Chinese Car Bodies, Aaron's Defender Causes Problems - Shift & Steer EP 555

Every team every topic everywhere. This is Belize. Hey everybody, this is Shifton

Steer. We're all here. Welcome to the party pals. Oh, guys. What's up? Not a lot in the

whole automotive world. I mean, there's got to be a lot going on, but to talk about and

to make interesting and everything like that. This doesn't seem like there's a lot of, there's

not like any big news. There's not like any, I mean, there's lots of, you know, like, you know,

oh, yes, the new standard for the EPA has come out. He had a stuff like that, you know.

I've got lots of news. I just don't know if it's interesting. I mean, there's some big news out,

but it's not real positive. It's, you know, Ford, who we all love, they had a tough time,

but all the automakers had a tough time. They all had a really hard year this last year, which

I think a lot of companies did, but Ford took a loss of 11.1 billion in the fourth quarter due to

aluminum shortages, aluminum coming in the country, and that's how they make their F-150s,

and that's tough. And I mean, on a much smaller scale, I lost $11 in the fourth quarter because

we couldn't get a certain kind of aluminum bar stock that usually comes from Canada to make

center caps. And I mean, you know, I had to resort to, you know, saving change and, you know, to make

up for that shortfall. I found a quarter in the parking lot. Things were looking up for me.

Did you get your hubcaps?

I have to admit something. I am supporting China right now because if you guys noticed,

I'm a little brighter. I'm a little, you know, not so dark. I broke down and bought an LED

lighting thing from Timu. So I never bought anything from Timu. And the other day,

this thing came and it was on there and it was like so dirt cheap. I was like,

that can't be. And it came and it is. It's not bad. I'm like, wow.

Okay. So I bought something from Timu as well. I ordered some new pillows because our pillows

here are just terrible. I wake up with a headache every day. So I bought new pillows.

Those the pillows? And this is what they said. Yeah, there you go.

It's a little gel packs. Haven't you seen like every review from Timu? Someone says,

yeah, I ordered a tire from Timu and it's like some go-kart tire and it's supposed to fit their

truck. They're just like everything scale. Everything scale is messed up. So I brought

these silica gel packs. I did order something else. I lied. I was doing a Brad joke.

I lied. I ordered two things from Timu. The other one. I was presenting a Brad joke. Come on.

The other thing was this and Aaron, you're right. It was scaled. It was right. It showed a

projector, you know, to project on the screen that you can hook up your iPhone.

Oh, that's cool. And I thought, I thought it was going to be bigger. I'm actually happy it's

smaller. It works great. I've tried it and it projects really bright on the wall. And I'm going

to use it at the house in Arizona because I had this satellite over there and I was paying and

I'm hardly ever there. And I thought, wait a minute, I could just project this from my phone

because I have dish everywhere. I can get any of my stations on my phone projected on the wall

when I'm over there and I don't have to pay, you know, 90 bucks a month. If you have a big white

wall or like if there was a picture and you pull the picture off, right, then everything you watch

has a hook in the middle. Well, hey, watch that guy got a dot in his eye. Yeah, everyone's got like

a day. Brad only watches adult movies. So I have this big white area that used to have a clock,

but Aaron liked it so much he wanted to take it home. Oh, my God, I still think about that clock.

How big does it project? It turns your iPhone to a hundred inch screen.

Yeah. And how bright is it at 10 feet away as opposed to two feet away? Well, you can only

use it in a pitch black room. It's like it can't have enough light. No, but when I tried it out,

I had it about six feet away from the wall and it was plenty bright in a room.

Now, in a dark room, would it look better? Hell, yeah, but it worked pretty good, you know. And

for, you know, $92, how can you go wrong? Yeah. Well, no, it was $92. It was like 1995, you know.

It was like, you can take a chance. Yeah, it'll last. It'll last the whole season of a show you

want to watch. Just, you know, that's all you need. The last one, the light bulb will go out.

It'll be like the end of the surprise. Breaking news. California just felt,

you know, like, wait, what? Yeah. The thing is, is that they, I've got to admit,

they actually have solved the problem for them of the tariffs and everything like that because

what they're doing, just like the car parts, they have warehouses in Long Beach now. It only took

two days to get here. No tariff, no nothing. And they say, and if you don't get it in two days,

we'll give you your money back. I'm like, yeah, it's not bothering them at all. But you know what

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there. Fanduil helps you with the show here, Shift and Steer. Let's get back. I wasn't really

paying attention. Somebody scored a touchdown. That's what happens in football. The whistle

blew and they're like, no, there was a flag on the field. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Right. I think

it was Seahawks. There were like 23 or something like that. Yeah, it was like another one. The guy

was like, I just scored a Super Bowl touchdown and then not right. Right. Flag on the field. And

because that flag on the field, Tammy also won her work bet. She bet 23 to like something,

whatever the score was, and won that too. I don't know what she wins. She didn't tell me. It's

probably a lot of money. It's a lot of money. She just didn't want you to know. Yeah. She gets to

be first in line at the coffee machine. Yeah, right. We were at Mikey's one year for the Super

Bowl and all of us were there. And this was when my mom was still alive. And I bought her some

squares just to have her included. I bought her like three or four, one for each quarter,

however they did it. And everybody was like, your mom keeps winning everything. She won

like first quarter, second quarter, halftime. She won everything but the one big, but she won

like a couple hundred bucks and everybody was like, man. And she was like, I did not. Come on. And

I ended all this cash. She's like, whoa. It was like, cool. She's like, I didn't even have to spend

any of the money. Brad bought the squares and she got all the money. I took my initial investment

back. Yep. That's right. You got to charge a big on that too. Brad, I almost, I almost

bet you did take your initial investment back. Come on, man. You know, you can only be so nice,

Aaron. That's right. And he's like, listen, this was, if you don't mind, I'm just going to, you know,

business is business. Family is family. Oh, look at that. My Timu light just went out.

Man, come on. You've got to be kidding me. We didn't even do an entire show.

Oh, that's funny. Oh, wow. That is hilarious. There you go. You got what you pay for, Brad.

It really did go out. That's funny. That is great. I'm loving it.

Yep. Yeah, you're definitely got what you paid for. Here, Brad, I've got some mattress for you.

Let's hear it. The LED lights actually overheat. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Here, Brad,

I let a match. Can you see a little better here? Wow. It really quit, you guys.

Oh, I really did light a match. It really did go out. Didn't even make a whole show.

Well, I guess that was not a good $20 bill. Wow. It lasted 25 minutes. Wow, Brad.

That's funny and shit. That's hilarious. Don't buy from Timu.

