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Hello, and welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. I'm Nick, and this is a special Christmas edition of this car pod recorded weeks ago, because we are lazy, and we don't want to record during the holidays. I'm an Ohio currently. Kenan's in Ohio, Nick is God knows where. Anyway, this special Christmas edition, Ho Ho Ho, by the way, this special edition, all we're doing is answering

previous questions that you've asked us before that we didn't get to, because we can't. We're not filming this recently, so we can't do the news. You know, I got some future predictions for the news if we did want to. Okay, now some some industry predictions. I think that's a good idea. All right, why don't you start. Well, let's start there, and then we'll move on into the questions that we've prepared. Jaguar is making a New Year's resolution. Yeah, to be back on cars. They're going to start making them designing them. Yep. There will be multiple Stellantis recalls, because they're still antists. Uh-huh.

Another Eevee will get killed. Another V8 will come back. I think it's pretty predictable. If you watch these episodes, you kind of know where the world's going. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, thank you so much. Nick. I appreciate that. Nick, what do you think about Slate? Oh, yeah. Uh, this is where my populist political beliefs will come out. Oh, because it's affiliated with Bezos. I'm kind of off it. You know, there were people out there who I know he's an investor, whatever. I just I'm if I

can avoid Amazon, I do. Well, so you oh, wow. So you just don't use Nick's getting into politics right here and yeah, yeah. All right. Uh, let's we're going to do questions. You guys have always been lovely and asked us questions. And if you want to ask us questions for the next pod, which we're going to record.

Topically, you go to carsandbinds.com. You click on the community tab. There's a post there. It says ask us questions. And then you ask us questions. This week, we've gone through weeks of old questions. And I've picked the best ones we didn't answer before. Okay. Are you guys ready? I've got 20 some will probably get to half of them.

I'm excited for this. Okay. First question from Doug's not a Porsche guy, which by the way, love it. True. He's a Mercedes guy. Get it right. No, I have no affiliation. Kia Stinger GT guy. I did love that car. Doug and friends. You guys are the friends. Yeah. So Santa. Thank you. Thank you. Santa. Big neck. Big Nick. Energy out of all the vehicles you've owned. What was your favorite and why?

Well, Nick, I think we all know Kenan, right? That Kenan's is E 30. I think I'm fine. Yeah. Yes, it will. Yes, it was. Kenan lights his ether. I don't know if we've ever made this point in the pod before, but Kenan likes his E 39. I don't think I've ever mentioned that. So yes, I really enjoy my. If you don't know, he's got a silver titanium silver. It's a 2002 black sport interior. Is that the one with the V8? That's the V8. Oh, yes, it is. Yes, it is. Nick.

Nick, you have how many cars have you had? You think I've lost count, but enough. Yeah, I don't know. It's that's a really hard question. They all like great for different purposes. I think if I think about which one I like loved the most, you know, like just has that like weird feeling. I think it's got to be a B 7 Audi. So the RS4 was the best one, but like B 7s are really what got me like just overboard on cars. So probably the S 4 that I had Olens. I had a big brake kit. I tracked it. We had a lot of fun with that.

Okay, a couple things. First off, there's roads colored glasses going on here. Yeah, absolutely. Ginger, we've made my way. Hold on to me. So you're the Berego. You loved your. I did. I did. Your mercy. A logo. The Berger was at the XPA was also the XPA through my head, but I thought your world forums are paying him to be here today. And he I don't know to shout out to the forums. Racers and all that stuff. You really see you did. I mean, you know, Nick. Yeah, I saw five cars on the site. Pull up a B 7. Pull up a B 7. I sold like nine. Okay. Pull up a B 7.

No, no, on the site. Go back to the site. Pull up a B 7. Let's let Nick go down memory lane. Yeah, I mean, I think the the RS4 was the better car, but it might S 4. I just loved. There you go. A 4 S line. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. A 4. This is basically what he's talking about. A 4 S line. Yeah, look at that. It was great interior. I've considered. So I've had the A 4 S 4 and RS 4. I haven't done a cab yet. A convertible. Yeah, I haven't done an avalanche. Yeah. So there may be. I'm just for sure. I'm putting it out there that it

is. A fourth one comes around that is too good to say no to. I wouldn't say no to it. Dude, the B 7 ma up. Yeah, a B 7 RS 4. I'm legitimately waiting until they're 25 years old to import one. Oh, wagon. Yeah, I've thought about trying to convert one, but it's a lot of work. What else we got here that you would have done the B 7 front? Anything in spring blue? You would have B 7 as for not a B 6. There will be sevens. I've always preferred the B 6. Did you not? No, you didn't like those wheels? No.

It was fine, but the B 7 was everything but better. It's like the RRC to the P 38. It's everything just a little bit better. I'm going to tell you right now. Nobody thinks that. I think nobody all of my P 38 friends. The only people who think the P 38 was the proven over the R.C. Are on the P 38 Facebook group. We'll go ask the R.C. Talk about how undervalued I had an R.C. Oh, getting ruster pair right now, because this car was made poorly. I wish I had a P 38. That's all I'll say. No, no range of our classic wishes. They had a P 38. They have enough problems.

And their car is better right and simpler. They have enough problems because it was V 1, a V 2.0 of God's masterpiece. V 2 was much worse now. Does it ever, do you ever like the fact that Land Rover couldn't, you know how BMW's E 28, E 39, E 46 Land Rover went through so many BS owners and naming conventions that it was classic P 38 L 32 makes no sense. Yeah, none at all. Yeah, actually, no, they truly are internal. No, they're not to say no. It's a disaster. So yeah, I'm that's my final

answer. I'm locking in the B 7. He said very even the front wheel drive CBT. I enjoyed that car. I drive CBT with that six LEDs and a ton of great mods. Sorry, SLR. Move over mercy. Bye bye. All right. It's the. How can you say that? Look at that. Look at that. R is for the wide fenders. I agree. Those are the perfect. Look at your. They pretty much invented honeycomb mesh. Like that was a new thing in that era. Yeah. I mean, just they killed it. But how can you say that? This is the E 39 M 5 of outies. No, totally.

Yeah, definitely. But how could you say this? You had a stick. He doesn't have enough time for his stick mercy. You know, I'll tell you this. My first car was a 1996 Volvo 850 turbo. Pull up an A 50 turbo and a box one. Yeah. And five cylinder, wasn't it? Turbo five. Hell yeah. Turbo five. And it looked a lot like that. That's an R, but it has does not have our wheels. It has turbo wheels. That's how my car looked. It was white. And I said the car. You like best like you. I for years after getting rid of it.

I ideal. Oh, God. Miss mate 50 turbo. Miss mate 50 turbo years later. I drove one again. And needless to say, have a misted sense. The clothes of the boy. Enough at the man. And he would discover that. If he got it back into a B 7. Yeah, I wouldn't. Is it. I only be seven like three years ago. Yeah. But it was nice for. If you got back into the B 7 full track, you just espoused. I have a suspicion. It wouldn't last. Perhaps. But I feel like it's a cheat. Did you say it?

My fastest car or my most expensive car. I mean, I'm going with the car that I had the deepest emotional bond with. Like Kenan is 839. I was Mr. B 7. I lived and breathed that it was a seminal point of my childhood and adulthood. Yeah. So that. So it's what it's kind of. It's got history to you personally. My favorite car. I've ever owned really hard. You know, like them all equally, et cetera, et cetera, like this or whatever. I've had 38 cars. She is. You probably had 38 cars.

I've had a count diecast. I'm better. I'm better. I'm at like 20. I'm in the hundreds. But you're you're moving a lot. It's picking up. It's picking up. Five years. You're definitely going to be more than. Yeah. You're having like six cars a year. It's really a violation. It's just getting close to dealer. I'm going to Phoenix next week. And I've already updated my Facebook marketplace to target who peace in that area. So yes, if a Ford lightning. If you got a Ford lightning, you're trying to offload this Christmas and Scottsdale in Mesa. Yes. Put it on. Put it on Facebook right now. There's a lot of good use.

The California guy coming in. But I think my favorite is probably the Kuntosh, which I is currently owner and just love dearly, dearly, dearly, dearly. That's what I'm saying. I'm so excited every time I'm in it. That's what I was predicting. You were going to say it's not the most usable. If I only look at cars that I have gotten rid of that 2001 E 55. Pull up one of those. I just want to look at it. Wow. The 2001 E 55 is my. That's like your B seven. Yeah. It's not that great by today's standard.

Well, the thing that made it so great was that it was super reliable. It was pretty fast, but it was also roomy and reliable and comfortable. And at the time, when I owned it, I was like 25. I didn't need any of that stuff. But in the years sense that I've realized, like, actually, it's be great. And you know how you have that focus is like a third car that you just sort of use when guests, whatever. I want to get one of these for that. Yeah, a little just viable. Yeah. Have you don't have to treat incredibly nicely. That's that's this is doable. You know, it's a very

valuable budget. Well, I want to wagon, which is a little bit harder. That's a little bit harder. A little bit more. Then you'll be precious about learning it out though, because that's legitimately cool. It is a 99. And I only I only do faceless cars. Well, we haven't had one yet. No, no one has there. They're, they're uncommon. But I'm starting the procedure of looking for one. Wow. But I do like my you got me back into cars. Good. You got me deep back on cars. I don't know if you got me off cars.

