Doug Bought A 993 Turbo! Genesis Supercar and the Audi G-Wagon! THIS CAR POD! EP88

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Hello and welcome to this car pod.

I'm Felipe.

I'm Nick.

Nick's filling in here, because Kenan's out of town for thanks, giving the podcast is

a day late.

Thanksgiving screwed up everything.

It's a big deal.

Everything.

But the biggest deal of all, Felipe, you want to tell him?

After months of consideration.

Yeah.

Two months ago.

Doug Bob, a 9.3 turbo.

I bought a 9.9.3 turbo.

It happened a while ago.

OK, I've been on the pod joking.

Oh, I want to know.

It actually, I'd already gotten one.

And some interesting things have happened.

I realized from this.

Please.

The people became I rate that I wouldn't consider there a 9.9.3 turbo.

Like I was, I was, I was, if you have a big Instagram account, you don't,

you get DMs from people you follow.

But then there's like a section of people that if you don't follow them,

it goes into some, yeah, OK, request, because they don't want people

sending weird stuff to sororities, not that I'm one, but Instagram.

OK, so I go into that request folder a couple of, I never check that folder.

Ever.

That's how you get invitations to review the Aspark Owl.

You get cool stuff in that.

I go into that folder a lot of day.

He's a guy who's been hammering me for weeks.

Why we, OK, here's my 9.3 turbo.

Why would you not consider?

Why have you not replied to me?

Why are you, why are you not bought by 9.9.3 turbo?

Oh my God, Jesus.

So I bought a 9.9.3 turbo.

How is it?

It's good.

Yeah.

What color is it?

Now, I do want to say something, I want to say something.

Go to the shot that shows just then.

I want to say something.

You guys could have known that I bought my 9.9.3 turbo.

Go get that license plate.

The day I bought the car, which I think was eight weeks ago,

I took the, this was the original license plate on the car,

and I put it on the pod set.

And if anybody had bothered to do a Vinwicky,

is that how Vinwicky works?

I don't know.

I think it's been based.

Well, you, but you can usually put a plate in and it turns into a Vin.

You want to know, you would have returned to a 1996 Porsche 9.11 turbo.

And you said, me, fascinating.

Yeah, there was a hidden trick.

And from now on, anytime we buy a car,

we'll put a hidden trick somewhere in the podcast set.

I'm not agreeing to this.

Yeah, because you're never going to buy a car.

How many miles have you done in your 9.9.3 turbo?

I bought the car and cars had 58.5 or something when I bought it.

I'm at like 16th now, it's like 1,500 miles.

I'm taking it to Ferra's on Monday.

Whoa, it's been to LA five times.

That'll be six.

I love it.

I love using it for, for regular driving.

I'm surprised how much I missed having a sports car that isn't quite so attention,

attention, and just a lot.

Like even the 4GT, which is sort of the most usable sports car I have,

it's a lot.

It's low.

It's, it's, it's, it's rough, you know,

riding people freak out when they see it at gas stations.

It's nice to have a car that literally nobody cares about or pays attention to, including

Nick.

Other than Porsche Files, who I'm sure lose it.

No one ever spotted you in the two months you've been driving this now.

I saw you ones on the freeway, but like, and you're pretty, I mean, you got no tint

and you're a big guy.

Like, it's very clearly.

I actually took it to a couple of car events.

And obviously people there then kind of knew what, because I'm, you know, drive the car

and I met with my fellow journalists, some of whom I actually personally know.

I wasn't trying to conceal it, but no, I guess not.

It never worked.

That's wild.

Yeah.

That shows you how below the radar really is.

Yeah.

Literally nobody cares about this car.

Except if you go on run list, there are people who really care about this car.

And I'm sure they're going to hate me dearly for owning one every time I buy a car.

It's like, dogma one.

He's not a real enthusiast of the car.

And it's like, all right.

Well, I think run list might change their mind and realize you are a Porsche guy.

You're one of them.

You are one of them.

Like a special badge or like font color option on run list that'll tell everyone you're

an OG.

I'm not a, I'm not a Porsche guy.

Hey, how many Porsches are you on now?

Well, I've had the same number of Porsches as Nissan's.

Do you consider me a Nissan guy?

Sure.

That cannot facially be accurate.

I had a Skyline GTR R32.

I had a S Cargo snail and I had a cube.

How many Porsche?

And I've had three Porsche corporate cars for years, years ago, I had a 996 twin turbo

for four months.

And then the Kroger GT and now this a 993 twin.

I see remember you crashing a Panamera into a tree.

I crashed a 997 into a tree and I crashed a Panamera into a guy in a 98 Ford Explorer

actual.

So how are you going to be counting those are now?

They were company car.

Oh, yeah.

I also have like loophole that's used a lot.

Well, it was, listen, if I had worked for, if I hadn't been able to choose any company

car at that time, I wouldn't have chosen Porsche.

Whistland needs to try to use the company car argument with no success.

So I think you need to save it.

Starting off, guess what I did at the dealership when I bought this car.

Drop 15 Gs in sales tax.

Sean was sitting with me when I did it right there at the dealership and I got to tell

you something.

I was thinking about this.

We went, me and Sean went up.

Go to the next picture.

Yeah.

Show Sean.

Oh, God.

There it is.

There's me and Sean is bad color G wagon next to my great color 9-11, massively different

colors agree.

And Sean drove me up there and you know what I realized?

We and by we, I mean the two of us and other people who are our friends, some of whom appear

on some of our content.

Sure.

Have gone to enormous lengths over a long period of time since we've lived, since we've

had cars.

Yeah.

To shadily get cars registered.

To avoid smog, to avoid sales tax, to avoid right like, I don't know what you're talking

about.

No, no, no.

The man rovers sure does never take any shortcuts.

But.

There was something beautiful about going to the dealer.

Yeah.

Paying.

For a local car, the plates came in the mail, the sale, the car was a service like so many

cars I buy that are neglected and are in some weird registration state.

And I then have to figure all this stuff out.

And it was so nice.

I came home at 2 p.m. this day, the car was in the garage and I have it to do a thing.

And I'm like, oh my God, is this what it's like when people buy cars?

What did the plates not stay on?

Because the only one plate was with the car and they didn't want to sell a car with

only one plate.

And it was the front.

So I agree.

I even bought a car from dealer and forever.

Yeah.

However, don't you feel like they just concentrate all of the pain in four hours.

Like you sit there and you're like, I got to talk to the finance manager and then talk

about floor mats.

So then like they're going to pull a credit check and you're like, I don't need to do

that.

I'm considering I show up with a personal just to buy the car, the personal check.

However, it was amazing.

It was so nice.

I bought Scarford Portia Santa Clarita, which is up north of LA.

And it was just so nice to be able to do this.

I agree that it's a painful four hours.

But the experience that I typically have is, I mean the kuntosh, okay, I got to get it

over the border.

I got to pay duty, right?

Because it was in Canada.

Right.

I have to figure out who will accept a Canadian registration because Canada doesn't do

titles.

Who will accept a Canadian registration for a US title?

Then you got to figure out, okay, smog, how are we going to figure out emissions?

How are we going to figure it out?

Next got to go and get service.

And guess what?

The guy who services kuntosh is not two minutes away at the Portia dealer.

He's in Ohio.

And the car goes there.

And it's like all that legwork and this, oh my God, I just bought a car and it was, what

did I base the experience?

And that's that.

Flip, are you excited?

I'm excited.

I do have a question.

You got to go to the app, significant.

Right?

Are you going to lower it?

Slam it?

Yeah, European.

The US cars.

All right, this is the my most controversial take ever.

The rentless community.

If you're into these cars, people will be astonished by the take.

I think the US ride height on 993 turbos looks better.

It's enormously tall.

The euro cars were enormously lower.

And it's an enormously tall situation.

And on rentless, they refer to it as the SUV ride height.

However, my personal belief is that the car has significant overhangs.

I mean, they're kind of laughable relative to the wheelbase, actually.

And when you lower the car, when you lower the car, it really emphasizes the edges.

Because when you raise the car, it has sort of a more complete overall profile.

But when you lower the car, you kind of pull visually, you pull the whole car, stretch

it out.

And I think it looks silly.

Like lower.

Ultimately, they added bodywork over the years to the original 911, but they didn't add

wheelbase.

And so it looks a little strange from some angles.

But it drives great.

And I love using it.

And I've got car seats in it.

And we cut the leather.

Wow.

We're excited that you have it.

Oh, great.

Really?

Any other modifications planned?

I put in the Porsche radio.

Porsche has this car play radio.

Yep.

Those are cool.

And that's it.

That's all I'm going to do.

It's like a three inches tall.

It's the smallest screen.

Have you seen the car play screen?

No.

It's laughable.

But I can picture where it would be.

My wife gets it.

She's like, this is the smallest screen I've ever seen in my entire, you can't even read

the time.

Like when I'm looking at, it's giving it directions.

And I'm like, do you have to like lean over like interest?

Well, that's why you got to get the Porsche watch, you know?

Right.

The underneath the time.

You get some of a Porsche gun.

I mean, are you not?

Am I any sun guy?

You can sit next to me.

It's like a duck in it.

It looks like a duck.

I mean, he sounds young right now.

Well, I don't own any.

Porsche is young right now.

Yeah, exactly.

All right, move on to our next new story.

Oh, this thing.

Genesis comes out with this, which is a concept car called the wingback.

Nick, what is an actual wingback?

The Rikaro European option seats with the nice wings on the back, sort of where the seatbelts

go through.

But for all the seats.

Well, I like them for the B7 RS4, but they came in a lot of great Audi VW products

out there.

That's a wingback.

Okay.

It's cool in the name, but they've made a pretty cool car out of it.

Yeah.

We'll allow a G90 station wagon, which is odd because the G90 is a full-size car.

So it'd be like making an S-Class station wagon.

It's a little bit unusual.

This is not a market segment that the automakers are participating in, really.

And if you look at the Tykon Cross Treesmo or the Panamera Cross, whatever, it's not doing

that well.

I guess the RS6 as well.

E63 is okay.

Both of those though are the mid-size car.

The new M5.

Yeah, I just like launching a wagon.

It's a tough commercial proposition.

Clearly, though.

And I, by the way, I don't think this is going to make production.

I'd be surprised.

Yeah.

Move on to the next story.

Yeah.

They've also announced this, which is called the Magma GT.

So Genesis has the, is releasing and finally after talking about it for quite a while, doing

first drives of the Magma GV60.

So the GV60 is their smallest CV.

The Magma version is like BMW M or Mercedes-AMG.

As a part of that, as a part of the first drives of the GV60, they also secretly reveal

that G90 went back and the Magma GT, which, by the way, is not an EV.

We don't know.

They've said that they haven't decided on powertrain, but the Mag, Genesis is entering

a bunch of racing series.