Don't buy from Timu. That's disappointing. All right, so let's get into the drama

surrounding. Last week. Oh, you know what? I'm going to unplug that because the worst thing could

be that it shorts out and starts to fire during the show. Oh, yeah, now it's going to be a fire,

for sure. That's going to be a fire. That was my first thought was you're going to leave that

thing plugged in or you're going to leave that projector plugged in an Arizona and you're going

to come back and the house is gone. Although, probably not the worst solution because that house

you've been trying to sell for a while. These things right here, these don't usually get that hot.

This thing is like super hot. Oh, well, you know what? Their voltage is different,

so maybe it's a voltage thing. Right, so when you, because that light you have is a USB light,

you need to figure out is it like a three watt or a five watt? And when you use the plug converter,

you probably need to, so you use the USB to an outlet converter and that wattage is probably

too high. You need to plug it into like the side of your computer. Oh, really? Where the USB is.

You need to run it off. But then I would have to unplug my microphone.

Well, we either see you, Brad, or hear you. We can't do both.

Don't forget, Brad, those little power blocks, they can run from three watts, right? From three

watts to 60, 80 watts. If you're powering up a laptop and accessories, I have the little anchor

ones and they have like a 20, a 40, a 60 for different things that you plug into. So you might

have, that might have been user error, Brad. Yeah, we're going to do this live on the air.

I know my microphone changed because I unplugged my microphone, but we will see I'm plugging it

directly in. Back on. Hey, there you go. There you go. I can't have a mic because Max only

have two outlets on the back. So if I want my keyboard and my mouse to work. You got it,

you got to use the, I use the adapter that has multiple. I have a splitter on mine, but if you

have more than two, it usually starts. Yeah, my laptop has USB ports on both sides. And then

some of them plug into two so it can get enough power. You got to do the research, Brad. You

can't just plug stuff at all willingly. I don't have a, I don't have a laptop. I have a, you know,

full desktop here. I'm going back into the dark.

Right. Timu, Timu is like hangman. T-E-M-U. So you just lost your T. You get three more chances.

Okay. All right. So listen, you were saying last week, last week, Aaron was telling us about the

potential drama surrounding the registration of his vehicle because California sent the

paperwork saying it's salvaged vehicle when it's not. It's salvaged. It's salvaged. Yes,

which means I had to get a brake light, whatever safety inspection. So I went to an independent

because it is an old Land Rover. Now, now these are for salvage vehicles. So if you were to get a

vehicle from a dismantler, which technically I guess I did, even though it was their tow yard,

it's also a dismantler. So California just saw it as one business. It got put in their inventory.

And that apparently is why it came back salvage, which sucks because it wasn't crashed. It wasn't

damaged. It had a bad fuel system and a bad ignition system, which I fixed. And I drove it home from

Colorado after it. And here's the thing salvage that a lot of people don't understand as you're

describing here, Aaron, is that it can be everything from a car that was split in half and

truly is salvage. Yeah. As a great example, one year when I did a GM truck for SEMA, they wanted

to sell me that GM truck for a dollar like they always do, but give me a salvage title. And I

said, no way, Jose. I said, there's, I said, a salvage title means nothing to me after I put

all the money into it because everybody always thinks those SEMA vehicles are, oh, you get them

for a buck. Yeah. But then you put 20 grand, 30 grand into them. Yeah. Sometimes a lot more than

that. Exactly. And I asked, so yeah, it can be anything. Yeah. And I asked my son-in-law,

he said, well, you know now, I don't, I haven't verified this, but my son-in-law's in the police

force. And he says, yeah, in fact, if your car is stolen and you get it back when it gets,

it could get retitled and it could come back salvaged just from being stolen. Like nothing

happened to it except it got stolen. So, you know- Isn't it called an ICE title? Something like that.

I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, probably nowadays. But anyway, so I had to get the safety

inspection. It's an old Land Rover. They leak, they rattle, they squeak. I mean, stuff like I said,

I had a whole laundry list of, well, if it's raining, these will stop working. I took a video

of all the things working the day before because it was supposed to rain yesterday.

And it didn't rain. I got there and flying colors. This is like a 50 page, you know, or it's a big,

it's a big deal. They had it for almost three hours, put it up on the lift, took everything apart.

I mean, it's a big deal. And I needed new rear brake rotors. That's it. Which I hadn't

checked. I didn't get the calipers out. And we're talking, I mean, we're talking a human hair.

It didn't pass. He's like, yeah, this one just didn't pass. Most cars on the road wouldn't pass

if that was the case. Right. And he's like, and the other one is just barely passing. And I'm like,

oh, no problem. So I ordered new rotors. There was a leak, which they had misdiagnosed,

which was cool because one, there wasn't a leak. It was residual buildup from cleaning it after

the transmission cooler blew out. There was just a pocket of fluid that was still present and it

had migrated down. So it looked like a leak and it dripped. He said, if it drips, he goes, I gave

you two chances. It dripped twice. And I'm like, oh my God, I just cleaned it yesterday too. So I

pressure washed everything. So it was just residual. So that'll pass. And the blinkers were a little

slow, which was strange. And by the time I got home, an hour's drive back, they had completely

stopped all together. So the flasher relay just happened to fail during VIA.

Aaron's just trying to suck the value of these things up by just talking them up.

Well, first of all, you gave them the checklist of things that won't work in the rain. And I love

that of all the vehicles. The Land Rover is the one vehicle that's supposed to go everywhere in

the rain and off road. And you're like, here's all this stuff that won't work if the truck is wet.

Here's the thing you have to remember. And we laughed about this. I didn't tell them that. I

had it prepared in case the stuff didn't work. I want to say, look, it worked yesterday. Well,

it doesn't matter because it doesn't work there. Exactly. Yeah. It's not going to matter. But again,

my buddy was supposed to be there. So at least we could laugh about it and maybe,

you know, and maybe let some things fly. I don't know. I don't know. But I was prepared.

But yeah, it's funny because Land Rover is notorious for just leaving marks and leaking.

This thing, knock on wood, has no oil leaks. It like it doesn't leak. It has no oil.

Nothing drip. No. If it doesn't leak, it means it's out of oil. No, it's really a sound vehicle.

This is a really good car, which is why I'm so upset that it's salvaged title. These days,

no big deal, salvaged title. Collectors understand if it has a clean record,

and it was just a technicality of something, it definitely takes some of the value out of it. But

I don't think owners really care that much as long as it has like this. It has a very clean

and even interesting story behind it. But so I got some parts ordered. I got plenty of time

to fix them now. I just looked over the paperwork. I have plenty of time to fix them.

So did you just go to the inspector or did you go to the DMV with the results?

No. Because what's the DMV's thought on this? Are they going to

Well, that's the thing. That's why I went to an independent that's certified. So if it would have

passed first time, I get a certificate. I take that certificate and submit it with my DMV

paperwork to the DMV and they recognize it because it's board certified. However,

it's just board certified. I didn't have to go to the DMV guy in Sacramento and have them do the

inspection, which I might have to do. If this didn't pass enough times and DMV's like, Hey,

you got to bring it to R and or if they don't like this one and they want their own,

then I'd have to take it there. And that one I hear is even more scrutinizing. Like if you have

a dried up bushing that's cracked or where there's a gap in it, you know, and some play,

if you have a stripped out nut somewhere that they could fail you for that.

