“Carbureted” means the bike uses a carburetor to blend fuel and air. It’s an older style of fuel system compared with modern fuel injection.
Concept
whiskey throttled out of the parking lot
He’s basically saying he gave it a lot of throttle immediately. On a bike, that can be tricky for a beginner because you have to balance throttle and control to avoid stalling or losing traction.
This part is about how the host learned to ride and what happened when they made a throttle mistake. It explains the “scary but not a full wreck” moment that changed how they rode afterward.
“Slam the rear” means lowering the back of the bike so it sits closer to the ground. People do it for the look, but it can change how easily you scrape or how the bike feels.
Term
delete the wiring
“Delete the wiring” means removing or simplifying some of the bike’s electrical connections. It’s often done for a custom setup, but messing with wiring can cause problems if it’s not done right.
Car
Kawasaki zx6r
The Kawasaki ZX-6R is a sport motorcycle built to be quick and responsive. The host mentions it because it was their first bike, and that’s where their learning (and a scary throttle moment) started.
They’re talking about the engine (“motor”) and the gearbox (“trans”). Taking them out is a common step when you’re rebuilding or customizing a bike.
Part
paco frame
The frame is the main metal skeleton of the bike. Buying a custom frame means the builder is planning the bike’s layout and fitment from scratch.
Part
springer wheel
A “springer” wheel typically refers to a front-end setup associated with a springer-style fork (a classic Harley custom look). It changes the motorcycle’s front suspension geometry and ride feel, and it’s commonly chosen for chopper aesthetics and stance.
Brand
bilIly
They sent the engine out to a person/shop (“billy”) that likely builds or works on motors professionally. That’s common when you want the engine done right for a custom bike.
Beaver Bash is a motorcycle/custom-bike event mentioned as a turning point. The speaker links it to seeing other bikes and deciding what to build next.
Arlenes motorcycles is a company that makes aftermarket parts for custom motorcycles. They’re basically saying their parts are the kind you’d use to build a custom bike or upgrade an existing one.
Bars are the handlebars, and risers are the pieces that lift or reposition them. Changing them can make the bike feel more comfortable and easier to control.
A full-face helmet covers your whole head, including the chin. “GP race” means it’s built for racing-style riding, usually with a more aerodynamic shape and secure fit.
“Soft tail” usually means the bike has rear suspension. The host is basically saying parts from a more suspension-equipped bike ended up in this build.
They’re talking about buying the bike through an online listings site. With used vehicles, you can’t always trust the description, so it helps to check it carefully before paying.
They mean building the bike by buying parts separately instead of one complete bike. It can be smarter if you can verify parts, but it takes more time.
Aftermarket just means parts made by companies other than the brand that made the bike. People use them to customize or upgrade what came from the factory.
“Plug and play” means the new engine is set up so you can install it with little extra work. The goal is to get it running quickly without lots of custom fabrication.
“80 inch” is how people describe the engine’s size using cubic inches. Bigger numbers usually mean the engine can make more torque, which helps it pull harder.
“93 inch” is a bigger engine size number measured in cubic inches. The bigger the number, the more the builder is usually aiming for stronger low-end pulling power.
A sissy bar is the tall backrest you see behind a motorcycle rider. On custom bikes it can help a passenger hold on and it also changes the bike’s style.
Here, “rigidity” means the bike part doesn’t wobble or bend much. Stiffer parts can make the motorcycle feel more stable.
Term
tough guy fucking muscle bike style
“Muscle bike” here is more about the look and attitude than a specific brand or model. He’s describing a bold, aggressive custom style he wants for his next motorcycle.
Term
t-tars
“T-bars” are a type of motorcycle handlebar shape. People use them on choppers because they affect how you sit/ride and they look very classic.
The “top end” is the upper part of the engine where the valves and cylinder head live. Taking it apart usually means doing work or a rebuild on those parts.
“Cases” are the engine’s main housings that hold the internal parts. Sending them out usually means they’re cleaned or worked on so the engine can be rebuilt properly.
A motorcycle chain is what transfers power to the back wheel. Like any moving part, it slowly wears out and needs replacement so the bike keeps running right.
The sprocket is the gear the chain wraps around. If it wears down, the chain doesn’t grip as well, and you may need to replace parts to keep things smooth.
Spoke wheels are the classic motorcycle wheels made of metal spokes. They can look awesome, but they may require more upkeep than some other wheel types.
A 21-inch front wheel is a fairly large tire size. If you’re dealing with a tube-type tire, bigger tires can be more of a hassle to pull apart and fix.
Term
spool wheel
A spool wheel is a custom wheel style used on choppers. Because of how it’s built, tire/tube work can be more annoying than on standard wheels.
The front brake is the brake that slows the front wheel. Most motorcycles rely heavily on the front brake, so not having it can make stopping feel totally different.
Foot clutch means the clutch is controlled with your foot instead of a hand lever. That can change how you learn to shift, because your foot has to do more of the work.
A throwout bearing is a small part in the clutch system. When it starts going bad, it can make the bike act weird when you’re using the clutch, especially around stops.
Power shifting means you change gears quickly while still giving the engine power. The goal is to keep the bike moving hard instead of slowing down during the shift.
Riding in a pack means a bunch of bikes ride together. It changes how you accelerate and handle traffic, especially around intersections.
Term
deep tissue sprain
A sprain is an injury to the soft tissues that hold you together, like ligaments. “Deep tissue” means it’s more serious, but X-rays can still look normal if there’s no bone break.
On a motorcycle, the “front end” is the part that controls the front wheel and suspension. If it’s bent or damaged, the bike can handle dangerously, so you may need a replacement front assembly.
The clutch hub is part of the motorcycle’s clutch system that helps transfer power to the wheels. If it’s damaged, the bike may not shift or pull correctly, so you can’t ride it safely.
U-Haul is a company that rents trucks and trailers for moving or hauling. In this context, it’s being used to transport the bike after the front-end/clutch damage.
The axle is the part that holds the wheel to the bike. If it’s missing or not secured, the wheel can come loose and the bike can’t be controlled safely.
If you hear metal scraping or clunking, it often means parts are rubbing or not secured. In the story, that sound turned out to be a brake component coming loose.
Countersunk screws are screws whose heads are shaped to sit flat in a hole. Even if they look flush, they can still loosen unless they’re properly secured.
Main Drive is the name of the shop/brand that built the transmission mentioned in the story. They focus on making transmissions and trying to stop leaks.
Seals are the parts that help keep fluids from leaking. If a seal wears out or isn’t seated right, you can get seepage or leaks around the transmission or engine.
A sand dunes route means you’re driving on loose sand instead of normal pavement. The sand can reduce grip and make it easier to get stuck, so you drive more carefully.
Switchbacks are roads that go up (or down) a hill in a zig-zag pattern. They’re usually twisty, so you have to drive slower and pay attention to the turns.
Off-road just means driving where the road isn’t paved or isn’t meant for regular cars. It usually requires more careful driving because the surface can be unpredictable.
A temporary visa is a short permission to enter a country. Here, it’s the short paperwork you’re supposed to get so you can bring the bike in for about a week.
They’re talking about going to Daytona for motorcycle-related events. The point they make is that it can be colder than people expect, even if it’s famous for a fun, beachy image.
Topic
Choosing scenic routes vs blasting an interstate
They’re talking about how you can have a better ride by planning a route with interesting towns and stops, instead of just taking the fastest highway. The trip becomes part of the experience.
They talk about riding with planned stops—like getting gas regularly and taking breaks—so the day doesn’t feel exhausting. It’s about pacing yourself on a long trip.
Concept
interstate road trip pacing
They’re talking about how you can ride a long way either by rushing to get there or by slowing down to enjoy the trip. The slower way usually means more stops for food, photos, and relaxing.
Dirt drags are drag races on a dirt track instead of pavement. Since the surface grips differently, it’s harder to launch cleanly and the race can feel more unpredictable.
Jets are tiny fuel metering parts inside a carburetor. Bigger or smaller jets can make the engine run richer or leaner, which affects power and smoothness.
CV carbs are carburetors that use vacuum to control how the throttle slide opens. They tend to make fueling smoother, but they can be tricky to swap onto certain custom builds.
Term
carb support
It’s the bracket or mounting hardware that holds the carburetor in place. If the engine case doesn’t have the usual mounting point, you have to improvise so the carb sits correctly.
Fuel mixture is the ratio of fuel to air the engine receives. Carburetor tuning changes this ratio, and getting it wrong can make the bike run poorly or waste fuel.
The “sweet spot” is the tuning point where the bike runs the best—smooth response without wasting fuel.
Term
sporty narrow tank
It’s a smaller, narrower fuel tank. Because it holds less fuel (and may be shaped differently), it changes your range and sometimes where the fuel cap and fuel valve are located.
The petcock is the valve that lets fuel flow from the tank to the engine. If you change tanks, you may need to relocate it so fuel pickup works correctly.
Term
gas station within 100 miles
It’s about planning your trip so you don’t run out of fuel. Real-world range can change based on how the bike is tuned.
“Roadside maintenance” is fixing or adjusting the bike when you’re pulled over or stuck on the side of the road. On older or heavily customized bikes, that can be part of long-distance riding.
Concept
ride high
They mean that excited, “this is new and awesome” feeling you get when you start something fresh. It’s not a specific car-tech term—more like the thrill of the first ride or first build.
Concept
roguelite
“Roguelite” is a type of game where you replay runs and learn/improve over time. They’re using it as a comparison to explain how people chase new experiences on motorcycles.
Concept
lateral movement
They’re saying it’s not really a new experience if you just swap to something similar. It’s more like changing the surface, not the whole idea.
Car
low rider st
“Low Rider ST” is a specific Harley-Davidson motorcycle model. They’re using it as an example of how changing bikes can change the feel of the ride, even if you’re still doing similar riding.
Car
Road Glide
A Road Glide is a Harley-Davidson touring motorcycle. It’s built for long rides, and the speaker is saying they’ve gotten comfortable taking it on trips.
Car
FXR
FXR is a Harley-Davidson motorcycle model. The speaker is talking about taking an FXR on a long, multi-week ride across the country.
The Cupra Born is a small electric car that runs on a battery instead of gasoline. It’s designed for city and everyday driving, and it can still feel quick when you press the accelerator. People mention it when they’re talking about electric cars that are meant to be fun and practical.
Term
cone shovel
“Cone shovel” is a nickname for a custom Harley setup. It usually means a Shovelhead-style engine with a cone-shaped air intake.
“Generator style motors” means the bike charges its electricity using a generator. Builders care because it changes the electrical system and parts you might need.
They’re talking about a motorcycle event in Galveston and a ride with other riders. It’s mostly about the people, the bikes, and the experience together.
Kickstart means starting the bike by kicking a lever with your foot. It’s more old-school than pressing a button, though some bikes have both kick and electric start.
Porsche is a well-known German car brand that makes sporty cars. Here, the host is saying their love of custom motorcycles made them start liking Porsche cars too.
Chrome refers to a highly reflective metal finish (chromium plating) commonly used on custom motorcycles and hot rods. It’s popular for show because it looks great when new, but it can chip, pit, and tarnish—so it often becomes “lived-in” once you actually ride it.
Chain lube is oil you put on a motorcycle’s chain so it doesn’t wear out as fast. It can also get thrown onto the wheel area, which is why it can be messy to clean.
A chain guard is a cover that helps keep the chain area contained. If you don’t have one, the chain can throw oil and grime onto the wheel, fender, and your clothes.
A “show bike” is a motorcycle built mainly to look perfect for events. The speaker is saying his bike is more about riding and personal style than winning a beauty contest.
“Patina” is the natural wear-and-tear look a vehicle gets as you use it. Here, the host is saying he wants that lived-in look to happen on purpose, not to keep everything brand new.
Term
gas overflow
“Gas overflow” means fuel is leaking or spilling out somewhere on the bike. The speaker is saying that kind of mess helps create the worn-in look he wants.
Backfiring is when the engine makes loud pops or bangs instead of running smoothly. It can be a sign something isn’t burning right, especially after the bike has been working hard.
“74 inch” refers to engine displacement measured in cubic inches—commonly used in Harley-Davidson V-twin culture. A larger displacement generally means more potential torque, but it can also increase heat and oil demands under heavy riding.
An oil cooler is like a radiator for your engine oil. It helps keep the oil from getting too hot, which can protect the engine when you’re riding hard or in hot weather.
If the oil stays too cold, it can get too thick and not protect the engine as well. The engine needs the oil to warm up so it can flow and lubricate properly.
“60 weight” is the oil viscosity rating—basically how thick the oil is. The right thickness helps the engine lubricate properly, whether it’s hot or cold.
Electronic ignition is the system that makes the spark happen at the right time. It can make starting and running smoother compared to older ignition setups.
“Points” are an older-style ignition method that uses mechanical contacts. They can get out of adjustment or wear out, so electronic ignition is often easier to live with.
“Prime” means you’re helping the carburetor get fuel ready for starting. “Three prime kicks” is basically their tried-and-true routine for starting without flooding.
“Flooding” means there’s too much fuel in the engine for it to start. If you give it too much gas while starting, it can get flooded and refuse to catch.
“Timing” is about when the spark happens compared to where the engine is. Getting it right helps the bike start and run smoothly.
Car
shovel head
“Shovelhead” is a nickname for a Harley-Davidson engine. People talk about it a lot because it’s a classic, air-cooled V-twin that shows up in a lot of older/custom bikes.
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worry when we get new guys here he's you've done it before though didn't you do the
those one the tables over here yeah for uh when all the boys were over oh wait we did that that
Christmas special we all did mushrooms yeah I bet that was a wild fucking ride it was a ugly
sweater Christmas special and we did mushrooms on water burger uh hamburgers been there done that
fucking patty milk it's the best way to eat it like the best way to eat mushrooms is on water
water burger so yeah these got it
Graham Jase bro large and in charge man how'd you get so tall titty milk I think I don't know
where the milkman's kid I don't know I'm taller than my dad so yeah there's that right the uh
when I first like found out about your metro whatever was at the beaver bash too
and you pulled up a little bit after we had already been there for a while or a day
or something like that and it's like your bike is you like the sissy bar how tall is your sissy bar
on that bike probably five and a half foot tall wow yeah is there a proportional yeah and it you
were saying it earlier it's like uh when you ride it it looks it kind of it's like shack on a bike
right like it's like it looks proportional yeah but then when you put like the girls that were
doing it with strays photography or photo shoot you're like goddamn you could put a lot of girls
yeah you realize how big a fucking school bus yeah yeah lightning rod of a sissy bar
fucking 16 over front end yeah what's the frame on that bike it's Paco that's what I was thinking
it has that like the neck gusset area yeah yeah it reminds me of like two up 40 degree rake chopper
neck like yeah man yeah you've been on a sick one man you said a while ago uh literally what was the
first event you started going on this year to start this uh six-week bender that that's been
taking place it was the Fort Worth swap yeah me and my buddy Ryan come up and
we both uh I mean not to put our shit out there we've gone through some life changes the past year
you know I mean just need to let loose a little bit yeah and we just hit the Fort Worth swap hard
fucking partied our asses off all weekend and we were like driving back all the fucking hungover
sunday driving back to Austin or just like that was fucking fun dude we gotta keep this momentum
going yeah and then it just the way the events lined up like um the next weekend was south by
oh so we were in fucking Austin tearing it up at this lone star thing ended up at the
titter at like three in the fucking morning like just went on a fucking terror dude and then
nitty gritty fandango was the weekend after that then there was the dentin swap then there was
brendan's thing into cater like yeah and then you went to chicago my walking in
the middle of that too yeah for a little family vacation like yeah dude it's been insane like
never partied this hard in my life but it's been fucking hey fun get one in when you
yeah that's what i'm saying man no it's it's i saw you were out there i was like god damn it's
just been like non-stop man yeah getting away with it too so what uh like of all the motorcycles in
the world like what pushed you into the chopper world man i knew i wanted a chopper since i was
fucking 10 years old for you know i mean i didn't get my first bike till i was 25 but like growing
up you know i was just like a little fucking skateboarder kid you know what i mean got into
punk rock eventually same story as everybody else but when i was a kid my best friend mason
davidson man never forget like his dad built choppers in the garage right i'll say and like
i'm 33 so like think of the era like this was like early 2000s it was like fat tire like discovery
channel type shit you know what i mean yeah at the time that's all the rage right yeah so he's
building this stuff in his garage like we're learning to kickflip in the driveway out front
share right yeah and uh it was just always so cool dude like every once in a while he built
something kind of like old school with like a springer front end and like just that that
stance that we all like you know what i mean and it was like fuck i'm gonna have one of those one
day like it's just the coolest fucking thing to a little kid who knew nothing about it but it just
you know i mean like you can look at that and say like that's fucking cool like that's it right
i watch a real today and i couldn't tell if this dude was being serious but it was some older dude
talking about real biker stuff and it was like what you need to do is have all your bikes pushed
out into the driveway this is real biker shit and then you just work on your buddy's bikes in the
garage you don't ever ride them but everybody's got like it raises a flag in the neighborhood
the subdivision or whatever that was my buddy's dad dude yeah every morning because he that was his
job like his wife went to work and had like the nine to five and the benefits and shit
he fucking walked in the garage in the morning sparked up a sig fucking rolled up the garage door
and pushed everything into the driveway all the ups guys all the fedex guys loved him you know
they're always dropping off parts and shit like back in those mail order catalogs stuff
yeah it's so you ever just stop and think about how gnarly that was that you would like order
something and then send a check or some shit like that by mail like how many people just got away
like just fraud just fraud and then the way they used to credit cards like where you slide across
that like imprinted into it yeah it's like how do you even know if like it you had enough on it
i can't imagine dude it's fuck i get scammed on today's technology i had to get a new debit card
the other day because some fucking punjabi motherfucker stole my shit like but motherfucker's
gonna find a way to steal your shit yeah it's a it's an ever-evolving uh career path for for people
what um yeah so like you're skating you're doing all that stuff you grew up in austin proper
we're round rock round rock yeah a little bit outside a little spot called brushy creek but
it's basically around same stuff yeah yeah the fucking austin's always had a huge bike culture
man uh it still does it seems like it's more club culture than it is very much so yeah you know
and like even like i really don't ride with anybody in austin and like i'm sure part of
that's on me like there's dudes out there like with choppers but it's like excuse me seems like
everybody kind of has like their own little friend group you know what i mean they stick to it
and i don't know i like getting out of town on my chopper yeah like i didn't build that thing to be
a bar hopper yeah you know what i mean like frankly i don't like riding it into austin
because as long and as stupid as it is like it's sketchy like i prefer like this past week and
fucking rip 250 miles up to decatur on back roads and party with the boys and then ride home like
that's the shit i like to do is it pretty good on the highway like man roads dude hands off 80 miles
an hour like it's straight as an arrow nice yeah yeah i'm still i'm still figuring mine out i've
i realized that uh i i'm just not riding my bike as fast as it will ride but i feel like the
vibration of it like i don't know what's appropriate amount of vibration okay i'm coming off rubber
mounted bikes right so when you get on the highway you're doing about 70 75 you're like okay i'm
feeling it in my hands yeah you know but it's like it still feels like good and like there's more on
more meat on the bone if you will to go faster um like that's why we say like when i'm riding two
bike night i'm like okay this this feels like it's pretty quick or i'm going a little too fast
on the way home after i've had a couple beers i'm like dude this feels good dude
probably hitting 90 miles an hour on this thing not even you know what i mean so
yeah i i wonder about that because it's like it's such a new experience for me
that like i just don't know what i don't know about it sure you know i don't know what it's
supposed to feel like or if this is that and so i'm learning all this shit over these last
couple of months of riding it how you all learn each other dude it's a 100 it's a very intimate
thing yeah it is man it really is an intimate thing yeah and i still i i haven't been able to
really articulate like the feeling of why it's so fun and it's like there's a whole culture
attached to it you know like the parties the people the events the vibe it's all that
but i mean i'm in love with just the way it feels to ride this thing oh yeah you know the the
sometimes she doesn't want to start thing and what okay i need to pay more attention it's
it's creating a much more intentionality in like the way i go about things it's like a
fucking relationship with a woman sometimes it's fucking great and it feels great and
everything's fucking awesome then some days it just is running you through the fucking ringer
and nothing can go right like yep yep there's a duality to it for sure but that's what makes
it fun you know i mean like you got to earn it so what was your first bike first bike was an
06 sportster nice i still got it how do you look on that thing oh like a circus bear i'm sure
can you just like rest your elbows on your knees yeah make it so it's like no it's forward
i got eights on it but yeah so that was so like i said i grew up um with my buddy's dad's building
choppers always knew i wanted one but then you know life goes on fucking got out of high school
went straight into the plumbing union right out of high school so started like working real
fucking hours like real early in life you know what i mean so was just grinding through that
doing my apprenticeship um was living with a girl at the time you know like first love bullshit
five-year relationship thought we're gonna do the white picket fence all that bullshit that went
out the fucking door so 25 years old right i got to get out of this situation i call my old man up
