knows of a UK, what spends...

Can we get one?

I don't know how much they are.

Are they in the budget of what the video is?

It would need to be a rough one.

That's not good.

No, it's not.

And it's not from AO.

No.

Yeah, no, exactly.

The best ones are rough.

So, yeah.

So if anybody in the UK, it doesn't actually need to be in the UK.

If anybody just knows of a running, driving Alpha GTV6,

or an Alfette of GTV6, the same chassis.

Similar continent would be...

Yeah, just not like America or Australia.

If you can be like mainland Europe within a couple of hours drive.

No, no.

But there's not Africa.

Yeah, that's Morocco.

Yeah, maybe Morocco.

If you've got GTV6 and Morocco.

But I just keep having dreams of that, of this is okay tech.

They do these wheels and they make them look like that.

I want it.

That's Busso V6.

Busso V6.

No, two and a half is the most of them.

And then in South Africa and some other country,

they got three litre V6s, which have a bigger bonnet scoop.

But that, I just did something about that.

And I know what would happen.

We buy it for the channel and I buy it personally.

I'd buy it afterwards because it's just cool.

So, GTV6 for me, Benjamin, we've given you so much time.

So many thinkings.

I would like a Clio.

No way.

No, he's not allowed.

Not a, not a 1.2.

Just a base model.

How would you have 1.2?

Yeah, just a campus actually.

Yeah, dynamic.

Yeah.

A 197 or a 200.

I don't know.

After 1.8.2, it becomes numbers to me and I can't visualize them.

The front end like Will has or the front end like I have on my mate's one.

I'll get photos up for you.

Yeah, I don't know.

I will say, I offered you one.

I had a man who offered me, after the Clio video went out,

I've been offered a great many Renault's and it's been,

it has been deeply upsetting to have to say no to many of them.

Otherwise, I would just become Renault man.

Yeah, I saw the McGann that you got offered.

There was a McGann that someone said,

do you want to buy this McGann?

It was a liquid yellow R27 F1 edition,

which is a limited edition F1,

in the same color as my Clio.

And it was, it took a great deal of restraint to say,

not today, thank you, but maybe soon.

Thank you, but no, thank you.

What's this?

Benjamin, on your screen, that is a 197.

But that is a Clio 200.

I would like a 197.

You'd like an effect.

So, preface, if you like what Will has.

You can get him cheap.

You can get him very cheap.

You can get him real cheap.

I can't.

Double crash damage, yellow.

No.

Eight grand.

No more cars.

Now, okay, we just, we just here rising.

I can't even, I'm, I'm, I'm fixing it.

2000, one side of moved.

And then I will, and then I will.

Let's just play make, make believe.

I can't buy more cars.

Let's play pretend.

I have no more.

What color?

What color is it?

I would like, I like the blue.

Now you, there's two.

Blue or French blue.

I don't know.

Here's the metallic blue.

That's, look at the fitment.

Although Dr. Meere would hate that.

No, he'd, of course.

No, it's wrong, isn't it?

How would it, never seen one of those.

Scusting automobile.

Or then there is this guy, racing blue.

Or we're not, he's not technically racing blue.

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Metallic, metallic.

Okay.

Now that's a good reason.

So I put up a photo on screen of the racing blue Clio,

which is the gloss blue, which Ben famously said,

I actually hate actually my silver cars better.

I don't hate it.

I just don't like it.

But my car is monochrome.

So you like this blue?

That's nice.

Which you said is Albee blue?

I think it's Albee.

If that had no, like had normal color brake calipers

that weren't red.

Now the funny thing is, those are, that's what like,

I see those going cheap all the time.

Nobody really cares about this blue.

So Ben, we can find you a cheap one as you know.

So you can get a nice come,

you get it cheaper without the recorros.

Nice and comfy.

Go for your all back.

Yeah.

Actually, you know what?

The original seats are quite comfy.

They are.

They are very comfy.

You could have mine.

I'm not buying them.

We're all coming together.

A nice sorted Cleo.

I reckon we get a little few bits done on it ourselves.

No.

Two and a half grand all in.

And it could live here.

I can't.

It can live here, mate.

I can't store it.

I can't run it.

I can't afford it.

If it's not a Cleo for the one of the week,

which is obviously not committed to it,

can you, have you got a funny one?

Or like a silly one?

A silly one.

Can we do a five-octane one?

That's not available.

Okay.

The Weenhamville.

Oh, boring.

What's a Weenhamville?

Have you never seen a Weenhamville?

The, I forget what his name is.

It's a Weenhamville.

The man's name is usually goes in front of it.

Or a duck boat.