You think this our knowledge on to me, the multiple. You guys are just feeding me bad idea. By the time this pot airs, I'm not sure if this will be if all of it all

announced this yet. But I really want an E30 M3 sport EVO. And I really want a two 10 E55 wagon. And I am ready. I think to buy either one.

Can't wait to hear about this for months after you've already bought one. You you started this cool. I was off cars.

I hear for years. I didn't buy a car. And then you showed up. And you were like, I'm having all this fun.

And then you did dumb stuff and got out of it. Okay.

Eventually. Yeah. And I'm like, well, I can do dumb stuff and get out of it. Look at all these entries.

You see these? Look at that. Take this car. This is what I want. This car, but five more horsepower for 150,000 more

completely rest. That's great. It's good sense. So anyway, I'm interested. Okay. Should we do our next question?

I guess. I'm so excited to get Kenan's view on. Oh, here's a great one.

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From Atticus Ripple, this is actually on the same vein of what you're just talking about.

Okay. Do your dog and friends. Again, you're the friends.

Well, how sentimental about previous cars are you? As someone in the Kenan camp of cart maintenance,

I wonder how much emotional weight you carry in cars?

Kenan, how sentimental about previous cars are you?

Extremely. I'm a very emotional person, so there are some cars for which my hatred

knows no bounds that I've owned. There's a sentimentality to that.

But that is a sentimentality. Yeah, I feel strongly and very emotionally about all of my cars.

But yeah, sentimentality drives a lot of the reason that I the cars that I want,

the cars that I keep. There's a lot. I'm very emotional about my things. Watches to my things.

I like my things. And by the way, we're in the middle of watch season, folks.

Oh, early days, though. This is watch season.

Yes, I have. Yes. I being from Ohio in the winter time,

you put away the cars and you can't use them. So what I do in that time, I'd fill that time.

We've been working out the timepieces. That's right.

You know what? You see this, this thing. That is really cool.

It's an SLR edition watch. So I'm not to take hard. I'm on car watches.

See? Nick gets it. So I took it in to get the battery replaced.

And the guys like, sir, there's there's no battery in this. It's an automatic.

And so he's like, you just need to like shake your wrist more. And I left feeling like in it.

Well, I got some hard work to do very watch season here.

Okay. When you say that you're sentimental about cars, what do you mean?

Like you look at your old cars. You look up their vins.

You think about them. You have glossies on their on your wall of your bed.

I do think about the head momentus from them. So like I have like from my my first car,

my 525, I still have the window sticker. And I still look back at pictures like I really love that car.

It was really, really loved it. It was 190 horsepower.

It was. But it was my first. It was a great first car. And it was a manual. And it was blue.

And I just really love that car. But yeah, I looked back fondly on a lot of the great memories

I've made with all of them. That's the most important aspect of owning any of these cars to me.

It's just like the U 39. It's like, well, the reason I feel so sentimental about that is I closed the door

and I'm right back to where I was when I was dreaming about owning that car as a kid. And now I have one.

And so I and it just that hasn't faded for me. And the sentiment how it is what drives that.

Have you ever thought to be a little armchair psychology stare that you get too attached?

You know, like maybe it caused you to over invest in maintenance or make sort of illogical decisions.

Well, yes, love is not rational. So I would argue that it's important to love

things that can love you back, like how I love Nick. Yes, but the M5 provides me with so much joy

every time I use it that it does love you back. In a way, it provides me what I'm looking for

from an automobile. So yeah, it gives me what I want. Then yes, it is very expensive and things,

but I just want it to always function and want to be around for as long as I can drive the car.

So no surprise. The person who spends so much money on the car is invested sentimentally and

emotionally invested in the car. Isn't that called commitment bias? I'm not sure.

It's more of a sunk cost fallacy actually. Well, I mean, you sunk a lot of money into it. So

therefore, you feel like, oh, I got to love this. So deep. I mean, so deep I might look

going. That would be something. You know, you can tell sometimes you're with people and there's

some stuff. No, this is true love. He truly loves. It's not like one of the situations where you

know that couple and you want to say something to the guy like you should get out of this or to

the woman like, I don't think so. To this, this is this is a merger of equals. That's my

favorite part of the holidays is catching like couples that are normally very harmonious. It's

quietly bickering. You know, you get the dogs in the garage. And you're like, oh my gosh,

they're going to murder each other when we, but like we're just getting like the quick,

the little brown M&M, like the first canary in the coal mine before they just, you know,

take kind of like an E39 M5 last summer. Sitting home, Nick's family in Ohio takes us back to

the banana bread. Not even my family, but Nick, do you get sentimentally attached to your cars?

Do you think about the money shift TTRS? No. I think the velocity of which I've been turning

over cars, I think I'm probably of anything over or two unsentimental towards the cars,

but they're, I have fun memories of them. And then I have recreated the P38 experience. I have

thought about getting another Chilean XB8. So I'd say like it's a balancing act.

But do you specifically the ones that you have? Do you ever mourn their loss? Do you think about

them? Do you have kicks? You know, funny enough, they're mercy. So there's been a few cars like

that B7S4. I tried to sell it one, so then I like back down. I'm like, I can't sell it. I just

love this car too much. I regretted doing that. I did like a year later. I sold it for way less

money. So now I've kind of like realized once I get the itch to sell a car, it's time. Right.

And waiting is only worse for me. So I've sort of learned to just listen to that. Like the mercy,

I still loved that car, but I was also like, it's time. And I know it's time and it's time for

something new. And if I hold off now, I'll wait six or 12 months, I'll probably get, you know,

it just like all the signs are pointing it to. It's time to let go. So when you let go, you let go.

And yeah, now I've like totally let go. I'm still in the owner's groups and like

poking around a little bit. But you don't have emotional. I don't have a year to get back in

the mercy right now. Okay. The question was, how strong about previous cars are you? My answer is

literally zero. Yep, I knew that about which is literally zero. You would trouble letting go of your

defender 90. I feel like you were sentimentally attached. No, he didn't. Nope. He was all of us.

Many other people in his life were attached to that car. But all my friends, we can't let you

try to talk you into like helping you tough off the ledge between that and the G cab. I feel like I

definitely am attached to the G cab, which I currently own. I have no attachment to the yellow car.

I sold it to a guy in upstate New York. Don't you famously look up the car facts of all your

vehicles? I car facts from once a year. It's a little stalker. No, no, no, I don't. That's like,

oh, yeah, look up my high school girlfriend on Facebook once a month. But I'm not, I'm over it.

It depends on the purpose. I mean, like I look up some people from high school just to make sure

that I'm living better than them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Nick understands.

Biggest boss in his neighborhood at a Lambo. But he's got his profile picture of Nick at a

Lambo at a race suit. Actually, I'm rocking the QP5 on Facebook. Thank you. But I do car facts.

I'm always curious to see where they want. But I never like yearn. There is not a ounce of me

that wants any of those cars back. I never want to hear from the people who have them. I do not care if

they get an accident and totaled and destroyed which them have. I don't care if they if they kill

people in Florida as one of them did. None of it matters to me. But there are experiences you would

like to repeat the W 210 being a good example. But to me, that was a thing. It was a thing of

metal and glass and bolts. I can get another thing like that. And honestly, that car now has 150,000

miles. I don't want that thing back. I want a different thing that probably provides me with a

sort of similar. Do you know what I mean? I know it. There's certainly the experiences in some of

the cars. I enjoy the memories. This one being the best example of that. But I'm not trying to buy

one on these back. And if I was, I would, you know, like anybody who's, oh, I missed this car.

Well, you want to get one? I don't miss it that much. It's not like any of these cars I can't

buy back. I know some people who are in that situation where they sold the car and the values

took off and they can't afford it. Like I can get it W 210. It's a $14,000. But like if I really missed

it, I would, but I don't. You know, the cars I yearn to get back are ones that I never owned, but

I had like a exposure to it. So examples. My dad's friend had a 1967 GT500 KR Mustang. Oh wow.

He let me drive in high school and do a burnout. And so I always whenever I see a green with white

stripe GT500 KR, I look at the car facts and figure out, okay, was this in Columbus? And if so,

maybe it's the one and I should buy it. My grandpa had an E type. I'm going to strap you right there.

Can and do you want to ask him about it? Well, Columbus, how do you look at the car facts?

If you don't know from this, well, not a car, but you can look at the ownership history and

something. You get a Marty report. You can kind of figure it out. Marty, not car facts, but that

usually it's like some level of owner documentation still in there. You post on the forum every

year. When someone comes up for sale, yeah, yeah, you was the right up on the list. Would you buy

such a car? I don't know. Those in particular very expensive, but my grandpa's E type same thing.

If that came around and it could be viable for the right price, I'd be like, oh, sentimentally.

