Dispatches from Scottsdale and Paris

And bring a trailer podcast. Hello, everybody. And welcome back to the bring a trailer podcast. Alex

coming to you from bring a trailer headquarters with Zach and Randy. Thanks for being here.

Gentlemen, was a little tough this week to get people in, huh? Sorry, I'm going to be distracted.

Well, this 962 is closing. Oh, man, I started too early. I'm watching as well. We all got it.

I got on one of my phones, Zach's got it. The result by now is there. You guys, you sure you guys bought a live stream

and possible R&M. This is a little risky. I want Randy to hit. Oh, gosh. No, thank you.

They're shaking off racing school under the 962. A little bit not prepared to race this thing. It's

pretty wild, though. Some of those early photos of that thing running around. I think it's a really good

looking one. Zach, do you, do you know the background in history on this car a little bit?

No, I didn't read that closely. It's an unusual livery and it's really like the livery. It looks like

when I first saw it pop up, I was like, is this a Nissan? It has like a Japanese. It has Japanese history.

That's why it's got an interesting livery and raced at a couple interesting spots. Anyway, yeah,

super cool car. We've got a few guys. Eccleston history. It's Bernie. Yeah, I didn't know that part.

But we've listed a few 962s, I think on BAT and when they come up, the experts come out and start

talking about it. It's pretty cool to see that dialogue. Indeed. It's our buddy, Bill Nune,

who's been telling all kinds of interesting stories, racing drivers who were too fresh with his

girlfriend. You should go Beth can read. It's good. I just want the handle or stash of the guy

sitting on all the photos. Well, the bid goes on. We can keep people updated as it goes forward.

Main thing I was hoping to talk about today with you, gentlemen, is some of the adventures we've

been on. We were out in the desert, or at least some of us were out in the desert. Sorry,

I was left out of that one. Oh, but the whole time we were there, we were like, oh, we wish

Zach was here. I wish I was there too. I'm excited to finally get a full download and

pay for you guys with questions about it. This is for the Arizona event. That's what you're talking about.

Yeah. We just got stale of it. That was super fun. Give us some stories from that week.

Yeah. That was really, really fun. And then we're very fresh back from Paris, from Retromobile.

I still haven't time zone adjusted. Have you guys? I don't think I ever adjusted to Paris.

So like, I didn't have that bad of a time coming back. I was feeling some adjustment

to leave me sleepy times as recently as like yesterday and we've been back for almost a week. So,

yeah, anyway, it's a take some doing coming back flying west, but good to be back in San Francisco,

and we all survived the trip as far as I know. That's right. Arizona, I want to hear

about the event, but I also want to hear about your experience. So what day do you guys get in,

and what did that first night look like? Uh, I flew in all night sick to do his soul.

Look at that. Great. Good job. Selling. Selling. Yeah. Selling. It's still going anyway.

All right. That was a little risky live live stream in that one, but that's a way.

I'll talk about RNMs or actual sales. We will talk about it. It's all we're talking about.

Sales. There were sales in Paris and sales in Arizona. I flew in Thursday morning,

Zach with Beck, which was very nice. We had a nice little business brunch. Just a couple of

pilots as I and over to Arizona together. We talked aviation. We had some omoses, which you

couldn't do if you were PIC piloting commands. So that was nice. And then some of them did back

in the day. Absolutely. There's stories. Yeah, some of that. But then we were right into it. When

we got there, we were straight to Joey caskios shop, which was really cool. Love that guy. He had

really interesting stuff. Goal wing. Right out in front. Gray. Goal wing with doors open.

Does he share if he takes his own photos or does he have a dog? He's like two. It's like a two

person show. It's him and his wife. They do. I love those photos and work on it. Really? He does

all that himself. I mean, like he has a crew like detailing cars, but like photos because I was like,

let's work together to streamline your process. He's like, no, I do the submissions, the comments,

photos. That's all me. Awesome. Amazing. I just love that no matter what the time of years,

he always times it with sunset. Yeah. I'm imagining the summer. He's working till 8 p.m.

And through the winter, it's what 430. But he was. Yeah. He like wakes up early at the morning. He's

got like a permit to shoot in like a nature preserve. He has like a whole like a whole scheme

to it. Then that's why the results look so great. I love how these people have crafted their

like personal BAT identity. Yes. And because I know that dude's listings every time one pops up,

I'm like, oh, it's that guy. Yep. But in a good way, not like, oh, this is the same, you know, bad news.

It's like the same really beautiful presentation. He was awesome. So we spent a little bit of

their Howard met up with us there. So we chatted with him. And then we kind of all had to go check

into hotels after that. And then that would just stay. Oh, dude, Howard and I stayed at the,

we stayed in the R.M. Root and Block at the built more eras of a built, which is the

Franklin Wright, like my and brick was so sick. That was like, maybe the thing I wish that you

were at the most. We'll have to do the architectural design podcast at some point. But I was hoping

you guys stayed there. Yeah. It was awesome. It was really cool. That sounds incredible. It's

interesting that it's like an auction. Some people call it an auction week at Arizona car

week. Yes. What are you calling it? I call it auction week because I think of car week as

Monterey, but most of the people there call it car week. Yeah. Interesting. So they're kind of

building on some sort of brand of that. And there were events earlier in the week. I came in,

you asked when we were getting in and out. I mean, I came in for like a 24 hour block. I was super

fast in and out Friday and then back out Saturday. But there was stuff to do when there were

auction spread out around and a couple new auctions, a couple different ones. Yep. But then some

of the obviously big players that were there, right? Yep. 10 auctions, which are fun to see.

And we're going to cover Alex going to bear it for his first time ever. Unlimited

troze. Yeah. It was the entire time. I wish everyone listening could see the tattoo you got there.

Totally. That on site. I confident there was a tattoo. Of course. There's actually no.

There definitely was. It was inside and it was a big, like it was one of the main features was

tattooed. They'll tag bear it Jackson, right? Oh, I sure am. No doubt about it. No doubt about it.

You get that if you buy a car there. That's that's like included. I mean, I mean, it's a brand.

Just for efficiency branding. I heard they heated up. There's so many cars passing the block. Yeah.

I'm going to sell like a fool, but I didn't realize like how it's like literally a circus.

Like that's not like no pun intended. It's literally like people are there on vacation to watch

a circus and eat turkey legs. I got beers for the crew. It was four beers. It was like 70 bucks

before beers. You know, like, oh, this is the event almost more than the cars. It's a thing.

Yeah. It's a whole thing. I'm glad you went to that. I wish I could have been there with you.

I think you you would. We came out of it and you're like, really? I don't know if I'm doing

that ever again. I was like, shoot. I wasn't there to like try to shepherd it in a positive

direction because it can veer problematic. If you didn't like, they're just going to cruise

in and anyway, maybe maybe we'll do something like that. You came out of it now. You're

free diabetic. I mean, he came out and he's like, okay, I've never I'm never going back. I was

like, come on, dude, you got to you got to do it. Game saw conquered did enough. Sad on the metal

rodeo benches and watch the whole thing. Yeah, rode the mechanical bowl. That was the best thing

you saw there. Car or not. I mean, everything was like a build, right? Like so there was very

there wasn't a ton of stuff that I was super excited. I was once and there were 12 superbirds

side by side. There were a bunch of stuff is impressive. No, there was it was a little bit,

you know, not to jump ahead. But Paris was like this a little bit too. It was overwhelming.