Now explain this Aaron. So you found out that, you know, that issued it as a salvage title.

You found out you had to go to this inspection. So you find an independent inspection station,

you said it's a 50 page checklist. Now when you get there, how did they approach it? I mean,

do they lift the hood, start looking? Do they crawl underneath? They put up on a lift? I mean,

it sounds like they even how long does it take? They calliper check the disc brakes?

Yeah. Yeah. They said it would take between two and a half and three hours. So I sat in their

little office with my, you know, laptop watching. How much do they charge for that? 300 bucks.

300 bucks. So yeah, I thought it was going to be more than that too. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot.

Well, I think it can be. Again, my friend Colby from Muffler Tech, he's my buddy.

He's gone through some of this. He said, I got a cool shop out and conquered.

I think it was four corners, 76 station. Again, it's state certified. It's board certified. So

they go and they did a full inspection. Everybody there was really nice. It took about two and a

half hours, but they charge 300. But they said, look, if you fix these things, which one of them

is two of them is ordered and the other one's superficial, you fix these things, you come back,

we're only going to check those things again, and it'll be $67. So it's not 300 again. I don't have

to go through the whole test over again. Only for the stuff that failed, which is pretty cool.

If I go back to that same place, which I will do.

And how much time do you get to go back and get that done?

I got to look over their paperwork. I don't see an expiration date on theirs, but I'm sure there

is one. But the state says that I have a year for my registration. So that's December. But that's

a good point. I got to look over their receipt and see how long they give me to come back.

And if it's not on here, I need to call them. Yeah.

Yeah, they might say like 30 days or something. But that time limit may not come from them. It

may be dictated by the state, by DMV going, because if you fail a smog test and you go back,

and you're like, oh, if you fix something, you can get this smogged again, and it's a little

bit cheaper. But there's only a certain amount of time, if I recall, for you to get that done.

I don't know if this is like a 30-day or like a 90-day thing. So that may be where your time

constraint is going to be. And Matt, quit saying dictated because we're a family show.

I actually don't see it. But I'm going to call them and ask, because I think I'm not getting

my rotors and a few of the tools for a couple of weeks. So yeah, I'm going to see. Yeah,

flashers are slow. There's a drip on the frame. But like all of my tires were at 35 PSI, like they

were all even across the board. I mean, whoever inspected this, who knows an old piece of farm

equipment because land rover defenders are technically farm equipment. They were probably

like, oh, this is going to be interesting. And so is that accredited to the gentleman who brought

it in and worked on it? Or is that accredited to the last place it was serviced? So I was pretty

proud of that old defender from its history. I mean, come on, man. You put the brake rotors on,

you fix a couple of things, you go back and then you send it into the DMV. The DMV will

remove salvage from the title? No, no, no, no. So it is salvage. What they'll do is they'll

finalize the registration. They just want to make sure that from their eyes, it came from a

dismantler. I put it back together, fixed whatever it went to the dismantler for. It's all old parts

or new parts, whatever. They want to make sure that it's sound and it's safe and it's not leaking

or going to fall apart. They're looking for welds. They're looking for anything, I guess, that would

come on a vehicle normally that would be notorious for this. The defender didn't have any of that

because it doesn't have an accident history other than a dented bumper and some hail

dents. So it was pretty clean. But DMV is going to look at that. They're going to look at the

inspection as long as it passed the inspection. I would think that they would finalize the

registration. I get my plate. I get a title, even though now the title is going to be salvaged.

And that's only because where it came from. It was processed. So the quick backstory is,

I'm told, a gentleman donated the car. Financial problems, who knows, the car was very expensive

to fix. The last check on it came from 2011, 103,000 miles. It was in for service somewhere

and it got a car fax. It got marked on car fax. That was the last time it was a car fax.

It was probably one of those cash for car deals or whatever where you get a tax credit.

Exactly. So the title that I have from Colorado, from the gentleman, it's not usable, but the title

I have in 2017, he had sold it and then it marked no sale at the top of it and it was scratched out,

which made the title not void. It avoided the title because you only get one place to sell it,

then you have to apply for a new title. So he never did that. The car had a lot of stuff that

needed. The fuel system was shot and it had been sitting empty and everything rusted out inside

the tank. The tank's poly, but all the components were metal. All the lines were bad. Those have

an ignition problem where the back of the ignition pops out and so when you go to turn it on and

then it backs off to that third position, it doesn't do that. When it backs to the third position,

it kills the ignition because the core of the inside has expanded. Anyway, it's fixable,

but you cannot replace it because they don't make a new one. They don't make a fix for it.

I just fixed it. So this thing, it wasn't going to be back on the road. So it sat. It sat for

almost 20 years, I think, right, or 15 years. And so he donated it. He donated it. My friend

who owns the tow yard was commissioned to pick it up. They picked it up. He brought it to the

tow yard. He called me, said, hey, this cool Land Rover is here. It's right up your alley. I said,

I'll take it. Side unseen. I don't care what's wrong with it. I'll take it. That's a very rare car.

Only 300. Just let me know I can afford it. He let me know I can afford it. And I flew there and I

have a whole journey on my social media. And here's the... You know what's ironic about this whole

story is that that's a driver that you could get in and drive tomorrow or today and you can't get

plates for it because you're having to go through this whole salvage thing. But Red Voodoo has plates

and it's fully... Yeah. Yeah. Exactly, Brad. Well, the rules have changed in the years since Red Voodoo.

But yeah, that's a really good example. Okay. The late Pete Chappours. Bless him. We love him.

Pete wouldn't let me drive that car home after he looked it over from SEMA. He really was like,

he was really serious. He says, you're not taking his car home. You're bringing it to SoCal Speed Shop

and we will assess it and make it as... And he laughed and cried at the same time. As safe as it

can be to drive. Because he said, I can't believe that you would even start that thing, let alone

drive it anywhere. I remember he called me and he said, Brad, Aaron can't be driving that car.

He was concerned. Yeah. But you should see how I've been driving that car all those years. Well,

it's in the museum now. We got the back half done by SoCal and then Pete passed away. So I have all

of his notes. I've mentioned it before. My buddy, his hot rod shop across from me at the hangar,

Craig and I are gonna... We're gonna try to finish it out. As many SoCal... As many... If Pete,

Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior, Junior will help me out a little bit. I'll replace it with as many

SoCal parts as I can and put it back to Pete's original design that he... I have all of his

schematics for that car, all of measurements, everything. You know what you could put on that

thing? Huh? You could take the body off and put a Chinese car body on it. You could make it one

of those Chinese Land Rover. The Land Rover or the Land Rover. Well, you know, I know what you're

gonna transition to, but lastly, I really did. I told Pete, I said someday if I can afford it,

which it would have been, I think at the time, like 30 grand or something or more, I really

wanted to put it on a SoCal chassis that's all done and just re-body a really good performing

chassis. So we're gonna work with what we got and make it a nice driver. I'm not worried... Not

worried about it being what I built originally. It needs to evolve. And I'm gonna take that car

back. We're gonna put the 27 October Moon in the museum and bring Red Voodoo back. And I'm gonna

finish out Red Voodoo, evolve it to something as safe as I can make it now and enjoy it.

