DEEP TROUBLE: Riding Loaded in Big Bend – What Went Wrong
About this episode
A father and son set out for a Big Bend BDR ride with heavily loaded BMW GS bikes, extra fuel and water, and a loose plan built around camping and improvisation. What starts as fun gravel and stream crossings turns into deep sand in a wash, where weight, speed, and a hidden dinner-plate-sized rock combine to cause a hard crash. The aftermath becomes a remote recovery story and a practical debrief on load placement, emergency gear, shake-down rides, and slowing down in uncertain terrain.
Clif Holland shares a father-and-son motorcycle adventure that took an unexpected turn shortly after arriving at Big Bend National Park. After a 700-mile ride to reach the start of their backcountry route, the decision to explore before staging their gear set the tone for what followed. Riding a heavily loaded BMW R1200GS on remote backroads, Clif quickly found himself facing the challenges of sand, weight distribution, and the limited margin for error on big adventure bikes, which led to DEEP TROUBLE. We talk about backcountry riding and the importance of preparation, training, and testing your setup before tackling routes like the BDR.
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tire inflator
"Experience riders choose the cycle pump tire inflator made by Best Rest Products for one reason, because they can count on it when they pull that out of their pannier, no matter what."
A tire inflator is a small pump you can carry to add air to your motorcycle tires. If you get a flat or lose pressure, it helps you get back on the road safely.
A tire inflator is a portable device used to add air to a motorcycle tire when pressure drops. In remote riding, it’s critical for fixing punctures or correcting low pressure before the tire becomes unsafe.
Best Rest Products
"Experience riders choose the cycle pump tire inflator made by Best Rest Products for one reason, because they can count on it when they pull that out of their pannier, no matter what."
Best Rest Products is a company that makes motorcycle tire-repair and tire-inflation gear. The point here is that riders trust their tools when they’re far from help.
Best Rest Products is a brand that makes motorcycle-focused tire and repair gear, including portable inflators, tire tools, and tire repair kits. The hosts mention it as a go-to choice for reliability on long rides.
Hex Wrench
"They're so tough, they're warrantied for life. Best Rest has loads of other motor specific products like the Hex Wrench, which is a combination tire iron slash wrench, and they're known for their top quality tire plugs and patch kits."
The Hex Wrench is a multi-tool for motorcycle tire work. It’s meant to help you deal with tire problems on the side of the road.
The Hex Wrench is a combined tire tool described here as a “combination tire iron slash wrench.” It’s used to help remove tires (tire iron function) and also provides a wrench for related tasks during roadside repairs.
tire plugs
"Best Rest has loads of other motor specific products like the Hex Wrench, which is a combination tire iron slash wrench, and they're known for their top quality tire plugs and patch kits."
Tire plugs are like rubber “stoppers” you push into a puncture to seal it. They’re a fast way to get a tire holding air again so you can keep going.
Tire plugs are rubber inserts used to seal a puncture in a tire from the outside. They’re commonly used for quick roadside repairs when the puncture is in the tread area and the tire can be safely driven afterward.
patch kits
"Best Rest has loads of other motor specific products like the Hex Wrench, which is a combination tire iron slash wrench, and they're known for their top quality tire plugs and patch kits."
A patch kit is a set of materials to repair a puncture in a tire. It’s usually meant to seal the hole more thoroughly than a quick plug.
Patch kits are repair supplies used to seal a tire puncture more permanently than a plug in many cases. Depending on the kit type, they may require removing the tire or working from inside the tire for a stronger seal.
cyclepump.com
"More at cyclepump.com. Adventure Riding gives it tough, reliable gear. GreenChiliADV.com."
cyclepump.com is the website mentioned for more information about the tire inflator product. It’s basically where you’d go to check out that gear.
cyclepump.com is referenced as the place to learn more about the Cycle Pump tire inflator product line. It’s a brand/retailer website tied to the earlier Best Rest Products mention.
GreenChiliADV.com
"Adventure Riding gives it tough, reliable gear. GreenChiliADV.com. Hi, this is Cliff Holland from Eustace, Texas, and I haul mobile homes for a living."
GreenChiliADV.com is a website they mention for adventure-riding gear. The host is recommending it as a place to find reliable equipment.
GreenChiliADV.com is mentioned as a source for “tough, reliable gear” for adventure riding. It functions as a brand/retailer callout for rider equipment.
National Rally in Lebanon, Tennessee
"...for his college graduation present last year, we rode out to the National Rally in Lebanon, Tennessee. That was his first ride ever."
They’re talking about a motorcycle event called a “rally” in Lebanon, Tennessee. It’s basically a planned group ride and gathering for riders.
The hosts reference a “National Rally” held in Lebanon, Tennessee. In a motorcycle context, rallies are organized riding events that often include group routes and meetups.
Land Rover Discovery
"...rea down there. Well, BDR came out, the back road discovery routes came out with their Big Bend series, Big ..."
The Land Rover Discovery is a big SUV designed for both regular driving and tougher roads. It’s built to help you travel farther and handle uneven terrain while still being comfortable for passengers. That’s why it can fit well with adventure route planning.
The Land Rover Discovery is a full-size SUV known for its off-road capability and comfort on longer journeys. It’s a common choice for route-based travel because it’s designed to handle rougher roads while still carrying people and gear comfortably. In the podcast context, it’s likely being referenced alongside “discovery routes” and adventure planning for places like Big Bend.
BDR discovery routes
"Well, BDR came out, the back road discovery routes came out with their Big Bend series, Big Bend and Hill Country. And my son is a assistant band director..."
BDR routes are planned adventure riding paths made for motorcycle trips. “Discovery routes” means you’re following one of those curated route options instead of just winging it.
BDR stands for Backcountry Discovery Routes, a set of curated off-road and adventure riding route lines. When riders say they’re using a “BDR discovery route,” they mean following that planned route for navigation and pacing.
luggage
"So I started prepping bikes, buying gear, prepping bikes... I bought a different luggage. A lot of thought went into what we were going to do."
Here “luggage” means the bags/cases you strap onto the motorcycle for a trip. Where and how you pack weight matters because it changes how the bike feels.
In this context, “luggage” refers to motorcycle load-carrying gear like cases and bags used for multi-day trips. On adventure rides, how you pack and distribute weight can strongly affect handling, stability, and comfort.
slab riding
"And you're both we were riding 700, 700 miles of basically slab riding to get to the BDR, the Big Bend BDR that you're going to run."
“Slab riding” just means riding on the big highway/interstate for long stretches. It’s different from twisty backroads because you’re going faster for longer, so loaded bikes can feel different.
“Slab riding” is rider slang for spending long stretches on interstate highways (the “slab” of pavement). It usually means higher speeds and more sustained wind/engine load than backroads, which can expose issues when bikes are heavily loaded.
tent camping
"The rest was all going to be tent camping, basically living off the bikes because it's pretty remote down there."
Tent camping means sleeping in a tent instead of a hotel. On a motorcycle trip, it usually means you have to carry more gear, so packing matters.
Tent camping is the plan to sleep in tents rather than hotels, which increases the amount of gear carried. For motorcycle trips, this usually means more weight and bulk, making packing and securing luggage more critical.
dry bags
"We carry dry bags that he's got a dry bag, I have a dry bag and we put all our camping stuff..."