Anytime anyone does that, I always wonder like after the first couple of years, are you just like,

well, I don't even think it's the first couple of weeks because you got grandpa's E type and it's

like, okay, we got grandpa's E type, but at some point you have a vehicle in your garage that you

don't use much and grandpa sat in it 45 years ago, but like, well, I mean, I'm not sentimental about

cars or property or anything like that. I don't get into that kind of stuff that much, but I

and I guess there are some people who would who would not feel that way. But to me, it's like,

when you're done with it, you move it on and you don't think about it again and you hope never to

hear from the guy who bought it. Now, the guy who bought this, which is the car that I was certainly

had the most personal attachment to, he does send me a message of his often. I like to hear what's

going on with it, but I'm not, I don't look at the pictures and think, oh, my for the guy bought

my Ferrari sends me a note every now and again to tell me that the car has been perfectly reliable

for him. He hasn't had an issue and I'm like, every time, but then the last one. My ornage guy

messaged me. He was the same guy, right? Isn't this no different guy? He think I bid on mine but

did not win it. And he said the battery was dead because the alarm went off the entire way from

San Diego to Tennessee. But he's like, I figured out how to turn the alarm off and it's great. This

is so fast and fun. Oh my God. Car shippers going to ship, you know? Yep. Yep. All they said

is they get it from point A to point P that didn't say they'd turn off the alarm.

Okay, next question. Did you drove it with the alarm going to hold? I guess. I mean,

presumably the battery died somewhere in Texas. Yeah, I killed the bad man when we were

hauling across the country. Can't hear it. The reason was you had a, there's like an alarm sensor

or something. Yeah, I think like a toe sensor. So it was out of tilt and that was enough. But

yeah. Okay, next question. This one is from Subway. And I want you both to weigh in on this,

even though it's for me, I want to hear your takes before I provide my monstrously

outsized ridiculous outburst take from Subway. Question for Doug, have you heard of the Rare Shades

Festival? No. It's a festival dedicated to Porsche cars and different colors from the paint to

sample program. My question is, how much would they have to pay you to attend or will

you attend next year's event now that he's officially a Porsche guy? Let me do math. Will I attend?

I carry the one under absolutely no circumstances ever. But the question is, how much would they

have to pay me? I mean, I would probably do it for 100 grand post tax. 100 grand post. You

wouldn't do 50 grand post. Where is it? Is it an LA, you think? If it's in LA for 50 grand post,

and I can go up and go back the same day, I would talk about it. What's it called? Rare Shades

Festival. Okay. If it's in the bay, 100 is my number, seriously. Nick, tell me your thoughts on

the Rare Shades Festival. Would I go or would you be convinced? No, what do you think about people

meeting up to show off the colors of their Porsches? I mean, it is great and that it gets all of those

people off the road and away from me at one time. That cars and coffee in that area and that

vicinity that week will be amazing because like all of those people will just be elsewhere. Yeah,

they're elsewhere. They don't have to come to our cars. It's out of Ritz Carlton too. This is a

first in Kansas. As you would say, it's like they're making fun of their own customers, you know.

Oh, man. What I've discovered is that there is a large contingent of Porsche enthusiasts who care

more about their spec than the driving experience of their car. And I think it's probably the single

most pathetic thing that goes on in the automotive industry today. I do think it's actually for those

people though, that'll be really fun. I do think buying the car in the right color is incredibly

important. So I can agree with the lot of it. I think the problem is that they just take it a little

too far. But they're by the car and only want to talk about the color. We have that mutual

friend on Instagram who did like a like a like a Oscar. Thank you, like an Oscar Academy Awards

thank you message to his dealer. I want to thank Porsche of whatever for the opportunity to buy this

paint a sample car. It was like, this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

And the fact that they then don't drive the cars like prior the driving experience is the thing.

Yep. The cool color is cool. And I'm into the people who buy it for the driving experience and

then also get some weird color. And that's cool. I'm into that. But the people who attend these

things zero mile trailer to the thing factory recommission because they wanted this perfect. Yeah,

that is sad. Yeah, I agree. I remember earlier that I was earlier this year seeing a GT3 RS brand

new one, you know, cars designed to be driven hard on the track like really take the abuse. Yeah.

And it was a PTSD color of some kind. And this guy just got out of it and immediately started

drying it off because it bit slightly sprinkled on with rain. You know, you're not going to

get cars and copy with a certain mutual friend who was a little worried about some do on their

spoiler this week. Yes, on the Gary ZF355 was a little worried. I just don't get into any sort of

behavior. To me, a car is about the drive. Yeah. And the thing about the rare shades thing is

it is literally the opposite of that. It's like celebrating, you're celebrating like the way

the way it's optioned in the spec. And I spec they spec every oh my god, the spec is so nice.

And I just think that is so far from the intent. And I those people want to do that. That's fine,

but I just would prefer they not come to my events or talk to me. Do the biggest problems

since getting the arena the sense the turbo L will come up to me now. Yeah. Oh man, I had

of this. I got of this. I got it. And it's in flesh and blue from orange. And I don't know what

that is. And I don't care. Like I truly don't care. I got one with no sun roof. It was only no

sun roof for six months and 87. Literally, I'm not one of you. I joke about not being a portion

guy, but like I don't I can't handle this. Like mental. I can't handle those conversations.

Like don't come at me with that. You you would appreciate. So I broke my other MacBook and I

took it in for a repair. And the guy recognized me as Doug's friend. No way. But he wasn't authorized

to help me. So he just chatted with me for like 20 minutes while I was waiting for my actual

appointment. But it was like, oh boy, I hope he's not a PTSD. No, he was actually a cool enthusiast.

But you know, sometimes you get trapped in those conversations where you're like, I literally can't

leave. But again, it made me I understand why because the cars are so ubiquitous because

their master's car is a portion just pumped out. Yeah. And so if you want to distinguish your 87

Carrera. Yeah. Yeah. Like the different colors are big deal. So I get that. But I agree.

The story that is untold the car. The story that's untold about that exact thing is that like,

ultimately, these cars are not that special. They're special almost entirely because of the way

they drive. Yeah. And but if you're not capable of exploiting that, then you go down the,

oh, I would have a cool spec kind of thing. But this question related to this, what festival,

if it was incredibly tailored to a very specific niche, would you go? I would do the,

it's a good question. The rare colors festival or whatever, for b seven hours force,

there are four Suzuki gray ones on the planet. One has been totaled. If all four showed up,

I would be there. I would pay a hundred grand to a test. Suzuki gray. It wasn't the most common color.

It's like a slightly off white. It's white with like a touch of gray. But it's

perfect. You're sitting here complaining. Perfect. I can't I hope those portion of people are off

the road. So I don't have to deal with them. He's over here talking about Suzuki gray. One of the

four. It's a, it's a b seven. It's God's chariot. Yeah. No, it isn't.

What, what weird event would you attend? You would go to like a G cap. I would go to

a G cap. I would never go to any event with fellow G cab owners. I gotta think about you.

It would be legit. You have Travis Scott, Kylie Jenner. I would never want to be around.

I would go to a non-red Ferrari event where all the fries were everywhere except for. There is no

like color event that I would. If I'm saying if you had to pick one of these, you're saying. You

would go to like a press color event. I would go to press. That would be good. Press colors of

normal cars from the 1980s, 90s through 2008. Yeah. That's all I want. Press colors of normal cars.

I want to see like the the dodge and trepid in that weird light blue that they had. I want to see

the Cadillac CTS in the copper. Like that's yes. You know, the point slot maxima in the copper. 46M3

in Phoenix, yellow. It's not normal enough. The other color event we could do that I would go

to and you would to would be the Sultan of Brunei festival. Yellow on red car or red on yellow car.

As well as any car that was rescued from him may it or golf themed interior car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If you have like a golf interior that counts. It counts. What about Harley Quinn's? That's

a festival I'd go to. Yeah. Volkswagen, Harley Quinn, golf. It'd be interesting. It'd be an

interesting crowd. I would get a positive red one at that point. Yeah. Kind of all this honestly

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Okay, next question, and this is a good one for the two of you as people who come from the middle

of the country. From Camoon, do you dug not car related to what's your connection? And Tucker,

I know you spent summers there, etc. When you make the drive there, which state has the best

scenery and which state has the worst? Well, sorry, Nebraska. I think that's probably

depending on which route you take, Nebraska. I've driven across the country many times as well.

I think that, I mean, Nebraska, it just goes on and on. From Ohio, you go through Nebraska. I've

never, I've never, well, I've driven through Nebraska, but I have not on that drive driven through

Nebraska. Not the best. I think, I mean, have you ever driven, no, your longest drive was to Monterey?

Probably here. Sedona. Can you imagine? That doesn't like to drive. You know what you should do.

I don't like road trips. I don't like monotonous road trips. Monotonous. You see the

country. You see the country. The nation is. I think once you're west of Denver and you start

to get into the mountains, then it becomes pretty stressful. I 70 through Colorado was the most

beautiful section of interstate in the country. There's no question. I think that. Yeah, and it

just, when I did it the first time, I mean, I had driven and skied there. So I knew it was like

my friend Ryan hadn't seen it. And to watch someone experience that's the first time it is.