They're going to be inside, they're going to be in some other series that I know nothing

about.

We'll be transparent here.

But they have said in interviews, literally this week, that they're planning for Magma

GT to be a full line of cars.

It is not just a homologation models required for the racing series, that they're not building

just 30 of something to homologate it and be eligible to race.

They're planning a full line up.

They've compared it, or at least some articles, have compared it to the 911 lineup, where

there will be multiple stair-cept models, some that are like GT3 homologation and some that

are maybe a cabular version, or a regular coupe, or whatever.

Like, this is going to be a full onslaught of sporty products from Jeff.

This is a big deal.

Future.

It's funny.

It's funny, we're not condes so much for being conservative, and the Koreans just are

not concerned.

They're like, okay, Genesis is out, now we're ready to make a luxury station wagon concept

and do a mid-engine car, and we're going to do all this stuff that other brands probably

should have done.

We're just going to do it.

The freighter, that concept car that I did, that off-road concept car, same deal.

They see the market segment.

They go after it, as opposed to the wait and see approach that so many brands do.

And this thing, I mean, this is a C8 Corvette rival, right, or an R8 rival, or something.

It looks, I mean, it's not like this is a silly concept car with no mirrors.

No, no, no.

Like, this is looking not unreasonable to going up, but they have a GT3 car, right?

They've been doing a bunch of work on that to enter racing series.

It makes sense that they need to build some, and like, this is a great starting point,

especially if they plan on expanding that line.

Because they have to homologate.

They have to homologate cars.

30 or so.

Yeah.

Which even then, by the way, even going GT3 racing is like such a, we're trying

to reach this certain market segment that is, you know, kind of an aspirational for a new luxury brand.

Well, here's a cool car to do it.

Hyundai has been speaking very publicly in the last couple of weeks about the fact that for

the last couple of quarters or maybe last year or so, they believe that they're the number

two most profitable automaker after Toyota.

Toyota leads the charge on profitability.

They've said that they beat out Volkswagen on profitability.

Genesis has always been a bit of a question mark.

They make cars, they do okay, but they've never really kind of found a brand identity.

This would be the start of like, what is Genesis?

Maybe it's actually a racing car.

And certainly getting people interested, you know, the sports cars, and Audi proved it

with the R8.

And some brands have failed doing it, like Lexus and the LFA, which I consider a failure

on its face, but it was also a failure to do what they were trying to do, which was get

people into dealerships.

Or like, infinity has tried to go racing, and yeah, right, or go to Europe.

But this car, you could really see, like, if this came out, we'd all be like, damn,

wait a minute.

Genesis is cool.

Yes, totally.

And then you come out with that GV90, the big boy, and we have, well, the GV90.

The GV90.

Yeah, that's like a range competitor.

Yeah.

It's over here.

I want a full size range, not any more.

GV90.

You want a GV90 in a wingback.

I do want a wingback.

I want to drive off the road like Tiger Woods.

That was a GV80.

I know.

Wow, a Tiger Woods reference.

Tiger Woods has had some car incidents.

I do think that there's clearly enthusiasts that are helping spur the development line here

and to your point, not only they've under new segments, but they're taking big swings.

I mean, even though, like, Palisade is like, it's pretty gutsy in terms of the styling.

Yeah, that's, yeah.

This looks like something Steve Hamilton would get upset that the production is delayed

more.

Like, it looks like a hypercar, not a supercar.

I agree with that.

And the Palisade is gutsy.

You know, Kunde and Kia both kind of saw this market segment for these boxy vehicles.

The other automakers were like, oh, we're going to maybe try to add a little boxy touch.

And Hyundai and Kia were like, we're just going to do it.

And as Toyota and Honda and Nissan have kind of sat on the sidelines like hoping to maybe

do something, Hyundai and Kia have just been like, yeah, I'm just going to do it.

And it's been incredibly successful.

They've had an unbelievably successful 10 years or so.

Yep.

And I'm excited for Genesis.

I kind of developed their own identity to develop sporty models to do things that really

appeal to enthusiasts because going just like a little luxury hasn't really worked.

That's the one thing that Hyundai and Kia and Genesis have not been able to really get

after is enthusiasts.

Like, there, when I make a list of cars that I want and think about, you know, varied

countries and engine sizes, Korean car never comes close.

Like, is there what cars since 19, or since 2005, have you cared about it?

A Tiberon.

Got.

Most.

That make your list.

Well, no, but a lot of performance cars.

But in terms of Korean cars, they've never, this singer, which I owned and loved, is

one of the very, very few.

Like, they've do a great job of hitting very successful mainstream products, like the

Telluride and the Palisade and the Tucson and so many others that they ionic five.

But, but going after enthusiasts is how you build like excitement.

Beyond just like, oh, this is a nice luxury car.

That's how we think of Lexus.

And they sell a lot.

But there's never been anybody excited about Lexus.

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Yeah.

And the president of the Genesis brand, the Chief Creative Officer, Luke Vonder Waltz.

Dunker Waltz.

Yeah, that.

Yes.

The Mercilago designer and the Audi A2 designer.

Yeah.

Right.

So he has obviously a very much a car enthusiast.

That's what he's pushing the brand matter in that direction.

Right.

And clearly, these are really, really, they're very cool cars.

I hope they both go into production.

I wouldn't be surprised if neither go into production in this form, but we can hope,

right?

Yeah.

Also a full lineup of, I got it.

Thank you.

Of Genesis, they're magma GT cars.

They're being incredibly cool.

Yeah.

Having a full lineup with 9.11 competitors that span it seems unlikely in the next short term.

Yeah.

But it would be really cool to have somebody else build out a whole brand though.

Remember, a full lineup of sports cars is a cool idea.

It would be cool.

BMW makes seven SUVs.

Genesis right now has two and a half, which one are you talking about?

The GV60.

Oh.

You don't think it's an SUV?

Looks like a hatchback.

The Ionic 5's a hatchback.

You agree?

Yeah.

The EV6 a hatchback.

So the GV60 by definition is a hatchback.

It's the same car.

It's just a different style.

You know what the thing is about the GV60 that really makes me think it's a hatchback.

You can walk up to it with your face and unlock the door.

You can't do that, Anast.

And when I think of an SUV, all right, what do you mean with your face?

Like your nose?

No.

You set up, like you know how your phone has like facial recognition.

You got to watch my GV60 video, dude.

Oh, I can't wait.

I don't think you should watch a lot of my videos, but that one, you set up facial recognition.

I don't even know what the GV60 looks like.

You've seen them.

They're around Ancinitas.

No, I have not.

Oh, I've seen them.

Yeah.

You set up facial recognition and then you walk up to the car and look at the door and it

unlocks.

Anyway, that's why I don't think it's an SUV.

Give us our next news story because there's a lot of good news.

Look at that 993 back there.

Beautiful.

We already talked a little bit about Hyundai somehow going from the Tiberon to the second

most profitable automaker.

Think about that.

Volkswagen.

I want to, I want to underscore one thing here.

Volkswagen has been trying to figure out the US market, but also expanding globally for

so many years.

Hyundai was making this, the Tiberon ended 2004.

I mean, what a glow up.

Yeah.

That's the owner of an early on South Korean product, the Kia Spectre that I have.

It's incredible to see where they are now.

The Kia Spectre was great.

Yeah.

This is like going from a money shifted TTRS to an SLR.

Just about.

All right.

This is a mini G wagon.

Yeah.

It is.

We've known that Mercedes is going to build a small version of the G wagon for a while.

Yeah.

But finally, there are actual spy shots of it.

It looks like a G wagon.

But small.

It doesn't look like a second generation G-Pliberty.

Pull up.

Yeah.

No, it does.

Pull up.

I was going to say GLB.

It does look like a GLB.

It'll look like a six in the city came back and that was like their halo car.

You go for second gen.

So you're going for the like the Dodge and I show version.

You didn't, you don't think it was like go back to the, go back to the little G thing,

but the inside's a little bit.

Tell me that dude, that's, I think they just, I think that just is a second gen G-Pliberty.

It does look like a GLB.

I mean, what are you going to do?

You're going to get to this car.

You got to make it small.

That second gen G-Pliberty had one of the worst and two.

Oh my god.

Can you go to that?

That whole Stellantis line up that was just like the worst of the worst.

It was just a Lantis that one.

The record to be clear.

Yeah.

Okay.

It was the Jeep Chrysler Dodge.

Whatever.

CDJR.

Eagle.

Yeah.

I like that they're testing two different wheels.

That's smart.

That just looks like a regular Mercedes wheel.

That wheel is the ugliest wheel I've ever seen in my entire life.

The rear door looks really small here.

Yeah.

This looks small.

It'll be a tight rear seat.

Certainly.

Look at that.

You need a garbage thing behind it.

Right.

It looks way bigger.

Or a van.

What is this is a mattress?

It does look small.

Honestly, what it looks to me like is a chimney and it almost looks chimney-sized.

I think they can't go that long.

Maybe they're upset with chimney bodies of the chimney.

Maybe they're upset with chimney body kits continuing to steal all their G-wagon sales.

I have to say the rear bumper looks chunky.

Yeah, no.

I'm excited to see what they do with it.

It just continues kind of the embarrassment of the G-wagon line.

But that's what the customers want.

Yeah.

Nope.

Sure.

We did not call it embarrassment.

We did not.

No.

G-wagons are all over LA.

This can be all over Riverside.

Boom.

All right.

Wow.

Shut up Riverside.

Okay.

This is interesting.

It has been announced.

And by announced, I mean implied and perhaps leaked but not actually announced that Audi is

going to do a G-wagon rival based on Scout.

The only reason I bring this up and Volkswagen has some massive interest financial interest

in Scout.

Maybe they own them.

I don't know.

Yeah.

They started on Scout.

We remember when Scout started.

The purchase of the America.

The first thing.

I will say by the way, the piece you have mentioned is Scout will build the model.

Okay.

It's not just code of belt by the only reason I'm bringing this up.

I don't care about any of that because to me, it's all pie in the sky BS.

This is 2028 model year at stop.

It doesn't.

What the reason I bring it up is because on this very podcast, the greatest automotive

podcast in San Diego, we predicted.

That this would happen.

Audi announced a few months ago, oh, we want it.

We're thinking about a G-wagon rival and we said, well, you know, it's interesting

because they have Scout.

I wonder if they'll match them up.

And now here we are.

Yep.

If you want to get your forward thinking bleeding edge automotive news, this is the

pot.

And also, we, we, we, we chill for that auction website.

What is it?

Carsinvids.com.

We got all sorts of stuff going on here.

By the way, a few creators got a chat.

They did some videos with the Scout prototypes.

They look really cool.

Are you implying that it should, one of them should have been me?

Well, I mean, going back to Hoover, the conversation was Hoover.

