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Classic Auto Mall - #231 - Stewart Howden with Guests Steve Erlichman + Keith Martin

Classic Auto Mall - #231 - Stewart Howden with Guests Steve Erlichman + Keith Martin

Classic Auto Mall SHOW Feb 20, 2026 61 min
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About this episode

Stewart Howden hosts an engaging discussion with guests Steve Erlichman and Keith Martin, diving into their experiences at the Rolex 24 race and the intricacies of endurance racing. Steve shares his personal journey of driving a Porsche to Daytona in 1979, recounting humorous and challenging moments, including a close call with law enforcement. The trio reflects on the significance of endurance racing victories and the unique atmosphere of events like the Rolex 24, emphasizing the camaraderie and accessibility of the sport compared to others like NASCAR and F1.

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Buick Grand National
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Car

Buick Grand National

"It's like a 231. A Buick at a V6 Grand National."

The Buick Grand National is a fast car made by Buick in the 1980s. It has a powerful engine and is known for its black color, making it a favorite among car fans.

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Porsche 907
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Car

Porsche 907

"Oh, it's a Porsche reference there. I'm going to go 907."

The Porsche 907 is a classic race car from the 1960s. It's famous for being very light and fast, and it competed in many important races.

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Concept

Rolex 24

"Yeah, fresh from the Rolex 24. Were you there this year?"

The Rolex 24 is a famous car race that lasts for 24 hours. It takes place at a big racetrack in Daytona, Florida, and many different types of race cars compete in it.

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Concept

24-hour race

"...the significance of how hard that is to do on a 24-hour race to win it three years in a row."

A 24-hour race is a car race that lasts for a full day. Teams of drivers take turns racing the cars, and it's very difficult to win because of how long and challenging it is.

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Porsche 911
David Villarreal Fernández (CC BY-SA 2.0)
Car

Porsche 911

"22 years old, stupid. So, I, you know, grabbed the 9-11 and ran home, grabbed a bag and my camera and drove nonstop. Well, I stopped for about two hours because I was being chased by a cop."
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Term

cam chain tensioner

"...I hear that telltale sound coming from the back of an old 9-11 of a cam chain tensioner collapsing. No."

A cam chain tensioner helps keep a part of the engine tight so it works properly. If it breaks, it can cause big problems for the engine.

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Porsche 935
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Car

Porsche 935

"And just then, Al and Bob Holbert come driving out of the tunnel. Al and Doc Bundy were driving at 935 for another driver that broke."

The Porsche 935 is a special racing car that was built to compete in races. It's based on a popular model called the Porsche 911 and is known for being very fast and successful in competitions.

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Concept

drag racing

"That's, you know, it's, it's one of the things that separates some racing forms from other drag racing always comes to mind because they were always so good at opening up the pits..."

Drag racing is a fast car race where two cars go straight down a track to see which one is faster. It's all about how quickly they can go from start to finish.

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Concept

F1

"...NASCAR, you don't get to do that. F1 doesn't, NASCAR doesn't, but sports car racing..."

F1 stands for Formula 1, which is a very fast and high-tech type of car racing. The cars are specially built to be super quick and compete on different tracks around the world.

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Concept

NASCAR

"...NASCAR, you don't get to do that. F1 doesn't, NASCAR doesn't, but sports car racing..."

NASCAR is a type of car racing where specially designed cars race on circular tracks. It's very popular in the U.S. and known for exciting races and fast cars.

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Company

Holbert

"...selling cars for Holbert back in 79, you almost been moving a lot of iron back then."

Holbert was a car dealership that sold many cars, especially sports cars, and was well-known in the automotive community.

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Company

Brumos

"...we were probably the third most famous dealership in the country. Behind Brumos and Vashik Polak."

Brumos is a well-known car dealership that sold Porsches and was also involved in racing, making it popular among car enthusiasts.

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Part

ring and pinion

"Well, how about running out to Lamont Gear out in wherever and pick up this ring and pinion? Oh, okay."

The ring and pinion are gears that help your car's wheels turn. They work together to move power from the engine to the wheels, making your car go forward or backward.

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Porsche 924
Ermell (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Porsche 924

"...And was part of the 924 project. The DP 924?"

The Porsche 924 is a car made by Porsche that was built between 1976 and 1988. It's known for being a more affordable sports car with the engine in the front, unlike many other Porsches that have engines in the back.

