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I have a new color of the notice Canyon. It is incredibly exciting

I got a shocking bill for the first part of my Lamborghini Cuntosh assembly

We talk about how pretty the Aston Martin Valhalla looks and Zach learns something about his own suspension

It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go

Remember when hip-hop was adorable and it was just like we come down to the show and we like to dance

Let's see you go

And then you know everything evolves with respect to the fact that everything comes from somewhere

Of course fuck. I hate 80s couplet hip-hop. Yeah, I don't like listening to it

But I don't care how iconic it is. It just wasn't our time before us

I bet a lot of you will say that about the kind of hip-hop. I do like listening to it

Yeah, I feel that way about early punk the Ramones. I don't want to listen to it ever

Yeah, I get it. They were important sure, but it was just it's too gentle for me. Yeah, it's the same as a

For me like the pacing of movies that were made before about 1980

Oh, yeah, you know what it like? Yeah, you know that the when the editing was like it was much slower

Every every thing was like way slowed down

And less but yeah less some there was like less background filler noise. There was less like sort of

Background anything again, you know, and and I'm sure it's like that's directly what led to our shortened attention span today

You know, but was the technology allowed them to add more elements. Yeah, they added more elements and we were like, yeah

But you know people tell these movies great, you know, it was made in 1962 or whatever and I'm like boy, you know

The only time I ever went no I went to Hollywood Forever Cemetery, you know for the movie thing I went twice

Sarah took me to see Friday, which was great. Yeah love that movie to my core

But when I first moved here, I went with just some friends from work and they were showing some James Dean film film

Yeah, had no cars and was like him at a fishing village trying to fuck some chick

I fell asleep like sitting up. It was just oh my I took a phone call and left for a while

Like it was it was exactly what you described. Yeah, you just you can't your body and brain can't make it through the pacing

Yeah, long shots of seagulls meaning

Duration of the shot of the seagull was quite lengthy. Yeah, I mean there was there were fewer shots held for much longer

But I'm not talking about

You know one or so that's a different talent. It's just like well

They do that now with slow mo on drive to survive

Uh-huh, it's all slow mo because you get more content per shot right and then you can just put someone's VO over it

Yeah, I've only I've only watched the first episode because I was traveling

I I watched I watched TV when I'm on the elliptical machine at home

So I'll probably watch episode two today, but I just it was I got home pretty late last night

It was 21 hours to get home from Spain, which is a fucking long time even in the even in like, you know

As luxurious of circumstances that one could expect they got they got you on that business Cliz nas Air France even their

regional

Wait regional Europe flights like suck. Those are the small shittiest

Smallest shittiest seats possible smallest overhead bins possible when you're traveling with a pelican your status is

Crucial when you're going in a fucking European flight a regional. I guess they're not regional. They're international

But they're all like little embrayers. You know, yeah, the tiny planes and if you got like 40 minutes

Yeah, if you got to get a backpack, sometimes they're not man

It sounds like two hours dude when I was this one was through Charles de Gaulle

So to Bill bow was an hour and 40 minutes from there. That's not bad

Bro when we did when I did the the Porsche ones in Seville and I was going through Amsterdam

Those regionals were three and a half hours each way in the same. They did not upgrade

To an a320 for that it was still that a lot of times the plane

It's it's either two seats on either side or one seat in two seats and they're fairly narrow

But in I've never been a yeah, they've it's two seats to even in business class. It's the same seats in the front

They just don't put somebody in the other one

That's how it works and it's to to but they only will sell one of them for business class

Or if it's sometimes if it's an Airbus, they'll still leave it 3-3, but they won't sell the middle

That one actually balance sucks. I'd rather have to to and they saw one for a long flight. That's it's like it's still like mad small

anyway

drove the Valhalla and can't talk about it for like

20 days told March 30th. I can't talk about it. I can talk about how it looks. It's not a

That's if that's the only photo. I mean, that's the only photo I put on Instagram because I'm good in Syria

But uh, it's a Aston Martin's, you know mid-engine. I guess it depends, you know, now it's time

With sort of inflation this and this car fits sort of in between

the Ferrari

Testarosa and the sort of the F80 like it's like more expensive than a revuelto

But less expensive than a Koenigsegg or a Pagani

And I can't talk about how it drives, but we can look at it

And I can tell you how it looks I can give you some facts and figures. It's a it's a

1064 horsepower, which is actually like kind of the same as the Corvette ZR1

But it has a it has a tri-motor hybrid system with a four-liter

V8 twin-turbo that's the same not the same

similar architecture to the AMG GT's from before remember the flat plane. Yeah

Now it's in the back. Obviously hot V

mated to a six kilowatt hour battery pack

the 2e 2e motors in the front and then a motor generator in the in the gearbox and

It's

I mean look at it. You can you you know, it's not it's it

It actually I think okay, so I think there's in terms of how it looks because we can talk about that the chief

Design engineer of this car did 720s, which is makes a lot of sense makes a lot of sense, right?

and also

It's bad enough that on itself says a lot of promising things because the seven series McLaren is like the best supercar of all time

Dynamically speaking and so the rear the rear half of the car sort of at the B pillar in back is very 720s looking

Especially sort of from the side

The front to me looks like somewhere between coning zig

That bit right behind the wheel is very coning zig to me. Yeah, and the door is very coning zig to me

Although the door opens up as a butterfly. It doesn't have coning zig

You know this almost looks the very front looks like 918 a little bit to somewhere to me

Yeah, between 918 and AMG one. I think yeah, that's true. Maybe yeah, they didn't really like when I said AMG one

They're like you mean like Valkyrie and I was like, hmm

This is all I am give the headlights to me look like AMG one headlights

But in my opinion

It is very pretty it in person is a very pretty car. I saw it in I

Saw it in the green like the typical like the Aston Martin racing green fucking right

Jethro was driving a blue one. That was really nice like an electric blue. I drove a

a white one

Which would look amazing in person?