Yeah, yeah. So crowded and there's so much action. It was a little bit like, oh, man,

I'm having a hard time taking this in. If you hate everything else, you can usually just go stare

at like half a dozen Ford GTs and be pretty stuck. Yes, they were good. There was like a god,

what's the mercury comet like drag specials? It's not if is it a thunder or something? There

was a, you know, they were interesting like muscle car kind of racing. Federal. Thunderbolt.

Comet, Kelliantay. I mean, that's a Ford. Thunderbolt's a Ford 64 Ford. Gosh, I was thinking

it was a murder. It was a murk. It was a murk. But it was a, you know, marauder. Big slicks and

graphics. There are a couple things like that. But a lot of it was custom. So many tri-fives with

shaved engine bays, you know, like that kind of program. Yeah. Which is fine. And I understand why

people like those cars, but it's not exactly. Go away. Do you see a little gray going there?

See the BAT, go away there. Sure did. Walked right up to that fat boy. Very, you're really similar bit

to what a bid on BAT. Did you see that? Very close. Very close.

Yes. You've friend forwarded that to me. That's the gray, go away that we sold directly on BAT.

He is the first premium car in what? 2018, 2019. Yeah. It popped up at BAT by some subsequent

owners. It was driven that car. I have driven that car. It had a prominent place. One of the things

I learned is like people are angling for when you first walk into where all the cars are displayed.

Like, what number slot you have is like very desirable. You're fighting for grid position.

Yeah. The very first one was a BAT mobile from like the original Adam West Batman. So that

had grid number one. We were there courtesy of MS Classic Cars, a power seller on BAT. So shout

out to Mark and his guy who got his passes and got us in. They had, I think, slot number 11 with

a custom 60 caddy and they opened up the ropes for us. So we got to go kind of behind the things and

check out the car, which was cool. But yeah, for an hour, I was a little overwhelmed. You were ready.

Yeah. Yeah. That was enough. That was enough to take the golf cart shuttle out like seven

football fields to take one of those. Much too golf carts out. It was like a zoo outside.

Remember, we were commenting the whole time. We were there. We noticed how there were no police

in Scottsdale. I'm like, where is the law enforcement? I was just going to ask, were there metal

detectors? And then I was like, Oh, of course not. Well, all the police were at BJA.

That's where they were. There was a heavy police presence there. But also the independent

militia was there too. People in Arizona, they deal with their own crimes. Yeah, you got your ankle

holster. Absolutely. Not absolutely. Double up. So that was great. The event was awesome,

which Randy flew out for you on talk a little bit about that. That was in conjunction with auto

our local partners. So yes, Saturday morning of car week auction week, Zona week, Scottsdale week,

whatever you want to call it. Yeah, our local partner auto car club, OTTO. We're putting on an

event and we basically co-sponsored and co-presented it. And it was super, super cool to be there.

That facility is just sort of, I recommend anybody that can go to one of their events. This is one of

their sort of public events. Love their events are private, but their facilities incredible. Their

cars that they house there. They're sort of a storage and social and all things automotive

club there in Scottsdale. Super first class, really well done. And they also have auto works and

some things tied to it for a mechanical shop and also car sales. So that's the way they're a

partner on BET whereby they assist a lot of their clientele to listing cars on BET. You can find

their sales on BET pretty easily. They do a good job of those. So we were with them. I don't know

how many thousand people, no jokes, thousands of people showed up. Yeah. Wow. It felt just, yeah,

crowd-wise as big as our Monterey event. No question at all. Lots of cars. The trick about this

one. And here's what I've been telling people first of all is early morning, which is fun. We've

done some AM events, but this is like starts at seven. And this means like the hardcore folks showed

up at like five thirty. It's dark. It's cold. It's winter and the desert at five thirty.

The band was playing. The band was cool. This was the other thing. Yeah. There was a rock band,

which I think is awesome. But how the heck do you book a rock band? They're like, hey, can you come

play music? They're like, yeah, when? You're like, yeah, I can be here at five AM. Like what

rock band that you know is available to get out of bed at that hour? I've never heard noise

ordinance start at an hour. Totally. Totally. They were wrapping up by noon, right? And they

had to go sleep it off. And then maybe play somewhere that night. But I was laughing. And it's so

cool, just because they totally have this wired and really good event planners and execution wise.

But my favorite part was the fact that there was a rock band like ribbing on electric guitar.

I had no joke. Like seven, 15 in the morning. Like we're eating bagels and listening to,

you know, step in wolf or whatever. And I was just like, this is a basic.

Anyway, covers are all all original music. No, a lot of covers. Not a good covers. Like great covers.

But like they bought Marley for a while. They had like just a cool vibe. Go in and they played

just some great tunes. A great band. I was stoked on it. But just like we've never tried to pull that

off. But like to see them just sort of nail that that like made me really happy. But the cars

were super cool. Yes. Crazy. New stuff. Speaking of goal wings. Another couple go wings showed up

there. But like some wild 90 teens and and crachies. But then hot rods. But then Dakar builds.

But that 308. That 308 race car. I mean, a road or crazy stuff. That was in a chevy or for the pickup

truck that won best best auction last year of the year before that crazy like panoramic roof camper

shell on it. That was there. Yep. The in and out six wheel six wheel pickup truck.

A lot of alumni that I recognize. Right. Just like interesting down the middle

porches. And that's Celica. That was next to us was cool. And muscle cars. There's a good

amount of American car action going on in Phoenix. But also heavy or jetty or stuff.

Heavy porches. Everyone's got a GT3 RS. What's up with the six wheel in an out truck?

Not officially sanctioned. I don't think. But interesting. It was close to us.

People should go look at the gallery. The gallery art place design. Like has some very interesting

stuff that you kind of won't see anywhere else. Yep. And then guys see any cars either at

our event or throughout the week down there that you hadn't been previously enthusiastic about. But

seeing in person ignited something in you. Oh, that's interesting to think about. I mean, the car

that got me the most excited was that 32 Ford Roadster, which is now live from Matt Krandel,

our other local partner down there, 9-11-R. We went to the radio a little bit. Like,

should we just either. With the two of us there. That car. That just went live. And I was

gasped the same way I did when we saw that. They called me about it. And I was like,

oh, yeah, we saw that before it went live. Yeah. That's a really nice 32-how rod build.

People know that seller as well. Obviously, he's there in Arizona. He came over and had a

little pop-up display at the event as well. So, yeah, it was kind of like playing the hits, you know.

And love Arizona in the winter, right? Like, people are out. Some people show up to our event and

like shorts and flip flops like cruising around. They've been in the sun in Zona like 12 months.