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Term

bulletproof

"...Reliable? Extremely. Yeah. They were bulletproof. Yeah. They were bulletproof."

When someone says a car is 'bulletproof', they mean it's very reliable and won't break down easily. It's like saying the car is tough and can handle a lot of use without problems.

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Term

rotisserie

"...the car was on a rotisserie and with torches and scrapers, we'd scrape off the undercoating..."

A rotisserie is a tool that helps you turn a car over so you can easily work on the bottom of it. It's like a big stand that holds the car and lets you spin it around.

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Term

roll cage

"They put a roll cage in it, got an engine from a guy named Caldwell..."

A roll cage is a strong metal frame inside a car that helps keep people safe if the car flips over or crashes. It makes the car stronger and safer for racing.

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Term

horsepower

"There was a horsepower of that car back there. I think they estimated that the racing engine was about 175."

Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The more horsepower an engine has, the faster and stronger the car can go.

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Porsche 944
Lothar Spurzem (CC BY-SA 2.0 de)
Car

Porsche 944

"...if you take all the heavy stuff out of a 9.4, it's probably fairly light."

The Porsche 944 is a type of sports car made by Porsche. It's known for being fun to drive and has a unique look. It was made in the 1980s and early 1990s.

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Concept

GTP

"...what happened there was Al drove the 9.24 GTP, part of a three car team at LeMolne..."

GTP is a type of racing for very fast sports cars that are built specifically for competition. These cars are designed to be super quick and are often seen in long races.

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Term

Le Mans

"...part of a three car team at LeMolne, and he was supposed to drive with Peter Gray."

Le Mans is a famous car race that lasts for 24 hours. Cars race around a track, and the goal is to go as far as possible in that time.

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Ford Maverick
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Car

Ford Maverick

"...d ran it at Daytona in 81 with Al, Doc, and Rick Maverick. And then the plan was to race that in the Trans..."
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Term

Daytona

"...and ran it at Daytona in 81 with Al, Doc, and Rick Maverick."

Daytona is a well-known racetrack in Florida where many important car races happen. It's famous for events like the Daytona 500, which is a big race in NASCAR.

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Concept

Trans Am series

"...the plan was to race that in the Trans Am series with Doc..."

The Trans Am series is a type of car racing in North America where different cars compete against each other. It's popular and has been around for a long time, showcasing many different kinds of cars.

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Nissan Gtr
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Nissan Gtr

"...we're going to take a GTR, 9.24 GTR and improve it. So they actually raced both cars..."

The Nissan Skyline GT-R is a powerful sports car that is famous for its speed and performance. It's well-known in car racing and has a strong following among car enthusiasts.

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Brand

Ferrari

"There's a Ferrari magazine called Cavalino. Is it still around?"

Ferrari is a famous car brand from Italy that makes very fast and expensive sports cars. They are known for their bright red color and racing heritage.

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Company

Hagerty

"It's owned by Hagerty now. No kidding."

Hagerty is a company that helps people insure their classic cars. They also have magazines and events for car lovers.

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Mercedes-Benz S65 Coupe
Johannes Maximilian (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz S65 Coupe

"...I just sold my S65 Coupe Twin Turbo V12 and I'm kicking myself every day for doing black, black, 16, black, black."

The S65 Coupe is a fancy car made by Mercedes-Benz. It's known for being very powerful and luxurious, often featuring a big engine and lots of high-end options.

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Acura CL
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Car

Acura CL

"...d about the Coupe, the S65 and prior to that, the CL versions, which I have a CL 55, 2006, I like the..."
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Mercedes-Benz CL 55
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Car

Mercedes-Benz CL 55

"I have a CL 55, 2006, I like them is that not many people really know what they are. They're one of those cars that people look at and go, oh, okay."

The Mercedes-Benz CL 55 is a fancy two-door car from 2006 that looks normal but can be very fast. Many people don't realize how powerful it is just by looking at it.

