Navigating the complexities of car buying can be daunting, and this episode dives into the anxiety that often accompanies the process. Host Dave Polasch, along with co-hosts Cameron Chaos and Nate VB, share personal anecdotes and insights on the challenges of selecting the right vehicle, especially for first-time buyers. The discussion includes humorous exchanges about Nate's ongoing car search, the pitfalls of auction vehicles, and the importance of thorough inspections. Listeners will find relatable stories and practical advice to ease their car buying fears.
Get ready for a jam-packed episode on Let's Talk Cars Radio! Join us as we discuss car buying anxiety with one of our host, Nate, and explore his experiences with auctions, dealerships, and online marketplaces. Later in the show, we'll talk about the future of car design with AI, and how it can save us money and give us more options. Finally, we'll delve into the sensitive topic of organ donation, exploring the ethical considerations and when it's the right time to let go. Tune in for a lively conversation on Car Buying Anxiety! #carbuyinganxiety #carshopping #AIcardesign #organtransplants #endoflifeplanning
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hanging out with Cameron Chaos and Nate VB. Guys, it is a crazy
Saturday. When I mean crazy, I mean it is absolutely jam packed with
all kinds of stuff that we gotta do. I mean, i'd say we're
pretty pretty slam busy. When didn't you guys say yeah, yeah. Cameron's
like, I don't know, I have no idea. What are you talking
about? What are we doing? Oh no, I'm just looking at your
hat. I like your hat. You like my hat? Yeah, I
got a new hat. Liberty Transmissions all kinds of crazy stuff going on with
it. They've been jam packed, busy too. I spent good part of
the week stopping in like I always do. You guys know, I love
It's one of my favorite things to do is to stop into a bunch of our different sponsors and our friends that have auto garages and see them and hang them out, hang them out, hang out with them, and uh listen to all the different stories. And that's how I get a lot of different
content for this show. And it makes for fun times for me because they
fill me in on what's going on in their neck of the woods in the auto industry, and then they tell me, tell me the crazy stories that they have a customers and working on cars and you name it. Um.
It was funny because I was recapping last week and I was, man, we were so busy last week. We were everywhere. If you guys didn't
see, we were on the run. We were on the run shows so
many, so many. We ran out of monsters quick. I mean we
ran out of monsters. Quit we did. We we were giving away monsters.
Thank you monster. We were giving away a bunch of years product.
Uh we we had done a donut. We had done uh definitely. Uh
we We had a good time. We was uh saw a lot of friends.
We saw met odd new friends. We had a really really good time.
And hey, make sure you get out there and sponsor your local cup of Joe people and get you know, make sure you have some coffee because you know, coffee in the morning is very important. So we were up
and out and uh and right and early in the morning. So and then
we just man made our way from there. And this Saturday, once again,
it is another crazy Saturday, a bunch of different events for you guys to get out there and check. I'm gonna one to kind of rattle them
off really quick. So you have Rolling with the Knights their third annual.
You have Eastern Truck and off Road and Accessories. They have a big event.
You can win a jeep out there here, so you can definitely get out and get to that. You have the More Part Club they are over
there at the Heritage and Amish across from Landstown. They have that going on
chest speak, cars and coffee. First thing this morning. If you guys
did not make it out, hey you missed it. But there's always another
one, so keep an eye on that. I keep on telling you guys,
great event out there, a lot of different types of people and cars and all kinds of stuff. There is something for everybody out that event,
and we're really enjoying that event is blossom of something big. If I can
tell you guys what that started off at a couple of years ago, real tiny, it just keeps on getting bigger and bigger and bigger. You got
to really definitely hand it over to Ultra Speed. They're putting a lot of
different effort and stuff into that, and it is definitely turning out to be something really awesome and something to keep on looking forward to. So get your
butt up in the morning and get out there and show them the love.
Um definitely well organized and a lot of planning put it into it, and it's been a really good event. And we keep on seeing a lot of
great people out there, a lot of friends out there. So yeah,
all the cars and coffee for Jim cards and coffee, all that kind of stuff's been a good event. That we've been going to for years, um
and hope that continues to flourish and we end up being part of that.
So yeah, like I said, you guys get out there and spend some time and show love to these supporters. You guys got to understand they put
a lot of time, a lot of effort, and sometimes a lot of money into this stuff. It just depends on where you guys are going to
and the events you guys are going to a lot of people you all don't realize what it takes to make this stuff happen. So you got to show
your love. You definitely do so just remember that no reason why not to
saddle up and just go on riding down to those great Yeah. Definitely make
sure you guys get on your horses and your purses and make sure you guys down to those car shows. Yeah yeah, yeah absolutely yeah, so um
yeah, definitely get involved and make sure that you get you some coffee.
So yeah, any morning, I got mine, you see, already had mine, and it's not any morning anymore. So so anyway, I'm gonna
jump into it. So I'm gonna pick on Nathaniel first. I was trying
to figure out what topic I wanted to jump into, and I decided that Nathaniel's the topic I want to pick on, So I like picking on me.
It is And here's the reason why. Nathan. I was like,
why do we keep on talking about this topic? Nobody wants to hear about
this topic anymore. We talk about this topic all the time. He's like,
He's like, choose a different topic. The listeners don't want to hear
it. And I disagree because people keep asking me, and I find it
funny when I run into people, they're like, so, what's going on with old Nate vb dilemma with the car? And I start laughing and I'm
like, oh, so, y'all have been listening. They're like, of
course, we've been listening. And Nate's like, nobody wants to hear about
it. They're like, that topic, no, he doesn't want to hear.