and i'm like hey dad like can i come sit with you for like two weeks like this just went down i just
need a spot to fucking chill out for a little bit till i find an apartment or whatever ended
up staying there for two years like and that's a whole different story but that was like a great
time for me and my dad but uh i was like all right it's time to get a fucking bike like yeah
this is the fucking moment so my buddy ian brown which if you're out there dude fucking miss you
hope you're doing good he was working at heritage and austin at the time over on the east side
you know i was on like marketplace looking for sports because i knew like sports or start there
you want to hardly get a fucking sports everybody told me that so you really didn't have any like
buddy bringing you into the fold it was just like you were doing it on your own yeah i just knew i
fucking wanted it and it was time and i needed something uh i just needed to start something new
you know yeah so i'm like on marketplace looking around and you know how it is there's always clapped
out fucking sports or projects everywhere and i was talking to ian about this one night at a show
or a bar or something he's like dude just come by the shop on tuesday like my buddy's got a fucking
bike he's wanting to sell like he doesn't want much for it just come by i was like cool so it
fucking came by bone stock fucking 06 sportster fucking 25 000 miles on it got for 2 500 bucks
dude those are rubber mounted right yeah last year they were carbureted rubber mount nice yeah
so but it was fucking hell of a deal i wasn't gonna pass it up there was nothing wrong with it so
never ridden motorcycle before for real yeah so i handed him the fucking cash and he's like
unless you're it's fucking yours now if you want to ride it yeah so i get up there somehow didn't
stall it fucking whiskey throttled out of the parking lot went and ripped it around a little
bit you know i mean and i don't know if you remember the first time you rode a motorcycle but
yeah i whiskey throttled and wrecked oh well fortunately i didn't wreck but just like the
feeling of it's indescribable like if you felt it you know what it is but i was like this is
what i'm gonna do for like the foreseeable future yeah yeah and fucking rode it back got it in the
back of my truck and took it home and like i said i was living with my dad out in the country at the
time and uh that was just my routine like i'd get home from work and just go rip back roads like
teach myself how to ride yeah like never took i still don't have a motorcycle license like i
probably should but i just fucking hopped on that motherfucker every day and figured it out yeah
yeah and then slowly like i said fucking 06 sportster so i knew i was never gonna be able to
hardtail it but like started doing yeah all the shit kids do fucking six over slam the rear
delete the wiring all the years this this was 2017 17 yeah that was a good year um
yes right when all that giddy up shit was going on dude it was you know 17 and 19 it was it was
well 19 was kind of a fall off year but uh 17 and 18 those are only those are my first two years 17
and 18 but yeah uh just to fill in some context for my uh my whiskey throttle deal so like my
first bike that i bought was a Kawasaki zx6r okay and like i bought it didn't know how to ride so
the dude rode it to my house and then left it at my house and then you know whatever figured out
and so like i started playing around the parking lot and yeah i fucking caught a whiskey throttle and
just kind of spun out like so i dropped it more than i wrecked it but it fucking freaked me out
not to the point where i was like oh i'm not doing this but more like i was like creeping in a little
bit more like okay this dog snapped at me let me let it smell me a little more cautious but
it was i remember was it was february 14th uh it snowed the day before in dallas and
valentine's day valentine's day and at the time me and my high school buddies that still kicked
it with a lot on wednesdays we played in a bowling league okay and the ball i lived in arlington i'm
from this town called duncanville which is kind of close to here okay right 30 mile ride so the next
day on that bike i fucking like rode all the streets never got on the highway all the way to the
bowling alley okay because i wanted my friends to see a fuck like i'm the first one of all the
homies to get a bike right yeah and then um that night it was fucking like 30 degrees i have a helmet
with no visor on i don't have i have no gear i have like fucking leather gloves i'm like
froze your ass off froze my ass off but it was so like this is it this is the sickest feeling in
the world yeah and that feeling is what i've been telling people like like when i like the go the
purple bike or when i customize a bike or build one like that's what it feels like every time you
do a bike up and then finally ride it after you've been working on it that feeling is like
maybe that's the addiction part of it like you're chasing that high you know oh dude the first time
i rode that shovel head after seeing it on the lift in the garage for 22 and a half years like
you talk about a fucking feeling dude i was screaming at the fucking moon like yeah yeah
and then of course it broke like fucking two miles down there but that first two miles was
fucking epic dude so you did the sporser for how many years before you started oh god so i got
that sporser in 17 i probably bought that shovel head probably 2020 2021 yeah like i don't feel like
it was the height of covid it was probably coming out of covid but uh yeah you know it's just like
the natural progression like i knew that sporser wasn't gonna cut it forever and wanted like a real
fucking chopper so uh i found that shovel and it was like a running riding bike 74 shovel uh
up by like coppers cove picked it up for like 5200 bucks from some sketchy dude and uh i brought it
home fucking rode it around the neighborhood a few times just to you know make sure it runs
everything and then immediately tore the motor and trans out of it like really just like keep
me motivated you know what i mean yeah so you follow through with the yeah exactly i'm like
okay fucking motors pulled now it's on you but so uh did that and then just start piecing it together
you know ordered that paco frame which you know it takes some time for them to make that and send it
to you and then uh sourced a springer wheel you know what i mean like you just start fucking
shopping carting it all together yeah uh sent the motor out now that's something i'm glad i did i
sent the motor out to billy down there in new Orleans yeah like we're dan and all them send
their motors because like i don't like i i'm bmb or something yeah bmb racing and like i know
where like my capabilities end you know what i mean like i can fucking bend some metal i can weld
some shit but like i'm not doing motor work you know i mean i'm not gonna act like i can so i was
like i'll spend the money knowing i have a good fucking motor because like i just didn't want to
be that fucking guy riding in a group or something and then my shovel head breaks down i don't know
the fuck i'm doing yeah yeah 100 so yeah just threw a bunch of money at it and took some time and
then just piece it all together man so you said about two years to build it yeah probably two
two and a half yeah and yeah fucking process send it down to joey and san Antonio to get the paint job
on it so you you knew from the get that you wanted a long bike i knew i wanted a long bike yeah i still
haven't really i don't think i've ridden a long bike yet no so it's like uh like scott's bikes
chemical candy i know everybody calls them randy but whatever scott uh his bikes are always like i
love the the length and just the stance of them all but i'd every time i start to want to build
another bike i end up in the same kind of rabbit hole i'm always in yeah the same same stance and
everything yeah so i have like the there's a set of wheels on the table here i have another
shovel head and i have an evo so i have like some things to go to the next uh start working on the
next chopper like part of me really wants to do an evo chop next like that's kind of well i remember
watching your podcast and you were talking about when you're building a chopper you were gonna do a
big 20 evo and then all of a sudden you had this shovel head like what made you go towards the dude
it was the beaver bash is that what it was yeah dude seriously we're at beaver bash i'm on the gold
fx art shop right yep and did you go to like lunch with us that yeah i think you did right
where we went to lunch stuck in the rain and we got stuck in the rain yeah well we walked out of that
that uh that little cafe or whatever worst steak i've ever had in my life it wasn't the best food
uh my bike looked like a fucking easter egg in the grass yeah and i'm like man like i'm
i'm not saying that i'd want to be like everybody else but like it just stood out so much and then
every you know everybody that was having like i got to see a lot of really nice choppers that
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i actually was looking for an evo chop and there was one that was already kind of done
in tulsa that i made a deal with a dude and i'm ready to come get it and then he just kind of
backed out last minute i mean hindsight looking at it now it's like the dude had this fucking
hardtail evo chop ready to hit the road uh you know evo motor probably had a five speed from a
soft tail in it um for five grand and i'm like yeah dude i'll come i'll be there tomorrow he's like
all right cool and the next day just would answer his messages i'm like yeah he he wised up you
know yeah but i was so fucking horny to spend money on a bike right there i literally just
got on marketplace and the first thing i could find that was something that i wanted ended up being
an fl uh shovel head 77 out of uh waco okay so i ran down there and picked it up is it from james
was he no he didn't have it it was just some old guy from nebraska that moved down there and
in hindsight i shouldn't have bought that like the money i spent like that i i tell my buddies
now i wouldn't do that again like if i could buy the bike like like you said and ride it
because i thought i was going to ride it but the brakes didn't work it was the the it was it was a
lot of problems on this bike right so i shouldn't have bought it but you know because i did it's
kind of you're saying like i i just learned everything about it like i didn't i got to go
through the whole thing and you had to see it through yeah well it's funny i recorded it all
too man like i have i have all the footage to make a proper video on it but cool it's uh it's a
little it was there was this transition i went where i was filming everything all the youtube
stuff with like big cameras and i was trying to make it like all fucking professional yeah and
then i said fuck it i'm not doing that no more i'm just doing the gopro yeah just so i can make
sure i get shit done and so half of it's kind of shot artistically and the other half's like
all right guys i don't know what the fuck's going on right now but you know doing that so
figure out how to blend that together yeah well it's funny like i thought i was doing the smart
thing by like buying a running riding bike you know what i mean and like you think you're gonna
sell all the shit you don't fucking use and make your money back dude like i sold that
shit to cheek for like 300 fucking dollars you know what i mean like i didn't make shit but like
i kept the motor kept the transmission and kept the title you know what i mean like that was about
it so if anybody else wants to do it i tell him like dude fucking buy you a frame fucking buy you
a motor that's out by you know what i mean you like piece it together it might take more time but
like you know when you do fxr's i think it's better to start with an fxr that's running
okay because there's lots of little things that you're gonna need right but on the chopper thing
i agree that most of the shit you're gonna put on this bike is 80 percent of the lowbrow and
Paco and all these other brands so it's all aftermarket yeah like my
bike's hardly i call it a hardly davidson you know what i mean it's like the bottom end of the motor
and the transmission are the only things hardly on it but dude the only thing i have original from
that bike is the frame and the transmission like i my other my original shovel head motor is a
stroker motor that is i guess a good thing about it yeah but it's over at uh my buddy russell's who
does a lot of the motor builds for us and i'm like hey dude hold off on building that just
shelf it for now yeah because this one's this is a fully fresh plug and play motor
i'm gonna pick up for two grand oh and i can be on the road what's that one 80 inch or yeah it's
just a stock okay inch cool like i really want to travel on it so i didn't really want to hop
to a motor and all that type of shit you know yeah this fucking this next shovel head on
buildings in 93 inch so i'm curious to see the difference uh damn so the um yeah what was that
process like just doing the builds i mean who like walked me through that like so yeah that like
there's really no process to it at all like i just had to kind of get intentional about it like
how do you stay motivated for two years that feels like something i would lose motivation
yeah i don't know i mean kind of just like walking out every day and seeing it right there
and like i said i kind of had to make like a mental like shift i was like oh because i'm
kind of tight with money by nature like i just i'm i just am you know i mean i'm kind of cheap
and i was like look if you want to finish this like you can either drag this out for five years
fucking piece that together or you can just throw some serious fucking money at it and get it done
yeah and that's what i did just kind of had to get out of my comfort zone a little bit and like
eat some rice and beans a few weeks you know what i mean like just kind of kind of take some money
away from other places and put it towards this and i mean it was fun you know what i mean like
once you actually start seeing that weekly and monthly progress that's what keeps you going yeah
yeah and like my old man would come over and like he's not into bikes at all he just likes to hang
out and drink beer nice it's like the night i built that sissy bar i was like dad sit on this
fucking bike and i'm like sitting there you know trying to figure out how tall i'm gonna make it
and i keep going like taller and we've bent up that sissy bar in my garage
that night and fucking tacked it all together and yeah just shit like that man kind of i don't know
make a party out of it but just make a yeah make a weekend out of it you know what i mean it does
make it there is that connection to it right like now i think that was a freeing thing about doing
the chopper that i have is that i felt like i literally could just do like there was already
a lot of really well-written written plays sorry my words are fucking not here people have done
so much stuff that there is a lot out there you can just kind of like okay i dig that sissy bar and
that look and that thing and my bike is a hundred percent a lot of that like my influences if anything
so but man like you still even though you there's so many people i can point out as the influences
or their bike or this bike or whatever like it still feels unique once it's done oh hundred percent
yeah so especially when you're the ones who had your hands on it the whole time like yeah it doesn't
matter who you got the inspiration from like that's your fucking bike yeah i just like to give credit
yeah of course like you like nothing's original anymore dude like because i just did my sissy bar
of sea channel right yeah like i saw it was probably like ben jeff or one of those like
tough midwest guys you know what i mean yeah it was just like a short little someone put your hand
on them like dude that's fucking cool like we've all done the round stalker this way so i get snaps
every fucking time if you're riding yeah so i was like wanting something that i knew would have like
rigidity to it and that sea channel works fucking great nice so and it's just kind of a cool look
yeah it's different you know yeah yeah the the next chopper man like the 80s one like
i want to that's why i think i want to do an evo is i really want to feel like
originally i wanted this chopper to have this 80s vibe but it just like just tough guy yeah but
like when i think of the 80s man i just think of like purple rain which i don't even know if
that's the 80s movie it might be early 90s movie but you know like thunder cats and fucking you
a team and well it is purple so yeah well that's just my my my own shit but
i don't know me like i just i want yeah kind of tough guy still but like how like what how do i
embody the 80s this back when you walk up on it you're like man that's got a fucking vibe you know
so like i said that's the uh that's the theme i'm trying to like gather you know inspiration from
that era yeah to figure out what that looks like but yeah that's what i'm doing with my next one
too is this gonna be like the opposite of the white shovel i have right now it's gonna be real
high and tight tough guy fucking muscle bike style probably gonna be black like literally the opposite
of what i got now but that was what was weird about like haney's red panhead chopper yeah it's
like you know the pink one is iconic it's classic and it it really is it fits him in some kind of
weight and i don't i don't know how to describe it like i just see him on that time yeah it's like
the classic formula right for a 60s yeah but when i first met him at the we were at the
lone star thing okay he was on the red panhead yeah he just finished it yeah i'm i dig that that's
more i guess my taste if you will and he said i hate he hated that bike so i think the frame
that he's got now and the green bike is the old red one isn't it i'm not sure yeah i think it is
honestly you shot the red one didn't you so yeah i like the red one i was in the same boat as you
like i thought it was fucking tough he just said it didn't ride good for him so but i got his bars
that i need to get back to him so bad i might sit him with you that way you can give it to him
okay because uh he let me borrow his uh the red bar there's the bars from that bike when i was
trying to figure out what i was like tight little t bars yeah and uh they just been sitting on my shelf
and it's like out of sight out of mind okay yeah i'll probably in that nascar baby yeah um
yeah so like what's your time frame on this this next one like do you have you gave yourself one
or no i haven't and it's kind of like what i was talking about the white bike like i'm just gonna
have to get intentional about it because like i've just been piecing it together like jacob
hardtailed the frame for me and i tore the top end off and sent the cases to uh you know blake
then sent out and he does the polishing i had him polish the the cases lower end of the motor and
did the ratchet top trans polished all that up so so you're going dark but polished yeah yeah
yeah like pain's gonna be dark but everything else gonna be polished like yeah it's gonna be
fucking showy um but again like it's all just sitting on the fucking bench in the garage and
it's just like that's the other thing about having a chopper is you don't realize how much
fucking money it takes just to maintain the motherfucker like when you're actually riding
it and putting down real miles every year like fuck dude it's like 2000 dollars
a year just to keep the motherfucker on the road so trying to build another bike on top of that
what do you what like educate me on that like what are the things that you end up having to
it's nothing major thankfully for me like um but it's just i don't know fucking chains wear out
sprocket swear out like fucking oil changes all that shit like fucking seals on the transmission
where it's fucking down for a week putting that in i mean a shop could do it in 30 fucking minutes
you know i mean when you're doing your garage sometimes it takes a little longer just shit
like that like tires like tires yeah for sure i run spoke wheels you know what i mean so those
are always giving you fucking fun little issues that's why i didn't want to go with the spokes
i love the way it looks but i'm going mags on this next one yeah it's like man there's just like
there's no when you have mag wheels you just don't really think of your wheels as being a problem
other than tires you know what i mean well even the tires like you can actually plug those on
tubes are a motherfucker dude yeah stuff in a 21 inch tube and a spool wheel like it's not fun
is your do you have front brakes on on there on your your current shopper no you don't no
fuck what's that like on a long bike does that not even more gnarly i don't know man like i just
it never had it you know what i mean okay so you don't have nothing to compare it to yeah and like
when i was still riding that sports tour like i actually took the front brake off of it because
i was like i know i'm gonna build like a real fucking chopper one day i want to get used to
just this rear brake with the foot and i don't know maybe it's ignorance i don't fucking know
but it's never been a big deal for me how was it uh i've ever since you did the trip last year uh
the um the el diablo trip yeah i've you know i even said i was out there you know in san diego
said dude i want to do a podcast about you know because all the gnarly shit you went down but
when you were riding there like i want to ride mine in like san francisco so fucking bad oh really
like i can't imagine riding mine in san francisco i i don't know why i want to do that but like
there's just it's like no front brake jockey shift what's the hardest place to ride it yeah
that's kind of that's it you know yeah and the whole my style of the bike is kind of a frisco
style yo bay area so it's like well you don't need to ride it to the bay area yeah i love that
there's some old youtube video of max doing that out there and he's coming down some hill and just
locks up the rear brake and fucking gets all squirrely up to the stoplight it's fucking cool yeah it's uh
i don't know there's uh like i was telling you man like the this about a year now it's been
one bike build after another yeah like we've traveled we built the the brown fxr and as soon
as that was done it was the purple chopper and then it was like a two month break and then it was this
fxr i'm building now and it's like all i want to do is just good i need a real bike
trip you know i mean something solid like get out there and you want to do it on the chopper right
i really want to do the chopper you know just because that's like that's the new experience um
but even now like my next bike trip will end up being the uh roguelite to born free um i just i
couldn't get enough done on this i couldn't get the done that i could not get the fxr done in time
so that i could have time to ride the chopper to california yeah so the goal was actually to be
leaving now oh and i'm still probably three weeks yeah to finish this this fxr so you'll find
something else going back though sorry to backtrack but you're asking me about the no front break what
was uh jockey shift and foot clutch and like for you like learning that that was easier than i
thought it was gonna be isn't it yeah it's more of a mental game than anything yeah i think everything
about the whole chopper shit is mental because everybody they they don't hold back their opinions
about oh it's gonna hurt it's it's gonna be hard to ride it's it's all those things and and yes it
is harder to ride than a normal bike um so far the the hardtail aspect of it has not been an issue
to me at all it's like yo like i was prepared for this to be like some kind of really uh really
uncomfortable like oh my god i don't want to do this i think mine's more comfortable in my sports
year with suspension i i think you ride it differently yeah you're more aware of the road
i mean every once while you doze off and you you know it'll remind you hey dude you know
but no the uh jockey shift stuff wasn't hard um there's been a a time or two where like i'm
leaning over to talk to a buddy at a light and i get off balance in the balance that i need to
put my foot down on the left and i like had to stall it right yeah that's always a little sketchy
you know i hope it just stalls and doesn't just take off right a whiskey throttle or something
like that but or like when you're on a hill with your foot on breaking up the shift real quick
to like i've got to the point now like if i pull up to and it's crazy that like i'm talking about the
hills of san francisco to like pull up to a lighter stop sign bro just the leaving my driveway out of
the shop if there's a truck already at the top i won't even wait to go onto the hill part like i'll
just stay on the flat so they they go or if i'm like coming up to some part of
the alice where i know there's a little bit of a incline i'll just go to the front i'm gonna give
a shit they can honk at me whatever it's like yeah dude like you do you ride different yeah and
you know like i'm not i'll just go to the front like you know just filter to the front or you know
run the i'll run the light yeah i'll give a shit you know what i mean so it's like running a red
light ticket is not that much money you know what i mean yeah so i don't know i'll take it if i got
yeah hey man look i i couldn't stop the bike over there sorry you know dude i remember a few
years ago it's probably 24 me and stray went up to michigan for this run up there and which that
was sick all on its own but uh you know we rode up to the up camped out for a few days and then
rode back and on the way back he was on a sporser chop that blue one that everybody knows and uh
his fucking throwout bearing was going out so every time and we're like going through these
tiny little towns right so we're running up to a red light like he's just like pulling off into a