No, but Forrest Auto Reviews, who we obviously love, did like a bunch of walk around.

Forrest is it with the Scout?

Yeah.

I was a little jealous.

I sent it to Sean, a producer, a little man.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's okay.

It needs to go to this.

It looks really cool.

I think it'll be a really well received product.

I agree.

Because the Scout looks really cool.

And if, honestly, if this is all they do, it's a pretty appealing vehicle.

Would you, would you rather this or the Lincoln Bronco?

Both.

Wow.

I'm, I'm implying you have to choose.

I don't have to choose.

Okay.

This will be an EV.

The Lincoln Bronco would be a, a, a, a, a radio center EV, a gas car.

Here's what I want.

Ice.

I want a Lincoln Bronco.

Okay.

With a V8.

Everyone wants a V8.

Everyone wants a full size range.

I have a version for you.

What do you think the set up version of Audi's Lozier SUV would be called?

It would not be more.

And the reason for that is that none of these cars are allowed in Europe.

And you're thinking, what is the reason?

They're electric.

Europe loves electric.

I don't know.

But Europe will come up with some reason why these cars are banned.

Nick, are you familiar with the Fiat Exio?

Of course.

Yeah.

That, that I'm expecting this to continue.

It was, I mean, it was the B7 Audi, with a, with a slightly different front end.

After C1 out of production.

You see them in Spain.

You see them?

Oh, you go to Spain.

You see every say out that's ever existed.

Including stuff from like the 70s.

And they are attractive.

And I actually think you should consider importing one.

You know, it would be a real play.

Import a sad exo, but then swap in an RS4 drivetrain.

You just blow the minds of every Volkswagen group person.

Not legal yet, but soon.

The RS4 is so much better looking now.

You think so?

Go back to it.

Go back to the exo.

You don't like that.

Compared to an RS4.

The B7.

Compared to a 4 maybe.

I'm going to go on record and say the following thing.

The B7 is one of the most attractive luxury cars ever built.

That's why I've had three of them.

I plan to get a fourth.

I didn't know there even was a sedan.

I just didn't know that.

I've only ever seen this.

It was a sedan.

I can go with that.

The sedan doesn't look as good.

No, like a Mercury.

Mercury.

Go up a B7A4.

Say out was kind of the Mercury of the gang was around.

There's supposed to be like sporty and fun.

They're still doing it.

It was.

They're still around.

We're going to go to our own.

We sell B7A4.

Oh my god.

Only convertibles.

Get out of the convertible.

Look at that.

Oh yeah.

These are great.

These work great.

Let's not worry.

Okay.

Move on to our next new story.

All right.

Let's.

Oh god.

All right.

This is a new time exterior.

You're familiar.

Yeah.

We've known for a while that Nissan is planning on building a new version of the exterior.

In an interview this past week, the person in charge of the project said that they know

they need to keep it affordable and simple and rugged.

So they've said that they're targeting under $40,000.

They're not planning on doing any real luxuries or like crazy features.

It's intended to be simple.

Yeah.

Two three transfer case offer already modification ready.

They've made pretty clear that they're building and knowing that there will be lift kits

et cetera that they may produce themselves.

But it'll be like a real body on frame simple as you.

The pathfinder will also be body on frame in future generations and will probably be

a little bit larger and maybe a little bit more luxurious, which was always the case

with the exterior pathfinder car.

All right.

I'm going to just tell you right now what it's going to be.

Yeah.

The frontier starts at 32.

The Tacoma starts at 31.6.

The foreigner starts at 41.3.

It's going to start at 39.9999.

Yeah.

Because the difference between the frontier and the Tacoma is the frontier no longer has

a four cylinder, right?

The frontier is V6 only.

So the frontier is a little more expensive base, but the Tacoma is a worse.

So you get, they're going to undercut the four runner and base it on the frontier.

And that's the way that they should do it.

But it's probably the way they should have been doing it for the last 15 years.

Yeah.

But I'm glad they're finally understanding their audience.

Yeah.

Maybe.

You agree that leaving the, we've said it on the pod many times and I'm going to say it

again because I really like to underscore it, you agree that not having the exterior

in the product line for the last 15 years is the single largest product planning mistake

in the entire car industry of our lifetimes.

No, that's a really high point.

What you got then?

What you got?

Volt going non-eol-e-v.

That's a tough one.

But they didn't know.

They were asking the only EV, the most tough one I've ever offered.

You know, we got a question about that this week.

Someone wrote in a question and said, wasn't the BZ4X the right decision because now the

market has totally turned on EVs and Toyota basically put no development effort into it.

Maybe not wrong.

Honda's made some errors.

Jaguars, current lineup, all of it, or lack thereof is a pretty bad one.

Yeah, but what could they have done?

Chevy not having a raptor version of everything right out the gate.

To this sleeping on that.

To this day.

The trail boss.

The trail middle management.

I'm not trying to be enjoyed, but the raptor is what the raptor kicks butt.

By the way, one more off-road story.

Honda, I could be talking about them earlier, has XRT as a brand.

Yeah, the day on XRT is the off-road version.

They've also committed to going way deeper on XRT.

Well, I think they've said a hundred times more off-road ready than their current lineup.

Let me tell you something.

Everybody's going down.

The raptor concept car announcing their building a body on frame truck and saying they're

going to go deeper on XRT, we were just talking about how Hyundai doesn't make talk.

Hyundai does.

They do.

They go and do.

Five years from now, Hyundai will have real off-road products.

And Nissan might not be here.

Your Sunday video on Infinity, I've heard that argument from other people, including

you on this pod, but that put it all together in a way that was like, holy crap, they

are screwed.

Even if they were building good cars, the brand is so damn it.

Nissan's so damn it.

How could a luxury version of Nissan do it?

Yeah, the idea that they think that they can, they even have the space for a luxury brand

at this point is like, let's focus on the, like when Ford, remember when Ford had 18

brands?

And then they're like, you know, actually, we're kind of failing with even the main ones.

So let's get rid of those.

Yeah.

Correct.

But everybody's going off-road.

Many G-wagon.

Yeah.

How the off-road.

The off-road.

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What a transition.

I was going to give this story, but you're the poor shaggy one, and you go.

Portia is doing recommissions of their cars for rich people who have a Porsche and want

to send it back to the factory for the factory to change the color, change the wheels, change

the interior.

Like, career GT's were almost all silver.

You couldn't order that level of personalization stuff back in the day.

But now you can.

So you can take your car back to Porsche and for an absurd amount of money, they will make

it ugly.

Which pretty much hasn't got exclusively what they've done.

That is not the news story, though.

They've been doing that for a while.

What is news is now you can recommission a fairly bland 957, which isn't the official

designation.

It's a V8 manual.

I would actually argue the duty is that Porsche is in such dire financial straits that

if a fellow writes in from the Middle East with a used car, he can send it to StuCart,

and for a million dollars, they'll make it in some special spec that honestly looks

like a wrap to beat.

It does look like something we can do in a week.

It's got some interior stuff, but I've sure it's got Hound's Tooth line, love boxes.

It's a V8 manual SUV.

We love that.

We do love that.

It's a cool car.

It's a, I think it's cool at 4050.

What I send mine to Porsche, you know, the career GT recoms are a million bucks.

I assume they didn't charge this guy back, but I guarantee it wasn't 50.

Even a hundred grand.

Let's say like a 957, really, that's what you're going to dump a hundred grand until.

It's cool, and I admire the dude for wanting to do it, and I admire Porsche for offering

it for all their products, but like company hurts for money and makes bizarre looking versions

of existing.

The reason I bring this up, especially about the recommissions, is some of the career

GT recommissions have been the most tasteless things that I have ever seen in my entire life.

If you are the proud owner of one of these recommissions, you are.

You can only be the owner.

You can't be proud of what they've done.

Some of them, like, there was one in Oslo blue that I got on a spot on Instagram about

where they were like, it's collector grade, and I'm like, this is not good looking, and

like, it was repainted at a dealer in Houston.

How is that?

In my world, that's just a badly modified car.

There's a difference between the recommissions, which are going to the factory, I think.

And then what some other people are doing, now that dealers are getting into it, like it's

a whole mess.

The recommissions, I don't think looked that bad.

But some of the factory ones look like the factory is making fun of their customers.

I honestly truly think that.

And I'm not going to call out anybody, but you got Google, take the crew or GT recommissions.

Some of them look good, so truly, some of them look good.

Some of them, a lot of them are this way, like McLaren is redoing SLRs, and all the MSO

McLaren edition, like the one that's going up on Mika in January, is like orange with

black accents.

I mean, it truly looks like the most.

Pull up an SLR over the top.

I'm scared too.

Have you not seen this?

It's like an SLR that looks like a modern day McLaren, and they put like a weird or like

manicosh, but if you can find it.

No, do that one, because you can see better than that one.

That one's a fairly tasteful one.

That's the same as they get.

Some of them are really, really, really bad.

That one's pretty nice, actually.

I think Singer kind of ruined this, where Singer did it pretty tastefully, and now every

manufacturer thinks like, oh, we can recommission our cars, and they just don't have, yeah, that's

it.

Orange one.

Like, this is it off.

You know what this is?

This is the kind of car where the manufacturer proudly posts it on Instagram, and then they

have to turn off comments.

Yeah.

Totally.

Yeah.

Or they only like the four comments that agree with them, and worse fact gets tacked.

And all of them, and they're like crap, we gotta turn this off.

Kai and GTS Recommission, very interesting, we're doing this.

What SUV of this era would you recommission if you had a hundred grand, let the factory

go wild?

P-38.

And turn it into a dominator.

And the factory that I would take it to is Toyota in, in San Antonio, and I would tell

them, listen, take this car and make it run.

Add some camera.

I didn't even want to change the exterior, faded paint all over the hood, faded clear like

all the P-38s have.

Don't mess with that.

Just make it run.

They're gonna need to swap in a 3.5 liter V6.

Yeah.

The greatest engine on the market.

No.

You don't think it is?

What is?

Well, the non-hybrid 3.5 liter current Toyota truck V6 has had the non-hybrid after

recall, after recall, after recall, after recall, after recall, after recall.

Everybody's like, they're going hybrid, they're ruining every, oh, they're going to hybrid

in the Toyota trucks V8 forever.

And what motor has had the problems, Felipe?

Is it the hybrid?

No.

That's the non-hybrid.

Zero.

Next news story.

All right.

Please.

One more.

The F1 race was in Las Vegas, and as part of that, they also do a lot of auctions and

stuff for rich people and car enthusiasts alike.

So the new, not McLaren, the Gordon Murray design S1LM, I believe is the official moniker,

went for just under $21 million, which is getting to about the price point of an actual

F1.

Although those are, they transact so infrequently, but like it's, it's the most expensive

new car.