I don't mind the conversation. You know, it's just the same information.
It's not it changes, it's it's the same topic of the information.
Yeah it is, because the last time I heard you were looking for an auction car, and now you're over here talking about we looked at two auctions.
We keep All I know is for the last two and a half years.
You know, we keep flip flop skates. He skates, He skates
in my car. Who picked him up for today? Okay, let's just
let's might yeah, let me tell you. My man puts about I'm gonna
say, six thousand dollars in the bank a year so far, probably not having to put gas in cars. I haven't. I give money, but
it's like I don't need it. Okay, do when I do need it,
hold on, hold on, hold that needed. It's like he's like,
no, it's funny because like you like offer Karen gas of money, and Karen be like, it's not the point. I don't want your gas
money the point. So just to be clear exactly, and I do say
that, I say, it's not the point. So it's like you said
that on air. It's not the point. Gas money is not the point.
I can fill my own gas. I don't. I don't care.
I gotta check engine, Like right now that takes more gas, is taking more gas, and I really probably need in my car. I got.
It's just the point that he needs to get a car. Here's to be
clear, Nate's not cheap on anything. He's he's just frugal with his money
before he spends it. So I want to make that click Wisely, he's
not broke, he's not. He's not like a dirt bag who, like
you know, spends all his money and then never has any money. He's
got money. Guys, Hey, if if you're looking for it, if
you're looking for a good pick, if you're single and you're looking for a man who U has definitely got up and coming with a great career and and definitely is good with his money, I offer him up to you. We
just just do we just create No, I'm just saying I just want to make it clear before we jump into this. So he's good with his money,
and he has some money to go out and buy a car, and you can buy it in cash if you want it to. But I bid.
But he's like he just he's indecisive when it comes to cars. As
we talked about on the show over and over again, the man just can't make a decision. So we started diving into the auctions because we have the
opportunity. You guys know, I like auction cars because I have the ability
to buy a card and fix them and save tons of money. So we
end up finding a car that, uh, he was somewhat interested in.
And it's funny because him and I read the same article. I think we
talked about this on on a show a little while ago. Him and I
read the same article about the single guys car pick of the last two years up and coming successful Signal Singles Signals Singles is a Toyota four Runner. So
I'm going through the auctions and there was a Toyota four Runner that was up for sale at auction. It was clean, it was what did you guys
find out about it? Okay? So Nate couldn't make it out to go
take I know you just wanted to prompt you. I get you appreciate the
prompt though, So I go out and take a look at it and the pictures that look clean. I get out there and I'm you, guys know
I'm a car nut, So of course I jumped all over this thing you're talking about very No, I'm talking about the other auction one, the other one that he was looking at and everything and said this is a great car and telling us all about it. Okay, I forgot about that one all
around support local coffee shop. So I take my coffee here, m so
I get some break of coffee. So great cup of coffee. Um.
So we go ahead and I got to look at this one, and then of course I get it. I'm crawling all over it. I can tell
it's been punched in the front end. It was punched in the right right
front nose. They put the nose back together on it. They did a
I'm gonna say seven. It's funny because like even just as you walk around
the car, I can kind of like just tell, like even before you went there, I'm like, hey, I'm pretty sure this is like something's wrong. Yeah, I wasn't like I'm not really sure, like it could
just be the I'm like, the end looks a little bunched up, like everything. It didn't look perfect and something. It was a little off to
me. So when he would to go look at it, he can tell
that, yeah, you're kind of right, it's a little I'll let you finish. Yeah. So of course, you know, like I crawl all
over it, it's been repaint it. Uh okay. So first and the
picture is the very first thing that struck out me and the pictures, and I couldn't tell if it was the way the picture was take or not, it instantly looked like one headlight was a little different than the other. Um,
they're both stock headlights, but one just had a little bit more glare to it in the picture. Of course, when I get there, it's
not the glare. It's one hundred percent one headlights going to replace the other
one hasn't. And then I start looking at the paint. The texture of
the paint instantly is different on one side. So I mean it's a dead
giveaway. Not that you needed that, but even if they did a good
paint job on it, there was gonna be some other things to fit and finish as far as where the gaps and everything were changed. Um, I
guess the pin striping was in Teria was pretty nice. Yeah, in Terry
was really good striping on one side Toyota pin striping. The pin striping on
the other side was not Toyota pin striping. Most people might not have caught
that, but I do know that the way the pin striping lays, it should have had a Toyota symbol on it, and they reeve the toilet as symbol didn't have it. And it always worries me is that if they left
it that way. That means it probably couldn't be put back straight, or
maybe they just lazy. I can tell you that insurance said they could fix
the car. It went to a repair shop and the owner came in and
said, that's not fixed. I don't know what was fixed, so let
me tell you fix. Uh. When I opened up the hood and was
taking a look at it, it had um some washers on one side and it didn't back the body washers on the other side. I'm glad why some
of the stuff wasn't because like the whole furnace, screws and bolts. I
was gonna point that that's the reason why what it didn't line up the way it is, and that's just that's just late. That's just laziness, guys.
So we like I told him, so he said, what do you think. I said, Well, we could buy it and we could take
all back apart, take everything off the front end again, and then relign it back up right it probably it'll probably be after we got done with it.
It would be time. But if you ays was right at the time,
the price was right for us to do that at one time. Right.
But like I pointed out, what you would almost put into it.
You're almost buying that thing off a lot, but you're like, you're not.
