DEEP TROUBLE: Runaway Motorcycle on a Costa Rica Mountain Road

One of the most frightening things that can happen to you while driving a vehicle is

being part way down a long steep mountain road with switchbacks and realizing that you

can't slow down.

I mean, that would be terrifying in a car or truck.

They've got four wheels, a steep belt and a cage around you and airbags.

Now put yourself on a motorcycle in that situation, a rented motorcycle in a foreign

country.

It isn't your bike.

You don't know the bike as well as you know your own bike, the controls, the way it feels.

And there you are, hands gripped on the handlebars, tightening ever so tight, the road is dropping

away in front of you, the surface is loose, the corners are blind and the bike is literally

running away with you.

Your speed keeps building and your options quickly disappear.

And at that point, you're not thinking about riding anymore.

You're looking ahead, trying to figure out how much longer you could hold on while you

search for some way, some place, some idea to get the things stopped.

But as the speed increases, this question changes again.

Suddenly you know you're not going to stop it.

There is no safe way to bring this motorcycle to a stop.

You are going to crash.

So where can you crash and have the best chance?

That is where Seth Cooper found himself in Costa Rica.

Now he's an experienced rider, grew up riding the dirt, he knows motorcycles.

But on this day, on a rented bike, on a steep mountain road with switchbacks,

things narrowed down until there were no good choices left.

That's what makes this such an interesting deep trouble episode.

The story matters because of how Seth got there, because of the small things that we

can accept without realizing what they add up to in the end.

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Today we have another of our deep trouble series.

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On this episode, Seth Cooper finds himself riding a nightmare stuck on a runaway motorcycle

on a steep mountain road with switchbacks wondering how it will come to an end.

My name is Seth Cooper. I am currently bouncing back and forth from between Costa Rica and New York,

trying to live and make the transition to live in Costa Rica.

I have a dog care business, which is my primary source of income here.

Dabble on a few other things.

Let's begin with how you ride and what you ride at home.

I mean, I grew up in the dirt. My first bike was I think a 74 Yamaha TY80,

which was technically a trials bike when they still had seats.

But yeah, over the years, I've tried to stay in the dirt as much as possible.

I rode enduro motocross type bikes until probably my early 20s when I realized that

I could see a lot more. I currently have an older 2001 640 and a 2023 1290 Super Adventure R.

Well, let's talk about this trip to Costa Rica. So what was this and what was your plan?

We've been transitioning for like, I would say the last year and a half,

trying to get settled down there, get everything set up.

Transitioning because you've bought a property down there and you're...

Yeah. Yeah. Transitioning our lives. Yeah. From the US to there and still having a lot of

obligations back here in the US. And because of that, I hadn't been on a bike that much

for the previous 18 months and my wife needed to head back to the US for some dental work.

I thought, you know, I'm not too busy now. This is a perfect opportunity for me to,

you know, go explore for a few days. So yeah, I arranged a rental from a company I was familiar

with. And so the reason why I chose this bike, there's a little town called Drake Bay down on

the Southern Pacific coast. And there's only two ways to get there. There's a road that's very

seasonal because I think there's seven or eight river or creek crossings, which is impossible

during the rainy season. The other way to get out there is on a ferry. So I was going to take

the opportunity since it was dry season to finally ride out there. This bike was almost 10 years

old. What is the bike? It was a 2017 KTM 690 Enduro R. I figured if doing all these creek

crossings and pretty rough road, if I drop the bike, it's already been dropped probably and well

used. So it's not going to be the end of the world if I put a couple of scratches on it.

So when did things start to go wrong for you? I guess pretty much right away.

I wasn't seeing it that way at the time, but yeah, like I said, I had arrived at my schedule,

you know, a few minutes before my schedule pickup time. When I arrived, the mechanic told me that

the bike had to be had to go to the dealership to have the have the sprockets in the chain replaced.

He showed me some photos. He said the person who rented it before me had really thrashed it

and rounded off the teeth on the sprocket. So he told me 20 minutes and after about 20 minutes,

I started getting geared up. The bike still hadn't arrived and, you know, time kept passing and I was

really uncomfortable. I wasn't sure whether just to start stripping out of my gear.

In Costa Rica, it's typical to kind of be a little, not necessarily timely. Time is just

an appointment. Time is just kind of a suggestion. So it was one of those situations and when the

bike finally showed up, they had a few more things to do and, you know, I noticed that the rear fender

was zip tied together and of course the rear tire being, you know, maybe at 5% life left in it.