Yeah, it's just, but you need the, you know, you got to get all your stuff out of the storage and

get a space for it and focus on it because you had the shop and now you don't have the shop.

Now my house is in the shop, but May Tahoe goes for sale. Hopefully that'll happen in a timely

manner. We'll find something new and move everything that's in the shop that's house related,

which is 85% of it out. Why are we all in that same situation where we have stuff in storage garages

or buildings and we have no place to work on our own cars? I'm like doing that right now.

The end of this month, I'm going over to Arizona to get the Chevelle on the weekend of the 21st.

If you see an orange Chevelle car body in the back of a trailer going down the 10, that's me,

I'm bringing it back here. And I'm like stressing because in my warehouse, I've got to make room

for it. A good thing you got rid of that shitty Foxbody Mustang in there.

That's right. Got rid of the Foxbody. But at least the Chevelle is on a body dolly,

so I can turn it 360 degrees. I can move it. It can do whatever I want.

Now Brad, let's be realistic. So if you see an orange Chevelle on a back of a trailer on the

side of the road with a blown out tire. Yeah, there we go. That'll be me for sure.

Being towed by a by a budget, a rental F-150. Oh, man, to just pull what's his name and put a

put a big log under the axle and drag it down the road. Brad's got his big block

truck because it can haul stuff and tow everything, but it's too risky to drive it to tow an Arizona

because he doesn't know if it's going to survive. No, it's not bad. It's because he doesn't have

plates and it gets three miles of the galley because it's got a big. That is very true because

that one that the skylight flew out of. Hey, but you know what? I watch Fry Burger on his channel

and I think, and I think, what am I afraid of? He's driving, you know, these ratty old suburbans

and taking them like, yeah, I'm going to New Mexico and I'm like, man, that would be so much fun.

I mean, I know, right? YouTube has given us so much confidence. Aaron was driving Red Voodoo to

places before he's scared Pete Chipporas up his mind with it. I love that. Do you guys ever

watch Fry Burger's channel at all? Oh, yeah. Not the, you know, his Fry Burger channel, not the

Roadkill. I am like amazed with that guy. I mean, he's a buddy of mine, but I never realized.

You talk about determination. He doesn't have a lift. He doesn't. I mean, he drags these cars home

in his garage and I mean, in his driveway at Burbank and he's got them up on jack stands and

he's replacing the, you know, the clutch and the pressure plate. And there was one episode I watched

just the other night where he got it all done. And then he goes, I am so stupid. I forgot to put

a new bearing in. Damn it. He had to take everything back out and he got it all put back

together and it still wasn't working right today to pull the whole motor and drive. And I'm like,

good, he's doing that in his driveway. Yeah, but he's got good knees still. So he can do that.

Good knees. Maybe they both been replaced. I mean, that's hardcore. That is hard. I mean,

I've done it. Sure. But I, you know, I did it too when I was 18 all the time. What's that?

I did it too when I was 18. Yeah. Yeah. No, listen, I've done the, you know, like we had the Mustang

up, the 60s, most 65 Mustang up on jack stands, you know, when we were taking the transmission,

automatic transmission, big, heavy transmission and the cruise automatic. Yeah. I don't see four,

I guess. It wasn't C6 because that's bigger and heavy, but C4. And we just did it the way like

you would do it. It was like, I would get underneath the car on a creeper. I would creep myself under

the car. We'd lower the transmission onto my chest and then my brother would pull me out from under

the car. And there you go. That's how you get a transmission. Exactly. When it's up on jack stands.

It's like, you are the jack. You're the creeper. You're on the creeper. It's not even that. It's

those bolts at the top of the housing that you're trying to get between the firewall and that. I

don't know if my hands could do that anymore. I don't know. I don't know for sure. But I remember

not that long ago, my Mercedes, I had, that thing's been sitting and I said, I have got to drain the

gas tank on that because that's just turpentine. It's going to ruin the tank. It's, you know. So I,

it's, those things had dual electric fuel pumps. So I reach up and I go to get the hose. I'm on my

back in my garage and I've got the big bucket there. Well, the hose slipped and what happened? All

that gross old fuel went all over me. It stinks. It smells so bad. And it's, it's all over me and

I'm trying to get it to stop and get it in the bucket. And by the time I got done, I'm laying in

it and it's all over me. And I'm like, going, I have two lifts. Why didn't I just, you know,

recruit somebody to help me push it on the lift and do it that way? Because I was lazy and I

jacked it up and did it that way. Yeah. I just told my wife, I said, you know, I love working on

the Defender. I love that I can say, Hey, I put this thing back on the road with a couple buddies

and in our own hands, you know, but I was looking at the rear brakes. And I do, I have to, I have

to take the short shafts out, you know, I've got to take the bearings out. I've got to, at least

I don't have to press them out. I can, I can knock them out. But yeah, the wheels, excuse me,

that the rotor is behind, is behind the rear wheel bearings. So I got to rebuild all that stuff.

And it just want want want, because I don't have a lift anymore. I got to do the jack stands. I got

to get on my knees, my knees, like I, I have a hard time getting up now. My knees are shot. And

Do you have a rolling stool that you use? Yeah, but here's the thing, all my jack stuff,

I don't have it right now. So do I go and buy new ones or do I go and try to dig out my old one?

It's like, I don't even have jacks right now. Yeah. If you were down here and you'd be more than

welcome to use mine. Well, I appreciate it. So I'm just like, oh, man. The good news about that job,

though, is because you, you are going to put some miles on the vehicle, it's sort of forcing you

into going, you know what, I'm going to rebuild all the rerun stuff now anyway, because I'm changing

the rotor. So now I'm going to do all new seals, bearings and everything and realign it and measure

it and just get it, you know, and then anything else that's down. Like you don't have to do it

all for the inspection, but you now you can take a look at everything else that's down there and go,

well, I'm down here anyway. Do I need to do anything else? Shocks, bushings, anything,

because if all this stuff's coming apart, now's a good chance. So at least you'll get in and go,

listen, reruns done, you know, reruns rebuilt, it's ready to go. Exactly right. When you talk about

this kind of stuff and we talk about California and the laws for like what you had to go through,

but even just smog laws, they're so restrictive. Like my, my newer truck, my Sierra, I just took

up because it was due for a smog check to get its plates. And, you know, we talk about all the stuff

that we can do at home and we can do ourselves like, you know, I still do my brakes and everything

because I enjoy doing it and I just can't see pain, you know, what they charge to just, you know,

brake pads and stuff. And I took it up to the garage to get it smog checked, $1100 later,

I got my truck back. And it was because there was, it didn't pass smog. Well,

oh, it needed a new gas cap. So they changed the gas cap. That's $900. But then it was some molded

vapor hose that goes almost the length from the front of the truck to the back.