You're not. You're not getting really a sale, not even on the
price that we were looking at and what is sold, and that's what I desire. So when I first looked at it, it was selling for eleven
thousand, and book value on it was twenty three, so the money was way there. All you're gonna have a sweat, sweating and tears into it.
Really at that point in time. Take it apart and put it back
a whole out of tea and you would have had a wet you would have had a wet sand it to get the paint right and buffett and then pull the pin stripe and off and put real Toyota pinstripe back on it. All
the kind of stuff to make it right. And like I said, that's
that's all easy stuff. Guys. If all your car guys have done it.
For the people who listen to the show that have never tried anything like that, um, if they were decided to try it, it can be done. It's not hard. It's not hard. It can be done.
But we decided to go ahead and step away from that one. They had
a second vehicle on it that was a Toyota UM pickup truck. I think,
yeah, it was no, it was just Tacoma. But it was
a fully loaded Coma. It was a newer one. Um, it was
nice. But as I looked over, they did a better job. But
it had been hit too, and as I climbed around it, but they did a better job of hiding it because they bought better quality parts when they put it back together. But the more I dug into it, I could
tell they had been hit two. Um. It had really low miles on
though, and so it would have been a pretty good bye. But by
time it got said and done, that truck was going for about retail by but what it was worth by time the auction got done. And that's the
reason why we decided to step away from a crappy titles which I could not understand, Like the titles were not that good, Like I understand like buying it, you know, used, but it's like you know, with a bad title you think didn't want to have on. Both those vehicles were clean
titles, they weren't. The weren't repaired, Nope, there were no repair
tiles. I looked neither titles on those repair tiles. I would have never
touched them with a savage title. Now I'll buy a savage title on like
an old muscle car, because I just don't care, you know what I mean, Because most of the time I'm gonna strip it down when it's banging and probably swap it over to something anyway, So I don't care. But
on both of those, neither one of those had repair titles on. They
were clean, which was good. I did the research on they were clean
titles, so the hits weren't big enough for them to put salwich titles on them, but they were hit hard enough that I could tell that they were.
So that's the beginning of the story. I got a funny that leads
into the end of this story for Nathanael before we jump into the next thing.
So I gotta continue to the next portion. So give me a couple
minutes because you go you're gonna want to hear that's just how I messed up Nathaniel gets when it comes to cars, And I know he hates me telling this stuff, but it makes it funny for us, at least for Cameron, and I makes it funny because that is over here smiling, So hold still. When we come back, I'll finish up this little thing on or
on Nathaniel, and then i'll let them off off the look it. We'll
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You're automotive specialist. Now back to your host, Dave palatch Hey, guys,
welcome back. So, as promised, I'm not done picking on meat.
He's sunning, he smiled. He's like, come on, man,
so let me finish this out, because man, I'm still trying to get to that auction car that he was looking. I'm going all right, you're
going I'm going one, all right? Cool because when he told me the
end result about that one. I was so upset. I was more mad
than us, so so it's funny. So then he sends me so he's
like, okay, cool. So I think we finally got on the road
to like finally get a car, right because he's like, Moti, I'm gonna get this one. So he sends me this truck and I'm like cool,
it's a Chevy truck like mine because I think it's high it was a high country so I'm like cool man, I'm like absolutely. He's like,
Dad, I think I really want this truck. I'm like, dude,
I look it over. Truck's clean. It's at an auction. Um my
bad thing. It was in Canada, so you had to get too.
Yeah, but I wasn't worried about that. I'm like, well, you
know we can go I got trip away. No, no, no,
the trailer. I just throw the trailer on the truck. No, definitely
not hauling back and trip you're gonna transport. So but I was like,
look, you know, we'll go to Canada. We put trailer on it,
go haul back. I'm not really worried about that. Setting up one
of the auctions that uh I've dealt with in the past. So I already
know, you know all the deals with it, and I'm like, watch it, follow it. Just let me know, you know, he said,
just sent me the picture of it, and I looked at the top.
All I did was look at the title the top of what auction house it was at. I'm like, I know that company. I saw the
truck. I'm like, I see where the bids at. I'm like,
okay, bit's cool. And that was it. He watched it for two
weeks. He's watching it for two weeks. I hadn't heard anything from him.
And no, We're walking into Wall Wall late at night one night.
I can't even remember what night it was, but we're all walking into the Wall Wall late late as can be. And you're like, hey man,
whatever happened to that truck? And it's like, yeah, it was three
months ago or three years ago? Yeah, that was was That was Saturday?
He told me, yeah, Sat, Yeah, it was a year ago. It was like it was updated a year ago. And I was
like, a year ago. You were just watching it for two weeks.
Well, I didn't look at date, like the car is out there, who knows? I look at the published date. I was I was like,
so you've been watching two year old auction and why is it like just sitting there. He's like, I didn't realize it. It just said current
bid, but it didn't tell me the auction was over. So I just
been sitting there watching it. I thought it was I never gone in an
auction currents upcoming, I had a current bid on it. No, we
didn't have a current bid. I swear it's just a current auction. So
I'm like, all right, you know, maybe it's gonna come up, you know, soon. But then I looked at the date and I'm like,
it's like a whole year many photos that we just don't know why.
Yeah, man, So then uh what yesterday? No, the day before.