There you go.

What the hell are you talking about?

Now, Will, you mustn't laugh at this.

And for audio listeners, Will's going to describe what it is.

Ah, I've seen this photo a million times.

It's Oscar Meyer.

That's the one.

It's sort of a frankfurter aboard a wedge of cheese.

I think it's a pot dog bun.

It's supposed to look like a hot dog bun with a frankfurter inside it.

Well, they failed.

That looks like.

I don't want that.

No.

What would I like as an actual car?

Has there anything you've seen recently?

You thought, oh, I can see myself in one of those in my lifetime.

Now, sorry, just a quick one.

While doing Weenhamville research, I found this and you mustn't laugh.

That is a Mini Cooper miniature Weenhamville.

I think it's a Cooper S.

That's a Cooper S.

That's an R53 as well.

That is a super charged.

That's quite nice.

Ben's googling cars right now.

Ben, you have to go.

It's now.

It sure is.

It's after Martin Vanquish again.

Oh, a second generation Vanquish.

Was you driven?

No, 312 Vantage.

I've taken pictures of a Vanquish.

An ultimate addition or something.

I don't care.

That's what you wanted to say.

No, that's really nice of you.

I don't know.

No, I've been near one.

Sorry.

Anyway, there you go.

A V12, I don't know why I'm saying it.

Now, we've asked this before and you will give us the answer.

Let's do it.

Vanquish or V12 Vantage?

It's going to well.

There it is.

Now, I actually like the Vanquish where it looks more.

OK.

Proportions.

It's nice.

It's probably Grand Tourer, if you will.

I will.

But you can't get manual.

No manual.

True, HUD.

And I want to.

And also, I think that I believe this.

You want to row the gears.

I want to row through gears in my suit.

And what I will say is I think the Vantage will age better

long term.

10 years down the line.

I don't know.

I don't know anything.

I don't know that.

I think the vanquish, that second gen vanquish,

still looks very modern to me.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

Whereas the V12 Vantage,

I think we talked about this a little bit earlier about something.

It will, the V12 Vantage will age, but well, if that makes sense.

It looks like it's from the 2010s.

That's but the vanquish nicely.

Also, the interior is a little bit,

it's a little bit more dated looking.

Or as I think that, that next gen of vanquish.

The kind of, yeah.

But no, no.

He said no.

No, no, no.

V12 vanquish.

I think I don't know the actual details of it,

but I know the later ones have that new interior.

Because I remember thinking this when the current,

not current generation, but the 2000, late 2010s,

Aston Martin redesign happened,

where they did all the stuff with Mercedes.

That interior, I remember when it came out,

thinking that looks way better.

But now when they've aged, the older ones look better.

Can I pitch you?

I think no.

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Own the dream.

I'd like to pitch you a thing.

And I'd like you to...

I just... I'd not think I'd want you to answer it.

Sure.

Can you put a timeline on Aston Martin ownership, please, for your life?

I want... I want...

The creamers need to know.

We need to know, because then in 10 years' time,

when we make, oh, my God, Ben bought his dream car.

You should've done it two years' time or six months' time.

Or in 11 minutes' time,

when you open the door and reveal your new V12 auntie.

Now, the issue I'm going to have is that the bread's going to go up on them.

They're going to be more...

You don't know that.

Yeah.

They will be more.

Why is that?

Because they are a manual V12.

So, people have said that about me.

You know what people have said that about?

The Ferrari 550 Marinello.

And then they dropped to £25,000.

But... Well, I don't know.

But that was then another 10 years later.

Yes.

Okay.

So, where are we?

Bro's logic fell off.

Give me an age.

I don't know.

An age.

How old am I?

30.

I'm not 30.

No, you're not 30.

I'm saying by 30.

By 30, I'd like to have that.

By 30, Aston Martin ownership.

You could broaden the horizons a bit and just say any Aston Martin.

30 would be...

Get yourself a DV7.

Yeah, Ben's turning up in line 6, DV7.

No, it's a manual V12 Vantage.

And it's black.

And would you accept any other options?

I would like...

I don't think you actually get this,

but I would like one with a tan leather interior.

I'm sure you can.

Yeah, I'm sure there is.

So, you're saying by 30, Aston.

Six years.

By 30.

At 30.

Come on, we can make...

No, by 30.

We can make this happen.

It's all about...

You know what?

I feel like if I go on the attitude that I won't have on by 30,

that's a losing mentality.

I agree.

I need some...

Now, here's my question.

Go on.

What about a little crashed one?

I feel like you're not...

That's not...

No.

You want a nice one.

No.