Dry bags are waterproof bags that roll shut to keep water out. Riders use them so their camping gear stays dry even if the weather turns.
Dry bags are waterproof roll-top bags used on motorcycles to keep gear dry in rain or wet conditions. They’re popular for adventure riding because they seal well and can be strapped down securely.
panniers
"And then we use the panniers for personal items and stuff that we need to get to, maintenance stuff, things like that."
Panniers are the hard or semi-hard cases mounted on the sides of a motorcycle. They’re used for carrying gear, and having them loaded changes how the bike handles.
Panniers are side-mounted storage cases (usually on both sides of the bike) used to carry luggage on touring and adventure motorcycles. They’re important for load planning because they affect center of gravity and can change handling when the bike is fully packed.
Overlander's shoes
"I bought a two gallon water, one of those like the Overlander's shoes that the water jug and gas can that you can affix to the sides and it locks in. Like a Rotopax or something like that."
They’re talking about a mounting setup that lets you attach extra water/fuel containers to the motorcycle. The goal is to keep the load stable and strapped down.
This appears to refer to mounting hardware for overland-style accessory containers (like fuel and water cans) that attach to the bike’s sides. The key idea is that the containers aren’t just carried—they’re mounted to keep weight positioned and secured.
Rotopax
"I bought a 1.75 gas can and a two gallon water jug and had those affixed to my bike. And well, that's a pretty good bit added weight right there. And it were all kind of high because of where I had to put them on the bike and still get all my other gear on. And how do you know how much weight there was? Did you actually weigh it? No, and I had thought about it and I wish I would have, but I did not. So when you arrive, what's your impression of what the trail is and how does it start? Well, you know, just because of having YouTube and a lot of people have already done the big"
Rotopax is a type of rugged container for carrying extra fuel or water. It mounts to the bike so the liquid is strapped down instead of bouncing around.
Rotopax is a brand of modular fuel and water containers that mount to motorcycles (and other vehicles) using brackets. They’re popular for overland travel because they let you carry extra liquids securely without loose jugs.
Jeep only, high clearance, four wheel drive only
"but they're like, it's too late. There's no single track that I know of. But the roads are like, some of them are designated Jeep only, high clearance, four wheel drive only. And, and they go down from there to just regular gravel rock roads that aren't that intense."
Those labels mean the road/trail is rough enough that only more capable off-road vehicles should try it. High clearance and four-wheel drive help you get through ruts, rocks, and uneven ground.
These are trail/road access designations indicating the route is intended for vehicles with higher ground clearance and traction. “Four wheel drive only” implies conditions where two-wheel drive may struggle, and “Jeep only” is a practical way of saying it’s for capable off-road vehicles.
primitive camping
"So when you look at the BDR route, our plan was to get down because you can't reserve primitive camping ahead of time. You have to actually go to the ranger station, check in, and then you can reserve your spots on your primitive camping."
Primitive camping is camping with fewer services and amenities. You usually have to be more self-reliant, and you may still need to check in or reserve a spot.
Primitive camping means camping without typical amenities like developed campsites, hookups, or guaranteed services. In many areas you still need to check in and reserve spots, but the experience is more basic and self-supported.
BDR route
"So when you look at the BDR route, our plan was to get down because you can't reserve primitive camping ahead of time. You have to actually go to the ranger station, check in, and then you can reserve your spots on your primitive camping."
BDR is the name of a motorcycle route in Big Bend that riders follow. It’s useful because it sets expectations for what roads and camping options you’ll deal with.
BDR refers to a specific motorcycle touring route (Big Bend). The “route” framing matters because it determines what kinds of roads/trails you’ll encounter and how planning (like camping logistics) is handled.
wagon wheel road
"So we, like the first night we were going to be on wagon wheel road. And I'd already talked to a guy that had drove his pickup down it and he said it wasn't that bad. So that was going to be our"
Wagon Wheel Road is a specific road segment they planned to ride first. Named roads like this often have a reputation for how rough or technical they are.
Wagon Wheel Road is a specific route segment the riders planned to use for their first night. Mentioning it is useful because certain named roads in Big Bend are known for particular difficulty levels and surface types.
river road loop
"And then the next night we were going to be on river road, which is a big long loop that goes along the real grand between Texas and Mexico."
They’re talking about a long loop ride called “River Road,” which they plan to do over a couple of nights. It’s basically a big planned route you ride in sections.
The hosts describe “river road” as a long loop route that runs along the border region between Texas and Mexico. It’s presented as a multi-night riding plan rather than a technical motorcycle concept.
wing it
"Well, I'll be honest, Jim, I'm not big on details. I'm more of a, hey, let's throw it on their wing it and we're just going to figure it out as we go."
“Wing it” means you don’t plan everything in advance. You make decisions as you go based on what you find when you arrive.
“Wing it” is a planning approach where you don’t lock in every detail ahead of time and instead adapt once you’re on the road. In motorcycle touring, it often means relying on real-time decisions for routes, stops, and lodging.
Ford Explorer
"...checked in, get everything, and we'll go do some explorers on those roads on our way back up to the main roa..."
The Ford Explorer is a larger family SUV made for driving around town and taking longer trips. It has room for people and luggage, which makes it useful when you’re going to explore different roads. That’s why it can be mentioned when planning travel routes.
The Ford Explorer is a midsize SUV built for everyday driving and road trips, with enough space for passengers and gear. It’s often discussed in the context of exploring routes because it can handle long-distance travel and varying road conditions. In a podcast, it may come up as a practical vehicle for getting a group to remote areas and back.
enduro trails
"“I had changed the tires on the bike, enduro trails on the back, kind of big blocks on the front on both bikes.”"
“Enduro trails” means rough off-road paths—usually dirt and rocks—where you need good grip and control. The rider is saying they set up the bike for that kind of terrain.
Enduro trails refer to off-road riding routes and conditions where motorcycles are expected to handle loose surfaces like dirt, rocks, and ruts. In practice, riders choose tires and suspension setups aimed at traction and control on uneven ground.
R 1200 GS
"“Mine is an 09 R 1200 GS. And my son's is a 650 GS, an 09 also.”"
The BMW R 1200 GS is a motorcycle made for adventure riding—meaning it can handle both regular roads and rough dirt trails. In this story, it’s the bike the rider chose because they expected gravel and off-road conditions.
The BMW R 1200 GS is a dual-sport/adventure motorcycle built for long-distance riding and mixed pavement-and-dirt use. Its “GS” identity is strongly associated with off-road capability and touring comfort, which fits the episode’s loaded, gravel-heavy Big Bend route.
loose sand
"“Okay, soon as we turn off the track, and we get in its gravel, rock, some loose sand, loose, you know, loose dirt…”"
Loose sand is sand that doesn’t hold the tire well, so the bike can slip. It usually takes smoother throttle and careful balance to keep moving without losing control.
Loose sand is a low-traction surface where tires can slide and “float,” making it harder to maintain speed and direction. Off-road riders often adjust throttle and body position to keep traction and avoid getting bogged down.
stream crossings
"“…and we couple of little stream crossings. And it was like, man, we are doing it.”"
Stream crossings are when you ride through a shallow creek or water crossing on a trail. It’s tricky because the ground can be slippery and the bike can lose grip.