It's worn out. Yeah, I was, I mean, I think it almost had a solid center contact patch,

but, you know, I'm notorious for getting every possible mile out of tires. So it wasn't like,

it wasn't a deal breaker for me at all, especially given the fact that I was this anxious to get

this whole thing started. So yeah. And then when I, I noticed, I noticed a couple of things

immediately with the bike that weren't ideal. You know, so I started out and I noticed a few

more things like the dash wasn't registering my speed. Just had zeros across it. The check engine

light was on. I thought I felt the rear bearing like starting to get, when I was on the highway,

getting a, you know, getting a little loose. And then I had to, because it had a new chain,

a new final drive on it. After, by the time I had gotten back down to my, to the town where I live,

the chain had stretched quite a bit. And so I just stopped by a local motor shop in the town there

and had them tighten it up. And they also verified that the, you know, that the wheel, one of the

wheel bearings was getting pretty loose. What else? The hand guard. Yeah. One of the hand guards was

the right side hand guard was missing. It was the full hand guard on the left side with the,

with the bar and the plastic on the right side. It was just the inside bracket was there, but

nothing else. Is there a reason that you would look at this bike in the condition that you're

describing and think, yeah, it's okay, you know, for the money I paid, I'm fine. Or is it just,

this is the way it is in, in Costa Rica or? Yeah, you know, I've, I've given that a lot of thought

like why, like, cause this was all avoidable. This is totally avoidable. I'm not even, I'm not

even trying to like put blame on you and say that you're anything is this before we even hear the

story. But I'm just sort of curious of why you would look at this bike and think, ah, whatever,

I'm going to, or you just feel like you want your vacation, you're going to make the best of it.

Yes. I mean, maybe a combination of things. I wasn't really too concerned because I was going

to try to get into some, you know, to some rough stuff with the bike. Oh, I see. So you figure,

in a way, the bike is kind of appropriate. Yeah, I see. I had purchased, you know, I had

requested because most of the like auto and motorcycle insurance policies and that

insurance is I think largely a state agency for the mandatory mandatory insurance. You can buy

private insurance if you want like comprehensive coverage or extra coverage or whatever, but

most of these policies do not cover theft. So I usually will add that on to the policy and

which, you know, I did this time as well. And, you know, I told the owner of the rental company,

you know, what my destination was and, you know, that I wanted, you know, a little extra insurance,

you know, just in case anything was to go wrong. What happened when you rode away?

Because they were late getting the bike. It was just too late in the day to get to my destination

before dark. So I kind of started to have having to adjust my plan. After that, I planned a different

ride for the, like, you know, just like a short 50 mile loop local to my place for the next day.

And that's when everything went wrong. What is this 50 mile loop talk about? Like describe it?

Okay. So, so my place is on the Pacific coast, about 500 feet above sea level. And

this whole mountain side is, is just dirt roads and in the area where I live. And I had just kind

of mapped out a route through one of the towns up on the side of the mountain that I had wanted

to check out. So I was going to go south down the coast up the mountain across and then back down

the mountain and back home. So this is no longer the route that you plan with the water crossings

and the, exactly. Yeah, this is, yeah, this was like totally, totally improvised. I had no idea

really what to expect. I mean, I did somewhat, but, but 80% of this route, I'd never, I'd never

seen it before. So you're just enjoying riding a bike? Yeah, absolutely. That's right. So what

happens next? So I set out, I set out to do this loop and you know, the road up the mountain

was a lot. I mean, it wasn't anything that I couldn't handle, but it was, you know, it was,

I would, I'm estimating here, but I would say from sea level to where I got to almost 10,000 feet

up that increase in elevation occurs over like five or six miles. So it's a very,

very steep climb. It's hairpin, switchbacks, livestock running around loose, like a very

rural agricultural area on the side of a mountain. So I made it, I made it to the top where I was

downshift. And you know, I thought I just missed it and I tried again, but just hit air.

And I, you know, I slowed down and looked down and the, and the gear shifter was just hanging

there on the, on the shaft. And so I pulled over to check this out and the set screw had backed

out a little bit. And you know, I looked at it and I was like, yeah, this is an easy repair.

And I pulled the seat off the bike and I was like, oh no, where's the toolkit?

The toolkit was missing. So that was another issue with the bike as well, I suppose.

So at that point, I knew I couldn't keep going. The bike was in third gear when this happened.

I mean, I could have jammed it down into first, but I didn't want to, you know,

I didn't want to damage the shaft because I had passed a repair shop down on the coastal road

right before I started up the mountain. And I, you know, my plan was to hobble the bike back to

that repair shop where they would certainly have tools and, you know, they could, you know,

correct this problem in 10 or 15 minutes and I'd be right back at it. So, so I decided, you know,

to try to, to try to get the bike down, back down. So you're going to turn around,

you're going to ride the bike back down. Now, when you said the hill is steep,

how steep is this? How could you describe it? Like in other words, if you're standing on the hill,

if you were going to walk down the hill, would you feel yourself leaning backwards? Is that

sort of steepness? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I would say some of these slopes were

comparable to like a black diamond ski slope. Wow. Okay. So these are the types of slopes that if

you stop on the bike and you sit there with the front brake on, it's going to start to slide.