At auction ever, right?

Ever.

I think ever a period.

Yeah.

It's pretty wild.

We saw it at the, the quail.

It's absolutely beautiful, and it definitely gives you the F1 vibes.

It's like, you copied the homework, but changed a few things so that it wasn't

obvious.

You were cheating, but like, it's, it's very cool, but 21 million is wild.

Dude.

It's second year at Northwestern, he's, he's, he was, he was, he was busy doing other

pursuits.

Okay.

I was.

And he had to pay a kid.

Yep.

Anyway, the point is, 20 million dollars, unbelievable, crazy number.

Yeah.

I will say one thing that has been interesting to me, more interesting, honestly,

than the sale price, was that when these car, do you remember when this car was announced,

they said that five were commissioned, and what did they say about the five?

They were all sold.

They were all sold to the same guy.

The story I have heard from some sources is that, that guy has only retained one of

the cars.

In the end, his plan was to retain five, but he has actually sold off the other four,

probably because the reception was so significant that he realized he could probably, it's

like the developer who buys a bunch of lots, sells them all off, makes houses and then keeps

one house for free.

I bet she he did that.

Yep.

You could have if that's what his goal was, like, I bet she, he could have probably got

10 to 20 million for all of them and ended up with a free S one, which would you turn

down a free S one?

No.

You don't go broke making a profit.

That's right.

That should be one of our news stories.

Man he sold his, his mega church.

He did.

We're like double what he paid for it.

Folks, this is real hard hitting news.

I will say that hasn't been the talk of our friend.

One more news stories.

We're going to move on speaking of selling assets or getting them to a lot of speaking

of speaking of speaking of baller buster appearances.

Okay.

CLK GTR, which is this car here, there's a fellow who's Canadian, who was an Olympic snowboarder

in the 2002 winner games.

Remember, they were where they were held.

It's all exciting.

So I like Mitt Romney was there.

You're a man.

And, uh, uh, uh, drink and milk will probably get a hot dogs in favor of food.

Um, so Mitt Romney, interesting.

Do you remember, by the way, speaking of cars in Mitt Romney, do you remember when

the dog when they asked Mitt Romney on the campaign trail, what do you drove?

He was always dog.

He was always dog by these allegations that he was like too rich to like be a man.

And so they asked him, what do you drove?

And his response was, well, my wife, she's got a couple of Cadillacs.

He's got Cadillacs everywhere.

Anywho, guy was a snowboarder.

Now he's killing people.

That's the long and short of it.

Yeah.

That's got to be a great docuseries one day.

Yeah.

And he, uh, he killed some people in Canada and it's, he's, he's, he's, he started a

Mexican car, he's part of the Mexican cartel.

And my understanding of the Mexican cartel is you can kill people as long as it's kind

of, you know, related to drugs.

But the moment you start killing people who are like randoms, the police are like, they

aren't really random.

The people he killed work randoms, he, he broke into an air, his, his, his, his people

broken into an Airbnb in Toronto and killed two elderly Indian people because they had

the wrong house.

He also did, uh, have somebody killed who was going to be testifying you as a point in.

But he, uh, he's wanted for all these things.

This car was seized because it was ill gotten, uh, gains or something like that.

By the, by the person that was in charge of cleaning the money, 13 million is what the,

the feds are valuing the car at, which I assume is probably what the, the dude paid

for, for it.

But I mean, what an amazing car, right?

You think of money launders like they're, for what?

And this isn't exactly discreet, like it's not the best way to hide money.

It's just, it's okay.

It is, it is a good place.

It is a good place to wash money though.

If you're trying to launder a lot of money, like, yeah, there's not a lot of cars, yeah,

one car.

You don't have to do 20 cars.

There's, maybe you could have bought the S one.

Yeah.

Um, the interesting thing that I was thinking about this, so the feds seized this car as part

of this whole thing, um, how do you think they drove it?

Right.

They watched my video.

They, how else would they know how to turn the car on?

I mean, how any of it worked.

The nice transporter that did the mercy, they just put a toe hook in and winch it on.

They don't even like have to start the car.

But if you, that's a good point.

No, it's a good point.

But if you move the car anywhere, you have to figure out the, it is a, it is a manual transmission

without a gear lever.

Yeah.

Do you know how to put it?

Yeah.

I would have to watch it on the floor.

Yeah.

If you're the person that moved it out of a dealership show room in Florida, uh, and

watch a Doug's video on it to learn, uh, send us a message we want to know.

Okay.

You ever seen a bunch of copart videos where, if the cars don't run, they just use a

four-click.

And they just, oh, it's like the most painful thing to watch.

But the cars aren't either off.

It's like when a car rolls down a hillside on like a canyon, the toe truck driver straps

the thing to whatever hard point you can find and just drags it on up.

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh, I want to talk about the talk car second.

Yeah.

It's important.

The talk car is being brought to us by the bear license plate.

Uh, very nice gentleman in Canada who owned a small dealership had that plate traded

in on a car.

Do you know what that says?

Which is very kind of him.

I'm, I guess I'm going to find out the Northwest Territories, the fawn, the Northwest

Territories, which is a part of Canada.

It's, it's, it's the Northwest Territories, very extreme northern Canada.

Strangely, it's not in the Northwest.

It's actually the Northwest Central.

Yep.

Uh, to be fair, uh, I'm going to ask.

But it's on Eastern time.

None of that makes sense.

They're license plate.

In the 1970s, they had a contest for a new license plate and a child designed a license

plate shaped like a bear.

And of course, a child designs it so you dismiss it as unrealistic.

But they didn't.

And since 1973 or something, all Northwest Territories lights have been shaped like a

bear.

They don't have to make that many of them.

And so they're kind of cool and, uh, and, and, and this one's here.

This is an actual north.

Now my, one of my main goals in life is to see one on the road and, and, um, let's do

our, let's digress here.

Yeah.

So every day when I film, I film my videos in the parking lot of San Diego Zoo, which

is one of the biggest tourist attractions in all of California.

And, um, after I film my video, I then drive down two or three rows of zoo parking lot

trying, hoping that someday I will see on a car one of these and you see cars that the

zoo parking lot for, I mean, I've seen Europe like frequently.

But never a bear, even though I dream of it dearly.

You know that I have, but Filippo, go ahead and, on a Nissan Titan XD is driving through

Vermont and my Kia Spectra as we're, and they, they were towing an air stream and must've

gone across country, across Canada, maybe now to the US, cross country, saw a new

title scene.

I've seen one.

I'll tell you something that when I went tonight, I found the photos, great.

Time out went to Niagara Falls.

I went crazy.

All I, as a people looking at the falls, I was like freaking out in the parking lot.

It's like ever because you're going to see one.

You know, like that Canada's like main event, like that's where it's going to be.

But I didn't.

If in 2014, 2015, you were driving through Vermont and your territory played in Nissan

Titan XD.

Send us a note.

Yeah.

Okay.

I really do.

Anyway, it's, the bear is sponsored.

The bear doesn't have a name, but the bear is sponsoring this segment.

And people are going to write it and say that Nunavut also has a bear shaped license plate

and that is not true.

And the talk car segment, I want to start with, I want to start with the LX700H over

trail.

Flip it.

Yeah.

We should give us a little background here.

All right.

A six months ago, a year ago, I don't know.

Doug had an LX700H press car.

Yeah.

And he realized that he made, may have made a mistake in purchasing a Sequoia.

Yeah.

Because the LX700H is a better vehicle in every way, except that doesn't have camo, which

is a detractor.

Yes.

We'll agree.

Recently, I came back from Japan.

This is a big part of it.

I gifted Doug a little die cast, LX600H.

So, Flipo goes to Japan and he comes back with a little gift for all of our friends.

Yeah.

And every way he gives Nick like a C8 Corvette, it's like the hot wheels.

I don't know.

He got one for all of us.

That's something cool.

He got one for all of us.

And he gives me this jackass.

He gives me an LX new Lexus LX and it just sent me down.

I had to regret it.

I regret it.

It's like a nightmare that you keep having recurring, recurring and then it's

finally goes away and then someone brings it up again.

Honestly, it was like alcohol.

It's like you're an alcoholic.

You go out of the wagon.

Yeah.

And then he's like, oh, here.

Here.

I thought it'd be a little callback joke.

I didn't expect that it would spiral.

So now I've spiraled.

Yeah.

I wanted again.

I want an LX and there's been two interesting developments.

One is, I discovered, the worst thing about the LX is the front end styling is so ugly

that it's actually difficult to talk about it, I think, in public.

So the click on that picture, no, no, you've got to do it over trail because it's actually

worse.

I had a thought on this for you this morning, actually, which is I saw a black, it's

a GX, not an LX, but on black, it looks less offensive.

I can't buy a black car.

I don't want to keep black.

You're going to have to if you want this face.

Uh-huh.

So I discovered, because this has actually been something keeping me from doing it, I discovered

that there is an outfit up in Northern California near Sacramento called Descent Off Road, who

creates an entire bumper.

Go to a better high res, I'm sure we'll be able to pull one up and have it on the

thing.

But you should see, it takes away almost the entire front end, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

It takes away like the entire front end that's ugly.

You literally only end up with half the grill.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like the BMW M3 bumper.

Compared to this trash.

And so I'm, yeah, so I'm sitting there thinking, okay, that solved one of our problems.

However, the second development, as I drove the Sequoia this week with my family and

my kids, everything involved, to Joshua Troy.

How was it?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There was a pickleball court at my Airbnb, we could have, we could have, we could have

paddled.

Uh-huh.

So that's it.

You know what?

We could have pickled.

I like that Sequoia.

It's a good truck.

Oh.

I think you're, you're obviously insane.

Uh-huh.

The outfit 100 doesn't give you that much, it's slightly better ride, maybe it's like an

extra interior, maybe he did rear seats.

It gains a lot of stuff, actually.

But it's one shorter, it's a little bit smaller, I think it's more than extra space.

It's crucial for me.

That's one of the biggest reasons I wanted.

Sequoia is not that big.

It's too big.

It's 16 inches shorter than a suburb.

It's big enough that no one in my family, including me will drive it.

And we're all like, nope, like I'll, I'll be away.

My wife or family will come, there's seven of us, seven of us, my wife, we're taking

them Mercedes.

We're going to cram into the third row because we hate driving the Sequoia that much.

But here, that's, that's, first, this one's on portal axles, for 120, not never minding

the mods.

Have you thought you can get a 957 for like 20, it's been 100 grand commissioning it.

And how do you get the same?

Maybe you need a third row, that's a good idea.

Anyway, I still want the Alex 700H, and the thing I like the most about it, no joke is

the powertrain.

All these people are freaking out about the 57 V8, which is not a particularly reliable

engine, or an efficient one, or a, or a good one.