Stream crossings are off-road obstacles where the bike must travel through shallow water and over uneven, slippery ground. They can affect traction, engine cooling, and the risk of water ingestion depending on how deep and how fast the crossing is.
on the pegs
"“I told my son, I said, this is it. This is what I came for. I'm up on the pegs…”"
“On the pegs” means you’re standing on the bike’s footrests instead of sitting. It helps you absorb bumps and keep better control on rough dirt.
Riding “on the pegs” means standing slightly on the footrests rather than sitting fully in the saddle. This stance improves suspension movement and traction over bumps, helping the bike stay stable on rough terrain like gravel and ruts.
getting off the front end
"And we had talked about getting up on the pegs, getting off the front end, if it got loose and just just going with the bike. And he does great."
This means changing your body position so the front wheel isn’t taking as much weight. It can help the bike feel steadier when the ground is rough or slippery.
“Getting off the front end” describes shifting position so the rider unweights the front wheel, often by standing on the pegs and moving body weight rearward. This can help the bike stay stable when the front end feels like it might get loose or get deflected by terrain.
four wheel drive vehicles only
"And past this parking area, there's a big sign. And it says, let's see, high ground clearance, four wheel drive vehicles only"
Four-wheel drive sends power to all four wheels, which helps the vehicle not slip as easily on dirt, rocks, or mud. The sign is basically saying only those vehicles should go there.
“Four-wheel drive” (4WD) means power is sent to both the front and rear axles, improving traction on loose or uneven surfaces. The sign is restricting access to vehicles that can maintain grip in challenging conditions.
high ground clearance
"And past this parking area, there's a big sign. And it says, let's see, high ground clearance, four wheel drive vehicles only"
Ground clearance is how much space your bike/vehicle has between the bottom and the ground. Higher clearance helps you drive over rough stuff without hitting the bottom.
Ground clearance is the distance between the lowest part of a vehicle and the ground. “High ground clearance” means the vehicle can better handle uneven terrain, rocks, and ruts without scraping the underbody.
under-carriage scraping
"enter at your own risk. Four wheel. So it's saying high ground clearance, not just four wheel drive, [977.4s] high ground clearance. Right. So they give you some indication there's big rocks or ruts or [982.4s] something like that."
Undercarriage scraping is when the bottom of the bike or vehicle hits the ground. More clearance helps you avoid that when you’re crossing rocks or deep ruts.
Scraping the undercarriage happens when a vehicle’s bottom contacts rocks or ruts, usually because the terrain is too uneven for the vehicle’s clearance. The discussion of “high ground clearance” is directly about reducing this risk.
ruts
"high ground clearance. Right. So they give you some indication there's big rocks or ruts or [982.4s] something like that. It's it's probably pretty gnarly."
Ruts are deep tracks in the dirt or rocks made by other vehicles. They can make it harder to steer and can cause your tires to drop into the groove.
Ruts are grooves in the ground—often created by repeated tires or tracks—that can guide a vehicle’s wheels and make steering harder. In off-road terrain, ruts can also increase the risk of getting hung up or damaging suspension.
wash
"And then it dropped down [1050.8s] to where the sign was down into a wash in the bottom and back up. And it looked pretty much [1056.5s] the same as the stuff we'd been riding on."
A wash is like a dry creek channel. Even if it looks dry, the ground can be uneven and rough, and it may be deeper or softer than the surrounding area.
A wash is a dry creek bed or channel that can become muddy or deeply rutted, especially after rain. Riding into a wash often means dealing with loose rock, uneven footing, and sudden depth changes.
erosion
"I mean, you couldn't pass another vehicle on it, [1074.6s] but it's, it's pretty wide. I mean, the road is the erosion, the eroded area you're going to ride [1079.2s] through though."
Erosion is how the ground gets worn down over time. In off-road areas, that can create rough, carved-out paths that are harder to ride than a normal road.
Erosion is the wearing-away of land by water, wind, or repeated vehicle traffic. On off-road routes, erosion often forms channels and uneven surfaces that can make the “road” feel like a trench or obstacle course.
deep sand
"“...soon as I get to the bottom and I feel the front end start to go, I realized that this is sand and not just sand, it's deep sand. And that's where the deep treble started.”"
Deep sand is loose sand that your tires can sink into. When that happens, the bike loses traction—especially in the front—so steering and balance get much harder.
“Deep sand” refers to loose, thick sand that can’t support the tire well, causing it to sink and lose grip. For riders, it often triggers a loss of front-end control because the front tire digs in and the bike can start to “go” or wash out.
adventure riding
"“When you're riding and changing weather, and this is adventure riding, your mid-layer matters more than most people think.”"
Adventure riding means you’re riding farther and often on mixed surfaces, not just smooth roads. Since weather and terrain can change fast, the clothing you wear under your jacket can make a big difference.
Adventure riding is a style of motorcycle touring that mixes on-road travel with off-road or rough-surface riding. Because conditions can change quickly, gear choices—like layers that manage moisture and temperature—matter more than they would on a typical all-pavement ride.
mid-layer
"“...your mid-layer matters more than most people think. And nothing I've tried performs as well...”"
A mid-layer is the warm layer you wear under your jacket. It helps keep you comfortable when the weather changes—especially if you get sweaty or damp.
A mid-layer is the insulating layer worn between your base layer (next to skin) and your outer shell (jacket/outerwear). In variable weather, a good mid-layer helps manage moisture and temperature so you stay warm when damp and avoid overheating.
New Zealand possum
"“...It's made from 20% New Zealand possum for 70% marina wool and 10% silk.”"
This is a natural fiber used in some warm clothing. The idea is that it helps keep you warm and comfortable even when you’re damp from weather or sweat.
New Zealand possum fiber (often marketed as “possum wool”) is a natural textile material used for warmth and moisture handling. In cold or damp riding conditions, it’s valued for insulation and for helping move moisture away from the skin.
Pearly's hugger sweater
"“...nothing I've tried performs as well as my pearly's hugger sweater. It's made from 20% New Zealand possum...”"
Pearly’s hugger sweater is a piece of riding clothing the host recommends for staying warm and comfortable. They’re saying it’s made to work well under a motorcycle jacket, especially when conditions are wet or change.
“Pearly’s hugger sweater” is a motorcycle-focused apparel product being promoted as a warm, moisture-managing mid-layer for riding. The speaker emphasizes its material blend and construction details (like being knitted in one piece) to reduce discomfort under a jacket.
Moto Camp Nerd
"“...A lot of outdoor stores carry outdoor gear, but they're not choosing it from a motorcycle camper's point of view. Moto Camp Nerd is.”"
Moto Camp Nerd is presented as a motorcycle camping store built specifically for riders who camp with their bikes. The host contrasts it with general outdoor stores that may not choose gear with motorcycle campers’ needs in mind (like packing and bike-specific use).
overland travel
"Overland Expo West is coming this May 15th to 17th in Flagstaff, Arizona. And if overland travel is your thing, or maybe you're just getting started in it, this event is worth attending."
Overland travel is basically traveling far away on your own, carrying what you need. On a motorcycle, that usually means bringing gear and planning for rough roads and limited services.