You know, there was some great Hawaiian shirts and flip flops.

Randy ripped around for 24 hours in a 9-11 Safari build.

G-body. Or SC Safari build, which was super well done.

Belonging to Adam Petali, Adam Spolish's on BAT. What was the spec? Was it a stock three-liter

mostly? The motor was mostly stock. But then, yeah, it had turbo flares on it. So it had a bunch

of room for wide fuchs, powder-coded white. Can the tires did it have on it?

And were they altering? No, no, no, no, they're blizzaks. That's giant blizzaks on it.

That's like belonging to an SUV. Like, it was, man, and I just, I had never driven it. We've

lists so many Safari builds. That car was on BAT, wasn't it?

The keen cars and all this stuff. No, I don't think that cars could be.

Okay, well, okay. But 9-11 R has listed some of those had a moment and then they kind of chilled

out, but I've always been intrigued to actually drive one and like the drainage ditches in Arizona

and all the intersections because when it rains, like the water is nowhere to go. So the way they

paved the roads there and stuff, I was like, you kind of want to have like a rapture if you're

in that town, but this thing was kind of like a sports car, high clearance. Like, if you could go

rip it around. I think about that a lot with the roads out in Oakland. Totally.

All the pop hills. It was so perfect. Yeah, so yeah, you don't worry about like, yeah, driving a

super low sports car around or whatever. So anyway, I thought it was fun. I parked in a parking lot

to go out to dinner, cruised this long, windy desert road to get to where I was staying and

very cool. I get the appeal of those and I thought it looked really cool. I'd take pictures of it

at the gas station and stuff. I didn't go like Baja off road, but I was only there for a little bit,

but it would have been willing. I mean, you take the car and hang a ride out a dusty road or something

seemed like it would have been fun. How did it do no power steering with all that tire?

I didn't notice it too much. Not impressive. You know, ripping it around. I thought it was fine.

So it was not a four wheel drive car, right? It was just a rear drive car and I was, again,

on pavement the whole time. So not getting too squirly, but it was fun. Nice ringy endorsement.

I did want to bring that 32 Ford up with you, Alex, because from the day I met you've talked about

putting a hemi in a correct angle of the V. And you can see how that's a Chrysler hemi, which

is the widest of the hemi's how it sticks out of the side. I know it's almost flat looking.

Totally. So you can't have hood sides or you have to have bulges on them. The hemi I would like

to put in one is a red ram hemi, which is the smallest of that. So Dodge is the smallest hemi.

That's a red ram. DeSoto is the middle size. That's a fire dome. What's that? Fire dome. And then

fire power is the Chrysler, which is the widest. The biggest. So the red ram is four inches narrower.

Is it a different degree on the V? I don't think so. It's just smaller. It's smaller in

displacement. The smallest one of those is 241 cubic inches. The red ram gets really small.

And I think it went up to about a 315, whereas what's the biggest fire? There are 392, but they go to,

is there a four? He's got a, does he have a 354 in it? That's what I have. That's what you have in your

Chrysler. 392. 392. Oh, it's even bigger. So four inches narrower, you would have to have

much smaller bulges. Less power, of course, too. But that car also has Schroeder steering box,

which is my favorite, which is the sprint car, where the steering box is mounted over your feet

by the pedals. And then the steering linkage comes right out the side of the cowl. And then there's

a rod running forward. That's like my, I love that program. Wild. Yeah. Look at that right now.

It's got some really good details. I don't know, I don't know who built it or where it came from,

but it's, that's a super cool car route. Yes, tribute to the Don Spencer car. It's got like the

Duval windshield and all that stuff. Really nice car. That's live, right? That's live

currently. Depending on when this podcast goes live. It'll be closed by the time this is going to

go live next Thursday. So it'll be closed by then, but great car. Congrats on the result in

advance. Totally. That's Matt. I'm stoked to see you in the next week. Yeah. Congrats on

your win. You want that or do you want to buy a piece of tornado? A tornado. Give me tornado.

There was a tornado in France. Is that your transition? He means the ball. I know. He means the ball.

That could be a good segue. Oh, man. I wanted to talk about the 44. That's for that sick

seller. Would you and I really like to use that car going live? Yeah. That's coming up. That's coming

up. I know that anyway, Arizona just to put a bone on there. I love it down there, man. Every time

I go, I'm happy because you're at Palm Springs guy. I'm a desert guy and I like the big street roads

and I like the vibe. It's my blood pressure goes down a little while to get across town. My blood

pressure goes up when I have to be across town. Yes. Because it's like our big joke was that

everything is 27 minutes away. And every time we would map quest it, it would be

map quest. What a vintage dated thing. Every time we would pull up directions on the phone,

it's like 22 minutes. But you'll broke trying to do that week in an Uber. You have to get your own

car. Because otherwise, it's like 60 bucks everywhere you go, right? Because it's all pretty spread

out, right? So I was very fortunate to have a car to run around and shout out to Howard's 40,000

mile rental Hyundai Sonata that he was in love with. He talked about the brake feel and the steering

feel every time. That's so funny because when we knew New York, he had a 60,000 mile Nissan rogue that

he also fell in love with. He asked for the highest mile rental at the counter. What do you got with

the highest mile? It was so disgusting. Like I had white cloth interior, which is like the most

ill-conceived thing for a rental car. It's not smart. We had a delightful time cruising around,

Howard and I. We had a hillstone for every meal. He ate their five times in a row, four times

in a row. Well, technically the menu's large enough to support that. We went there with Randy. That

was our final meal in zone out. It was a hillstone. It was fantastic. Out we go on the Saturday.

Yeah. No, I love it. So I didn't go to any big auction. I basically went for our event. A couple

dinners got to see some awesome Arizona folks and then our big event, which was Cracodon until midday

and then out of there. But I think it's a fun event to go back to. Particularly if you know some

folks, obviously Ariane at the partners, they tend to have events there. So for people listening,

if you're like, why would I go down there? The cars to see at the events are fun. But if the

BAT partners are having events during that weekend, I would say go because both 9-11-R and auto

are both 10 out of 10 to visit. In my opinion, if you get a chance and we'll be doing more events

down there. Yeah, beautiful facilities. I'd also really good people. Put it at a point for the timing.

It's cool that it events happening in late Jan where totally a car space is pretty dead for

the most part. NSX got a free detailing too. I forgot to tell you that. Oh, nice. Adams wanted to

do a detailed exhibition at auto. And I said, great. I have a dirty car down there for you. And

then he later, were you there when Adam was back? He's like, that was a real dirty car. He's like,

that was too dirty. But they cleaned it up really nicely. Then Krandel texted me this week and

he's like, ooh, that front bumper is pretty rough. We should repaint it. And I said, that's fine.