That thing was like ungodly expensive, like 300 bucks for the stupid thing had a little crack in it.

And you can't, you can't repair it. And then everything else was, I said, well, go ahead and do

the oil, you know, and lube all it's up there, put new windshield wipers on it, do, you know,

just do a little stuff. And I can't my bill. I'm like $1100 bucks. Oh, shit. Yeah. But,

you know, it's good for another year now. Yeah, right? Yeah. The emission stuff is really tricky

because. Yeah. And here's the thing. Yeah. And here's the thing. Like us DIYers, so to speak,

it's great because like you take that hose and you see where the crack is and you cut it on both

sides of the crack, right? And maybe you seal up the ends a little bit just to make sure they don't

split anymore. Put a metal tube in the middle, clamp it and paint it black and you're done. Pass

a smog. It's not in the place they could see. But if you take it to a place that does emissions,

they're going to replace everything. If you take it to a dealer, I had, I had a break in

EFAP vent hose for the fuel on my Mini Cooper years ago on my contemporary Mini Cooper, my 2013.

And it was because we had lowered the car and the tires had burned through the little wheel

well liner, you know, and it had nicked a hose. And so it was leaking air. So it didn't pressurize.

And they wouldn't, Mini USA would not sell us just the hose. I had to buy new fuel tank,

new gas cap because it's all one unit. They would only sell me a $3,800 unit. Okay.

And not just that little EFAP overflow vent hose. And I couldn't get in there. I would have had to

pull the tank and would have to do all that stuff. So the dealership was like, no, we won't,

we won't certify this. We won't pass it for emissions unless we do the work because they

diagnosed it. Well, and they're the ones responsible with the EPI and everything. Yeah.

I don't want to lose their license. So I had to do it. I paid over $4,000 to have that thing done

and in a past smog. And then I sold it for $5,600. Yeah, that's how it works, right?

That's right. Hey, we got to take a break, guys. But don't go away because when we come back,

Matt's going to tell us about the new Ferrari. We're going to talk about some Chinese car bodies

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Hey, that wasn't that long, was it? Did you have time to grab a break, get a snack,

maybe get a energy drink? Or just hang out and listen to the ads.

Bucked up. Look at that. Bucked up. I got some bucked up. We got some bucked up somewhere.

Let me tell you, bucked up is at the grocery outlet for 99 cents a can. That's why I'm drinking it.

Oh, you know, out here, Vitaminshop often does dollar energy drink weekends.

Yeah. Well, limit six. I mean, that's how many you drink a day, Brad. Limit six.

Limit six. I couldn't sleep last night. I've been having a hard time sleeping.

Yeah, I wonder why. I got up in the middle of the night. Child goes,

where are you going? I'm going to go up front watching TV. Drink a monster.

Drink a monster. She goes, did you have an energy drink when you got home? And I said,

no, I did not. And she goes, but what did you have? And I said,

Mountain Dew? She goes, yeah, well, that's like an energy drink. And I said, well,

kind of. But I didn't have an energy drink. I only drink those usually in the morning.

And I limit myself to one a day. He only drinks them between the hours of 9am and 4pm.

Yes. No, I learned my lesson, man. The one time, the one day that I drank three in a day,

and I was like, oh, like, you know, going like that. And I just, no, I would, I would have a stroke.

No, I've drank couple in a day when I'm driving, you know, and I need a little,

need that little edge. Damn, some beans don't do enough.

That one's, that's tough because I like, in theory, you go, I want to stay up and I want to

be alert. So if I'm going to do a road trip, I should drink the energy drink.

But the flip side of that coin is, but then I'll have to pee every five minutes.

That's me anyway. So what's the difference? If I had, if I had you, Brad, our friend Romina,

and then my friend Devon in a car, I would basically not get out of the driveway.

Right. Oh, you'd make it to the corner. Then you'd make it to the first gas station.

Okay, everybody, here's your two gallon urinal cups.

You need the bottle. Years ago, when we went up to, where'd we go? Sonoma for the Ferrari Challenge?

Yes. Yeah. Remember, Brad and I drove up for that. We went all the way. No, we were, but we were like

four hours. No, but we were cooking like, we, I think we had, maybe it was like a Lexus. I was

when I do that trip, we just do one stop normally. That was not the case with Bradley

underscore Fanshawe. I am not proud enough to say that I'm not afraid to stop alongside of the road

or anywhere else I might have to stop. And I do. Okay. Here's the reality though, Matt. I mean,

let's not miss, let's not misinform people. Brad has a nine pack. His abs are so tight that they

put so much pressure on his bladder. That's right. He has those lower cut lines that like the

wild cut lines like that guy's committed. Brad has four of those instead of two. So when I lift my

shirt, you find out it's actually just cans of cans of Monster Energy drink. I've strapped to my

stomach for later. No, you're right. Those lean guys that are jacked, they got that V shape. Brad's

got a W. Yeah, he's got a W. So whenever he flexes, people are always asking him to flex.

Whenever he flexes, he's like, oh, I gotta pee now. Oh, you laugh. You laugh. I've been doing

my Tai Chi weight TC. I'm ripped. Brad always spit out his bucked up. No, no, no. Clearly Brad's been

doing his Tai Chi. Brad's taking a bathroom break now that we talked about it. All right,

so what was all over the internet recently, especially because we were talking about Ferraris

with David Lee. David Lee, he bought the Ferrari. David Lee, not Ross, just David Lee. By the way,

follow his Instagram because he's been driving it all over the place. He posted some great videos

every day. He took it golfing or something. I don't know. He's been driving in it,

which is great because I kind of feel like that's a great use. You have to drive it a bit,

even if you park it for the next few years. You gotta drive it. So because we were talking

about Ferraris, it triggers the algorithm so all the Ferrari stuff is popping up on my Instagram.

Not a bad thing. Yeah. And they released the photos of the interior of the new Ferrari

Luce. Is it Luce? The Luce, right? And it's... You can call it the Luce.

Yeah. Ferrari's first all EV. It's a full electric vehicle. And they went to Johnny Ive.

Johnny Ive. I'll be right back. I think they're delivering something from Timu.

Someone's ringing his bell. Johnny Ive worked at, he was the head of design at Apple,

design the iPhone and stuff. And then left to start his own design company.

And Ferrari, which Ferrari ended the relationship with Penn and Farina maybe 10, 11 years ago?