Overland travel is long-distance, self-reliant travel where you carry gear and navigate with minimal dependence on services. In motorcycle terms, it usually means planning for fuel, water, and luggage that can handle rough roads and weather.
side by side
"You can stop guessing online, get your hands on the latest gear, compare options side by side, talk directly with the people behind it..."
“Side by side” here means you can compare gear in person instead of guessing from online photos. That helps you see what actually fits and how well it’s made.
In the context of gear shopping at events, “side by side” refers to comparing products directly in person rather than relying on online descriptions. For riders, this helps evaluate fit, size, and build quality—especially for luggage and camping systems.
camp on site
"And if you really want the full experience, don't just go for the day, immerse yourself in it. Camp on site and be a part of it."
“Camp on site” means you stay where the event is, not just visit for the day. It usually means more time with other riders and more chances to learn and talk.
“Camp on site” means staying at the event location rather than just attending during the day. For overland and adventure events, this typically increases hands-on learning and community interaction after classes end.
dusty
"Yes, he's a good ways behind me because we had spaced out for, because he couldn't see with the, it's real dry down there, real dusty."
When it’s dusty, it’s harder to see where you’re going and where other bikes are. That’s why riders often leave more space between each other.
“Dusty” conditions reduce visibility and can make it harder for riders to see each other’s lines and hazards. In group riding, that often leads to increased spacing so trailing riders can still react safely.
spaced out
"Yes, he's a good ways behind me because we had spaced out for, because he couldn't see with the, it's real dry down there, real dusty."
“Spaced out” means keeping more distance between bikes. On tricky surfaces or in dust, that extra space helps everyone react safely.
“Spaced out” refers to increasing following distance in a group ride. On loose or low-visibility surfaces like sand and dust, extra spacing helps prevent collisions and gives riders time to react if the bike ahead slows, slips, or changes direction.
undulated
"...it wasn't just flat on the bottom. And that's, that's where the trouble started. It undulated. So there was a shelf and then it dropped."
It means the ground isn’t smooth—it goes up and down. When you’re on sand, that kind of uneven surface can make the tires lose grip and make the bike harder to steer.
“Undulated” means the surface rises and falls rather than being flat. In sand riding, an uneven bottom (shelves and drops) changes how the tires load and unload, which can trigger loss of steering control—especially with a loaded bike.
weight off the front end
"Oh, as soon as the front tire, I knew exactly what had happened. And I was already up on the pegs. And I went to get back to get the weight off the front end, because if the bars were trying to turn on me..."
It means moving your body so the front wheel has less weight on it. That can help the front tire stop grabbing the sand and pulling the handlebars around.
This describes shifting rider weight to reduce load on the front tire. In sand, unloading the front can help it regain traction and reduce the tendency to “dig in” and pull the bars.
front tire
"Oh, as soon as the front tire, I knew exactly what had happened... So I just nailed the throttle to try to get the front end up so I don't lose it. ...It tried to turn. I throttled it, got back off the front. It went straight."
The front tire is the part that steers the bike. In sand, if it doesn’t grip well, it can pull the bike off line and make it feel like you’re fighting the steering.
The front tire is the primary steering contact patch on a motorcycle. In sand, if the front tire loses traction or digs in, the handlebars can turn unexpectedly and the rider may need to manage power and body position to regain straight-line control.
throttle
"...my butt hit the dry bag, and I couldn't get the weight off the front. So I just nailed the throttle to try to get the front end up so I don't lose it. Because the only thing I'm thinking is I got to get the front end up so I don't lose it."
The throttle is how you tell the motorcycle to give it more or less power. In sand, power changes can make the bike grip differently, which can cause the front end to wander or straighten out.
In motorcycle riding, the throttle is the rider’s control of engine power. In loose sand, small throttle changes can strongly affect traction and whether the front wheel stays pointed where you want.
handlebar
"...the tire hit that stone because of the angle it was, it turned the handlebar, it whipped the handlebars to the left. And next thing I know, I'm... smacking the ground..."
The handlebar is the part you grip to steer the motorcycle. If it gets jerked sideways during a hit, the bike can suddenly change direction and you can lose control.
The handlebar is the steering control you hold to guide the motorcycle. In a crash, a sudden impact can force the handlebar to turn, which can destabilize the bike and contribute to a fall.
high side
"...You're high side, but because of the angle, the, the wash goes right to left and I go down the left side."
A high-side is a crash where the bike suddenly grabs traction again and kicks the rider up and off the bike. It can happen fast after the tires start sliding.
A high-side crash is when the motorcycle suddenly regains traction after sliding, throwing the rider upward and often ejecting them. The rider describes going down the left side because the bike’s behavior and traction change were driven by the stone’s angle.
full gear
"...we have full gear on, you know, I mean, adventure clothing with the shoulder pads, knee pads, hip pads, gloves, I've got a good helmet on."
“Full gear” refers to wearing protective motorcycle riding equipment from head to toe. Here it includes items like a helmet and armor (shoulder, knee, hip, and a back protector), which can reduce injury severity even if a crash happens.
shoulder pads
"...adventure clothing with the shoulder pads, knee pads, hip pads, gloves, I've got a good helmet on."
Shoulder pads are protective padding on your shoulders. They help protect you if you hit the ground or slide.
Shoulder pads are protective armor that covers the shoulders to reduce injury from impacts and abrasions. In this segment, the rider lists shoulder pads as part of the protective gear used during the crash.
knee pads
"...adventure clothing with the shoulder pads, knee pads, hip pads, gloves, I've got a good helmet on."
Knee pads are protective pads on your knees. They help protect your legs if you land on them or scrape along the ground.
Knee pads are protective armor worn over the knees to reduce injury during falls and slides. The rider includes them as part of the “full gear” that was on during the impact.
hip pads
"...adventure clothing with the shoulder pads, knee pads, hip pads, gloves, I've got a good helmet on."
Hip pads are protective padding for your hips. They help reduce injury when you fall and your body hits the ground.
Hip pads are protective armor that shields the hips and upper pelvis area. The rider mentions them as part of the protective kit used during the crash.
back protector
"...we have all the gear necessary. I think, you know, back protector, I landed the one spot between my, if you were to just put your elbow at your side..."
A back protector is padded armor you wear on your back. It’s meant to protect your spine area if you land hard.
A back protector is armor worn on the back to help absorb impact and reduce the risk of spinal injury. The rider mentions it as part of the protective setup during the fall.
slow motion deal
"He sees what's happening. He's trying to get on the brakes. He ended up with his bike on top of my bike, but it was a slow motion deal because when he hit the sand, he started to lose it"
Sometimes crashes feel like they happen in slow motion. Your brain is trying to understand what’s happening while you’re already losing control.
The speaker describes the crash as feeling like it happened in slow motion. In riding terms, this often happens when your brain is processing impacts and loss of control in real time, even though the event itself is very fast.
helmet
"I told him, I said, just give me a minute. I said, just get my helmet off. So he gets my helmet off and my son looks at me."
A helmet helps protect your head if you crash. Taking it off here sounds like part of checking how they’re feeling after the fall.
A helmet is protective headgear designed to reduce the risk of traumatic brain injury during crashes. The speaker removing the helmet suggests they were trying to relieve pressure and check their condition after impact.
ambulance
"He was 22, he just turned 23 and he said, do I need to call an ambulance? And that was the moment of clarity. I said, son, there's no ambulance coming to get us out here."
