Can The 911 GT3 S/C Be A Real GT3? — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 234
About this episode
The hosts tackle two very different frustrations: OBD2 emissions “readiness monitors” and Porsche’s new 911 GT3 S/C convertible controversy. Jason and Derek explain why setting EVAP monitors can require absurd, tightly sequenced drive cycles—sometimes hundreds of miles—plus how battery resets wipe monitor memory. Jason recounts a VR6-swapped VW Cabrio nightmare involving a stubborn pending EVAP issue and smoke-testing. Derek then debates whether a convertible GT3 can be “pure,” arguing Porsche’s GT3 identity is track-focused, while others point to Ferrari’s precedent for open versions. They end by comparing regulatory headaches and enthusiast culture to the GT3 debate.
Volkswagen Cabrio
"That behind me is a 1996 Volkswagen Cabrio with a VR6 Swap."
This is a Volkswagen Cabrio—basically a convertible version of a Golf-era car. In this story, the car has been modified so it drives more like a sporty hatchback than a normal convertible.
The Volkswagen Cabrio is a factory-style cabriolet/convertible platform, and here it’s specifically a 1996 example. In this episode it’s described as having an engine swap, turning it into something closer to a performance “hot hatch” concept than a typical open-top cruiser.
VR6 Swap
"That behind me is a 1996 Volkswagen Cabrio with a VR6 Swap. Effectively a Volkswagen Mark III GTI VR6 with the roof chopped off."
A “VR6 swap” means the car was modified to use a Volkswagen VR6 engine instead of whatever it came with. It’s a common enthusiast upgrade because the VR6 is powerful and fits well in many older VW engine bays.
A VR6 swap means replacing the original engine with Volkswagen’s VR6 engine family. The VR6 is known for its compact packaging (a narrow-angle V configuration) which lets it fit in bays that might not accept a larger straight-six.
roof chopped off
"Effectively a Volkswagen Mark III GTI VR6 with the roof chopped off. Convertible they never made. A hot hatch that is no longer hatchy."
This phrase means the car was modified to remove the roof, turning it into a convertible. Cutting up a car like that can change how stiff it feels and how it handles compared to a normal car with a full roof.
“Roof chopped off” is a shorthand for converting a coupe/hatch into a convertible by removing the roof structure. This kind of modification changes the car’s structure and can affect rigidity, safety, and how the suspension feels compared with a factory convertible.
hot hatch that is no longer hatchy
"Convertible they never made. A hot hatch that is no longer hatchy. I unhot hatched my, hot hatched."
A hot hatch is a small car that’s made to be fun and quick. Here they’re joking that the car still has the sporty vibe, but it’s not a hatchback anymore because it’s been turned into a convertible.
A “hot hatch” is a compact hatchback tuned for performance, typically with a sporty engine and suspension. Calling it “no longer hatchy” highlights how the enthusiast intent (sporty driving) remains, but the body style (hatchback practicality) is removed by making it a convertible.
emissions controls
"We're gonna talk about the emissions controls that are on all of your cars. I think 1996 and later has a system called OBD2."
Emissions controls are the systems that reduce pollutants from a car’s exhaust, such as catalytic converters, oxygen sensors, and related controls. The hosts are framing this as a major reason modern cars have complex diagnostics and “nightmare” troubleshooting.
OBD2
"We're gonna talk about the emissions controls that are on all of your cars. I think 1996 and later has a system called OBD2. We'll talk a little bit about the background of that, what it exists, why it exists and why it's a fucking nightmare."
OBD-II (On-Board Diagnostics, second generation) is the standardized emissions and engine diagnostic system used on most cars from the mid-1990s onward. It’s designed to monitor emissions-related components and store trouble codes, but it can be frustrating because codes can be triggered by many causes and vary by vehicle.
Porsche
"And then we'll talk about Derek's favorite topic. Porsche. Squished Beetles. Specifically the forthcoming convertible GT3."
Porsche is a German brand famous for performance cars like the 911. The hosts are about to talk about a Porsche model idea—specifically a GT3 convertible.
Porsche is the German sports-car maker known for the 911 and GT models. Here, the hosts pivot to Porsche specifically, setting up a discussion about a rumored or upcoming 911 GT3 convertible.
Volkswagen Beetle
"Porsche. Squished Beetles. Specifically the forthcoming convertible GT3."
The Volkswagen Beetle is a small, classic car made by Volkswagen. It’s known for its simple design and distinctive shape. The podcast brings it up as a comparison point to other cars with “sports” styling or concepts.
The Volkswagen Beetle is a long-running compact, air-cooled rear-engine car that became an icon for its simple, durable design. In the podcast context, it’s mentioned alongside “squished Beetles,” which highlights how the Beetle’s shape and packaging can be compared or contrasted with other sports-car-like ideas. It’s likely discussed as a reference point for what a small, open-to-interpretation “sports” or performance look can mean.
convertible GT3
"Porsche. Squished Beetles. Specifically the forthcoming convertible GT3."
A “convertible GT3” is basically a GT3-style sports car but with the roof that can open. The big question is whether it can still feel as solid and track-capable as a normal GT3.
A “convertible GT3” refers to the idea of taking Porsche’s GT3 track-focused formula and removing the fixed roof. That raises real questions about whether the car can still deliver the same rigidity, handling feel, and track performance that define a GT3.
monitors
"Would you like to explain to our friends at home what monitors are and why they're stupid? The first time I learned about this, I was buying a used 1996 Porsche and I brought a check and it was at a dealer and they were like, you can't take it away because we can't get it to small because the monitors aren't set."
“Monitors” are the car’s self-checks for emissions equipment. If the car hasn’t finished those self-checks yet, it can fail an emissions test or cause paperwork problems at the dealer.
In OBD-II emissions systems, “monitors” are readiness tests the car runs to verify components and sensors are working (for example, catalyst and evaporative system checks). If the monitors aren’t “set” (not completed), the vehicle may fail emissions inspection or be treated as not ready, even if it drives normally.
OBD1
"In OBD2 cars, the car was in 96, which is the first year of OBD2 before that was OBD1..."
OBD1 is an older version of the car’s self-diagnostics. It wasn’t as standardized as OBD2, so it could be tougher to read and interpret problems.
OBD1 refers to earlier, less standardized onboard diagnostics used before OBD2. Because it wasn’t uniform across manufacturers, diagnosing emissions issues was often harder and required brand-specific tools and procedures.
smog check
"Smog used to be conducted by just smelling what was coming out of the exhaust pipe... And then you don't need a Smog check anymore. Somebody else does. Your errors."
A smog check is an emissions compliance test used to verify that a vehicle’s exhaust and emissions systems are functioning properly. The transcript contrasts older “sniffing” methods with modern diagnostics that can determine issues by reading onboard error information.
emissions systems
"...include an onboard diagnostics system to monitor the emissions systems on your car."
“Emissions systems” refers to the hardware and controls that reduce pollutants—such as sensors, catalytic converters, and related control modules. OBD2 monitors these systems and flags faults that could cause the car to fail emissions testing.
diagnostic port
"...but when OBD2 came out, they had a standardized diagnostic port"
The diagnostic port is where a scanner plugs into your car to talk to its computer. It lets a shop read error codes and figure out what’s going on.
The OBD2 diagnostic port is the standardized connector used to communicate with the car’s computer. A scan tool plugs in to read stored codes and live sensor data, which is crucial for emissions testing and troubleshooting.
diagnostic tool
"[235.0s] that anyone with the little diagnostic tool [238.0s] was used in every car. [240.0s] And it has like a standardized set of monitors"
A diagnostic tool is a scanner that plugs into the car. It can read stored warning codes so you can figure out what system is causing the issue.
A diagnostic tool (scan tool) reads OBD2 data such as stored trouble codes and monitor status. It’s used to pinpoint which system is failing and whether the car’s self-tests have completed.
evap
"[255.0s] Yeah, so evap is the one [258.0s] that is often problematic. [260.0s] There's, I don't know,"
EVAP is the system that keeps fuel vapors from escaping into the air. It’s often the one that causes warning codes because a small leak or a faulty valve can set it off.
“EVAP” refers to the evaporative emissions system, which captures fuel vapors from the tank and routes them for combustion instead of venting to the atmosphere. EVAP monitors are commonly flagged because small leaks or sensor/valve issues can trigger trouble codes.
battery disconnected resets readiness/learned status
"[270.0s] the car loses all memories [275.0s] of whether those systems are functioning [277.0s] and you have to drive the car"
If you disconnect the battery, the car can forget what it has already checked. After that, you have to drive it so the computer can run its self-tests again.
When the battery is disconnected, the car’s computer can lose “learned” data and reset diagnostic readiness. That means monitors may show as incomplete until the vehicle is driven through the conditions needed for each system test to run again.
drive cycle
"And depending on the car, you have to do what's called a drive cycle, which is a... I don't know, it's 45 minutes probably to do the standard drive cycle and it'll be very specific where it'll be like start the car from stone cold..."
A drive cycle is a set routine for how you start and drive the car so its computer can run emissions tests. The car needs certain temperatures and fuel levels before it will check everything. That’s why the instructions sound very exact.
A drive cycle is a standardized sequence of starting, idling, and driving conditions used to test a car’s emissions and onboard diagnostic systems. Because sensors and monitors only run when the engine and environment are within specific ranges, the procedure ensures the ECU can complete its checks. Different vehicles can have different drive-cycle requirements, which is why the steps are so tightly specified.
stone cold
"...it'll be very specific where it'll be like start the car from stone cold where the coolant temperature must be below 40 degrees Celsius..."
“Stone cold” just means the car has been sitting long enough that the engine is basically at the outside temperature. Some tests only work correctly when the engine starts from that cold baseline. So the procedure starts with a cold start on purpose.
“Stone cold” means the engine is started after sitting long enough to reach near-ambient temperature, not after being warmed up. Many diagnostic and emissions monitors require a cold start so the ECU can observe how systems behave from their baseline. That’s why drive cycles often specify coolant temperature thresholds before testing begins.
coolant temperature
"...start the car from stone cold where the coolant temperature must be below 40 degrees Celsius and then idle it for 30 seconds."
Coolant temperature is how hot the engine’s cooling liquid is. The car’s computer uses it to know whether the engine is cold or warm. Drive-cycle tests specify coolant temperature so the computer can run the checks under the right conditions.
Coolant temperature is the temperature of the engine’s liquid cooling system, measured by sensors and used by the ECU to decide when monitors can run. In drive cycles, coolant temperature thresholds (like “below 40°C”) ensure the engine starts from a consistent thermal state. This matters because emissions behavior and sensor readings change as the engine warms up.
ambient air temperature
"...And within four degrees or five degrees of ambient air temperature. And the fuel level must be between one quarter and three quarters in the tank..."
Ambient air temperature is just the outside temperature. It changes how the car behaves and how fast it warms up. So the test procedure tries to keep the conditions consistent by matching the engine behavior to the outside temperature.
Ambient air temperature is the outside temperature around the car, and it affects how quickly the engine and emissions systems warm up. Drive cycles often require the test to occur within a narrow band relative to ambient temperature so results are repeatable. That’s why the procedure references being within a few degrees of the ambient reading.
fuel level
"...And the fuel level must be between one quarter and three quarters in the tank and then idle it for 30 seconds..."
Fuel level is how much gas is in the tank. The car’s computer uses fuel information as part of its emissions checks, so the test wants you to be in a certain range. That way the results are more consistent.
Fuel level is the amount of fuel in the tank, and it can influence emissions testing because the ECU uses fuel-related sensors and models during diagnostics. Drive cycles specify a fuel band (e.g., one quarter to three quarters) to keep the test conditions consistent and reduce variability. This helps ensure the onboard monitors run correctly and comparably.
throttle (25 percent throttle)
"...and then drive using no more than 25 percent throttle to accelerate to a speed..."
Throttle position indicates how much the driver is requesting airflow and engine load. In drive cycles, limiting throttle (like “no more than 25 percent throttle”) controls engine load so the ECU can run monitors under defined operating conditions. Keeping load consistent improves repeatability of emissions and diagnostic results.