Ben would hate a shonky Aston Martin.

It would need to be cheap.

Well, that's the...

That's the issue.

Even then, it's going to be...

Ben wants a cheap one and goes,

Why is this one cheap and broken?

I know what's going to happen.

He's going to get the budget be probably 40% short,

where you're going to have to go out.

Of course.

Speak to...

Speak to some people out there.

If I'm 40% short, I'm like 35 grand down.

I don't even go,

Oh, I'll go buy one today then.

Shall I own you 35 grand?

That's Ben right now going,

Right, I'm ready.

He's just going to send us out into the world and go,

Just find me one.

Yeah.

Just find me one.

30 grand short to go.

That is not what happens.

Just find me one.

We're going to come back with an MGTF and go,

Here you go, mate.

Here is your DB7 automatic.

Buy 30.

All right.

Let's play a same game for you.

Six years time, you're going to be what?

70?

47.

What are you going to be in six years time?

I will be 28.

No, is it?

That's not true.

You're pushing 40, bro.

Are we pushing?

Bruv.

Is it the big M?

It has to be, yeah.

In six years, it's the big M.

I have said to my brain,

I have said to my brain that's inside me in my head,

that by 40, there will be a V12 Lamborghini in my life.

By 40, yeah.

Delectable.

I have to say that's a long amount of time.

Now, here's my question to you.

That's a long amount of time.

Eight and a half years.

Here's my question.

Will a normal Aventador cut it?

I do believe it might.

I am 100% sure to tell you, it may do.

But it would not make me feel

what a mercy laundry would make me feel.

An Aventador?

Are you Northern Ben for a second there?

An Aventador.

You're going to be by an Aventador.

Are you a jerky?

You don't want that Merchela girl.

A guy and a...

Aventador isn't a million miles away from your glado.

What does that mean?

In my intents, there's one part.

And actually, Aventadors are for a good one as well.

Really?

Yeah, they're sort of...

What are we looking at?

They're 100...

Off the top of my head, the last time I looked,

you're looking at 175k plus.

That's pocket age to the hand.

And you're looking at like a 10 to 12 year old car

with potential you might need to do a clutch, which is big.

That's the other thing with those cars.

Even if they become affordable,

they may not be affordable to do

because you're looking at 10, 15 grand clutch jobs.

And whereas the glado, from what I'm looking at

and working on it recently, I'm not saying it's affordable,

but there's enough stuff that's from Volkswagen and Audi

that you can actually maintain it yourself.

And it's not that bad.

Whereas that, when you get into the big M or the big A,

yo, it's mad for you.

So, 40.

Yeah, by 40, that's what I...

That is the goal I've set.

The doors must be going up.

The doors have to go up.

And in six to sort of seven years, you're going to be dead.

35?

No, by the end of this year, I want to earn a 550.

No, but that's not...

You're thinking glado and we're thinking merce lago.

What's the next guy?

There isn't really one for me.

You know what it is?

It's quite sad.

It's more tat.

It's more and more tat.

The 550 for me is...

I'm there, I'm happy, I'm done.

Is it a barn to keep in?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, but actually that's it.

There you go.

A barn.

So, barn by 35.

Barn by 35.

Aventador V12 Vantage.

Aventador and some...

And a Cosworth of some sort.

Oh, okay.

You know what?

The unplaceable man.

The man with an Aventador and a Cosworth.

I know it'll be Larry.

Yeah.

Someone will be like...

So, you're...

What are you?

What are you into?

Who do you...

What do you want here?

If I had merce lago.

And then I like...

Maybe, as you know, you know, an M3 in there somewhere.

Okay.

A couple of RS's.

Mark 1, Mark 2.

Cosworth will be lovely.

It was a super...

And then I got my 2S score.

Veyron.

I've got the Olympic size swimming pool.

It is a difficult brain to have.

Yeah, heard.

Yeah, we've reached the end of the game video.

Yeah.

Which is, you know, about time.

I think it's about time we wrap up.

Should we wrap it up?

Thank you very much for listening to this episode of

the Cars, Roll, Everything or Army podcast.

Little bit delirious.

Mainly brought on by Ben's late ability to work on cars.

We will put back next week.

Oh no, we'll be back on Tuesday.

No, sorry.

We'll be back.

We will be back next week.

And then you will also have a bonus episode soon.

Potentially next Tuesday.

Or when you're listening to this.

Yeah, this coming Tuesday.

Sorry.

My brain doesn't work.

With Al Clark, a very cool man.

You'll see that soon.

And even better because Ben's not there.

I wouldn't be there.

Cream it.

Oh, that's horrible.

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