An ambulance is the vehicle that brings emergency medical help. They’re saying there wasn’t one close enough to reach them quickly.
An ambulance is emergency medical transport used when injuries may be life-threatening or require urgent care. The speaker’s point is that help was far away, so they had to rely on immediate self-assessment and assistance from others.
checking everything all right
"And they grabbed me by the right arm and got me up. That's when I started assessing everything, not bleeding anywhere. No, nothing like that. No pain in my lower extremities."
After a crash, people often do a quick self-check to see if anything is seriously wrong. They look for bleeding, pain, and whether they can move normally.
The speaker is doing an on-the-spot safety assessment after a crash—checking for bleeding, pain, and whether they can move key body parts. This is a common first-response approach for riders to catch serious injuries early.
gravity increases as we age
"[1850.7s] what it is. There's probably like a 30 year difference there and that will make all the difference. Gravity increases as we age. That's, that's a, what? Yeah, I don't bounce. That's for sure."
They’re basically saying that as you get older, falls and impacts can hurt more and be harder to recover from. Your body doesn’t “handle” the hit the same way it used to.
The hosts are talking about how the effects of gravity and body mechanics change with age. In a crash, that can mean you absorb impacts differently and are less able to recover quickly or brace effectively.
hitting a stone and the front wheel turning
"[1919.6s] And I said, I thought I did too. And that's when, uh, I walked over to where the bike was [1925.5s] and, uh, and I saw the stone. I didn't see it till after the fact and I saw where it had turned it. [1930.5s] You could see where the, uh, the front wheel had hit that stone and turned it. [1933.9s] And yeah, that was all she wrote."
If the front tire hits something like a rock, it can get pushed sideways. That sudden change can make the bike turn unexpectedly and knock the rider off.
This describes a common off-road crash mechanism: a small obstacle (like a stone) can catch the front wheel and cause sudden steering input. When the front end is deflected, the bike can rotate and the rider can be thrown off balance.
riding loaded
"...all the planning, all the, just buying and working on the bikes, getting everything ready to go and just, just me and my son..."
“Riding loaded” means you’re carrying extra weight on the bike, like luggage or gear. That extra weight can make the bike handle and stop differently, especially if something goes wrong.
“Riding loaded” refers to riding a motorcycle with extra weight—commonly luggage, gear, or passengers—affecting handling, braking, and stability. On long trips, that added mass can change how the bike responds in emergencies and can make mistakes more punishing.
sudden stop
"Well, as they say, it's not the fall. It's that sudden stop that is the problem."
A sudden stop is when you go from moving to stopping really fast, like in a crash. Your body keeps moving for a moment, and that quick stop can cause injuries even if the fall itself doesn’t look that bad.
A “sudden stop” is the rapid deceleration that happens when a motorcycle rider is forced to stop quickly—like from a crash or abrupt impact. It’s often more injurious than the initial fall because the body continues moving until it’s violently stopped by the bike, ground, or restraint forces.
downhill side
"[2070.2s] Yeah. Well, if you, if you think of a slope that goes right to left in the handlebars, [2076.3s] the bikes down on the downhill side. So I'm telling you, the tires were up in the air."
They’re describing which way the hill is going. When a bike falls on the downhill side, it can slide and end up in a position that’s much harder to get back upright.
“Downhill side” describes which direction the bike is sliding or falling relative to the slope. Here, the bikes end up on the downhill side, which changes how gravity loads the tires and makes recovery harder.
tires were up in the air
"[2076.3s] the bikes down on the downhill side. So I'm telling you, the tires were up in the air. [2082.4s] Right. The handlebar was, was down. You're basically upside down on the hill is what you are."
They mean the bike tipped so far that the wheels weren’t touching the ground anymore. Once that happens, it’s basically impossible to control or right the bike without help.
This describes a rollover where the bike is effectively upside down relative to the slope. When the tires are off the ground, traction is lost and the rider may be unable to stabilize or steer, making recovery dependent on other people.
undulating sand
"[2100.3s] then hit the sand. So it wasn't just a flat, straight crossing. You know, I think I could [2105.7s] have handled that. It was the, the right to left with undulating sand that was really deep. [2111.7s] I know. Cause I had to ride back through it."
They’re describing sand that isn’t flat—it has bumps and dips. That kind of sand can grab or shift under the tires, so the bike loses grip and gets harder to control, especially on a downhill.
“Undulating sand” refers to uneven, wave-like sand that changes the bike’s contact patch and can cause sudden loss of traction. In deep, shifting sand, the bike can sink, slide sideways, and make it much harder to keep balance on a slope.
planning process
"[2114.4s] Yeah. It doesn't sound like a good place to crash. Why did you choose to crash there? [2117.6s] I mean, why not pick a better spot? [2119.5s] That's part of planning process."
They’re saying this crash wasn’t just bad luck—it’s about how you plan your ride. Good planning means picking safer routes and thinking ahead for what you’ll do if you get stuck or fall.
The hosts are talking about route and risk planning before riding, especially when the terrain is unpredictable. In this context, “planning process” means choosing where you’ll ride, where you’ll stop, and what contingencies you have if something goes wrong.
broke ribs
"[2154.2s] happened by yourself and I know that's happened on other, your deep trouble adventures that [2159.3s] you're really in a pickle. I mean, you've got a problem. You got broke ribs and you can't lift"
They’re saying the rider got injured badly enough to break ribs. That kind of injury makes it much harder to move, lift the bike, or get yourself out of trouble.
“Broke ribs” is a serious injury that directly affects a rider’s ability to recover and continue safely. In a crash scenario, rib injuries can prevent lifting the bike, changing how quickly the rider can self-rescue or signal for help.
tank bag
"...cause you got the tank bag in the front, you got all your gear in the back and you have this little taco space for you to sit in."
A tank bag is a bag that sits on top of (or right by) the gas tank. It holds gear you want to reach easily, but too much weight can make the bike handle differently.
A tank bag is a storage bag mounted on or near the fuel tank of a motorcycle. It’s typically used for quick-access items, and when loaded heavily it can shift the bike’s balance and handling.
standing to control the bike
"Every little bump and dip that you went into that was fun going in becomes a source of pain on the way back out. Yes. And you know, I'm trying to stand because to control the bike going through these... but standing hurts..."
When the road gets rough, riders sometimes stand up on the pegs instead of sitting. It helps you stay balanced and absorb the bumps better.
Standing on the footpegs is a common technique to improve control and reduce the impact of bumps. By shifting your body position, you can let the bike’s suspension work more effectively and keep your balance when the road gets choppy.
main road
"...then we get to the main road and then out to, uh, to tear lingua to get gas."
They’re talking about moving from a smaller road to a bigger, more direct road. That kind of change can make the ride easier or smoother.
“Main road” here contrasts with the earlier smaller, bumpier route. In trip planning, switching to a higher-speed or better-maintained road can change how stressful the ride feels when you’re injured or fatigued.
critters running around
"...it's 5 30. I said, if we're going to have to go, because I don't want to be out here in dark, cause a lot of, a lot of critters running around."
They’re worried about animals being on the road, especially as it gets dark. Hitting an animal is dangerous, and it’s harder to see them at night.