I'm you know, I told you I go down the rabbit hole late at night. Um, somebody sent me an updated, like one of the
auction sites that I that I frequently sent me in, Hey, got this auction going on. So I look at it real quick and I see and
I know y'all gonna laugh because it's not his car by choice, by an I mean, but I'm just tired of him not having anything, just like me too. I see this beater car and I'm like, it's just a
little, uh Toyota Corolla. And no, that's not what nathano. He
only drives BMW's or something cool. But I'm like, I'm like, I'm
gonna I'm gonna buy him this Toyota Corolla just because I think it would be funny number one, and it's just something he just beat around until he finally decides what he's gonna drive. The sad thing is I drive that thing all
until it died his No, dude, is that our friends have been able to own what Ian's own. Martin's own two cars before his car happened.
So mc queen's owned three cars. I mean, where's your kna. You
know will happen. Here's what will happen. Here's what I thought. I'd
buy in the beater toyt to Corolla, and he would go buy some drift card instantly, he go buy some muscle car, drift car something instantly is what he is. What he would end up doing. I know that's what
he ended up doing. So I'm like, I'm like, I'll buy in
this Corolla. So let me tell you what my plan was for the Corolla.
So I had a plan. I'm like Okay. So I see this
toy to Corolla on the auction site. It's a manual. You're gonna do
a bone? No, No, it was, no, it was.
It was a manual. It's only two thousand and two, so it's old.
Had a mismatch fender on it. And I'm like, oh you care
it's got a mismatch fender because only had like eighty four thousand miles on it.
I'm like, okay, so it's still rule. He had a sun
roof that still rolling. St had a sun roof, but it had two
strikes against it. Already he had one good strike where it was manual because
he likes manual, but it had two strikes against it. I already knew
he was gonna like yell at me if I bought it, which made it even funnier if I bought it. It was Tan number one and it had
tan interior. She was tan on Tan, which I know he hates.
At least it wasn't green on Tanna. No, it was tann on tan,
so I know he both that's not his first choice. Well, like
I said this, the good strike is it was a manual, and so I was like okay, and and then I had a sun roofside was like, okay, well maybe that's a plus two something laughing about it, and I'm like, and only eleven hundred bucks, by the way. So I
was just like, I'm gonna buy this thing for eleven hundred dollars. When
I got eighty four thousand miles on it, I'm like, look what could be. I mean, it could be the biggest piece of junk. And
if someone was wrong, it's eleven hundred bucks. Who cares. So I'm
like, you know what, No, I'm going further down the rabbit hole with this thing. So I go and I jump on line. I'm like
lowering kit. I'm like, all right, loring kit one hundred and sixty
three bucks. I'm like, okay, cool. So then jump on line.
I was gonna build you a car. And I jump on line more
and I'm looking. I'm looking, and I'm like rims eurotrash wheels. So
i started looking up like eurotrash wheels for it, and I'm like the domed eurotrash wheels. What the zo whatever ero trash wheels? So yeah, like
I can get us you set of those things online. I'll paint him
like black, like do like a a flat matt black and I'll do I'll do tan inlay on the inside so it matches with the car. I'm like,
cool, man, I can get a set of those used for like five hundred dollars. I was like, okay, five hundred bucks. I'm
like one hundred six dollars for lower cat this like, I'm like, hold on. I was like, okay, so cheap set of like just low
profile tires to go on this thing. Okay, so we want to have
that fatty look, so it kind of has that, and I'm gonna go ahead and change the stance a little bit on it. I'm like, man,
I'm into this car for under two thousand dollars. I'm like, it's
gonna have a little weird stance on it. I'm gonna run it over,
put a little tent on the window. I'm like, hold on, one
last thing, euro rear spoiler. I'm like one hundred dollars. Oh my
god, this is stupid cheap. I'm like, I really ought to buy
this car. I'm like, hold on, surprise on the fender. I'm
like to make defender match. I'll go ahead and wet sand this thing.
I'm gonna get a I'm like, I'm gonna go ahead and just get like a pin striping kit and just do kind of like a little on the back of looking for a pin stripe. Give it a little thing. I'm like,
and make him drive this thing. Tweet decides what he really wants,
give it a heartbeat like it. Just make him drive this thing. I'm
like, I probably would too. I'm like, it just it's and I'm
like, because I bet you he'll drive this thing. And it was cleaness,
I wasn't tore off. It was actually in pretty good shape. I
was like, I make him drive this thing, and I bet you he'll go buy Like he's gonna go buy like some type of corvette and turn it into some kind of like like street driven drift car or something like that.
He's gonna go buy like something like fast so you can now like play with as a toy corvette. He'll drive this to work all the time, is
what he'll end up doing. And I was like, I don't know,
he'll like I have like two thousand, maybe twenty three hundred dollars in this car, but what happens if I do all of it. He's like,
I ain't driving that, then what am I gonna do with it? And
I was like, I'm sure it would sell hundred some good money. But
I'm like you, I'm like, really, do I really want this thing?
Just sitting around? I put all this workouts out. I was gonna
put in the garage and build it and not tell them, not tell you you either, because I was too afraid you'd tell on me. But I
was gonna put in the garage, just built it real quick, and just like like one Saturday when you guys come over and be like just because I because I thought it would be funny. I was like, I literally I
was gonna put like I was like, gonna go as far as put Nate VB on a sticker across row, just because I thought it'd be funny.
I was like, just a little europe Like, I know it's not European, but I thought making like a little eurotrash race or out of a jetting the back baby on board. Was like, but yeah, I was like
a little surprised here. I was like, I ought to do that just
because I think it'd be funny. It would be funny going around. Probably
for a while your thought it'd be just like a little good turtle. Okay,
So how do you feel about him taking Blue Man? Okay? So
here you have to believe you're giving him Blue for the for the week.