That's specifically that stretch of interstate because interstates are normally so wide and slow

and boring with small curves. And that one is like, you know, I mean, I was a kid growing up in

Denver. When you're coming down the freeway at the freeway at I 70, there's runaway truck ramps.

Yes. Yes. And I just as a kid, I thought all freeways must have runaway. Like, that's normal. That

was normal. That was the only freeway we ever drove on. It must have runaway truck ramps. And

I discovered later that that's not actually normal. It was in Nebraska. You can just kind of just go

off the whole state. You don't lose your brakes because you're not riding your brake.

But it literally never occurred to me as a child that that was something that wasn't just commonly

done in interstate highways. It's really beautiful. However, on that drive across the country,

in Antarctica, I take to go through the south. And I'm going to I'm going to throw you a curve ball

here. Most beautiful state. Arkansas, Tennessee. Love really. Arkansas. There are times. I'm on that

drive. My family's not with me, right? And I'm like two days on the road away from my family.

And I get off to get gas in Arkansas, you know? And there's trees everywhere. And there's like a

little creek and there's like a like a swamp kind of and like this butch birds. And I think to myself,

you know, I could just keep going. I could just get off onto this county road. And by myself,

a nice, nice property in Arkansas. Raise chickens. Well, okay. So beautiful. The south is

the so beautiful and specifically the like densely green south. Yeah, I've developed a real

affinity for the South even when we went to I'm so I went to road Lanna and just like the roads

out there. So really and Buford and stuff and have beautiful lakes. A lot of trees. Yeah,

Tennessee. Friends in Chattanook and I love Chattanook. I'm on Chattanook is Zillow all the time.

And I'm always dreaming. Always dreaming. Meanwhile, Nick. Nick's favorite spot is Mesa,

makes Arizona. Wait, so it's okay. So you're saying most beautiful state, either Tennessee, Arkansas.

At least I think he's Tennessee on the interstate. Just a short that I drive through because Western

part of Colorado is incredibly beautiful. But he's Tennessee on the interstate. You drive through

some beautiful mountains and cross some incredible winding rivers and hillside. Yeah, the worst state

to drive through on that drive. I mean, I guess it's Oklahoma. I'm a guy from the middle of

the country. I love the middle of the country. I love a lot of those places. I don't like hate.

I don't hate any of this place. It's North Texas. I will take that back. I 40 through

North Texas is the worst part of the world. Just nothing. Sorry to say. I think that's Amarillo.

And if we've just lost our Amarillo viewers, I'm sorry, but also you know, you know.

And Nixie, you've never done this drive. I've never done a cross country drive. I've

done really have an ambition to have it. Once I was cruising through Galveston and I saw a Lambo

try to cruise through Galveston. Pretty sure it was a Lambo. That's the all-time greatest car

YouTube video. Way better than any of mine. Nice. Okay. Next question. This is the great

question that we've gotten this week. Hey, Doug and friends from this is Patrick O'Six. Again,

you're the friends. Just a quick question. Hey, you guys ever heard of the Audi A1 Club Sport

Quattro? Pull it up. Of course. This car. I don't want to talk about this car actually because I

feel like I'm worried the values are going to go up. And when it's finally legal, they're so cool.

I'm not going to be able to grab one. I'm telling you right now, there is no car that I want to

import more than this car. That is so cool. Nick, tell us your thoughts as an Audi man.

I mean, what's not to like? It's such a good size. Tons of power. What this was was a little.

So A1 was like a superman. Like the smallest hatchback that they made. But while most of these

were front wheel drive, tiny city cars to get people into the Audi brand early. This one they made

for somebody's in a high performance version, the A1 Quattro, which had 260 horsepower in all

wheel drive. In this car, it's incredible. And it's so cool. They had white wheels. It's funny,

although if this were done aftermarket, you would be like, it's the worst thing I've ever finished.

Kind of looks like a Cima build just throwing that out there. Like those OZ wheels are rotiform

wheels. That wing is so right. This is right. Give me an A1 and a couple cold ones. I can build

you on the looks identical. They only made three or three. Yeah, but you can't put all the

driving it. That was a big thing. Probably has all this in stock, you know, to ship it out of Ohio.

That's right. I think this is one of the, they didn't do a stick, but I think it was a dual clutch.

And I think it is just one of the, I love cars this size. And I love like toss around cars like

this. I'm not a front wheel drive guy. Not a lot of car people are. And so having an all-wheel-drive

system in this car, it must be so. It would be. I want one so, so, so bad. Yeah, I support that.

And if I had to kill Kenner to get one, I would, I wouldn't be that upset about it. Yeah,

I'd think about it. That's my thought on it. Now, these cars were like 2011, so we're a long

way away. Yeah, 10 years. Oh, that could be you. That could be me. Skidding across.

No, I did get one imported outie that was disappointing. Yeah, yeah, slightly. Two actually.

By the way, the R2 counts as well, doesn't it? That was the one I was shining out. What about the A2?

Oh, yeah, I've been, I've only been disappointed by imported outies. The interior was so cool.

Look at this. Nick, we could be sitting in this right now. Yeah. Again, see him a build of our own

and Jason. Jason, especially with the speed hunters. And you know what? At every place,

everywhere you took it. Yeah, people would think. Oh, yeah, for sure. Some dumb aftermarket belt.

They only made 33 of them for the whole world. And I think it is just one of the coolest cars in

the planet. I really truly do. I agree with that. Okay, next question from Tennessee cool cat into

our, into our section of Ken and questions from Tennessee cool cat is no one going to talk

about the hypocrisy of Ken and buying a tip. Everyone seems to be avoiding the conversation

intentionally. Ken and what is your justification just like everyone else has for their own reason

that they bought a tip. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it. Well, you know, I've owned

all manual cars except for my twin turbocharged V12 Mercedes. So, you know, you're right,

you got me there. So your point is it's okay by a tip if you buy if you get one that has a

thousand pound feet of torque. Yeah, if you're getting a rentek to an SL 65 or a Dodge 3500 power wagon,

then you can buy a tip. Yes, I've always wanted an SL 65. And I I felt for the longest time that one

of its shortcomings was its transmission. I don't actually feel that way that much anymore about it.

That car is so point and shoot and you kind of want to hold on the gears. The auto suits the nature

of a lot of AMG cars. Absolutely. I tried to make this point to some of us and he doesn't accept it.

I mean, he seems to be more accepting of it now. But I think that yes, I always wanted that

car and while it doesn't have a manual, I have to say I've really enjoyed I enjoy it anyway.

I do think that I agree that generally having you I always want a manual since I likely have my M5

for a long time. I still get that that joy, but and I think that most fun cars should be manual.

But nonetheless, you want the experience. Yeah, and all the justification is you want

the experience of this crazy car. A lot of people's justification is man get tired. No, actually,

I don't mind me. I'm not tired. I don't mind having tip cars. I have a bunch. However,

I want to point something out. You got half tips. You got all tips. You don't have a manual car

all right now. It's got the fiat. It doesn't count. Yeah, it doesn't. Not only is it broken,

but he's desperately trying to get out of there. I, however, have a majority of manuals.

Yes, I'm a 50-50 split at the moment. My next car will be a manual for sure. I'm 4-7th,

which works out to 57% manuals. Nick, do you have any just edges? Do you have anything to say about

the? No, and the next few cars I'm in the market for are all automatics. Yeah, that's true. Next

move down, he's getting older. He's getting greater. That B7 is getting further in his rear few mirrors.

Yeah, pretty soon it'll be like a B7 RS4, but I wish they had made an auto. That tip

tronic was just so satisfying to put into gear and then push over to the, you know, it's hard to

car-fax your old cars when you're driving a stick. You know, you need the hand-free. Type in those

long hair. You're not driving a stick. Exactly. I make, I'm being productive. I'm doing deals at the

stop-play. Big business. Oh, that's interesting. I, um, yeah, you guys are now auto people. Yeah,

I'll say that. The viewer is very astute on their deep state conspiracy of bearing that new story.

Yeah, the truth is out the shocking truth reveal. No, the car that made only is an automatic.

Everybody on this pile has always been like, only manuals, only manuals. Then they all end up with

automatics. Filippo, Mr. Only manuals himself has an automatic. He's got an automatic. I'm the only

one for my fun cars who's never deviated. I've never had a fun car with only two pedals.

Ever in my entire time to man up and get a veron.

And guess what turns that's going to have a tip. Next, Kenan question. This question is for Kenan,

and this is a good one. And then we have a Nick question. Kenan, this one is for Kenan, Kenan. Kenan,

we all know how much you love your M5, but is it your M5 that you love or is it the E39 M5 in general?

If a lower mileage M5 in your dream spec with extensive service history became available,

do you sell the M5 you have now in order to get it? That's from OP Starfish.