The speaker is concerned about wildlife on the road at dusk or night. In remote areas, animals can appear suddenly, increasing the risk of collisions—especially when visibility drops and you’re already dealing with pain or fatigue.
remote place
"As far as the gear that you carry with you, what would you've been able to do if you were in a more of a remote place? Would you have a way to contact people?"
They’re talking about how being far away from towns or roads changes what happens after an accident. If you can’t call for help right away, you need a backup plan to communicate and get assistance.
The speaker contrasts a remote location with a more accessible one to highlight how distance affects emergency response. In remote areas, you may not have cell coverage, and getting help can take much longer, so planning communication and evacuation matters.
Garmin inReach
"Okay. So we talked about that and I looked into the Garmin in reach before we left, because of your deep trouble series. I mean, Hey, Jim, this is your deep trouble series..."
Garmin inReach is a satellite texting and emergency-sos device. It works even when you can’t get cell phone signal, which can be lifesaving if something goes wrong far from help.
Garmin inReach is a satellite communication device (often paired with a smartphone) that lets you send messages and use SOS when cell service is unavailable. For riders in remote areas, it’s a key way to contact rescuers or loved ones after an accident.
satellite communicator
"Okay. So you've got two iPhones that you're counting on the, the satellite communicator to work. And have you tried that? Yes, we had actually."
A satellite communicator is how you message when your phone has no cell signal. It talks to satellites, but it usually needs the phone pointed/positioned correctly to work.
A satellite communicator is a device or phone feature that uses satellites to send messages when there’s no cellular coverage. It typically supports text messaging and location sharing, and reliability depends on having the right sky visibility and correct pointing.
satellite image
"Because we've been in a remote location where you saw the, uh, in the satellite image pops up on the phone and you have, and it tells you the direction you have to point the phone in order to be able to get service."
When satellite messaging starts, your phone may show a screen that tells you which direction to point it. Pointing it correctly helps it connect to the satellite.
The “satellite image” prompt refers to on-screen guidance that helps you aim your phone toward the satellite to establish a connection. This is a key practical detail for satellite texting reliability in remote areas.
hydration packs
"We were wearing, uh, hydration packs that had water in them. We're going to take just a quick break here, but stick around."
Hydration packs are backpacks that hold water. You can drink through a tube without stopping as often.
Hydration packs are backpacks or vests with a water reservoir and drinking tube, designed to keep water accessible during long rides or hikes. They’re relevant to adventure riding because they reduce the need to stop and handle bottles.
foot peg
"A foot peg is not just a foot peg. I mean, anybody can make a chunk of metal with teeth on it, but IMS products puts real design into theirs. A bigger platform for leverage and control,"
A foot peg is where your boot rests on the bike. Better pegs can help you stay planted and control the bike more easily, especially off-road.
A foot peg is the rider’s standing surface on a motorcycle, used for leverage during off-road riding and for stable body positioning. Peg design (size, shape, and grip) can affect control and comfort when you’re standing or shifting weight.
IMS products
"A foot peg is not just a foot peg. I mean, anybody can make a chunk of metal with teeth on it, but IMS products puts real design into theirs. A bigger platform for leverage and control,"
IMS Products makes aftermarket motorcycle parts, like foot pegs. The host is saying their pegs are designed to work better than a simple metal peg.
IMS Products is a brand that makes motorcycle parts, commonly known for aftermarket foot pegs and related rider-contact components. In the segment, they’re being contrasted with generic pegs to emphasize design and control.
mud relief
"[2699.7s] tooth design that grips without being crazy hard on boots, mud relief so the peg can still work [2705.1s] when things get messy, even built in flexibility in a hard hit to reduce the chance of frame damage."
Mud relief is a design trick that helps keep mud from clogging up the peg. That way, the peg can still grip your boot when the ground is muddy.
“Mud relief” refers to peg design features that help prevent mud from packing up around the traction surface. This keeps the peg usable so it can still grip your boot when conditions are dirty.
built in flexibility
"[2705.1s] when things get messy, even built in flexibility in a hard hit to reduce the chance of frame damage. [2711.9s] Those are just some of the differences."
This means the part is designed to flex a bit instead of taking a hit all at once. That can help protect the bike from getting damaged if you land hard or hit something.
“Built-in flexibility” describes engineered give in a component so it can absorb impact. In this context, it’s meant to reduce the chance of damage to the motorcycle’s frame during a hard hit.
low center gravity
"[2825.3s] I think more so the problem was where the weight, you know, the GS is a really a low center [2830.2s] gravity bike. That's why they handle so well off road."
A “low center of gravity” means the bike’s weight is lower to the ground. That usually makes it feel more stable and easier to control, especially on rough trails.
“Low center of gravity” means the bike’s mass is concentrated lower down, which generally improves stability and reduces how easily it tips. The speaker uses this to explain why the bike handles well off-road—until luggage placement raises the effective weight higher.
tour pack
"[2830.2s] gravity bike. That's why they handle so well off road. But where I had to put the gas can, [2835.3s] I mounted it on the tour pack and then the water can I made on flat on one of the panniers"
A tour pack is a storage box/bag mounted on the back of the bike for road trips. Putting heavy items like a gas can there can make the bike feel top-heavy and harder to handle.
A tour pack is a luggage module mounted to the motorcycle’s rear, typically used to carry gear for longer trips. Here, the speaker says they mounted a gas can on the tour pack, which raised the weight higher than ideal and affected balance.
stood the bike up
"when I stood the bike up, if I was on uneven ground, it was, it was a lift to get it back up to a neutral position."
This means getting the motorcycle upright again after it tips or leans over. If the ground is uneven, it’s harder to balance and lift the bike back safely.
“Standing the bike up” refers to recovering from a tip-over or low-side position back to an upright stance. Doing this on uneven ground is harder because the bike can shift or require more force to regain balance, especially when the bike is loaded.
overloaded
"So I was overloaded, just overloaded. You rode into the sand there. You had trouble in the sand..."
Overloaded means the bike had too much weight on it. In sand, that extra weight can make the tires sink and makes it harder to get moving again.
“Overloaded” indicates the bike was carrying too much weight for the conditions, which can worsen traction and make it harder to recover when the tires sink into soft terrain like sand. Extra load also increases the effort needed to lift the bike back up on uneven ground.
sand instruction
"one thing I, it makes me think of like what sand instruction is what they say about sand instruction is that we're, we're not supposed to be trying to gain speed. We're supposed to be trying to spin the wheel up, you know, to, to keep ourselves moving."
When riding in sand, the goal usually isn’t to “go faster.” Instead, you try to keep the wheels turning smoothly so the bike keeps moving without bogging down or digging in.
The hosts are referencing common off-road riding guidance for sand: instead of trying to accelerate to escape, you focus on keeping the bike moving by spinning the wheels appropriately. In deep sand, too much throttle can cause the tires to dig in and the bike to lose control quickly.
spin the wheel up
"we're supposed to be trying to spin the wheel up, you know, to, to keep ourselves moving. But one of the dangers is we end up getting too much speed and it just makes me wonder if that wasn't one of those times..."
This means getting the tires turning fast enough to keep the bike moving through the sand. But there’s a limit—too much speed can make things worse.