Although I had to take the thumbnail car with the with thumbnail with the green one

So the center center cards gonna have the pop green one. Yeah, obviously

Now I told them I had to explain to them that as pretty as this white car is they should not have white press cars

Nobody nobody wants a white press now. I said, but I said this is a great color though. It's really deep, you know pearl

They had a they had one there that was the Aston racing green but with a tan interior

Now we're talking. Yeah, now now I'm in that's class now and now I'm on board so it's a very look I

Anything I say about this car is for like

1500 people

You know, that's the sad truth like most people. I'm never gonna drive one again. I was pretty much told that

Like there aren't going to be press cars after this

So like I'm never gonna drive one again and most people are not gonna be able to afford it

It's a seven-foot your car where any of the facts and figures or technology

Things that will that you think will trickle down into other Aston's that might be slightly more approachable to people

Well, I mean, yes

So this is this is the cars completely made of carbon, you know, it's aluminum front and rear subframes

But but the carbon is made by Aston's in-house

carbon manufacturing thing and it's like a machine made carbon tub which is apparently

New and novel and it creates far more consistency from car to car

They

I've never had enough experience. I've never been able to drive seven

McLaren's back to back to back to back. I assume the guy from the 750 from 720 program

Learned some lessons and said what if we could make carbon tubs more consistently, you know, and then they went down that road

So I only really drove the one car. I didn't drive four different

Cars so I couldn't tell you and David Tuig said was that was that would said to us a million times that there's a whole bunch of

Different small things that could be so different from one car to another right and they could drive slightly different as a result of that

So but but the point is their carbon manufacturing which is, you know, paired with their Formula one teams

experience and engineers

Creates more consistent

Manufacturing of this car. Well, and if it's if it's all done by machines

I wonder if they can then you know make these tubs for cheaper and they'll basically try to crack into McLaren's market

Yeah, instead of you know being known for front engine cars basically across their entire model line

They can go. Hey, let's have a three hundred thousand dollar. Yeah, whatever they want to call it something starts with a V

Let me look it

What does it have that's I mean what I well, no, I'm trying to think what can I write talk about without having to talk about

How the thing changes how it drives, you know what I mean? That's actually kind of tough. Yeah

I

Think

Let's shit man, you know, I'm gonna find a lot of pleading the fifth. No, I'm just gonna keep I'm gonna end up digging myself a goddamn hole

If I if I do this I'll move on but but it is very pretty and you know as always Spain

I'll tell you what as a wine destination

It's it was where where you drink Rioja. This was in Rio in Rioja the Navarra circuit really cool track actually

Great track for testing lots of lots of wide open space to make the car move around

safely

And I got to hang out with Jethro

For for two days, which was great. It was a very heavy seat time experience heavy seat. I got I drove the car for like

Seven hours. Wow. Yeah, I drove the car like a lot and

So so I there's there's when we can talk about it. It will be quite thorough

And as always when I make videos on a press launch even though I drove the car a lot

Like there's still stuff you just like to think of later like the video the video is cool

The video will be cool. I got a lot of coverage. I got a road drive. I got a walk around

Because the dean says go do the walk around so but there's a lot to this

There are a lot of details to point out in the walk around

And we've got you know proper track driving as well. So

Like it'll be a cool video, but even still on the flight homes. Ah damn

I could have put it into this context, you know what I mean, right, right?

It's hard with your when you're by yourself and doing videos like you can't you got to get it all out like then

It's that George Costanza when he's you know, he didn't think of the comeback and then he's like, that's what I should

Happened all the time. Yeah, it happens with every single video we ever make. That's why that's why that's why you watch the video

Oh, and good. Well, vo. Yes, but also like that's why you should also listen to podcast because a lot of times the podcast

We have time to like download and process and like put it into a greater context

Whereas you can't do it because you're thinking about like, you know, are the five cameras speeding like does this driving look cool?

Does this like did I get this thing? Like how much time do I have left?

You know as the radio gone off like just stuff that's like

adds to the

Sort of pressure of trying to

Do a video, you know, you know in essentially real time, you know

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but Rioja

if you want to talk about a good combination of

Very beautiful classic villages incredibly interesting modernist architecture

Great tasting wine that doesn't cost very much Rioja is not an expensive

It can be but really doesn't have to be the shit we were drinking like at dinner

I was taking pictures of it in like Vivino to maybe to remember it later, bro

This shit's like twenty six dollars a bottle delicious nice from the from the source and and delicious

I almost got tried to get a box shipped home

But it was expensive to ship and it is a possible to buy it in America, so I'll just do that okay

How much is it in America 26?

Okay, so that's like yeah, I wasn't local price. No the local pricing was also very cheap

It was not expensive at all to to to drink it there

But the ship the shipping was more than the wine literally it cost more to to ship a case than to buy a case

So just buy it here. Mm-hmm, but if as a sort of a cool

Gearhead destination, you know, it's like 120 kilometers from San Sebastian

So you can do San Sebastian hit the roads track day at Navara

Do some wine tasting you could have a fucking

Grand old time in that area. I mean that is has been selling us on

Well the the axe so so I learned

Me Jethro and this dude Jake from Top Gear safe for him. Oh, yeah, I

Couldn't tell because they go both go back and forth

I forgot to ask one of them was writing for Top Gear one of them was doing Evo

But because they I close you both. Yeah, I couldn't tell who was doing it for what so it was just the three of us

So like that hotel that we said I posted the Frank Gary's one like that's not the press launch hotel

The press launch hotel is in San Sebastian. Oh

And they have a different entirely different program like they have all this amazing

Curated like food like we ate at the hotel restaurant, which was still like great

Like it was you know, I was fabulous at this this really cool Frank Gary winery hotel

But they're like in San Sebastian at a Nobu getting like super Michelin dined and they had a

Like an omakasa table set up at the track

No chef for us and they were like, oh, we thought you three would like just rather have more track time

I'm like, oh my god, you guys are oh, so you were on like a pre pre wave for video for extra time for video

Because they brought like film crews. They had like, okay, you know, they had a whole thing

So and they were like, yeah, we just thought like that you would rather have and I was like you are correct

Absolutely, right. Yeah, every bit of that is correct

and

So they have a they have a whole other thing, but they're gonna be like

Dined they have like a like a three Michelin star chef

Cooking for them at the racetrack. I think they did that for vantage

They had a guy and he was smoking meat with a real fire and you know, the lunch was delicious

and

Running around and filming the car and stuff

Yeah, run over eat for ten minutes

Just like shove things in my face and then run back out and get beauty shots if you're a writer. Hell, yeah, I

Remember I I give them shit all the time only because I'm jealous

They're cuz they just like driving they're like their hands are crossed

What do you think and my hands are like charging tightening switch switching batteries like looking at a script and they're just like

Hmm, but some have to crank out their article like on the way home sure

But the day is a little more leisurely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's that's very much my experience as well

It's like, you know running keep running around and getting beauty shots

Oh, someone said baby Aston spending too much money on their road cars and that's why their F1 cars having problems

Yeah, sorry on the on the well, dude, so on the flight there

You know, I saw a store a new story

It was like Aston lays off like 200 people and then on the way home

I read the story of like Aston's race cars fucking up and I was like, oh man

Like I feel really bad for them and like here's you know a bunch of important people

From Aston including, you know, Merrick Reichman who designed this car and the modern vanquish and a bunch of the current Aston's

He's their head designer lovely man

Very interesting bunch of their head PR people and you know, we're all talking about this the Valhalla because we're excited about that

but no and no it's like so

How's business?