Really good question. I have run into this situation before. And honestly, it is my M5 that I

love specifically. Wow. I didn't even love the E39 M5. I do love the whole. It's because it's a

rare shade of silver, silver, and another silver. Yes, that is true. But I think it has become,

for a time, the answer that was yes, because I didn't want to silver one specifically. I didn't

want no two. I didn't want the black interior. It's not what I wanted. I think it's exactly what I

got. And so for a while, the answer would have been yes. But as I've grown with this car,

I don't see having a car. You wouldn't swap out. Let's say unless it gets totaled, I don't think I

would. Let's say Sunburst Yellow becomes available. The famous Dakar Yellow will say whatever it is.

The famous yellow car comes available. I don't really want the banana. There are colors like

what do you like? Interlagas. There is one. There are two that come to mind. There's one Estero blue E39

M5 in the United States. It's painted by BMW individuals. No three. It was in Georgia last.

I remember finding the M5 board looks as I'd be like. It looks. It looks. It looks so good.

There is. And there's one that's in Eastern Europe. It's the only one that was made in

Topaz Blue, which was my 525 color. And I love that blue. It's a really nice blue. It's the blue

Z8s. That's that blue. And so if one of those came up, I think that would be. That would really

push me. But it's only one of each. So they made more Estero ones, but usually they're UK cars

in my hand drive. It's like my Suzuki Gray are as far. Yes. We're keeping tabs on them,

but they'll just never be enough. Your elephant actually is white mine is. Next question from

Cool Man Food. This question about me, but to you guys, dear Doug, you talk all about how exciting

it is to have certain cars in your friend group. Like for example, in SLR, I'm curious.

Was anyone in your friend group excited for the 993 turbo? Where has it been ended up being a car

just for you? No one cares about the 993 turbo. In our friend group, in public, no one cares.

I like the car. And our friend Sam was into it. Yeah. The parts of guys in our group,

Addison and Sam are pretty happy. Nick like actively does not like the car. He thinks it's a

radically stupid money. No, I'm into it. I would never follow your footsteps here, but

the same week I got it. He spent the same money for an SLR. And I got an old 911 turbo where

precisely where the fan belt sensor warning light is permanently on. Listen, the car,

that car is a great example of a car that is only for the person sitting in the driver's seat.

And I have other cars that impress people when I drive them around, but that is absolutely not

it. But I am impressed by driving it. And I think there's benefits to all of that. Your SLR people

are like, whoa. Meanwhile, you get your focus and then you're like, whoa. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

For sure. Yeah, you're right. I see the focus. That's tease out there.

Well, I'm happy for you. And I do love the 993. I think it's one of the old time.

Great 911s. I will say my own generation is undesirable. The car has been among members

of the public and our friend group who barely even betted an eyelash on it when I pull up in it.

We made it like a tradition that we all like show up when someone's car is getting delivered

to see it. All of us would take off a work and go to the trailer and check out the car.

993 turbo came and people were like, well, okay. So lunch. I will agree. The reason I'm happy

about it is because it signifies you being back on cars openly and not buying these BSE cars that

were like, you know, $6,000, what's the snail car, the S-car go? The thing I was going to say,

though, is quickly in my world, it has become a huge hit. And I haven't driven my other cars in a

while. She drives the Kuntala. I mean, you know, the Kuntas recently. Not much. Not a portion of

GT. I am never using, which is so sad because I did take it out the other day and I love it so much.

But the 993 is, you know, practical because you can take your kids and that's a big part of it.

Also, the holiday season is a time for practicality. I often morning errands. I had to go pick up ice

the other day. The 4GTS is literally no-star at storage. That's true. Literally not. After we

finished wrapping, I'm returning a toilet bowl cover to the UPS star right above. So I'm with you.

You got to, you got to be ready. The P-38 delivers.

Okay, next I was going to lock the car but the locks doesn't really work and you're like,

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the link is in the description. Porsche Weenie asks question for all three of you. If you were

comfortable taking the approach that other automotive YouTubers had towards financing their cars,

what would your collection look like? I think about this all the time because I watch these guys and

I know some of their financial situations either from them personally or from being told about it from

and I know what's going on behind the scenes and I know that they're one. Everybody's always

some of these YouTubers, everybody's always like, you're complaining about this but you're a rich

YouTuber. I want to try and be like, you have no idea how close that dude is to personal

but unfortunately, I don't do that. I own all my cars and but I wish I could be irresponsible.

In which case they said, would you have an F40? Yeah, I'd probably have an F50 honestly. What would

you get? I mean, I would probably stretch back into that 100,000-ish like I mean for me, probably

probably a 575. There's only a thought I would stretch back into. It's just not the right time to

spend 100 grand on a car again. What about a 599? I was so funny you mentioned that. This past

weekend there was a manual swamp 599 at cars and coffee. That car gets more appealing by the day

to me even over the 550 and 575. That engine just hits you in the face. It does. Which actually is

one of the reasons why the manual, the drawback of a manual at that car is it's so fast that if you're

doing any sort of real speed driving the manuals like too much almost. But you still want a manual.

You still, yeah, because most of the time you're not driving like that. Yeah, so yeah, I think,

yeah, 599 and then do in the stick conversion. If I were brave, like Nick, because you know, you look

at a 599, it's 10 grand. You look at 599, 10 grand? Yeah, 599 is probably, that's a good point.

That's probably the one. That's probably the one for me. What about you? I feel like I'm

inching dangerously close to what he's describing in the first place. Every YouTube video I produce

probably nuts me a massive four-figure loss in terms of all the maintenance I did to make like

$30 an ad cents back. So I'm kind of what you're describing. Right. If I were willing to get more

leveraged, I would have a second fun car. And I really, you and I agree on this so much. But

an X-Day 220 or an S7, something punishingly expensive to own that you will literally never see

again. It'll be the only one that you see driving anywhere you go. Yeah, something like that that's

just beyond ridiculous. X-Day 220 would be so cool. I also either one. If I were to be a little

bit more practical, Diablo 6. Oh, yeah. But Diablo is our friend is proving is a very difficult

car to own, but I want one so badly. Yeah, I mean, too. That would be cool. I would have a lot of

stuff. Yeah, because I could leverage a lot and really go crazy. I would definitely get an F40 F50.

The problem as you've discovered is once you get past like 10 cars, it becomes a burden. That's

one of the reasons I'd go after like the craziest of crazy. Yeah. I would have a lot of crazy stuff,

but it'd be about probably about the same number of cars. Yeah. And my financial situation would

be sketchy as some of the people who are out there today possibly watching and thinking, am I

talking about, is he talking about me? Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, not Hoovy. Compare to some of

these guys that we've now heard some stories about. Yeah. Hoovy is Dave Ramsey. You can see how it

happened. So because you normalize it very quickly. Yeah. It's just like a, well, and it's you're

thinking only about monthly expenses. Like, can I cover this? Can I cover the payment this month?

If I make it as much an ad sense, I can do that. And you're not thinking about like any sort of

long term saving or how you can continue to exist or whatever. And so like, your only thought is,

can I cover that payment this month? If I make this video, I can. Okay. Well, then I get another one

or do even more crazy videos. And the next thing you know, you're like, you're like, you're earning 150

grand a month, but your spend is 146 grand a month. Yeah. Yeah. And you've convinced everyone.

I think convinced is himself their Mr. Beast, whether or not spending recklessly, they're reinvesting

into the business, you know? But like, it's not. No, it's different. From kinetic SF, this is on

the topic of what you just discussed. Doug, when are you going to stop kidding yourself and

give into the siren's long of the 550 or 575? Given your comment in the video about being a daily

option like your 4GT, it seems like you do a straight equal dollar swap for a manual 550 or 575

or an auto and save money. So swapping the 4GT into one of those, there is literally nothing in the

world that would convince me to swap my 4GT into 550 or 535. There is literally nothing on this

planet. No possible thing that could do that. Yeah. Anyway, next question. Because the 4R

is just more fragile. The 4R is a very simple car realistically. It's very easy to take care of

parts or inexpensive that not one of those things can be said about. The 575 is dailyable from the

perspective that it is relatively comfortable and relatively soft and relatively not noticeable

and quite practical, more so than the 4GT. But the thing the 4GT has over those cars is that it is

durable. And the 550 and 575, they are not durable, they are not reliable, they are expensive when

they break. They are relatively reliable for 4Rs. If you're going to daily one, these cars,

some of them have real miles on them. They're totally great, but they're not like the 4GT.

And more importantly, at the end of the day, the 4GT just drives way better, like not even close,

like simply drives much better, like an order of magnitude. Yeah, it's a different category of

cars. Different category, different ten years. I think that's really the big factor, but there

is nothing that would convince me to do it. I still think about getting a 4R. Kenan is constantly

getting on me about how I don't have a 4R. It's got these stick swaps in America. You've got one

4R in one BMW. It's silly. I got all these cars in my garage, and I got two porches now,

which is honestly embarrassing. And I don't have a 4R. What is going on? It makes sense,

you use Case 4, it's difficult. Why don't you convince me to get a 4R? I'll work on it. I'm

trying to get you to a BMW first, and we're working our way there. I can do it. When we do

that, I will be able to race anybody in a 4D fusion titanium. I don't think that's true. No,

I think they could take Gapia. I think they take you to Gapalbeast. Yeah, but by now though,

they're all probably a little down on power. Yeah, you might have a shot. That's a good point.