I'm not sure. Yeah. Maybe 11 years ago. And they started doing more stuff in-house and designing

their own stuff and whatever. But in this case, they went to Johnny Ive and his company

to work on the interior, not the full interior, about the interface and said,

what is the infotainment screen, the gauges, the dash, the steering wheel? What is that all

going to look like? And it'll look like iPads. Yeah. So kind of, yes and no. So he,

yes, there is a touchscreen in there like every car's gonna have to have.

But, and it does kind of look like an iPad, right? It does.

They just made it look like a Fiero kit car.

But if you look at, when you start looking at the details, so the steering wheel

is made to look like an old steering wheel, just a three-spread. Very retro.

Right. And then he added the switches to it and the different drive modes to it. And then

the gauges, it's a three gauge configuration. And then it has like some blacked out spots like

in the corners. Those blacked out spots on the corners are, yeah, are for

like the warning lights and stuff. They're hidden behind. Right. Yeah. The three gauges,

this is a cool design idea. The three gauges, it's actually a single screen behind the bezel

and then it's divided into those areas. Right. So if you did maintenance on it and you took the

bezel off, there's one big screen back there. Right. Warning lights, tachometer, speedometer,

it's all in there. And then when you put the bezel on, it does the thing. And then there's an actual

like analog indicator on it. So it uses the screen with an actual needle pointer,

which is kind of neat. One of the screens. Oh, so it's a digital screen, but an analog.

Yeah. And they kind of, because they wanted to have that and they went with the yellow,

right? Because Ferrari had the yellow gauges and stuff. And then the touchscreen that you see

in the photos and it's kind of tilted toward the driver and it has like this weird like bar,

almost like a grab handle underneath it. It's because that thing can swivel from the driver

to whatever center to the passenger. So you can grab that handle and move it from side to side.

It literally is a big handle. Yeah, it's a big handle and it wraps up around behind the screen.

But below the screen, he has analog buttons, you know, like, I mean, analog, meaning touch,

it's all digital behind the scenes. But there's actual, yeah, yeah, tactile buttons. So you can

hit things like for volume controls and AC controls. So it's actually kind of interesting

how he put this together. And when in speaking to Johnny Ive, he was saying, look,

he says, what Tesla is doing, this is funny, what Tesla does with their giant screen and

everything is on there, he said, it's easy and lazy. It's like, you could, you could easily

put everything onto a touchscreen and get rid of all the buttons. But that's counterintuitive

what he thinks. The guy who basically invented the touchscreen, the way we know it today with

iPhones and computers and stuff and iPads is the guy going, no, we need to minimize the

touch screens and have some analog buttons, have a bit of a feel to it and a click to it,

which is really kind of neat. And then the other thing he said, and this might be controversial,

give me your thoughts on this, he was saying, he doesn't like carbon fiber on the interior,

carbon fiber, for aesthetic reasons, he's not a fan of, he actually doesn't really love the look

of it. And the functionality, he says, it kind of just feels kind of plasticky and cheap. And his

use of, think of an iPhone, an iPhone without the case on it, his use of glass and aluminum

and whatever, magnesium and metals, like has more of a solid high-end feel to it. So

in this particular vehicle, this Ferrari, Luce, the EV, you'll see glass materials and then

take it the step forward and do the special coatings for the anti-fingerprint coatings on the

glass materials and stuff to it. So when you first see the pictures, you're like, oh, it's just a

new color with another big touchscreen. But when you really start to zoom in on the, on the,

so the touch screen, zooming in on it right now. Okay, so look at the touchscreen,

that's the center stack for the infotainment system, the big handle. And then in the right hand

corner of it, there's like an analog clock, right? And the analog clock, he said, is actually

hard to do because it turns into a stopwatch timer as well. And to get smooth movement out of the

out of the, the pointers, it was, was complex because it's, everything's basically powered,

I guess, digitally. So anyway, it's a, it's a cool setup. But what does this mean for Ferrari?

Because Ferrari was leaning into EV for a while and they were gonna, they were saying, we can do

40% EV production, 40% hybrid production and 20% combustion engine. And everyone was losing

their mind. They're like, only 20% of your cars are combustion engine. But they've now sort of

backtracked on that. They want to do 40% combustion, 40% hybrid and 20% of their annual production

is full electric, which I guess kind of makes more sense for a company like Ferrari. But

I don't know, does Ferrari have to get into EV now just for, is it an EPA thing?

It's an EPA thing. Do they feel like just the performance numbers that they're going after

can only be achieved? Because you spend all this money on a Ferrari and then somebody goes to the

Edmunds U-Drags and a Rivian beats it, like in the quarter-mile, right? Or Lucid smokes that car,

right? Lucid's out there, it's a big four-door sedan, but it's all electric and it's got a

thousand-something horsepower and all-wheel drive. And it's killing ZR1 and McLaren 750

and Ferrari, whatever, Lamborghini. So for them to go, we can't have a four-door sedan

out there beating the most expensive. But that car won't get parked up front at the valet.

Right, that's true. That's true. So I guess maybe their thought too is to sort of compete on that

level. Does it EV have to happen? Which is interesting because I don't know that the full EV

is going to be their flagship vehicle as far as performance. It could be more of the entry-level

vehicle like the Roma or whatever, or what is it now, Portofino or whichever ones they're doing.

So I don't know, but we're going to find out because this electric vehicle is slated to be out,

I think, in May of this year, which I'm sure we'll see specs and information on it soon.

And then I think there's six vehicles in the Ferrari lineup that are all slated to be new.

And when I say new, they could take whatever the, what's the entry-level one? Is it Portofino?

I don't know what it is, but that'll probably have a Spyder version. So they'll be like,

that's a new vehicle. We do did a convertible. And then the 12-cell entry will probably get,

if you look at their front-engine 12-cylinder cars, they always do like, they're like, here's the 812,

but then we do the competition or the Superfast or whatever. So the 12-cell entry will probably

have like a higher performance, more competition version of it as well. But I got to tell you,

just interesting, I kind of like what the thought process was on the interior design.

Yeah. And it looks like, I just sent you guys a photo. It looks like the center

panel actually rotates. It's got a handle on it. Looks like it rotates towards the driver as well.

Very interesting. Yeah. You can drag it from side to side or put it in the middle.

But you see like the big floppy switches, like you have in your photo there,

like it has to be like aluminum and it has to have a tactile feel to it. Yeah. It's cool.

That's interesting. It's very, very interesting. I'm glad you talked about it because I would have

just immediately went, that looks like two iPads and left it at that like I did. And now in closer

observation, yeah, that is extremely well thought out and I'd say the perfect compromise between

technology and kind of the classic old school tactile feel that we all love. I mean, there is

nothing better than an old vintage switch that works and it's a quality like that. When it clicks

over, it's got some resistance and then you feel like almost the scraping of the metal on metal

inside and then it lands. You feel the contact. Yeah. And then it lands and you get that contact

point. I mean, it's awesome, man. Yeah. So we don't know what the vehicle looks like yet and

it's going to have a Chinese body. And the other thing is like, I'm not sure I'm in love with

Ferraris doing with the look of their vehicles. Yeah. It's just not quite as like, I don't know,

like the 812 and the 599, those were sexy cars. That was about it. I think after that, yeah.