The twin turbo V6 in the new hybrid twin turbo V6 in the Sequoia TRT Pro and the Alex 700H,

I truly believe is one of the great engines on sale in any vehicle on the front.

Have the use values dropped at all, or you still got to buy them basically now?

For the overtrails?

They're doing, no, they're, they're dropping, and there's not a lot of interest in them.

But Sequoia TRT Pro sales are strong.

I, I think part of this was, I saw a couple other Sequoias when I was out there, they're

TRT Pro Sequoias, and I was like, I was like looking at some of the mods, some of the

vanity plates, I'm like, I gotta get out of this car, no.

What if you just sold this Sequoia and didn't replace it until next summer for Nantucket,

and just chilled and waited for those values to drop, but get out of this Sequoia.

I was thinking of, in the fall, sell this Sequoia and wait until the spring to get, the

fall is in like last month's, next fall, so, so in fall of 26.

Wow.

And then for like seven months, not have a car.

Wow.

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Sure.

So what happened?

You got it back from the driving.

Okay, so yeah, I got it immediately.

It was like, okay, let me just make sure it's safe because it rode pretty sketchy.

And the, can you define what that means?

Like it just like bounced all over the road suspension or cap.

Like yes, suspension related, like something wasn't quite right.

There was a few other things that I was just like, I want to get it checked out before

I put my family in it.

Sure.

And the initial estimate came back $7,000.

Right.

Which is what the guy paid for it on cars and beds two years ago.

So basically, it was free, but it needed seven grand worth.

Right.

It's worth seven grand.

It was mechanically told.

To be fair, that's true of every P38.

It is.

And honestly, seven grand is light.

Whatever mechanic you took it to give you a sweet heart.

I don't think so.

It wasn't anything major.

It was death of 1,000 paper cuts.

It's like, okay, it needs breaks.

It needs.

What do you have to ask it?

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

I did.

I did it.

Five grand worth of work on it.

Oh my.

That's better.

4800.

It's going to lose it.

You are out of your mind.

You're insane.

What did you do?

Did you say yes to the brakes or no to the brakes?

I'm doing the brakes myself because I found the brakes for a hundred bucks and we'll

a couple of times.

What do you do to spend hours?

The valve casket was the main thing.

I'll do it in my garage.

Well, yeah, because the driveway is at an angle.

That'd be problematic.

Okay.

Hard to swap out.

We're rotors and calipers.

Who the park is SLR on?

He's going to park his SLR on the cul-de-sac and the street so that he can do a

break job on a free crap car.

Well, it's a $5,000.

I drove it all the way down to Mexico today.

Well, that's not all the way.

Nick, it's 50.

It's 20 minutes.

Well, from the international road trip to my feet, from Norway.

The county that was a 40 mile drive.

Not a single warning light.

You're not home yet.

No, but you haven't done 50 miles.

No, check it.

Which is what they all treat.

That's light.

No.

Have you done 50 miles?

Because that's what it will turn on.

Nick.

You have done 70.

Oh, wow.

OK, you did the valve cover, gaskets, systems, or no.

Yeah, yeah, they had to rebuild the whole front suspension.

That was the main thing that caused the ride.

Does the climate control work?

No.

It also doesn't have a glove box.

There's some other issues.

Does it, like, otherwise run OK?

Runs great.

And my son loves it.

He calls it the monster truck.

I plan to lift it and we're going to have a lot of it.

It'll be like the Hyundai crater concept.

We're going to rebuild the suspension.

OK.

I can't believe you dropped five is you

learn nothing from the Arnage.

What's your nausea?

By the way, it's at 18.

I paid 18.5 for it and then dumped another 17 grand into it.

So I'm hoping there's a few more bitters out there.

The Arnage, it's interesting.

Look at those pictures.

Michael, they're so good.

By the way, these pictures, even take it look better

and it is don't buy this car.

Walking by it earlier, before we film this, it is so beautiful.

It's a gorgeous car.

I've been coming in.

I can't really see the office today.

No one is here.

I can't remember what for.

I dropped off the gym.

Look at that thing.

And I pull in and I'm like, damn.

It's so cool.

Is it really real smaller than the front?

Are they so cool?

No, they're 18.

It's a tire-like setup.

It's cool.

This car will be horrible for whoever, but...

No, I mean, for all that Arnage is in the world,

this is probably in the top 10%.

18 is already a radical overpayment.

Top 10%.

Not based on the comments.

No chance.

I think they're all tough.

It's certainly in the upper half.

Well, that's because the lower half is literally junk.

Parts first.

Well, I bought it in the lower half.

I think I took it from like a two or three to like a six or seven.

The lower half is junk cars and green labels.

And even the nicest green label in the world is in the lower half.

Yeah.

And then all the other ones are in the upper half.

It's such a good little car.

Look at that thing.

It looks so good.

I weigh over and best.

I mean, of that 17 grand or so, I spent on it.

A lot was cut.

Half of that was cosmetic.

Yeah.

You did all the wood.

Yeah.

After Arnage ownership, five grand to fix a car.

Right.

It freaks.

You know, I got to screw up your whole system.

I'm looking at these pictures.

And I'm like, Tim, are we sure we want to get rid of this for $18,000?

Finally right.

It's finally right.

No.

Find me more presents for 18 grand.

I mean, Doug, you say it's finally right.

Let's just look through some of the known flaws here.

Scratches.

I mean, come on.

Airbag light, ABS light.

What, the front passenger window motor, you're never able to fix that?

It, the motor has like a short in it.

And so they're like, you've got to find a whole new motor.

We can't rebuild it.

So I took it out.

I shipped it in to get rebuilt.

They shipped it back.

And then they were like, Mr. Roshan, you've sent us so many window regulators to repair

this one's on the house.

We will charge you, including the shipping they paid back on their own diamonds.

They just felt sorry for being at that point.

I'd done three window regulators on it.

That was the fourth.

And I didn't do with them all at the same time.

Each one was individually taken out to ship to them at different points.

So for the last year, because they all broke into business.

Yes.

So why didn't you fix this one?

Well, so I needed to find a new motor or a new window regulator motor.

They weren't on eBay.

And I just gave up at some point.

You got to say, it still works.

You just got to tap the button a bunch of times instead of holding it down.

It's like, okay, that's not.

Look at all these pictures or goo coming out of a check engine life.

No one ever tried harder to sell a car for less money.

Like, how are you responding to comments about this?

I mean, we've been pretty clear about this as honest as I can.

Someone asked, do I think it'll make it to Jersey?

And I'm like, no guarantees.

No, you're Nick.

The answer to that is no.

Of course it won't make it.

It could.

Nick, the car broke down.

But four times you never took it out of out of North County.

No, it wasn't.

Well, it's raining for three, four hundred miles since the last time.

You know, it's been L.A.

Sean took at the L.A.

around Beverly Hills and up to Angela's crest to the breakfast.

This is the Honda.

Right now.

It seemed like he'd be a good home because he likes a lot of also maintenance.

British.

And he's the guy who bought my N.A.S.90.

And it was wonderful.

And with my PDR.

And he bought this offer on my LG TV.

I gotta tell you, this guy's bid history is what I wish my bid history could be.

But I'm not, I'm not ready for this.

I gotta go bid on some more cars together.

Don't see him there.

He was really wonderful, super nice guy, easy to deal with.

You know, because the best thing about selling a car, the best way a person can be

is they never talked to you again.

And he has actually reached out a bunch of times, but just to like send me pictures and

never complain, which has been lovely.

We were pretty up front about that car.

There's certain types of enthusiasts that like a little pain.

So after the P38, someone added me to an Instagram group called Rover Roulette.

And this is the most unhinged group of human beings you've ever been around.

I love it so much.

But like, suddenly I went from feeling like crazy neck to like the most normal person

in the group.

You know, and I'm like, yes.

I remember one time I was in an L322 owners group on Facebook years ago, because I had

obviously an L322 for years.

And I remember one time a guy came in and he had been added to the group.

He knew nothing about the cars.

He had bought an L3205, which is the really rough one.

And was having starting to have the typical issues coolant with those cars have.

And I'll never forget a guy who is really well known in the group replied and said, being

stupid cost money.

And it was like, damn.

Wow.

That's so true.

And it's especially true in the Rover world.

If you know what you're getting into, that's one thing.

Yeah.

If not being stupid cost money.

Filippo, last week on the pod, you told us that you were interested in buying a car.

This week on the pod.

And by the way, this isn't one of those situations where you bought the car and you're

going to.

No, please talk about it for weeks.

You haven't bought a car yet.

What's going on?

I am looking.

I have been in deep negotiations with somebody selling a 991 based cabriolet.

You know, when I said that I was looking for my 993, it was unbelievable.

I know many people reached out.

They came out of the woodwork.

Why don't you tell everybody what you're looking for?

I am looking for a 991.1, so 2012 to 2015.

Base.

C2.

So it took a career or two.

Cabriolet or a coupe.

Cabriolet.

We live in Southern California.

So Cabriolet is great.

For that, I actually think the coupe looks better than a 991.

The whole thing about that car that was that the Cabriolet Roof had the same.

It doesn't.

We can all agree that the coupe looks better.

No, this was the whole thing about the car.

When I worked at Porsche, this was all they could say about it coming out.

Oh, you know the convertible.

The Cabriolet looks great.

But the coupe looks even better.

I know that's true.

It's very acceptable.

We couldn't have that picture through.

It was supposed to have the same.

And I think that that generally does.

But the coupe is just such an attractive car.

So I would consider either for that reason.

Manual needs to be manual.

Turbo.

No PDK.

Turbo S.

C2.

$65,000 budget.

Turbo S.

Okay.

Tell us what the number is.

You want to stay in the 60s.

Which I think is like a realistic number.

When Felipe says 60s, what he means is 58 to 61.

Right.

Am I wrong?

I mean, 58 to 65.

Okay.

No fees.

No.

You're going to Montana, right?

Of course not.

I register my cars and stay in the city.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But just do private party sale.

That would be ideal.

You're going to register in Tennessee.

Um, okay.

So I'm legitimately looking.

I'm negotiating with the person.

I mean, you will buy that one or not.

But early 991.

Who do we send it to?

Oh, Sean S.E.A.N.

at carsandbids.com.

Or Instagram.

Manual.

Manual early.

991.

C2.

Do not send it to me.

I got so many 993 turbos over the last two months.

I went no more.

I'm not showing to get anything.

DM me.

Email YouTube at carsandbids.com.

The day that I was finally like shooting the video for the car.

Nick sends a message to our group then.

He's like, damn it.

He's like, uh, Graham Ray Hall just listed in a reader red 993 turbo

and 20 people of art.

That's right.

Um, please help me find a car.

Thanks.

Okay.

But if someone does reach out with a nice manual 991.1 C2

at a 16 number,

I've been actively pursuing legitimately.