Well, we're hoping because I'll just say we hope that this you know helps our bottom line or something

Yeah, yeah, I can't wait for the whatever it is 21 22 days for I can I can actually tell you how it drives because there's a lot to talk

About yeah, we'll definitely talk about that. I guess their Honda engine mounts are causing so much vibration in the race car

That it's unsafe to drive beyond 20 laps like aren't S2000 owners be like dude. We've been telling you this shit

I sell 43 AMG owners. This is what you can experience. Yeah. Yeah, that's a bummer

I'm sure I'm sure someone will sort that out

Can I show you something cool? Sure?

Wes from notice dropped off. Hey

Someone asked about this today very

the frozen berry Canyon

prototype

in the flesh is here it has

It has guilt hands it has guilt which means gold guilt hands and

Indices and they worked

They had to make you got you've no idea how many prototype dials they had to make

This is such a difficult because if we weren't gonna do it if it wasn't like

exact yeah, and

the key to it being exact is to go from a

very muted

Move color in dim light to a very

Smoothie like color in bright Sun. This is very just like the car sparkly protein shake smoothie

Right because it's underneath a light right now, right?

But if you bring it into the shade it should get much more muted

Yeah, definitely and so that's what the actual car does and so it needs to it needs to do the thing the actual car does and actually

I think it does

So I'm really excited about I think it looks rad. I'm gonna wear this on vacations act

I think I'm gonna

It's waterproof and everything right? Oh, yeah, and look and also this is this is the only one

This is the only one of the entire Canyon range that comes with the new the all-new notice

Deployant clasp they've redesigned their clasp

And it actually has a much smoother

wrist feel that

Just kind of the portion that touches the bottom of your wrist has a nice smoothness to it and

And they've re done something with the micro adjust. I don't know exactly what but cool

It's not I'd be wearing it right now, but it just came and so I have to take like a couple links out of it

It red lines at three which is a little low for diesel. It's a diesel Porsche. Yeah

That's cool. Oh, I haven't thought about that if I should just have them extend that the red line and nine

To well my car goes to 82. Oh, yeah, I was gonna say gg3's go to nine. So yeah

That's a good note. Is do they always have it at three is that like just a standard thing all of them went to three watches

Yeah, all of them went to all the other notices. Yeah, okay

but I

Think this is fucking super super rad. It's really fun. It was it's it's not

It's not gonna be for everybody obviously the regular cars were everybody

But a few people have been like man, can you come out with one that I can get for my girl?

this is it and

If you're the kind of guy who can fucking rock a pink item with confidence, you're gonna be all over this. This is great

So super excited

I will have an on sale date

soon

Unless maybe we move the red line and I don't know how much what it would take to do that

If I can do that without having to require starting all over

That would be fun actually that's a good note, but it's gonna be a lot designer. No big deal

Well, so that's the last one

I mean, we got to make it we got to make it more interesting and then we're gonna move on to that all new design, right?

Well, I think and if you move to like 82, yeah

That or like 820 like that would be pretty cool

Cuz then it also helps the marketing material and it's attached to the red line of the car and but a bit of it

Exactly. Yeah

As a consultant, yeah, 10,000 speaking of the pink car

I got the Blackstone report back just to be you know, cuz I'm a little I'm

Overconfident about not overconfident overly cautious about the engine

Not that I'm worried about it, but like you want to know you got a you got a you got a fucking big money engine and get your boss checked

Prevent it what is it a dollar of prevention is fucking worth a pound of cure with a pound of cure whatever it is

That's a prevention. That's a very much a pound of cure

So anyway, especially when the guy who built it's 3,000 miles away, right? So every time I get an oil change

Which is every 2,500 miles for me now. I do get the the Blackstone test. The good news is

Absolutely mother fucking ace. Nice. In fact, it's it's lower than a lot of the universal averages across the board

And the summary says I lower what is lower all of these things these metals that they look for in the oil sample

And and just stuff that you really you know there in here

We have metals and here we have like fuel coolant water blah blah blah and all kinds of shit

You don't want in your oil. So it basically says

The universal averages show typical wear levels for Porsche four-liter engines

The wear metals are within normal range of those averages given this is a built 4.5

The engine may not always wear like the averages in that case trends over known in similar intervals will best help gauge

How the engine is faring as it stands the viscosity measured in the right range for 0w 40

There's no sign of fuel coolant or excess dirt contamination in solubles are low thanks to good oil filtration

We good. Yeah, great. No problem. So there's like there's

Very very small to you know, whatever it says the acceptable threshold is for basically anything

It's like well below that so that's good. I

Service this car, I mean if you had a standard car you would probably not service it as much as I have but

You know I service it for me that 2,500 miles is once a year

So it's it's more about you know every every February it goes to BBI and then we

Get the sample so one of these you're above the universal average. I think

Not that I'm always looking for problems. There was one where I was on. Yeah, there was one where I was over, but I think

Borr yeah boron was slightly over I

Feel like I'm reading a car's cholesterol. It's like Brian. You know literally that's like it is like you're reading your cholesterol

Yeah, I don't know what it's not over like that much. It's a little bit. This is the good fat

So I don't know or boron's the good fat. It's actually okay

There was something there was one or two that were over in the

break-in oil but

Demand said that was normal because those are the materials of the cylinder liners that they're using now and

Some of it is like supposed to come off in the break-in oil

And they said as long as like the test number two and test number three show

It drastically reducing to like basically zero then it's fine. I think I think your car has osteoporosis though

Cuz calcium is low. Yeah

Never looked at one of these like there's so many different things that they test for which is cool

I have them. I have like three. I guess this would be my

Fourth maybe since I've had the car, but it's good to have I think yeah

Yeah, it's 45 dollars. Yeah, it's if you're a great ounce of prevention

Yeah, if you're already doing a no like if you're already doing an oil change like just fucking do that like why this is just the baseline

You don't there they have a if you go to their website

They have so many tests. I couldn't possibly tell you what any of them do

But this is just the standard baseline cheap test and it tells you a lot

Nice, that's pretty cool. And you get a you get a a summary from a an analyst as well

Not just like raw numbers. So it's really good value speaking of raw numbers

You don't have to read it out loud, but take a look at the first this is the first

Bill from from for the Coontosh, right? So you sent me this but I had no comparison. Yeah

for like

It says labor it says the breakdown in the on the second page

I'm a comparison to previous work. Oh, yeah, so so

So this is the estimate to I won't say the numbers, but well listen

You know Donnie's ego

Was his downfall but also also it benefited me in some ways because he liked being on camera

He liked being on camera. And so he undercharged me. Sure. Yeah, you you brought him business

Yeah, we have plenty of partnerships that have worked out that way

Yeah, I get a deal from office out of sports

I'm sure sometimes because I keep saying that and they go they see my face

We'll tap some keys. Yeah

But what's amazing about this is I'm not gonna say the number of the bill but the number of line items is quite small