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Tesla Cybertruck
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Car

Tesla Cybertruck

"...California are Tesla, Coop or Tesla Sedan, Tesla Cybertruck and G-Wagon. I know. It's goes from."
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G-Class Gwagon
Dinkun Chen (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

G-Class Gwagon

"And we were talking about the pecking order of cars that you see in California are Tesla, Coop or Tesla Sedan, Tesla Cybertruck and G-Wagon. I know. It's goes from."
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Mercedes-Benz Eclass
Diego Delso (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Mercedes-Benz Eclass

"They widened it. They put independent suspension on the front and put a nice e-class interior in it. But still three locking diffs and all that."
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Mercedes-Benz Gclass
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Car

Mercedes-Benz Gclass

"Yeah, right there. I mean, they know how to market the G-Class and then a lot of them. Yeah. And I mean, I don't think they, you know, that's not where"
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Chevrolet Corvette
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Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"...hem. Well, yeah, because I mean, that's like the Corvettes. I remember there was a time when you could cert..."
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Term

MSRP

"...suggest that you don't mark up a car, but you know, its manufacturers suggested retail price. And it still says that to this day. That's suggested."

MSRP is the price that car makers suggest dealers sell their cars for. It's just a suggestion, so dealers can charge more or less if they want.

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Porsche 356
Berthold Werner (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Porsche 356

"And we sold a lot of them. I have a blue 356. Excuse me, because it was, it was $99.95 was th..."
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Mitsubishi Lancer
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Car

Mitsubishi Lancer

"...ed Railton, who was the guy who designed a lot of Lancers. Right. Yeah, that'd be interesting."
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Concept

SEMA show

"...after the war that today is the SEMA show. Wow. Just after the war that today is the SEMA show. Wow."

The SEMA show is a big event where companies show off new car parts and accessories. It's important for people who work in the car industry to see what's new and exciting.

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Mercedes-Benz C 43
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Car

Mercedes-Benz C 43

"My C 43. Nice. Those are great cars."

The Mercedes-Benz C 43 is a sporty version of the C-Class sedan. It has a stronger engine and better handling, which makes it fun to drive while still being comfortable for everyday use.

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Volvo S60
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Car

Volvo S60

"170, 175. Portion. No, it was in an S 60. One time was that when I was at AMG, which was in a little town"
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Dodge Polara
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Car

Dodge Polara

"...go, you'll never get through. How about the 1964 Dodge Polara four door sedan? This is a great starter classic..."
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Ford Mustang Gt
Calreyn88 (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Ford Mustang Gt

"...bout a great car for a starter classic car. 1986 Ford Mustang GT convertible. Blackover charcoal, 46,000-inch-one..."
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Chrysler 300
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Car

Chrysler 300

"Unbelievable. How about the 1964 Chrysler 300 convertible. Rosewood poly over white and black."
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Ford Thunderbird
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Car

Ford Thunderbird

"...into. And then last but not least, the 1961 Ford Thunderbird convertible, Corinthian wide over black, long te..."
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Lotus Elise
Thierry & Didier Descouens (CC BY-SA 4.0)
Car

Lotus Elise

"Yeah. And it's license plate reads Elise. Oh, I like it."
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Alfa Romeo Spider
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Car

Alfa Romeo Spider

"It's for a 91 alpha spider. Ah, the S4 spider. I've had the top spin on th..."
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Chevrolet Spin
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Car

Chevrolet Spin

"Ah, the S4 spider. I've had the top spin on the car for 36 years. Cars always been inside..."
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Alfa Romeo Giulietta
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Car

Alfa Romeo Giulietta

"...onfiguration. They do for the earlier Giulia and Giulietta because the structure of the top and the top bow..."
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Alfa Romeo Giulia
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Car

Alfa Romeo Giulia

"...he duetto configuration. They do for the earlier Giulia and Giulietta because the structure of the top an..."
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Chevrolet Chevy II
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Car

Chevrolet Chevy II

"...s of the same type of top. Well, I restored a 62 Chevy II noble wagon and the, That sounds so far from you..."
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Lucid Air
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Car

Lucid Air

"...only Nova wagon that wasn't raised 13 feet in the air with 12 subwoofers on the road."
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Chevrolet Nova
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Car

Chevrolet Nova

"You take it to Barrett Jackson. I had the only Nova wagon that wasn't raised 13 feet in the air with ..."
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Datsun 510
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Car

Datsun 510

"...t about the, we've talked about this, the Datsun 510 is the same thing. It's a pretty car in a boxy c..."
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Citroen Ds21 Citroen
Brbbl (CC BY-SA 3.0)
Car

Citroen Ds21 Citroen

"So I agree. So you had a little jaunt in the DS21 Citroen last week, right? Well, the story with that was ..."
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