Ferrari 360
"...it's like a mechanic doing it to your car and it's like a Ferrari 360 with 9,000 miles and you put a thousand miles on it trying to get the monitors to set so you can smog it."
The Ferrari 360 is a classic Ferrari sports car. Here it’s mentioned to show that even a low-mileage exotic can require special driving so its emissions system is considered ready for testing.
The Ferrari 360 is a mid-engine sports car from Ferrari, known for its naturally aspirated V8 and enthusiast-focused driving feel. In this context, it’s used as an example of a low-mileage car that still needs emissions readiness work to pass smog.
emissions effectively
"[379.0s] So, your car is constantly monitoring [380.0s] its emissions effectively [381.0s] looking at the mixture"
The car constantly checks how cleanly it’s burning fuel. It uses sensors to make sure the exhaust matches what the emissions rules expect.
When the host says the car is monitoring emissions “effectively,” they’re describing how the powertrain control module uses sensors and diagnostic logic to confirm the engine is burning fuel in a way that meets emissions targets. This is typically tied to OBD-style checks and sensor feedback loops.
oxygen sensor
"[386.0s] looking at the mixture [387.0s] that's coming out of the exhaust [388.0s] with an oxygen sensor. [389.0s] It's looking for the presence of oxygen"
The oxygen sensor checks what’s coming out of the exhaust. If there’s too much oxygen, the car knows the mixture isn’t right and can adjust it to burn fuel more cleanly.
An oxygen sensor (often called an O2 sensor) measures how much oxygen is in the exhaust. The engine computer uses that feedback to infer whether the air-fuel mixture is rich or lean, which helps control emissions and performance.
Volkswagen Jetta
"This is the 1998 JETTA GLX VR6. It was the donor car for this fucking nightmare project."
This is a 1998 Volkswagen Jetta GLX with a VR6 engine. In the story, the owner is using it as a donor car and paying attention to the car’s emissions computer checks (like EVAP monitors).
The Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6 (1998) is a late-90s compact sedan powered by VW’s VR6 engine, known for its compact V-angle design. In the segment, it’s used as the donor car for a project, and its EVAP/OBD-II monitor behavior is part of the troubleshooting.
pending codes
"I made sure that it had no codes in the system, no pending codes, and all of the monitors were set."
Pending codes are OBD-II diagnostic trouble codes that have been detected but not confirmed strongly enough to trigger a full “confirmed” check-engine status. They can indicate an intermittent fault and may affect emissions readiness or test outcomes.
raw hydrocarbons
"So, unburned fuel that's leaking out of the fuel system into the environment. It's raw hydrocarbons. It's terrible for the environment."
Raw hydrocarbons are basically unburned fuel vapors getting out into the air. They’re bad for the environment and air quality.
Raw hydrocarbons are unburned fuel molecules that escape into the environment, typically from leaks or vapor venting. They’re harmful because they contribute to air pollution and can form smog-related compounds.
Bellows
"This is the same reason why on California fuel pumps there is this... Bellows. Thank you."
A “bellows” is a stretchy, accordion-like seal. In this context, it helps the gas pump nozzle fit tightly so fuel vapors don’t leak out while you’re filling the tank.
Here, “bellows” refers to a flexible seal/boot at the fuel pump nozzle area that helps manage vapor flow during refueling. It’s part of the hardware that maintains a controlled connection between the nozzle and the vehicle’s fueling system to reduce evaporative emissions.
actively sucking in vapors
"So, it's actively... In exactly the same measure as the fuel is coming out, the volume of fuel is coming out of the fuel dispenser, it is sucking in. So, as you're replacing air volume in the tank,"
The description matches a vapor-recovery style refueling system: as liquid fuel flows into the tank, the system draws in displaced air/vapors from the tank side. That prevents vapors from venting to the atmosphere and routes them back into the fuel delivery system for capture.
positive pressure pump
"It's either a vacuum or a positive pressure. [523.0s] This is a positive pressure pump. [525.0s] That will pressurize the entire fuel system."
A positive pressure pump is a device that pushes air into a system to make it pressurized. Here, it’s used to run a leak test by pressurizing the tank area so the car can see if pressure holds.
A positive pressure pump is used to raise pressure in a system above atmospheric pressure. In this context, it’s part of an evaporative/fuel-system leak check that pressurizes the tank’s air space to a target level before monitoring it.
fuel system pressure test
"This is a positive pressure pump. [525.0s] That will pressurize the entire fuel system. [528.0s] And not... [529.0s] I'm not talking about the fuel itself, [530.0s] but the air that's in the tank to one PSI"
Cars sometimes run a test to see if there’s a leak in the fuel-related parts. They pressurize the system and check if the pressure stays steady—if it doesn’t, the car assumes something is leaking.
This describes a leak-check routine where the car pressurizes the fuel system (or the vapor/air space around the fuel) and watches whether pressure holds. If pressure drops over a set time, the car concludes there’s a leak and flags it.
diagnostic trouble code
"If that pressure starts to fall off, [541.0s] then it has a leak. [544.0s] And then it throws a code."
A diagnostic trouble code is the car’s way of saving an error message. If the leak test fails, the car stores a code that tells a mechanic what system to check.
A diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a stored fault identifier that corresponds to a specific detected issue. When the car’s pressure/leak test fails, it records a code so the problem can be diagnosed later with a scan tool.
OBD readiness / monitor completion
"And so, what this thing will do, the drive cycle for this to set the EVAP monitor is, you have to start it from cold... and completed cycles."
Your car keeps track of emissions tests it has run. When those tests finish successfully, the car marks them as “ready,” which can matter for inspections and whether a check-engine light is considered resolved.
Emissions monitors like the EVAP monitor are designed to run and then report “ready” once the test conditions are met. Many inspection programs use this readiness status to determine whether the vehicle’s emissions system can be verified.
secondary air pump
"But I'd offer two minutes to two to three minutes, and that's so the secondary air pump will run and completed cycles."
The secondary air pump helps the exhaust system clean up emissions right after you start the car. It adds extra air so the catalytic converter can work more effectively while the engine is still warming up.
The secondary air pump injects fresh air into the exhaust system during cold-start and certain warm-up conditions. This helps the catalytic converter reach operating temperature faster and improves emissions performance early in the drive.
coolant reaches 80 degrees Celsius
"And then you drive it until the coolant reaches 80 degrees Celsius. And at that point, you drive four to five miles at 45 to 55 miles an hour..."
The car uses coolant temperature as a “warm-up” indicator. Reaching a target temperature like 80°C helps make sure the emissions tests run under the right conditions.
Many emissions drive cycles depend on engine coolant temperature because it correlates with how warm the engine and exhaust system are. Hitting a specific temperature (like 80°C) ensures the car can run certain tests reliably and safely.
deceleration / lift-off on level ground (fifth gear)
"...cruising at 60, between 60 and 65 miles an hour, in fifth gear, you let off the gas pedal on level ground and you don't touch a thing"
They’re describing a very controlled driving moment: same speed, same gear, then letting off the gas without changing anything else. That steadiness helps the car’s systems run their checks the way they’re supposed to.
The described procedure—cruising at a set speed in a specific gear, then lifting off the throttle on level ground—can be used to create consistent engine load and deceleration conditions. That consistency helps emissions monitors and fuel/air control strategies behave predictably during the test.
idle
"[602.0s] until you get down to 18 miles an hour, [604.0s] which in this car is idle. [606.0s] That takes a long distance."
Idle is when the engine is running while the car is stopped. The car is basically “waiting,” usually at low engine speed, and some sensors and emissions systems only show problems in this mode.
“Idle” is when the engine is running but the car isn’t moving, typically at a low RPM. It’s important for diagnosing drivability and emissions issues because many systems behave differently at idle versus cruising.
engine swap
"[631.0s] I've asked them about it and I've done this [629.0s] 200,000 fucking times. [633.0s] After 400 and something miles [636.0s] of driving this engine swap [639.0s] with no codes, no pending codes,"
An engine swap means putting a different engine into a car that didn’t originally have it. Even if the engine runs, the car’s computer has to be set up correctly so it doesn’t think something is wrong.
An engine swap is replacing the original engine with a different one, often from another car or a different configuration. It can be done cleanly, but it usually requires matching wiring, sensors, and engine management so the car’s computer can run without faults.
smokechecked the car
"[649.0s] So I smokechecked the car, [651.0s] meaning that I put one PSI of pressure [653.0s] on the entire intake system and everything else. [655.0s] So the way that you would do this"
“Smokechecking” is a leak-detection method where a technician introduces smoke into a system (often the intake or vacuum lines) to see where it escapes. If smoke leaks out, it reveals cracks, loose connections, or other unsealed paths that can cause trouble codes.
intake system
"[651.0s] meaning that I put one PSI of pressure [653.0s] on the entire intake system and everything else. [655.0s] So the way that you would do this"
The intake system is the route air travels to the engine. If there’s a leak somewhere in that path, the engine can get the wrong amount of air and the car may log a fault.
The intake system is the path air takes from the intake opening through to the engine’s combustion chambers. Leaks in the intake tract can cause incorrect air metering, drivability issues, and diagnostic trouble codes.
vacuum leaks
"Because you're looking at the fuel system. [681.0s] Oh, I'm looking for vacuum leaks. [683.0s] When I'm looking for vacuum leaks, that's what I would do."
A vacuum leak is like a small air “hole” in the engine’s hoses. Instead of the engine pulling air in the right way, it sucks in extra air, which can make the car run rough or throw codes.
A vacuum leak is any unintended opening in the engine’s intake/vacuum plumbing that lets air enter where the engine expects vacuum. It can cause lean running, unstable idle, and trouble codes because the engine’s air-fuel calculations are thrown off.
purge valve that goes to the outside
"[703.0s] that sends that pressure outside to the environment [705.0s] and it's got a little vent tube to do that. [708.0s] So you have to make sure one of those is pressurized, [711.0s] which is energized,"
This valve controls where the fuel vapor pressure goes. One path helps send vapors into the engine, and the other path vents/controls them so the system works correctly.
The “purge valve that goes to the outside” is part of the EVAP system’s venting strategy, controlling where vapor pressure is allowed to go. Depending on design, one valve routes vapors into the intake for burning, while another vents/controls pressure to the atmosphere via a vent tube.
normally open
"[711.0s] which is energized, [713.0s] which is the purge valve that goes to the outside, [716.0s] because that's normally open"
“Normally open” means the valve is open when it’s not powered. When it’s powered (energized), it changes state, which affects how vapors move.
“Normally open” describes the valve’s default state when it’s not energized electrically. That matters for EVAP diagnostics because the system’s pressure/flow direction changes depending on whether the valve is powered.
Schrader valve
"So the first thing I do is I pull off, there's a Schrader valve on this, like a little tire valve basically where you can pressurize."
A Schrader valve is like the little valve stem on a tire. It lets you add pressure so you can check whether something is leaking.
A Schrader valve is a small check valve used on many tires and some automotive systems. In this context, it’s a service port you can pressurize to test for leaks.
vacuum hose
"I don't have that fitting. So I pull off a vacuum hose, shove the little smoke machine in there, let it pressurize for,"
A vacuum hose is a small tube that moves low-pressure air. In this case, it’s used to hook up a tool to test for leaks.
A vacuum hose carries suction/low pressure from one part of an engine or emissions system to another. Here, it’s being used as an access point to connect a leak-testing setup.
smoke machine leak test
"shove the little smoke machine in there, let it pressurize for, I let it go for 45 minutes this last time. And then you have to watch for any smoke anywhere with the external purge valve closed."
This is a leak test where a machine pumps in harmless smoke. If the smoke shows up somewhere it shouldn’t, you’ve found the leak.
A smoke machine leak test fills a system with visible smoke under pressure to locate leaks. If smoke appears anywhere, you know there’s an escape path, and you can trace it to the specific connector or line.
external purge valve
"And then you have to watch for any smoke anywhere with the external purge valve closed. So pressure built up."