I've had a incredibly long text chain

with somebody selling one right now.

Will you peek me on this?

You wasting some of the time.

I'm not wasting anybody's time.

Yeah.

All right.

Will you peek me on this?

On what?

What's the problem?

That if someone reaches out with a good,

so I'll exempt you from bad car facts and that kind of stuff.

You don't have to.

Any colors, like no black or yellow.

I have no specific rules.

There are some specs that I have not.

My legs and so like that like cuts down price.

I think a lot about that silver blue cap.

I know.

It's back for sale.

It's for sale.

The one we had.

Yeah.

But it has some mods and some other issues.

So that one.

Click on that.

I'll back for sale.

That.

Yeah.

I'll protect my dog.

Felipe.

Look at that.

That is so cool.

That is really cool.

We can find something more like that.

I should have bought this.

Five months ago.

What a cut of shit.

You should have said.

I don't have a spiss.

I would prefer premium plus premium or premium plus

packages.

I would prefer.

Yeah.

I don't get it anyway.

I don't have a mileage cut off at all.

My plan is to drive this car a lot.

Be careful.

Because the 993 turbos.

I got ones with like 200,000 miles.

So.

You've got to have some upper limit.

100,000.

We have a 991 live right now with 116,000.

Oh.

I don't know.

It's a PDK.

It is in San Diego.

It is 169,000 miles.

Wow.

You know, I'll never forget.

I'll never forget.

It's a great daily driver.

Hey, Sean.

Producer, Sean, you want to buy this?

I'll never forget.

The day that I met Magnus Walker.

Sure.

I was at an airport runway.

And that he was there too.

And it was one of those like race the cars in the runway.

I think I'm not a Magnus Walker.

I'm not a Porsche guy.

I'm not going to say to this guy.

But we end up having the best.

We hit it off when we were like 10 for hours.

Love Magnus Walker.

I truly loved him.

I thought he was great.

You know what his daily was?

Might still be.

He had found a 991 turbo that someone had driven.

Oh, yeah.

And this is five years ago.

Yeah.

That someone had driven like 250,000 miles.

That's right.

And he bought it for like not much.

Yeah.

It was like the high, you know, there were no cops.

Yeah.

And that was his daily.

And he was like, I'm just trying to see what happens.

Yeah.

All right.

It's in Carl's bad.

If I were open to an UDK, you shouldn't know.

No, I shouldn't.

I shouldn't.

UDK is a fantastic transmission.

But if you want a stick, you should get a stick.

I do.

But this will be a deal because do higher mile 991,

early 991s with a with a PDK are worth notably less

in the manuals.

There's a real price difference.

And this is probably in the 40s.

This is high miles you're going to get.

Yeah.

That silver blue you need to buy.

I'll kick in Nick and I'll kick in some cash.

Oh, how much?

I'll sell this on eBay and whatever it pulls in.

I will.

We cannot.

We don't sell gifts.

I'm still in eBay.

He's going to make me sell it on eBay.

Correct.

It was on eBay.

But please do DM me cars that are.

991.1 stick.

That's that's it.

60K around.

Well, you don't want a super low mile car.

No, no.

In the low 60s or below.

We want a reasonable car.

Yep.

You'll take non-colored crests in the center caps.

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I want to quickly do market report because we have to move on to questions which are fine this week.

Does this fine?

Is this fine?

Can I start with my market report about the GLA45?

Oh, loves the GLA45.

GLA45 I think is one of the most underrated cars in existence.

Now is this an SUV or a hatchback based on your GV60?

I'm going to make the point that it's a hatchback.

You know, people are not here.

People are here talking about hot hatches and Mercedes marketed this as an SUV.

But I've always been a big fan of don't look at marketing.

Look at dimensions.

And you know this has 380 horsepower?

It's four wheel drive.

It's dual clutch.

Like this is a Golf R except a nicer interior.

It's more Fernetic to drive.

It is an insane automobile.

And this one just sold under $20,000.

And this has a bunch of wise tag engineering parts.

A lot of these GLA45 seem to get modded up.

Yeah.

Meaning people are buying them as a hot hatch, not as a get the kids deserve it.

I'm making this point today, but there are people who have already realized this.

You're right.

Like, and honestly, I even like not a bag of aftermarket will get I like nowhere.

This car looks nice.

Yeah.

In 18.

384 horsepower.

There are in other markets that are within a class hatch.

That was just as but lower.

And we got remember we got the CLA45, which was essentially that but isn't sitting there.

But if you if you get past the, oh, it's an SUV.

It's not.

And just look at what it is.

It's a hot hatch with 380 horsepower.

355 sock, but never the last close.

Wasn't it 375?

355.

Go back.

I think there was a facelift in.

Okay.

17.

Up.

Yeah.

It got up to 375.

Yeah.

That's real.

You know, that's how much the F-355 had.

Kenan's F-355.

Yeah.

In a little.

Right.

350 pound feet of torque.

Wow.

That's a serious.

Have you driven one?

No, but I'd love to.

Halls.

And honestly, if you drive it hard, it feels like you're a Barth.

It's like a frenetic, like crazy, tight steering, like loud, killing a kind of car.

It's like a golf bar, but cheaper and cooler.

Also, these AMG 4-cylinder sound kind of cool.

Did you sound kind of cool?

The GLB 35 AMG, like the current 35 AMG sound good.

We all would prefer a V8, but in this segment, a 4-cylinder is what you're going to get at every car.

Even the real power.

Focus RS, the GR crawl, that's a 3-cylinder.

But you get the point.

I like these things.

At that price point, that's pretty cool.

Under 20.

Yeah.

Of course, I'm more of a QX30 fan myself.

If they had done a hot QX30, that would have been so cool.

This is a GLA.

It's just infinity.

Did you know this?

Infinity made a rebadged of Mercedes GLA for like two models.

It looked better in some ways.

The interior is wild.

Why, anyways.

Because it's an infinity center cap on the steering wheel, and everything else is Mercedes-Benz.

Yep.

Makes no sense.

That's a good marker word.

Everybody should go on and buy one.

Go buy a GLA 45, but only on cars and bids, or somewhere else, I don't really care.

But sell it on.

All right.

What's your marker report?

I don't know.

I've left my laptop there.

The BMW wagon.

Oh, yes.

Pull up that BMW wagon.

This isn't really a market topic, but it's so cool.

No, it's unbelievable.

There is a Maserati Gran Turismo and or Quattroporte 4.7 liter V8 in this.

So if they did the full M3 look on the outside, you would have thought they'd just put in an M3 motor.

But no.

Which they probably should have just done.

Full on crazy for the 4.7.

What's beautiful about this car?

The Ferrari badges is maybe questionable.

Ferrari derived.

It is the Ferrari derived motor.

It sounds really good.

That was my favorite thing of the 4.7 and the Quattroporte was the sound.

And then the flat plane crank versus the cross plane.

It sounded slightly better in the Maserati version.

This car is going to sound cool.

It looked cool.

I can't imagine how they got all this to work together.

Especially because it's a manual swap.

That's the other crazy thing about how?

Which didn't come in that Maserati.

Right.

But the manual came from something weird.

What was it?

There was an explanation of where it came from.

The Nissan CD.

Wow.

It's a Nissan 6-speed manual.

The whole thing is crazy.

This car is in Massachusetts.

And I've learned from my own friends in Massachusetts.

This is what happens when you have winter.

November comes.

And you're like, well, I can't drive anymore.

So I got this BMW wagon.

Why don't I swap a Maserati 4.7 and a Nissan 6-speed into it?

And by spring, you have this car.

But then you can no longer pass state inspections.

So now it's on cars and bits.

It's just it's set up on cars built in the best way possible.

Crazy wild.

Crazy.

I have literally no idea what it's going to sell for.

I don't either, but could anybody know?

Like it's definitely one of those cars we were like at the right price.

I'm a better, you know.

Why have you not bailed?

I'm sure the cost to do this was astronomical.

Like I don't, maybe they get it back.

I would be surprised if it didn't cost that much.

I bet you these these motors are pretty easy to find.

Motor from a findable, but just from a time perspective.

Labor.

I mean, obviously did it himself, but the time, the time devoted to it must have been absolutely unbelievable.

Yeah.

I mean, just just crazy.

Also get it to be done.

Based on their bio, they are knowledgeable about this, right?

They do most force CAD designing.

They look at it and it was true since, but desperate to get out.

Like everybody.

Andy, if you're listening, then you want to put a Maserati and a P38.

Let me know.

D.M.

Filippo.

Andy, you want to get out of Massachusetts?

Come to Carl's bed or whatever the hell Nick lives and put a Maserati motor in his P38.

How cool would that be?

It'd be pretty cool.

I'd rather do like an L.S., or something a little more reliable.

I would just put five grand into the existing vehicle, though.

I will accept any V8.

When you showed up at the car at the shop, did the shop say you cannot abandon this car at the shop?

They had other.

I was worried.

I had been at that same shop a week before.

And I picked up my wife in the SLR when she got up for payah.

So they knew her legit.

They knew I was legit, and I think they might have rounded up a little here and there for it, but it's fine.

Okay.

They did a good job.

Okay, we need to move on to questions.

The questions are brought to you by the Northwest Territories bear license plate.

It's so beary that it has a, it's shaped like a bear, and there is a bear in the toe.

Whoa.

Sean won't show me, but that's true.

There's a bear on a bear.

You ever see a bear on a bear?

Northwest Territories sounds like kind of a BS name for a state.

They found it in.

Not a state, but I agree with you.

What do they call it in Canada?

Well, a territory, actually.

They're generally called provinces, but they also have territories.

Yeah, province.

That's what I was looking at.

Okay, but it's not, you know what I'm going to move on.

It's not worth it.

Okay, if you want to ask us a question, this week's questions were not amazing.

So there were some good ones, but mostly they were not as good as I wish they were.

So I'm going to tell you again how to ask.

Go to carsandbids.com, click on the community tab, scroll down.

There'll be a post that says, ask us questions and then ask your question.

I do not only choose the highest upload of questions.

I generally choose the most controversial.

The sink your teeth in and scare us questions.

And so that's what I'm looking for.

Give us your good, if you have questions, give us good, feed us, feed us.

We don't know what to talk about.

We don't.

We run out of ideas so quickly.

By the way, one thing I do want to say before we get into questions,

speaking of the audience, you know, the 993 Turbo thing all started with that car model.

It did.

So that was 100 is happening.

Over the summer or just at the end of the summer, some random viewer sent us,

yeah, I took it home because now it's on my desk with my other cars.

But some random viewer sent us a 993 Turbo car model.

And I still don't have any idea who it was.

And that kind of kicked it off.

That did.

And now we have a real full size one.

It's pretty, pretty wild.

Literally is what happened.

I still don't know who it was.