And then it started getting a little weird and the hybrids are, I get the powers there,

the performances there, but I don't know, it's getting a little weird and pointy and angular

and kind of interesting. But Matt, you're getting closer to 50. That's why.

What? Yeah, I hit it. I hit it. I hit 50. People said the same thing about that.

They did. I mean, they were, oh, it's too angular. It's too this, that it grows on you after a while.

Some of them do. Not all. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Some do. Yeah. Well, I'm telling you that.

Children of the 80s. Yeah. That Pontiac Aztec is really starting to grow up.

I'm going to get one of those chains and got a bodies and put it on a Cadillac.

All right. That's all I'm going to say about Ferraris today.

Hey, I have some entertainment news because we always throw in entertainment on this show,

but James Vanderbeek has passed away at 48. Oh, did he really? Yes, he did.

Oh, man. Oh, that's been really ill. I know. Cancer sucks. Cancer is so, man.

So, hey, we've been teasing you about these Chinese bodies, but they truly are not the

sex doll bodies. Well, if you're in Garden Grove, there was a big deal in Garden Grove.

Did you hear about that last week where all these coffee shops got rated that they were Chinese

coffee shops and they, I guess everybody knew it. I didn't know it, but all the people in the

neighborhood are like, yeah, they don't open till like five o'clock and they were coffee shops that

guys that go to after work and they had strippers and they were coffee shops. Oh my gosh. We have,

well, I should say it's rumored that we have Thai massage parlors up in Tahoe that are run by a family

and have, anyway, I should stop there. I've had a couple of friends who've had a couple unique

experiences and have shared them. Oh, sure. Yeah. Couple of friends. One of them was my friend's

father who went in for a massage and came running out going, what the f***?

Anyway, I've got some stories. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a thing, I guess. Yeah. Hey, right on for those

that want to participate. It's a thing. Yeah. If you want to participate and get some evening

coffee and watch a show, why not?

We've been talking about these because we saw them at SEMA and what ones did we see there, guys? I

know we saw the land. Oh, we're back to the China. Oh, because I was like, wait, we saw one at SEMA?

I was totally confused. We were in Vegas. I was like, I enjoy SEMA, but I don't remember a happy ending.

I'll be 56 this year and I have never been to a strip club, ever. My wife has been to more

a strip club than I am. We're going to have to take you to a strip club. No, I don't go shopping

at Ferrari stores. I don't go shopping at places I can't buy the merchandise. So, I don't want to

go to a strip club. Oh, yeah. Okay. Instead, we will take you to the place that America and I

always go, which is the punk rock karaoke bar. Oh, sure. Okay. It is so fun. It is hilarious.

We went there for a Man Seeks adventure and punk rock karaoke bar. We took Heather there and it's

punk rock karaoke and what do they call it? They have a drink and I forget what they call it.

It's got a horrible name and we all do the shot on camera. We do it and then she goes,

oh, that's not bad. What is that? And Dave goes, everything when it goes in the stainless steel

well, they just mix it into a jar and that's the shot. Oh, gosh. And the look on her face was,

are you serious? And he goes, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. It's probably so sweet that she probably,

all that's, that's all she tasted was the sugar. Oh, that's hilarious. What's the,

what's the health inspector rating when you walk into that place? Exactly, yeah. That's the letter,

the letter. It's a Z. It's not allowed. Yeah. N-A, it's N-A. Yeah, that's good. Okay, Chinese

re-manufactured or re, re, re, re, re, re-pop bodies. Oh my gosh. Yes, we saw them at

SEMA. They've been growing. What do we see? Land Cruiser? Yeah, they had a Bronco, Land Cruiser,

a Land Rover. And I saw, I thought I saw a Mini Cooper or maybe it was a Honda,

what are they called, an N600. Maybe it was something, but they also had them cut up as desks.

So a couple of the desks were of smaller cars and I thought one was a Mini Cooper.

But yeah, so of course I was interested in the Land Rover. My friend Adrian and I went

and, and really scrutinized it. And it was even updated with some reinforcement areas where we

tend to see failures and breakages right along the hinges and the pillars. They had some reinforcement

there. They talked about having a thicker metal here and that we glue and rivet here instead of

rivet for better strength. It sounded like they were improved, at least the ones we looked at.

And my friend Adrian went as far as to talk to the owner of the company I believe and talk about

shipping to a port in Southern California where it gets painted. And I think he, I don't know if he

ended up committing to it, but I think if he hasn't, he might be real soon. And then Brad,

you were telling us about another one that seemed like it wasn't such a good quality.

Well, no, the quality they said was good, but real world. So this was the guys, there's a video

online from the guys at Big Time Automotive and they took the Toyota's iconic AE86 Corolla body.

This was on display at SEMA and they were able to acquire it. And in their video, I only watched

part of it, but they were showing that, like for instance, the rear factory tail lights.

They went in, but a couple of the holes weren't in the right place for the, you know, the screws

to go through. And then the recess on the body line, you put it in and it went like another

half inch farther back than what a stock one does. But then one of the other things was the

side marker light on the passenger side. It was right. But on the driver's side,

they didn't mirror it and punch the hole. They just turned the tooling upside down and punched

the hole. So you'd have a, you'd have a, you know, one side marker light right and the other one

upside down if you went that way. Then some of the other things they noted was these used fine

thread on all of the parts where you screw into the body panels and like that. And these had all

been tapped for coarse thread. So they, they were only about a third of the way into what I

watched on the video, but I'm going to go back and watch it because it was pretty interesting

to see some of the things they were coming up and they had gotten a donor car and they were

literally going to transfer every part from the donor car over to this body.

I think the guys from throttle are doing something similar to that too. I know they were donating

parts out of a Honda, but I don't remember if they were using another Honda. I think an early

prelude or something. I'll have to revisit that, but, but they're doing that too because they were

going to use this old car and then they went to a body shop and they're like, no man, we got a

brand new remanufactured, you know, a body for these. And they're like, wow, it's amazing. And

they painted it and they were real impressed. So the next episode is, is the assembly. So I'm

going to see if they have the same problems. I'm really, really curious. We should do one with the,

with the AMC Matador body that you can get out here. That would be awesome. You know?

What? I can see somebody in China going, let's redo the Matador, you know, and it's like,

or the Pacer, or the great man. Hey, we can, you know what? Don't get me started on the Pacer.

The Pacer. I think a, a, a retro mod, uh, Pacer revisit might be kind of interesting.