Maybe. That's a good point. Plus, when do you find one? This isn't here on Ohio, am I right?

Yeah. More Sandesky. Okay, next question. We have a few more. We've got a few more questions here.

Dear Doug, you don't seem to care about showworthy low mileage cars. You like cars that are for

driving, but do door dings and rock chips bother you? Or is that part of what makes a car in your

view? And then he says, do you pay to fix door dings and rock chips in your cars? I had never

have ever. Not once. Remember I sold those cars in the site with the broken windshield?

Everybody that's so mad at me. People are like, how can you do this?

When just broken, you could just replace it. You could see it right there. Big crack.

No, I don't fix any of that stuff. A little different opinions on this side of the table.

Kenan, Nick, do you want to give your... Yes, I'm very careful about where I parked my car,

so it's rare that it gets adorning, but it periodically has to go in for a dent removal and

PDR. It's not a big deal. Stone chips I'm actually less precious about. I've been waiting for one to

hit my windshield for years. So eager to replace that windshield and it just never happens to me.

It's got lots of little chips in it, but nothing big enough to, like,

because I know if I replace it, it's going to doubt me the day I take it away.

Yeah, replace it. I hate the way PPL looks and it scratches every time you use them.

I will say one of the reasons I don't care about this. I got PPL, so my big four,

four of my big five, the 993, the 4GT, the CrewGT, they are all PPL fully. The Kuntosh isn't,

but the paint's trash. And I keep running it into stuff. So really, it's not a problem.

And so it's not as big of an issue to me because when you have the whole car PPL,

including the windshield, you don't have to necessarily be quite as careful, especially about paint

factory. The PDR doesn't bother me at all. I mean, yeah, you can just get that done.

It's true. Yeah, for me, it's like, I don't know, to do great PPL work versus painting it costs

the same. Like, if you realistically look in, yeah, and it's like, and PPL is not all it's

cracked up to be. It stains and gets crap all over it and you do it. It's like, there's a level

of care required for it if you want, if you're me, you want it to be perfect, so that it's like,

it was done more difficult than I had realized. Never in my life have done anything.

I'm aware. But yeah, I don't know. It's just not for good. What about you? Are you bothered

by rock chips somewhere in between the two of you? They bother me, but I live with them. I drive

the cars. They all have imperfections. You find out about them to your point PDR and PPL

plus an occasional respray. Like, I'm buying used cars. So like, I think if you buy something new

and you want to preserve it, that's why the SLR bother music was 4,000 some miles. I had to PPL

because it just was too nice and I knew I would screw something. And so he ended up PPL for PPL

having random panels. He did like couple of fronts, one of the sides. Well, it's all Kevin

do the front clip and he's like, oh, while we're in there, we should do this part. We should do

that part. And I didn't really do the calculus that he basically said, let's do everything but like a

door. But uh, rock chips don't know. Listen, we're not, we can't all be Kennen. We wish we could. God.

I, I, I, well, yes. Uh, okay. Next question, uh, from Kiro Max 9192. Kiro Max 9192.

Is there a cutting room floor of not safe for work? Nick footage that we're all missing out on.

I swear a few weeks ago you and costume Kennen were laughing way too hard at an innocuous

Nick joke. And it couldn't have just been the one that was said. Yep. I bet it wasn't. Yep.

Our producer made the decision to cut that. It was really fun. Every time Nick's on the show,

Nick, Nick starts a show with this, with this man of the people. I don't support Bezos. I love

the workers rant. You shouldn't see what he says when the cameras are off.

Nick is one of the most entertaining people I know and there are things we can for his safety.

We can't put out, but I like to think I have no filter. The realities I just don't think before

a talk. Uh, similar though. I mean, there have been a number of clips circulated through the

friend group of things I said that did not make the podcast. So yeah, it occasionally happens.

I also think it's a good way to start the podcast. If I make you laugh really hard,

I then throw you off your balance a little bit. So sometimes I strategically plant something

in there just to mess with your head. And other times it's just just how it comes out.

Yeah, sometimes it just comes out. No, Nick says a lot of stuff that is totally insane. We call him

crazy, Nick. Uh, and he and I think that his full crazy isn't able to really shine through because

some of the stuff just simply can't be put in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

But you know what's funny is the haters on the YouTube comment against me say that I don't take

enough, like my opinions are very predictable and normal. And that I need to like take a more

controversial opinion. I'm like, those just get caught. That's his opinions. That's insane that he

says that because he bought an SLR. Yeah. The whole thing was that he's, he got rid of his mercy,

which everybody loves. And then the S and got an SLR. That's the least predictable opinion.

A person could, you know, who else got an SLR? Man, I got another one. No, we did not.

He bought the one I bring using an alias. You're gonna do another HDK full MSL recon

commission kind of thing. But yeah, he got I think it's his 10th. You're kidding. Yeah. People say

I have a problem. And when he bought it, he then screenshot it and then he goes, wow,

someone got an insane deal. And it was him. He later revealed that. So he was in on the joke,

but like, I love that he's, yeah, I love that he's indescribably much. You know what you want to do?

Is you want to burn down Mani's car warehouse? Because that would have a significant impact on the

number of SLRs around. Don't give him an idea. Like 10 fewer cars. Maybe the Rare Shades festival

needs to be hosted at the Koshpin Company headquarters. Dude, I got a Mani story for you that I've

never told in this podcast. All right. I went up to film something with him. I used to film with him. He

doesn't really use his, like, he doesn't drive his cars. So I can't really film them because I like

to do a drive. Which is a shame because I legitimately liked Mani. Like, I've met some people

doing this who. And then I love met some people who I like. And Mani is one of the ones I truly liked.

And, and he told me because Mani had a yellow curgey tea. And he told me right before they

were started to take off, take off as they were starting to take off that he had sold it for like 650.

And he said it needed like 85 in service. It needed the curgey teas after like 15 years

near the engine out. And it needed like, you know, the cams were pity. I mean, it needed real

service. And the market hadn't quite taken off yet. And I at that point was like,

could have stretched in maybe. And, um, Shane got away. Yeah. That's a 2 million car now. Yeah.

And I have stockwood silver. Good. Meanwhile, Mani's stockpiling SLR. I shouldn't have stockpiling

curgey teas. He messed up. I mean, he's like Michael Barry in the big short. He's not wrong.

He's just early. He's early. Yeah. He's early. And it's all going to work out for him eventually.

Nice. Great quote. Uh, here's a question for you guys on the subject of craziness.

ME020424 writes, uh, you said that in the past crazy nick is only at a 7 out of 10 for his YouTube

videos, which is true. By the way, he's crazy. You're on the pod. I think that he is in his own

videos. He almost needs people to like play off. Go tomorrow. Yeah. Like you, when we do, we did

this thing with the H2 on the desert. I, we got to edit some of it because it's not appropriate.

Look what? Um, the car maintenance habits of people in parts of this middle of the country,

we can't cover some of that. Um, but anyway, um, I don't recall that. I'll remind you off podcast.

But anyway, on the same scale, the question asks, how much crazier is dug in real life compared

to the podcast? Um, you are pretty crazy. And we do give him a lot of stick, but you have, uh,

it's fun setting you off. Like when you do, he says something you go,

Doug is crazy in some other ways. Like, I don't think people realize how deep your tennis

addiction really runs. Like, yeah, I only like to talk about cars. I don't really get into some

of the non-car stuff. I have some real passions and interests that have nothing to do with cars

that we never come. And they run deep. All of a sudden, who mentioned something, it's like,

what long form did he read today where he got into that? So there's some, there's, yeah,

Doug is a, a very crazy person as well. We're all pretty nuts in different ways.

I always describe you as you're exactly in your videos, how you are in real life.

You think so? I see zero difference. You are incredibly energetic and loud and fun,

but like over the top at all times. But I would argue though, in the main, the regular videos,

not as much like that as I am in the pod where I think my real, it's like how we all thought Jerry

Seinfeld was like a warm teddy bear nice guy until we saw a watching comedians and cars getting

coffee and we realized he hates everyone. I don't hate everyone to be clear. But I think there's

like a personality shift that was realized when I got in the pod. I feel like when you're on the

pod, you're not like really, you're maybe turning up the energy a little bit, but you're very high

energy. Like this is largely a representative sample. As it is of you. Yeah. This is real neck.

You come over. You compliment my home decor in the same calm manner that you speak here.

It's very consistent. This is great stuff. You love my nautical theme. This is great. I love

that you've hung this generic picture of a boat from home goods a little bit off center

on this wall. That's 10 times larger than the painting. This is great. That's what I say.

I have heard him say stuff like that before. Gosh, we did a walking tour of my neighborhood once

some dolly. That was it. I couldn't look at any of my neighbors in the eye. That was a tough

situation for everybody. I somewhat regret that, but also I couldn't stop it.

Next question from Benny T. Mostly for Doug, you have a short list of cars left after having so

many, you have a short list of cars left after having so many. What else is on it?