Oh yeah. Oh wow. Oh yeah. I don't know much about like commercial trucks. It's not uncommon to see

like a tri-axle dump truck that's made a delivery up one of these hills and their brakes fail

coming back down and there'll be, you know, a big ball of crushed steel somewhere on the side of

the mountain. Oh jeez. I mean, not super common, but you know, I've seen it a handful of times and,

and that's too many. Right. So yeah, I mean, extremely steep slopes and, you know, S curves

all the way. Right. So you worked getting up there. Yeah. Yeah. It was a little, it was,

it was a little bit work. There's, I'm not sure if this is like a nickname for the road or it's

just the name of the development up this mountain, but it's a stairway to the stars.

That's appropriate, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So would you say, would you think about

riding back down now? You know, you have a shifter issue. Are there, are there any other

issues with the bikes that you have to deal with? Only the things that I've mentioned up to that

point. I see. I started, I started, you know, rolling down, covering the clutch and the front brake.

When I came to the first steep, very steep, like descent and I decided, you know, I was going to,

you know, just hop off the bike and, you know, try to walk it, walk it down that first steep section.

So, so I, you know, I killed the engine. I got off the bike and I was, you know,

I was creeping down, but the, the back tire being in the condition that it was would start to slide

and the, in the, in the chassis of the bike would, would rotate on the, on the triple clamp.

You know, I had the handlebars in my hand walking it, but the back of the bike would like swing,

would, would swing around because of the tires basically because the tire was, I mean,

mostly because the hill was so steep, but yeah, the, the condition of the tire definitely didn't

help, helping that. So, so when that was happening, I got into a position where I

couldn't really hold the bike up any longer without kind of like having my arm twisted

in an awkward position. I, you know, I dropped it and because the right hand guard was missing,

I snapped off the front brake lever. So yeah, that's, you know, that's definitely not ideal

because I'm just getting started out. I, I decided, you know, I decided to keep going.

So, you know, I, when I would come to a very steep section, I would, you know,

usually try to get off the bike and, and kind of work it down, you know, just using the engine

braking, just, you know, releasing the clutch while I was walking into.

Right. You're just slipping the clutch as a, as a brake. And is it in third gear still?

No, when I dropped it and broke the, broke the front brake lever off,

I was able to manipulate it down into second. And, you know, I was, I was still, I was still

hesitant about, about messing with that because I, you know, I didn't want to damage that,

I didn't want to damage that shaft. My whole, I was still, I was still determined to get that

bike to the shop and, and get it repaired and, and, you know, finish this loop.

So at this point, like there were some less steep sections at which time I would get,

I would just, you know, hop on the bike and try to keep my speed down.

I was covering the rear brake quite a bit, which ultimately heated it up to the point where

it failed on me. So, so yeah, I was, I was made pretty good progress. I got about halfway down

the mountain and I was back on the bike, just coasting, coasting, trying to, trying to, you

know, very conscious of the condition of the bike and definitely making sure that I wasn't

picking up too much speed and I was keeping it manageable. But then all of a sudden I came

around this corner and there was, it was steeper, one of the steeper sections again and,

and I, at this, at that point I didn't realize that, you know, that the, that the brake fluid

had overheated on the, in the rear and I, you know, I started picking up way more speed than I

comfortable with and I smashed the rear brake and it went flat and that instantaneously I,

I realized, you know, the dire situation that I was in.

You're on a runaway bike down here. I'm on a runaway bike.

And so you're in second gear, you have no brakes now. What were you feeling when you stepped on

that brake, when you hit that part and you could feel it start to pick up or maybe you

just see that it's dropping off quickly and you step on that rear brake and it's not there.

Pretty much instant panic. Yeah. I mean,

this, like, I mean, these rows are cut out of the side of a mountain. So on the inside,

you have like a dirt bank. I mean, there may be drainage ditches and other storm water control

mechanisms along the side of the, on the inside of the road where the, where the dirt bank is,

but you know, there's still a dirt bank there on the outside. It's the side of the mountain.

It's, it's generally a pretty severe drop off. So panic. I panicked. I thought maybe I could

ride it out a little bit and maybe it would flatten out and I could, I was just kind of like looking

for anything. And let's see, like, so the first, the first thing I did, I just, I just kept pumping

the brake. Oh, I killed the engine. engine, killed the switch and I kept pumping the

brake, but the bike had so much momentum. You know, the bike's in second gear and it feels

like it wants to start. You can hear, you know, you can hear it trying to like, it sounds like it

wants to start. And I mean, I don't know if that can cause damage to your, to your motor, but I just

had never had that in all the years that I've been on bike. I've never had anything like that happen.

Like you think it was firing. It sounded like it was trying to fire.

I was trying to fire. Yeah, absolutely. Even though, you know, even though the kill switch was off,

you know, second gear could do nothing to slow this bike down. I was just gaining speed, gaining

speed. And I don't know how I made it through like, like the first really sharp corners.