parking lot and just like spinning around in the fucking parking lot so he doesn't have to stop
wow because if he stopped you have to fucking push him to keep going damn so he was doing that
just fucking power shifting the whole way 250 miles back i damn yeah well we're just at the up at
this tiny little town called strongs michigan like on the north side of the up like the north
shore the south shore the it's uh so you cross the bridge right um and it's probably
40 50 miles in just straight up from there okay it's just like a little bar has a few
motel rooms like a snowmobile bar in the winter you know what i mean yeah and uh that dude Reese
up there and all his buddies they just take it over for a fucking week and party and camp out up
there it was fun dude it was cool that was my first time like i've ridden in packs before
but that was the first time like being in a pack of probably like i don't know 60 70 dudes
and like the light changes like halfway through the pack and you just blow the whole fucking
red light with like 70 fucking dudes through these tiny little towns and they're like what the fuck
was that and just i don't know it's a an amazing feeling it's a powerful
fucking feeling i was supposed to say it's a powerful like nobody can fuck with us right now
yeah um was that your first big trip on the bike no um wait so you did on the sportier on the
no that was on shovelhead okay we trailered up there like we trailered to grand rapids and then
rode up from there but uh god what was my first big trip on that shovelhead i don't know i've done
what was your first big trip on a bike in general like that you would consider to be big first big
trip when i got that sportster first big trip i rode to cookville tennessee which is like two
hours east of nashville so that was a good little pool like went to a music festival out there
rode like three days there partied at the festival for three days rode three days back so that was
the first like extended fucking on the road multi-state trail i did and then i took that
sportster to big bend took it back to tennessee did hit all the events in texas like rode it to
yellow rose a few times we're at the dentin burnouts a few times um and then yeah then i got that
shovelhead and it's just i don't know it hasn't hindered me at all like i actually had some buddies
it was kind of like throwing shade you know i mean like oh you got a fucking chopper shovelhead
now you're gonna start trailering it and it's like no dude i try to ride that motherfucker as much as i
can like yeah like don't get me wrong there's times you do have to trailer just for like time
constraints and stuff but i try to be intentional about riding it to as much as i can and just
like going out of state and having like true fucking trips on it too so but i don't know like
we ran rapids up to the up is a good run though that yeah it was like 250 300 miles up there one
way and then back yeah but like fuck edr that was 4 000 miles round trip i was gone for two
fucking weeks like that was awesome dude that yeah that trip looks sick just watching your stories
dude everybody was living vicariously through 100% you know that was that your first i mean
it wasn't your first solo trip though right like you know pretty much all my trips have been solo
for real yeah what was your route dude because on your edr trip last year uh like run me through
that like what was the route plan okay so i left i won't even tell you what day
it was but i left after work one day in austin made it to san angelo camped out in san angelo
state park next day rode up to amarillo stayed at my buddy cruises house and he was going to edr
as well but him and his girl they were just gonna shoot i-40 straight over to vegas they're gonna
and then our plan was to meet at the border we're gonna cross the border together to go down to edr
right yeah so stayed at his house that next day in amarillo from there i went to where did i make
it i made it to touse so i cut up through the panhandle went through some uh was like springer
and something else and that was like the first day i was like out there you know what i mean
that's like when it hit me you ever been on a trip and like hits you like i'm fucking out here
like yeah like i'm far from fucking home yeah that and like when especially when you go west and
so desolate that's what it was dude and you're like man like i feel like yeah i like i'm responsible
for myself yeah literally yeah like i'm just like going it's like these rolling grassy hills but it's
like super foggy and dense in the morning and like not another soul out there and i'm like
fuck like this is only you big dog like fucking so made it to touse that day uh checked out like
denise hopper's grave out there and the i forget what river that is but there's that big bridge
out there that's a real yeah real grand yeah um stayed out there and then the next day was probably
the best day of the trip man i went well one of the best days of the trip i went from touse
cut through i couldn't name you all the small towns but basically from touse to derango did
you go to like pagosa springs yes yeah i went cut up at that route is sick yeah especially when
you leave touse there's a there's like two or three ways but yeah it's it's beautiful it drops
into like some valley grassland type stuff and then getting up to uh pagosa springs you kind of
climb into some like trees dude it's beautiful oh yeah it's so sick and then i didn't stop at
derango like i kept going did the whole million dollar that highway that day into uray yeah and
then kept going to moab so i went from touse to moab and one fucking day through all that shit
and that was fucking amazing dude like probably i mean don't quote me that's probably 400 500 miles
yeah did that day uh camped right on the colorado river outside of moab um just by myself there's
nobody fucking out there dude fucking just tank camping uh you just pull over in camp did you
like no it was like an actual campsite but it was like i don't know like a tuesday or something
yeah like there was like one fucking dude over here but i basically had the whole spot to myself
i've only done one bite trip where i cancel myself and that kind of freaked me out really
yeah um did you grow up camping at all no right the first time i ever camped was nitty gritty
oh really not nitty gritty uh uh fuck uh
giddy up sorry oh okay i mean i might have camped as a kid but i don't remember it you
gotta be honest i grew up my my stepdad was into this world and so like i remember growing up and
being in bands a lot okay like camping that way at like a field party or whatever the fuck the lake
yeah but never like in a tent okay you know what i'm saying yeah see like my parents were big into
that dude especially my dad like i remember when me and my sister like we were probably
in elementary school you know we go see with my dad for the summer you know what i mean
he'd just throw us in a canoe and we'd go down to colorado for like three days sleep on sand bars
that's so sick yeah and i tell people i've heard about store like like someone's telling me that
they do them the real grand like you can do tours down the whole river yeah like that sounds badass
well like to us it was just normal you know i mean like we're just fucking hanging out with
our dad fucking fishing during the day and camping at night like i tell other people that and like you
did what when you were fucking seven years old that sounds badass though yeah so it's that's kind
of always been ingrained in me is just like the the roughen roughen it side of it you know what i
mean so it doesn't bother me yeah like when i travel i throw uh i have like a little one-man
tent i try to sleep in a hammock if i can like if there's trees and it's not raining or nothing
but i have a tent if i need it but uh just like bare bones shit yeah like and don't get me wrong
on that trip that 14 a trip i stayed in hotels probably 56 nights out of it but majority
of it was camping yeah but uh you have a desert it's hard to find trees yeah exactly yeah i was
trying to think where was i in that story uh you're at moab camping on moab yeah camp on the
river oh yeah this is the part you've been waiting to hear about yeah um so the next day i leave moab
and it's i don't know probably seven in the morning like it's fucking brisk outside hitting the road
feeling good this is where i hit the cow fucking spoiler alert um and i say cow it was a calf but
it was a fucking solid slab of beef dude it's motherfucker dude you tried to take you out dog
dude it is and it's not a cool story at all like everybody everybody asks me about it but it's like
it was a complete lapse of judgment on my part right so for anybody who doesn't know i hit a
fucking cow um but yeah dude it's just like it's open range out there you know i mean there's no
fucking fences you're going over cattle guards and shit the cows can just fucking wander and uh
did you like come over a hill no not even i can't even get myself like i saw the motherfucker right
but so what it is is like these cows are hanging out on the side of the road right yeah and like
there's a group of them there and i'm like oh shit okay i slow down fucking go right through them no
problem they're just like barely look at you so i'm like cool i do that like three times there's
like three different groups of cows and i've made it yeah and then you know there's this fourth group
of cows and i'm fucking just kind of being arrogant getting cocky now thinking i don't need to slow
down as much yeah and there's this little baby fucking calf behind his mama i didn't see and i
guess he got spooked and he just bolted right out front of me yeah and it was one of those things
you know i'm going like this and he's going like fuck we're gonna hit
we're gonna hit boom damn caught him right between the front and rear legs fucking springer straight
to the gut and just killed it no motherfucker walked off dude fuck yeah like he was laid up for a little
bit like i fucking tucked and rolled did whatever i'm sure it looked fucking stupid but the how did
you go down like how was the uh i hit it low side like i hit him dead on went down this way and did
some sort of roll because i landed like in a run you know what i mean like on my feet and uh how
fast were you think you were going like 30 40 probably 40 okay like i was at like the top of
third gear okay not that fast um but fast enough to fuck some shit up and uh kind of looked back
the fucking calves pinned under the bike fucking making noises and shit you know i mean i instantly
think my foot's broken because i feel it and i'm like hobbling over there fucking pick the bike up
cow kind of fucking scurries off but it's still laid up on its side like puke and blood and shit
i lay in the bar dish to like catch my fucking breath and like the sweetest fucking old lady pulls
up she's like oh my god i saw all of that shit like what the fuck she's like what do you need and i
was like i have no fucking idea i have no fucking idea what i need but i just need to like lay here
for like just two minutes like just give me two fucking minutes to like click my fucking thoughts
and uh did and she is like i like whatever you need and i was like okay i gotta get this
fucking bike off the road at this point the cow had ran off like it kind of got on its feet its mom
was over there fucking being pissed so it trotted off and uh the lady i was like i need to get a
u-haul moab doesn't have a fucking u-haul rental spot somehow so this fucking sweet ass lady drove
me like 70 miles to grand junction colorado i got a fucking u-haul and they wouldn't sell or sell me
they wouldn't rent me a pickup truck with like a trailer i had to buy like a fucking box truck
yeah with a trailer behind it drive that back by myself fucking try to load the bike up thankfully
another dude stopped and was like hey you want help loading this i was like yeah i want fucking help
loading this up like look at this situation and uh so got the bike loaded up on this trailer and uh
in between all that you know i'd called my girlfriend at the time like i'd called like my
sister and i was like hey here's the situation like i fucked up but i'm gonna try to fix this
and finish the trip and they're all like i'm like look i'll go to the fucking hospital i'll get it
checked out if it's not broken i'm gonna keep fucking going yeah so go to the hospital and moab
they x-ray it they're like it's not fucking broken like it's a bad fucking deep tissue sprain like
it's gonna fucking suck but nothing's broken so i was like all right game on yeah we're finishing
the fucking trip so uh in between all of that like all that driving i was doing i called my boy
cruise who i stayed with in amarillo because i knew he knew this dude who i'd met once before at
oklahomie is this dude jared from durango okay and i was like hey dude like send me jared's number
send me jared's number i called jared i said look dude here's the situation i need a front end
because it just fucking folded my springer like wasn't gonna be able to run that front end and
i need a clutch hub because it went down those sides like all the fingers i had a five finger
clutch hub like three of them got snapped off like clutch up was fucked yeah i was like i
need that i need an extended front end and he's like he's like going through this well i think i
got this i think he's like no fuck just get here and we'll fucking figure it out right yeah so i drive
three hours back to durango with the u-haul and all that shit after getting my foot x-rayed
and go to his brother's house actually his name is willy solid fucking dude it's not like an old
bike shop on the main road down there there is yeah we ended up going to that to get the clutch
hub yeah but like fucking willy jack and jared dude like most solid fucking salt of the earth
people do like so fucking cool they have like a party for that uh what's that rally they do out
there four corners they have like a chopper party as part of that solid fucking dudes man
so i pull up in the u-haul and all this shit dude's just getting off work pulling up there's like
fucking it's just a chopper house you know what i mean you pull up the garage is here there's a lean
to over here with like 15 fucking bikes under it yeah dudes like all right let's fix your fucking
bike dude so ended up they pulled a girder off some other bike it was like a 12 over girder
probably which i was running a 16 over springer so it dropped it a little bit but was still very
rideable yeah um and then we ran into town to that shop is some old head had a bunch of four
speed stuff nice and just new old stock three finger clutch hub all the little pieces of
hardware and snap rings i needed to so went back to the house fixed the bike that night
fucking his wife cooked us dinner i got to sleep in their toy hauler like like the most
accommodating fucking yeah but it like those type of experiences right like how sick is that like
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wanting to but like dude they went above me on and like they were so stoked dude because they'd
done edr before they're like dude we're gonna fucking get you there and it's gonna be so sick
when you pull up the same fleet pay and all this shit and uh but yeah dude he sold me that
girder it was like old like pmp girder which if you know anything about girders that's kind of
like the one to go after apparently i don't know but uh dude sold to me for like 200 bucks because
he was just so stoked on what i was doing and they're like i wasn't giving up you know what i mean
yeah so fucking next day pulled out of there and overall how long were you down just that night
just that night yeah so when you hit the so okay so you wrecked old lady took you 70 miles to
durango or to uh grand junction you rent the u-haul you go get that that night you're in
durango fix on my yeah fuck dude yeah it's a productive ass day dude i was covering some ground
dude and uh yeah the next day fucking fired up the bike and fucking kept going and uh originally
my plan like before i hit the stupid fucking cow was to catch i-70 for a little bit and then come
down and do like brice canyon and zion and all that yeah but having to backtrack to durango
and like keep my schedule to be at the border on time i went through uh i left durango and then
cut down to like monument valley and all that yeah and then went through like the entire navajo
nation so badass yeah it was man i didn't get to do that moky dugway do you know what that is yeah
i've driven it i haven't ridden it yet okay but i i pre i mean that that's monument valley that's like
my there's two there's two things i i there's two places i always want to see a picture of my
bike i built it's that place and with the sturgis sign in the background yeah those are the two
things like if i ever build a bike or cus or anything i want to be able to say i wrote it to
the two most favorite places i love being on most absolutely you know that's fucking awesome dude
there's a hotel uh and my listeners are probably pissed when you bring it up again but it's called
the San Juan Inn okay so when you're in mexican hat right when you're coming out of mexican hat
you're going to uh you know monument valley area it's like another 20 miles still right when you
are about to cross the river there's a there's a like motel hotel right on the it's in a cliff
and then the river and it's right in this right on that bridge right there yeah i know what you're
talking about dude i i stayed there with my boys that we we traveled together we we polished off
a bottle of whiskey they have like this patio on the second floor the stars like you're seeing
galaxies dude it looks like star trek out there and shit and there's it's it's so weird being in
desert places like that and i think i love it i think i was talking about recently on the podcast
with dan or with uh somebody recently i was like i think that the sand like deadens the sound
yeah yeah oh you're talking about the sand dunes yeah like i i just feel like desert places like it
it does something different with sound and it makes you feel like you're in a different place
there's just an energy out there in general it is an energy yeah yeah not to get all fucking
woo but like it is yeah i mean it's undeniable like you ride through that area you're just seeing
those those uh you know fingers where they call monuments coming out god damn this is bad maybe
it's forest gump conditioning you know or all the different movies over my entire childhood that
those were in the background yeah but riding your bike through it in that road it's it's crazy that one
of my most favorite places to ride in the world is a straight road mm-hmm yeah we can see 100 miles
yeah it's like why is this so sick you know it's crazy it's like obviously i didn't know it at the
time but i like pieces together afterwards is like when i was in monument valley that day i was leaving
was like the day all those dudes were coming in to do that 50 weight video about their monument
yeah like they were out there literally at the same time as me i like probably passed them i don't
know but wow like got home and saw that video i was like fuck that was yeah that's sick but uh
there's like what was your what was this next day or go ahead i'm sorry no i was gonna ask you
i think there's like a a gas station out there too right that was an easy rider like they stopped
out an easy rider and i think it's somewhere out in monument valley i don't man i i've never
stopped i know that in mexican hat there's a gas station and then the kin can yet there or
wherever the town is i would say kinota or something like that that's the next gas station
it's like 45 miles so again sorry listeners but we i left derango on that bike and we stopped in
mexican hat and i realized that my axle nut was off the real action on the rear it came off
and then i found out that it came off two gas stops before that because i took a picture
of it at a gas station i zoomed in i saw it was gone so at the mexican hat gas station i duct taped
both sides of the axle into the swing arm and then rode there because we camped at monument valley
that night and then rode it another it's like a total of like 60 miles or 45 miles between
mexican hat in that town get to the town they have a ace hardware and i was able to find the
right nut and literally that was the same nut i had on that bike until i sold everything you know
so yeah riding fucking over a hundred plus miles with no axle
god damn you have someone looking out for you yeah it's like when you ride a chopper though
like i noticed that if anything comes loose it you feel it oh yeah because you're like
because it's rigid in all these ways and the motors like mounted to the frame like hard mounted
the the something comes loose it it feels off it like tells you and so it's like
or it's like a problem immediately yeah super yeah like i remember i was riding my shovel head it
was the last burnouts i'd ridden up there and i was just coming into dent and i was on a 380
coming into town and i just hear you know like when you're rolling like under speed and you hear
a metal on metal sound and you know something just fucked up bad so what it was is that the uh
the bracket that connected the brake caliper mount to the frame that bolt had backed out
so the whole caliper bracket just swung forward and ripped the brake line out
ooh yeah so i'm like i'm like hauling ass trying to run a yellow light i hear this noise i'm like
what the fuck have no brake so i'm like thankfully i just ran a light basically so there's nobody in
front of me yeah or behind me and uh was able to coast over to the side but uh that was a bad one
and then the shifter you know the shifter on the ratchet top it has those three little
countersunk screws that go in it those were notorious at least for me for backing out and
i'd like reach out my shifters just hanging on by one fucking screw and i can't do anything with it
so both of those are safety wired now like i put buttonhead screws in them drilled fucking holes
through it and safety wired it so they can't ever back out yeah so it's shit like that like you
asked like the shit you learn like fucking rattling loose or breaking it's like it's trial by fire
i've heard i've heard people talk about the uh the ratchet top uh you know shift lever that thing
coming loose so kory from main drive built my transmission and he's i didn't realize this but
his whole brand is called main drive it's about he used to or he still does like he would build
these transmissions and try to make them leak proof with all these different uh seals and
tricks that they would do and okay so he did it all to mine and i don't know if it worked or not
because they're still i don't i don't think it's transmission fluid i think my motor seeps a little
a lot of the uh one of the seals but um yeah so i haven't had that problem but i i do have
like a ritual whenever i'm about to go ride it like i kind of just check everything i just
visual a couple little okay this comes loose it has come loose before just give it a quick twist
and you know i always keep a little bit of tools on the bike with me so yeah i get bad about it
honestly i just fucking throw a leg over the motherfucker and go i i mean i i definitely do
that from time to time but i try to be mindful whenever it's hey it's not good that i do that
i should look at more shit yeah i don't know i just so you uh so you left derango you mobped
through oh yeah yeah left derango did monument valley that all day made it to um uh why am i
blinking on it arizona way up in the mountains uh oh flagstaff flagstaff made the flagstaff right
and uh mind you this was late march so it was snowing in flagstaff like i didn't realize
flagstaff's like the same elevation as dember like it's fucking up there late april yeah no
i think last year it was in uh whatever it doesn't matter but it was fucking cold yeah
so got a hotel that night in flagstaff next day did uh 89a down to like sedona
that fucking oakree canyon dude that was fucking amazing that was so fucking cool
did that in a sedona went up into uh you know gerome gerome is that the mining town up in the
mountain with like all the switchbacks it had to have been gerome the reason a lot of us know
gerome feels like a town in like the swiss alps or italy or something yeah yeah it's like
tucked on the side of the mountain up high yep but like if you're a tool fan that's where the lead
singer from tools has his uh like vineyard winery type thing and then he also has like this gnarly
record store who's at a maynard maynard yeah no shit so we went we stopped in there one day on
on the way to born free okay to check it all out it's pretty sick i blew right through there
that road coming out of there sick oh yeah like continuing south yeah because i did that to uh
prescott i think and then uh did you stay in prescott no i kept going i made it through uh
i went all the way to brawley like i went through like glamis like crossing to california oh
shit yeah we're all south of itin and did the whole glamis sand dunes route right there and
then got into brawley and stayed there that night yeah and then that's the day the next day
me that's a good run that day yeah did i was putting down miles like i had lost time to make
up i mean it's a good run but it's also like like 89 a is like switchbacks all the way down
and then a couple straight spots but then like you climb up the mountain then climb back down
then you get up to prescott it's like it's all it's not like mobbing down 40 yeah it's gorgeous
and then seeing those sand dunes i was not like i didn't know that was in glamis i was just like oh
this is gonna get me closer to the border cutting down this way and then all of a sudden you're in
these fucking sand dunes yeah dude it's another place that i i i love being man like i've always
wanted to like camp there in glamis just get out but i mean i don't want to ride my bike out