A purge valve controls how vapors are routed—typically from a charcoal canister into the engine to be burned. “External” here suggests a serviceable valve used to isolate the system during testing so smoke doesn’t flow where it would hide a leak.
gas cap
"and you open the gas cap and the smoke pours out. So I know it had built pressure."
The gas cap seals the fuel tank. If you open it after pressurizing the system, any trapped pressure (and smoke) will come out, helping confirm where the leak is.
The gas cap seals the fuel tank so pressure/vacuum can be controlled by the vehicle’s evaporative emissions system. Opening it during a smoke test can release trapped pressure and confirm the system was sealed and pressurized.
flexible line
"the VR6 uses a different style connector upfront on a flexible line to the plastic key point, hard line that goes to the back of the fuel tank."
A flexible line is a rubber or hose section that connects parts and can flex as the car moves. Those connections can get old and start leaking.
A flexible line is a hose-like section used to connect components while allowing movement and vibration isolation. In leak testing, flexible lines are common leak points because clamps, fittings, and aging rubber can fail.
hose clamp
"And so the trick there is to just use a hose clamp,"
A hose clamp is the metal band that squeezes a hose onto a fitting. It helps stop leaks by making the connection tight.
A hose clamp is a band that tightens around a hose to secure it to a fitting and prevent leaks. The “trick” mentioned suggests using the right clamp to improve sealing at a connection point during repair.
plastic
"[774.0s] tighten it, but because it's plastic, [776.0s] you can't tighten the shit out of it [776.0s] or you're gonna crack it"
They’re saying the part is made of plastic, so you can’t tighten it as hard as you would a metal part. Too much force can crack it and cause a bigger repair.
The speaker is warning that the component they’re tightening is plastic, so over-tightening can crack it. Plastic fasteners and housings often need lower torque than metal parts, and cracking can lead to leaks or the need for replacement.
pressurizing and watching for smoke to locate a leak
"[782.0s] I mean, then you're running a new line [783.0s] all the way through the floor pan and everything else. [784.0s] So I did it gently [784.0s] because I didn't want it to crack [787.0s] and there was a little tiny wisp of, [789.0s] continual wisp of smoke through there. [793.0s] cranked it down just enough to stop it [797.0s] and sat and watched it for 45 minutes"
The speaker is using a leak-detection approach: pressurize the system, then visually monitor for smoke escaping from a suspected area. This is a practical method for finding very small leaks that may not show up immediately or may be too minor to measure with basic tools.
floor pan
"[781.0s] I mean, then you're running a new line [782.0s] all the way through the floor pan and everything else. [784.0s] So I did it gently"
The floor pan is the part of the car’s body that forms the floor. If you have to run a line through it, you’re routing something through the car’s structure, so you have to be careful not to damage it or create new problems.
The floor pan is the structural metal (or sometimes composite/plastic sections) that forms the bottom of the vehicle’s cabin. Running lines “through the floor pan” usually means routing hoses/wiring through protected channels, which can be labor-intensive and requires care to avoid cracking or damaging surrounding materials.
purge valves
"I tested both purge valves. You take 12 volts off of the external purge... and it pressurizes the intake with all this stuff."
The purge valve is like a switch that lets stored fuel vapors get sucked into the engine to burn. If it doesn’t open when it should, the EVAP system may fail its self-check.
Purge valves control when the EVAP system releases stored fuel vapors into the intake to be burned by the engine. Testing them often involves applying battery voltage to confirm they open/actuate correctly and that the system can pressurize as expected.
BMW M3
"another example is I have a friend with an E46 M3"
The BMW E46 M3 is a specific older M3 generation from BMW. Here it’s just being used as an example of a car that has had emissions/monitor-related issues.
The BMW E46 M3 is the 3 Series–based M3 generation from the late 1990s to early 2000s, known for its enthusiast-focused chassis and engine character. In this context, it’s mentioned as an example related to EVAP/emissions readiness behavior.
BMW E46
"...I can, another example is I have a friend with an E46 M3 and she put 8,000 miles on her car"
The BMW 3 Series is a luxury car line from BMW. The podcast mentions the E46 M3, which is a high-performance version of the 3 Series. The point is that someone drove it a lot, showing these cars can be used regularly.
The BMW 3 Series is a compact luxury sedan (and wagon in some markets) that’s known for a strong balance of comfort and driving dynamics. The podcast mentions an E46 M3 specifically, using it as an example of real-world mileage and ownership. That makes it relevant to discussions about how these cars can be used day-to-day and how they hold up over time.
smogged it
"and the day she set the evap monitor [876.0s] they smogged it and then she wrecked it."
“Smogged it” means the car was tested for emissions. The testing checks whether the car is producing acceptable pollution levels, and sometimes it also checks that the car’s self-tests have run.
“Smogged it” means the car was taken through an emissions test (commonly a dynamometer test and/or OBD readiness checks) to verify it meets local pollution limits. In California, readiness monitors like EVAP must be set correctly for the test to be considered valid.
California Bureau of Automotive Repair
"So I wrote to the California Bureau of Automotive Repair [885.0s] the referee that I'm dealing with"
In California, there’s a government office that handles car emissions rules and testing. If your car has trouble passing smog, that office can get involved through special testing or review.
The California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) is the state agency that oversees vehicle emissions compliance and the referee program for disputed test results. If a car can’t pass smog due to diagnostic readiness or emissions-system issues, BAR can provide a path to certification or review.
referee
"the referee that I'm dealing with [887.0s] to try to certify this"
A “referee” is like an expert emissions tester. If the normal smog test doesn’t make sense or the car keeps failing for confusing reasons, the referee can take a closer look.
A BAR “referee” is a specialized technician/testing process used when a vehicle fails smog or has unusual emissions/diagnostic behavior. The referee can evaluate the car’s emissions systems and diagnostic data to determine whether the vehicle can be certified or needs repairs.
emissions readiness / monitor completion
"I've now done more miles [891.0s] on this car trying to set the monitor [894.0s] than I will driving every year."
Some emissions tests don’t just measure exhaust—they also check whether the car has run its own internal “checks.” If those checks haven’t happened yet, the test can fail or be delayed even if the car is actually clean.
Emissions readiness (monitor completion) is the idea that a car must run specific self-checks—like EVAP—before an emissions test can be considered valid. If the monitors aren’t set, the testing process can lead to repeated driving, retesting, and frustration even when the vehicle’s tailpipe emissions are already clean.
smoke test
"I put it on a smoke bushing. [911.0s] Would you please just smoke test the fucking evap system"
A smoke test is a way to find leaks in the car’s vapor lines. The shop fills the system with harmless smoke, and if there’s a crack or loose connection, you can see the smoke escaping.
A smoke test is a diagnostic method where non-toxic smoke is introduced into the EVAP system to locate leaks in hoses, fittings, or the canister purge/vent paths. It’s commonly used when EVAP monitors fail or when there’s suspicion of an EVAP leak causing emissions test issues.
computer
"what else could be possibly pissing this fucking computer off. You need more drive cycles... But I put the factory in your box."
When they say “the computer,” they mean the car’s onboard electronics that control the engine and emissions systems. If it’s not happy, it may not have enough driving conditions to finish its self-checks. That’s why they talk about doing drive cycles again.
In this context, “the computer” refers to the car’s engine control module (ECM) and related emissions/diagnostic systems. When it’s “pissed off,” it usually means the car’s readiness monitors or emissions logic aren’t completing as expected, often after a reset or when conditions haven’t been met. That’s why the discussion turns to drive cycles.
rolling dyno
"Can you do this on a rolling dyno? No. Yes. Hypothetically? Hypothetically you could."
A rolling dyno is a setup where the car’s wheels sit on rollers and the car can be “driven” in place while equipment measures what’s happening. The idea here is that you might be able to mimic the driving pattern the car needs for its emissions tests, but it’s not something everyone can do easily.
A rolling dyno measures a car’s performance while the wheels roll on rollers, letting the drivetrain be loaded without a full chassis dyno setup. In theory, you could use it to simulate the speed/load changes needed for emissions drive-cycle readiness, potentially making drive cycles more controlled and repeatable. The hosts note it’s not straightforward in practice.
Vagcom
"There's a product called a Vagcom company by Rostack and they wrote some software that lets you directly tell the computer what to do."
Vagcom is a diagnostic tool for Volkswagen cars. It lets you read codes and sometimes run tests so you can figure out why the car’s computer isn’t ready for emissions checks.
Vagcom (often used as a generic name for VAG diagnostic software) refers to tools that let you access Volkswagen/Audi/Skoda/SEAT vehicle computers for diagnostics. In this segment, it’s used to force readiness monitors and run tests.
Rostack
"There's a product called a Vagcom company by Rostack and they wrote some software that lets you directly tell the computer what to do."
Rostack is the company behind a diagnostic software package. It helps you talk to the car’s computer to run tests and see what it’s reporting.
Rostack is mentioned as the company behind software used to communicate with a Volkswagen’s onboard computer. Tools like this are typically used for diagnostics and to run/force certain test routines.
emissions readiness / monitor not setting
"Mine just won't set... But it's not throwing... It's just saying, I can't rule out that there is an error... because I am seeing an intermittent leak"
Sometimes the car’s emissions system has a problem that shows up only sometimes (“intermittent”). When that happens, the car may not complete its emissions readiness checks, so it can’t confirm everything is OK.
The speaker is describing a common emissions-diagnostics situation: the car can show an “intermittent” issue and refuse to set readiness monitors. This can happen even when no hard fault code is stored, making troubleshooting harder because the computer can’t pinpoint the cause.
intermittent leak
"...because I am seeing an intermittent leak"
An intermittent leak is a leak that doesn’t happen all the time. Emissions systems are sensitive to this—if the leak shows up during the computer’s test, it may fail to mark the car as ready.
An intermittent leak means a leak that appears and disappears rather than staying constant. For emissions systems, even a small intermittent leak (like a vacuum or EVAP-related leak) can prevent readiness monitors from completing.
catalytic converter
"No, a catalytic converter and I said, I need more coffee. ... Don't they all have new cats because they've all been stolen and replaced?"
A catalytic converter cleans up the exhaust gases before they leave the tailpipe. If it’s old or replaced, it can change how the car’s emissions checks behave.
A catalytic converter is an emissions-control device that helps convert harmful exhaust gases into less harmful ones. In many regions, it’s also tied to emissions readiness and inspection outcomes, so failures or replacements can influence diagnostic monitors.
combusted emissions
"Evap has nothing to do with the catalytic converter for the record... One is an evaporative emissions. The other one is a combusted emissions thing."
Combusted emissions are the exhaust fumes made when the engine burns fuel. The catalytic converter helps clean those fumes up before they leave the tailpipe.
Combusted emissions are pollutants created during the combustion process in the engine cylinders. The catalytic converter primarily helps reduce these exhaust emissions, and related monitors may set codes if the system isn’t performing as expected.
Air injection / secondary air system
"Ich hatte einen Konefilter. Ich habe das gemacht. Und das 2.Aero-System, und alles das 2.Aero macht, ist ein Pump-Extra-Aire durch den Motor, um die Kattelöder zu helfen..."
Some cars add extra air into the exhaust to help clean up leftover fuel that didn’t burn in the engine. It’s mainly an emissions-control trick, not a power upgrade.
An air injection (secondary air) system adds fresh air into the exhaust to help oxidize unburned hydrocarbons and reduce emissions. The idea is to “finish” combustion in the exhaust stream when the engine isn’t burning everything completely.
Exhaust
"Es ist extra-Aire für unkombustete Flügel im Exhaust. Das dumpft die Flügel, so dass es rich ist."
The exhaust is where the engine sends its used gases after combustion. How it’s shaped and how air moves through it can change how the car runs and sounds.
The exhaust is the system that carries burned gases out of the engine. In performance discussions, people often talk about how exhaust design and airflow affect scavenging, sound, and emissions behavior.
airbox
"Ja, es gibt das Air, dass es die extra Flügel braucht, um die Kattelöder zu heben. So, ich habe das 2.Aero-Aire, der 2.Aero-Aire in diesem Auto, verbringt durch den Airbox."