You know, it's an interesting point. I've started to realize that I don't have that many more cars left

that I actually want, which is a scary thought. I had made a list like 10 years ago of cars I

want. On that list, and I've kept it as an Apple note on my phone for 10 years, and on that list,

I have either crossed off or no longer desired almost every car. I'm not adding to it. I'm not

sitting here like, this came out. I really want that. It's getting slim, which is one of the reasons

I haven't sold any of my special cars. I don't find replacements that I'm really particularly

interested in. When I look at my list of cars that I want, this famous list that I have,

that I've been keeping for so long, the only things that I see that I really, really still want.

Some sort of Euro-only Mercedes AMG wagon, either a C55 from 2005 or a C43 from late 90s or an E55

from a 1. An EVO 6 left-hand drive in blue, they don't exist, basically. 996 GT2, 911.

Mark IV Super Turbo for sure. Mega, cruiser, R34 GTR, that's kind of it. That's like six cars,

right? And that's why I got my whole life left to live. What am I going to do in F40? I mean,

I got F40. I've got some expensive stuff on this list that would be amazing, but I couldn't afford

it then, can't afford it now. Probably never will, and I'm kind of okay with that. There's just not

all that much stuff that I'm particularly interested anymore. And that scares me. That literally

scares me as well. I'm not exaggerating. When I think about it, and cars aren't being built

that I sit here thinking, that's going to go on my list. Yeah, my list is not long either,

because I look at it. What do you have on you got a list? Of course. Yeah, and I made this

probably also about six, seven years ago. Six, seven. Actually, not many, only one. Only two.

Why are you like the guy? I don't know. You are a literal child.

So, yeah, so for me, the only BMW Z4M Roadster and Z8, really, two that are on there.

9M Coupe, Z4M Coupe? No, Roadster. I live in Southern California.

That's the coupe is cool. First gen V12 Vanquish S, CT5 V Blackwing, Dodge Viper, RT10 or SRT10,

575, 612, 599, Guard of Superlisher, First gen, LC500, 996 Turbo, 997.1 GT3, 981 Boxster Spider.

But those cars will last you a while. You don't want those every two years, you're good to your

60. There you go. I mean, yeah. Screwed. Yeah. Well, yes, we're different seasons of our lives.

I'm out. Yeah. This is it. I don't know what. We're not that different in age. I'm only seven

years old than you are. That's a pretty significant difference. I want a list like that.

Well, I'll send it to you. I'll take it to you. I think you're most incredibly long.

The problem is it's very long, although I realized part of the reason it's so long is I have

the blackwood in there twice. He wants it so much. However, I think the problem we were discussing

off-pot is as you ascend the ranks of automotive vehicles, it's hard to take back steps, right? The

of the Termicobro, for instance, like we wanted that forever, but if you've had a Ford GT,

it's a huge step backwards and you're never going to drive it. Yeah. Same with the

multiple. It's cool, but would I have an SLR and a P-38 and all these amazing vehicles to choose

from? It's hard to choose the multiple. So that out of the way, that's a point that is real.

I think about that a lot. There are cars on this list that I really idolized at one point,

but I look at it. Now, multiple was on my list, but I look at it now and I'm like, I know what

that's going to be like and I'm just not going to. Been there done that. Yeah. I think that's why all

these brands are coming out that are like the SSC to Attara and the Aspark Owl. For people who

just, they got it all, what else is out there? Yeah, they need something more exotic and ridiculous

and so unless it has 2000 horsepower and a 13-speed manual transmission, they're not interested.

Yeah. So I will say I'm surprised at your list, like a Chrysler ME 412. I do think that a lot

of our list will be a change if our financial crisis is changed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If you'd be on

the list and so I mean, yeah. Like, if I had a ton more money, there would be more cars,

not as many as I wish, but like if you had, you'd have F40, etc. It's like power bowls at a billion

dollars. Yeah. If I won that, like, it would be, yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'd chop in an F50 next

week. You know, it would almost be sad that it would be speedboat season, you know? It would

almost be sad though because don't you think that we would eventually get to the same place with

infinite money that we've gotten to without infinite money? Yeah. You know, I think sort of,

you know, I think we're intellectual. I like to think we're intellectual enough

I think it would balloon like this and then we kind of pair down and you just end up with a 993 turbo.

But that's kind of my point. Like in 10 years after you had infinite money, you'd sit there

and be like, yeah, I have the extra to do whatever. And you know what? I didn't want any of those

cars and there's still nothing that I want. And now I have infinite money and there's still

nothing that I want. That'd be sad. I almost don't want infinite money for that reason.

I always, I would be nice to have something to aspire to. I think I'll take the infinite

money. That sounds pretty good. I have a suspicion that even with all of them, and I've seen

this with car collectors that I know who have crazy money. They get the F-40, the F-50, the Enzo,

all the cars, and then eventually they're like, well, the salt and the brownie is the best example.

He got so bored. He just had almost all the guys I know who are in that circumstance moved on

to something like the salt, not paying the Rolls Royce to develop their own cars, but like

one-offs or weird customs or whatever that like other guys couldn't, rich guys couldn't have.

Right. You know, the salt and brownie was Prince Jeffrey was doing this thing today.

Do you think he'd be getting invites with CVK over Instagram?

How sick would that be?

Yes, absolutely.

Wouldn't that be like that would be something about entertainment?

The salt and would be like the UAE, honestly, be at the Middle East, like it'd be like rich people

there. It'd be great. It'd be, oh my god. And it'd be hard to keep those cars off Insta.

He wouldn't keep those cars off Insta.

No, I think he would have. He wouldn't want to be in power, yeah.

He did everything to early. Nick, what's on your list?

I mean, do you want the serious cars or the obtainable cars?

Hit me with 10 randoms. Let me have, you got it up.

You got it up? Let me, let me, let me say it.

Let me say it. Let me, oh my god. Oh my god. Okay.

C5 RS6, stick swap. CLS 55. What?

What? Really?

That's a 63, which was more powerful.

The same five with the M1310.

We're allowed. Yeah, okay.

Okay. Funkmaster Flex Ford Expedition.

That'll be a car immediately disappointed.

But it was just an experiment with different paint.

It was two. That's it though.

The F5 Math logo. Otherwise, it's like a 2012 Ford Expedition.

You may not appreciate the finer details of Funkmaster Flex, but some of us do.

O2 to O6 Jaguar XKR. That's the bad, the previous body.

You know, I like the previous body, but O2 is a facelift,

and they took care of some issues.

I actually really liked the 96.97s.

ML 55 or 63 radically different cars.

X5 4.8, but he doesn't want the 4.6, the better-looking one.

Oh, well.

Pajero EVO.

Oh my god.

He wrote M-coop, and then he wrote S-52 or S-54.

In other words, M-coop.

He's got some check.

Well, I wanted to remind myself not to be too snobbish,

that the 52 is probably five.

He has one here. P-38 check.

Another P-38 check.

And he has hopefully one more P-38.

430 Scoode Conversion 575 Conversion 599 Conversion, okay.

R-63.

Any progress on the R-63 front?

No, there is literally one for sale, and it's puter,

and I don't want puters.

Yeah, you don't.

I have been there, done that.

Yeah, yeah.

You didn't, you didn't never see my puter stage, Megan.

You should have.

Would have turned you off puter even more.

Yeah.

Four Ranger Splash Flare Side.

Go to the site with this one.

Ideally in yellow.

Yeah, but the red looked pretty good.

Type in Ranger Splat.

This is another one of those Nostalgic.

Here, that's it.

Yeah, the white one's pretty good,

although again, yellow or red, ideally.

Well, that was in the Hoya.

Yeah, yeah.

This is a two-wheel drive.

You could have been there, dude.

I know.

This is a terrible driving experience.

I'm sure.

I mean, go to the interior.

You remember this interior?

Yeah, it's a Ford Explorer 91 and 94.

Yep, yeah.

Anytime I see, it's funny, because so many cars, the outside,

you look okay, and then you look at the interior,

and it's like, I know what that feels like.

I know what that, I know what that smell

is like.

I don't want anything to do with that car.

I would love to get one.

Like, it doesn't have to be a flair side or a splash,

because I don't want to ruin an important car.

But I would like to get a pickup one day

that's like body dropped and can lay for it.

Shave door handles, like just go full-blown,

like mini truck nationals circa 2004.

God.

All right, folks, this being the Christmas episode,

I want to stop a little early today,

because we received some gifts,

some holiday gifts from some viewers.

Yes, we did.

Ken would do like to show us what people have sent us.

And by the way, if you're at home and you're thinking

you want to send us something, don't.

Instead, send us an email to Sean at carsandbids.com.

That's S-E-A-N Sean at carsandbids.com.

All right, we have several gifts.

So one of them is a Nissan Armada Cologne.

You're kidding.

Now, I'm guessing that that smells like...

Claw.

Uber.

Like, someone trying to cover up mental smells.

I was going to say, you've got the best financial decisions

and going way too fast on the highway.

But yeah, fascinating.

How greenlit this at Nissan?

They're that desperate to...

This must have been...

These are just newer old.