that far so like i don't it feels weird if you're camping close to the road you know you like off
road shit to get like off the road i feel bro that place it every like the last we went on the way
home we came through there on the way back from california last year um and it's crazy to have
pictures of it like the sand had blown over so high that the street signs on the little turnout
the lookout spot yeah were buried it's like a snow bank boat yeah exactly i was like that's
fucking wild because i always stop through there when i'm around and i take pictures there and
shit and it's like that's fucking wild it's fucking six feet in the air you know what i'm saying so
it looks cool dude maybe you want to get one of those fucking dunebuggies but uh yeah i got into
brawley that night stayed at a hotel that night and uh the next day cruise and his girl met back
up with me and that's when we crossed the border just jammed all the way to mexico right there
mexico yeah yeah that's the one straight shot down right yeah mexican highway five all the way down
to san felipe was it like they said where there's uh like a hundred plus miles of no gas station
right there in that stretch yep yeah so i had a huge can on the back here so i had 21 gallon
roto packs right so i had two gallons of gas with me at all times like from the start of the trip
and that was the first time i actually needed it was going in there there's this tiny little town
it's not even a town it's just a it's a gas stop with no gas right it's just like a little fucking
store it's called la ventana and it's like a hundred miles in from the border so we stopped there
and that's where i like dumped my reserves into the tank we had like a ticate or whatever yeah
and then from there is probably another 80 miles into san felipe so it's a straight shot
the whole way what's the terrain like right there is it kind of the same as it was in cali
like deserty kind of dry most of it is definitely dry most of its deserty right at that like gas
stop la ventana there's like this weird little like like i won't call mountains but like it
gets rocky you know what i mean like some hills you can't see around and stuff yeah and then you
come out of that it's just like mirage again like the desert so flat you know what i mean you're
just like seeing the yeah but uh the main thing is the fucking potholes dude it's bad when i say
potholes i mean like fucking rim benders dude like it's like some speed racer shit you're
fucking dodging it the whole time which was kind of fun but it's like if you're not on your shit
like yeah you can take your bike out oh easily yeah and then like the people in cars like they're
just like passing you on the fucking shoulder and shit like but it was cool like getting in
san felipe was sick we had no issues down there whatsoever like how was it crossing the border
crossing into mexico fucking easy dude yeah like we stopped and went into like the little
station whatever because you're supposed to get the little like temporary seven-day visa
or whatever for your bike or whatever we did that never once got asked for it but yeah
why not do it right how much did it cost through all the paperwork process to do
just all that you know because you have to get like insurance and shit for
i got insurance beforehand but i i just did that online i think it was like
40 or 60 bucks like it wasn't bad you just type in your ven number and your fucking license plate
and then you just pay him yeah and you print out a little piece of paper at the border i don't think
we paid yeah we didn't pay anything because if you're in the country for less than seven days
it's free okay you just get a little piece of paper saying you checked in with them or something
i guess yeah but they didn't even ask for it like we went got it and then start up our bikes and
rode right fucking in fucking jam through mexico trying to get out of town as quick as possible
yeah and then yeah a few like military checkpoints like police checkpoints and i will say like
if you're gonna do it i don't know if you're planning on doing it this year for the last one
but if you ever plan to go like go with somebody who speaks spanish yeah because it makes it so
much fucking easier true yeah oh and cruz he was like i speak a little bit of spanish mother
fucker was fluent in spanish as far as i'm concerned like because i can't speak a lick of it yeah and
we're at these military checkpoints and shit like they're not being aggressive or anything but they're
just like where are you going what are you doing blah blah they probably get frustrated when they
can't communicate i was gonna say dude if they were trying to talk to me like it probably would
have turned into a situation but he was just like oh yeah we're going to fucking sandflip a vacation
no big deal and they're like all right cool fucking keep going keep it going yeah what was uh
once you changed that front end out like how did the bike ride after that like better better
dude i've never been a fan of girders but god damn they do ride good like because i don't know
you've probably never ridden a springer but especially on like a long one like mine like
it starts getting that speed wobble like in the corners and stuff girders are straight as a
fucking arrow dude for real yeah like it rode fucking amazing it just wasn't the look i was
going for and it was too short to begin with so yeah i sold it as soon as i got back home but
no it rode great it's like better like the i want clunky thing back yeah
sketchy you are the cooler it looks agreed um yeah so what was the you know like the
guys from builtwell had told me that like you know the whole area it kind of like it's not really a
it's like the town itself is putting on the event now it's not so much that it's a built
well event like they remove themselves from it it's still going on very would you say that
absolutely yeah like we went to uh i think it's called kikis like the place of all the pilappas
and stuff and like if you ever saw like the lowbrow videos and shit that's where all the
chopper dudes were partying but like that was like the only place builtwell was hanging out
and the whole town like you said it's basically mexican bike week over there yeah like all these
clubs from like mainland mexico were there some from bahá like it but it's very much their event
now yeah like the chopper dudes are just like this little offshoot of it at this point you know what
i mean yeah so but it was still fun like we hung out there we had the little ploppa thing
and we're camped out in hammocks and tents and we'd ride over to the little boardwalk
where all the shit was going on the bike show and the awards and whatnot and it was cool dude
like i was sitting there like the scariest looking mexican biker dudes you know what i mean yeah
like we can't understand a word each other's fucking saying but like we're pointing out
each other's bikes yeah and we're communicating through that you know what i mean like i'm like
dude this is fucking cool and like he's looking at my back and he's like this is fucking you know
what i mean like there's that common language there so that was really cool that even though we
couldn't communicate we were still communicating and i've done a lot of you know growing up as a
custom painter i've done a lot of low rider stuff in my early days yeah and i'd work in these shops
where the painters in the shop itself was like very straight across the border kind of whatever you
know and i don't know this makes me racist or whatnot but like i've always when they
can't speak english good i like make my english sound like shit yeah but it works but i feel like
it's like all right i'm gonna like say this word very dumb or very uh not correct or whatever
your r's a little more yeah it's like this is not i'm not supposed to do that i don't think so
but i was i never understood that it was like why why are you talking like this yeah like you're
the fucking idiot but no so that was cool i tell you the coolest probably the coolest experience
out of the whole thing like don't get me wrong partying down there with your boys like it was
fucking awesome but uh i stayed like the last day sunday because the built world guys all go to the
orphanage there like just outside town that was a fucking powerful experience like that was cool
dude like we all rolled up there and that was mainly like the chopper crowd right yeah fucking rolled
up with them as to this orphanage fuck dude there's probably like 40 50 kids there and uh you know at
first like it's kind it's kind of like a weird not weird but it's just like fuck man this is like
kind of sad and they're like doing like little dances for us and stuff and like kind of like
trying to put on a show you know what i mean yeah and then so that kind of like warmed everybody up
and then we're like well fuck let's go up front like give you all some rides and like i was leaving
from there so i had my bike packed up my foot was still fucked so i didn't give any kids rides but
like a lot of the kids or a lot of the guys were still kids on the back of their bikes and taking
them for a rip up and down the road and that was so fucking cool dude like see these kids coming back
with smiles on their faces like just got to rip a fucking chopper like you know what i mean like
i don't like i can see that being pretty heavy though it was dude yeah it was but like in the
moment it was fucking like a beautiful experience but then you think about the grand scheme of things
just like fuck dude that was probably like the coolest thing of this kid like hopefully they
fucking get out of there and have a better fucking life but for that day it was fucking amazing
yeah amazing experience yeah i man i was i was said like this you know because uh my
10 year anniversary is literally on the weekend that built world things going on and she gave me
a pass that you can do it and then like i said i just got behind on this bike and i couldn't
you know take off on that but all right man after talking with you and then my buddy Chris Zimlo
just did mexico solo all the way down to another rally that's more mainland okay and then did the
whole ferry across to the Baja and i want to do that i want to do that too i'm like dude let's
go and dan in them did exactly onto the pause exactly like that's the shit i want to do and i
think that you know like after a talk with everybody that's done the mexico thing i'm not as
like uh i'm not as nervous about it i feel i feel like i manifest the shit like
like the nervousness like the situation yeah it's like a bad situation like i'd bring it to
light by being awkward or whatever the fuck you know like like overthinking it yeah and you know
like i was telling dan when he was on the podcast the day it's like dude like you just
like i don't i don't want to say ignorance but it's just like you just flow into everything yeah
without like this any kind of like maybe he does maybe doesn't but it seems like he just
doesn't overthink doesn't think about it much just kind of does it yeah and because it's like
you know as a skateboard reference it's like when you're like hey man how do you do the
four stair and like the first time you do this and then bam i do it like how the fuck did i pull
it off but then you go back and start trying to like do it do it it's like now you're overthinking
it now you can't do it you know what just i don't know and the way fucking dan looks like i feel like
intimidating in any culture where he is like people aren't going to fuck with him but no and
speaking fuck about intimidating experiences so i said coming into mexico is easy it's getting back
into the states that was fucking scary for real oh yeah dude dealing with the like the american side
of it yes dude trying to come back into your own country yeah it was fucking wild and like so i left
the orphanage right and i leave and instead of going highway five back to mexicali i was like
oh i'm gonna be smart i'm gonna cut over and get more across in arizona okay so i do that i cut off
five and i'm cutting over into i think it's sonora is like the next mexican state outside of bahá
is there any like checkpoints to go in from one state to another mexico no so it's kind of like
it is here yeah yeah very much so yeah but it hit me when i did that i was like oh fuck if i break down
now nobody's gonna be coming this way yeah like i'm out on my fucking own and this is going
through like little villages with like dirt roads and shit which thankfully nothing fucking i didn't
break down or nothing i made it to the border but i just split lanes to the fucking front right because
i was like oh that's what you do i had accidentally gotten in like some sort of like fast pass special
entry more than a normal passport like you apparently you can pay extra and get a fast pass
or something i don't fucking know i didn't have it in the guy was fucking pissed he was like you're
in the wrong fucking line you idiot like you need to be over there i could give you this
fucking fine blah like he's having like moves a little barrier so i can come over my fucking bike
stalls so i'm sitting here trying to kick this fucking bike over this border patrol agencies
agent dude screaming at me like get this piece of shit the fuck out of my lane like i'm about to
fucking arrest your ass bike finally fucking starts and i skirt over to the right lane they let
me through he's walking my bike like does circles around my bike for like five fucking minutes i'm
just sweating it he's like all right welcome to america i'm like passported my teeth see a
fucking go dude like getting me the fuck out of here made it to the gas station in town i was like
made it back to my own country they let me back in they let me back in but i was fucking sweating it
so where'd you come into like Tucson area uh no or is it more like yuma it was yuma yeah it's like
san louis colorado it's like the the mexican town it's like a net right here it's pretty close
but yeah yuma is where i ultimately went to like get gas and yeah but like
stray was telling me fuck when they went because you know they do it every other year yeah when he
went he fucking when they were coming and not to put stray shit out there but he was rolling a
again stray has that danger dana energy yeah i feel like stray can like just walk in and out of
situations and no one's gonna really fuck with them that too but it's also you gotta think the
administrations like they were different thing this was fucking trump dude and he was cracking down
on that shit because when i crossed there all the way to el paso i saw border patrol probably every
20 miles yeah they were out there heavy dude yeah really i haven't i haven't ridden 10 no i wrote
10 on the way home last year for sure but um i i'm done taking people's advice when they just
say oh man you don't need a passport to go over there and do this passport like every time i've
ever like just tried to go off someone else's fucking uh advice it never works yeah that was
like a one off for them and they think it's fucking the rule the way it works yeah it's like no dude
like i'm gonna go in there and ask if i can do that and they're like no dude you gotta have a
yeah so we we got our passports last year to go on that diablo run like i was you know you were
like yeah dude i'll see you down in there i'll tell you the whole story i'm like sick and then
like man we were just having such a good time in san diego like uh one of my closest friends
taylor his dog just died like recently or at that no at that trip so we were together um we did this
palm springs little run together i don't know there's a youtube video i did on that where we
like stayed a second oh yeah yeah i did see that yeah so we had did that and then i went into la
to do podcasts for a couple days and then we were coming back down to san diego to link up and i
want to say in that time frame he had to put his dog down that he had throughout his military career
you know what i got to yeah it's heavy and he just and he was like man i'd like i could tell
that he really wanted to be around some of his homies and i just felt like man like everybody
got here we're all like we're ready to go to in the mexico and i talked to my buddy devin that was
kind of with me here he linked up with me and i was like dude i feel like we should just go get
like a cabin in the woods here yeah and just kick it with taylor yeah and he's like and that's what
we did yeah because one of us didn't get our passport okay so he was gonna be like the weak
lane he was not gonna go anyway i was like man let's just keep all this together we're all here
we're in like a sick part of the like we were right by like joe's hideout we we rented a cabin
above their like biker bar and uh which sick riding all over there it's like between julian
and some other stuff okay um it was it was a good time yeah if y'all had a great time dude
fuck it like campfires lots of beer drunk each night good time you know it's it's fucking sick
man oh and like trips i mean i guess mine was a little different because like i was like dead
set on getting to mexico but like in y'all situation like when you have that leeway to
like call it and still make it a good trip you know what i mean like there's no loss there
you know what i mean i i think i was a little scared too yeah like because i did have all this
camera gear laptop but i had probably $15,000 worth of camera gear in my backpack yeah so
there's a part of me it's like man i just yeah i don't want to get pulled over i'm gonna flash
his bike yeah i don't want to get hassled for this shit i don't really have a lot of money to
bribe pay off bribes and shit like that so i think i once again got in my head and just like
oh hey guys this is pretty sick let's stay here but whatever dude you still had a good time yeah
but yeah that's what and like stray was asking me if i wanted to do it this year because you
know it's like the last one yeah dilt wheels ever doing and i don't know for me i was like
you know i did it i had a great time at edr it was an epic fucking trip like we just talked
about it for probably an hour like it was a great fucking trip but it's like to go again would just
feel you know i mean like i've done that you know i mean and i like i have a real i don't
that sounds bad i have a real job but i have like a full-time job you know i mean where i have pto i
have to use right yeah and it's like i'd hate to use like i'd rather go do something i haven't
done you know what i mean yeah yeah i feel you on that like i would have a great time doing that
that's a trip that would pull a lot of the pto exactly as opposed to like more from texas is
probably not gonna oh yeah i take a friday off and yeah i'm up there that's nothing i took
fucking 10 days off to do that you know what i mean like that's all my bank of hours right there
so i was just telling him i was like man it would be cool and like be awesome to say we did the last
one but i did like it'd be the same party you know what i mean so i'm just i always try to find
something new to do is like i'm actually in this in a weird spot with that too right i i don't have
the finances to do the traveling that i did years ago and so i'm having to be a little bit more
mindful of like that kind of shit yeah like more intentional like not even just the finances but
just like the uh the ability to be off i mean it all rolls into being financial right because i need
to work to be able to be gone i guess for me like i say it all the time i say if i can just every
year that i get to go to sturgis i'm like okay i'm still in a good spot like things are still good
yeah you can swing you know if i can't afford to go to sturgis that's why i'm like okay what's up with
the motorcycle industry yeah am i not fitting in anymore or is this you know because i saw a luxury
on top of a luxury yeah you know like nobody needs a motorcycle nobody definitely needs to paint it
yeah you know what i'm saying so there's like a little bit of that but there i was gonna ask you
it's like what do you do you have like your must i wanted i want to be here every year kind of things
man i do and like oddly it's the stuff closest to home yeah like i like nitty gritty and fandango
are like must for me just because i don't know that the ones i've been going to the longest and i
do genuinely enjoy them as events like nitty gritty is just a fucking party like i like sport
and eric like i've been going since it was that fucking backwoods and karma it was just a fun
fucking time and fandango it's just i don't know it's just such a good fucking like it's a party
but it's the swap meat is what makes it for me and like not that my presence makes like an impact
on it but i just want to do my part you know and i always have a good time and uh born free texas
i wish i could make every year it seems like i have a fucking wedding every other year like i've
missed two out of the four born frees for weddings yeah but it's the stuff close to home like i just
like try and sport the homies and make all of that shit yeah but as far as out of state that's
where i'm like i try to hit a different one each year you know what i mean what's up on your
radar right now that you really want to do um man i wanted to hit uh grundle run this year
georgia grundle run and i'm fucking there's so much shit stacking up in the fall i don't
know if i'm gonna be able to make it because now it's arkansas shows going on uh there's some other
shit in the fall i want to do um never been to sturgis so that's definitely on the list i
want to ride my fucking chopper to sturgis yeah um have you done daytona i did it once uh is it
worth it you're asking the biggest hater i mean it looks like there's a chopper crowd down there
there is and i i didn't get to go be a part of that side of it i went and tried to camp it was
fucking i froze my ass off in daytona in daytona it's it's not it when i look at the david man
paintings of daytona down there it's like chicks and bikinis and shit it's like no dude hoodies
beanies no shit like it's still cold a lot of times there there has been times that it's it's
not but i've only been once in 2018 and i've talked shit about it for almost 10 years because i
didn't enjoy it yeah but i need to probably uh you know like re up and go again okay dude you
know give it a second chance basically but it's just like the beginning of the year uh i'm usually
very busy getting things ready for other people to go to daytona and i love mama tried i would
rather drive to mama tried and go do podcasts you know different places all up in the in the
midwest and do mama tried and then come home and then i need to work so it usually would line up
where i do mama tried then i come home and i'm working and daytona's happening like a week
after mama tried i got you yeah mama tried is more important to me than daytona yeah i get that
i definitely after being in Milwaukee just like when nothing's going on like that's my first time
up there i definitely want to go back for mama tried next year just hanging out with all the
homies and fucking there that fucking town loves harley davidson dude i i had so much fun there
dude yeah just drink and eat is all we did dude the best yeah like also like we hit the
fucking harley museum we went to the miller brewery was actually really cool too i heard that i haven't
done it but i heard it was a good uh tour it's worth the money dude it was fucking cool yeah
but yeah dude it was just like and then you know we did the museum because obviously that was like
this is why i'm here yeah but then that whole town dude is just dude the neighborhood bar
shit is what i fucking love dude i'm so glad you fucking brought that up because we met up with
some people who uh i was up there with my sister and she had a friend up there who we like lives
there forever so we went met up with her and i was telling her i was like dude we don't have
this in the south where you just have a neighborhood bar on every fucking corner you can walk to
yeah it's very much the midwest like we have to get in a car well it's it's the northeast as well
okay you know like boston's like that new york like all the northeast it's it's bible belt
shut down here there i looked into it a years ago because i do love that aspect i feel like
like here like i feel like you go to the cd side of town to do the cd things yeah as opposed to
like oh no let me just go stop in the pub yeah everybody's doing watch the game uh maybe i'll
drink i don't know i just want to be around this more communal aspect to it but then the other thing
up there that like that i learned while i was hanging out there was that they have like
it's such an industrial town yeah it has night shifts oh yeah so these pubs are like able to serve
like extended times yeah basically round the clock yeah because you know you're getting off
your night shift you want to go have a beer well your night shift ends at like three or four in
seven in the morning yeah so i think it's beautiful man like
same thing in like iowa a jeff's area yeah davenport like don't go there like
go there with the intention of i'm gonna get alcohol fucked up yeah
which i mean i guess the other side of that coin is it can like breed a lot of addiction
and like bad shit too but it's also i don't know it's like everybody needs a neighborhood bar
bro like i you know i saw you puking in that jeep when you were talking out with jeff
jeff jeff gave me the grand tour dude like i i will never forget that experience uh
i want to go up there and fucking party with him bro he's he's the best man i met him the same
time i met you at the at the uh beaver bash at beaver bash we hit it off that first night i think
we were uh i think we were both seeing like old 90s r and b together you and jeff were yeah
because we were like reminiscing on like dude you remember joe to see you remember kasey and jojo
and fucking knew it like just nerd not on all that shit but jeff has like one good night in him
because you remember the next day he was done for all fucking days just fucking done dude the next