So here's the problem, the way problem I have. So Nate. Nate
wants to borrow Blue. You guys know we have Blue. It's one of
our project cars, and he needs to go back and forth to Richmond for work. So he's like, can I borrow Blue? And I'm like,
you can. Here's the two things about Blue. I don't have an insurance
on the thing to be driven up back and forth. So he's gonna have
to a you're gonna figure out what you can do about put insurance on it.
And there's no tags on it because it's a project car we're building.
Yeah, we put farm tags on it because you know we're out here on the property with the problem. Yeah, there's no ta palms a little more
of a hump. Well, yeah, we're gon we're going to figure out
how the tags. We'd probably put farm tags on it, but realistically it's
not supposed to go any farther than one hundred and I don't think you want to take my tags where it's like you can throw farm tags on it, but it's not really supposed to go any farther than one hundred miles for farm tags for work purposes. So there's a couple of things and like I having
a problem with. But here's here's the thing. It is our project uck
and it's getting ready to go in the shop. So if you do this,
if you had to do these these travels with it for a year, at some point time the body shop is gonna call and go, hey, it's time for that thing going anyway, keep that in mind, Like I said, I mean that's Nate's card car Aventure. Those are funny dramas because
I just think it's funny. And uh, things that we parade Nate about
every day. Parade not parade parade. Where'd you get parade from? I
don't know parade. I'm not having a car. I gotta a question,
I know, get ready to come on another commercial break when I'm bringing up so we can dwell out before we jump into it next after an next commercial break? What when it comes when it comes to car design, Okay,
so you know a car design is like a really big deal, right you guys would agree with me too. Um, if you guys got questions on
or have your own opinion, to make sure that you guys texted in and send it to us and or email to us and tell me what you guys think. But so, car design is really really big. You know,
I don't know what like pulls people to certain manufactured cars as far as what design like makes you go, oh, I gotta have that car. Rather
be a musting to be a camera, it doesn't matter what it is, Tesla, anything that you name it, rather be the you know, the Channel new Challenge to design, look all that kind of stuff, even with the new electrical one they design. But something pulls somebody in. But I
don't think everybody realizes what it takes like for us to get there. And
even once we get there, is it a hit or is it a miss?
Now? A lot of people go oh, I wish they just redesigned
this. I just wish they change this on the car, or they change
that in a car. I even say it all the time. Man,
if they sho would have did this, or if we can just do this to the car, you know, I think the car would sell better.
I never ever understood until recently really what I'm saying. And I just realize
that when I say that, I'm truly talking out why, you know what, and I truly mean that. I never realized when I say that how
much I'm talking out of it when I say, man, if they just do this to that car, it'd be so much better and it probably sell better. I've said that for years, for years, and I know you
guys have to that. Our car guys are even you know, you look
out a car and you go, man, I think just changed this.
It just change that that car would sell. If we just did this and
we made this type of car, this car would sell. But literally,
do we know they've already downe the test for No. This right here will
probably make you maybe stop saying that, because it may make me say it a little bit less. Hold that thought. I'll explain when we come back
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Palatch. All right, guys, So, as promised, I'm gonna jump
right into this really really quick. Ready, so car design I have the
first one minute. I have a problem. I meant what I'm wrong.
I'm wrong all the time. People say to me. It happens that I'm
I'm very black and white, and I can be pretty stubborn sometimes Hey, it's just it's my demeanor. But no malice meant and I could be abrasive
sometimes two no malice meant by that. But I say all the time when
it comes to like my c cars and stuff like that, I've been very, very guilty of it. And I'll be like, you know, man,
I really wish we'd just changed that and change that on a car and it'd be great. But so I got really deep this week into a form
and a conversation which then led me to go, I told you I say the term all the time because I like it going down the rev hole.
And I was reading this big, long article that was put out, and then that article led me to read this I want, I want like I want to say, like a manuscript or something. It was, yeah,
saying long it was. It was really long. It was this big thing
was put out about how the production of cars, in the design of cars it works in a cost. And then there was another one I read that's
just recent. That was an article was put out. I think it was
the last couple of weeks. How all that's going to change, and it
just it opened my mind. I was like, wow, this is crazy.
So the reason why car design is what it is and it lasts for so long, and the reason why they don't just change things up when they think that it's not it wasn't a hit and people go, oh, I wish if we would have just did this would have sold more, and they tend to agree. Sometimes you have any idea what it cost for a car
design not be a couple of million, and I probably couple million just the beginning of a car design, guys, is one billion dollars for this, like some of the simplest car designs is one billion dollars. Where do I
put my bid in? So here's the thing, right. But see when
I hear still, we're just spending money money, I hear that. Okay,
so someone came up with an obnoxious number for drawing, they're like, wait sure, I mean, well, we'll right off for it. Whatever.
It's not. It's not we know they do clay models, they all
stuff right, right, but don't I think it's not the same clay you do that. I'm just saying, though, I feel like sometimes it's like,
you know, you see these big companies fail, and it's like like you realize because they because the toilet right right or is like I mean, just you just think about the jobs that you work at right now and all the small things that people buy. That is like right, you just think,
man, you're really careless with that money. I don't know. Maybe
it's just me. I do that a lot. I don't know that.
That's further, it goes up to three billion dollars, not like one point three million, Like they hit another billion and then they didn't stop there and they hit another billions. So some car designs are three billion dollars to design
a car three billion. Again, hit millions, we went into another million.
But are they doing the design based off of how much money they could probably earn from that design of the car. Or is that exactly how much
it costs just to design the clay model. No, let's just to design
the car. So now keep keep in mind to retool you have to completely
retool a manufacturing shot to produce that car. So there's that all that cost?