Um, you know, like I literally flat track the bike like through these first two or three sharp

curves and, you know, every time expecting to go down because I mean, I'm not a, I've never

learned those techniques, but I don't know if this somehow, somehow came to me and I, and I, I mean,

I had a good minute and a half, two minutes being on this runaway bike, you know, to think about

what the likely consequences were. And I mean, yeah, I thought that I, you know, I was, I thought

this could be it. Did you put your foot down? Yeah. So while I was pumping, pumping the rear

brake with my right foot, not being able to figure anything else out to slow the bike down,

I started digging my left foot into the, into the road surface, um,

you know, trying to scrub off some speed that way, which, you know, was useless. I mean,

I just ended up peeling the sole right off of my, my Moto boot.

It peeled the sole off. These are quality boots. Yeah. Relatively new. These are Leot,

um, like a 4.5 or a five or something. Yeah. Yeah. They're the 4.5, uh, 80 V boot.

Well, Leot makes amazing gear. So I mean, to destroy it, it kind of gives you an idea of

what sort of pressures or what sort of forces are involved here.

Yeah. I mean, I didn't peel it completely off, but like all the way back, I mean,

it peeled it all the way to the, to the, you know, to the back of the ball of my foot.

So only the heel part was still attached to the boot once this was all said and done.

So you really are flat track because that's what flat track is.

It's flat track is they step the back end out and they're putting a,

like a steel shod shoe down and sliding it along steel because it's going to do just that.

It's going to rip it apart otherwise. So you really, like you're booting it. You're out of control.

Out of control. I mean, no, you're holding it.

I mean, the only control, the only control that I had was,

was the fact that my hands were on the handlebars and I could steer that I could steer.

That's it. And you're upright still at that point. Yeah. And I'm upright.

I mean, it's, it's, it's amazing all the thoughts the human mind can process when you're,

when you're adrenaline's like that and when you're in panic mode and like, yeah, this

like so many things just, you know, hit hit all at once in a short time.

Yeah. Because, you know, I, I had in some way, I guess I had come to terms with the fact that I

wasn't going to be walking away from this. I mean, because obviously I had no way to know exactly

what my speed was, but, but I have a pretty good sense. And I would estimate that I was,

that the bike was going 60, 65 miles an hour when, when I made the decision to bail.

Now you, so you're holding onto this bike, it's gaining speed on you all the time.

You know, you're not, you don't have much longer before the thing's probably going to

high side on you, or you're going to go sailing off the, off the side of the mountain.

When you say you decided to bail, what does that, what does that look like in your mind

at the time, bailing? Finding a soft spot to aim the bike at and

try to come off in a way that, that wasn't going to destroy my body. And, and I mean,

to be honest, I mean, I, I guess I've considered these things having, you know,

been a rider for so many years, but, but yeah, I mean, like trying to find the least

the spot where, you know, the, to minimize, you know, the consequences, I suppose,

because what was coming up ahead of me, I had to make, make a choice.

It was another very sharp left switchback turn on a, another very steep section of the mountain.

And like I was, I knew, I knew I couldn't, I wasn't going to be able to steer through it,

even using the techniques that I had done, you know, substantially slower speed before, but

yeah, this didn't, this, this, this didn't feel like it was possible.

And I thought, you know, maybe I could low side into this corner because I, you know,

I have intentionally low-sided, you know, bikes in the dirt, a handful of times.

That first, that seemed like my best option, but I was like, the outside of this curve is a drop-off

that I have no idea like how far down it goes or, I mean, it's,

I just have to assume certain death if I went over the side of this, you know,

if I went off the side of the mountain, that's this particular spot.

Well, when you say bail, I was thinking that you're thinking of actually jumping off the bike,

you know, sort of like, I'm not even sure how you do that, but low-siding maybe.

But when you're saying you're looking for a soft spot on the side of the road,

as soon as you just said it, I started running through my mind.

What was the last time I saw a soft spot off the side of a road?

Yeah, nothing soft when you're, when you're going that fast, but I was just like,

trying to find like the most ideal, like something that you look, you know,

look like there might be a, just like maybe like a pile of dirt with no jagged rocks or,

yeah, but I mean, just when you describe that, it tells me how, how dire the situation is.

And you're looking for something on the side of the road that's going to cause you the least

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And even just me listening to it, I could feel my gut tighten,

imagining what that must have felt like.

Yeah, it was, it was quite overwhelming. And ultimately, like I just had to,

I had to get off, I had to stop. I, I couldn't, I couldn't take it anymore.

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Like I was coming up on this on this, on this switchback curve really fast and

and you know, it took me a couple seconds to realize that, you know, that I wasn't

like getting through, getting through this corner was the worst choice that I can make

at this point. So I just kind of aim the bike at an angle towards the dirt bank on the inside of

the road and just kind of loosened up my grip on the handlebars and prayed for the best.

What did you think was going to happen there? What were you anticipating?