day i had to go to fucking uh cedar rapids or whatever i think it's c rapids to do a podcast
with uh darin mckeg okay and darin mckeg sober okay and i'm literally sitting in the parking
line of his building it's huken so fucking drunk still and i'm like dude i feel so disrespectful
right now i ended up just canceling i went to the hotel slept it off came back the next morning
hung out with darin we did do a podcast but we chatted it up for a minute and uh you know his
his spot there dude cedar rapids actually every part of iowa is sick really you got jeff right and
i'm sure there's more people there but like the all the bikers own bars oh sick so jeff right has
the taps and taco which is a sick little bar um you got jeff on the other end that has got nubs
nubs and he has the other bar these open across the river uh cedar rapids i don't know if they
have a bar but the chopper scene there is strong and then you go like sue falls and you got like
all the age you know like uh allemerson and the yeah the whole culture of like the midwest
chopper shit like you talked about shit i want to do make that hell on wheels chopper
i want to do it this year too which i can't do it this year because i got so much shit going on
in august but maybe next year i don't jeff was saying like every other year i
think so maybe the next one yeah yeah i mean because you also got party at the pin at the same
time yeah oh the Ohio one i think no i think the uh Idaho one is around the same time they do
hell on wheels yeah but i i don't know realistically the kansas city uh chopper fest seems like it's
in a weird pocket between like everything else going on okay i i try to do sturgis every year
like that's my sturgis and born free or my like if i can make those every year then i feel very
confident that like yeah i should stay in the motorcycle industry which one you've been going
to longer sturgis or more sturgis i've done sturgis every year since 2014 was my first year
and i only missed 2018 is the only year i missed so every year the best place to go camp yeah it
did we have a campground that we do that i've got so many great memories from yeah it's a good
fucking time dude it's not it's not expensive either like like our camp the campground we go to
is in a good location to get in and out and do things and uh literally like five days there it's
like 180 bucks no shit and they got buckys quality shitters and showers like got some clean porcelain
up there bro like like i want to get back to the campground to take a shit that's how nice it is
like it's it's sick and then they got to borrow on premise okay so like you can go to town like
because sturgis is not a place that you hang out anywhere after dark unless you're getting a ride
yeah like or you're gonna get arrested they're they're out there dwi's are fucking heavy and
i'm sure that's their income for the year oh yeah and they're and they got a deal apparently where
if you do get a dwi you can just pay the like i think it's 1100 bucks cash just pay it off right
pay it off right there and then you have like a a probation of like two like almost a year
but just under that so that you can come back to sturgis next year okay but it's off your record
i think i have never i've heard that it is but i can i have never confirmed if it is or not
interesting but i i would hope so like yeah no shit yeah it's like dude come on i'll pay you
right now just calm down let's make this go away yeah you want another grand yeah it's better than
the 10 grand it costs down here you know but sturgis is fun and honestly dude like even from
texas like riding up there you would a lot of people are like oh man it's so boring straight
up 35 i was like yeah get off the highway or make it make a journey like all those towns like we uh
when we leave dallas we'll usually make it like it's like 800 miles on the modern bikes we'll
get up to like alliance nebraska okay it's a railroad town yeah with sick bars yeah and it's
they got a walmart so there's enough people for that right and it's just almost like you'll have
as much fun and sturgis in this little town yeah the whole trip up there in the whole trip back
and it's such a huge rally that no matter which direction you're gonna run into people you're
four or 500 miles away and you're you're feeling the energy of the rally yeah it's like
milwaukee yeah in that sense you know that's cool man no i love it like if i am gonna take a trip
i am intentional about giving myself enough time but not just blast up an interstate highway you
know what i mean because fuck even coming to dallas i take 281 i don't take 35 you know what i
mean like well when we did the beaver bash again i i've been fortunate to travel a lot
of motorcycles and like that we went from dentin texas to oh yeah y'all rode that year yeah to a
beaver bash which we're talking like 200 miles right you're in the truck yeah he's
in the chase truck and i mean we're stopping at every gas station like every 45 miles ish
and then we're cracking a beer yeah and i was like yeah i mean for for a day like today we're
only doing 200 miles this was perfect yeah takes you all fucking day to do 200 miles so yeah but
like why hurry to get there and just be like all right now you're here now you're just kind of
twirling your thumbs so everybody else shows up like that that was that was very uh enlightening
for me yeah like it was just the same type of shit i've been doing but under a completely
different way you know and i was like oh shit like this is this is fun too yeah like there's
more to it yeah i've always felt like i'm not as much of a destination person like as much as i
like to be on the road and and ride but i feel like i have been until i did that yeah you know now
on this side of it different perspective yeah so yeah i'm guilty because like i was saying like
most of my motorcycle travel has been solo and it's not that i get like i would say like
destination fixation you know what i mean but it's like i'm just not good at stopping you know what
i mean it's like i'll get like 200 300 miles in and i'm like okay i could call this a day but i'm
like there's fucking five hours a daylight left like why don't i just keep fucking going yeah
and i'll do that like i'll bang out fucking gas stop like it's funny like when
i ride with stray like stray makes me stop for real he's like we're eating fucking lunch dude like
we're not just blasting this shit like so yeah i just like to go yeah the uh i was wanting to
photograph more of the trips like you have to slow down a little bit yeah because i mean you've written
through these these beautiful places like there's a shot it's over there there's a good photo here
that cool gas station i need to sit here a minute and find a good shot you know i'm terrible about
that dude i i that's what i'm chasing more yeah is those experiences i mean it's inspired by
like that that documentary talked about the 40 weight you know that they did like
all that bobby's photography uh you know all the people i follow like i want to capture these
things and shit like that and i and i really dig it you know um but yeah it's like i've the first
my ever traveled across country we went to san francisco vegas la row pch and home in like seven
days no shit yeah it was the time of my life but i knew no better yeah so all i knew was the interstate
all the way here there blasting up you know every day was 700 miles it's like
and of course we were on row glides and shit like that so it wasn't even in i mean fuck it's still it
wasn't now i would do that same trip and i would do it in like 14 days and i'm like i got to really
have a good time yeah and stop at big sir and camp yeah you know and then go to monoray and like
ty went on in the bars down there you know so like there's that i don't know what it like for me
maybe just because like i don't have a photography background but like even my buddies who don't
have a photography background like they're real good about pulling their phone out when they're
riding you know what i mean and i just don't do that dude like i'm like i'm just i want to
experience it in the moment but then once i get home i wish i had more video to like look back on
that is literally one of the most like mentally like frustrating parts about this side of things
where you're trying to make content you're trying to capture these moments these experiences
like a job yeah sometimes it feels uh
it feels like dude i saw a meme a meme but it was like a video clip today i don't know who
the person was it was like one of those night show talk talk show hose kind of things and the dude
said yeah i had to get off instagram and he goes why he goes man i know what it looks like on the
top of mount everst i shouldn't know that i didn't i didn't climb that yeah how do i why do i get
that experience because i follow someone else that showed it to me yeah you know what i mean
so now it's like i'm gonna go up there to chase that same thing i've already seen on the internet
so like it ruined that for me so like i've already seen it yeah and i dude it kind of blew me back
i was like fuck man like i mean i'm in the business of sharing this kind of shit but like
there needs to be some kind of part of it that's like you gotta feel this maybe to be devil's advocate
when you talk about those kind of things when you talk about that that sunset ride to the last
gas stop the last destination for the night those fucking sick views the feeling the god damn am i
in a fucking movie right now like that feeling i think when you talk about it people can recognize
it more but when you start trying to show it and you're capturing it and there's hundreds of thousands
of people doing it i think it dilutes it a little bit hundred percent you know yeah so i think what
you're doing is a hundred percent like a natural you know when i first started this podcast you
know i used to do a lot as like man this is a good conversation we should be recording it right i'm
like no like like how many times you've been drunk with your body so we should have a fucking
podcast yeah that's literally everybody's podcast starts that way right but there's like you get to
this point we're like you know what some of these great conversations just need to be had in that
moment like don't try to more or less monetize every little fucking aspect of like what feels good
yeah yeah yeah but there is a dude there's yeah it's a fine line you gotta ride i'm not saying
yeah i'm not saying that one side's gay and one side's not i'm just saying like there is this constant
like pushing like struggle yeah yeah of like wanting to show the world this amazing thing that we get
to do but also not showing them the whole thing leaving enough meat on the bone to them to have
their own experience that's hard bobby does that pretty well he just captures us fucked up at the
events and makes people wonder what happened in between exactly do that shot you got a brendon
and uh hainy oh with the beer hanging down oh my god that was so good it's so i wanted to hit you up
but i was so eager trying to get that video out i wanted to hit you up and see if you could
throw me some of those photos to like do a shout out and put those photos in there yeah but um
yeah i was just busting ass but that photo was pretty sexy that was a good one dude every event
he's at it's either he's gonna catch you looking sick as fuck or he's gonna catch you
your fucking shittiest and just doxied in the whole fucking world but i think when we see him
we ought we want we get to we uh switch goes off oh yeah like you know we were saying is like yeah
nitty gritty you know love eric love everybody to death but they they fumbled this year not having
bobby at nitty gritty yeah last year i weren't you there this is a long trip 10 for you know so
i mean the year before i mean shit we were at the bar and dude either look dudes are gonna get fun
and wild chicks love dumping them out oh yeah it's like and he makes that happen dude this year at
nitty gritty and like this is in the middle of my six week bender but this year nitty gritty is
probably the drunkest like the most fucked up i've been in years yeah like that was peak bender
for me and i'm not gonna put it on this i got but like if you were there i was fucking on what
you wanted to fucking chopper drags i did yeah that was fucking cool yeah well i mean i think
technically uh i got a second yeah but he's like nah dude that that was a that was fun how like the
the main dirt drag was like so uh something was up with it yeah just like did the in the
they just did in the grass like and then the grass got fucked up dude honestly that's my favorite
who was that other dude with the long chopper that had the evo chop like i've photographed this dude
multiple times i don't know who he is was it an evo sportster a big no evo big twin but he had that
long bike that he was dirt he was doing the dirt drags with you and everything i don't remember
dude i was pretty tuned up at that point and i didn't realize what was happening at the end
because i lost that last race right you walked out yeah i like pulled my bike over to my buddy
and i started cracking beer and you're like graham graham come over here i thought we were racing
again yeah and just and that pa fucking sucks so i couldn't hear a word they were saying dude handed
me a knife i was sick were you on that run where y'all crossed yeah yeah i got it on video yeah i
just couldn't remember that you were on that one but that was like sick because i i had it
perfectly i was in the center you know because taylor was doing the flag she's she's awesome to
photograph and film in that spot because she just plays the hardwell and does all the stuff right
and so i had this good shot and then it's just like that goes out and they crossed
in the middle of it and just it was sick dude yeah and it's like in the moment like i didn't even
think about that i'm like oh i'm going over here i'm gonna keep going having no clue how close or
far he was for me like yeah could have been bad but it wasn't so yeah so if you guys want to know
we're talking about i put a a nitty gritty recap video out uh the chopper drags he was heavily
the filmed and photographed one in that thing so yeah dude sick there was one you came off your
foot was hanging off and i think because you're so long and lanky and shit like yeah i think it was
in the other lane yeah dude that's my favorite shit that we do is the fucking dirt drags whether
it's fandango fucking nitty gritty just some random ass fucking camp out like that is my
favorite there's a sketchiness to it that makes it like unpredictable yeah you know it's like the
were you at born free texas this year yeah when i started raining at the end yeah well the the
chick that went out who did that who went off the fucking track oh west from fucking houston went
into the pond yeah and his bike was still running yeah and he fucking rode it out yeah that's sick
he won did west end up winning and then somebody hit fucking timmy's truck
that to me it's like it it's the chopper version of like a stunt show you know what i mean but it's
like you you don't really have to be skilled almost either less skilled you are yeah dude like
the year before last when uh danger dan ran into fucking uh the photographer dude uh
Schultz made the show at born free yeah yeah me that was wild which like go ahead i just like
remember seeing that happen in slow motion like because as photographers you want to get those
angles you want to get those shots you want to get as deep into it as possible to get something
in the harm's way yeah and he was in fucking harm's way he was he was dead center in harm's
way on that one you know yeah and like i know we didn't fucking invent that we're not the only
ones who fucking do that obviously but like when people like my friends from around the country see
that like fuck y'all are doing that shit down there in texas like it makes people want to come
here just for that shit my good buddy uh Dustin that does the lfg stuff he was he was there with us
and uh you know because he does like slow races and he does a really good job of like hyping it
up doing it we did it at born free texas this year and um he's like like i remember because
i didn't get to watch the chopper drags this year at born free i was doing something somewhere
else you know builder shit you know yeah uh but when i i linked back up with him he goes dude
that was the sickest shit i've ever witnessed i was like yeah dude yeah the first time i ever
saw it was at uh nitty gritty like two years ago or whatever three years ago the first time they did
it at uh the salmon lake spot and i was like yo this is sick because usually when i'm at events
we're in a booth or we're camping yeah you're like anchored to the fucking spot yeah i'm not really
i don't everything i need is right here and so now it's like when you're waiting you want to
dude that wrestling was the wrestling was so sick oh boy pull it up in the ultimate
dude uh fucking eric said that those dudes only charge like a grand for that whole setup dude
get them there the whole weekend next year oh my god do a grand like there's like five of them
like how'd y'all split that up evenly to make any sense i'll have a good party thousand dollars done
yeah dude yeah i'd ride down for that that was that was a pretty cool experience man like nitty
gritty this year was uh on one for sure yeah dude he's they've got a good thing going out there for
sure yeah yeah i uh ah the the grundle run stuff like you had brought that up earlier like uh i had
just met uh cody right yeah cody i just met him last year because he you know he won born free
texas with that that chopper he built now he's doing a sick one for callie yeah um i've always
wanted to go east i just don't know a lot of people east i don't either and i i either i need a camp
more but i like to couchsurf i would prefer not not just because of the cheap aspect of it but like
i love that aspect of coming into someone's world and getting to know them better in that way some
of my best friends happen because i i crashed on their couch yeah on a bike trip or some shit you
know well some of the best people i've met is because i showed up to an event i knew nobody at
you know i mean like same thing like like when me and straight went up to michigan i didn't know
anybody fucking there like this dude just put it on his instagram there's one story he said hey you
want to go on this run show up at this address on this fucking day and i screenshot it this was
like six months in advance and we just showed up there mind you we just drove from fucking texas to
michigan and i'm like what if this dude's like an asshole he's like who the fuck are y'all like you
know what i mean yeah but it obviously it wasn't that they're like you just drove from fucking texas
for this like fuck yeah dude come have a beer like yeah and like when i was just in milwaukee
one of those dudes fucking lives there we fucking met up had beers fucking met his wife hung out all
day like yeah dude i mean we've all said it a million times but like the people you meet
through these fucking machines and oh that we're in is like that's why you keep doing it
yeah and i mean you kind of like hit the nail on the head with that one it's like
without expectations going to yeah the thing like you're not going to this event because oh this is
an opportunity for me to level up my my social media game or no fuck that leverage that it's like
no that looks fun yeah like fun i want to go do that shit and yeah you i think you have the most
uniquely you know like you have no idea what to expect yeah and that's what makes it the most
pure you know i mean like you have no expectations true like uh discovery yeah 100% dude was that
something you felt like was happening with the uh the um el diablo trip oh 100% dude you know yeah
what made you want to go so far up into colorado and do all that on the way in um
man i don't know i was just like i knew i wanted to go to edr and i was like like obviously i don't
want to just blast it's boring but yeah yeah so i was like look i can take two weeks off like
what's the coolest route i can plan in two weeks and like hit that event see some cool shit and
still make it back home in time and i was just like i don't know like i want to go right through
the mountains that'd be sick go up into colorado in utah yeah and kind of just fucking plan it down
i was like i think this will work yeah and then just fucking hit it and like the way back i just
hit the low line the whole way like stayed below i 10 fucking just like bisby and all that yeah i went
down into bisby went through tombstone and then road what is it how are those roads tether i've
done tombstone bisby's still on the list i have like a buddy i'm texting back and forth on uh on
instagram about like wanting to do bisby together those were good dude they were yeah and like from
bisby to el paso i stayed below i 10 the whole way and i forget what that highway is called
but it was chill like you're in the middle of fucking nowhere but the pavement was good
like gas stations and stuff yeah yeah like every 90 ish miles yeah because that that's like my
not my biggest fear but it's something that's on my mind of like i don't want to be on the highway
going west yeah but it feels like going west at some form of fashion you're gonna have to be on the
highway in samaria yeah you gotta touch it every now and then like fuck i really don't want to do
much of like west texas on the highways it's like 85 miles an hour or something yeah i think 90
every time i go 90 yeah that's the that's the move down south yeah what's on your shovel heads at
two gallon tank a little more 2.4 i learned um so after i changed the charging system out uh
after going down to austin like i also put all the jets back to the factory jets because i had the
i had just a carburetor i threw it on there it worked i left it alone supery supery yeah and i'd
really not i'm better now with super ease than i've ever been i've always been a makuni guy yeah
well makunis are really hard to get to work on choppers like it's like a it's they're like cv
carbs and there's and then my motor lower cases is the stv case it doesn't have that center bolt
on the uh on the case to put like a traditional um carb support and so you have to do all this funky
shit to make a s or a makuni work on a uh a shovel head so i'm like you know what i just need
to learn the s and s i need to figure it out like you're none to them there's there really isn't
yeah uh and now i got it last night i went road had a good time last night riding around on it but
i finally got the i had my uh accelerator pump way too fat and it was riding like
less than 80 miles of tank yeah when i was dumping so much fuel in it i had gotten used to
getting about 95 to 100 of tanks so it's crazy what two little turners oh yeah does to that
so last time i put it back to factory thinking that all right i'm gonna start over and like
readjust again and find that sweet spot but then i put it back to factory and it's perfect yeah
and i'm on the highway it's running good and and uh yeah so it's 2.4 gallons so i took we took the uh
lowbrow you know sporty narrow tank it's like 2.1 gallons we moved the cap to the center of the top
okay yeah see us more out of it move the uh peck cock so went from 2.1 to 2.4 okay so
and i can almost i could almost get about 100 miles okay yeah and that's the thing i learned
about that trip dude is like going out west and i'm sure there's stretches where you can find it but
like as much as you want to be like out in the middle of nowhere there's always a gas station
within 100 miles you know what i mean it really is so i had two gallons of gas on the back and like
i would use it because i would just like blow past the gas station knowing i had that security on
the sissy bar you know what i mean and just dump it in there to make it what size is your tank
it's two right on the yeah and what are you getting out of the tank 80 that's good yeah
i mean 80 is like i'm ready to get off but like dude it's not bad dude i keep everybody that like a
lot of the guys that are from like the modern bike side of like our brand and follow this podcast
or whatever a lot of people or have chopper fever right now but they kind of like how
uh you know like thrashing and cruising they did like their the m8 chopper yeah you know the same
thing like a power plant and uh i'm like thrashing just bought panheads and shit yeah yeah i mean
i feel like it's about to get busier because there's a lot of people interested in it right now
do you think that is like i got opinions on this but i i really need to like
talk about it some so those opinions are kind of like fully firm firm
fucking alcohol right uh yeah i think
i think things like on youtube it's like about finding more content but obviously
you know i haven't talked to Lance and those guys at thrashing but i know that when they did the
trip last year to Sturgis and Dom was on the shovel head yeah the same way they were on they
all rode carbureted bikes i mean it does when you travel a lot on newer bikes it does get a little
bit like effortless sure right and those challenging doing it on a harder bike doing a carburetor
doing it you know like no sissy bar like whatever it is like whatever kind of like
roadblock you put in there kind of makes the trip funner even though it's an inconvenience yeah yeah
right and i think that they watched him have all those problems they realized that all those
problems he had they still fixed them but they brought such a different connection to each other
like every breakdown was a good time yeah you know and it was solvable it was just like it's
like roadside maintenance is what it is right yeah when i didn't mean to like put those guys
specifically no yes but i mean like that's probably translate some most people because i
see a lot of people from like the modern bike world wanting to get into choppers you know i mean
which is funny because like those of us who went like straight into choppers yeah i'm like
