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Let's rev up the conversation.
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Time for Driven Radio Show.
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Hey, all you gear heads and car fiends, I can't believe we're actually getting
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20 minutes after trying to figure out what the hell is wrong.
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I hope nothing goes wrong.
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Welcome to Driven Radio Show, your weekly automotive happy hour.
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I am Brett Hatfield, here with my co-host and engineer extraordinaire, Mr. Mark Roves.
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We are coming to you from the absolutely goddamn frozen Driven Radio Studios.
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When was the last time you were down here?
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Because Jesus, I didn't go use your bathroom, I used your glacier.
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Yeah, it's been a while.
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I had Jaden carry my computer down here when we got back from Monterey and cheese,
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It's really warm outside.
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Walking the house upstairs, it's quite a bit cooler.
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You walk down here, it's quite a bit December.
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Now don't get me wrong, I'm not the type of guy to ever complain about air conditioning.
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Well, especially when you...
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Thank you, Jesus, for making that.
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Yeah, especially when you don't have AC and that fabulous XTERRA of yours and
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you're driving around, it's 90 stinking degrees out.
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I can reflect on my life at 80 miles an hour, it's really nice.
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Then you come in here and for the first four minutes you're down here, you're thinking,
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And then after that, you're thinking, oh, my toes are frostbite.
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Crack the ice on my forehead and start the show.
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You know, I got really spoiled.
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I was in Monterey for almost a week and the high, the entire time we were there,
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I think the last day was the hottest day and it was 74.
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Oh, shut your dirty bottle.
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Yeah, it's not awful, it's just terrible.
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And it was wonderful.
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Again, we did the, you know, the place on the beach and you open the windows when
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you get there and you got that ocean breeze and you get a listen to the surf.
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And our guest tonight drove down and stayed with us in the condo on the beach.
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It's our favorite repeat offender, Mr. John Fakara, Fakara Classic.
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He's an automotive historian, a marketer and a walking encyclopedia.
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He owned a picture car company called Creative Film Cars in New York City and
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ran an illegal cross-country cannonball event called the 2904.
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He did that for a decade.
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Well, I'm pretty sure the statute of limitations has run out.
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He was the marketing director and in-house historian for Canapa.
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He has been building and racing cars in the 24 hours of lemons for years.
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Like I said, he owns Fakara Classic, a company that researches, restores,
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and markets collector road and race cars.
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He's a regular guest on VinWiki Car Stories on YouTube with over 30 million views.
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That's three with a bunch of zeros.
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And he has his own YouTube channel that is growing by leaps and bounds.
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John's work has appeared in magazines such as 0000, vintage race car, classic Porsche,
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Speed Sport, and on the Lufka Golt website.
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John, welcome back to Driven Radio.
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Thanks for having me back, boys.
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Doesn't seem like it's been that long since I saw you.
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We were lucky enough to find a last minute beach condo for Monterey Car Week, as in
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And John and his cool friend Scotty drove down from Nevada City and stayed with us.
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In turn, John had me drive one of the strangest cars on the road to Radwood on Friday.
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John, how far was the drive from Nevada City?
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Oh, probably in time, about five hours or so.
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In distance, like 170 miles or so, I think.
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And how did you get invited to Radwood this year?
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Cindy Miley called me up and, well, she wrote me and she's a PR, automotive PR
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person that I've known since Canapa.
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And she's like, what do you got in the stable?
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And I said, oh, I mean, list them off for you.
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So I just fired them all off and she picked three because she was doing the
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work for two different events, the Paddock and the other event was called
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the Concorso Italiano, very appropriate for you, sir.
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Oh, so I have so many Italian cars.
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So but inside the Paddock event on Friday, they had a curated Radwood display.
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So only they had to be selected.
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You couldn't just like drive your Radwood car in there.
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Pick 50 of the best Radwood cars to be shown Friday night.
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And the car you had me drive over there, your name for that car?
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Where'd you find it?
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Give us the rundown.
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So the Strange Rover is a 1976 Range Rover six by four.
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So it has six wheels.
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And most people think, you know, when I drive it, they're like, oh,
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did you build this?
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These there were a certain amount of them built in the seventies.
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Originally, there was a company called Carmichael that took that Range Rover
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sent the chassis over directly from the factory.
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Like this was as close to factory made as you could get.
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And Carmichael would extend them and add a another axle to the rear
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and turn them into like small airport ambulances and fire engines.
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And the extra axle was to hold the weight of the water tank
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or the medical equipment.
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And then a few years later, they realized it was the civilian version
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of this would sell.
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So they started selling them to the Middle East.
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And for a brief run in the seventies, there were like three or four
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British companies that built these six wheelers in the most outrageous.
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Like we had custom vans.
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They built these six wheelers for these guys in, you know, the Middle East.
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And they had falconing ones to the whole rear
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roof would slide forward at the back.
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So you'd have like a really huge because they have like an eight foot
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bed in them with the extension.
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They'd have two chairs that would rise up three feet out of the roof
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and they would have a rack where they would have all their falconing things
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and the birds would live inside so they could go falconing or hunting
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or shooting from out back inside their range Rover with air conditioning.
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And they were lavish and weird in seventies.
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And I've always wanted one. I'm a six wheel.
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I love six wheeled vehicles.
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I mean, ever since my GMC motor homes and the
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the the Tyrell P 34 six wheel F one car.
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Yeah. You know, I always wanted like that's kind of my dream.
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So all of these were in the Middle East or in Europe.
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There were never any in the United States.
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And I saw one in an auction that somebody sent me a link
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because I always get these six wheel links people sent to me.