It's not many things not many things, but it's not many hours either

That's also true

And and yet to the price quite strong

Yeah, it's expensive. It's it's it's

it's expensive and

And it doesn't seem on the bill like

It's it's that much progress for that much money. That's what I'm saying compared to where I was before because for people listening

I'm holding a two-page document. Yeah, and the front page is a breakdown

It's got someone's address and all that stuff

So you flip the page to the itemized list of to-dos. Yeah. Yeah, so just just this could be on a business card

The list is short. So I'm gonna read I'm gonna read the the things that are to be done people in the comments

You should write guess what you think this should this will cost

Received car organized parts disassemble clean and rebuild right rear wheel hub

Organize and pack shocks ship to be built ship to be rebuilt organized suspension parts

pre-installed gas tanks and organized parts or final install

Disassemble clean and rebuild left rear wheel hub and yeah, so I

It doesn't seem like much when you say that but a lot a lot is is

The the sentence just let me just say that the sentence organize and inventory parts

Organized suspension parts for final install like

He received and a disassembled car of unknown for sure and had to and had to inventory everything was there

I you know what I mean, so like I I

But it's big the question is really like

Because you're you're you're putting together you're putting back together a car that you know how to put back together and that is is mostly there

The the engine gearbox and everything are you're complete, you know ready to go in and in theory

All the suspension and stuff is there and and although the shocks had to be sent out and the wheel hubs had to be cleaned

I knew that actually

Actually even more than that. I'm surprised the shocks were there. I didn't know they were there at all

So I was fully prepared for the shocks to be missing and have to buy new shocks, so I'm glad I don't

Anyway I

Don't envy the person that has to go what's here to an entire disassembled car so like

Whatever that expertise costs, you know is not it's it's paid out in brain power

It's not paid out in hours, right? You know they know they know they can look at the whole floor of parts

Yeah, we're missing this is this is this is the guy who turns the screw half a fucking turn and charges five grand and they go

Oh, yeah, and he goes I learned 30 years to figure out which screw to turn half right, you know

That's where we're at with this is it's 246 toothpicks

Missing these things. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah, exactly. And so so I'm hoping

that once we pivot to

What the fuck is here to parts just go together on to the car

Then maybe it'll be less pain more efficient. Maybe like the question is am I gonna get?

Four of these bills am I going to get 12 of these bills like how like what percentage of work?

Would you say that is?

Where we are to car complete where we are to a car. What's the status bar like is that a that five percent?

Is it ten is it 20? You know like give I do I do need

Like cuz I see what's been done. That's that is in a sense. That is status if that was five percent

That's five percent. I'm 20 fucked. I'm so fucked if that's if that's five percent. Yeah, if it's my guess is

It's 15

percent

Okay

Because they're putting together new parts. Yeah, everything they're putting together is new everything the wheel hub

Other than rebuilding a wheel hub. There's everything that's going on is a new part. Yeah. Yeah

Yeah, they don't have to like put together like a half rebuilt car. You know what I mean?

Like they're putting together like all new shit

I hope I hope I hope but I need like if if it's

Yeah, so far the guesses in chat have ranged from $1,500 to

$27,000 for what we just listed. Yeah, so

It's all over listen, but if you listen to this show and you think I'm you think I'm shook by a

$1,500 bill for a Lamborghini. No, no, no, come on guys

You know what it takes?

You'd also be more panicked if it was 27. Oh, it was yeah, that was $27,000

We'd be we have a fucking that's past panic. I'd have an actual problem. I'd be like, oh shit

Like I got to sell something. Yeah, you know, that's yeah. No, this isn't that but like it's five percent

That's five percent. We have a problem. Yeah. Yeah, I'm hoping not

Expertise cost money

And and and also like

Uh

Franco's European sports cars is a very small shop. There are only four indoor

Workspaces there period. Wow. So like it's not like Donnie's place in the middle. Nowhere, but it's big

Donnie could have 25 cars inside and he could work on one at a time and the other one can and the rest could just be there

This dude if your car is inside, it's getting his it's getting attention. It's that shit's going he he wants this car done and

You know next so I don't anticipate much dawdling

Which is like doesn't have a bunch of cars parked waiting to go. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, no

I mean, there's like a few cars outside

But the place is is very small like he can only have four cars inside being worked on it

I feel like that's a good way as a shop to keep things moving

You know because if you have too much storage area

You can just take in too many clients with you know like this to-do list gets too big. Yeah, have they found any missing parts yet?

Um there they said I didn't speak to Damien yet. I spoke to his

The the person who does his billing just to say okay, you know received and I'll send in a check but

But I said was you know was there anything missing and she said there were a couple of things that were missing

But it wasn't anything that we had to call you over so I assume we're talking about

Bolts or little fucking bullshit and not

You know, yeah fucking the intake manifold, you know or something

Obviously the intake manifolds on the engine, but you know what I'm saying like nothing nothing major yet, so

Anyway, why that is helped me mend something on my car sort of mend what happened

I mean nothing actually broke

But I picked him up from here last night before we're gonna go to dinner and we and we basically have the same suspension setup and we

And he and I drive down this, you know this road to Jefferson

Which is like the a very bumpy section this area and he just like he says you don't have to live like this

And he's been telling me for months like to you know adjust my damper my rebound and compression

Yeah, because he did it on his car and it transformed it and he goes after dinner

We're gonna fix this and so after dinner we were in my garage and we like put the car in little blocks

And we just like you know click the things and we went for a drive on the same road and and I go this is better

It's nice. I've had this adjustment. I've just been like

I don't know stupid and stubborn and shy about it. So funny, but he's like I think we can do we can do more

Yeah, and he's that loves to research it and go real deep on things. So he's sending me like

Rally suspension specs and calculators and things but this was just like let's start in first grade for you

Zach and just click click click click click click. That's awesome. Yeah

So it is better um the

So I I saw Jethro in

In in Spain and he was like he was like are you getting one of those

Trailers from from Brian James. I said I are he's like is it one of like the aerodynamic ones and I was like, yeah, and he was like

You know in England we tow those with like a golf estate

He's like they're literally meant for being towed by small cars. Yeah, we talked about this

They have like smaller wheels and shit and smaller everything

Intending to be on a on a small SUV or like a crossover or something. He was like I can't believe anyone thinks you need a

Superduty for one, but did you tell him to give him a mountain question? Yeah, okay, and he's like it doesn't matter. Yeah, okay

Whatever so crossover. Yeah, no like fucking like kind kind. Yeah

Hmm

But I thought I thought it was funny that he was like are you fucking nuts?

It's like why not that we were considering but he's like why would anyone think that for one of those you would need a huge truck?