fuck dude and st sounds pretty cool some days like yeah just jam up to dallas on one take a
guess but yeah it's funny to see like how that i don't know people's interests change you know what i
mean yeah i i think that there's also like this unprecedented amount of access to cultures right
now because of social media right so if you think about like in the early 2000s whenever you were
getting introduced to choppers to your your buddy's dad working in the garage like that was an access
that like not a lot of people have sure you know so you don't really have a view into that world
and now that things are on social media the way they are it looks fun it like you watch someone's
youtube and they're like you know having fun on a chopper trip it's infectious like yeah i want
to try that yeah i've always said it like my the thing that got me on this path was 21 days
under the sky oh yeah it's like our easy writer right 100% and when i saw that in 2016 you know
jokingly but i but truth be told like i had just ridden a big wool bagger across the country
and i came home and i turned the tv on on netflix 21 days was i was like
yo what is this this is badass this looks sick like and you know and then it took me almost 10
years of like well like i can't just jump into a chopper you know i didn't meet danger dan and
you know kenny kirk from chopper supply that same year but like the whole performance bagger
and that world kind of opened up to me first before coming into this space so i spent the last
89 years of my life like doing other bikes fxr's mainly you know performance baggers
like all that stuff and it was it was like lucrative for you too it was good it was business but at
the same time like it it what dude performance baggers the early days of it i'm sure it's still
great right now for a lot of people but he used to be sick yeah it was just a smaller community
across america we were all tighten it you know it was like you get to an event it was just like
beaver bash but it was like we're on t bars on roguelites and nobody was really doing that
shit in the early days um now it's the mainstream bike yeah right and so there's that it the best
way to put that is it's just watching that band you used to see in the fucking in the local bar now
you know headlight coachella and shit yeah so it's like it's not that they're bad it's just that you
had a unique experience with it that is never going to be able to be had again right yeah
when do you ever get to go watch you know fucking led zeppelin play a fucking strip club or some
shit yeah right you know what i mean yeah only like to your point about being so accessible i feel
like that's i mean maybe i'm going out on a limb here but like you can probably attest to this you've
been in both worlds now like yeah chopper parties are pretty fun yeah i mean i think a lot of people
see that and that's like they're like oh i want to fucking do that and like these days it's so easy
whether you can win a raffle or fuck if you have enough money you can just buy somebody's bike or
have them fucking build it for you you know what i mean and it's like it's a lot easier for people
to like come into that world but you've talked about it before like i mean you've been in this
a while i've been riding bikes for nine years now it's like you see these people who they're around
for like 34 years they're trying it out and you never see them again yeah you're like what
the fuck happened to that dude he had a pretty cool bike but it just it doesn't it doesn't resonate
with everybody yeah or they you know some people have kids they get a family going they just don't
have the time anymore like i get it but i mean people's justification for any decision is always
going to be like mind blowing to another person depending on where their mind is yeah like when
i talk to people that in the motorcycle world that have zero desire to travel on a bike across the
country even if they have a roguelite like that's just not my thing i don't want to do that i just
want to show up to Sturgis and the bikes they're ready to go yeah like that's their that's their
gig that's what they want to do and it's like all right well you know that's that's cool you know
it's not what i want to do but then again you don't want to do it like why are we why do you have to
do what i want to do like dude you know i've told every girlfriend i've ever had like since i've been
in motorcycles like hey it's like this is my shit right like i'm gonna go on trips and you're not
coming yeah and like i'm gonna be gone for a fucking a week or two you know i mean and at first
it's just like oh yeah you do fucking you it always turns into a fucking problem you know what i mean
but here i am still fucking doing it yeah where they at yeah where the fuck are they all so again
like maybe you know like talking about the i you know like i said i need to flesh out these ideas
better verbally but like i think that a lot of us from the performance motorcycle scene
um we had done a an iteration or two or three performance baggers early days or the last
fucking 78 years of it and like okay well that there's nothing really new to discover here
um yeah it's all been done yeah and like i you want a challenge you want something for me
there was a there's a challenge in learning new skills that i needed to learn to be able to do
these things and i'm still very much so at the base ground level of learning these skills you know
whether it's the the welding stuff machining getting into these other areas right and for me
that's exciting yeah like i i think we said at the beginning this podcast there's this aspect of
like you're always chasing that first ride high and i think the closest you get to that is when
you build something new yeah ride but and the other thing i've been telling
people is like you have to if you if you sell if you have a roguelite and you're like man i really
want to get another bike and you're trying to find another bike that does everything a roguelite does
then you're not really making a change no you're making a lateral movement yeah yeah like if you
want a new experience on a motorcycle then you need to change the ride yeah change the thing
you're doing on the bike so maybe that is going from a roguelite to a low rider st that's that's
difference even though they still do all the same things they do feel different but then
when you start to like okay well i want to do it on a carburetor now or i want that to
i want a normal bike but i want to travel on it's not designed for that but you know it's
still possible these bikes are modular right i just think it's people chasing uh i think some
people are chasing trends personally yeah there's always gonna be some of that yeah i mean some dudes
like well i think i need to do a chopper now everybody's going in chopper's like that's not
how this is supposed to work yeah like there are people out there like lance that i believe
is chasing something that they truly feel compelled to want to do her experience
and then there's others out there like well lance is doing it now i guess we all gotta get
choppers now so yeah what did all your buddies think uh some of them dipped out on me yeah yeah
some of those people on that picture up there don't fuck with me anymore because you like you
wanted to get in choppers i don't i don't or is it just like a natural i think it was the natural
thing like i i don't want to throw that much shade out when i built my gold fxr chop yeah i saw
things started to tear there okay you know um and there's like i don't know maybe that maybe
i definitely want to take some responsibility for it because like my goals changed yeah i still want
to travel on a different place yeah but like i want to travel on this bike now i wanted to
challenge i literally do three trips a year on a road glide the shit's not hard anymore like it's
i guess i'll change the oil before i go on this trip you know like or not yeah so it's like
it got easy man and that riding that fxr chop all over the country was was uh that's the one you
did like the seven-week trip yeah it was a fucking amazing uh like really mentally changing
trip for me that i'm still i still process to this day yeah i liked what you said like you were
you were somewhere and it was like fourth july i think and you're like i should be
fucking stoked right now and you're just like i just want to be home with my wife right now
i have a picture of the so i did a podcast that night that i put on my patreon
and it probably sounded depressing as fuck like dude this dude's gonna shoot himself you know what
i'm saying but i'm in a beautiful place you look out my hotel room there's mountains everywhere and
i got a six pack of hams from the gas station i have a laptop and my podcast set up and i'm like
well it's fourth of july i'm in oregon today was the last day i got to see the ocean pacific ocean
so i was kind of nervous about like going inland yeah like okay there's not gonna be any more ocean
content yeah or photos or whatever opportunities um there's just a lot they go it went through i
i've processed that trip enough now to like be able to say look i put that pussy on such a big
pedestal to be so many things yeah when ultimately it it showed me what it was and it was like a
thing that changed the way that i thought about things you know so but again this chopper shit
right now i think it's um 50 cloud chasers and 50 people that are truly looking
for a new experience on motorcycling yeah you know and to be fair like you said earlier the
chopper parties are the best and i think that's why like the fxr dyna performance culture maybe
the performance agriculture that i'm talking about years ago we always navigated towards
you know the giddy ups the born freeze those kind of events like we party the same kind of
yeah there's always been like a crossover like would you say you feel like
because i know how i feel but my answer is a little biased like would you say chopper dudes are
more receptive to that crowd coming in or that crowd is more receptive to chopper dudes coming
to their parties i i don't know that i can really give a i don't know that my answer makes sense
because i've always gotten a little bit of a pass to go in any place i want to go i feel like we're
very receptive like i've always felt that way you know like i'll come fucking party like i mean
i've always just used giddy up as an example like walk walking around the camp ground at giddy up
you know of course we're walking around no one's seeing the bikes that you're on but you know we
might be dressed different you know maybe we had dicks and flannels or some shit you know it's
like people like yo dude like we're drinking come say we're watching easy rider on the side of this
band right now right i mean so it's like i do believe that and i think that the performance
culture is open minded too but it depends because performance motorcycles a lot of the the people
that are they were looking for an identity in that which don't get me wrong i've looked for i've
my identity is in motorcycles i'm not like trying to point people out but like when you feel like
that chopper being in your little set right there is fucking up your expectation or idea of what this
is that's a bad mindset to have for this shit yeah you know and then when you get to like these
parts of the country where these you know these guys are into like these youtubers you know like
they're into like whatever thrashing or cruisey or uh you know pay from storm riders or whoever
whatever anybody's doing they're into it and then you find like the other guys in your little small
town in the middle of you know uh fucking south dakota wherever the fuck you wherever it is wyoming
or some shit you you might have a dude on a yamaha bolt a sportster a roguelite and that's your
fucking team dude like y'all gotta fucking go party it up and that's your team that's that's what
that's that's where you start you know what i mean and there's something beautiful about that but if
you're if you're gonna put some kind of like okay well those dudes don't have the bikes that i want
so they're not part of this world i want to be in you know i haven't yet experienced the uh
pretentious chopper dude yet yeah i know they exist yeah they're definitely out there but i don't
know man in my experience everybody has always just been so willing to share knowledge you know
i mean like they're like there's gatekeeping don't get me wrong i like intentionally try not to do
that because like one i'm fucking nobody like i'm just a dude with a fucking cone shovel who
fucking rides it everywhere yeah but it's like i was the kid forever who just showed up on a
sportster you know what i mean yeah so it's like now like i'd rather talk to the kid who wrote a
sports or the event than the dude who trailered his knucklehead you know what i mean yeah doing
sports is hungry yeah he's stoked to be it's like now at this point i know both of them yeah but
it's like you're fucking stoked dude like i want to like tell me about your fucking ride like tell me
what happened like yeah it's just it's like keeping that stoke alive you know what i mean it's like
yeah you're gonna get there one day dude but like cherish this fucking moment yeah that's a question
i get asked a lot is like when is the panhead or the knucklehead coming and i was like dude i have
no desire to have one yeah i not saying i don't want one not saying i wouldn't the way i i think
i was explaining it to haney i was like i think the way those like generator style motors and and
you know are to me is like that is just like something that happens like right place right
time shit right place right time fucking it falls in my life i'm not seeking it yeah like like i'm
sitting here talking about wanting to build an evo chopper like i don't give a fuck about the whole
like 84 and back kind of bullshit no i don't either dude i'm like dude i like riding them what's
to me the chopper aspect of it is like yours like mine it's the hardest possible way to ride
a motorcycle jockey no front brake hard to like not saying that other things can't be choppers but
whatever motor you put in that i don't really give a fuck yeah you know what i mean me and jake
have talked about that before like i don't know cone shovel is like a sweet spot dude yeah i agree
it's still chopper ish enough to be fucking cool but it's like still reliable enough and
honestly available enough you can beat the shit out of them not have to worry about yeah blowing
up fucking cases that are irreplaceable you know what i mean like and honestly for me i like the
symmetry of a cone motor yeah like yeah generators are cool don't get me wrong i'd love to have a
generator shovel but to your point i'm not fucking seeking it out and saving up for it i'm perfectly
happy with cone shovels because i can just beat the shit out of them ride them all over the country
i honestly agree with you i think that there's uh i think it's like a good point that you just
brought up that i think this chopper world the only thing that like you really need to do
to just kind of like be rad at the situation like you use that analogy of like you know
eight mile you know uh m&m just you know the movie right yeah he puts it on the table like wraps
all the shit about him like now when you get rip on yourself who else can talk about you yeah
so my thing is like if you're on a chopper a cone head or a cone shovel or whatever like
and you're riding it across the country to some form or fashion who the fuck has anything to
say anything to you about shit because a lot of these dudes don't ride their bikes for yeah
and that's okay yeah but if you want to get a pissing match all right you're going to the road
show paradise road show in austin you trailer from dalis all right dude let's uh we're we're
the same here but if you want to play this game we're not the fucking same dude you know what i
mean which side note that's gonna be a fucking party are you coming down so stoked for that we
all got rooms there it's gonna be oh yeah i i'm late to the fucking party on that one i'll probably
have an airbnb around the corner but even the same dude it is yeah that's gonna be a party
but yeah dude for me it's it's about riding him yeah that's what i fucking like like don't get me
wrong from fucking knucklehead to fucking evos like love them all i mean you're fucking auto
said it best dude the best thing you can put or the coolest thing you put on your bike is miles
yeah like yeah that resonated so hard with me dude like i don't ride the motherfucker you gotta
get that dude to shout out man he's full of fucking knowledge and he he he really has like
been a part of so much shit that like when he does kind of say shit like they're like oh
fuck dude that was poetic man yeah that one hit but it's true dude like don't get
fucking caught up in the fads or the fucking i gotta have this that just riding
the motherfucker like he we were at uh um parts and labor show uh earlier this year
and he was on stage announcing something you know he's always talking shit which i love
and he had brought up like all right we know all the chopper dude because the paradise road show
was going on at the same time oh the palm springs one he's like we all know the
chopper dudes are you know gone or they're all in the Porsches now or whatever i'm like fuck i'm
in the Porsches right now heavy like i really want one i can't afford it but you know like
it's just crazy i don't know what it is about like uh there is like this i hate the fact that
like culture has like this thing that like like when a band comes out and it's like a
metallica right a lot of people were like i don't like metallica they're too mainstream but like
fucking sandman hits dude when it comes on certain places like i fucking love it you
know what i mean nothing that was like the turning point right black album yeah they got mainstream
yeah a lot of people would say it was probably like uh justice for all or whatever but like
me personally like i i understand the analogy but like i don't know man like i when when when
something is just good and a lot of people like it it's for a good reason yeah and uh
you know the chopper thing i mean for me getting into it there there's just so many
parts of it that i'm like attracted to the visual aspect of it from being a photographer
and wanting to capture uh when you shoot a chopper it can be a timeless photo made in 2026 when you
shoot you know like and i'm not saying this is any bad way because i love shooting newer bikes too
like the road glides and stuff like that but you have it's it's dated yeah immediately you know
who was that you just shot was that you're losing a trip where you were like under his arm on the
jockey shift you know i'm talking about you just posted them on your shift oh yeah yeah so
that dude is uh Peyton okay and those were cool shots bro like i'm you know kory from
main drops coming into mall we're doing a whole podcast on our hog experience yeah so i i think
we're i'm thinking i'm gonna call it podcast uh cranking hogs no that's too everybody does that
one but like kory and jace go hogging at the hog rally or you know something something like that i
don't know i'm i'm whiteboarding it right now that one yeah but you know big shout out moranda
she she has been a great you know hainy moranda you know 100 like uh moranda hainy
justin and moran yeah i've been a big supporter in helping me like get on get into like the
harley good graces and whatnot yeah and so before she you know like took her exit she did get me
set up to go do this photography thing down there at the hog rally and originally i turned it down
i was like that's not my fucking jam yeah you glad you did it though oh i'm so fucking glad i did
and and you know i was talking to bobby a lot because bobby's actually done the stuff for harley
as well and um i guess for me it i i was tasked with shooting things i've never shot before
like people and i was like did you have like a checklist yeah yeah this shot and that shot well
they want these types of things okay so there was still like room to be creative there was still
room for opportunity but the types of things i needed to shoot was still kind of constrained in
like okay well this dealership is tucked in like a strip mall kind of area so the background's not
you know phoenix mountains or yeah it's not cool you know he got to shoot chopper fest i'm over here
in louis yeah but louisiana it's sick dude oh i love it down there dude dude it's so the food is
so good oh the people like i i talk about energy in the desert there's an energy in louis there is
so um i mean i'm i'm i'm gonna probably tell the same story again tomorrow when i do the podcast
with cori but i gotta give this dude a shout out uh Peyton i'm in the registration area for the hog
thing and i'm you know i'm already i'm nervous i was i was telling him i was nervous about the
whole thing because i've never shot this type of stuff and i want to do a good job yeah because i
want a second opportunity yeah pressures on so i'm like shooting anything that looks interesting
whatever i walk out of this registration booth and there's a fucking cone dirty ass shovel head
chopper right and just fucking right where you're sitting yeah but like a hundred yards back i'm
like sick i go straight to it start shooting i'm like fuck this is sick who is this dude um and
then of course he starts walking out he was getting coffee i'm like obviously it's his the way he's
dressed and yeah chopper uh the nicest fucking kid man nicest dude and he was just there like
yeah you know my dad's coming up here later he's he's part of the hog chapter here from that town
or like he's from there okay so he's from there but come to find out he lived he's been in like
san francisco for the last like 10 years oh and he just moved back to kind of bring in all that
influence back to he came back i don't know all the details as to why but i think he needed to
catch his breath a little bit sure for more and more ways than one but man like we hit it off
and we hung out every fucking day we he doesn't drink he's sober but he hung out with the bar
of me every night okay drink some uh na beers we had some great conversations uh he was he was just
sick and then the way what was crazy about he goes he walked in goes dude i just watched your
nitty gritty video i was sick because he's not on instagram yeah yeah so i'm like dude we hit it
off it was a good time that's awesome dude i got so many sick ass shots of him and his bike and with
his dad like i don't know hardly supposed to put a blog out that i wrote that i'm kind of worried
they won't put put it out how long did it take from like he wrote it or it took a while okay
maybe i don't know like i was honest but i think that like my approach to it was
i wasn't really jerking off the idea of the event as much as like
they probably wanted like maybe like because i would what i would try to say is look this was
my experience at the hog rally and my experience is very unique because i'm here for a different
reason than like if i was just jumping on a bike and going there yeah so i show up i meet this dude
that's got a bike that i'm into his dad rides there's this 30-year gap between this man and his son
and they're shaman and me around fucking louisiana bayou's and show me all the cool shit
and they're both his dad himself are both rad fucking dudes where in louisiana was that lafayette
lafayette yeah lafayette dude i fucking want to go back so bad dude i want to go down to like
mariah's spot like you know i don't know oh fuck dude like they're like down like i think south
of new orleans like on a houseboat in the fucking like the bar is on a fucking floating fucking you
know what i mean like they have a i think they have a town down there called venice yeah that's
like where people go fishing like tuna fishing you go out of venice yeah that's like the southern
most point of louisiana dude it was a good time man that's sick dude but same like this kid was like
awesome he was riding his chopper with all the doing the hog rides and you know like yeah he's
he's from san francisco and in regards of like that's where he got the chopper shit going on yeah
like hanging out with dudes on the peninsula up there and doing stuff and then he brought his
bike back here and he's doing shit here and i told him like dude you should stay here and build a
scene yeah because you're rad you got his other buddy has a tattoo shop that we were riding with
i got some good shots of him he was rad it's like y'all got a good thing going man like fucking
especially in lafayette dude like you could like like you said start the fucking scene there i'm
like dude just say when dude let's party like i and he was such a both of him and the other dude uh
from i can't say like vasco's tattoo or something like that solid dudes could both easily
fit in with all the shit we do beaver bash other than the fact that like one you know
Peyton doesn't drink um he said he like got he got alcohol poisoning almost died like crazy
story that's straze excuse to yeah well hey whatever you know like but but he's he's still
hanging out and partying you know he's still doing the he's like i said do respect dude
it's like i've done some sober kicks and it's annoying it's fucking hanging out with drunk
people when you're sober yeah it's funny because like we were at a elm fest and my wife was on one
she was wild oh this most written like a few weeks ago yeah i told her like do you're being obnoxious
right now and she won't let that go and then last weekend i was on one for fucking uh you know
the the county seat kickback oh yeah and she was kind of like the sober one in the situation
i'm just like you got payback eat both times bobby's like the the taking care of each one
yeah for those parts i did think that was funny because i just watched your fucking county seat
one and she like at the end she has jace has been drinking since fucking 11 yeah fucking is