Is that budget including illustration demonstrating air dynamic? Is that it's like?
Is that all included? I don't see. You don't see that cost in
you know, it doesn't Collion. It just says the design department. I
think. I say, when you say designing, I'm thinking of someone's drawing
it up, someone's making it. I think design clay model, drawing it,
coming up with a clay model all the stuff, and incorporating everything that's going to work inside that car. But I don't think it covers like everything
you're I do it for a million dollars. I bet you would. But
I'm just trying to sign a nice car. Now here's the thing. So
here's where that gets crazy. Have to sell one. I mean that's actually
not bad. They have to only sell one thousand hours, sixteen thousand,
six hundred and sixty six. That must be a really bad number, um
at sixty thousand dollars. But they are, but they don't because here's the
thing, because not all that's profit. There's not that much profit built into
a car. A lot of people think there is, but the profit built
in a car is not that much. Oh I know, I'm just saying,
like mister Branding, just that's gonna make sixty thousand dollars off every time.
So like profit in a car is as big like the cell car for sixty thousand dollars. It was like, oh, they made sixty thousand dollars,
No, they didn't. The profits very small in the car by time,
and everybody takes a piece that the profits just not huge. So here's
where things got crazy as I went and did you guys know I liked this, Like I said, do a lot of research and read a lot of things because I just think it's interesting. So here's where it's funny. So
Cameron and I didn't experiment what three weeks ago, three weeks ago. We
did our little experiment three weeks ago. So I have an idea and say,
I'm kind of stuck on the idea a little bit. I'm not gonna
say what it is, because I just it's an idea of Cameron I came up with. And I'm not going to share the idea, but I'll share
the process AI. You guys hear me keep on talking about it quite a
bit and how powerful it is. I was curious just how powerful it was
and what it can do. And let me just this reason why you guys
hear us keep on talking about it, because it's crazy powerful. And I
learned that by just taking an idea. I had set it to Cam and
why we were driving and he was in the passenger's seat. I said,
I'm just curious, came and try this. This is an idea I have.
Yeah, he has the anson. I said, I'm just gonna tell
you a couple small pieces of my idea. Tell it to uh to the
AI app? And what did you use jet chat gp? Um, Yeah,
I'm using open AI. So I told him, I said, take
my idea and tell it and tell me. Just let's just see why we're
driving on what a half hour drive, it wasn't even that long. How
far it can take my idea and start to build it. And it went
really far in depth, to the point where we probably within the net within about a week, could probably take it and sell it. I mean that's
and again I'm being very story I'm I'm being very serious, guys, of probably within less than a year's time, if we really focused on that, we could probably sell my idea. And I think it would pretty well be
successful in some form. I don't know how much money would make, but
it definitely would be boxed up, ship and ready to label. And that's
just how powerful it is. So what they're talking about now, which is
absolutely crazy, is just say that you take a focus group and withinside that focus group, you ask fifty people their most interesting thing they love about car and design. Rather it's I like this type of spoiler, I like this
type of wheels, I like this, I like that. And then then
you just take that information and you tell AI that information, and then you set it loose and now it designs five hundred different designs of cars for you.
When I mean it designs it, it completely breaks it down into a picture or what the car looks like, and can break it down show you what the car looks like. We're talking about stance, wheel size, the
size of the spoiler, the hythe the way that the shape of the car is going to be, and it'll just break down a bunch of different designs for you. I think it's a good idea, but it won't. I
don't think we'll ever go with a full AI idea. And the reason I
say that, I feel like it's always gonna be tweaked because the AI doesn't necessarily know exactly where everything is used for into what application is used for.
But here's like they could put the vents on. They were they were talking,
well they were talking about that. It can, but then you can
go back and once you start feeding it more information information, you can go can't use air scoops on roof and then they'll go back a roof roof.
I always say that were roof like a roof roof. It'll go high.
People always I don't know. But then it'll go back and it can modify
it and remove it. Sorry, didn't know. We couldn't do that.
It's crazy how it works. Now. You take weeks months, I don't
know how long it takes them, but all that time you take out of the designing, and all that money spent comes out of it. And then
not only did you get one or two designs that maybe cost you a couple billion dollars. Well, you got five hundred different designs that could produce for
you. And if you don't like you just keep on telling it more information
or reduce information. And it's every every couple hours it spits out a different
design car for you for you to come off of and start to work with.
Now you take AI and you put them into the machines that can actually start building models for you that they have. Now they could actually start building
clay models and do all that kind of stuff. And now you don't have
to have something to sit there and building clay models. There's a machine that
can make it for you based on and you put a bunch of those in a warehouse that are making, you know, ten different clay models or whatever you want to make it out of models for you in a corner that gives you complete hands on touch sculpture of the car so you can literally see what it looked like for real from a from rendering. Right, I mean you're
talking about just this is the craziness. Like I said, I learned the
power of it just means you are gonna be nicer. No, right,
You're absolutely right, it's it's are going to be more extensive. The reason
why I keep bringing up the technology inside cars and we've talked about it for quite a few years because we've been watching this technology change and it's like I said, for and I and Nathaniel was in the truck too, and he was weighing in on a little bit when we were having camera and I were the I was feeding camera my ideas technology guy, and he was punching it in. Like I said, it was like a half hour drive, maybe
less, and just in that time it I was just I don't get floored very easily, guys, to be honest with the bout was pretty floored.
Not only did it create my idea, but it gave me imaging for my idea, from a thought in my head to the image to everything that quick to make the product come to life. And I was I was pretty floored.