That's crazy, but you know it be be careful asking that question because you'll get all the rest

I'm tired of hearing about it. I don't care

Do you want to talk about Leno's they'll return and they'll go to questions a few of them

Ah

Leno's law is back

They've it's been resurrected

But it'll probably still be called fucking Leno's law, but according to Haggerty

SB California SB 1392

brings back

Leno's law and and and and approves improves

Shot I when when Zach said this morning. Hey, did you hear the Leno's law is back on the table?

I said, yeah, but I bet they made it like shittier because that's what things that's how things usually go here

That's how they usually go. Yeah, someone compromised to make it shittier, but actually it seems like

the new version is actually better so

the the

the new the old bill

required you

To effectively be a car collector and prove it and prove it weird

Yeah prove that you are ensuring this thing as a collector vehicle

That that you have this, you know that you are a car collector and that it's been assigned a special

Historical vehicle plate which are usually assigned only to special vehicles, right the new one

Apparently it changes the definition of collector vehicle

So it actually says it reduces it to a sort of a binary. Is it your daily driver car or not?

And then what was the other thing wait and and then so you don't need

You don't need it to get the historic plate anymore, right? So you really and California

Defines a collector vehicle as quote one owned by a collector used primarily in shows parades

Charitable function historical exhibitions and not used primarily for transportation

The new one deletes the term quote by a collector

Removing the need for the owner of an older car to prove that they were a collector

Basically, you don't have to be a collector. You just have to have a car. That's not your daily and is of the age

That this law

intends to exempt you from smog, right so

You're allowed to use the car as a car, right? It's just not your daily, which is essentially the same

Requirement you would need to get like Hagerty or any other companies agreed value insurance. Yeah

And it also it also adds the phrase it gets rid of the phrase for display maintenance and preservation

right so before

Kind of going with that collector thing you were only allowed to drive the car around if it was going to a show on display

Yeah, going to maintenance or like driving it for the car's preservation

Yeah, like getting the oil going well now they go well you can drive the car around you can't drive it every day

Yeah, so that this seems really good a rare bit of common sense. Yeah while so I I mean look

I was supporting it before

Because you know better than nothing

But now I support it more

and I mean in reality it would be I think I

Do think it's it would be fine if they just fucking

Exempted if you had them if it was a mileage requirement or they had

Exemptions they shouldn't have to do the the not your daily driver thing

I think if you want a daily car if you want to keep a car running of that age

It's in good condition and drive it every day. You should that's me you should be able to but well with a mileage requirement then

maybe

You know, but if it's if it's if you have a car that's of

1992 and it's very difficult to get to pass if I wanted to daily drive my

Ferrari 328 for instance, I think I should have been able to and not pass not have a small requirement

I think that's a slippery slope though because

You could have I don't know pick up trucks

You can have just a lot of cars from 92 that belch out a lot of emission stuff

Yeah, and if there's no mileage requirement people go

I drive it 30 miles a day you might drive one mile a day for your daily, but someone drives 30 and yeah, you know

I just think there's there's there's not a lot of cars of that age really being day

It's a very small percentage of actual cars

I think of a certain class of car

Yeah, that's true, but I think if you look out on the highway at you mean

There's older cars all over the place from the 90s especially because they're fairly reliable. Yeah, but well not

It's not really most usually if you get to the 90s you can they'll pass smoke

It's like stuff in the 80s that like really is iffy on smog

Or performance cars really and I also I and yeah now

It's like I also wonder about the cost of enforcing that versus blah blah. I granted my default is

Cleaner air right that's that is my default even at the own my own expense, but like I don't know I think I

do think a a

Either mileage related or somehow tax offset

Small exemption for cars of that era that are just blanket cars it would be okay, but like sure we'll take I'll take whatever

I think they didn't mileage is like, you know 2000 a year yeah average mile

You know average driver goes 12,000 miles a year. Yeah, all right

You can drive your Ferrari 2000 miles per year. Yeah, and it would be easy enough to like send in photo of the odometer

Or you have to get a verified. Yeah, you know authorized place. Yeah, so

Yeah, like instead of getting you go to the smog station

But it like instead of getting a smog they just verify your odometer

Statement sticker and you go about your fucking day. Yeah, that's okay

You know you pay whatever smog whatever it costs to get a smog you pay that but you just get a verification of your thing

That'd be very simple. That would be simple. Yeah

Because that's connected to the DMV system already if you get smog like you don't have to do anything

It just goes to the DMV so like they could have another tab

Yeah, and just yeah, I don't know because them computers are kind of old-looking

They are but I think they're all connected. There could be a way to do this. Let's go to the people

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Right send preludes. Oh got a new job. It is moving to southern Germany. Wow

Congratulations in your opinion

Would you rather experience the Alps by driving through them in an economy car going the speed limit or use public

Transportation and be able to focus on the scenery

I'd rather drive my own car sitting in the back of anything and I mean like second row or behind

Yeah, I'll get sick like I will get carsick and on a bus or something that many twists

I'd rather just drive stop take a risk

Alpine trains. Oh, yeah, Alpine trains are fucking dope like

the if you there's so many good Alpine trains like I

Driving the Alps in your own in your own car. Even if it's a sucky economy car is still amazing

It's it's still awesome

but then like drive to somewhere in Switzerland and

Get and take a train through the Alps like that's the shit. So do both. Yes, agree

Congratulations, though

Southern Germany is dude fucking Munich Octoberfest love it Gran Turismo licensed to hill driver's test

With a thousand horsepower deemed useless for the streets. What is a wattage number for stereo systems that make it too powerful?

I have no idea high. I

Feel like

Well, don't doesn't the Range Rover like new ones they come with like a 1900 watt stereo and it sounds awesome

Yeah, it's got all it's got 19 speakers. It's got so many speakers

It's got so much power

But like remember when we talked about the car stereo guy that had won all the Academy Awards for sound design and had

had designed the best sounding car stereo I've ever heard and had six speakers and

And and no any and we introduced him to Scott at BMW who won the notice Canyon

the teal in the

Blood donation thing to be the match thing and he works for BMW and man did this guy

school us on

The customer wants all those speakers the customer wants all that wattage the customer doesn't really know

What amazing sound is they kind of have to be told

only certain special audio files and

audio files could really tell and and

There's no money in including a value for money

Car stereo like ever. There's no money in less is better. Uh-huh. That's the thing if you say my my car has four

Speakers only six speakers, but it's done by Academy Award winning blah, blah, blah

There are so many plebs out there ago. I have 19

Yeah, you guys thought the same house in the same fancy neighborhood whatever and 19 speaker guy

Most people are gonna think he has more stuff. Yeah, that's the better thing. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah

Oh, I forgot. I just remember I have to write something down. So sorry pause because

It's almost like the opposite of you could have you know a paint I guess art so subjective

I say you could have you know a painting by a famous artist, but the painting could look very simple like one color

It's like a square like a Rothko and Rothko's just like a color, right?