well i was kind of worried about like putting some of that on there because uh you know how
youtube is man you don't less than he is a bunch of fucking proper dudes like don't ride your bike
when you drink i was like bro i rode it two miles yeah you could have died i'm like dude take me
out of my fucking misery yeah i'm gonna die at any fucking point on another cycle where did y'all
say that night y'all just get a hotel like so did you meet um uh shon which one short kind of uh
oh from north carolina yeah so shon dude i love that dude he uh he hung out with us at nitty gritty
okay that's where i met him uh one of mike de jong's homies and um
they uh so he they ended up having a hotel at the same place we did so once the bar shut down at
at uh the county seat we just got some beer and went to the hotel and drank in the room
say so dude we called i don't know if you saw it like uh brennan like posted a post he's like
hey if you need a ride at the end i call this number our local uber driver or whatever
so me and ryan called her i'm like hey can you give us a ride the best western whatever
sweetest like old black lady comes and picks us up i think her name was caron
she's like come on babies i'm gonna take you where you're going and we get in there she's chatting
us up and we get to the hotel you know like under like the little awning like yeah and we're like
tipping her through venmo or whatever it was and we're like thank you so much she's like oh no i work
here too i'ma come get y'all room fucking walked in with us yes like went up to like the night lady
who was working she's like hey fix these boys up with the suite on level three we got like the honey
moon suite for like a hundred bucks that's it dude dude shout out to brennan man that fucking event
was i'm so happy for him dude like it went off without a hitch like there is no drama that i saw
anyway other than that little fender bender at the end of the night but that was bullshit and
like dude yeah for a first year event i don't know what more you could ask for it was just a good
fucking hang all day long you know uh the kickstart stuff was fun danger dan brought it out uh haney's
bike show was good uh your buddy uh for his name uh that wrote up with you the panhandle oh christian
yeah yeah he won got the choppers mag award it was sick man he was a good dude i got to chat it up
okay so yeah yeah i was bummed for his fucking through a rod bearing yeah at least he had a ride
home yeah yeah well what i love dude i the the the podcast i really want right now and i've been
me and me and kickstart mic have been there's a photo that michael lichter took of me and him
riding next to each other the first time i wrote a chopper was at galveston okay i was riding uh
what's that dude out in east texas that has all the choppers uh larger fella but his he moved from
like montana and has like a bunch of choppers in east texas yeah yeah you know i'm
he's like friends with like all the dudes like but older guy he was down at galveston he had a
you know um chuck exactly so chuck in 2023 yeah 2023 i built a gold chopper
michael lichter hit me up and goes hey uh do you know jason ocho i'm like yeah i've known the
dude since oh seven yeah right i knew ocho before he was a chopper dude and he's like yeah well
we're we're gonna do this thing at galveston uh for the bike rally and you know once your bike and
you should give it to ocho because he's putting a lot of bikes together to go down there for this and
so that was like the thing that connected me and jason back because we've known each other for many
years many well this is the connection back then just he hit me up to paint something a long time ago
um and then so we reconnected and you know we hit it off again and then that's what i meant haney
was down there okay and i didn't really talk to haney much but what what jason told me was goes uh
he's the one that does the dentin burn house thing i was like oh sick i want to have him on the
podcast i love i haven't been to it but you know i'm obviously kind of transitioning into this world
so um we were down there and my bike was on the pedestal so i couldn't go on the the ride where
lichter was riding backwards shooting everybody yeah so chuck loaned me his old lady's shovel
head it was kickstart but it had an electric start too and i was like i'd never kick started a bike
so i was kind of like scared to do it so i'll take the one that turns on like get it warm with
the starter yeah later yeah um so we go on this ride and then like it just so happens at me and uh
and um and kick started riding next to each other and it's so sick because riding the choppers like
how close you could ride to each other oh yeah you know especially on that on seawall and galveston
which was a fucking vibe and so like i think i'm reaching over we're holding hands or something
and literally got a shot it was sick dude and um but i've been we've been going back and forth
like wanting to do a podcast but it you know just you and mike yeah just not forcing it though like
i don't like to force anything you know especially with him like i feel like that's gonna be very much
on his turn i want him to it's the same thing i was you know i went down to see uh uh david brown
the other day just say hey man how are things going he's like dude the pot the response has been
crazy yeah good i'm glad people are responding because that was that was a sick podcast you're
rad dude man you know but i was like you do understand like i've been coming here and hanging out
buying stuff for a year like i wanted you to get to know me so that when we did do this podcast
you would open up yeah as opposed if i walked in i was like dude if i walked in your shop
a year ago and bought that those spark plugs and said hey man you want to do a podcast like
this guy you know so no mike dude all we can hope any of us is be as cool as mike at that age
like fuck yeah that dude's rad man he's doing it he's rad he's living in he's you know the trips
he's done with danger dan like mexico and oh man dude he's he is my spirit animal oh yeah
old man energy well just like his property too like i'm sure you've seen it but i've seen pictures
i haven't yeah yeah he's got like i've never been there either but he's got a few acres and like
animals and like sheep dogs and shit like yeah fucking killing it yeah i think that
i you know you said something earlier about how people rent win a bike on a raffle
or they can afford to just buy something and i just hope that like they they get the same
appreciation for the culture that's behind these motorcycles because when you're on a chopper
it does kind of feel like you're carrying a psychological torch maybe not psychological but
just some kind of you're carrying something further into into time okay you know like you're
uh like you feel there's like a responsibility almost like yeah it's like to me it's not a
you know my wall is covered in that david man stuff and it's like i've always been drawn to it but
like you're carrying those same things further yeah you know what i mean in a way i don't i don't
i don't know not like it's some responsibility i feel like i have and i'm like trying to do this
for like the lord or some no no yeah i probably said that wrong no i don't know there was somebody
i forget who said it but somebody had a tagline going a few weeks or a few years ago
and it was like do it for the culture not the scene and like that kind of resonated with me
yeah i dig that yeah it's like because this fucking culture has been around for a long time
scenes come and fucking go you know what i mean and it's just like fucking popularity contest
really carpet bullshit but you know you had brought it up earlier we were talking about like
the whole idea of like getting somebody together go in on a spot and just doing like a community
community kind of thing i'm like dude ever since i've heard about that through all the the people
used to have blogs from the chopper scene back day i've i mean i have i have my own shop but i'd
like want that experience so i don't know it's a but it's like all the people who like have done
that you know i mean i feel like it was like a bunch of dudes in their fucking 20s who just
fucking dived in and did it yeah it's like here we are in our fucking 30s and 40s like yeah we
would love to fucking do it but it would it would never be the same as like they did it from like
day one you know what i mean yeah and not that it wouldn't be fucking great or cool or beneficial
now like that would still be fucking awesome to have shop with all your buddies but that's what
the dudes up in kansas city have they have that the blip roasters they the backside of it they have a
it's like five dudes that are all in one big ass spot together and each one has a corner that's like
decked out for them to do their shit got their own little bale but it's like a i think i want to
say i remember there being some kind of like bar aspect there so it's like it's also they're hanging
out yeah like that you know i gotta go nowhere exactly that to me is where it's like okay this
makes way more sense yeah um but dude i mean yeah i think there was a necessity for that a long time
ago uh but i think there's also maybe like an aspect of that now the necessity might not be
because you have no other option it might be because this is a great way to like have something
communal you know a scene if you will yeah yeah um yeah what would you say build this
do it for the culture do it for the culture not the scene yeah yeah scenes do change man
yeah 100 they do but the culture that's fucking yeah it's like you don't own the culture you're
just a part of it you're you're getting to experience it like you're a caretaker of it
for some point in time but like you might be a part of a scene or own i would even
say own but like yeah that's a good one i think that you like that yeah i did too it resonated
with me and it's like because i don't know like i've had this conversation like it's funny the
natural progression it's like like i started with skateboarding and with most chopper dudes you meet
they're either skateboarders they were BMX dudes you know what i mean yeah and it's like
i was a skateboarder that got me into fucking punk rock like i was in the punk rock scene for a
little bit right and then that just somehow naturally gets you into motorcycles specifically
choppers it seems you know what i mean so now here i am it's like now all i want to do is be a
fucking farmer you know what i mean oh you're getting the cowboy kick now oh not dude not even
the cowboy kick it's just like fucking homestead you know what i mean like that's the most anarchist
thing you can do is fucking grow your own food and shit but it's like it's like every fucking
person has that it's just that it's an individual fucking thing but there is a community around it
you know what i mean like i don't know like i was never one for team sports that's why i got into
skateboarding yeah i'm like sure i started smoking weed and doing drugs and drinking and
shit that just kind of comes with the territory but it's all these things that i've i have ever
cared about have been like an act of individualism you know what i mean uh whether it be skateboarding
whether it be fucking music whether it be motorcycles and like or like i said wanting to
be a fucking farmer homesteading like it's very much i don't know like not get it you picking up
what i'm putting down like it's like yeah well it kind of goes what i was saying earlier but like
there's like a groove that that it's like you're in it and you you fuck with it and it takes you
places like that groove of loving choppers has got me like i in fucking Porsches now yeah you
know i'm saying like i don't know why i've never gave a fuck about a Porsche ever yeah but i think
the aesthetic of what i fell in love with looking and being a part of choppers has made that more
appealing now and i see why so many people find that progression going from this to that yeah
nostalgic or i remember in the early teens like 11 12 13 i was like when i really felt like the
vintage culture was like becoming all the rage you know coming like clothes and clothes fucking
everything right every you know it seems like design and style really fucked with late 70s you
know uh you know or even early 70s kind of like uh marketing and you know the way that like graphic
design was and shit but i feel like at the time i was like man what the fuck is all this you know
uh hg tv uh you know revival of this stuff and yeah when you're not in the chopper world it's easy
to look at and go like all these people are cosplaying it really is i mean you like i said
coming from outside of this and you go to you look at bobby's like fucking go to art where's
the rwb visor visuals you know your own website dude dot com so you go look at the first born
freer the first southern throwdown photos he has it's like yeah dude these people are out here
trying to fucking uh do woodstock again right and then you get in it or better yet when people like
on the outside looking in they go like why do they dress like that i was like bro like those
bikes are oily you know i mean like i've already ruined so many clothings that i've you know
you know what's funny on that i'm sorry this is a sidebar but like when we were doing that
fucking bunny shoot with those chicks on my bike one of them hit me up afterwards and like so many
people commented like why is your bike so fucking dirty yeah i was like it's what happens when you
fucking ride them yeah i'm gonna clean it just so you can fucking sit on it yeah well there's
something to that right it's like these older motorcycles leaked oil it's part of what those
things did it's natural it's normal right and there's like fucking road grime too like you ride
through the rain yeah yeah they just get fucking filthy and at a certain point especially having
a white bike like it ain't staying fucking white forever and at a certain point you got to let go
and just let nature take its course but there's also like you know like a lot of people that
think like your your bike has to be so perfect and clean it makes sense like it on a new road
ladder there's a lot of plastic on that thing it looks weird when it's like dirty it doesn't
well like i'm not gonna say it looks weird i just i think when i look at that bike i look at
something brand new yeah you know what i mean like if you bought a brand new house like fresh pavement
fresh drywall and then you went and chopped it up it wouldn't fucking look right right it's not the
right aesthetic but you take something older that has character and it's been lived in and it's worn
and then you you kind of do that style of that it fits yeah right yeah no that's a good way to
look at it because like my chopper like like i spent a lot of money on fucking chrome and paint you
know what i mean yeah like it looked fucking gorgeous when i had it first together but i knew
like i'm gonna ride this motherfucker and like there was a few shows i wanted to take it to and
kind of show it off you know what i mean and i was like very like oh but as soon as you get that
first paint chip in the tank or the first chrome chip you know what i mean it's like all right
fuck it like now it's a fucking bike you know what i mean and if you see it now it's fucking filthy
and i could care less like yeah it's like is haney done with his world tour of the green bike yet
because it feels like he's just like keeping it pristine yeah and he's like it's just showing
off winning awards everywhere yeah like i can't wait till it's as dirty as the pink bike you know
i mean pink bikes it's filthy dude yeah well and he he's talked about that too like he went through
the same thing like when he finished that pink bike he wanted to keep it pristine but at a certain
point you just got to let go yeah like now he fucking rides it everywhere and it looks worn in
and fucking yeah i'm so i'm so tired of cleaning the uh the oil and uh chain lube off my rear wheels
that i just i want my shovel head on the shovel head i just kind of leave it now i noticed you're
not running a chain guard either does it throw shit up on your pants and fender all my clothes have
like a yeah that line yeah so yeah that's all i was saying it's like okay well i've gotten a new
like i i i grew up very clean city played basketball my entire life then i skateboard like
really weird story arc but like i grew up in a spot where like i didn't have stains on my shirts
yeah you're like pressed and starched and all that shit at a time in the 90s yeah but like
it got to the point where it's like i don't have i'm not doing that much work but you know when i
got into like you know when i became an adult my clothing became dickies and fucking you know
whatever like t-shirts whatever the you know famous stars and strap shirts or some shit you know
but then when you start riding these bikes it's like okay well i've always worn darker colors
because i work in a place where i i stained my clothes really so it's a little bit easier but
you know now you get to the point where it's like okay well
you're you're just getting oilier and oily like there's lots of my hands are dirty yeah you know
i'm saying so it's like i there's just like a new thing that happens it's like stop trying to control
this thing and let this thing do what it is and just fit in with it yeah you know and that's what
i feel like the shovel heads been okay you know i did i when i was originally doing the bike i
never was trying to make it a show bike and it's technically not a show bike i wanted to
just do a chopper right and then the born free opportunity came up and i was like well sick
let's do that it's a good looking bike don't sell yourself short thank you but it looks better when
it's dirty yeah they always did it just does they always do and it's not for everybody and that's
completely fine because it's not for anybody i mean yeah no like i say the same thing about
tattoos like you're the only one who has to like it you know what i mean same with your
fucking bike yeah i mean people are spending a lot of fucking money on brand new paint jobs
that look old as fuck you know what i mean one like cracked paint and faded stuff which like no
no shade like if that's what you're fucking into fucking do it like but i wanted a brand new paint
job and i wanted to do that shit myself yeah yeah create your own patina yeah with like the gas
overflow and the fucking dirt from the road and the oil and shit like it happens quick whenever
you ride them you know yeah dude yeah how long has has the show had been done uh it's probably been
three probably going on four years now damn yeah i was trying to do the math on it the other day
like i'm probably somewhere between 15 and 20 000 miles on it like yeah which i mean don't like
for a modern bike that's nothing but for chopper i feel like that's pretty good
like a 34 years fan like i meant to ask you when we were talking about like when you did
do that trip to uh el diablo like what was on a good day 400 miles 500 miles like how did the
bike react to that like was there loose stuff was there dude if i wouldn't have hit that cow i don't
think i would have taken a single ranch out of the fucking bag seriously yeah damn like nothing
happened like don't get like there were days where like because probably on average i was doing like
400 miles a day like there was definitely 500 mile days some of them like 300 mile days we'll
call 400 average but uh nothing dude like you'd get a little hot and it started like fucking
popping on you and like backfiring and like you like you could tell it was tired at the end of
the day you know what i mean but it always started up the next day and like i took care of it like
i did two oil changes on that trip oh you did okay like i fucking uh like i told you the second
day i stopped in amarillo i had i ordered some fucking oil from lowbrow had it shipped to my
buddy's house and did an oil change when i got there and then i had oil on me i did right before i
went to uh mech like right before i crossed in mexico had a oil change that day which did i
need it i don't fucking know but like i try to do well yeah i try to do oil changes like every
2000 miles on that bike because i do i do like 400 500 mile days and i run an oil cooler
i run an oil filter which some people say is overkill for a 74 inch motor but i have an oil
filter and that was kind of a whenever i was trying to figure out what to do with a filter
and hey it was like now everybody who runs an oil filter is like what yeah like it blew my mind
i was like oh shit you can do that yeah i don't know so i forget who it was but somebody told me
is like you're building a shovel head you know fuel filter an air filter and an oil filter and i was
like all right yeah and fucking took that the heart and fucking did it and then like i said i
started putting like serious miles on it's like i'm gonna throw an oil cooler on there like i don't
know if i need it or not but it can't hurt right yeah like some people have told me you might run
your oil too cold but i'm like it's never been a fucking issue for me yeah i'm wondering because
i've only got to experience riding a shovel head through the winter now i haven't had it in the
texas summer so yeah what would you say is like riding the chopper doing a hundred degree day
i mean i've done it and like i run 60 weight sometimes even 70 weight and uh it's funny like
i don't know i'm kind of like really like i don't know i guess kind of like you like overthink stuff
sometimes like when i was on that mexico trip i like took a fucking like turkey thermometer with
me and i was like checking my oil temperature you know what i mean like just see like am i cooking
this fucking thing and it never got above like 225 okay and that's running an oil cooler and
oil filter but going through like 100 degree days like in the desert and shit so if i didn't have
that stuff would it be hotter probably i don't fucking know but in fact the oil cooler probably
helps but i mean what's 100 plus days like it's all it's just fucking hot yeah it's gonna be hot
regardless but yeah i've always run 60 weight sometimes 70 weight and i mean like i said somewhere
between 50 you points are you electronic ignition dinas dinas thank god i went back to that yeah
it's funny dude like because i went through the same thing you did when i first put that
bike together like i finally had it ready and then had to learn how to kick start a bike and it
kicked my ass dude it did it probably took me a month to get that fucking bike started and it
started i had a fucking electronic ignition in it i think it was a daytona twin tech and i was
like i started blaming that and i was like i'm gonna put points in this bike everybody says
points start easier and it was uh it was cheek and it was jacob and they were like dude it's
fucking 2024 like you do not need to run fucking points in a fucking way like put a dinas in that
motherfucker and call it good yeah and i did and it was what do you think that your your learning
curve was to get the kicker it was operator 100 yeah 100 yeah i had no clue what i was doing
like i even called the dude like who built my motor and he was i was like dude something's
wrong he's like there's nothing fucking wrong with that motor like it's you kid like just figure out
how to fucking kick it and uh i think i wasn't given enough gas like mine likes a lot of gas like
three squirts three prime kicks pops right off so the way my carburetor was set up it's like
i was doing the same thing because that's like the general like advice people give three prime
or three pumps three primes and then turn it on and then try to kick it but when i would do that
it would flood the car it would flood it out and see i was worried about flooding it's not doing
less yeah and so i got to a point where like i complained about it i started to figure it out
and then i wrote it to heinies one night and me and my wife stayed up there and then the next morning
i was getting ready to leave and then i it just would not start and then haney kicked it for a minute
he goes yeah dude this isn't right i'm like thank god it i thought it was me the whole time yeah it
still was but so we swapped it to points there at his house so i went to the little the the
shop that you were talking about earlier this down the street yeah chopper don got the whole point
set up came back do it on uh and then retimed it but then another homie zack was passing through
and then while the haney was timing it and everything which i wanted to watch i was talking
to zack so haney set it all up and then i'll i'll sit now i don't know how to time a fucking uh
point set up yeah it ran great ran it all the way up until this last run and then i i always
wanted to go back to the uh the um dinas yeah but yeah the the thing is like once i started to
understand the kicking prod it's like i think when you you first do it you're like i'm just
gonna kick it and it should start like i don't know what why all these other little things are
filling it out there is a feel to it there is a feel it's like there's a couple kick like
i know okay that was a power stroke this is like not blah blah blah like you feel it in the kick
it's like that connection like i can almost tell like okay i've been doing this for a while
all right this is the time it's gonna start and it does yeah but every time i'm like in my head
like i don't know if it's gonna do maybe maybe i need to clear the carve out real quick all right
dude turn it off open it up yeah well no i i i always reset with that okay and it usually
uh like last night um you know it's pretty cool it's cool here in Dallas we had a cool
front come through so i was like you know what i want to meet the guys it dried up i want to
ride the shovel head and i was like all right let me start this up i had it starting 30 seconds
you know what i mean which was from Cole for me is like that's good should i join a kickstart
competition now well i was just about to say like like i do every kickstart contest one just