You know, I thought I could, I thought of, you know, my angle was right. I could, I could get,

I mean, there's not really a shoulder. I thought I could get into the ditch and maybe slow the

bike down enough where I could, you know, I could come off of it at a much more slower rate of speed

and. Right. Yeah. So there's a bit of a ditch there and you're going to use that to your advantage.

Right. Which sounds like, like the only choice really.

Yeah. I mean, I, you know, headed myself here, but I drove back up to the spot of the accident,

the scene of the accident about a week and a half later and, and yeah, like it was even worse than

and then what I had remembered in terms of what my choices were and that situation because

yeah, the inside was, so whatever was there was, was, I had no choice. It was just.

So you aimed for the ditch, but you didn't find what you were counting on?

Not at all. The rainy season down in Costa Rica is pretty severe. So, you know, they're always,

especially on these steep grades, they're, they're always, they're always fighting against

mother nature to keep these roads passable for at least a four by four, you know, vehicle.

You mean because the water runoff is so. Yeah. Just because of the erosion and the,

and the heavy rains will just destroy some of these roads. I mean, it's not uncommon at all

for there to be sections of these like more underutilized rural roads to be closed or

impassable for long periods of time. And so a crew can get there to make the repairs.

And they're all dirt. Yeah. All dirt gravel. So in this particular spot, I would assume that

there had been like a stormwater problem that, that was a problem spot in this particular area

of the road. And I don't know if this happened to be like some kind of, some kind of catch basin.

There was a concrete, it was a custom formed concrete structure. Essentially it was a

a pit that was six or seven feet deep, but it was clearly intended for catching stormwater.

And what happened? Right where I, this, this pit was right there at this, in the spot where I

left the road and the bike drop just dropped right in and I kept going off the bike. Yep.

Yep. I, the bike just dropped into this hole, came to a dead stop and I, I kind of went like,

you know, tumbled and went over the handlebars. Summer salt, right? Yeah. Kind of, yeah. Kind

of that. A couple, couple tumbles and I don't know what the distance was, slid a little bit

further and, you know, was expecting to start, you know, figuring out what kind of injuries I had.

I mean, my, I guess the first impact, you know, as far as my body's concerned was on the right side.

Yeah. I had a little bit of pain, but I just assumed that with the adrenaline and,

and what had just happened that I, that I, you know, I just needed to,

to relax for a bit and then, you know, kind of evaluate what my situation was.

You know, at that, at that point, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm not quite thinking clearly, you know,

I'm shocked to be alive. Like, yeah, all these things, all these things at once.

Well, how did you come to stop?

I think that I was on my, on my backside. Yeah. When I came to a stop, I was sliding on my backside

and kind of rolled over onto my, into like a sitting position, like on the ground.

You know, one look at the bike, you know, I knew that there wasn't going to be any more riding for me

on this trip, particular, on this particular trip. I mean, it snapped the triple clamp,

clean off the, you know, the front end was just connected to the rest of the bike by the throttle

and the brake cables and the wiring harness. So yeah, so yeah, like, like it was clear right away

that the bike was a lost cause. So yeah, then I was just like, you know, trying to regain my

composure, get some water in me and calm down. And I still wasn't sure like the severity of my injuries.

So, so yeah, I just kind of like paced around for, I don't know, 15, 20 minutes.

And there happened to be a road crew who had been where I had passed them a couple of times.

I passed them actually on my way up, both on my way up and on my way down,

you know, I've passed them actually several minutes before, before the accident,

but they were finishing up for the day and they were on their way down the mountain and they were

the first, first people that I had seen up to that point. None of them spoke English and my,

my Spanish, I'm, you know, a beginner Spanish speaker. So communication is still a bit difficult

for me in most situations. Yeah. So, so yeah, they were just kind of like,

you know, just rubber necking, I guess. And then a few minutes passed and an SUV pulls up and stops

and a very nice lady approached me with the water and, you know, asked what she could do to help.

And I had no cell phone service. So she was able to call an acquaintance of mine down on the coast

and, you know, arrange. And then she ended up giving me a ride down there. And so I could arrange

to recover the bike and, and all that. But yeah, wonderful lady. And she worked with Americans

and Canadians in her business. So her English was perfect. And that was that, yeah, that was very

fortunate. So how, how bad were you? I mean, what sort of injuries did you get? The main

impact to my body was on my right side. As I said, I had some ligament damage in my ankle. And

the worst thing is a torn meniscus in my right knee, which looks like it's going to require

an operation to repair. And I, you know, I, I didn't go for x-rays. So I don't, I, I, I assume

that one of my fingers was broken. But I never confirmed that with an x-ray. But yeah, I mean,

that's basically the extent of it. I mean, a few minor abrasions, you know, where the sleeve of my

shirt came up a little bit, rode up on my arm and a little bit on the right hip.

Very minimal injuries considering what had happened.