So wow. Yeah. Bruce it a little before the sale. It's already been repainted once. So it might

as well do it again. It's had 20,000 hard miles of being out on the road. Another silver car,

tornado in Paris. So actually the one comment I didn't get to make because I missed out on

so many podcasts is when you and I drove to Vegas together in the NSX is when we got there,

I said, Alex, what's your odometer reading? Oh, yes. Do you remember what it was? I crossed 90 when

we were driving there. You were at like 90 and one mile or so. And I was at 90 and 13 miles.

Our cars are 12 miles apart. 12 miles apart. Randy, what we drove out there? Isn't that wild? I had no

idea. You had that many miles on your car. Yeah. I piled them on and he's selling his and you're

never selling yours, right? Exactly. Never sell. Never sell. That's in the never exact never sells it,

which I love because you sell a lot of cars. But that one's a keeper. I drive all my cars

in the ground and then they become worthless. You have any car you've had longer than that one?

The prelude if that counts. No, it's gone. Oh, currently. No, that's still. Do you retain ownership

of any vehicle or is the NSX the longest in your state? But everything I've had now. I've

I've owned for a little while. I guess except for the M3. But I'm not doing direct answers.

Direct answers only. I think I got 18 and then I got the white GT3 in 20. Yeah, everything's

newer. 21. That's your veteran car. He was looking at that deal in a Radwood parking lot,

isn't that right? Right after I got my car. I think it all happened. Teddy Wong. That's

you see Berkeley alum. Good guy. That's awesome. And you're keeping in 2045. We're going to have

the BAT podcast and you're still going to have that car and it's going to be awesome. I think so

every once in a while. I'm like, I'd be nice to have this in Arty. No great option. I don't know.

Save it for the 1999 draft drafting order matters a lot for 1999. Oh, it also might get stolen

between now and then because it's already attempted theft once in the last couple of years. By the way,

we're deep. What's our clock? We're 25 minutes. The 962 is still going. That's amazing.

It's still going 1.245. It's going another 100 grand, but it's going in like two grand increments,

so it's another 20 minutes. 322 comments. Is it just two guys, Randy? You're watching.

I'm not. I just it's kind of your, yeah, same internet pros is still going and Lambo, man.

Bill noon is over the moon. Is that enough Zona? Are we done with Zona or is there any lingering

you want to throw any other Arizona trips? Not yet. I'll be going back to Arizona. I'm going to

Arizona. Yeah, and there's some fun car stuff going on. I'll be back there too. Cool. Let's talk

about Paris, which was awesome. The tornadoes probably not the great lead in, although I did really

like that card. We should talk about it. So first trip to Europe in 23 years for me. That's

the congratulations. You made it back. I did. It did barely travels crazy. Kids are crazy.

You got to have some fun and tour around outside of the car world, but also some of these other

guys were cruising around Europe and going to other places. I was just Paris. You were just

Paris. Yep. How many times are retro mobile for you, Randy? So that was my third time to

retro mobile. First time was six or so years ago and then two years ago and then this one,

and it had always been a dream of mine to get you guys to be there. Whenever I'm there, I was

always like, man, I wasted Zach and Hansen Howard. We're here to check this out. It's so

nuts. And to hear about how people talk about BAT over there is really different. And obviously,

we have our big Euro initiatives. You guys are part of that, which is awesome. But in the earlier

six years ago there, it was just sensory like below your mind. Can't believe this is actually

happening. How have I never done this before? How can I get all my buddies to come see this?

And so that was very fun to do. But now we're doing more meaningful business over there. And

it has taken on a feel of you're walking around and people are like, oh, BAT, I'm listing a car

and be, oh, I bought a car on BAT. Oh, when is BAT going to be in, you know, XYZ random place?

So it's a different sort of thing. Or we can have it in Euros. And we're like, how about

yesterday? How about we just release that before we walked in the door. Well done, Zach,

Segway. Yeah, we push timing. We push to offer some new features to European

watchers and listeners and readers and sellers and buyers. And so yeah, so now, yeah, there were cars

live while we were over there that were listed in Euros and pounds. And that's sort of a new

component of BAT. And we also had a bunch of good inventory that was live when we were there

announcing our third European partner, which is Columbo and Co out of Belgium.

Cool, we got to spend a little time with, which was nice also. Zach, what was your take-away

walking in? I almost kind of wish we were in Cognito because there was so much to take in. I was like,

oh, man, we've got to do work. But you could spend days there without, you know, just absorbing.

Yeah, well, still making sense of all the chaos. There's so much going on there once. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Some of it's a little trade showy, but the vintage parts world is super interesting to

me. And then there's models and art and posters and auctions and OEMs. The story I keep telling is

you're a Scoda story where they've got Pilsner or Kell and old cars, but also the new cars,

right? The Scoda tent was the highlight for me, for sure. Whatever that thing was, shoot. I

should have pulled up the plaque. I've never heard of it before with the huge wing, black,

low-slee Scoda. Yeah, I saw that car. I don't know what it was called, but we could

bright find a Scoda. I'll pull it up and it took some picks. And then they're pouring espresso

at the back, some modern truck. There was a Scoda that looks like a series two Land Rover.

Did you see that? Yeah, it was right on the corner there. It was like a pale pastel color.

It was like yellow. Yeah, and it was super cool, but you'll never see another one.

Yeah, not at all. Just a cool piece of history of a mark we don't get here in the U.S.

And I don't know a whole lot about it. And Scoda results, they're definitely in the double

digits, maybe even single on BAT. So that was cool. The Mitsubishi tent was the highlight for me,

because it was, it's actually easy to pack every single highlight Mitsubishi into like a display,

because there's, you know, you can count on one hand. But the Dakar Rally,

Evo Pajero, which was sweet. They had, I think it was a Evo 5 or 6, queued up. But most importantly,

they had a PS1 with every single column of the play, Rally and Gran Turismo in there.

Was that a McLean car? You could go play. Yeah, so five. Two different stations. That's amazing.

So, yeah, that was hilarious. Was the Evo column a gray car? I just walked past it.

I didn't like it. It was not. No, no, no, no. It was a Tommy McKinnon car, I think.

Yeah. Yeah. McLean, McLean, McLean, McLean, McLean.

Yeah. Did he ever race and not supers, Colin?

Yeah. He raced in Ford, Ford Focus WRC. He did different Ford stuff before that,

but he would never Mitsubishi guy. I don't know if he ever touched the wheel of a Mitsubishi.

They had one of the front wheel drive Citroën Rally cars that Carlos Sains drove so many times.

You called that. You trimmed me. I was like, that's got to be all wheel drive. It was like

Sara. Yeah, Sara. And I was like, that's got to be all wheel drive. No, that was from wheel drive.

You can get into so many trivia moments when you're over there because there's so many

quirky features that are really deep cuts. Take the most automotive experts, you guys are like

huge automotive experts. The Renault like quonset hunt thing that we did some press in that had that

like land speed car. I was like, what is this? That's the kind of stuff you see there that you're

like, it's crazy. Yeah. That was another manufacturer booth, which was the Renault Vindy. Yes.

Which was cool. They had some of their modern R5 and R4 stuff, but then they had like perfectly

restored 5,000 Euro cars. Which is, which is, you love it. I love it. I mean, just for race.