“Spin the wheel up” describes raising wheel speed to maintain forward motion in low-traction conditions like sand. The idea is to keep the tires from bogging down while still avoiding the point where speed and traction loss compound the problem.
hindsight is always 2020
"Well, exactly. I mean, hindsight is always 2020, right? I mean, that's the thing you can look back and say..."
It means you can always think of the better choice after something happens. They’re saying the sand decision felt okay at the time, but looking back they’d do it differently.
This is a proverb meaning that after the fact, it’s easy to see what should have been done differently. In the context of the ride, it frames the decision-making around throttle and speed as something that looked reasonable in the moment but had worse consequences than expected.
hit your head hard
"I'm wondering about when you said you went down, you said you hit your head, you hit your head hard. Yeah, that was the part..."
They’re talking about how the rider’s head hit the ground really hard. Even if you think your body or back would be the worst part, head impacts can be the most serious.
The hosts discuss the consequences of a hard head impact during a fall, emphasizing that head injuries can be the most severe part of a crash even when the rider expects the back or body to take the biggest hit. This highlights why protective gear and fall management matter in off-road riding.
neck braces
"And of course, this is the reason for air vests, right? And neck braces, which I'm assuming you had neither. Neither. And you know, I've, I had thought about, I had looked into air vests before we left on the trip and just didn't pull the trigger on it... the neck braces designed specifically for the reason of our head flopping around."
A neck brace is gear that helps keep your head and neck from moving too much in a crash. It can help prevent the kind of jerking that can injure your neck.
Neck braces are protective devices worn on a motorcycle to limit excessive head and neck motion during a crash. They’re designed to reduce the risk of serious neck injuries, especially when the helmet and head “flop” forward or sideways.
air vests
"And of course, this is the reason for air vests, right? And neck braces, which I'm assuming you had neither. Neither. And you know, I've, I had thought about, I had looked into air vests before we left on the trip and just didn't pull the trigger on it."
An air vest is a special motorcycle jacket/vest that inflates like a cushion when you crash. It’s meant to protect your chest and ribs and reduce how much your body gets jolted.
Air vests are motorcycle protective garments that inflate rapidly during a crash. They help reduce injury by adding impact protection and limiting how far the rider’s torso can move.
head flopping
"the neck braces designed specifically for the reason of our head flopping around. I know when we had Dr. Lee, it on here talking about the, the, what happens to the head, your head will actually go down where your, your chin drives into your chest."
“Head flopping” means your head moves around in a crash instead of staying stable. Neck braces are meant to stop that kind of sudden, uncontrolled movement.
“Head flopping” describes uncontrolled head movement during a crash, where the rider’s head can drop forward and the helmet/neck alignment changes abruptly. This is why neck braces are used—to limit that motion and reduce injury risk.
clear an obstacle
"And this is something you would see a lot when you ride with groups is someone not waiting for another person to clear an obstacle before they actually start to go at the obstacle... we want to wait till the person in front of you clears the obstacle. You know, they're done, right? They're, they're out of the way before you go into it."
When riding in a group, you should wait your turn at obstacles. If you start before the rider ahead is fully through, you can end up crashing too—especially on hills or rough terrain.
The transcript describes a group-riding safety principle: riders should wait until the person ahead has fully cleared an obstacle before attempting it. Failing to do so can create a “domino” chain of crashes when multiple bikes enter the same hazard at once.
keeping the gap
"And that's why, keeping the gap, keeping a distance that you can see. And also, yeah, I think that would have helped a lot."
It means you don’t ride right on the tail of the rider in front. You leave extra room so if they hit a problem, you can react without crashing into them too.
“Keeping the gap” means leaving enough space between riders so you have time to react if the person ahead slows, hits trouble, or changes lines. In loose terrain, that spacing helps prevent a crash from turning into a chain reaction.
speed kills
"And that's the thing, speed kills. That's what they always say, right? And because coming back through the wash, yeah, if I would have done it at that speed, the bike would have fallen over."
The faster you go, the less time you have to react if the surface gets slippery. In sand, that can make the bike tip over before you can correct it.
“Speed kills” is a safety principle: higher speed reduces your reaction time and increases the forces acting on the bike when traction drops. In sand or a wash, going too fast can cause the front end to lose grip and the bike to fall.
hit the sand
"And yeah, hindsight being was the first time I hit the sand, what I probably should have done is just got completely out of it, fought the wheel and let it get slow and then assessed."
It means the tires suddenly roll onto loose sand. The bike can start sliding and feel hard to steer, so you usually need to slow down and stabilize it.
“Hit the sand” describes suddenly entering loose sand, which can cause immediate loss of traction and steering control. Riders often need to slow down, keep the bike stable, and adjust body position to regain control.
fought the wheel
"...what I probably should have done is just got completely out of it, fought the wheel and let it get slow and then assessed."
When the front tire starts sliding, the bike may try to turn on its own. “Fighting the wheel” means you’re working to keep it pointed straight while you slow down.
“Fought the wheel” refers to actively countering the bike’s tendency to steer or wobble when traction is inconsistent (like in sand). The goal is to keep the front end pointed where you want to go while you reduce speed and regain stability.
momentum
"And this is one thing like momentum is something like momentum. You definitely want to use momentum. You want to treat that as your friend. But speed is often the thing that makes it a problem for us."
Momentum just means the bike is already moving, so it’s easier to keep moving in a certain way than to stop and start. The idea is to use that motion to help you, not to rely on speed.
Momentum is the motorcycle’s “moving mass” effect—how hard it is to change its motion once it’s already rolling. In off-road or recovery situations, using momentum can help you reposition without fighting the bike’s weight directly.
boxer engines
"One quick way is to turn the bike around on the ground before you try and pick it up, if possible, with the boxer engines, of course, with the cylinders sticking out, it makes it easier."
A boxer engine is a type of engine where the cylinders move opposite each other side-to-side. On many boxer motorcycles, the cylinder heads stick out, which can make it easier to grip or maneuver the bike when you’re trying to turn it around.
A boxer engine is a motorcycle engine layout where opposing cylinders move in and out horizontally, like two fists. The layout often leaves cylinders sticking out on the sides, which can affect how the bike can be rolled or righted during a recovery.
crash bar
"If you've got a crash bar, you can literally spin the bike around, then you're picking it up in the right direction."
A crash bar is a metal guard that helps protect the bike if it tips over. Here, it’s also being used like a grip point so you can spin the motorcycle around more safely.
A crash bar is a protective frame component mounted to the motorcycle to help shield the engine and bodywork in a fall. In a recovery scenario, it can also provide a solid handhold or leverage point to rotate the bike into the right orientation.
rider skills program
"That's an easy maneuver that Clinton Smout has walked through on a rider skills program before. Wow, I didn't even, I didn't hear that series. Why didn't I hear that show?"
A rider skills program is training that teaches you what to do when things go wrong—like how to reposition and lift your bike safely. The point here is that there’s a technique you can practice so recovery is easier.
A rider skills program is structured training that teaches practical techniques for handling bikes in real-world situations, including low-speed control and recovery after a tip-over. The segment references a specific instructor’s method for turning the bike to improve leverage before lifting.
front wheel has traction
"Clinton will say if the front wheel has traction, use the front wheel to walk itself around. In other words, turn the front wheels if you're driving that front wheel around to drag the motorcycle around in a circle and get yourself in the best possible position."