You were really so lucky. So lucky. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, we have pictures in the show notes

to show the listeners if they want to go look at this, but that thing that you went into,

that drain ditch, I know how they made it by looking at the photographs. What they've done

is they've taken the KTM 690 and they made a cast of it, basically, and they made this six or seven

foot hole that, so it fits into like it's a slot. It looks like it was meant to be in there.

Like they used the original shipping crate from that pike to form this, to form this thing up.

Yeah, it was like made, it was the perfect fit. What a horrible thing on the side of the road,

just for that reason. I mean, geez, you know, it's, I understand what they have it there,

but a grill would have been handy at this point. Oh yeah. A great over it. A lot of the biggest

dangers on the roadways of Costa Rica are the shoulders or the lack thereof or the edge of

ditch. Basically, if you drop a tire into this ditch, you're the frame of your vehicle sitting

on the pavement and you're not getting out of there without a tow truck. I mean, this is like...

Like you understand, it is what it is. I mean, you understand why it's there, right?

In a lot of mountain places are like that. I mean, there's certainly, in British Columbia,

where I spent a lot of time riding the mountains, there's roads that have all kinds of weird things

like that off the sides of the roads. And yeah, if you go into it, well, you're having to deal with

whatever it is, but I just think you're so lucky. Like it's horrible that you hit the hole, obviously.

Had you just been just passed that, it might have turned out different. But who knows? Like,

we don't know any of the variables. It sounds like it really kind of worked out perfect. You came

out really with considering what you went through minimal damage. Absolutely. What happened to the

bike? Like, what happened expense wise? Did you have to pay for this? Did your insurance cover it?

Well, that's a whole another part of the story. So in Costa Rica, when you're involved in any kind

of vehicle accident, the first thing you do is you call the transit police and then, you know,

they dispatch someone out to take a report and then you call the insurance company. And they

also dispatch an adjuster out there who can assess the damage like before the before the

vehicles ever even removed from the accident scene. And that is that is the standard

operating procedure for for any kind of vehicle accident in in that country. And I knew this,

but I did not have like, as I mentioned, I did not have a signal on my phone. So when I got down

to the bottom of the mountain and finally had a signal, I realized that I had forgotten to grab

the insurance documents from the bike before I left the scene. And that I did not because of that

reason, I did not have the I did not have the phone number or didn't even know who the insurer was.

So I called the owner of the bike.

The rental company? Yes. I called the person who oversees the the rental company

and explained to him what happened. The reason why I was calling him was to get the information,

the insurance information, so I could make that call. And when I asked him for the

insurance information, he said, no insurance, no police. And then, you know, he went on to say

that he says, because he said, because you're not you weren't you were not on a public road,

the insurance will not cover this accident. That was like an old shit moment. Because I had

definitely read the contracts when I'm, you know, when I'm renting a an expensive machine that I

might be on the hook for. Did you know like this wasn't a public road? Because everything you

described so far, it sounds like a road. Well, definitely getting to that. So this situation

was still all unfolding this, you know, had been 30 minutes since I just had this crash. So

you know, I just kind of accepted what he said at that moment without, you know, giving it much

thought because I still had to find help getting this bike recovered and still had a lot of things

to accomplish to get this all sorted out. And again, you know, being that I'm not a fluent Spanish

speaker, you know, that makes those tasks like that a little more difficult. So when you know,

when he told me that I just left it at that for the time being and the acquaintance whose home

I was given a ride to, she was able to call somebody with a pickup truck and

and he had a couple guys and the four of us went back up there and hook some straps to the bike and

and we're able to lift it out of the hole and you know, and then we managed to get it loaded up on

the truck and we took it back down to this person's house and just kind of dumped it off the truck.

And you know, it's a bit of time passes, we recover the bike and I had had the

forethought to mark my location on a map exactly where the accident happened. And I went back

to that and I noticed all these like hotel like kind of wellness center type businesses that were

on this road. And then I remembered that it was the road crew who first arrived at the scene after

my accident. And I was like, he's telling me this is not a national public road. So I

I took a screenshot of the map and I sent it to him right away and I said, how is this not a public

road? And of course, I went back to the contract and reread that to make sure that, you know,

I hadn't missed anything or something wasn't lost in translation or either way, the accident did occur

on a national public road. It's very bizarre when the person responsible for the bike tells you

like not to contact the police or the insurance company. He was maybe perhaps trying to get

to have me believe that that I wasn't on a public road and that, you know, that the bike wouldn't

be covered. Now, there were things that you looked at on this bike and you describe these things

at the start of this, the things that you notice that were wrong with the bike, the general condition

of the bike from what you're describing. It was in poor condition. What I would describe as poor

condition with a tire. It was a poor condition. Well worn, almost exhausted pretty much. I think

most people would say that tire is worn out. You can see it in the photos and the show notes.