The airbox is like a “container” for the air going into the engine. Changing the airbox setup or what filter you use can change how much air the engine gets and how smoothly it gets it.
An airbox is the intake housing that feeds air to the engine (or in this case, the engine’s intake system). Its shape and internal volume can affect airflow stability and how the engine responds, especially when paired with different filters and ducting.
PAPER Airfilter
"Aber ich habe gemerkt, dass wenn ich das Faktor Airbox und das Faktor PAPER Airfilter habe, dass meine Flügel-Trims auf die Schärfe gehen. Du denkst, das PAPER-Filter ist zu restriktiv?"
A paper air filter is the common type of filter material used in many cars. If it blocks airflow too much, the engine may not breathe as well, which can hurt performance.
A “paper” air filter refers to a traditional cellulose-based filter media. Filter restriction can change intake airflow, which can indirectly affect how well the engine makes power and how sensitive it feels to tuning changes.
Flügel-Trims
"Und so habe ich das Faktor Airbox und das Faktor PAPER Airfilter habe, dass meine Flügel-Trims auf die Schärfe gehen. Und das Flügel-Trim ist eigentlich das, ich sehe so viel Air in und ich verbringe die appropriate Menge der Flügel, aber es war nicht genug oder zu viel."
“Flügel-Trims” sounds like the settings for adjustable aero flaps/wing angles. If the car’s airflow changes (like with different intake parts), you may need to tweak the wing settings so the car still makes the right downforce.
“Flügel-Trims” here appears to mean aerodynamic flap/wing adjustment settings (trim positions) used to balance downforce and airflow. Small changes in intake/airflow setup can shift the overall aerodynamic and pressure conditions, which may require wing trim changes to keep the car behaving as intended.
restriktiv
"Du denkst, das PAPER-Filter ist zu restriktiv? Ich weiß nicht. Es ging positiv,"
“Restrictive” means it’s blocking airflow. If the intake path is too restrictive, the engine can’t get as much air, so performance and feel can change.
“Restriktiv” means restrictive—i.e., limiting airflow. In intake systems, higher restriction can reduce how much air reaches the engine, which can change power delivery and may force other adjustments (like aero trim) to compensate.
mass air flow sensor
"das vacuum leak post math, post the mass air flow sensor. Ist das möglich? Ja, ich habe das mass air flow sensor off."
The mass air flow sensor tells the car’s computer how much air is going into the engine. If that signal is wrong, the computer can’t meter fuel correctly, and you may get rough running or warning lights.
The mass air flow (MAF) sensor measures how much air the engine is ingesting, which the ECU uses to calculate fuel delivery. If the MAF reading is wrong—due to a leak, unplugging, or contamination—the engine can run rich/lean and set fault codes.
adaptions geklaut
"mit dem Stock Airbox wieder, ich habe die Adoptionen geklaut und es kam gleich zurück, 25% Flügel-Trim,"
“Adaptions” (adaptations) are learned ECU corrections—like fuel trims and sensor offsets—that the engine computer stores to keep running smoothly. Copying or restoring adaptations can temporarily mask or fix issues after sensor/air-intake changes, but it’s not a substitute for fixing the underlying leak or fault.
Check-Ingin-Light
"All ich weiß ist, 25%, das ist ein fucking Check-Ingin-Light."
“Check-Ingin-Light” is the Check Engine Light (MIL), which indicates the ECU has detected a fault and stored a diagnostic trouble code. When it appears after intake/MAF/vacuum changes, it usually means the computer still sees an abnormal condition.
Aftermarket Cone Filter
"So, ich habe das Faktory Airbox in, sorry, das Aftermarket Cone Filter in, ich habe alles in, ich habe es in, das Flügel-Trim ist 6%,"
This is a non-factory air filter shaped like a cone. People use it for better airflow and sometimes a louder intake sound, but it can also affect how the engine runs if it’s not set up correctly.
An aftermarket cone filter is a reusable or washable air filter that replaces the factory airbox/ducting. It’s often used to improve airflow and sound, but it can also change how the engine’s air metering and filtration behave.
12-Val VR6
"hat ein 12-Val VR6, preferably ein 98 oder 99, weil sie die E-Vap-Systeme, die diesen fucking Lidl-Tube hat,"
VR6 is a Volkswagen engine layout that combines V6 power with a compact design. “12-val” means it has 12 valves total, and the year matters because emissions equipment can change.
“VR6” refers to Volkswagen’s narrow-angle V6 engine design, and “12-val” indicates a 12-valve configuration (typically two valves per cylinder). The speaker is also implying a specific model-year preference, likely because EVAP/emissions hardware differs by year.
Pending-Kode
"Aber jetzt habe ich einen fucking Pending-Kode, und ich weiß nicht, wie lange es dauert. Also meine Wahl ist, es zu resettieren und dann wieder mit dieser E-Vap-Monitor-Setting,"
A pending code is like a “maybe” warning from the car. It means the computer saw something unusual, but it didn’t happen enough times yet to turn on the full warning light.
A “pending code” is an OBD-II diagnostic trouble code that the car has detected but hasn’t confirmed strongly enough to trigger a full check-engine light. It often means the issue is intermittent or occurred only briefly during a drive cycle.
State-by-state emissions testing differences (Oregon vs California)
"... sogar wenn die California nicht bis diese E-Vap-Monitor-Settinge passen würde, ... Ich habe einen Klang in Oregon, ich habe den DMV-Registration für seine Fahrt in Oregon gehandelt, und die Erfahrung war so viel mehr glücklich als hier."
Emissions rules and inspection strictness vary by state, including how OBD-II readiness and pending codes are treated. The speaker contrasts Oregon’s process with California’s, implying that monitor readiness requirements can make compliance easier in one state than another.
DMV-Registration
"Ich habe einen Klang in Oregon, ich habe den DMV-Registration für seine Fahrt in Oregon gehandelt, und die Erfahrung war so viel mehr glücklich als hier."
DMV registration is the paperwork that legally allows you to drive the car. Some states also require emissions checks as part of registration, so where you register can change what you have to do.
DMV registration refers to the state process of titling and registering a vehicle, which can include emissions compliance requirements depending on the state. In the transcript, it’s tied to how the car was handled for use/testing in Oregon versus elsewhere.
collector plate
"there is also a collector plate that exempts you from emissions testing for anything 25 years and older."
A collector plate is a special license plate for certain qualifying cars. It can come with perks, like not needing the usual emissions testing.
A collector plate is a special registration plate intended for qualifying vehicles, often with benefits like exemptions or reduced requirements. Here, it’s tied to an emissions-testing exemption for older cars.
emissions testing exemption for 25 years and older
"there is also a collector plate that exempts you from emissions testing for anything 25 years and older."
Some places let very old cars skip emissions checks. That means you can keep driving a classic without having to pass the same pollution tests as newer cars.
The hosts are discussing a rule that exempts older vehicles from emissions testing. In practice, this can make it easier to register and drive classic cars without the same ongoing emissions requirements as newer vehicles.
club certifies that it's a significant car
"if there is a club that certifies that it's a significant car, then you can get that plate on the car, even if it's not 25, yeah."
Sometimes a car can get classic-car benefits even if it’s not old enough by age, as long as an approved club says it’s important. It’s like an official stamp that the car is a real collectible.
The segment describes a pathway where a car can qualify for special registration benefits if a recognized club certifies it as significant. This is a common approach for classic-car programs when the vehicle isn’t old enough to qualify by age alone.
Toyota Prius
"I'm the club of people who thinkin' Toyota Prius is a special car, no."
They bring up the Toyota Prius to make a point about what people think is “special.” It’s not a deep technical discussion here—more of a debate about car culture.
The hosts mention the Toyota Prius as an example of a car they consider “special,” pushing back on the idea that only traditional enthusiast cars deserve that label. It’s used rhetorically in the discussion about what counts as a meaningful car.
Leno's law thing is back on the books again
"This is why the Leno's law thing is back on the books again, right? Everyone is trying to get California just back off."
They’re talking about a law (nicknamed “Leno’s law”) that affects how classic cars are treated by the state. The discussion is basically about rules for older cars and whether states like California should loosen them.
The hosts reference “Leno’s law,” which is a nickname for legislation related to classic-car registration and emissions rules. This segment is about how those rules are changing and why people are trying to influence California’s approach.
historical vehicle plate
"There is a law in the books that says if California car is registered with a historical vehicle plate and is 35 model years old or older, it is actually exempt from tailpipe emissions inspection"
Some states let older cars get a special “historical” license plate. If your car qualifies, it may not have to do the usual emissions testing.
A historical vehicle plate is a special registration designation that can change how a car is regulated. In California, the transcript notes that if the car is 35 model years old or older, it can be exempt from tailpipe emissions inspection.
tailpipe emissions inspection
"it is actually exempt from tailpipe emissions inspection and you can go to a ref, meaning a referee, have it done."
Tailpipe emissions inspection checks what comes out of the exhaust, typically to verify compliance with emissions standards. The segment suggests that certain older cars with historical plates may be exempt from this specific test.
GPS tracker
"I might even allow a GPS tracker. Would you allow a GPS tracker in your car to prevent to do from having emissions checks?"
A GPS tracker is a small device that can track where a car goes. The hosts are debating whether it could be used to avoid emissions rules, and they point out it might stop working if its battery dies.
A “GPS tracker” is a device that records a vehicle’s location and can report driving patterns. In this segment, it’s discussed as a way to potentially influence or avoid certain compliance steps (like emissions testing), which raises practical concerns like battery drain and tampering/cheating.
emissions checks
"Would you allow a GPS tracker in your car to prevent to do from having emissions checks? The question is on an OBD zero car, meaning a car before OBD two."
Emissions checks are how the government makes sure your car isn’t polluting too much. Newer cars often get checked through the car’s computer, while older cars may be tested differently.
“Emissions checks” are inspections/tests used to verify a vehicle’s exhaust and emissions-control systems meet legal requirements. Depending on the vehicle’s age and OBD generation, the test may involve a tailpipe measurement, a visual inspection, or reading diagnostic data from the car’s OBD system.
OBD zero car
"The question is on an OBD zero car, meaning a car before OBD two."
OBD is the car’s self-check system for emissions equipment. Older cars may not have the same emissions computer checks as newer cars, so the rules for emissions testing can be different.
“OBD” stands for On-Board Diagnostics, and it’s the system that monitors emissions-related components. An “OBD zero” car here means an older vehicle that predates later OBD generations (the speaker says “before OBD two”), so it may not have the same readiness/monitor checks used by modern emissions testing.
OBD two
"The question is on an OBD zero car, meaning a car before OBD two. How do you do that?"
OBD-II is the emissions computer system most cars have. It can store trouble codes and track whether emissions systems are working, and emissions tests can check those results.
“OBD two” refers to OBD-II, the standardized emissions diagnostics system used on most cars sold in the U.S. starting in the mid-1990s. Emissions testing often relies on OBD-II readiness monitors and stored fault codes, which is why the speaker is discussing how an older car might be treated differently.
cheating emissions testing
"I mean, there's always ways to cheat. I don't like that."
They’re talking about ways people might try to get around emissions rules instead of fixing the car properly. It’s risky because it can backfire (like device failure) and it can also be illegal.
The segment discusses “always ways to cheat” emissions compliance, including using devices like GPS trackers or exploiting differences between older OBD generations. This is a concept about how compliance systems can be gamed, and it’s worth explaining because it relates to how emissions testing is enforced and why tampering is risky.
stability control
"and then I kind of slid around an on-ramp and I got a couple stability control inventions and it made a little noise"
Stability control is the car’s traction-and-safety system. If the car starts to slide or rotate too much, it can brake individual wheels to help you stay in control.