The pod is also willed a few cars into our existence.

The SLR I asked for the P38.

So maybe Filippo.

Maybe about the 991.1.

Yeah.

Finally will it into Filippo?

Fingers crossed.

Are your Turbo Swiss hollows book?

My Turbo Swiss or hollows book.

They call them the technology wheels.

I'm not a Porsche guy though.

Are you the original wheels?

Are they open a barn somewhere?

That's such a deep cut.

I'm not even going to explain that one.

Okay.

First question from Quasibrad.

This is what we were talking about four years ago.

It's appropriate to say Toyota was right to come up with the BZ4X.

Obviously not a competitive car.

But the market has switched away from EVs.

And here Toyota is having not developed a lot of money in EVs.

Yeah.

You can still, you know, you should have some pride.

And having some pride as a company or a manufacturer means that you build good products.

And the BZ4X now is okay.

They've now put it still not.

It's a little better.

No.

But it was not a competitive product.

It was not a good showing.

It was not a good reflection of what Toyota can do.

And they should still be embarrassed by it.

Now, not investing a ton in it.

Smart decision.

But that's strategic.

It's like Quasibrad.

It's not paying my taxes.

That makes me smart.

That's what Toyota did.

Just then don't build it or build something.

They had to.

It was a compliance card.

You can't sell in California.

That's true.

And I mean, the Honda Prologue was another card that ripped off.

I know.

I see them around.

And I think there's a lot of people that dislike Honda.

Because they were $199 a month.

Right.

Well, they were cheap.

But also people like, I like Honda's.

I want an EV.

This checks the two boxes I care about.

The BZ4X was just so mediocre.

They didn't have to build one.

But like, they could have done better without investing that much more.

They had to do a lot of work to get to that point.

I completely agree with Quasibrad's ethos.

I think Toyota was brilliant.

They had.

They could have built a good car.

And they said, no, we don't think this is the right time for an EV.

They built a bad car cheaply.

And in the end, they made...

And that's why Toyota, number one, profitability.

Hyundai, number two.

Was it...

Was this brilliant or was this accidentally the right choice?

Toyota has for years been announcing that they don't want to...

Yeah, that's true.

So I think there was some action.

There's some more to it.

Toyota and the Trump administration have more in common than you might think at first blush.

I think that it wasn't the reddit.

The head of Toyota wearing a make America great hat at a NASCAR event, I want to say.

He sure.

Is that true?

Yeah.

And like it not like Halloween level.

Oh my goodness.

It was a wild.

Oh my goodness.

It was a wild.

The guy himself.

This guy said, why can't we make the whole car camo?

When I think of the person who like is celebrating the camo fenders on my car.

That is what I think.

Well, you might be right.

It is not a surprise.

Not Union labor stick and camo fenders on that NASCAR race.

That's amazing.

Okay.

Next question.

This is a good question.

I'll let Filippo take this.

Oh, this.

From Quasi Brad.

Oh, who is Blake?

Sure.

The co-founder of Cars and Bids.

He co-founder.

Completely understand if he wants to stay out of the spotlight.

But can you share anything about how you know him or his background?

Blake is a shadowy figure.

He recently had a CLK GTR seized from him.

Filippo, tell us about Blake.

Here is his profile.

Blake co-founder of Cars and Bids with Doug.

He just sold the GT4RS.

Cool guy.

It's not like he'd want the people to know.

Here is the thing about Blake.

Blake was my co-founder.

He changed my life.

I've worked with a lot of people.

As you might imagine, I'm not the easiest person to work with.

I've worked with a lot of people over the years.

And Blake is probably the only person who I ever would ever start another business with.

And he's just incredibly knowledgeable and incredibly easy to work with

and really, really a good operator.

And he had the opportunity to exit when we took our investment three years ago.

And so he's not around anymore.

He doesn't have a role.

He's moved on to other stuff where he's probably starting other businesses that are going to do great.

But he had obviously a massive role.

Without him, we couldn't have put this business together.

Yep.

So he's never really been in public.

The initial plan was that he would kind of come with me to events and do stuff like that.

But the investment happened pretty quick.

And he never, you know, it didn't really happen.

He's still kind of into cars.

He kind of waxes and wanes with his car enthusiasm.

But I think his first car was like a 300 ZX.

He was always in the cars.

He had it off for 30.

He had that came in GT4RS.

But his kids are like, he has a Bronco Raptor.

He goes on off road trips.

He's got a green Panama sports charisma.

But his kids are kind of aging into that era where like there's a lot of parental, like teen era,

where there's a lot of activities and stuff.

And so he's kind of, he's not around us.

But we see him at cars and coffee.

I don't know.

He's a close personal friend and a cool person who's very much on the spotlight.

Although he probably does there's more of it.

He checks me every so often and gives me ideas.

And there's no chance he's listened to the podcast.

I feel never know about that.

That's it.

On our side, he's shocked if he even knows we have a pot.

Okay.

Number one automotive podcast.

Next question from Bruce L.

This is a grammar question.

And I love a good grammar question and I'm going to take this one.

I'm going to take it far.

If you had a Nissan Leaf and bought two when you have Leafs or Leafs,

folks, this is one of my pet peeves.

Yeah.

Same.

It's a proper now.

Okay.

So it doesn't pluralize into Leafs.

It pluralizes into Leafs.

And same with Prius.

It was like Prius.

Prius.

Prius is.

Next question.

Didn't tell you to put out a poll years ago.

I don't care what Toyota.

Oh my gosh.

They didn't press really.

They didn't press release about this.

I don't care what Toyota.

They said that it's called that a multiple Prius is a Prius.

20% of Reddit thinks that it's could space of instead of could apostrophe V.

Hey.

I don't do that.

No, he went to Northwestern.

I don't care what people think it is.

I'm telling you what it is.

Apparently dishenair.com updated Prius to reflect this in 2011.

Oh, that's Prius.

No, I agree with you.

You don't.

It only got 25% of the votes.

I know, right?

Yeah.

But there was a press release about this.

Okay.

Someone who works in marketing.

I can't tell you how much of marketing is just utter BS.

Like, how many people had to sign off on that press release?

And we're like, we got this great campaign activation.

We're going to make people vote and we're going to hit Gen Z.

And we're going to have to journal this.

I'm sure auto that made a blog.

It was a whole thing.

They were all.

And it was just people creating stuff to do.

Yeah.

I'm not going to lie.

I'm proud of myself for 14 years later.

Remember that?

Yeah, that's nonetheless something.

The answer is Prius.

The answer is Leafs.

The answer is it's all if it's a proper noun.

When you pluralize it, you just add an S.

And by the way, you don't add an apostrophe.

No.

You know, one of the things that I think is the craziest.

Almost nobody on the internet thinks the plural for plural of Ferrari is simply Ferrari's.

It's Ferrari.

It's a apostrophe.

Yes.

I don't know why they can't just put the S on there.

They have to put it on apostrophe.

But you don't need there.

It's not for that.

There are places where it gets annoying.

Genesis is like Genesis plural gets annoying.

Okay.

It is what it is.

I'll tell you something else.

From working in the industry when I worked at Porsche, you never pluralized a model name.

And I, when I write car names, I never pluralize it.

Genesis is a manufacturer.

Genesis models is what you would say.

When I worked at Porsche, you would never write a communication where you said Porsche's.

Never.

You wrote Porsche models.

And I guarantee other bands think that you will not find a press release.

I promise you from Mercedes-Benz that says Mercedes-Benz is.

They would say Mercedes-Benz models.

They want the name of the company to stand alone.

And that's how, when I'm writing about cars, that's how I write about.

Yes.

What if Porsche corporate owned Porsche models?

So would they say Porsche says Porsche's Porsche models?

Do you have an annuity segment?

It would be Porsche.

I think we move on.

I think Porsche owns the Porsche.

Yeah.

Porsche Poster Fiesta is okay because, I mean, you couldn't...

Right.

The longing to Porsche.

Porsche in English.

Porsche, it's like the Buffalo thing.

Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo.

Yeah.

It's not like that.

Porsche, Porsche.

We're going to.

The Porsche models belong in two Porsche.

We can't continue this.

Okay.

Next question.

And this is a good one.

Actually, from Cain 720.

I always talk about how cars that are initially hated or disliked often become desirable over time.

Do you think this will happen with the new prelude?

No.

Next question.

That's not true.

It will eventually cost this to be worth as much as a civic.

I think it will be hated forever.

The super did it.

The super somehow went from kind of hated to starting to ascend.

I don't see this one.

At some point, all depreciation curves kind of equalize.

Yeah.

But it still won't be a desirable car.

That's the real problem.

It'll be desirable in the same way that every Honda model is desirable-ish.

Right.

As an affordable used car.

We'll use the reliable car.

So will it someday be beloved?

Yes.

By people who are trying to get to work.

It will, it will never be a car that like inspires passion.

Did you see that there are some dealers that are trying to charge and do the M over sticker for prelude?

Yeah.

That was happening with ID buzz the first day.

But ID buzz was a desirable vehicle for the first day.

I agree.

The dealers are really struggling.

The dealers are trying to capitalize on like the nine people who maybe aren't going to cross shop and are just going to do it.

But within 40 minutes, they're 10 grand over right now.

They're going to be 10 grand under in literally 40 minutes.

Yep.

When this podcast is live next week, they're going to be 10 grand under.

Once.

It's actually going to probably go 0 to 60.

Dear Doug, from Brick Lynn, since you enjoyed the Kuntosh,

would you ever consider purchasing H.

Is that a Marauder V16T if one came up for sale?

It has more camshafts, more cylinders, etc.

No.

Next question.

Why not?

Because it's not serviceable.

One of the things I let you know, the Kuntosh is actually kind of funny.

Like, it has this rep for being difficult to own.

And I'm sure it is.

You know, mine's been okay, but.

But like, there are people who can work on them.

And the parts are pretty available.

I'm actually shocked.

We've never had parts finding trouble.

The Chizetta Marauder V16T.

What's that based on?

I don't even know.

I don't think anything.

I don't know.

I'm scared of Google it because I don't know how to spell.

Okay.

Next question.

From mine.

Cut.

Two A722.

Doug, once you've finally.

I have no idea what I do.

Are you just thinking of the.

Like a dissent of the tipper.

It's the 22.

Cat.

Like, walked over the keyboard.

It's signing up for cars and beds.

What?

What's going on?

I don't know.

I have no idea what I do.

Are you just thinking of the.

Like a dissent of the tipper.

It's the 22.

Cat.

Like, walked over the keyboard.

It's signing up for cars and beds.

What?

One story is finally bought as 9 and 3.

Can you go through all the other available cars he passed on before making his move and comment

on why he chose not to buy them?

Philippe, but why don't you go through this a little?

Yeah.

Do you want to send me a list of what we'll go through one by one?