So there's definitely mechanical things there. But okay, so let's go back and look at this and

see what we can learn from this so that somebody else can avoid something similar.

What would you've done differently? Like if you were to show up for a rental now and you look at

that bike the way it is, just the stuff that you could spot right off. Would it be a showstopper for

you? Well, yeah, after this experience, yeah, almost certainly. It's tough, isn't it? Because

you read the bike, you planned your vacation. You're very excited about going and you're all

set to go. I mean, all of your plans are made and everything. And then you're presented with this

bike that looks to be substandard. And I know how, you know, our minds work. We start making excuses

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What do you come away with? What lessons do you have in your mind that you've learned from this?

Well, I mean, this was all avoidable. Clearly, I noticed a few of these things,

right away. Like you said, I was just anxious to get out on the road and enjoy the time.

But if I were ever presented with a bike that was even remotely close to the condition that

this 690 had been in, I would ask for something else or, you know, I would just wash the plans,

I suppose. Yeah. Because even like, because I'm thinking, you know, if it was me and I went to

ride this bike, I can totally see me getting on it, riding away, because you can't really see

the things that are going to happen, the things that are going to sort of build on each other.

Like, you know, you notice the missing handguard, but you don't really, you think there's a

potential that it could break the brake lever, but who would think you're going to be at the

top of this mountain where the brake lever is broken and the gear shifter slips off the spines,

you know, and there's no toolkit, you know, so these things that line up. But if you'd back up

and say, and I would now because I know your story, if you look at the bike and you think, no,

this is probably going to just be all kinds of problems and potentially cause something very

serious. I mean, you could have lost your life with something like this. You know, this is not

something that's, that's just an inconvenience. It's not, you were put out from this. You were

really put in a dangerous situation. Now, I know some of it, you can back up and you can say, well,

you know, maybe if you hadn't done this, that, maybe not got on the bike,

just left it on the top of the hill sort of thing and called them. There's all different

ways to look at it in hindsight, but, but it's certainly, I think that overall condition of

the bike, having heard your story now would scream to me and say, okay, this is a no go,

because it tells you something about the motorcycle itself. It tells you something about

the company that, that is renting out a motorcycle like this, even you showing up and having all

these repairs being done while you wait, while it's eating into your rental time, right,

kind of leads to it. I know you're saying it's Costa Rica. So I mean, there's a certain amount

of leeway have to be given there, given there, like I'm talking about it from a Western perspective,

you know, and, and that's different. I understand that, but it's just those little

things that would, that would sort of give you indicators now, but let's, so let's walk back

through this. So, so on this hill, when you get up there, when you have no gears, for instance,

when you realize that you can't shift it, that's a really big part of slowing our motorcycles down.

On top of that, you've got a tire, which that's pretty much bald on the back.

Did you have any sort of thoughts of packing it in at that point?

Maybe fleeting, but I was in a very remote area. I would assume able to take me several

hours to get back down the mountain on foot. I don't know. It's a bit of a conundrum. I mean,

for me, I was there, you know, I'm somewhat established in this country, but I imagine like,

if had I been on vacation and I had to take time off of work, and, you know, this is something

that I'd been planning for months and months and months. I don't know what I would do in a situation

like that. I mean, still, I mean, guess the risk profile doesn't doesn't really change

just because, you know, the renter circumstances, given I don't know. I

take as much as I did when I was 10 years old and I got the hang of it. You know, I was just so

much looking forward to this, to this opportunity that I don't know if at that point anything

could have stopped me. That's another factor is you're, you know, the state of mind and

Yeah, it's getting sold too much on something before you do it that you'll, that you'll accept

almost anything. But what about you build up the anticipation so much that like, you know,

there's no backing out. Yeah, we go to buy something like a motorcycle, for instance.

So excited about it. Next thing you know, you find yourself paying more than what you should

have. At least that can happen. I want to go right to the top of the hill there. When you're

at the top of the hill, you found out the shifter was slipping. You couldn't actually,

you couldn't shift the gears at all. You were stuck in third gear and then you pull the seat

off and you find the toolkits gone. Okay. So now you said like, you would have thought to check

for a toolkit normally or is this something you think you should have? I agree. I think that's

something that I would now, that I know your story as I said, but what about bringing your own

toolkit? Like what about like, even though you're renting a bike, what about like not

necessarily a toolkit, but what about even just like a Leatherman or something like that?

Yeah, that even, even something as simple as that may have been all the difference in this

particular case. Yeah, it could give you something, right? Like you give you at least a chance at doing

something. I mean, yeah, I, yeah, I mean, I most likely would have been able to tighten the gear

shifter up enough to get somewhere, you know, where it could, you know, could be done with a

proper tool and torqued, you know, torqued to the right spec and all, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

But I'm thinking some basics, right? Some. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. A basic tool. That would,

that would be something that I would take from this. And the other thing is, so you're at the top

of the hill, you can't get the bike to change gears. That's a huge potential for a steep hill,

especially describing how steep it was when you said you came up and then further down,

you break the brake lever. Would that be a showstopper for you now? Would that be a thing of

where you just say, that's it, I can't go any further? Having learned what you've learned?