You know one but it's worth 80 million dollars or something like that and then you have a great portrait that was 400

Yeah, this is a yeah, it's the opposite. There is a unique world. Yeah

Carbon monocoque and ball torture

So should be carbon monocoque and mono ball torch, you know, right? When there's a character limit. Oh, maybe

Every Brooklyn cool guy I talked to is starting to show interest in cars two weird ones

they all love are the El Camino and

diesel

123 Mercedes

Predictions for the urban gentrifier statement cars in the coming years

TLDR, what are the American spirits cigarettes of cars? What's the PBR of cars? I mean I

Don't think the El Camino or one two three is

Being being shown love by the Brooklyn hipster class is a new thing at all

I know multiple like young cool

Interesting artsy people that like El Camino's and diesel Mercedes. I don't think that's like a new thing

I think the diesel Mercedes was first

I think that was after they got after Volvo's

Then the diesel showed up diesel Mercedes

I think Lady Gaga bought an El Camino like during her eBay carbine phase and that probably helped a little bit

I look she did she also had a diesel Mercedes

She had a seed a CD a coupe those are dope

But like yeah, I mean water

Urban gentrifier statement cars. That's pretty funny. Um, what are they gonna be driving in Brooklyn next Previous?

Maybe

You know of Chrysler Voyager the early ones. Oh, wow. Yeah, your heart is fuck

Yeah, that's the whole thing but that's what that car I just saw some article in Esquire today

That was like JFK core is hot first. What is that?

But that's not by the way, that's not JFK

President it's JFJFK juniors style because I guess some movie just came out about his

Yeah, whatever

Bless you. I don't know what style is speaking of movies on the plane home from Spain

I watched the the running man the new running man with Glenn Powell. Did you see it? No, not bad

I didn't love the ending but but overall a great great way to spend two hours on a plane

the movie cars

the cars they use in the film are

Worth mentioning because they're fucking hilarious

almost every car in the movie is either a

C4 Corvette or an Aston Martin Lagonda Wow, like I don't know they must have built about a dozen

Aston Martin Lagondas for this movie, but it was a very I

Don't know how nobody like brought this up to me before

There's a bunch of like kind of like it was a couple 80 shit boxes. There's a very clear Alpine

placement the this this Alpine is in there

I think they put that in there because a they they paid for it

But B they wanted a car that was like a modern car that a that a normal person would drive

But it's but they wanted but not a car or a brand that most Americans would recognize

This is an I rock but that's an I rock but with like a weird

They basically back to the future to do a bunch of like I rocks Corvettes and like if you think about what the cars look like

I'm back to the future to how it was just like 80s is cars was cladding and shit. They pretty much like did that

Wrangler though the yeah, the the bet the run the hunters drove

like SUVs and stuff and the and everyone else drove like these sort of like

fictionalized version of like 80s cars, but do there's in the city where like the

Where the sort of wealthier people live

It's like all Aston Martin Lagondas and I was like that's a fun detail actually

Why aren't they showing?

First of all, I don't know this website existed, but it's internet movie card data. Oh, yeah, you've never you never seen it before

No, oh, yeah, that is a thing. There we go. Where's the Aston Martin Lagondas? There's so many of them

Second top yeah top left maybe yeah, there's one. Okay, finally there's finally one Wow

Yeah, but they put like a charger tail light on it. Yeah

It's but so in the in the areas of the city that are like a little wealthier

There's like these S Martin Lagondas rolling around maybe I'll watch that on the flight to Miami. Yeah

This is a good plane movie. Okay, not like a huge Glenn Hall fan. I'm not either

It's I his face angers me for some reason, you know, I mean

Not as much as I'll tell you it's like Aaron Eckert, but without the acting

Yeah, you know who's you know, I was his face angers me on the way to Spain. I watched fucking

No, the Nuremberg the was it called Nuremberg, I believe it's the one you just watched the trials for fun

It's one with Russell Crowe about the Nuremberg Nuremberg Charles Nuremberg

Yeah, okay, Rami Malek is in it his facial expressions really bother me

Oh, he's he does weird who does these weird things with his mouth

I want where it was that his character or is that it just what the problem is it's he's playing a person

That is a real person in history, but it's not a famous person

It's not it's just a person from history that got it

So like maybe he fucking studied this person and that's exactly how this person

Talked but like I've never heard seen or heard of this person before so I get you if he's he didn't need to do that

It's not like playing Stephen Hawking. You know what I mean. Yeah, we you know, we I don't know who the fuck this guy

He's good man. He was in this movie. I watched The Amateur with Lawrence Fishburn. I think it's like a

Born like Jason Bourne type thing, but Rami Malek such a good actor. It definitely elevated

I know he's a good actor, but his face bothers me

Also added to the TST reading list now great book non-politics. I regret almost everything by Keith McNally

He's the dude. He's a restaurateur

That owns like Balthazar pastis like like crushes it in the New York restaurant scene

But had a stroke tried to commit suicide had like three divorces

fucked up relationships with his kids like and

And writes about it in incredibly honest and and funny and

Sad and interesting way and I read the entire like what was it called?

I regret almost everything by Keith McNally read it in one flight

I fucking carry this thing all the way to Spain and I finished it half way through my trip so

Back to the shit

Re-education through snap liftoff oversteer that's great

With 200 to 250 K in the pocket

Would you go for a new zr1 or a used seven series from the Claren use seven if I could get into a 750

For 250 yeah all day. Yeah extended warranty

Zr1's I'm in at a hundred next year

Because they will make too many

Okay

Bald bearded and beautiful. I have a 718 gts

What mods would you do while making it usable as a daily is doing the gear set of worth it on its own?

Would love the shorter gears just scared of the price

If that well you should the price a lot. It's like 20 20 grand plus

Yeah, but if you're keeping the car for a long time, it will really change it

It won't affect your reliability won't affect your ability to use it as a daily

It would only make the car better

They wouldn't even they'd never even know with your warranty like and you'd probably get back and I know it's dangerous

You'd probably get back at least 50% of that mod on the on resale

Yeah, because people everyone knows it's awesome and it's a great thing to do

But the initial price is really high. Yeah, if you pair that mod with a clean DME report on the back end

You're right. I bet you get half of it back

Um

That's so you tell your partner. It's really just 10. It's not 20

Yeah, and then while you're I mean while you're at it if you're gonna leave the engine stock

You know, you can do the the standard triple threat of the IPD plenum the lightweight flywheel and the

Catback exhaust and and you can have a pretty good time with that. That's that's a fun one

Bring back the crotch vent says

Current trending car design is boxy with the Santa Fe tell your eye grand ear defender, etc

In the past after all the car cars were boxy. We got blobby catfish era like the Taurus

I would call the Taurus more like tadpole than catfish. What do you call it catfish?