We'll just go through your.

Philippe, as far as it is that he did.

What else did I think about it?

Is he talking about it?

You think he said specific three?

No, no, no.

Specific three.

Why did you not buy that?

They were a lot that came up.

But I actually, I bought this car almost immediately after I started the whole thing.

Like, I started joking on the pod with the model car.

I don't know when.

Probably in August.

So, I passed on a lot of cars because I already had one and I didn't need two.

Can we give a quick shout out to one of our team members, Michael Chris, who found it for you?

This guy, Michael, sends me a note.

He's one of our team members.

He's one of the auction managers of cars.

That you're a seller.

He's the employee of the company.

We call them team members so they feel better about their family.

Some of these companies in there.

Like, what do they call them at Disney?

That's so ridiculous.

Cast members.

Right.

Michael, they feel good about it.

We love Michael.

I do love Michael, especially because he sends me a message.

I've been looking for 993 turbos and I had found one that had odometer issues.

And since then, others have come up with odometer issues, including some high profile ones.

And so anyway, I found an odometer issues and I was pretty dismayed.

I don't like to buy cars that are really publicly available.

Like, you know, I advertise forever and all that.

And he sends me this one and he's like, hey, you know, this vintage is populated on their DMS

and they're back in software, this dealership.

I think they have one.

They haven't posted it yet.

But it's like starting to show up in their software.

And that was all that I needed.

And within an hour, I owned the car and they never posted it on their website.

That's a situation.

Incredible strategy.

Hey, Michael, where's the magic on 991, please?

Yeah, Michael.

We need a 991.1 manual.

Could I have just slapped you?

Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

Do you think he watches?

Yes.

Oh, of course, because he knew about this enough.

There was a moment where you hadn't announced this.

Kenan hadn't announced his SL65.

And we had the secret cars that we like couldn't talk about it.

Right.

Very frustrating.

You hadn't announced SLR this by the being part.

No, I mean, I was being tongue in cheek about it.

Sure.

Everyone knows.

Okay, here's a really good question from Gianni P.

And Nick, I'll actually let you take this.

Dear Doug, if you had made your big boy money when you were in your early 20s,

what kind of irresponsible car enthusiast decisions would you have likely made?

Oh, good lord.

That's a great question.

It's a great question.

I started making decent money pretty early.

I had a bunch of jobs and I was just working like hustling like crazy.

And I made a lot of mistakes even then.

I bought rusty cars.

I didn't know about rust.

I didn't grow up in a place with rust.

But you make those mistakes.

And honestly, I think it really helps you learn about what to do later.

Better.

And also, I had to learn a lot about personal finance.

Nobody I have ever known in my entire life is in sort of my financial situation.

I had to really learn a lot of that stuff.

And as a result of that, when I finally did get this obviously,

this big infusion of money when the business sold, I was prepared.

And I was smart with it.

And it's an index funds.

And it's in bonds.

And a couple of crazy cars, but good value ones.

However, if I had been in my 20s, yeah, what would have happened?

What do you think?

What would you have gotten?

Well, in my 20s, I was big in a modding cars.

And there were multiple cars where I spent more modifications than the car was worth.

So I absolutely would have been the idiot recommissioning a 957.

For whatever reason, I had a mental barrier that selling a car and buying a car was too much.

And that was a bad financial thing.

Like you're supposed to hold on to your car's front, because that's what boomers start.

They instilled in you in the Midwest.

They instilled that four years is the minimum increment in what you can keep a car.

And so I would have just modded whatever I had when I got that money, regardless of whether it was a Ford Focus.

What would you have gotten, though?

Let's see.

And in my 20s, I was still big in Audi.

So I probably like.

We would have been what we would have been like 2008.

Yeah.

We would have been a good time.

That was a big car.

2008 would have been a good time.

We would have screwed it up to emergency SD.

We should have bought an F40, but we would have bought dumb stuff.

He would have had an E60M5.

Yeah, that's the kind of stuff we probably would have bought.

Because I wasn't as into the older stuff.

And I didn't know that we were living in this peak car era.

When I bought a Ford GT, I don't think so.

I probably would have.

I don't know.

It's hard to know.

Nobody else had either.

If you had a lot of money in an O8, you would have hoped that you would have bought an F40M5, etc.

I imagine it's a lot like the crypto and core seller dudes are now.

Like they just sort of buy like I'm a clarin or like.

Yeah.

Are they buying tasteful stuff, probably not.

Yeah.

I don't know that I would have had the wear with all the put it together that I should.

The good news is that you could have you could have dumb lucked into some pretty good stuff.

Because like the F40, the scoot, like all those cars which turned out to be special cars and good investments.

Agreed.

Probably would have had a G.

Probably would have bought a new range.

Yeah.

For sure.

That would have been a smart decision.

I support it.

Oh wow.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Okay.

You know what I would have done.

Kundal GT.

I would have taken an E90 BMW and put a Mazda.

Mazda, you would have.

I had unlimited money.

You would have.

Unlimited.

Well, certainly it's not unlimited monies but you could have done it for that.

What you sold the company for, right?

Unlimited.

That's how it works.

That's where Blake really is.

That's spent an unlimited dollars.

Blake took all the damn money.

Okay.

That's our pot.

Do you have anything you want to add?

You're here.

I'm going to steal Filippo's question that we didn't ask which is

It's Thanksgiving tomorrow or yesterday depending on when you're one day ago.

Two days ago.

Yeah.

It was Thanksgiving at some point.

Yeah.

What are you grateful for?

What am I grateful for?

Thank you.

Carvise.

Filippo, you're not even an American but we'll let you take this.

Thank you.

Are you an American?

I'm American instead of any.

Naturalized.

What was it like at the thing?

Did you have to like, recite the pledge?

You have to do a bunch of interviews.

There is that like I'm proud to be an American song that plays.

Did they teach you history?

Did they have to tell him about history?

Well, I had gone to school in the US for the third period of time.

My understanding of American history was pretty decent but it wasn't.

What do you think about Thanksgiving as someone who's not a native born American?

Like do you, are you more proud about America or are you less proud?

Mostly I'm just even more confused by Canadian Thanksgiving.

What do you think about it?

It's in October.

What are they really celebrating?

They don't have things to give a thing.

They're Canadian.

They're thankful for everything.

Yeah.

Okay. What are you grateful for?

For Flippone.

Car wise.

Or not, if you want.

Think about this.

I'll ponder.

You go ahead.

I don't.

Doug goes first.

What I'm thankful for, I'll tell you this, is the German factory workers

who created for us the 993 twin turbo.

Wow.

They gave us real specialness.

It's really a man of the people moved for you to think the factory workers

not the engineers.

I'm glad.

They need recognition.

The engineers, I'm not sure what they did.

They put a lot of power in this thing that was created 20 years earlier.

The factory workers are the ones who built the car.

I'm right.

I'll tell you this.

I've been to that factory in Zufenhausen and Stukart.

You think in which is where is it?

Is it in Zufenhausen and Stukart?

I don't know.

I've been there.

I still don't understand the difference.

But it's the only place I ever saw a vending machine for cigarettes.

And so God love those factory workers.

Nick, what do you got?

Thank you.

I'm going to go with, since this is Eric in the future.

I'm grateful to whoever is taking their nods off in Zufenhausen.

I appreciate you.

Please have fun with it.

And best of luck.

Best of luck.

Only three days to go.

Three days to go.

But honestly, I'm grateful for our friend group.

I'll be serious here for a second.

Wow.

We have gotten into an unhealthy dynamic of enabling each other's worst decisions.

And peer-pressuring.

However, this group.

It's so amazing.

And I'm considering the extended group, including people not always on the pod, but in our orbit.

It's so even Saturday, cars and coffee.

It was just such a, there's some stressful things going on outside of work.

And it's just like, or outside of here.

And it was just like, good to hang out and chitchat and just the best.

It's wonderful.

It was.

It was wonderful.

And cars and coffee, of course, goes from 8 to 10 and Filippo shows up at about 6.45 and leaves by 8.15.

So it's nice to see you for the solid two hours from 7.30 to 9.30.

Did you get overlapped?

Yes.

Briefly.

I don't think I saw Nick, but we were there at the same time.

I agree with you.

It's, it is nice to have car enthusiast people.

And if you're out there and you don't have car enthusiast people, we are proud that once a week we get to come and be your car enthusiast people for a little while.

What grateful for.

When you're collaborating with the advanced people, which are trying to bring like the community to different cities.

Like, it's pretty cool concept.

Absolutely.

It's the best.

Oh, I could.

It's so great to be part of like cars.

I've been a part of my life forever.

I've always been in the cars.

But they weren't part of my like day-to-day life.

Right.

A lot of my former co-workers have no clue that I'm into cars.

My close friends do, but it's kind of tangential to my relationship with them.

And it's so cool to hear cars and bids and the office and then outside of office life that have finally become a part of both my professional and personal and friendly life.

You're out here driving verages for work.

Driving verages for work.

I have this theory that I don't ever want to work anywhere where license plates aren't clanging.

Like that distinctive sound.

Like everywhere I've worked dealerships, the factory, the OE, the corporate office, and here.

There's always something.

And license plate.

And that sound you only know if you're in the car business.

You know what I mean?

Otherwise, maybe the DMV.

But I would work there too.

I would work it.

Oh, imagine.

It'd be great.

You could set aside license plates for yourself.

Tournament of roses plates.

By the way, one thing I want to say about my 993.

Pull up the rear picture and nicks are not a share that one of the rear photos.

Nick got his license plate.

His Yosemite plate is 1 UBR 763.

I ordered the Yosemite plates from my 993 and I got 1 UBR 910.

If I had gotten 1 UBR 911, I would have looked like a boomer vanity plate.

1 UBER 911.

So I'm thrilled I didn't get it.

But it was really close.

Yeah, so close.

It's crazy that I mean, these were months apart and like what?

They don't need to be on the 70 plates.

I showed it.

It's a nice looking one.

It's the best one.

Did you see my plate frame too?

Although there is now and San Francisco 49ers, we're going along.

I don't know what we're doing here.

There's now a San Francisco 49ers license plate.

Yeah, you don't want to get into this.

California, if you're a Niners fan, like Nick is, you can go get a 49ers license plate.

It's available.

Go out there and pick one up.

Faithful to not says to state parts.

Faithful to state parts.

By the way, that's what every 49ers fan cheer.

Can we just point something out in this image from the 49ers foundation and from the DMV?

2022 sticker.

Well, they've been holding on to this mock up for a while.

It's not the 49ers fault.

It took California forever.

The 49ers got the correct number of applications a year and a half ago.

And it took them that long to simply place a logo on a license plate.

California is so f-dog.

I'm done with it.

All right.

Anyway, goodbye everybody.

Goodbye.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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