And that's when I knew the power was very very strong, and I was just like, this is this is insane. So I understand why it's
If you guys watch the news as much as I do, I can understand why it's top of the news all the time. It comes through our feed.
For hey, you guys really need to jump on this. You know,
with us being a news station, you guys, you know, you guys need to stay on top of this and watching where this is going.
A lot of it doesn't relate to cars, so that's the reason why we don't talk about it all the time. But it falls into our news when
it calls comes car related. But if I show you the two hundred fees
that come through news relate on AI every single day, you guys would be astounded how it is topic of the Yeah, it's always, so keep that in mind, guys. You guys want to check out a lot more stuff
on it, jump online. All you gotta do is type in AI car
technology and you'll see it's everywhere. And I know, guys, I got
to take another curt commercial break. When we come back, I got some
more for you guys. You guys are gonna want to hear about this.
Are you an organ downer? It's kind of scary, This one's kind of
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Now back to your host, Dave Palach. Hey, guys, welcome back.
So, as promised, I got some weird organ downer stuff, right, So are you an organ downer? I am? I am an organdowner?
Okay, Son says, I am, I'm an organ owner. Two.
But people get freaked out every time I talked about let's saying, keep you from questioning are you alive? When they get yourrians they say no,
Okay. So here's right. So here's the thing. Every time I have
like a conversation with people like either people go, yeah, I'm an organ donor I just want to know where I just want to know where my organs go. Okay, And I try to Karen's like, I want to know
where my organs go. I'm like, you're dead, dude, You're not
faking. How are you gonna know where they go? Because your m is
don't last long, so a lot of them go straight to someone that needs them. Yeah, and I'm gonna be right next to them going my organs.
So here's the so, here's the Okay, So the question you you you just said is like one of the things that I think, Yes, in some instances, you still have to be alive. Now I think you're
rendered brain dead, that's what I'm saying. But you're still because once you
you know, and once blessed outs flowing, so tam because I just think, you know, if I'm already if I'm already brain dead, like okay, make use like, make use it. So here's some of the things
that initially scary probably still doing. And this is what comes up in conversation
all the time. Now I think you should be organ owned. That's just
me. I just think you should. Okay. So first of all,
if you don't know being an organ downer you I think it's eight people that you say the lives of with your owners, so you can say the lives of eight people off one body, which I think that's trific. It's eight
lives you can save. I mean, it's huge. And you guys know
I'm big into charity things, if you guys, is never first time we were tuning in to our show you guys know, charity and work and all that kind of stuff is just really important to me. I'm very humbled by
a lot of the stuff that we do, so it's been important. I've
been an oorgo owner for a very very long time. So, like I
said, I think it's eight people that you save the lives of with one body, So I think that's great. With that being said, I think
there's some other parts of your body that can be salvaged out that aren't life saving stuff, but stuff that can be used as well for people that need things that aren't life like maybe like eyes and stuff like that that I know they're using a lot of that stuff. So yeah, they use your eyes.
I know that. No, I did not know that. Well,
you don't want to think what I thought? How many parts can be harvest
from the body? Look that up. So here's the thing that trips me
out, and it's always been kind of like the issue for me is you hear about the horror stories of eight there's eight eight? Okay, so yeah,
there you go, So there's eight lives from me, say, but how many parts can they hart? Intestines, kidneys, livers, lungs,
and pancreas, Okay, So about how many parts can they harvest from it?
That's what I'm curious. So can I stop using the word hard?
Mean like, how many? How many? How many body parts can they
harvest? This is not good. The first result that pops up is a
business. We're talking about save lives and can save eight lies. But I
want to know how many I want to know how many parts they can harvest for other things not life saving, because they take eyes, they take I know they take skins and fingers and stuff like that too, for other just for other stuff. I don't know if they take your fingers. I thought
that they did, because they do, they can do that. Now I
think I head off and I don't think anybody's walking around with your finger Maybe I know they take eyes. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before.
Um So anyway, the thing that kind of scares Okay, so they can Wow, I'm not gonna list them at all. Yeah, I'm not
gonna list them all, but there's me kind of feel weird. Man.
Um Yeah, there's a lot bunch. There's six different organs. They can
take, six different tissues front of the take they can take they can take everything, all right, So they can basically just chop you up in a little chest. So anyway, they legally can take a hack saw to you.
And he's like, oh, that's what's wrong anyway. The thing about
it is so I hear things and I don't know how true it is, but it's like there's a lot Sometimes there's like some pushing of if you're like right on the border line that there's that pushed to well, you know, these parts could save somebody's life, and so there's like it's hard for the family to make that decision of do we take them off life support or do we keep on waiting. So it says you can save up to eight lives
and help additional seventi five people. Seventi five people, Okay, so there
you go. All right, So that's a lot. I mean, but
I just worry, like what if I'm that guy that's like just takes a little longer to come back around, you know what, Right that happen.