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. For this particular road, you wouldn't want to be

on anything other than a perfectly functioning bike. Period. Yeah. And of course, it's easy to

say, like I always say in this, you know, hindsight is 20, 20, so it's easy to make judgments afterwards.

When it comes to braking on a really steep hill, I think that a lot of times people will drag their

brakes and that's a mistake because your brakes will quickly overheat and then you'll find yourself

with no brakes. But actually, let me back up. So when you think of a hill, any time we're on a

really steep hill, you're always better off to start in your lowest gear because to try and gear

down once you're already gaining speed, especially if your brakes fade, it's just about impossible

or very, very difficult. So you start off in your lowest gear and then you use your brakes

alternately. So you apply them and then you let them off and you apply them and you let them off

and you try and control your speed that way because dragging the brakes gives them no time

to cool down. They overheat, you lose your brakes and then things just go downhill from there.

Yes. And I, you know, something else, I mean, I was in largely, it was in direct sunlight,

you know, in the 85, 90 degree temperature. So, you know, that the ambient, just the ambient

temperature already had the, you know, already had the brake fluid warmer than what I would

normally have here in the Northeast. Yeah, totally, totally unnerving to be on a runaway

anything, but in this case of motorcycle on such steep grades. And, you know, the sharp

curves on this road just add another layer. Well, when you were describing going down,

I was wondering about what about oncoming traffic, you know, there could have been a vehicle

coming the other way. And if you have no way to slow, I mean, you can't swerve, it's not going to

work. It's just such an incredibly high risk situation to be in. And when you first said in

this story, the submission for Deep Trouble, I looked at this and I thought, well, what is the

procedure for a runaway motorcycle? Well, even just a runaway vehicle for that matter on a hill.

I know that we should be starting off in our lowest gear that makes sense for the hill.

We should apply our brakes and release our brakes, allowing them to cool. But once those two things

fail, what's the emergency procedure? The only thing I can come up with is the roads that like

in British Columbia that I'm used to driving, they have runaway lanes on some of the really long

steep hills for mainly for, well, I guess for anything really. So you could bail out on a

runaway lane, which is a specially designed lane that goes uphill at the end of a long steep run.

It is soft sand helps slow you down. And sometimes they have some things in there for you to hit

that may be full of water or whatever. In any case, it's a proper runaway lane. But other than that,

I couldn't find any, you know, sort of neat procedure for a runaway motorcycle in this

situation. Maybe I'll have to look at one of those books that give you hundreds of ways to get out

of everyday emergencies. But you did say you shut the ignition off. And there's one thing that

sort of jumped out of me because I'm not sure there's an advantage there. Do you know whether

there's an advantage of shutting it off? No, it's something that I'd never had to consider before.

But of course the gears are everything. Like we know this going down a hill to not be able to

shift it down. I think you put yourself in a real dangerous situation, not to mention all the other

things combined with the tire, the brake lever, eventually that broke, et cetera. You mentioned

about calling them about finding out your cell had no service. That's one of those calm things that

always comes back, right? Of where we're riding and what are you using for comms? Did that worry

you at any or was it not enough of a remote place? Cell service is pretty widespread there.

I wasn't too concerned about it because I knew maybe just even walking, you know, a couple

hundred yards back up the mountain or I knew it was just a matter of finding the right spot to get

to get cell service because I don't generally ride with a GPS unit either. I use my phone for

everything. So for that reason, you know, I tend to keep an eye on my signal strength.

And I carry a Garmin in reach with me at a pretty much all time. So I had that, you know,

if things had been really bad and more remote than I in a more remote area. Right. So the reason

you're talking about walking, you would have had to walk down the hill to get cell services to call

insurance is what you're thinking. Right. Yeah. To call it. So it's a, you know, you have to stick

to the, you know, the reporting procedure. Yeah. So it's quite a wake up call your story for renting

a motorcycle. And I think obviously the best thing is, and I think you did this because you said it

was a company that was familiar with it, but deal with companies that you find to be solid companies

that, you know, have a reputation, et cetera, et cetera. And we all know all the ways that you

can check those things nowadays, but that's, that's, you know, that's pretty good due diligence in my

mind. But I guess, you know, you've got to be a little bit more thorough when a bike arrives,

or you go to pick it up and things are in the condition they are, at least, you know, that's

what it would point to, to me, to, um, to again reassess, I guess, the company, once you get

there by the condition of the motorcycle, right? Absolutely. Yes. Um, going forward,

if I happen to rent another bike, I will definitely have a whole different way of approaching it in

the future. That was Seth Cooper from his home in New York. We've got some photos that you will

want to look at in the show notes for this episode, Seth's bike after the crash, the road, and more.

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