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DEALERSHIP CHARGES HOW MUCH MARKUP FOR A FORD?!?!

DEALERSHIP CHARGES HOW MUCH MARKUP FOR A FORD?!?!

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Dealership pricing gets put under a microscope as the hosts and callers test negotiation tactics—especially asking for the manager—and compare outcomes across multiple stores. The discussion centers on how far above MSRP dealers will go, including examples like “$30,000 of markup plus 699 for permanent plate” and a Ford Raptor R deal framed as “MSRP plus a 30 K markup.” Along the way, they talk about rebates, taxes/fees, and whether any leverage exists when markups get extreme.

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Concept

car deal negotiation

"And one thing I like to do every few months is deliver, go through and test every possible way to see what the best deal to negotiate a car deal. One of the most common requests I get all the time is does asking for the manager get you a better deal?"

Car deal negotiation is just the back-and-forth to try to get a better final price. People test different tactics—like asking for a manager—to see if it actually changes what the dealership will sell the car for.

Topic

asking for the manager get you a better deal

"One of the most common requests I get all the time is does asking for the manager get you a better deal? We're going to test that today. I'm going to go through and track every deal I do."

They’re testing whether asking to speak with the dealership manager helps you get a better price. The idea is to compare what you get with and without the manager involved.

Car

Hyundai Ioniq

"Today's victim, or sorry, today's negotiation is going to be on an Ioniq nine calligraphy design. It is going to be one of 18 in the country."

This is a specific, higher-end trim of a Hyundai Ioniq model. When you’re negotiating, the exact trim can change the price because dealers may price and mark up different versions differently.

Car

Hyundai Ioniq 9

"This is a new car. Okay, so it looks like the Ioniq 9. Correct."

The Hyundai Ioniq 9 is an electric car made by Hyundai. The podcast is basically confirming the model name while talking about a new vehicle. It’s the kind of car people consider when they want to drive without using gasoline.

Car

F-150 Raptor

"4-1-1-1-50. We are looking for a Raptor R here. Realistically we're going to be dealing w..."

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck with a bed for carrying things. People use it for work, towing, and general hauling. The podcast mentions it while talking about finding a specific high-performance version (the Raptor R).

Term

MSRP

"Realistically we're going to be dealing with a lot of dealerships that want to be above MSRP. Now what I'm going to do here again what we're testing is I'm now going to call these same dealerships"

MSRP is the official sticker price for a new car set by the manufacturer. If a dealer wants “above MSRP,” they’re charging more than that sticker price.

Concept

dealer markup

"Realistically we're going to be dealing with a lot of dealerships that want to be above MSRP. ... Realistically a good deal in this car is $10,000 off or sorry $10,000 above MSRP"

Dealer markup is the extra money a dealership adds on top of the car’s normal price. Even if you negotiate, the dealer may still try to keep that extra charge.

Term

stock number

"I have a stock number if it helps. Okay, what's the stock number? Stock number 1A is an alpha, 56038."

A stock number is like the dealer’s ID for a specific car on their lot. If you have it, the dealer can look up that exact truck faster and confirm it’s still available.

Topic

dealer calls to get movement on a deal

"Um, so let's keep looking and see if we can keep getting movement. I keep calling dealerships. This dealership is doing $24,000 a markup."

They’re talking about calling dealers repeatedly to see if the price will change. The goal is to get the dealer to move closer to a fair deal.

Car

Ford F150

"It looks like a 2025 F-150 Raptor R. That's it."

The Ford F-150 Raptor R is a super off-road version of the F-150 pickup. When dealers have one, the price can jump a lot because they’re in demand.

Concept

trade in

"And, uh, are you, do you have a trade in? Or are you just looking to, um, just buy it by outright?"

A trade-in is when you use your current car to help pay for the next one. The dealer gives you a price for your old car, and that affects what you end up paying overall.

Concept

financing

"And, um, you know, are you financing or just, uh, paying cash? I am financing."

Financing means you’re paying for the car with a loan instead of all at once. What you pay over time depends on the loan terms.

Term

permanent plate

"This dealership is doing $30,000 of markup plus 699 for permanent plate."

“Permanent plate” is a dealer fee for getting license plates that you’ll keep. It’s an extra charge you might not expect when you’re comparing out-the-door prices.

Car

Toyota Camry

"...ow what you could do. You could build me a Toyota Camry, I guess, and that would be worth $30,000 a marku..."

The Toyota Camry is a regular, everyday car in the sedan (four-door) category. People like it because it’s comfortable and practical for daily driving. It’s mentioned as an example of a car you could buy for a specific price.

Concept

dealer profit

"$30,000 above MSRP just seems, you know, I know that they say that everybody's got to make a profit, but that just seems greedy."

Dealers say they need to make money on the sale. This part is about whether the extra charge (like a big markup) is reasonable or just too greedy.

Car

Porsche Cayman

"So I'm going to peace out. Cayman Jack Margarita. And taste your escape."

The Porsche Cayman is a sports car designed for fun driving. It’s built to feel quick and responsive rather than just being a comfortable commuter. The podcast mentions it as a recognizable example of a performance car.

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