But I'm being dead. I'm one of those like the guys that need an
extra little shot, all right, Right, maybe you just need to hit me when more time with a little like maybe don't a little maybe somebody needs to like Look, I'm just gonna tell you, like, if I'm that guy and I'm not coming around, and there's a good chance i might die anyway, Like you have my permission, are you talking? Look, you
have my munition to take an extension cord and just cut the ends off it and put it in the wall and just bring it over to me and just start hitting me with it, because like, look, there's a good chance I'm I'm dead anyway. Right. It was like you see those shows right
when they're like, all right, so I'm to give up. They've been
gone for a little while. He's like, no, please, just please
try a couple times. Come on, y'all, it's gonna be like the
movie Choices. I'm gonna go to a beach. See my wind chimes start
blowing around. I'm gonna be like, it's just a live Look, It's
what I'm gonna tell you, guys. I'm just putting it out there,
like there's there are do you want to harvest me anyway? Right, Just
look, go find the janitor's closet, get a bucket, right, I'm going to jail. Just put a little water in it, or I'm going
to jail with that. I get over, drop my hand into it,
cut an extension cord, throw it in the wall socket, and just drop the other end of the wire and in the water bucket, and just see if if I wake up, Like what are you doing? You know what
I mean? Like, I'm okay with it, because look, as far
as they're concerned, I'm already dead, right, So well then you can be sure I can. My heart's gonna be like I mean, like everything's
gonna be good. I'm just saying, let's just see if that brings me
back around before they start cutting things out of me. You have my permission.
I'm just letting you know, because they're already trying to cut me up anyway. Like I've already agreed to be an organ donor, so I'm going
way they're coming. You just be like, I don't know where that bucket
came from, because then they're gonna be like, will you didn't sign the paper, sir, So technically he was still alive and you just can put committed third degree murder by shot him. No, No, you're like,
look, I was just trying to give him the shock of his life, being like what was left of his life anyway, trying to wave him up right, we were trying to set him off of the bank or read a blog I said it would work these days, Like I'm just look, I'm just saying, like, it's just I get it so crazy. Here's a
crazy thing. What brought this question around was a story that somebody sent me
about an organ donor who saved a man's life in the craziest way without dotating his organs to him. Does that make sense, yeah, he asked,
handing him. No, so a hers driver. I know, we're getting
ready to go way off the tracks here. So hers driver was driving his
hers okay with the dead guy in the back right. No, No,
serciously, I'm getting there. I'm saying, what, how does this have
anything to do with it? Yeah, so a hers driver's driving his herst
for the dead guy the back in a snowstore. This sounds like like a
joke, but it's not. It's like one of those weird sources to here.
We were going down to hill riding a pony, right, riding our horses to go see ponies with our cowboy boots on, and uh so, drinking coffee and make sure you support your local coffee. Make sure you support
yourtle coffee show. Uh so, and I guess like a car was driving
too fast. He decided to go ahead and move lanes to get away from
the car so there wasn't an accident. And when he went to go move
lanes, he lost control of his hearst and he ended up going through the guardrail and hanging off a cliff. The guy's body weight was the only thing
that was keeping them. That's right. Yeah, the guy's body weight was
on. The guy that with the body was in the coffin. Was an
organ donor. Yeah, so in a weird way, an organ donor was
the your harvest. Though no, he wasn't yet. So the organ donor,
say the hirst driver's life and that's the organ donor is harness already.
Can you imagine telling You're like you're in a bar. You're like, let
me tell you my organ donor story, and people are like, oh really, so what part you got in You're like, oh, no, no, no, no, but let me tell you what I mean, Like, for the rest of your life, you have the strangest organ donor story to tell for the rest of your life. I'm wondering how nothing to do
with anything I ever told you my organ donor story. No, I just
want to know how that conversation went, Like how does it start? Like
the fire trucks get there and they're like, so here's the here's how the articles written. I'm reading the article, the article article, I'm reading it
and the police off first, the police officer first on scene with the officers go, that's gotta be the luckiest son of a evert in the newspaper.
I'm like, I want to be like, live in the town that's allowed to put that newspapers, Like you would never get that in our newspapers around here. Our news police part would have ate that up. I tell you,
dude, that's how. That's how the police officer was quoted in the
newspaper. As I'm reading the article, I'm like, this is they found
out he was a guy that gets to tell that story for the rest of his Life's like, let will I tell you how an organ downer saved my life. I want to know how they got to the point to know he
was an organ doner. They were just like, oh, and he's an
organ camera, so are you so low? Like all sudden, I just
see your little head like I'm a camera doing so weird. Um, I
don't know, I might have shot maybe. Hey, if you guys never
saw a really nice it's getting to be about that time. I cannot believe
this show has gone by so fast. Like I said, guys, today
is a crazy, crazy day. You guys are not gonna want to miss
out. If you miss the beginning of the show and you did not hear
me say, make sure you guys get a chance you get over to the third annual Rolling with the Night's show. If you guys haven't chance, Like
I said, I know a lot of this stuff. We're starting to get
kind of late the afternoon after the show, so stuff is rolling up, But you guys want to make sure you guys to get a chance over there.
If you guys obviously did not get a chance to get over to the Chester speak cars and coffee. But there's many more to come. The season
I keep on to you guys is just kicking off. There's could be a
lot more shows. Like I said, get a chance to get over to
one of those. If you guys look, get online see when they're coming
up. Like I said, Ultraspe is doing a good job in holsting that
event. Eastern truck and accessories going on until four o'clock. I believe today
we get on over there to that event. Like I said, MO Park
Clubs over there at the Amish Heritage across from Landstown. They got the mo
Park Club show gone on over there, so make sure you guys definitely get over there and check them out. And there's another show. Where was the
other show I told you guys was going on? Riorady Chesapeake, the one
that we hit two weeks ago, is throwing another show this week, Harley.
I don't know where the exact times are. Checker. They got one
going on. And there's another one that's going on over at Norfolk. That's
a pop up. I think it runs to six o'clock. M One of
the car clubs hosting that one. I can't remember, but it's out there.
Look it up. It's going on. It's out there in Norfolk off
of Highwater Drive somewhere. Check that one out. On that note, we're
out here. Talk to you soon,
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