Stability control is an electronic safety system that helps prevent skids by selectively applying brakes and/or reducing engine power when it detects loss of traction. The speaker mentions “stability control inventions,” implying the car intervened during an aggressive on-ramp maneuver.
front-wheel drive
"[1608.7s] So he promised that I would never drive the car again, [1610.1s] Mercedes GLA 250 front-wheel drive, trust me."
Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of moving the car. It’s a common setup on smaller cars and usually makes the car simpler and cheaper.
Front-wheel drive (FWD) means the engine’s power is sent to the front wheels. It’s common on many compact crossovers because it packages efficiently and often helps keep costs lower than all-wheel-drive systems.
Mercedes GLA 250
"[1608.7s] So he promised that I would never drive the car again, [1610.1s] Mercedes GLA 250 front-wheel drive, trust me."
The Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 is a small luxury SUV. The hosts are basically saying they’d use a more “normal” car like this to help with insurance and rules about driving.
The Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 is a compact luxury crossover (SUV) built on a front-wheel-drive–biased platform in many markets. In the segment, it’s mentioned as a specific car used to keep insurance costs down, contrasting with a higher-risk or higher-performance vehicle.
annual mileage reporting
"[1617.4s] And yeah, I would consider [1621.4s] well, I would certainly report annual mileage, right? [1624.1s] If that exempted me."
Insurers often ask how many miles you drive each year. Driving fewer miles usually means less time on the road, which can lower your insurance cost.
Annual mileage reporting is how insurers estimate how much you drive, which affects risk and pricing. If you can legitimately reduce reported mileage (or qualify for an exemption), it can lower premiums because the insurer expects fewer miles on the road.
insurance fraud (cheating on mileage)
"[1634.4s] I'm not gonna cheat. [1635.2s] Yeah, but there's gonna be people who will. [1636.8s] But there's always gonna be people who will cheat."
If you lie to your insurance company (like reporting fewer miles than you actually drive), that can get you in serious trouble. And if you ever need to file a claim, they might deny it.
“Cheating” on insurance inputs—like underreporting mileage—can be considered fraud if it’s intentional. Beyond legal risk, it can also lead to denied claims if the insurer later discovers the mismatch.
rally debut
"[1638.4s] Yes. [1639.3s] So this car was supposed to make its rally debut [1643.3s] a couple of weeks ago, [1645.7s] but it popped that check into it."
A rally debut is the first time a car shows up to race in a rally event. They’re saying it was planned to happen soon, but something delayed it.
A rally debut refers to a car’s first competitive appearance in a rally event. In this segment, the hosts say the car was supposed to debut but “popped that check into it,” implying a delay or issue that affected the schedule.
450 mile Backroad
"[1700.8s] Take that thing on a 450 mile Backroad [1703.2s] and it'll get overrun. [1705.2s] It'll be exposed to all sorts of horrible things."
A long backroad drive means lots of different driving conditions over many miles. That can be useful for getting the car’s systems to fully run their checks. The host is also worried that the car will get “worn” by the trip.
A “450 mile backroad” implies a long, varied drive that can help complete diagnostic readiness requirements and also stress-test a car that’s been sitting. Different driving conditions (speed changes, engine load, temperature) can be important for systems to run their checks. The host is also hinting at exposure risks—dirt, weather, and road debris—during such a trip.
alignment shop
"So I brought it into the alignment shop. I'm like, please. And they said, okay, they aligned it."
An alignment shop adjusts how the wheels sit on the car. If it’s off, the car can feel weird and tires wear faster. The speaker is getting it aligned so the car behaves properly for the rally.
An alignment shop adjusts the suspension geometry—primarily camber, toe, and sometimes caster—to ensure the tires track correctly. Proper alignment improves tire wear, steering feel, and stability, especially during hard driving or long-distance events. Here, the speaker brings the car in before the rally to make sure it’s set up correctly.
fuel trim
"Fuel trim was at 20, between 18 and 22%. I was a little nervous about that."
Fuel trim is the car’s way of fine-tuning the air/fuel mixture while it runs. If the number is higher than expected, it can mean the engine is compensating for something not quite right. The speaker is nervous because the value they saw suggests the car may not be running as perfectly as it should.
Fuel trim is the engine’s adjustment to how much fuel it injects compared to a baseline target. When fuel trim is consistently high, it can indicate an underlying issue like a vacuum leak, sensor drift, or exhaust/airflow problems. In this segment, the speaker is watching fuel trim percentages to judge whether the car is running correctly before pushing it.
brakes
"We do one mountain drive. Car was shockingly good... The brakes started to become fragrant."
When the speaker says the brakes “started to become fragrant,” they’re describing brake pad material and heat effects—often a sign of heavy use or high temperatures. Track-style driving can produce more brake odor as pads and rotors heat up. The mention is used to describe how the car is being worked during the mountain drive.
clutch hydraulics failure (pedal to the floor)
"I go to get back into the car, I'm like, where's the clutch? Clutch pedals on the floor... never stopped leaking, just let go."
If the clutch pedal goes all the way down, it usually means the hydraulic system isn’t working. That can happen if fluid is leaking or a cylinder fails. The result is the clutch won’t operate correctly, so driving becomes difficult or impossible.
A clutch pedal “to the floor” is a classic symptom of hydraulic failure—often from a leak, air in the system, or a failed master/slave cylinder. When that happens, the clutch may not disengage or engage properly, leaving the driver unable to shift normally. The speaker’s experience shows how quickly a small hydraulic issue can become a major drivability problem.
master, clutch slave
"I'm like, where's the clutch? Clutch pedals on the floor. The brand new master, clutch slave, which has never felt right and never stopped leaking, just let go."
The clutch master and slave are the hydraulic parts that make the clutch work. When you press the pedal, they move fluid to release the clutch. If they leak or fail, the pedal can go to the floor and the car won’t shift normally.
The clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder are part of the hydraulic clutch system. The master cylinder creates hydraulic pressure when you press the clutch pedal, and the slave cylinder moves the clutch release mechanism. If the master/slave is leaking or fails, you can lose clutch engagement—exactly what the speaker describes when the clutch pedal goes to the floor.
driving a manual car with a failed clutch
"What a pain in the ass. [1773.3s] You had clutch only. [1774.2s] I had clutch only. [1775.0s] I hate doing that. [1776.9s] And it was all fine until, everything was totally fine. [1780.0s] And I just made sure I never stopped."
If the clutch breaks on a manual car, you can’t change gears the normal way and it gets really hard to stop and start. Drivers may have to keep moving and use a few gears to limp the car along until it can be fixed.
When a clutch fails on a manual transmission car, the driver can’t properly disengage the engine from the gearbox. That often means you must avoid stopping, rely on careful speed matching, and use limited gear choices to get through traffic—exactly what the hosts describe (staying in certain gears and trying not to stop).
ABS
"She comes to a screeching halt [1824.4s] and I had to ABS to a stop [1826.3s] Like full, almost hit her."
ABS is a safety feature that stops your wheels from locking when you brake hard. That helps you keep some control of the car instead of sliding.
ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System. It prevents the wheels from locking up during hard braking, helping you maintain steering control and reducing stopping distance on many surfaces.
stalled
"Now I'm stopped, I'm stalled [1833.8s] and it's up a significant hill."
To stall means the engine dies while you’re stopped. It can happen when the car is struggling to keep the engine running, especially at low speed.
A stall happens when the engine stops running, usually because the engine isn’t getting enough air/fuel or the drivetrain load overwhelms it. In real-world driving, stalling often occurs at low speeds when you’re stopped on a slope or when the clutch/gear selection isn’t right.
7, 8% grade
"and it's up a significant hill. [1835.8s] 7, 8% grade. [1837.7s] So come to a stop"
A 7–8% grade is a fairly steep hill. When you stop on a slope like that, the car can want to roll, and it’s harder to get going smoothly.
A “% grade” describes how steep a hill is: 7–8% means the elevation rises 7–8 feet for every 100 feet of horizontal distance. Steep grades increase the risk of rolling backward/forward when stopped and can make clutch/launch situations harder.
Gear locked / can't get out of gear
"and I'm stuck in second because there's so much weight on the car pulling it down the hill that the gear's locked."
On a steep hill, the car’s weight can keep the drivetrain under heavy load. That can make the gear feel stuck, so you can’t shift out of it normally.
“Locked” here refers to the transmission not allowing a clean shift because the driveline is loaded by the car’s weight on the slope. On steep grades, the torque required to move the car can make the shifter feel stuck or prevent selecting another gear.
Starter-assisted hill restart (using the starter to move the car)
"And I'm like, okay, the only way I'm gonna get out of this is to hit the key, let the starter move the car a little bit, let go and immediately at the same time, knock it out of gear when there's no load on it."
If the car is stuck in a gear on a hill, the engine and drivetrain can be under a lot of load, making shifting hard. By using the starter to move the car a tiny bit, you reduce that load so the transmission can be shifted more easily.
The speaker describes using the starter motor to “nudge” the car so it can be shifted out of a loaded/locked gear on a steep hill. This works because reducing the load and rolling slightly can relieve the drivetrain’s resistance to selecting a different gear.
Flashers
"I have my flashers on, I'm like, go around, but he's so close to me that he can't"
Flashers are the blinking warning lights you turn on when you need other drivers to notice you right away. Here, the speaker turns them on to get the other driver’s attention.
Hazard/flashers are the vehicle’s warning lights used to alert other drivers when you’re stopped or in a potentially confusing situation. In this scene, the speaker uses them to signal the other driver to go around.
Haggerty
"[1912.0s] I have really good insurance. [1913.6s] I'm so sorry, Haggerty. [1915.0s] Just fucking blow up, I don't care."
Hagerty is an insurance company that caters to classic car owners. If the car breaks or gets damaged, it can affect how claims work and how much it costs to insure.
Hagerty is a specialty insurance company focused heavily on classic and enthusiast cars. When someone says they’re sorry to Hagerty, it usually implies the car is insured as a collectible and the speaker is worried about damage or a claim.
secondary or pipe
"[1936.5s] Yeah. [1937.5s] Great success or similar. [1939.2s] And now I have to replace fucking secondary or pipe. [1945.3s] Just so I can drive in another 4.2 billion miles"
This sounds like a specific part in the car’s exhaust or emissions system that broke. If it’s damaged, the car may not run right, so you have to replace that piece before driving again.
“Secondary” and “pipe” here likely refer to an emissions/engine plumbing component (often exhaust-related) that needs replacement to get the car running correctly again. In performance cars, small exhaust or emissions parts can trigger faults and prevent normal operation until repaired.
flat tire
"[1964.9s] I got a flat tire. [1965.9s] I didn't get a flat tire. [1966.7s] I got a nail."
A flat tire is when your tire loses air and becomes unsafe to drive on. It can happen suddenly from a puncture, and you usually need to repair or replace it.
A flat tire means the tire has lost enough air that it can’t support the vehicle properly. The hosts clarify that in this case it wasn’t a full flat at first—it was a puncture that they managed as a tire issue during the rally.
tire nail
"[1966.7s] I got a nail. [1968.3s] You know, I posted that to the video."
A nail can poke a hole in your tire and let air leak out. Even if it doesn’t instantly go flat, it can still get worse and needs to be fixed.
A tire nail (or screw) puncture is a common cause of slow leaks or sudden deflation. The key point is that the puncture can be small enough that the tire may not be fully flat immediately, but it still needs attention to prevent damage.
roadside repair
"[1988.2s] We did a roadside repair on that. [1990.5s] We, one of us always has the kit. [1993.3s] I actually bought one myself"
A roadside repair is a temporary fix you do right where the problem happens. It’s meant to get you back on the road until you can take the car to a shop for the real fix.
A roadside repair is a quick fix done on the shoulder or in a parking lot to get the car moving again until a proper repair can be done. In this segment, it’s specifically about handling a tire puncture using a kit so the car can be driven safely afterward.
tire kit
"[1990.5s] We, one of us always has the kit. [1993.3s] I actually bought one myself [1994.5s] because I figured I should have my own."
A tire kit is a set of supplies to help you deal with a punctured tire quickly. It’s meant to be a temporary fix so you can keep going safely.