It's a poor business model. I'm trying to repop bodies for that thing. I don't think there's

people lining up to me. Right. Right. But, but, but I would like to see it redesigned under modern

standards and be kind of like a hot hatch, kind of weird retro thing. Uh, I'd be curious. Matt?

Dave Merrick, what do you got? I saw something online the other day and, um, it was a Mustang,

but what year was it? Was it 72, 73 when they got real long? Was that? Yes, 71. Yeah. Okay.

So 71, 72, 73. Yeah. And this guy had taken a Mach 1 of that year, which I have never liked those

years. I just, yeah. It's a big car. But he, um, he did the, raised it up like four inches and put

some 31 inch tires on it and a roof rack. It looked good. I was like, whoa. Okay. Now I like those.

It's proportion to it. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, Safari, that thing, man. Yeah. It looked good

that way. So it started with, for the most part, like it started getting attention was, um, the

Thomas Crown Affair, the Pierce Brosnan reboot. Right. And he flew out to us a lot and he got,

he had like his Shelby with, that was like lifted his Shelby convertible. Yeah. 500. Yeah. That was,

yeah. And I was, I was in Detroit talking with like a guy that worked at Ford and, and he was,

he's like, oh, I built one of those. He was like, my dad and I built one. We have, you know, we,

we did her, you know, a clone, a Shelby clone. We lifted it. We made one of those. And, uh,

and that was a cool, that was a cool thing to see in that, in that movie. And then

because they're gone in 60 second cars, like that's what blew up and everybody wanted. But

there's this new, there's this interest level and, and having, you know, the, the off-road version.

The world's gone safari. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. But now when we say like,

Dakar or safari, because like, you know, portion to their Dakar, their 911 version.

So now we're, we're, we don't want to say off-road because it turns everything into a truck when

we're like, you just turn it into a car. Yeah, we're going to put a pickup truck chassis under it,

raise it up to some 44 inch monster motor. Yeah. Yeah. But, but you know, but as soon as you call

it a Dakar version, everyone's like, oh, that's high end. That's, that's cool. Like just don't

call it a lekar version. Right. Then it becomes French. Hey, I would do, I would do a Dakar

lekar. I saw a 914 and a 944 that were done recently and it looked pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, okay, I'm, I'm really like, the thing is, is like that Mustang body that 71 to 73,

if it's not a Mach 1 or a Boss car or something like that, you could pick them up. Oh yeah. So

it's like, that'd be the one to do because it'd be, because there's tons of parts for them. And

yeah, right. You know, it'd be a fun car to do. Well, well, don't forget about Richard Rawlings.

He has, he has one of the Thomas Crown ones. Yeah. I don't know if that one's off-center.

Hey, Carter had one too. Oh, did he? Oh, wow. He had the 442 and he had, and he had one of those.

Wow. I don't know if Richard's is authentic, if it's a authentic movie car that he,

Rawlings? Yeah. No, he built that thing. He did. Okay. I figured he built it, but one time I

thought, I thought, I remembered him saying that, that he, he got it. It was original movie car or

something or something. So, huh. I'll have to ask him. But I just saw that online and I thought,

wow. Yeah. I never looked at one of those that I even remotely was like, oh, I'd like to do

something with that. And then I looked at that and I went, what? Well, like, even the modern

Jeep, so like my mom bought, you know, a late model Jeep years ago and it just had these stock

little wheels and it was a four door and it looked so ugly. I'm like, mom, you got to get one that's

lifted. She's like, well, but then I can't get in it. And man, I don't think she kept that thing

for six months and she was like, yeah, you're right. This, this looks so horrible. Every time I

walk out, I'm like, that looks horrible. So, so, you know, we had to put some nice wheels and tires

and, and, and make it more proportioned. And when it was that long, it just looked so terrible with

more like road, road mannered, you know, wheels and tires and suspension. But the second you lifted

it and put some bigger wheels and tires on the same car or Jeep, it looked amazing. It was all

about those proportions and oddly enough, you had to raise it up. Yeah. Yeah. A smart car.

There's a smart car kit now and I've seen quite a few of them. You mentioned that before. Yeah,

I wanted to do it, but it was really involved. A smart car kit? Yeah, it was really involved. But

now they have kits to lift them and make them into a little off road thing. And I think they look

goofily awesome. They look like a little Tonka truck. You know, I love that stuff. It's like,

well, what else could we do with that? I don't know. It's like, there's the little car. Can we

raise up and let's take the shortest wheelbase car and make it top and see if it ever falls over.

It would just roll down a hill. We just, well, you just, you just make it wider. You just have

to put wider wheels and tires on it. So they offset to too much and then you won't get the

roll over. Then the body would just roll in the fender. Well, it'll just roll into the tire.

Well, it won't roll side to side, but it'll still roll forward to back. You imagine driving

that thing hitting the brakes in a panic stop and it just starts tumbling forward.

He's just jumbling. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know, that was a big problem at China when we were driving

his couch. That was a big problem as he had shortened the wheelbase on the Mini Cooper so much

to fit the proportions of a couch that you had to break very gently. In fact, when we were going

down Lumbard, I had to hang off the back of it so that it didn't roll forward going down the hill.

And I accidentally put my foot, I put my foot into it and went right through whatever that was

that it was made out of in the back. I felt so bad. I'm like, Oh my God, Ed, I just kicked a hole in

your car. It's like, Oh, that's okay. I'm like, No, it's not. It's a couch.

Your car still starts at the sea.

And that bar in Vegas is the double down saloon. The double down saloon. Okay, there you go.

Well, it's got dark and windy outside. Yeah, I think we're wrapping it up. We're going to have

to wrap it up. We're 30 in. I better batten down the hour and 15 minutes in. All right,

everybody. Fun show. Matt, anything to plug? I do not. We're making some changes in the beverage

world. That's exciting, Matt. I'm really excited because I can consume this. Yes. How about you,

Aaron? Anything to plug? No, I'll be plugging in a new speedometer as soon as it comes in the

mail. I'll plug it for you then. Go over to BunspeedStreetwear.com. Order some clothes. More and

more people are finding out about them. And, you know, we're starting to see things happen. We're

sure pushing it a lot. And we've got a huge variety, hot rod, muscle car, racing, all kinds of cool

stuff. I'd love to sample some of yours, but all I have are Mikey's. Yeah. So anyways, hey,

everybody, go check it out. BunspeedStreetwear.com. Show us some love and help us get this thing moving

off the dime. And then I'll be able to do this. I'll be able to do this. And for those of you

so busy, maybe I won't be able to do this. So it works both ways, right? Didn't you make these back

in the day though? Because he never made that one. We made a bunch of other ones, but not that

particular. Oh, sorry. I thought that was you, Brett. That was you. All right, everybody, we'll

be back next week. And you know what? That's a promise, not a threat. Unless I make it a threat.

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