Yeah. Yeah. People are walking off going like show me the, you know, show me the alloy go wings.

And I'm like, show me your Renault four. And I'm like, it's so good. And I, man, I can walk around

that stuff and just be so happy about it. You know, I mean, it's like, I don't know. It's like

go and do a lift go cool and see in a perfect beetle. I'll be like, I'll be here. You guys can go

to the GT2s. So anyway, it was so, so cool. We can go like stand by stand if you want to.

The Ben's 10, Ted a lot of heat. Oh, this 111 car that keeps coming back to my,

my head C1 111, I think, right? Yeah. The goal weighing supercar. Sorry, this is, it's a 110 super

sport for rat vampire. Of course it is. It's a for rat vampire. It has a vampire look to it.

It had real, real small front wheels and it's kind of a wet, a weird car.

Let's go to check, right? I was going to say that sounds like a Parisian sort of novella.

Yeah, they're right. The for rat, whatever, but I guess it veers in a coming up out of the

catacombs. Totally. It's like a check direction, not a Parisian, well, Parnasse direction.

Zach, did you get, I know you and I walked, we braved the crowds on the way back from the

Art Curial auction, but did you get a chance to check out any of those kind of holes that were

in between the auction and the kind of Grand Hall? I did a bit. I walked some of them with you.

Yeah, the under 30k thing, which was something that really, and I would love that under 30,

they haven't a whole section because I mean, that whole show and anything classic car can get

super elitist pretty quick, right? It can go to a million dollar stuff. That one guy's stand,

awesome stuff. And they had like five cars. They're all Mercedes 540. Oh,

compressor. It was like only two or strong. It was incredibly strong. And the like booth like

matched the car. It was all black and the cars were all black. It was like pick which one you'd

love the most. I love that setup. Anyway, there's so many, but those are what I don't know,

three, five, 10 million euro each. So we can view that direction, but the show intentionally

had a moto section and had a whole hall of cars for sale. First of all, everything at the

places for sale, which is kind of fun. Not those manufacturer restored cars, but so many of the

displays and they had a whole section of under 30,000 euros. I wonder if that's crept up.

I wonder if that used to be under 15,000 euros. It started at 3,000 in 1960s. Yeah,

and totally. The euro is in hyperinflation mode. So it's like 30,000. Next year, it'll be

under 40,000 is a big auto car. But anyway, 30,000 and everything seemed to be 29, 750.

A lot of 29, 750. Yeah. But so that was kind of funny. They were kind of eaking under the wire. But

man, anyway, I keep, I don't know why I have this thing where I keep gravitating towards this

low end stuff. But man, there were some, there were GTIs in there. I'm looking at a photo of you

right now lifting the hood on that eight valve blue mark one. Yes, I was all there for that. That

was actually in the auction. That was the last lot of the auction and they fast hammered it with

one online bid for 18 grand. Amazing. I'll actually say shout out to our curial, whatever they're doing

on their auction estimates, they're very sober, honest, realistic estimates. I feel like that's not

the black career. 2356 for 375. Well, auction estimates are a farce. I can go on a whole rant

about that. But yeah, there's our a little less insane than what you see. They're definitely

grounded in reality. And the way I'm not used to seeing anywhere. I don't know if this is related to

that. But while we were there, one wall of the auction did fall down onto the motorbike. So that

was a little iffy. But I mean, the whole thing doesn't just happen executed in a different way,

right? I mean, yeah, stuff happens. And man, you guys should talk about the size of the event

given that it was your first time, sort of first impressions. So the first I'd want to give an

honorable mention to the food. They had an entire section that was filled with probably 200 people

minimum. And it was just raw oysters and champagne. Where's the problem? No problem. There is no

problem. Yeah, shout out to that. That just wouldn't exist in America. Rady and I knocked back some

ice cold orangeinos, which were delicious. So that was my main culinary indulgence there.

Could you imagine getting oyster at Barrett in Arizona? What would have skipped it?

It's a place to grow in turkey leg or it's oysters and French champagne. Yeah,

totally. So from what I understand, this is the event sets up on Tuesday. We were there on Wednesday

and Thursday. You went back again on Friday. I think Randy, but yeah, Randy very accurately

told us you don't like the later you go in the week, the more crowded it gets. And we met

a couple journalists to talk about BAT and some local partners and some potential local partners

we did most of that on Wednesday. And a lot of those people were out. They were like done after

Wednesday. And now I see why? Because when we were there as you would me out Thursday,

we could barely move through the whole. Totally getting our steps in, but also like

jam packed. Like couldn't move like frozen at some points. The crowds were so thick and only thicker

after that, I think. Yeah, there was a few points where you feel like you're standing in a line

even though there's nothing to line up for. But because there's amazing stuff to look at,

right? I mean, these people aren't just like coming for no reason. Man, I just think it's incredible.

The links that the displays go to to make it awesome. I don't know what, like there's

nothing. It's like that. Did you ever get a car shows as a kid? It's like that. But everybody

has awesome stuff and is trying really hard. Instead of you kind of go to those and you're like,

oh, they scattered like four Suzus out on this rug. And you're like, okay, great. No, here it's like

there's a stage and there's lightings and their ferns and they're like only incising you to come

with refreshments and all this sort of stuff. I mean, it's no wonder there's wall-to-wall people

because it's, I think it's so cool. One of the things we were talking about. So at that point,

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I came where I was like, do I want to riva?

The boat spread. Was it singing? Yeah, I was not excited to snap you in there. I got like secret

access to the riva lounge and the scene behind there. I wish I would have been with you guys when

I was hanging out back there. I was like, I was looking at the riva. You don't have to go

to riva life. But man, that whole thing. I've been anti-boat until this last weekend. That's

also a big one. That was a big one. That was a 40 or 45 foot boat. Super legit riva from 64 or 65. And

it was like up on a pedestal. So you were like, looking up at it. Like it was levitating. And oh,

man, what a machine. To your point, Randy, there's nothing like it in the US. That's one of the

things we kept talking about, right? Zach, you said this, too. It's not a trade show. It's not a

parts show, but it's not for OEMs, but it's not really a classic car show. Some things are for sale,

but I mean, it's kind of a mix of a bunch of different things that we have here.

But the interesting part of that we might as well throw it down right now is their announcement that

they started to you up, buddy. They announced while we were there, they like making announcements too

while their events going on. They just announced that they're going to do one a retro meal in New

New York. So people should mark their calendars for that. They're not doing it this year. It's

going to be 2026 fall of 2026 in New York. And we were there with the 16th hour of low shaped folks

who are from New York. And they were like, ooh, they're like cracking their knuckles.

Like ready to go. Ready to rock. But yeah, we've often, some people were like, hey, do you have a big

BIT stand here? We don't typically do that stuff, but come to the US is interesting. And the people that

run that show, I have big respect for. They seem to do things right and know how to put together a

really cool event. So we'll see what they do. But I think people should certainly go. It certainly

stokes car enthusiasm in ways that a lot of other on-site events don't do as well anymore.