A tire kit typically includes tools and materials for temporary puncture repair (like plugs or sealant) and sometimes an inflator. Having one on hand is useful for getting through events or trips without waiting for a tow.
convertible vs track-focused GT car purpose
"And I wanted to do it in a convertible because I thought that would slow me down... But we came back to the world erupting over a convertible."
A convertible changes the car’s structure and driving experience compared with a fixed-roof coupe, often affecting stiffness, noise, and how the car behaves at speed. When you apply that to a track-oriented model like a GT3, it becomes a philosophical question: does the open-top format dilute the “track-first” identity, or does it simply broaden the use case?
cabriolet
"Yes, for something cabriolet. Well, I just thought it was, I don't know what."
A cabriolet is just a fancy word for a convertible—an open-top car where you can lower the roof.
“Cabriolet” is a term for an open-top car where the roof can be lowered, typically via a fabric soft top or a retractable mechanism. In this context, it’s used to describe the convertible nature of the newly launched 911 GT3S/C.
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C
"So here's the full transparency. A week from now-ish, I will be driving that car, I think. I'm going down to Porsche..."
This is a special Porsche 911 meant to feel more hardcore than a normal GT3. The argument here is whether it’s still a “true GT3” if Porsche changes the recipe in a way that bothers purists.
The Porsche 911 GT3 S/C is a special, track-focused 911 variant built around the GT3 idea—lightweighting and performance hardware—while the “S/C” designation signals a more extreme, concept-like approach. In this episode, the hosts debate whether it still counts as a “real GT3” when it departs from what purists expect from the GT3 formula.
visceral negative reaction
"Because people are having a kind of visceral negative reaction to this car on social media."
They’re talking about a strong, gut-level reaction people have to a car. Instead of judging it by specs, some fans judge it by whether it feels “true” to what they expect.
A “visceral” reaction is an emotional, instinctive response—often driven by identity and expectations rather than measured performance. The hosts connect this to how some enthusiasts judge cars as “pure” or “not pure” when the design or concept deviates from tradition.
conceptually unpure
"people are objecting to it on the basis that it is conceptually unpure."
Some fans feel the car isn’t “true” to the idea of what a GT3 should be. It’s less about whether it’s fast and more about whether it matches the spirit of the original concept.
“Conceptually unpure” is an enthusiast critique meaning the car doesn’t follow the “rules” of what the model should be. In GT3 discussions, that often refers to whether the car stays faithful to the intended formula (track focus, homologation spirit, and design intent) versus becoming a marketing or concept variant.
roof removed (open-top) hot rods
"when the roof was removed from Ferrari's hot rods, Nobody really seemed to give a shit"
Removing the roof turns a coupe into an open-top (“open car”) configuration, which changes structural rigidity and often affects how a car is engineered and perceived. In enthusiast terms, it can also trigger debates about whether the car still belongs in a “serious track” category or becomes more of a style/statement piece.
initial definition of a sports car was a roadster
"The, let's be honest, the initial definition of a sports car was a roadster, was a two-door open car."
They’re saying that, in the past, people usually thought of sports cars as open-top roadsters. So if we accept roadsters as sports cars, the debate about open-top “GT” cars feels a bit inconsistent. It’s about how enthusiasts define categories over time.
This is a concept about how car categories evolve: historically, “sports car” often meant an open two-door roadster. The hosts argue that modern debates about what qualifies as a “real” GT car are inconsistent with that history. It’s essentially a discussion of definitions and cultural expectations in automotive enthusiast circles.
debate over whether an open-top GT3 can be a real GT3
"The problem I feel with the GT3, so no one has a problem with a convertible 911. They've been around for a long time. 1983."
This part is basically a debate: can an open-top performance car still be considered a true GT3/GT? They compare it to how people accept open-top 911s and how Ferrari has done open-top performance for years. The focus is on what fans think the category should mean.
This segment is a structured argument about whether an open-top version of a GT3-style car can still be considered “real” GT3/GT. The hosts compare it to the long acceptance of convertible Porsche 911s and to Ferrari’s earlier open-top performance history. It’s less about engineering and more about enthusiast definitions and tradition.
Porsche 911 GT3
"dass das GT3, wie ein Badge, tendiert, dass das Motor-Sport-Division ist. Und also die Idee eines GT3 ... als ein Convertible, ist ein Problem."
GT3 is Porsche’s “race-inspired” version of the 911. The idea is that it’s built to be fast and focused for track driving, not just to look sporty.
“GT3” is Porsche’s motorsport-derived trim concept: a car meant to feel and perform like a race car, especially for track use. In this discussion, the hosts question whether a convertible-style approach can still qualify as a true GT3.
Porsche 911 SC
"wenn sie das 911 SC Cab gehalten haben, und es nur ein 911 SC war, ich denke nicht, dass es so viel aufregend wäre."
The 911 SC is an older 911 model Porsche made. They’re saying that if Porsche had kept a cabriolet version of the 911 SC, it wouldn’t have created the same “GT3” excitement because GT3 has a stricter race-track identity.
The Porsche 911 SC is an earlier 911 variant (often associated with the late-1970s/early-1980s era) that’s being referenced as a baseline for what would be “exciting” if Porsche had kept a cabriolet version. The hosts imply that the GT3 badge carries a stronger track-motorsport expectation than a generic 911 cabriolet.
GT3 track-focused identity
"Porsche hat uns trainiert, dass das GT3 Track fokussiert war. Und das ist warum ... PDK ... Und dann haben sie ... 911 R und 911 ST ... die sind GT3 ohne den Fokus auf den Track"
They’re talking about what the GT3 name is supposed to mean. To them, GT3 isn’t just a sporty label—it’s tied to being built for track driving, so changing the formula (like making it a convertible) challenges that expectation.
This segment is about the concept of “badge meaning”: Porsche’s GT3 name has become shorthand for track-focused engineering and behavior. The hosts argue that converting that identity into a convertible format (or softening the track focus) undermines what people expect from GT3.
PDK
"originally nur available mit einer PDK, wenn sie es zu einer Transmission reduzieren musste. Weil die PDK schneller war als eine Laptage."
PDK is Porsche’s fast-shifting gearbox. It uses two clutches so it can change gears very quickly, which helps on a track.
PDK is Porsche’s dual-clutch transmission. It typically delivers quicker gear changes than a traditional automatic, which matters for lap times and track-focused performance.
Porsche 911 R
"die Dinge wie 911 R und 911 SC, die sind ein ST, sorry, ST, 911 R und 911 ST, die sind GT3 ohne den Fokus auf den Track"
The 911 R is a special, more driver-focused 911 that’s meant to feel like a race car. In this segment, they’re using it to argue that not every “R” or “special” 911 automatically matches the strict GT3 track mission.
The Porsche 911 R is a lightweight, track-oriented 911 variant that’s often discussed as a purist alternative within the 911 lineup. Here it’s used as an example of a model that is “GT3 without the focus on the track,” highlighting how Porsche’s naming and positioning can blur.
Context (for evaluating a GT3)
"Und also SC... Es ist auch, ich meine, das Kontext ist sicherlich relevant. Und ich denke, das Kontext für 911 Cab-Relays ist immer..."
They’re saying that judging a car isn’t just about the badge—it depends on the situation around it. Things like how it’s used and what it’s meant to be can affect whether it really matches the “GT3” idea.
Here, “context” is being used as a framework for judging what counts as a true GT3 experience. The idea is that how the car is positioned, used, and valued can change whether it feels like the same kind of car as a more traditional GT3.
collector value differences by body style/heritage
"Roadster ist weniger wert als ein Gullwing. Aber wir reden nicht halb, oder? Nein, es ist wahrscheinlich... Es ist mehr als 25% der Values-Differenz."
They’re talking about why some versions of the same car are worth a lot more than others. It’s not just the car—it’s the story, the look, and how iconic or race-connected that specific version is.
A major theme here is that different variants (e.g., Gullwing vs Roadster, or different 911/356 configurations) can create large value gaps because of “characteristics” and motorsport/heritage associations. The hosts quantify it as losing more than a certain percentage of value and losing the “Gullwing duration/character.”
Porsche 911
"Und das war der Fall, dass der 911-Cab-Relay ... 20 Jahre nach dem 911 erst einmal aus dem Auto gekommen ist. Und es war immer noch mit dem originalen Body-Shel."
The Porsche 911 is Porsche’s famous sports car model. Here, they’re talking about how a particular 911 example was built and how its body/structure affects how “real” it feels as a performance car.
The Porsche 911 is the iconic rear-engine sports car line that has been produced for decades in many body styles. In this segment, the hosts are discussing a specific 911-related example and how its structure and engineering choices affect its character and rigidity.
body shell
"Und es war immer noch mit dem originalen Body-Shel. Der Auto war nicht als konvertiert."
The body shell is basically the car’s main metal frame/body. If you keep the original shell, you’re starting from the factory structure, but changes can still make the car less stiff or less precise.
A body shell is the main structural sheet-metal “shell” of the car, including the parts that provide rigidity and mounting points. When a project keeps the original body shell, it can preserve some baseline structural characteristics, but converting or modifying the car can still compromise stiffness and alignment.
structural rigidity
"Also, historisch, Porsche 911s haben half der Struktur-Rigidität verloren."
Structural rigidity means how “stiff” the car’s body is. If the body flexes more, the car can feel less precise and less consistent, especially when driving hard.
Structural rigidity is how resistant a car’s body is to flexing under load. The hosts suggest that Porsche 911s historically lost some rigidity in certain open-top/roof configurations, which matters because flex can change handling feel and performance consistency.
compromised design/trade-off
"Und das ist der kompromissiertes Bild. Und das ist sogar, wenn das Auto ... als Konverter zu werden. Du verlierst noch viel Struktur."
They’re saying the end result is a compromise. When you change the body style—especially around the roof—you can lose some of the car’s stiffness, which can make the handling feel less sharp.
The transcript explicitly calls the result a “compromised picture,” and mentions losing structure when converting from one configuration to another. This points to a common engineering trade-off: removing roof structure (or changing body style) can reduce torsional rigidity, which affects handling feel and stability.
GT3 category
"Und das andere ist, dass die GT3-Line zurückgeht. Wenn du die R-S-Tage fährst, dann geht es um die R-S-Tage ..."
“GT3” refers to a racing class concept: cars built to be competitive in GT3-spec racing, typically with rules that shape aerodynamics, powertrain, and weight. The discussion is about whether a particular Porsche 911 GT3 S/C still fits that spirit and technical intent, not just the name.
HOT ROD-Version
"Also, jede Generation von 911s [2502.1s] war eigentlich in einer HOT ROD-Version, [2505.1s] die dann die GT3 ..."
“Hot rodding” in car culture generally means taking a production car and modifying it for more performance and a more aggressive driving character. Here, the hosts use it to describe how each 911 generation had a more performance-oriented variant that eventually fed into the GT3 idea.
Porsche 356 Speedster
"[2524.1s] Der Speedster war das eigene, [2527.1s] das seit 1954 existierte. [2530.1s] Historisch hatte man immer die standarden Engeln gebraucht. [2533.1s] Das war also für das 356 Speedster,"
The Porsche 356 Speedster is an early, iconic Speedster-bodied Porsche from the 1950s. It’s referenced here to show that Porsche’s Speedster concept predates the modern 911 GT3 conversation by decades.
Windup-Windows
"Die Calvary-Lay hat Windup-Windows, eine voll insulated Top, das war watertight,"
Windup windows are the kind you crank up and down by hand. It’s a small detail, but it helps describe how classic and “mechanical” the car feels inside.
“Windup windows” refers to manual or crank-operated side windows rather than power windows. That detail is often used in classic-car discussions to describe how “old-school” the cabin experience is and how the car was built for a simpler, more analog feel.
watertight
"eine voll insulated Top, das war watertight, eine hohe Windscreen, ein all-purpose Auto,"
“Watertight” means the top seals well enough to keep water out, which is a big deal for convertibles and roadsters. The hosts are contrasting an insulated, well-sealed top with the idea that open cars are always impractical in bad weather.