No, it was very it was just like rounded stone

Everything was like a rock that had been in the river for a thousand years rock. Yeah, the Chrysler

Concord I would say that was more catfish. Yeah, big mouth sharper rear big mouth round mouth

Do you think we'll follow the same and bring back the blob jets?

I think fashion shows that it always goes in cycles. I think clothes move quicker

But I think we will people get bored of the blocky thing eventually we'll go back to like super aerodynamic

Yeah, justification for blob fish

Although I think they figured out that you know the the tail of the car is so important to how slippery it is

So they might have to keep a sharp ridge back there. Yeah, I yeah, I think I

Don't know actually how aerodynamic the blob fish cars were

I mean they they probably like looked like they were at the time and they did have wind tunnels and they were testing aerodynamics, but like

Were those as aerodynamic as cars ever got and then we backed away from that from for styling purposes or are our quote boxy cars?

Like an Ioniq 5 is boxy, but like pretty aerodynamic. Well, let's see. So a 96 Taurus had a

coefficient of drag of

0.3 oh, oh, that's pretty down from 0.32 of the of the predecessor and then but amazingly the 86 Taurus

Or sorry 85 Taurus had a better coefficient of drag than 9-elevens at the time. Well, yeah, you're talking about a G body

So an 86 Taurus was 0.32

So, you know in nine years they switched from blocks to blobs and it only improved by nine percent

Yeah, what is an Hyundai Ioniq 5?

I'm gonna

Because the cars that this person mentioned are like big big

Unified is point two eighty. Yeah, so like it's just cuz something looks round does not make it aerodynamic at all

So so I think you know in the search for ever more

Aerodynamic designs we may get more sort of swept tail cam back type things, but I'm not sure we're going back to the blobfish front ends

We'll see interesting though. I mean dude

If I'm totally honest my tycon isn't not blobfish

The front end of my tycon is medium blob. Well, I've got blob now

But with you know like you're there's some those vertical elements next to the headlights

Yeah, that's a little bit of aggression and sure you are just full blob. Oh, yeah, yeah

I had fun me and Larry Gisela

Stage rallied one of those blobfish Tauruses on an undeveloped spring island in

1997 when we first got licenses nice it was a good time

I warped the rotors on my friend Eric Jacobi's

Parents car a couple of times so did he but that was a fast car back then man

Yeah, that's a 16 year old and we're like what yeah

Ah

HOA surveillance van has a GT4 with buckets just moved to Florida

I missed the Canyon drives. I had while living in Utah. No fucking shit

Beginning to search for a next fun car. That's more suitable for my situation

Ie driving five to seven hours for a quarterly trip to the mountains is a

991.1 GT3 with 18 ways worth the 30k premium over the 981 GT4

No, no, no, it is not it won't change the rotor on no

Any other exciting car suggestions under 135,000 dollars that won't depreciate rapidly and fit my use case

Oh, yeah, dude. You got a budget. Let's fucking go to AMG GTs, whichever a GTC

sound because in my opinion Florida's very boring

So I want something that sounds good when I started up

It's exciting off the line sounds rad also looks cool

And then if you go to the twisties five hours away, it'll also shine there. I'd go something like that sure or a

Very lightly used

Carreratee with like that flat six kit

That's true done. So then you could go to like the Cape Canaveral the runway shit. Yeah, you could do that. You could do

I

Mean core I do Corvette zero six slightly slightly used the fucking maybe not even at this point

Slightly used Corvette zero six would be perfect for that task

Any I mean any really any number you don't need to go if you have a GT4 you don't need to go to an old

A 10 12 year old GT3 to get an upgrade you can get a

GTS like one of the turbo cars like it's like in 2019

GTS with a stick it would rip and it would be very comfortable to drive. Yeah on Florida roads every day

I think they need to think about what do they want in a car experience now that the landscape has changed

Yeah, and then go from there, you know, yeah

I mean and and quarterly trips to the canyons is great too

But like in between all that, you know, you want something that's like that you want in Florida, right?

Which is you know, what's gonna ride good? It's got to have good power because people drive fast as fuck on the highway there

And that comfort you're looking for but there's a you're I think you've

Instinctively discounted a lot of amazing 9-elevens that aren't the GT3 because you're seeing that GT3

Badge as being the upgrade from what you have, but I think there's other cars that'll work better

Mm-hmm

Donnie's tire swing says we share a lot at my shop next door to a trip. Oh wait, hang on a minute

Sorry. Oh

Sorry that I appreciate you, but that is not a question that should have made it through my bad

Sorry Jaguar bus says should Aston Martin build something like an LM002 or G wagon

No, and I'll tell you why because I like that Aston Martin is not a military

Contractor or trying to be one. I don't think they are anyway both the G wagon and the LM002 were our exist basically

like because of military

That's not to say that like all military everywhere shouldn't have vehicles or something

But I don't I don't think militaries need an Aston Martin

I

Miss when AI just meant to shop in Westchester. That's a fucking awesome username

Very much appreciated and shout out to AI design in Tuckahoe, New York

Okay, it's currently running a set of continental extreme contact sports that have 20 20 date codes, but under 1500 miles on them

Continental says on their website replace tires at 10 years old most of their sources say six years

Car doesn't get driven much, but obviously when it does it's spirited they look new

They've been stored in a climate-controlled garage, but I understand rubber still ages should I be shopping for new rubber now?

Look, I mean I

Don't want to say it's

If you if the car's really been stored indoors

Climate-controlled and you touch the rubber and it feels like it's got some give to it

It's like you can feel when rubber gets really hard, you know

It's somewhere between ten years is really for like I

Don't know if it also depends where you live if it's is it warm are you driving in the rain?

You're driving the cold are you driving in the sun if you're driving in the sun and it's warm

And you're not pushing the limits of handling or anything like that

It's probably fine to go a little closer to the ten-year mark if you're really you said it's spirited

But if it you're going out and it's cold or it's wet

Then maybe you want to get a little closer to that five six-year mark. I know I don't want you to spend money unnecessarily

And if the car has been stored indoors and the rubber feels okay

You're probably be fine and it won't go beat from good to zero in a day

It'll it'll gradually get harder and crappier because if the car lived outside

Especially in a place with high UV index so Cal Arizona, whatever those tires are gonna age much more quickly

The way you know our skin would yeah, so that's something to consider too

But if you like Seattle where it's moist and it's cloudy and it's stored inside

It'll probably last longer and look if you get a chance like when you're driving this car when you find somewhere that's safe

Test it do a fuck do a panic stop do a full ABS stop do a full like you know launch or a heart really hard

Acceleration and low gear like and you can see like is is this tire getting traction or is it not right?