Totally. But that's sort of feeling like I wanted to fly you guys all the way there so that we

could see it and experience it. And I think that will hold true in New York as well.

A lot of the people were there. A lot of people we'd seen in Arizona. Maybe we should call

that auction week also. That also everything should wait. There's like eight auction weeks a year.

I'd be blessed you to be in freaking Paris. But I mean, we're staying right next to the

Grand Palais, which is where it was Bonham's was the auction there. We went to the RM

auction, which was under the Louvre. So I mean, there's other things happening around as well.

You can make a week out of that one without any problem. Shout out to still

Best Car of the Weekend is the Mercedes Vans we're rolling around. Oh my god, those club seating

Mercedes Vans. Class on your Uber. You got to go to Uber Van. I messed that up once on my Uber call.

But then you go to Uber Van and you get a Mercedes Vito and you rip around. Yes.

Remember that one we wrote around it with the like story lighting. Yeah.

Like being in a gentleman's club. It was totally amazing cruising across town. Anyway,

we had a lot of fun zipping around town. It was an absolute delight. It was so delightful to be

there with you guys. Shout out to our OG local partner in Europe, Kenan, who was there. We got

a little time with Kenan, which was great. Shout out to Mechanicus who invited us to their

facility. They were great. Anthony and his Germany local partner expansion as well was hanging

with us. Absolutely. Diane had a great time with her and Anthony. So it was a good hang.

Some of our sellers were there. Steve Syria was at our hotel. So we got a really good, you know,

everyone was there. And also, I mean, for me, the most delightful part was hanging out with you guys.

Almost took it for granted, but being in a foreign country with you guys was awesome.

We should do that sort of stuff more. I love it. I agree. Yeah. There's a lot of cars. While we were

there, there were cars live on the site in France, live on the site in Germany, live on the site,

Belgium, Netherlands. There's a lot of opportunity over there. And we're there. A lot of people are

asking, like, how do I get my car on BT? How do I do it? Are you officially here? And we're like, yes,

people like go do it. But sometimes are there buyers here? That was a question you got a lot.

Yeah. Starting from the press, right? The press wanted to hear about that. What's going on?

Are all these cars ship into America? And the cool part of it is it's really interesting how

the audience numbers have a bias towards North America, but it's sales of cars in Europe. Half

of them stick around in Europe and half of them come here. And that sort of rose a lot of eyebrows.

When we'd say that, people were like, oh, really? People are selling from Germany to France and from

France to Belgium and that sort of stuff. And that's common. And we're building more and more

momentum in that way so that people can list everything from, you know, pre-war stuff to modern GT

3s in Europe. So that's coming. Keep an eye. I subscribe. I don't know if you guys do. I

didn't like subscribe or like crazy on BT. But the listed in Europe category is a lot of fun to

get alerts about because it's all the time. Interesting stuff. You're watching that, you know,

coop. I'm watching that, you know, coop. I'm watching all the flags shout out to our engineering

team, the little flags that pop across the top. So you can see where the countries are. I love that.

Look, my favorite new feature would be watching for that Parisian delivery old tornado. That's

what I'm watching. So we can tease in that. You got to tell the story. So my favorite thing that I

stumbled across is the under 30 K zone. I made Zach go look at it. He was like, whatever.

You made him walk on that was like all the way to the corner. Zach was like, why are we walking?

I did my steps. It's fine. It's like 4X the size of every other car there. But delivered new

to Paris silver, old store, not a French plates. Man, I wait, wait, you're though. That's a 66, right?

I can't remember the year. It made a 66, 67. I thought, yeah, I can't remember which one it was,

but really nice. And what an interesting car to drive around Paris in, right?

It was 67. Like you're, you can have all these crazy European cars. And somebody in Paris

was like, I want a new old front drive, Toronto and silver. And it had these cool decals in the back

glass of was it a club? Was it an old mobile club or was it Paris old mobile? I can't remember

parking or whatever. These really period looking stickers in it. It had probably been repainted.

Who knows? But it was nice. It had low cams, stock, low kilometer. And just what a crazy car

to be just cruising around amazing, seeing that thing parked in the 60s in Paris, knowing two

two CVs could fit in that space. Yeah, they're not been there, right? But like the styling of it

everything, it just seemed right. It kind of has like a, you know, and silver is an unusual color.

I'm not sure if it's what I would choose here, but out under the cloudy sky is like

cars in some roundabout over there. And so I was just like, this would be perfect. Yes,

agree. I was really stoked on you. And you immediately left this to emotional remark.

I mean, you're like, best car the week for me. You're like, best car. This is the best car.

I'm thinking about it the most totally. And there's like all these two different Ferraris and

short wheelbases. There's a white McLaren F1 there, right? Would Zach shout it out one night

for some. And Alex is like, yeah, old story, not oh, that's what I'm thinking about the most.

We got to give you a tornado and a vintage cigarette holder.

There were definitely six smoked in that car. A, B, also need a cigarette holder for that,

for sure. White EB 110 was also very strong. Oh, that was fun dissecting that with you.

Getting up close to that much smaller than I thought in person. Yeah, that was cool.

Yeah, everything from supercars there to so many guys that's roughly yellow type 35. I've

been thinking about that a lot. That was in one of the one of the big kind of dealer displays.

CLK GTR been thinking about that a lot. That was green 906. Did you guys see that?

Yeah, who I missed green 906. I love it. I know it's over 904, which we were debating whether

it was real or not. Talking about that. There was a green 906. I didn't see that. Yeah,

but this cool color. The Irish green. Fantastic. Robert Redford had a green 906. What if that was

that one? 906. Did he really? Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of cool. I didn't know that.

Had a six in a four in it at various times, I think, had a Furman 4K.

Talked to me about CLK GTR 1998. D2 Privat. Leverie. Oh, God. To me about that.

I know. I know. What do you know? It's like cars there. Was this car 30 feet in the air?

Simple. Yes. Stony. Has this car ever been upside down at speed? Did they do all those wheels?

No, maybe not one. I don't think it was that wide. That one had a different

livery and who knows what? But that car is presence. That car is serious presence.

I mean, you said this rainy before we went, but so many cars that you wouldn't necessarily

stumble across here or right in the US, which is like when you talk about opportunity,

that not that we're going to be, I mean, I would love to list all those cars. Not that we're

going to be listing all these multimillion dollar for our worries, but cars that

significant car. Another one I keep thinking about is the one Manuel Fengio C type, which is like

an actual specific chassis number car that I love that Chris Harris drove many years ago on a video

in the melee revival in Italy. That car was there. It was on the Fiskins standard, I think.

It was. Everyone calls it the Jensen button car. I guess he must be the owner of it, but like,

I think of it as it was delivered new to Fengio, like that's what I care about. And it's kind of

sprawling a little more weight in my household. Brad, but like Fengio's like, I mean, come on.