Mercedes SL
"ein all-purpose Auto, wie ein Mercedes SL, die man auf einen täglichen Basis auf die Rüfte aufbaut,"
The Mercedes SL is a luxury open-top car from Mercedes-Benz. The comparison is basically saying: some roadsters are comfortable enough to use often, not just for special occasions.
The Mercedes-Benz SL is a long-running luxury roadster/grand tourer line known for combining open-top driving with everyday comfort. The hosts use it as a comparison point for an “all-purpose” roadster that you can drive regularly, not just on perfect-weather weekends.
limited production
"Und so, die sind alle limitierte Produktionen, die sehr wertvoll sind, und meine Frage ist, ist der 992-GT3 und ein Speedster, oder ist das ein Replacement für den Speedster?"
“Limited production” means Porsche only makes a certain number of cars, not thousands. The host is basically asking whether the newer GT3/Speedster idea is meant to be the next rare, collectible version like the older Speedsters.
“Limited production” refers to a model being built in a fixed, relatively small number of units rather than mass-produced. Porsche often uses limited-run editions to create rarity and collector value, and the host is questioning whether the 992 GT3 and a Speedster should be treated as a similarly limited, valuable “replacement” for earlier Speedster models.
conceptualer Replacement
"[2686.1s] ich glaube, es bleibt viel zu sehen, [2688.1s] ob es auch ein Speedster ist [2690.1s] oder ob es ein Konzeptualer Replacement"
“Conceptualer Replacement” suggests a replacement model that may be more of a concept or direction-setting preview than a fully finalized production car. The hosts are questioning whether what’s coming will be a true continuation of the GT3 idea or more of a speculative, marketing-led evolution.
GT3 Powertraining
"...weil, wenn es nicht Gt3 sagt, dass es vielleicht, dass es Gt3 Powertraining ist..."
“GT3 Powertraining” appears to refer to the idea of using GT3-related powertrain components or characteristics in a car that may not otherwise be a true GT3. The point being debated is whether powertrain similarity alone is enough to earn the GT3 identity, or whether the whole package (chassis, aero, setup, intent) matters more.
"911 story" fatigue
"At the end of the day, I'm tired of the whole 911 story. It's just, it's been played out for one reason."
They’re basically saying they’re bored of hearing about the Porsche 911 all the time. The deeper point is that the conversation can get repetitive, especially when people argue about what counts as a “real” version of the car.
The hosts say they’re “tired of the whole 911 story,” which is a commentary on how the Porsche 911 has dominated enthusiast conversations for decades. It’s less a technical term and more a framing concept: the debate is about whether the 911’s evolution and branding (like GT3 naming) is getting repetitive or overplayed.
debate about value vs price
"we had this debate last night, we were filming and Rob, our editor was sort of, we were all talking about an ST, no matter what, even if he had a lot of money... But at whatever those cars transact for, three, four, five, six, eight hundred thousand dollars, I just don't think you can get a better new sports car experience."
The segment frames a value discussion: whether the “best” sports car experience is tied to price, and how much more money you need to pay for incremental improvements. This is a common enthusiast debate—comparing what you gain (feel, performance, exclusivity) versus what you’re paying for (options, rarity, branding).
PTS
"So as much as I'm sick of talking about 911 and sick of hearing about them and sick of people talking about their PTS fucking vent, leather covered bootstraps."
PTS usually means Porsche’s custom paint option—basically choosing a unique color from Porsche’s special program. The host is joking that people obsess over these pricey options instead of the actual driving.
PTS typically refers to Porsche’s “Paint to Sample” program, where buyers can order custom exterior paint colors. In the context of this segment, it’s being used as an example of expensive, highly personalized options that may not improve the core driving experience.
vent
"So as much as I'm sick of talking about 911 and sick of hearing about them and sick of people talking about their PTS fucking vent, leather covered bootstraps."
Here, “vent” is part of a joke about cosmetic or interior/exterior detailing—likely referring to a specific styling feature rather than a functional performance component. The point is that some buyers focus on appearance and optioning instead of performance value.
Victims of their own success
"...it is the reality of the fact that these cars have become Victims of their own success. And everyone who knows what they're talking about says they're so good..."
This phrase means the car got so famous that people started buying it for the wrong reasons. Instead of enjoying how it drives, some buyers treat it more like a trophy or status symbol.
“Victims of their own success” is a concept meaning a product becomes so popular that it attracts buyers who don’t actually value what the product was originally built for. In car culture, that can lead to cars being purchased as status objects rather than for the intended driving experience.
driving near the limit
"...because they don't have enough behind the wheel time in driving near the limit and driving lots of cars can't perceive that, you know, what's special about it..."
“Driving near the limit” means operating the car close to the point where tires lose grip and the car starts to slide or behave unpredictably. It’s a way to evaluate performance that goes beyond straight-line speed—especially for track-focused cars where balance, traction, and feedback matter.
track driving vs street driving
"especially those who don't drive them on track, [2880.1s] don't have the [2882.1s] just raw number of hours driving cars [2884.1s] quickly or near the limit"
Street driving doesn’t always show what a performance car is truly capable of. On a track, you can push it repeatedly and safely, so you notice the real differences much faster.
The segment contrasts owners who don’t drive on track with those who do, arguing that track use reveals how capable and refined a performance car really is. On track, drivers can repeatedly approach the car’s limits safely, which makes differences in cooling, tire behavior, braking consistency, and chassis control more apparent.
9000 RPM flat-six
"Right. Because I think it is a car [2892.1s] that speaks for itself. A 9000 RPM flat-six [2894.1s] with that kind of exhaust note [2896.1s] is just a special experience"
RPM is how fast the engine is spinning. A flat-six is an engine with six cylinders laid out flat like a “boxer,” and when it revs that high it tends to sound and feel really exciting.
“9000 RPM” refers to engine speed—how fast the crankshaft spins—measured in revolutions per minute. A “flat-six” is Porsche’s horizontally opposed six-cylinder layout, which helps balance and contributes to the distinctive sound and feel at high revs.
manual transmission
"plus anyone who has driven [2900.1s] any manual transmission car [2902.1s] or multiple, you drive four or five different manual transmission cars [2904.1s] and you can start to see the real difference between them."
A manual transmission is the kind where you use a clutch pedal and a gear lever. The point here is that some manuals feel better than others—more precise and more fun to drive.
A manual transmission lets the driver choose gears using a clutch and shifter, which can make the car feel more connected and precise. The hosts are arguing that people who’ve driven multiple manual cars can better appreciate what makes this one “brilliant,” especially in how it responds near the car’s performance envelope.
handling limits
"even if they'll never get to the handling limits [2914.1s] and never slide it around."
Handling limits are basically the point where a car stops being able to grip the road the way you want. You don’t have to drive at that extreme to still feel what makes the car special.
“Handling limits” are the maximum cornering and traction capabilities of a car—when tires, suspension, and aerodynamics can no longer keep the vehicle following the driver’s intended line. The hosts note that even if owners never reach those limits, the car’s character (engine, feel, and response) can still be obvious.
slide it around
"even if they'll never get to the handling limits [2912.1s] and never slide it around."
To “slide it around” means letting the tires lose grip so the car rotates sideways a bit while turning. That’s something you’d usually only do on a track with the right skills and conditions.
“Slide it around” describes intentionally breaking traction so the car rotates and drifts through a corner. It’s a high-skill, track-oriented way to explore a car’s balance and tire behavior, and the hosts are saying most owners won’t do this.
open version of a production car
"I mean, if you look at Ferrari's historically anytime they made an open version of a production car and this goes back to the fifties certainly the open version is worth often multiples of what the closed version is."
An “open version” means a convertible or open-top variant of a production car (often with a different body style like a spyder/roadster). In collector markets, open-top versions can command a premium over closed coupes because they’re rarer and offer a different driving experience. The episode uses this concept to frame why some enthusiasts react strongly—positively or negatively—to how manufacturers package special variants.
depreciating
"[2976.1s] I don't know these cars are all depreciating [2978.1s] so I don't know what they're worth this week."
Depreciation just means the car is worth less later than it was when it was new. The hosts are saying even expensive cars can drop in value, and the drop can be different depending on the type of car.
Depreciation is the decline in a car’s value over time. In enthusiast markets, depreciation can vary wildly based on rarity, demand, and whether the car is a coupe vs. an open-top (spyder) configuration.
330 Gts
"$150 for a coupe $330, GTS versus GTC is like $600,000"
The 330 GTS is a specific classic Ferrari model. The podcast is comparing it to another similar model (the GTC) and talking about how much more one version can cost. The main point is that small differences between versions can mean big price changes.
The “330 GTS” refers to a Ferrari 330 GTS model, a classic performance coupe/GT-era car that’s often discussed in the context of collectible pricing and trims. The podcast compares “GTS versus GTC” and mentions large price differences, which suggests they’re talking about how specific variants command different values. It’s likely included because these cars are a major part of the high-end collector market conversation.
value difference for closed versus open Ferraris
"[2992.1s] There's just a huge value difference [2994.1s] for closed versus open Ferraris."
The hosts are saying that whether a Ferrari has a removable roof (open) or is a coupe (closed) can change its price a lot. It’s basically a buyer-demand thing—people value those versions differently.
The segment highlights a market pricing phenomenon: open-top (spyder) Ferraris can carry a different value than closed coupes. This often reflects buyer preferences, rarity, and how the market balances “open-air experience” against practicality and structural considerations.
grand touring cars
"[2996.1s] But are those all grand touring cars effectively [2998.1s] rather than track focused sports cars?"
“Grand touring” means a car meant for long drives—fast, but also comfortable. The discussion is about whether some cars are really made for the track or more for cruising.
“Grand touring” (GT) describes cars built to cover long distances comfortably and quickly, often with more refinement than a pure track car. The hosts are questioning whether certain models are truly track-focused sports cars or more GT-oriented.
Ferrari Pista Aperta
"Aperta and there is going to be a Pista Aperta and there is a Laferari Aperta"
The “Pista” is Ferrari’s performance-focused supercar. “Aperta” means it’s the open-top version, so it’s a more exclusive take on the same idea.
The Ferrari Pista is a modern, high-performance track-oriented supercar, and “Aperta” indicates an open-top variant. In the transcript, it’s used as an example of Ferrari expanding its halo lineup with limited convertible versions.
Halo cars
"because historically the Halo cars were always available exclusively closed form until the Laferari came out and they made an Aperta version"
A “halo car” is the car that makes a brand look special—usually the most exciting and expensive model. The idea is that it’s meant to build the brand’s reputation, not just sell a normal volume of cars.
“Halo cars” are the brand’s most prestigious, image-defining models—often the most expensive and limited. They’re typically used to set the performance and desirability benchmark for the whole lineup, and manufacturers may restrict certain body styles or configurations to keep them exclusive.
Ferrari Playbook
"and so it's maybe perhaps out of reach for enough people also that it's not that material but they are certainly taking a page from the Ferrari Playbook"
When someone says “Ferrari Playbook,” they mean Ferrari’s usual strategy for keeping cars rare and expensive—like making special versions and selling them to a very eager market. The hosts are saying Porsche may be doing something similar now.
“Ferrari Playbook” is a shorthand for Ferrari’s business and product strategy: using limited availability, special variants, and high demand to maximize exclusivity and pricing power. In the segment, the hosts argue Porsche is following a similar approach because there are more Porsche buyers and more people feel the impact of these tactics.
track-focused ownership vs showroom use
"I think let's be realistic about who is buying GT3s and what they are doing with it and I really don't think that many people are taking their cars to the track"
They’re basically saying that even though some cars are built for the track, many owners never take them to a track. So the car’s “intended purpose” and the owner’s real use don’t always match.