participate and have fun but like every time when i get out on a kickstart contest it's when you
have to bring your buddy in and have him kickstart your bike yeah because like dude like i'll tell
him like hey fucking quarter like tenth of a throttle hold your tongue this way
fucking blah blah blah but it's like to me it's just so it's muscle memory yeah yeah but there
is something to it yeah but there's dude i i associated to what like i think dna in me
feels like when they finally kill like a woolly mammoth for food or some shit when you get your
bike started i was like did i just start a fire dude are we eating tonight there was there's just
something like magical about that experience like it you know it's like seeing titties yeah
every time you see titties it's like sick it's like every time you kickstart a bike it's like
sick dude it fucking started you know yeah it's it's so visceral and primal i think and when you
get it first kick in front of the whole bar it's like oh yeah i did that but it is like and once
you're like in tune with your bike though it's like you know when something's wrong like if my
bike doesn't start in like three to five kicks like something's fucking wrong yeah and inevitably
dude it's like i was trying to take this check on a ride the other day for like the first time
like pull the fucking bike out and i'm like i'm kicking it and kicking i'm like it is not
fucking starting i'm like son of a bitch i'm like checking the light you know i'm like oh
fucking battery's dead oh i'm like well welcome to choppers babe like i gotta pull this whole seat
off charge the battery real quick and fucking kick it off but yeah dude they will humble you in the
most like inopportune fucking moments like what we've said it before that um if you're like an
individual that has like two weeks of vacation you have big dreams of like i want to ride you live in
texas you want to ride main you want to ride washington and you have two weeks of vacation a
year like maybe a chopper isn't gonna unless you like trailer up there or something like that like
maybe this isn't really the bike for you you know maybe the roguelite that starts every time is
gonna you know solve that problem for you get that motorcycle experience but you know i've been
fortunate enough to do a lot of those trips and like is there's a part of me now that wants to
experience the shovelhead now in those states but like i fucking get stoked just doing the loop
around my house now like it's changed it's made riding a motorcycle enjoyable for no reason i
heard you say something about that you're like yeah these roads that used to mean nothing to me are
all of a sudden so much more yeah enjoyable on this specific bike yeah on my roguelite it's like
dude hurry up like i don't want to sound like i'm talking shit about newer bikes because it's not
really that it's just that those do something different yeah it's like taking to make some
kind of analogy for this it's like taking like i would imagine like i'm not a hunter right but
like i would imagine going hunting and like hunting for deer and scoping and if it's rifle like
there's a specialness to that but you could just fucking take an ak out there probably and spray
and pray just mow the motherfucker down right it solves the problem it did what it needed to do but
there was something different about you know yeah like the work you did in the other one i like that
analogy no that's good and so for me i feel like the roguelite is the ak yeah or the you know whatever
machine gun right it's the thing that just does it really effectively and so it solves lots of
problems but if you're looking for an experience again i can't really use say that because the
roguelite is an experience itself but like if you're i don't know if you know i know something
more visceral yeah you know visceral is the exact word because i was talking to belal about this the
other day i was like when i was on that edr trip like i was trying to like put it into words what
i was like experiencing and i was like i feel like riding a fucking like garage built fucking chopper
is the most like visceral raw way to experience maybe a fucking hundredth of what like our ancestors
experience like westward expansion yeah you know what i mean yeah like these motherfuckers crossing
the plane you're going through a wagon on this shit yeah and it's like that is like in the modern
day and age that is the most visceral way you can experience like the ruggedness of what it took to
get there yeah and like patience yeah you know like patience creates a lot of uh patience is a virtue
i think a lot of people need to like think about this and i had i had to deep dive this on myself
if riding and traveling on motorcycles is you it's easy to say it's the it's the journey not
the destination but it's easy to say that but to live that like when you don't want to stop when
you just want to keep going when you're when you know like you're you don't want to get off the highway
because that's going to add two hours to the trip like yeah you're you're kind of destination
driven brother yeah you know what i mean like this this is about like finding new shit doing
something different you know what's cool about like there's nothing special about the sites you see
off the interstate you know like the first time i saw like a cat like ranch was like the fuck this is
it like yeah i thought this would be way sicker you know what i mean but when you have to go to i
mean monument valley is technically off of a road but like it's not off of a main road it's not off
of a main vane highway you gotta want to be there it's on the 10 the 20 the 30 to 40 to 50 whatever
and so like you have this aspect of like earning something yeah right and so you know the grand
canyon sick right a lot of people go there but when you go there there's 400 000 people there yeah
in buses and droves and like seven different languages being spoken but then you go to poloduro
canyon and there's like a few people there and you're like it ain't as big but god damn this is
this is different this feels different you know 100 percent it all those little things like that
you know people keep asking me when i i'm when i'm on podcasts one of the biggest questions that
always get asked is like what's your favorite ride or road or whatever and it's like bro like
some of the best roads i've ever ridden are the ones that it's not the road it's it was the the
sunset the homie behind me the weather it was all the fucking feelings that all the senses that were
getting tapped in yeah that made this better than when i was on pch or better when i was on
you know some other amazing road and i think that's the one thing that people need to um
accept is like don't chase that shit chase the in the now like yeah being present in the so
those roads around my house like they're sick on this bike because when i oh yeah the sun's
about to go down i got a ton to make that rip and you do and you catch that i come back around the
loop and then on on the way back to town i get to cross the lake yeah and the sunsetting i'm like
i made it fuck yeah it felt good to this day some of my favorite rides i've ever done were those
back roads at my dad's house when i was learning to ride yeah because he's like out there in fucking
cattle country like in the spring everything is so fucking green yeah wildflowers are in the
bar ditches cows in the fucking field and it's just like like you said the sun going down like it's
just it's sick i said i've been all over the fucking country but like where i started is like
still some of the most nostalgic like best riding i've ever done and i think a lot of
is trying to figure out how to how to say that yeah because like if i said hey what's your
favorite ride that you've ever done the world wants to know a destination yeah they don't
want you to say like no it's it's what you were going through the kingdom of heaven is inside you
you know no it's like what you were going through at the time internally and how you
fucking handled it what i love too is like so i got that uh custom destruction like helmet
i think i need to find it i feel like sometimes i catch myself looking like a mushroom head still
but i think i think it looks all right but those metaglasses mm-hmm like i thought i was gonna
get those to like like snitch on people and like film everybody doing drugs and stuff
but dude i literally you put those glasses on and i use them for clears a lot because they
have a transition on it yeah and dude the music is crystal clear in that helmet with those things
on dude all the homies are getting those no like posting their instagram stories with them and
shit from like metaglasses or whatever yeah yeah it's it's pretty cool yeah yeah i mean it's it's
like uh again though it's like it goes back to that statement of like okay well don't want to be
present in the moment or don't want to be recording it like and that dude what doing the youtube shit
is 100% the uh the duality or the uh the push and pull the tug of that thing is like do i take
this sunset in or do i try to think of some motivational bullshit to spill out on this fucking
gopro right now yeah you know this is what i do it for guys you missed out fuck yourself you
know what i mean like yeah like what do you say is like sometimes like i think that maybe there's
no words need to be said you can just film it and just experience it but the fact that you're the
fact that you're filming it though is kind of pretentious in the way of like you're trying to
yeah you want somebody to see it yeah it's like that's really hard man like i want to i i feel
very fortunate to be able to uh navigate into these worlds of like uh motorcycling and meet people
like yourself and haney and and jeff and and ochoa and you know the dudes down in houston and
austin everything and and across the country and there is this inherent like i want to share it
with people yeah like i mean this podcast is technically sharing it you know in a in a way
but like the video aspect of it is just kind of like it is fun making them yeah you know when your
vlogs are sick dude oh i appreciate it like it is a fun fucking you know like this is cool you
know what i mean but it's just two dudes crossing talking across the table yeah ride videos are sick
yeah like strays strays yeah strays killing down the ride videos those fucking the the music videos
basically yeah it's like uh i dig them like they're they're a vibe you know what i'm saying but it's
cool like people like i actually like see shit in motion like the one you post the other day where
you're like going to the county seat you're like hey i just got this bike started at my house here's
the ride up here's the whole fucking party here's my ride home like that's cool dude in a 15 minute
video like that's fucking yeah that's what people fucking want and again that's just like uh i made
a promise to myself and i guess all the people that like fuck with what we do here that i was going
to at least do two youtube videos a month okay so with dropping that county seat i'm i'm current
yeah you're right so i didn't do any in february so i had to like hustle and do four in in uh
april and so i've got two done this month and then you know the fxr build is giving me a lot of
opportunities to like showcase that aspect of it i really wanted to do the whole edr shovel head trip
and kind of do it like tay and uh and um alex or axel i i need to figure that out because i keep
want to call him alex but i think it's axel axel up there in norcal the dude he rode cross country
with yeah they did the uh the whole yin and yang video like i want to you know i'd want to make
a long video that carries you through the entire thing okay you know like
you got a feature length yeah because like there's a there's an aspect of uh
so when i did my trip last year i did the video there's four parts right it was
fucking day one the phoenix day two to la they you know day three is in la doing podcast day four
san diego and then home and it's like one video will get more views but like you're not getting
like a consistent like each video got 10,000 or 20,000 views right so it's like someone didn't see
the whole story do you feel like that's like the content or the algorithm or is it yeah yeah it's
an algorithm and i think that like there's there's an aspect of like when they're certain like when
they drop that video i made a point to watch it on my couch yeah i put it on my tv yes i'm an adult
i have fucking youtube premium like grow up and enjoy the content these people are making what
i happen to see you like ads for fucking men or you know a dude wipes or whatever you know what i'm
saying yeah so i watched that i was like that was sick i felt like i got to know both of those
individuals through that yeah our two hour video and there's another photographer that i absolutely
fucking love who rides motorcycles now but he's not really he's not a harley dude but like i love
he's got two hour videos riding across country and photographing and i'm like who is it uh grainy days
i'll check them out i haven't heard he's dude love this dude you you ever fallen yeah film
photographer dude good vibe the whole time i've watched this two and a half hour video of him
riding from la to main and back four times oh shit and i'm like i fucking i i love it and i
i'm inspired by it and i want to create something like that where like maybe you don't watch the whole
two hour thing but maybe you start watching in 10 minutes and you're like you know what i kind of
want to like like i'm i'm on the shitter or i'm like in my car let me get a more comfortable
situation yeah i want to watch this later and see the whole thing because that those four part
videos i did last year like i captured a lot of things that as a whole it makes context of like
i thought about like recutting those videos and putting together as one
yeah but i just don't have time but but also like i want to find some dudes that like want to do
a deeper longer trip and are on board with like me trying to film this shit yeah and like capture
the movie out of it yeah yeah do you ever watch uh or do you watch those lane split dudes out in
san josei dude i do a lot of them so like i know like now like sun's doing like that whole thing
like on his own but like a few years ago they were doing like those they would take like a yearly
trip yeah it'd be like a 45 part youtube video but at the end of it they would like release
the whole thing as one video that's like an hour hour and a half movie yeah i loved watching those
dude they were doing the sickest fucking trips like that they have such great riding up there
like not far you know it's like oh yeah this our lunch ride is to san josei or uh to santa
cruise or some shit you know yeah but they were taking like oh intentionally like a week week and
a half two weeks whatever it was and just like doing a boys trip you know yeah like they just did
something recently i watched that love was it the uh oh sweethearts run sweethearts run yeah that's
uh was it that dude from uh san francisco yami yeah yeah i thought that was pretty cool 94
seven works or i'm probably butchering that but yeah those are kind of things i think it'd be fun
like and like i said i was telling you earlier like the little run that me and haney have been
talking about going up through like witch tall lotton uh turner falls and back to dalis yeah
the galveston run you know like i mean austin run too i mean like this it doesn't need to be an event
but it could easily be a fucking run yeah like a good time you know um
you know like yeah i i think i'm i think a lot of people are like
like i guess what's cool about what the county seat was is it it wasn't a vent but it didn't
feel like a vent it felt like a hang yeah it felt like we were just riding our bikes to decatur to
hang out with some homies dude it was so funny we like i showed up i think at like probably 10 30
or 11 in the morning like there's like you were there fucking haney was there obviously and like
the show didn't start till three yeah like we were all just there at the crack of fucking
dawn just hanging out fucking and like granted there was like some like non motorcycle people
from the town who like came and checked it out but like i felt like that was our party yeah like
we just got to have it at brendan's bar you know what i mean it's like our buddy just started a
bar so like we're all going to go drink there you know what i mean so and like he definitely
got some good traction off of it which was like fucking sick like yeah yeah that was fun i wonder
what that town thought of that dude it felt like the town went to bed and yeah we just did our thing
still you know and uh i feel like because the town has 287 it's a main vein that like a lot of the
cops kind of flocked to the main highway okay to kind of like you know they were definitely checking
it out earlier in the day but then like nothing popped off so i think they fucked off with that
storm came through i think it ran a lot of people off yeah a lot of us were just hanging in the dark
shed which yeah we were which that storm was fucking great like we got the tail end of that
dude i rode through like runaway bay the next day going home and like yeah there was a tornado
there she was it was yeah like 20 miles from us like people were dying how yeah i don't want to
say i was about to say on that note but like how sick would it have been just for like content
purposes there you go there's the youtube mind again like if the tornado came through there
we're like under the shed you know doing party favors and like that's going on on the outside
you know i'm saying oh yeah just torn it like which like there were still some sick shots like you
got some cool ones of your bike in the parking lot like there was some cool ones like the courthouse
with the lightning in the back yeah so like i think that like i said we we said bobby shots were
fucking sick with like but he he you create those things you put a fucking big ass light in front
of everybody and they just go to town right yeah you get people acting silly
bobby needs to do a book we were talking about this the book that you need to do yeah
he could literally like put a book out of like just which would be like nothing but bangers
of just like texas events over the last 10 years the home no dude counters probably
you could probably do a titty fucking calendar for sure but if you just did an event book like a
coffee table book i'm like 10 years like texas just do the texas stuff the things you you captured in
texas dude that would be a sick book i calendars are cool but like calendars like they they lose their
value after a year oh for sure you know like six shots and then like it's like the uh sweatshop
industries has that calendar with all the the hookers from like skid row or some shit it's cool
but like how do i keep a calendar from 2005 and it's 2032 you know what i'm saying if you put a
book out bobby i'd buy it a hundred percent yeah choppers magic texas edition dude i
just fucking gave you like 40 for three pictures from the county seat dude fucked up i just sent
them all to you god damn hey no i support you yeah you had to wait like two weeks to see if he's
feeling uh generous or not yeah i know i gotta be current dude i gotta do it next day but uh
no i just got a book from uh my buddy Liam and he just the uh chopper chuck yeah no dude i have it
at the it's so sick dude it's like 10 years of capturing like chopper parties dude like so well
when you get to my house later like hopefully we're still sober enough to finish off the 18 packs
that we got and uh i got a nice book collection fuck yeah dude so i got a lot of i got a lot of
photography books from this culture yeah over the last like you know dude that book is sick he did
get on that one yeah i've been wanting to have him on the podcast for a minute but he's up there in
the northeast you know oh yeah you gotta get him down here yeah like i saw him at born free and i
was like the first time i've seen him in a long time i don't know what he looks like oh really yeah
i just i know his brand photography but yeah there's a print that i want to buy i've
said it a million times i want to buy that print or i want to buy the photo i don't know if it's a
print at all of haney when they're on the lola run he's like got the arm oh with like the leg out
yeah he's like i think gregg took that one yes i fucking love that image i would hang it in this
it has nothing to do with me yeah i would hang it in the studio or my house because i love that shot
and i love haney and it's fucking helm encapsulated in a hundred percent dude you know yeah um like
if you had to describe him to a stranger like that'd be the picture you'd show yeah
let me stop you need to stop fucking like propping him up i know he doesn't deserve it
he's such an asshole dude like what a nerd man dude you said something like i think it was when
you did the podcast with him in a show and you're like i don't think i've ever had a
serious conversation with you i don't know if i have i think every time we do get seriously like
it doesn't last for you i had a fucking blast with him when he did the polaroid with us and uh
and his one-liners in my little video for the polaroid was like gold every time he's got some
zangers dude yeah i always remember because when i was editing i was laughing my ass off in the edit
and we were walking out of this bar this restaurant we all ate at and i was like yeah
i got hit on by a gay guy and he goes still got it and i was like got him so fucking like
when you come up with this shit on the fucking fly and it's also like if you text him he's got like
memes on the man you know what i mean dude so i'm in a fucking i'm in an instagram group chat with
him and ryan and i won't say anymore but there's some good memes
but uh yeah i would yeah the the didn't dudes up there like they have a vibe going i'm so jealous
i am too like yeah i lived like i'm 30 miles south of dallas or 30 miles north of dallas
and it's like it's such a like bobby just drove down here you know from north side and it's like
it's gnarly and the highway from dallas to them in didn't is like it's like murder highway i think
is what they call it like 35 just wrecks and shit yeah it's like forever under construction
and it's like though it's so shitty and it's like you're driving through the like some of the most
dense part of dallas and the highways are like you know you're driving to the other side of the
highway because they're building a bridge over here and it's like constructions gnarly it's not
like a it's not an enjoyable ride and there's no dentin is in the middle of dallas fort worth
yeah it's like that golden triangle isn't that what they call it yeah so you don't go around the
cities to go there yeah like around you would have to go like hours around the city dude they're
seeing there is so fucking good though yeah did you ever go to the trendy house no they're up there
you know what i'm talking about oh yeah yeah dude you know what i'm talking about no so dude and
like i i'm not even qualified to talk on this like i caught the tail fucking end of it i've heard
of it yeah it was a house like a fucking seb yeah seven kade lived there early used to live there but
it was like it was just this house they had and fucking dentin and like the garage was in the back
of the house so like the driveway went around the fucking house to the back so they call it the
cove yeah trendy house but it's just like it's where everybody worked on their bikes and like
it's kind of like the community shop they were talking about but it just like where every after
party for every show was like it was just it was such a special fucking place but it was like a
flash in a pan you know what i mean yeah and like i said i just i barely caught the tail end of it
so you got to hang out there oh yeah yeah a few times but like like they were there for
probably i don't know 34 years i don't know yeah like i said i'm not qualified to talk
about it but like the times i was there felt very special like i was like y'all got fucking
something going on here that's sick dude yeah dude how long we've been doing this thing what does it
say three oh seven all right we got it we're done dude yeah let's call it yeah graham thanks for
having me dude we had no idea we were gonna talk about yeah and here we are three hours later
fucking got a mountain i'd kept mine modest i'm on a diet so all right let's go drink some more at
the house and like send this one all right fuck yeah dude thank you all right guys appreciate it hell
yeah man i hope you guys enjoyed that i want to thank graham for coming out and i want to thank
bobby uh old mr photography for sitting in and running the cameras for this uh you know youtube
version of it uh and i want to say thank you to you guys for checking out the podcast graham's
a really awesome dude he is literally just like the kind of guy that when you see him you know
you're gonna have a good time he's a positive uh you know bright sunshiny man uh if you guys
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About this episode
Graham Ambrose (#464) gets into the obsession behind choppers—starting young, building in the garage, and chasing the “first ride high.” The conversation bounces from custom details (shovelhead vs evo, sissy bar fabrication, carb and clutch quirks) to real-world riding logistics and repairs, including a wreck, cattle strike, and roadside fixes like duct-taping a missing axle. Between stories, they hit fraud talk, maintenance costs, and the culture of rallies, Sturgis plans, and riding “for the culture.”
Graham is easy to find and hard to miss. As he puts it, he's the kinda guy where, when you see him, it's all smiles and good times ahead! His Shovel Head Chopper is exactly the same. Based out of the Austin, Texas, area and always putting some miles down, in this episode, we talk about some of his travels building his bike and some of the hype around choppers these days!