And it's a brown C type and it's probably my favorite. It's just for Fengio is Jensen button's hero.

Right. That puts it in context totally. There you go. Totally. And if there was walk around,

it was kind of scruffy and it's always been used a lot. It's like probably my favorite Jaguar

bar none. So seeing stuff like that is mind blowing. I was talking to some British guys and some

sort of Jag real experts way beyond me. I would, are you all of us like really people in that world

and on that same stand, they were raving about the Briggs Cunningham car that was like a between D type

and E type car kind of homebrew looking thing, which I'm not an expert on listeners on the

pot. I'll be jumping up and down be like, that's the this car. American livery white with loose stripes,

right? I was joking with these British guys at dinner who were great. I was like, yeah,

in America, we call that the Briggs Cunningham J. And they were like, we don't call it that.

That it was really funny. It looked a little bit like a list. I had some list of odds. It

would have had all these external rivets. And they were like, okay, the brown car has all this

and these stories and whatever. But the white car is like moment in time, amazing one of one.

You know, one, its race is preserved. It's like the real thing. These guys were like bowed down.

Like, that's the car. That's a really big deal. And me as just like a passerby, I'd been like,

show me the C type. Show me the two type. But these guys were like, that car is a huge deal.

And it was kind of now that I think about it. It was center stage. It was like in the middle of the

place. We never were marking on the rivets, which was weird. It was riveted like an airplane.

Yeah. That car, they had some weird custom bodywork that made it a little more

mystery, sort of unusual looking. But I was pleased to have seen that car in person.

But that kind of stuff was everywhere. That kind of stuff was everywhere there, which is wild.

We probably walked past so many significant cars.

Totally. And there were some more people like, did you see that car? I never saw it.

They're like, that was a car of show. There was a D type somewhere. I missed it.

Is that right? Yeah. So many gold wings, so many type 35s, like all these cars.

Baby Bugatti's everywhere. Somebody must be cranking out replicas of those.

Like African mantra tend. Totally. Totally.

Totally. It's some very cool stuff. Amazing stuff. And what a pleasure to do with you guys.

Parting thoughts, Zach? None.

You'll go back. No, no, no. I need more than that. Will you ever go back to that? Never.

I would go. Only if you guys are there. Yeah. I don't think I would do it as a silly trick.

I love you, man. But I would go without you. I would go. I would go with that about you.

With you, that's the difference of our person. I would go with you. I would love to go with you.

But if you're like, no, I'm staying home that weekend. I'm like, I'm going. I'll see you there.

I'll let you know how it is. So I just love it. I'm glad

that we all went out of phenomenal time. It was very generous of you to bring us all out.

And I think there was like a very clear objective on behalf of BAT. But for me, on a personal level,

like static display car events done. You're done with it. It just doesn't

get me out of bed in the same way as like at this point, I will like do something,

a drive a thing, see something driving a little more attractive. So I mean, where were we going

to spy for the next time you in? Are you in? You love that stuff. Randy, you love Goodwood.

Where would you kind of rank this in like dream euro events that you have gone to or things

that you would want to do? I mean, is it top five? Is it though your favorite thing? Would you

rather go to Goodwood? It is top five, but it's you should see it certainly once. So Zach's point

of view is probably common for some people. There's like a social dynamic at this one where it's like

you're there for three days and you pick three different sets of folks. You got some little

yeah, moto, some little you have Yoshimura. That's my moto account by being worked on right now.

You got some displacement in that thing, man. We'll see if that simmers down.

We've got all the folks coming to the office and they're like it might be too loud. I'm like for

you to pod while we're there. And I'm like, you should hear the motorcycle shop when we're potting.

This is like this is like the fourth unofficial like chair of the podcast is the motorcycle shop.

Totally. Okay. Now it's subsided mostly. Shout out to the shop next door. We'd like to say that.

But anyway, it's a very cool show. It is static. That's super different than going to a Goodwood

or going to a spa six hours or going to drive yourself through the Alps or do like there's so

many European things to do that are awesome. But this one in terms of quality of cars that are all

in one place, I struggled to think other than maybe Goodwood revival of like where else are all

the cars going to show up and you're like, dang, go there and just see that. But it's a middle

of weight, right? You get outside of his freezing or it's raining or it's whatever else, right?

It's like Harrison February is also interesting. We got lucky with the weather there.

The first show that you missed was like unbelievable. Like we were landing and I was like, we're low

in the runway. It was fall right on the target. I know he's watching the front. The air france

bike gives you the front cam and it's just all a wall of cloud until you feel a plain touch. Yep.

So we weren't there for the weather. But now I just I just think that's a very cool event that

everybody should go to. But where does it rank? I don't know. I mean, if you want seat time,

it ranks as zero, right? Sure. Or if you want mountain top views or beach vibes or whatever,

it ranks as zero. But is it interesting? Is the crowd interesting or the cars interesting? Is what

they're trying to do? Interesting from just a... I don't know. I like taking the temperature of like

what kind of cars people are into and what the general public's into versus real deep car people.

What does it say about the state of the hobby? Yep. I just think that the people that run it are

cool and the event is cool and the rivalry between some of the booths is kind of interesting to watch

from the sidelines and the auction. If you go to these Arizona auctions, you kind of get a feel

for what U.S. is like or you go to Monterey or wherever. This one's different. You looked at the

cars there and some of them were kind of scruffy and different. It's just a different approach.

And I think that texture and that difference makes it worth doing. And I'm not going to do it every

year, but I'd go back again. But I also love that you say no more static. We need BAT track days.

Well, I'm in. And I'm in. I like going with you and Alex because I feed off your enthusiasm.

And that's the fun part of me. But yeah, just great solo car events. I'm looking for a little more

interaction. Yep. That's fair enough. How about you? I loved it. Like I said, up top, I got to take

my wife, which was fun too. So I got to do a little bit of Parisian sightseeing. Get to go to the

military museum. La Salle de l'Ede went to San Chappelle, which is my favorite cathedral there.

And we went to some, did some excellent dining. So that kind of heightened the experience for me.

I actually was like kind of, I thought this was what you were going to say, Zach, but I was maybe

the most interested in taking the temperature of where BAT stands and how people are thinking

about it. For me, it was very informative about the state of things in Europe and how BAT can

serve it and what our challenges might be and what our opportunities are. And so that, I know,

ready with part of the main reason you wanted us all to go. And that almost came naturally. And I

think it is because the event is so multi-fast because all the people are there both the crowds.

So you get to see kind of what Europeans are excited about just your average European car

fan. But also all the players are there selling cars. We ran into, like I said, a bunch of people

we'd seen in Arizona, but then this wide mix of cars. And I don't know, it really did feel like in

two days I was able to absorb a lot of lessons about the state of collector cars in Europe.

Yeah. So I found that very valuable. I like static car events. Like you said, I get excited

easily. So it was easy for me to get enthusiastic about Oldsmobile tornadoes. So you can take me

almost anywhere around cars, especially around you guys. And I get excited. So I had just an

absolute ball. It was fun hanging with Anthony. I liked all the parts of it.