Hard to tell, it's still shrink wrap.

All right, Nick.

Huh?

Try it.

No, we're not doing it.

I'm not taking out a box, you kid.

This is high quality stuff.

I'll try it if it's that late for you.

Nick, given that this is the Nissan Armada,

what are the three languages on the bottom

that it's been that the warning has been translated into?

All Eastern European.

Beyond that, I don't know.

Polish.

No, come on, check.

Where is the Armada the most popular?

Well, I assume Japan, because it's a Japanese vehicle.

The first language on here, it texts Arabic.

Arabic?

Okay, yeah, oh yeah, sand dunes.

And then it's Frencheningly.

This is the greatest gift we've ever been given.

Nissan Armada Cologne, this is the kind of thing

they give you at press launches.

Folks, I don't go to automotive press launches anymore,

but my biggest regret not going to the press launches

is that I don't get gifts anymore.

They used to give me the worst gifts you could imagine,

and I've saved them all, and I have some wild gifts.

Like my Nissan Z sushi knife, remember that?

Oh, that's a good one.

That's a really good one.

But although you don't get those gifts anymore,

we do have more gifts that people have sent us.

What's this one?

This one, I don't know, maybe these are spiders.

I have no idea what these are,

but they sent us a little card as well.

In a baggie, I will let you read it.

This is good, it's like anthrax.

Anthrax in here.

Dear Doug, Canon and Filippo and Crazy Nick,

I hope you enjoy opening the finest collection

of 20-year-old authentic imported cars

direct from Albania.

Oh my god.

Not anthrax.

And it comes with a sport.

Oh, it comes with a proflade.

No way!

This is an overhand one.

This one has Italian plates on it.

That one, those are quite good plates for them.

Oh, and then here's a non-crossed bed.

You're kidding.

Some got, okay, wait, this came from Jason in Albania

and they're cars in eggs and they're,

this one is fake.

This is something.

Oh my god, that one's broken apart.

This is the greatest gift I've ever seen.

The crossplate is the coolest.

Jason is actually a doctor in Farmington, Utah.

Oh, this is a smart 4-4.

God, this is bad.

They go nuts.

That weird car shone once.

The Renault sports spider.

Let me see.

Is that a sports spider?

That's a smart one.

That's a road-married road steering.

Okay.

Close enough.

They're easily stumbledable, too.

This is amazing.

This is the greatest gift that anyone's ever given me,

even better than the Colone.

Nick, can you see in this?

You see, you don't get press launches,

but you're not getting this stuff in press launches.

This is one of those, what was this thing called?

A kind of nice stick for,

stick with YouTube for another 10, 12 years.

We might be getting stuff like that.

They're sending this to all of us.

He says, dear Doug Kenan,

Filippo and Crazy Nick,

and he spelled all of our names right.

He put no one.

No one does that.

Thank you very much.

That's very kind of you.

That's a detail it's often missed.

This is, I know, Filippo's name has never been...

Oh, I've seen so many times.

Yeah, I mean...

Don't open my god.

Nick, this was going to go in my press launch collection.

Can we just show how...

Like, this is pretty nice.

All right, Nicky.

All right, since you've opened it,

let's spray a little bit.

Don't not on me.

On your wrist, on your wrist.

On your wrist, what are you doing?

Oh, he's just embracing it.

Let's leave.

They're supposed to do it.

Well, if you like how it smells.

If you like it smells,

I mean, if you're feeling like an armada.

These are the greatest things I've ever been given.

Dude, I'm taking the Smart Crossblade home.

This is so cool.

That's what you can't smell.

I can't smell, yeah.

I forgot.

Do you see the Smart Crossblade human people?

No.

Not great.

It's too small.

And you know what, that's what makes it so great.

You agree, these are the greatest gifts

you've ever been given.

Well, I don't know.

We got more time.

It doesn't end there.

Wait, hang on, hang on.

There's an explanation for these gifts.

So I gave you a part of a Whistland Diesel G-Wagon.

Magic Kinder.

They're Kinder eggs with smart cars in them.

Let's figure this one is for you, specifically.

This is a bath mat.

A bath mat.

A shaped like what appears to be a low body kuntosh.

It's my kuntosh.

You've seen it?

It looks low body to me.

No, no, take, pick it up.

It's mine.

Pick it up on that side.

This would be good when you get out of your car

wearing only socks.

This is a five liter.

That's so true.

Put it out and then you can clean your socks off before we end up.

That's such a great point.

This is really good.

Show them.

Yeah, this is great.

That is legit.

This is not a low body, this is a low body.

This is exactly my car.

It looks a little white, black, white wheels.

It's very cool.

It's very soft too.

Very fluffy.

Yeah.

We've got to use it on our bathroom here in the office.

You know what, we might actually.

But there's one more, and this one is probably the most impressive.

This is the most impressive.

I have to be very careful.

I want to cross-play it again.

I'm putting it back on the list.

Yeah.

This is an F40 LM.

This is made by a viewer in New York.

And he put this together completely out of cardboard and he did it completely himself.

There's nothing like that was bought and put on here.

He made everything himself from like the calipers, the wheels, the engine compartment.

Because we cannot have an F40, we have this instead.

We have this F40 LM, which is so cool.

I have a very specific honorary place.

I'd like to put it in our office.

But this is really amazing.

It's not going to go behind the pod studio.

Well, it's rooms getting tight back there.

I might be able to see this.

We have some of the most bizarre and interesting car stuff that has ever existed.

Where did we get that piston?

That was from...

Hold on, this one.

This is from...

The car, if it's very difficult.

This is from one of our employees named Colton.

It's from an engine that he blew up.

And so that is a twisted connecting rod.

That's a lot of force.

That is a lot of force.

I mean, there's where the valve met the piston.

I mean, that's a tough loss.

I mean, even when you money shifted, you didn't do this.

Nope.

I just tried some piston rings.

Not this bad, like this is.

Because I didn't money shifted.

It was some detonating due to a faulty turn.

Had I money shifted, it would have been a lot harder to rebuild.

These are all great gifts.

We love all the weird car stuff we have here.

Obviously, the greatest gift we've ever been given is each other

on this holiday season and also this crossplay.

No, this F40 is very cool.

You have a place for it.

It will live in our office for it.

It will live in our office with tremendous honor.

It is really cool.

Again, if you want to send us gifts,

the address to send them is Sean at carsandbids.com.

S-E-A-N at carsandbids.com.

That's where you send them to.

This was our podcast with questions.

Nick, do you have any parting thoughts?

No, I was just wondering what automotive gifts I've given or received that were good.

It's very hard to buy and gift for cars.

You gave us my very favorite gift on this podcast.

Do you remember what it was?

The G-Bagon.

Whistlin Diesel.

No taxi Vader.

Just kidding.

Free Whistlin.

There it is.

He destroyed a G-Wagon, which I'm sure was titled in Montana.

And we have a portion of it right here.

Right.

Obviously, I'm a huge Whistlin fan, as I've mentioned many times in the pot,

which by the way, when I ever I say it, the amount of people in the comments

were like, I lost all respect for Doug.

Yikes.

Anyway, this was a gift that you gave us, and it's amazing.

Yeah.

We've kind of had a little bit of a truce inside of the group on giving each other gifts,

because everyone one and buys everything they want.

But two, I think, just a very difficult crowd.

The gift card we got for you the one year,

so that you could get around your budget cap on maintenance.

It was a good one.

This year didn't work.

Yeah, yeah.

You know how we all think out around that?

You got a second card.

It's just better to put some money on that instead.

Maybe he's like,

pad the invoice on this one by a grander than you can put it in a bottle.

I have done a great job sticking to it.

Just write a line, man.

Don't write which cards.

We'll review in the new year where they're across the line or not.

I think, was it you that got Sam?

It was like a cameo's of like Parker Neuronstein.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's birthday.

Do you remember this?

Oh, yeah.

I got Parker.

But then I was worried Parker wouldn't get back,

so I also got a second card from him.

And bully him.

That's right.

Yeah.

Does that still a thing?

It's still around.

But I think it's not like it was doing COVID.

Yeah, it was great.

That was a great gift by you.

Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays.

Happy Hanukkah.

Happy New Year's.

You know, the Merry Christmas.

Happy holidays thing I never got.

Because there are two holidays.

It's even the people who are all Christmassy.

It's Christmas and New Year's.

That's the whole.

No, in Hanukkah.

Well, no, I know, but people are like,

I'm not going to say anything other than Merry Christmas.

In Festivist.

But even the Merry Christmas people,

New Year's is a holiday that is also a day off at this time.

I've never understood that.

So you're happy holidays.

Happy holidays.

Nothing for a new year.

It includes Merry Christmas.

You understand what I'm saying?

It's just a Larry David level of specialty.

But you get my point.

You get my point.

So it's like, oh, I'm not going to say anything with Merry Christmas.

Well, you're not wishing me a happy New Year.

You're sitting here, you're not wishing me a happy New Year.

You're saying a bad New Year?

That's that is some bad.

I'm offended.

Goodbye, everyone.

Goodbye.

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