Traction means the tire isn’t slipping on the ground. If the front wheel grips, you can turn it and use that grip to rotate the bike into the right position before you stand it up.
Traction is the grip between the tire and the surface. If the front wheel has traction, you can steer/rotate the motorcycle by using the front wheel to “walk” the bike around, which helps you get into a safer lifting position.
adrenaline
"...time enough to let that adrenaline run down. And so we can really assess things, say, what's the wisest thing?"
Adrenaline is the body’s “fight-or-flight” chemical. When it kicks in, you can feel panicked or move too fast, so it helps to pause and think before acting.
Adrenaline is a stress hormone that ramps up your alertness and urgency during danger. The hosts are pointing out that when adrenaline is high, decision-making can get rushed, which can lead to riskier choices during a breakdown or crash recovery.
riding the bike loaded
"...rather than risking something else happening to ride the bike loaded, you know, is a lot more work than to ride it with no load and have everyone just to hump the gear over."
“Loaded” just means the bike has extra stuff on it, like bags or gear. When a motorcycle is heavier, it can be harder to move around and harder to deal with problems safely.
“Riding loaded” means the motorcycle is carrying extra weight—like luggage, camping gear, or other cargo. That extra mass changes how the bike handles and how difficult it is to maneuver or recover when something goes wrong.
unloaded the bike
"...it would have made you could have unloaded the bike there with us on its side. Yeah, definitely before you made it a lot easier before you picked it up. I mean, you can get half of it off."
“Unloading” means taking the bags/gear off the motorcycle. With less weight, it’s easier to move the bike and safer to handle during a recovery.
“Unloading” the motorcycle means removing cargo so the bike is lighter and easier to stabilize, lift, or reposition. In off-road or recovery situations, reducing weight can significantly improve control and reduce the effort needed to get the bike back into a safe orientation.
emergency stuff
"telling your riding partners where your emergency stuff is, I think is just so important."
“Emergency stuff” means the gear you might need right away if something goes wrong, like first-aid or tools. The big idea is to keep it easy to grab so you’re not digging through bags.
In this context, “emergency stuff” refers to critical roadside or survival items carried on the bike for breakdowns or injuries. The key point is accessibility—being able to reach it quickly without unloading luggage.
unload the bike and go ride the bike
"So number one, unload the bike and go ride the bike and get a feel for it before you load it and try to ride it."
They’re saying: ride the bike once without your heavy gear first, so you know how it handles. Then add the load and see how much it changes before you head out.
This is about testing handling in an unloaded state before adding luggage weight. Motorcycle balance, steering feel, and traction can change significantly when loaded, so riders should confirm the bike behaves predictably before committing to a route.
margin for error
"And that would have gave us, I think more confidence and more just more knowledge of it. Yeah, margin for error in the areas we were going to be riding."
“Margin for error” means how forgiving the situation is if something doesn’t go as planned. When you’re loaded and riding rough terrain, you have less room for mistakes.
“Margin for error” here means how much room there is for mistakes or unexpected conditions during a ride. With loaded bikes and unfamiliar terrain, that margin shrinks—so planning and practice matter to avoid getting into situations you can’t recover from.
700 miles
"If we could have gotten a weekend off and just done a weekend trip with our gear and maybe done some practicing before we went down there, I mean, you know, 700 miles is a long way to go to find out this didn't work."
They mention “700 miles” to show how far you are from help. If something goes wrong, you can’t easily turn back or fix it quickly.
In trip-planning terms, “700 miles” highlights how far riders are from help if gear or loading choices don’t work. Longer distances increase the consequences of discovering problems late.
shake down trips
"You know, a lot of people today shake down trips. I'm a firm believer in it. I think it's one of the best things that you can do is go out and try it on smaller cases where it's much easier and there's less at risk."
A “shake down trip” is a short, lower-risk test ride with your full setup (gear, luggage, and riding plan) before a bigger adventure. It helps reveal problems like poor packing choices, handling changes from weight, or missing gear before you’re far from help.
big adventure bike
"“there's this place down in Austin and they'll teach you how to ride your big adventure bike off road… I can handle a 350 or 450 in dirt rock… These are a whole different animal when it comes to offroading with them.”"
A “big adventure bike” is a larger motorcycle meant for both highway travel and dirt trails. Because it’s heavier than a dirt bike, you have to ride it differently off pavement.
A “big adventure bike” is a large, dual-sport style motorcycle built for long-distance travel and capable off-road riding. Compared with smaller dirt bikes, they’re heavier and require different technique—especially when traction is limited or terrain is uneven.
off road
"“there's this place down in Austin and they'll teach you how to ride your big adventure bike off road. That's just so important, isn't it?”"
“Off road” just means riding where the road isn’t paved. Dirt, sand, and rocks make the bike handle differently than on regular streets.
“Off road” means riding on surfaces that aren’t paved—like dirt, gravel, sand, or rocky trails. On big adventure motorcycles, the bike’s weight, traction, and braking behavior change a lot compared with pavement.
pavement
"“They're buying these big adventure bikes. They're throwing all the gear on them and they're taking off and they're most of them will never get it off pavement.”"
“Pavement” means paved roads like asphalt. The point here is that off-road riding takes different skills than just riding on paved streets.
“Pavement” is paved road surface (as opposed to dirt or gravel). The episode contrasts riders who buy big adventure bikes but never leave pavement, highlighting that off-road riding skills are a separate challenge.
dirt rock
"“I can handle a 350 or 450 in dirt rock. I mean, I'm not scared to ride one anywhere.”"
“Dirt rock” means riding on a mix of dirt and rocks. Rocks and loose ground can make it harder for the tires to grip.
“Dirt rock” refers to mixed off-road surfaces with loose soil and exposed rock. These conditions can reduce traction and make the bike’s suspension and tires work harder than on smoother dirt.
speed amplifies everything
"And for me, what you've told me, I think it's important for all of us to remember that speed, speed amplifies everything and it will certainly amplify injuries regardless of the bike being light or heavy."
Going faster doesn’t just make riding harder—it also makes crashes worse. If something goes wrong, you have less time to react and the impact can hurt more.
The hosts are emphasizing that higher speed increases the severity of crashes. Even if a motorcycle is “light or heavy,” the physics of impact and loss of control happen faster at speed, leading to more serious injuries.
hit the brakes
"And as soon as I saw sand, I would have just hit the brakes and said, if we fall over, we'll live to fight another day."
When the road gets slippery (like sand), braking can help you slow down before you lose control. The key is doing it in a controlled way so the bike doesn’t skid.
They’re describing emergency braking as an immediate response when traction is compromised. On loose surfaces like sand, braking can help slow the bike before a fall, but it also requires careful control to avoid locking up or sliding.
Deep Trouble series
"Jim, thank you for all you do because the program that you have, and especially the Deep Trouble series, and also the instructional sections you have with Clinton..."
“Deep Trouble” is the show’s recurring learning segment. It takes real rider stories and turns them into tips so you can avoid similar mistakes.
This refers to a recurring instructional segment/series on the show focused on learning from real riding mistakes and near-misses. The episode uses a rider’s story to extract practical lessons for other riders.
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