We had a lot of good interactions, a lot of cool folks. But no, I'm taking this to heart. I love

your guys' feedback and thinking about where we need to be when I'm over there. Oftentimes,

are they Anthony from 16th of a low J. We'd look out at a room like that. And we're like,

when it'd be fascinating if these people just instead of coming to these huge shows,

because we don't have these shows, right? It's a different vibe here in America.

There's a German one. There's a Belgian one. There's a Netherlands one. There's several in the UK.

There's this big French one that we were at. There's one in Bologna and Italy that I went to a year ago.

You're like, be wild if you just turned all this inventory in 10 days on BAD.

100%. All of it could be gone in 10 days. Like this whole room,

of cars, and then you need it all over again. And the mentality there of

willingness to sit on inventory. So we were laughing about it a little bit. Just chuckling about

it and being like, I wonder how many of these cars will still be in inventory in a year.

And there's some good percentage of them that will, right? And it's kind of like the time value

of money and the dealer mentality and even those 30,000 and under guys put a 29 grand.

What are they? What's really worth? Is it worth 19? Is it worth 21? And we're like,

you and I would chuckle and be like, oh, it's like a car,

Corral, right? With facial signs. And you're like, okay, that's a keeper price.

Yeah, okay, right? Like a rough notchback Mustang that's 29,000.

You're like, you know what? That's a keeper. That car we're going to see you in another year.

And don't give you another spot in the Corral again. And you can try again next year.

So it's just fascinating to think of the mentality in America where it's like you can get

a good price and you can sell a car rapidly instead of the, you know, let's have 20 dinners

together before we sell the car to you to make sure the handoffer. It's just, it's just,

it's kind of wild to look at. And I think that cultural difference, you can't just

barge into that and be like, we're going to sell all these cars in seven days, obviously. But

the potential for what a model like BAT can do over there. What it has done in North America

and what it can do over there for some of those cars to unlock a efficient handoff of the cars.

100% so inefficient to trailer all these cars in and then sit on them and mark them for sale

and then ship them home again and then negotiate for five weeks. It's just, it's old timey in a way,

which is charming. It's not good business, but it's charming, right? So it's kind of fun to watch.

I can appreciate that retro mobile alumni is the antithesis of BAT alumni. Keep showing up every

year at the same car. Totally, totally, totally. I mean, yeah, the thing that I kept

thinking about when I was there as I've been recounting the show to our colleagues here is like

it's a lot of opportunity for BAT there. It's needed. I don't know if everyone realizes yet,

but we're needed over there. You can do some good. So hopefully, I mean, just giving people an

alternative, not forcing it, but just like if people want it, here it is. Here's a different way,

right? So anyway, we'll see how that goes. In the next year, maybe we go back to Ristwell

Bill and see what has changed in the next year. We'll get a car that's at Can Drive around.

Yeah, I can just drive one of those vans around Paris. We'll get you the one with the race

and he'll have some, yeah, he'll have some motion. What other, you saw the tour. I was trying to

think of my Sony street park car. I mean, it's winter. You know, actually, what I saw that was

the highlight of my, it's not, it wasn't street park. It was water parked. No, it was in a

car parked on a boat. Yes. This is actually, you saw it in, you saw it in Amsterdam.

No, I saw this in Paris. Oh, really? Oh, one of those like river barges by morning.

Wow. I love the ride jogging. It's like 30 degrees out. It's actually, it was 30 degrees

out. It meant this is like a way less boring than, or way more boring than Zach's,

infocar sighting. But I saw on my last day, Rick, before I left on the final day, I saw a GTD,

which is the GTI diesel. Yes, they have those. And I've always liked those. I've read about them.

I'd never seen one. I wasn't kind of that Nardo, like, oh, look at that, Randy.

DB five. Yeah, I was on the street crossing a crosswalk or J walking or doing whatever.

And a silver DB five comes around the corner and almost clipped me. And I was like, that's rad.

Well done. Well done, sir. Yeah, there wasn't a ton of, I remember last time I was there,

again, over 20 years ago, like a lot of the, like kind of French city cars,

just like the common cars were exciting. It's a little bit more humdrum around the streets of Paris.

Did you see what it these parked? Oh, I did see one of those. Oh, I saw a bunch of those.

You know what I saw? When I was walking to, those are Citroën's.

Well, I was walking to Lissonville, Eden. I should have taken a picture. I didn't know the little Honda

electric cities. Yes, yes, yes, yes, those are over there. Yeah, what are those called again?

They're like a retro CVCC kind of, but they're elected. They're cool looking. That's the first

one I've, that's the first one I've seen. There's, there's just available to the public, I guess.

But man, I saw one of those and I was like, that's awesome. I sat in a julienne a TI that

belonged to the press of the French outfit. Look at that. Look at that. Good color on that.

That's a pretty choice. I showed it in my picture. We were instant friends.

That looks like it belongs in the Michael Mann Ferrari movie like driving. There you go.

Speaking of course, it's smoking. That was one of them, totally. Anyway, terrific deal. Really glad we

got to recap it. I really value traveling with you guys and hanging out with you guys. It was

really, really fun. So I wish we had Howard here to get his point of view. He always had some

funny things to say about Europe. He said so many different trips to Europe over his life. But

that was kind of the four of us running around. It was great. Last one here for you, Zach. See this

car, 993 cup black. No, sorry. That was an archery. No, no, no, no. It was beautiful. Wow.

The one at archery wasn't a cup and it was pretty scrappy. Yeah. That one, that one was a career

RS with graphics on the side and was cool. Yeah. So that has the normal cup wheels, but this has

the center. Oh, yeah. And the, I think they, well, they've made some. Yeah, those are center

lock. No lug. They're the two piece speed line. Yeah. And man, I love 993 cups. And this one

was all just black. Oh, I'll start for get it. Very good. Anyway, I can keep going through my phone,

photos here of all sorts of noise. But it was great. Great to be there with you guys.

What a pleasure. The big takeaway for me was via there with you guys, it always makes it more fun.

Same. We didn't have enough beers crushed at the end. I know, I know, I know. I had a few.

Where were you guys? That's what I'm saying. We've kind of scattered a little bit. But we did

let one big dinner with everybody. But then I was running around like, oh, you always have all kinds

of stuff. I was sitting in Arizona, like a crazy person, trying to find some way into the

tour auto. That was what I was doing. Running all over town, finding some way to grease the

application process to get me into the tour auto Germany next. Right. I mean, what is it in Germany?

Stines. Stines of Peru. Are we going to October fest? Maybe we should.

Okay. Then there was a really good car step to do. I can come up with a unique activity. Please

do. Very easily. And we can it could be in motion, Zach. It doesn't have to be static.

Great. I would go that perfect place to close it. I'm going to hold you, gentlemen,

to that. Thanks guys for doing this. And thanks to everybody for listening. We appreciate your

feedback. As always, you can send that to podcast at bringatrailer.com. We will catch you next time.

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