This segment discusses a common mismatch in the performance-car world: cars marketed for track use are often bought by people who don’t actually drive them on track. The hosts frame this as a historical purpose of GT3s, but with modern buying behavior that may prioritize other uses.
turbo charged
"but have been removing the experience certainly once they went turbo charged you've lost something you gained a lot of speed but lost sound at the same time"
Turbocharging uses a device that compresses air before it goes into the engine. That usually makes the car quicker, but some drivers feel the engine doesn’t sound as raw or special as older non-turbo engines.
“Turbo charged” means the engine uses a turbocharger to force more air into the cylinders, which typically boosts power and efficiency. The hosts are specifically linking turbocharging to a perceived loss of “experience,” especially the sound and character compared with non-turbo setups.
naturally aspirated
"the GT division products [3130.1s] especially the naturally aspirated ones"
Naturally aspirated means the engine doesn’t use a turbo or supercharger to force air in. Many people like them because they can feel more responsive and “connected” when you rev. It’s part of why some enthusiasts prefer certain GT cars.
“Naturally aspirated” means the engine makes power without a turbocharger or supercharger. These engines typically deliver a more direct throttle response and a distinct high-RPM character. In Porsche GT discussions, naturally aspirated setups are often prized for how they feel on track.
center lock wheels
"I don't think I need to track anything [3154.1s] with center lock wheels"
Center-lock wheels are wheels that attach with one central locking point instead of several lug nuts. Race cars use them because they can make wheel changes faster. The downside is they can be harder and pricier to service.
Center-lock wheels use a single central hub to attach the wheel, rather than multiple lug nuts. They’re common on race cars because they can reduce wheel-change time and improve wheel retention consistency. The tradeoff is that they can be more expensive and less convenient for everyday use.
brake job cost vs track use
"it's just why would I do that [3160.1s] when a brake job would cost more than"
They’re basically saying: if you’re not going to use the car hard on a track, you might not need the expensive parts. Some upgrades are only worth it when you’ll really stress the system. Otherwise, you’re paying extra money for benefits you won’t fully use.
This is a cost-benefit argument: expensive track-oriented components (like carbon ceramic brakes) only “pay off” if you actually use them in the conditions they’re designed for. If you’re not tracking, you may not generate enough brake heat and repeated stress to justify the higher replacement costs. It’s a common enthusiast decision framework: performance hardware vs real-world usage.
hard top
"[3186.1s] until I realize I can get a 996 [3188.1s] put a hard top on it [3190.1s] and track the shit out of it [3222.1s] unless you have a hard top"
A hard top is the solid roof you can install on a convertible. Track events often require it because open-top cars can be less stable and may not meet the event rules. So the hard top is the “permission slip” to run the car on track.
A hard top is a rigid roof panel used to convert a convertible into a more structurally supported configuration. On track days, many events either discourage or outright prohibit open-top cars unless they have a hard top installed. The rigid roof can also improve chassis stiffness and reduce flex compared with a fully open configuration.
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
"unless you have a hard top which is the whole Miata work around and I suppose that with these ferrari..."
The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a small two-seat convertible roadster. The podcast mentions a hard top because it’s a way to make the car more usable in bad weather. The main idea is about how to handle open-top driving versus a closed roof.
The Mazda MX-5, commonly called the Miata, is a lightweight two-seat roadster focused on simple, fun driving. The podcast mentions a “hard top” as a workaround, which matters because some Miatas are sold with or can be fitted for better weather protection. It’s brought up in the context of comparing how different cars handle open-top versus closed-top setups.
track car credibility (open-top vs track use)
"if you can't take it to the track how could it be a track car although NDs don't pass the broomstick test there are a lot of Miatas so you have to do the RI4 put the hard top on it which is adding weight thus antithetical to a track car"
They’re debating whether a car is really a “track car” if it’s an open-top design. The idea is that if you have to add extra stuff (or it’s not practical for track days), it doesn’t feel like a true track machine.
The segment is about “track car credibility”: whether an open-top or convertible design can truly function as a track car in practice. The speaker argues that if you can’t take it to the track (or can only do so with compromises like added weight), it undermines the concept of being a genuine track-focused machine.
broomstick test
"although NDs don't pass the broomstick test there are a lot of Miatas so you have to do the RI4"
The “broomstick test” is a quick, informal way to judge if you’ll fit comfortably in a car—especially if you’re thinking about track driving with a helmet. If it “fails,” it usually means your head/helmet would hit or you’d have no clearance.
The “broomstick test” is an informal fitment/clearance check used in car discussions—often meaning whether a car’s roofline or interior packaging allows a driver to fit comfortably with a certain head/helmet clearance. It’s not a formal engineering test, but it’s a quick way enthusiasts judge whether a car is practical for track use with helmets.
NDs
"although NDs don't pass the broomstick test there are a lot of Miatas"
“NDs” means the newer Miata generation (the ND). The speaker is saying that, for this generation, it’s harder to fit comfortably for track use—at least by their quick clearance check.
“NDs” refers to the Mazda MX-5 Miata generation known as the ND (2015+). The speaker uses it in the context of the “broomstick test,” implying that this generation’s packaging/roof design affects helmet or head clearance, which matters for track credibility.
added weight vs track performance
"so you have to do the RI4 put the hard top on it which is adding weight thus antithetical to a track car"
They’re saying that adding a hard top makes the car heavier. On a track, extra weight usually makes the car slower and less agile, so it goes against what you want in a real track car.
The speaker notes that adding a hard top “adds weight,” which they call “antithetical to a track car.” This reflects a core track-performance principle: extra mass generally worsens acceleration, braking, tire wear, and handling response, so track-focused cars try to stay light.
track day
"[3286.1s] I could imagine you doing it [3288.1s] I totally would [3290.1s] not for a whole track day [3292.1s] you would do it for [3294.1s] I would do it for amusement"
A track day is when regular cars get to drive on a real race track. People do it to see how their car handles and how it holds up under harder driving.
A track day is an organized event where drivers take their own cars onto a racetrack for timed laps or open sessions. It’s a useful way to stress-test brakes, tires, cooling, and overall chassis behavior in a controlled environment.
convertibles change the driving experience
"[3300.1s] the whole convertible [3302.1s] issue [3304.1s] is a tough one [3306.1s] because convertibles really do change the driving experience [3308.1s] for the better for me for the worse for you"
A convertible isn’t just a car with the roof down. Because the roof helps the car stay stiff, convertibles can feel different—often noisier and sometimes less “tight” than a hardtop.
Convertibles can noticeably change how a car feels and sounds because the body loses some rigidity compared to a fixed-roof car. That can affect ride quality, noise levels, and even how the car responds to steering and braking—so the “driving experience” can be better for some people and worse for others.
open-top driving
"but you put the top down in a car and they just change fundamentally and you're at one with the environment"
When you drive with the top down, the whole experience changes. You hear more, feel more wind, and the car feels different—so it’s not the same as driving with the roof on.
The speaker argues that lowering the top “changes fundamentally” and creates a different relationship to the environment. Open-top driving changes sound, airflow, visibility, and how the car’s chassis feels, so it can feel more like an experience than just a mode of transportation.
motorcycle vs car open-air experience
"I guess if I want that experience I ride a motorcycle because you know you can do better than that it's like an awkward uncomfortable space between a motorcycle and a car"
They’re saying open-top cars feel kind of in-between a motorcycle and a regular car. A motorcycle feels more direct and connected, while a car feels more protected, and the open-top version doesn’t fully match either.
They describe the “awkward uncomfortable space” between a motorcycle and a car when the car is open-top. This is a real sensory/ergonomic comparison: motorcycles typically offer direct wind/leaning feedback, while cars offer enclosure and comfort—open-top cars land in between.
VR6 four door Golf Mark 3
"[3490.1s] and the track day duty [3492.1s] cause I was tracking a VR6 [3494.1s] four door golf mark 3"
They’re describing a Volkswagen Golf from the Mk3 generation with a VR6 engine. The VR6 is a special kind of V6 that fits in a smaller engine bay. They’re saying they tracked it hard, and it was front-wheel drive, which changes how the car grips and handles.
A Volkswagen Golf Mark 3 with a VR6 engine is a specific hot-rodded setup: the VR6 is a compact V6 design that Volkswagen used in some performance models. The speaker also calls it a “four door,” which implies a sedan/body style rather than a two-door. They mention it was front-wheel drive and that they were “killing” it on track, which frames how different the car’s traction and balance are versus a Porsche 911.
Is a GT3 badge justified on a non-GT3 model?
"I just don't want it to be called a GT3... because basically it took a thing that existed and improved it by adding the powertrain of a GT3 so that was fine"
They’re arguing about whether it’s fair to call something a “GT3” if it’s not really a GT3 in the usual sense. The question is whether the badge matches the car’s true purpose and design.
This segment is debating whether a car should be labeled “GT3” if it mainly borrows GT3 performance hardware (like the powertrain) rather than being built as a traditional GT3. It’s essentially a naming/identity argument about what the GT3 badge represents.
shorter gears
"and you know shorter gears and manual transmission they got rid of the rear axle steering"
Shorter gears mean the transmission changes speed ratios so the engine can spin faster for a given road speed. That usually makes the car feel quicker and keeps the engine working where it’s strongest.
“Shorter gears” means the transmission ratios are geared to reach useful speeds at lower engine speeds, improving acceleration and keeping the engine in its power band. On track or spirited driving, this often makes the car feel more responsive and helps it stay in the rev range.
rear axle steering
"they got rid of the rear axle steering for ST so chop the roof off of it"
Rear axle steering means the back wheels can turn too, not just the front wheels. It can make the car feel easier to rotate and more stable, but removing it can change how the car drives.
Rear axle steering is a system that steers the rear wheels to improve handling characteristics like turn-in response, stability, and low-speed maneuverability. Here, the hosts say the ST version “got rid of” it, implying a more traditional or purist handling setup for that variant.
chop the roof off of it
"for ST so chop the roof off of it make a car where you get to hear that"
This phrase means turning the car into an open-top version by removing the roof. That can affect how the car drives and feels, especially at higher speeds.
“Chop the roof off” is a colloquial way to describe converting a coupe into a convertible (or open-top) configuration. Open-top designs can change aerodynamics, chassis stiffness, and how the car feels at speed, which matters when discussing whether an open-top variant still qualifies as a “real GT3.”
9000 RPM motor
"make a car where you get to hear that 9000 RPM motor from the outside 2"
This means the engine can spin up to around 9,000 revolutions per minute. Enthusiasts like it because it usually sounds more exciting and feels more eager when you drive it hard.
“9000 RPM motor” refers to an engine that can rev to very high engine speeds, emphasizing performance and sound. High-revving engines are often associated with track-focused tuning because they can deliver power across a broad rev range when driven hard.
GT3 nameplate
"the way that they sort of named and packaged it maybe could have been more clever but they also like you said want to capitalize on I mean the GT3 name plate has become legendary"
A “nameplate” is the famous badge or model label people recognize. The point here is that the GT3 label has become so respected that Porsche can charge more for cars carrying it.
A “nameplate” is the brand identity tied to a specific model line, like Porsche’s GT3. In this segment, the hosts argue that the GT3 badge has become valuable and widely recognized, which influences how Porsche can price and market higher-margin variants.
secondary market
"I'm sure that people will pay more for it and if they're hoping to take a page from the Ferrari Playbook that'll be justified in the secondary market"
The secondary market is the resale market—what happens when you sell the car later to another owner. The idea is that if Porsche makes the GT3 badge more valuable, people may pay more for it later.
The “secondary market” is where cars are bought and sold after the original sale—typically used-car or enthusiast resale channels. The hosts suggest that if Porsche leans into higher-margin, badge-driven products, demand could keep values strong when those cars resell.
sports car experience
"and give people a good time... it’s the whole point of a sports car regardless of whether it’s a roof or not"
They’re talking about what makes a car fun to drive. It’s not only about speed—it’s about how it feels and how engaging it is.
“Sports car experience” is the idea that a car should deliver engaging driving feel—response, sound, grip, and overall dynamics—rather than just being fast on paper. The hosts tie this concept to whether a car is a true sports car even if it has a different body style (like a roof/no roof).
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