You know and you you'll you'll know

But the fact that you're thinking about it is good keep thinking about it, you know observe and report

Um

All right, even Flowmaster

You both driven some high-dollar

Resto mods. Well, what would the first and or most important upgrades be if one was to DIY their own

Let's say with a 944 for example

Suspend suspension I think

And I'm getting you know tires of course, but I think

High-dollar suspension can transform how a car feels

More than almost anything

So that's where I would go. I mean here's the thing high-dollar Resto mod is

Different from a DIY project

Because a Resto mod communicates a point of view of the person building it the person building it says

at least someone in my opinion who's doing it with passion like a singer or a gunther or a

Revology or a you know people that are doing this high at a high level

They go, okay, I

Like the aesthetic of the of the original car and the spirit of the original car

Here's how I would re for lack of a better word re-imagine that car today

and

It's usually the completeness of package and the and the quality of the assembly of those parts like if you look at a

For instance a revology Mustang and I say that because I'm looking at them in my shop every day because we've managed their marketing fleet

if you look at it like from 20 feet away just looks like a

68 Mustang with a nice paint job and

I go, oh, you know, it's a it's got a brand new Mustang GT and then you go, okay

It's 350,000. Oh my god, and then I go go close the door

And it's it's like a brand new Mercedes not like a night and you go, oh so like if you were you you essentially

can't DIY that I mean you can if you're like a

Rod everybody like everyone with everyone else if the question is just like how do I upgrade my old car?

The first way to do it if you it's not glamorous

But it's like put it as close to factory perfect as you can

Because like a lot of the time like that's like if you get a 94 for like alright

You get coilovers, but like what if you don't do all the bush eggs and all the other stuff like that's how you make it

Like with my Ferrari 328. I

Mean I got to give Donnie fucking credit when he did everything he did it felt like I had a rest o-mob

And all he did was put it back to how it was supposed to be

You know so your car might have 30 years of who knows what the fuck done to it or not done to it

And it might not be performing anywhere near its potential. It's true

So like that's where I'd start and then when that's not enough

And you go okay now I need more, but like you'd be shocked how well that 944 would handle with all-new rubber

Rebuilt or brand-new Bilstein shocks

You know and and new tires and and the thing would probably handle awesome. Remember that fucking dude

I'm sorry. I forgot his name

But when we were up in the canyons in like an m6 or something and this dude was like mobbing his 320 by 8 or 308 like

He was pushing like serious speeds in the corners, and I was like wow

Let's just just put back to stocks. Oh, yeah, these were fucking Ferraris when they were new

Yeah, but all the rubber between where like, you know that the tub

And the unibody or whatever meets the suspension. Yeah, that has give it's not letting the suspension do what it's supposed to do with

Along the geometry the engineers designed it to do so that's a good point

Trans mounts and you know all that kind of stuff and then even like

Weather stripping like the way the doors will close and seal like that shit's kind of expensive

Yes, but it's not hard to like put on so like you you can do some of it is some of it could be but like you could you could DIY it

Yeah

You had me at hell lotus like I like that

How does a normal person go about finding a quality transporter at a good price

Well, look you can we do that stuff at WCCS

So you can fucking email me or send me a DM and I can just do it for you if you want to do that

I mean everyone else like

Cheap fast, you know good right so

most people do not understand what it costs to

To to get a reputable

Legal insured

Transporter to ship a car. It's the same as storage

Most people on the outside think that the service I provide should probably be worth about should probably cost about half of what it actually costs and

That's just based on like vibes same thing for shipping

Like you see the sketchiest every time people I

Quote them price and they all handle it myself

Nine times out of ten the truck that shows up that they've booked is far

Sketchier and lower quality than what I would have booked only maybe once was it above what I would have booked and even then I

Suspect if I had told them about the more expensive option, which I didn't do that. They probably would have just done it through me

but like

There's no such thing as cheap

I mean you're gonna get garbage like you're gonna get well

I mean some of the problems that I've encountered we used to ship cars for like TV stuff is the truck will break down

Four states away, and they have to send a different truck or the driver's communication skills are terrible. Yeah, the driver

Falls asleep for I mean there's there's some there's mechanical problems driver problems communication problems weather problems insurance

Damage problems when loading or unloading the car. Yeah, I mean that can happen at any price point due to negligence

But like what you're paying for is to minimize how many of those issues will arise so yeah talking to other people in your car

Community, that's probably a good way to start

Fine, you know go to car show or just DM people and say who do you use?

You know if you're with this guy's moving a car from Texas, but wherever you live

Well, if you see your big brand-name trucks reliable and horseless carriage and stuff there they're gonna be premium

But you know for for a reason yeah people move

Bugatti's in the reliant trucks. Yeah every year to Monterey. Yeah, yeah all the time and and and so like

Car like in a best-case scenario

Carshipping sucks like it's tough like even even with a with a very reputable company like drivers will

Communicate poorly their English won't be great like they'll give you a window and then show up on the very very edge of it

You know like the cable guy or whatever

We I can minimize that using a higher-end transporter can minimize that and certainly if something gets damaged

Which can happen at any level

The way that that is followed up with and handled it would be much better

Given a higher quality transporters. So I have a I have a baseline that I'll work with I have

The regular tier which is good and then I have a great and the great is probably 30% more expensive

But if the car is valuable enough or the customer is that obsessive about it, then then we'll do it

But but that's it's man. It's if you need me. I'll help you. It doesn't need to be to or from WCCS

We can do it, but it's um it's

If you shop by price you fucking are getting what you're getting for sure the

In in seriousness the more I've paid for a higher-end company the better service

I've received but it's usually a lot more money than people think it's gonna be which sort of sucks

I have to run. I'm sorry, but we are for the live audience. We're double-headering today. We're back at 4 p.m.

Pacific with Magnus. He's fucking unloading his collection. Yeah, clearing out the goods as it were

Wants to hawk that shit on our show and I said, you know what Magnus? That's okay. You can you can come hawk your shit on our show

As long as you allow me to hawk my shit on your show. He doesn't have a show. That's okay

So we'll talk to Magnus later this afternoon

and for those of you on the other end of this program that aren't listening live that'll be next are on Thursday and

Thanks everybody. Thanks for our patrons. We'll save your questions. We've got we got we got questions

We'll get to them. Don't worry save them for next show

but I have this is my only business day in Los Angeles for

Two weeks this past week and this this next week and even some of the following week

So like I have a lot of business to do today, including two podcasts. So I'll see you next time

I will have dates for the frozen berry

Notice Canyon release pretty soon. We'll see if we can get that red line set to where my car is

That's pretty cool. I like Zach's idea there and

We appreciate y'all. Thanks very much. See you later

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