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And they're like, in Paris, there's a six wheel range Rover for sale.
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And this just happened to be right around April 1st.
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OK. So what happened was I don't think the Europeans
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understand what April 1st is, that it's April Fool's Day here.
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So they did they did their big publicity push for this vehicle
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on April 1st on the internet.
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Nobody bit on it because everybody was like
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and all like I have I've got copies.
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I made screenshots of all the different websites, you know,
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like Jalopnik and all that.
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They're like hilarious April Fool's truck, you know, by a six wheeled range Rover.
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So I called the I called up the the auction house and I'm like,
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what's what's the real number on this?
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And they're like, you actually want to buy it? I'm like, yes.
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So so they talked to the owner.
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The owner was a Parisian art dealer
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and he would deliver art in the back of it because he needed a bigger bed.
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Serious, that's what it is.
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And it drove around Paris for a good 10 years or so just delivering art.
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So who knows what was in the back of this thing?
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And it was I got I finally I found like when I got it,
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I didn't know what the hell it was or who made it
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or if it was a Carmichael or if it was another company's car.
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I just had to have it.
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And I got the history.
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I actually talked to the guy who bought it in England and brought it to Switzerland
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and converted it because they were all two doors.
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So all Range Rovers were two doors until the ladies.
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Yeah. And most people don't don't know that that that the four door
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was kind of created for the U.S.
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market when Range Rover came into the U.S.
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market in the late 80s.
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And so the body on the car is actually a 1989 Range Rover body.
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So it's a four door six wheeler, which are very, very few
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because that's totally custom.
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Most six wheelers are two doors.
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So this Swiss guy found this rotted out thing in England,
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brought it over, put a four door body on it, did a nice job.
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And so this art dealer in France.
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And then I had to get it.
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And then then the story got interesting because
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I was kind of him in a hauling and like, should I get it?
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And Ed Bolian of Winnwicky was working on the one of his next
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car tracks season 10.
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They were going to do a bunch of off-roaders.
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And he's like, what about if I buy it?
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And we turned it into an overlander vehicle.
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So we got it, shipped it to me.
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Mechanic Matt and I worked on it for a few months.
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Well, first we took it to Radwood.
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As soon as it came off the boat, like literally a week after that,
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we took it to Radwood here in California.
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It won Best Truck at Radwood.
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Yeah, right out of the box.
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And we didn't even do the overland stuff yet.
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And then we brought it up here, made a custom rack for it.
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The idea was to kind of make it.
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Remember the old camel trophy trucks?
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Yeah. Right back in the day, we tried to do that.
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So I made a huge rack for the roof, which is actually two racks we put together.
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Custom rack, custom lighting, two inch lift kit, bigger tires,
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all kinds of lighting, a winch.
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We did everything to it.
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And I think we did it all in like a month and a half.
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And then we drove it down to
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it was we took it to Monterey when they shot
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Cartrex nine because we shot nine and 10 back to back.
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And then we took it up to Oregon and shot
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Cartrex 10 where Ed drives it.
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And after they were done with it,
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Ed took it home and then I was always kind of like, I still want it.
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So he was doing one of his collection sales.
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He just did one here.
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I think he sold six cars on cars and bids.
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And this was like a year ago.
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He did another got a clear clear of the decks kind of sale.
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So he put he put that up on Sotheby's Motorsports.
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we came to a deal and I got it. I bought it.
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It's now back here.
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And I've been driving it around for about a year and it's been a blast.
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So it's it's it returned to Monterey for the second time last week.
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So you mean to tell me that Ed didn't fall in love with that truck and keep it?
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I without a doubt is his most loath of the vehicle.
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And he hates this truck so much.
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You you just either either mention it or show a picture of it.
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And you can see flames flickering in his eye.
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It's just like he did not have a pleasant experience with it
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during the filming of Car Trek 10.
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It was just it it's not a six wheel drive vehicle.
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So if you don't have it locked into four wheel drive,
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it gets stuck a lot.
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It is woefully underpowered.
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It's got a three point nine liter Rover V8 in it,
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which probably has a hundred and fifty horsepower or something feels like it.
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So it'll do 70 all day long.
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We got 14 and a half miles a gallon driving it.
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But as soon as you see a hill, it just goes, oh, it starts slowing down.
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Scotty drove it down from here and he did he did a great job.
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As soon as he started climbing the the coastal range.
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And I'm towing, right?
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I'm telling the 928 I'm blasting up the hill.
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He starts disappearing behind me as he's crawling like 45 miles an hour.
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He's going up the hills.
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So yeah, you know, Ed loves to put his foot in it.
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And he just there was no there's no power.
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I mean, he's an L.S. swap.
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It needs a six by six bill, which is why I bought it back
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because I kind of want it.
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My goal really was to L.S.
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swap it six by six it and then fly it out
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and make him like it.
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That was my channel.
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I'm going to make you like the Range Rover Strange Rover.
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And he's like, not a hope in hell is that going to happen?
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Which is why I was starting to give him crap about it
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when we were standing there eating lunch.
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I know he doesn't like that thing.
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And I just, you know, how many chances am I going to get to needle him about it?
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Well, I think with 400 horsepower and real six wheel drive,
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that thing would be a hoop. Oh, yeah, it would be real fun.
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The one thing I learned driving that is a conservation of momentum.
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Yes. You know, you just when you see people
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slowing down in front of you, you take your foot off the gas
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and you just kind of hover over the brake pedal.
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Please don't make me push it. Please don't make me push it.
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Please don't make me push it.
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Just praying to God that you don't actually have to touch the brakes.
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It's it's it's the only thing that that truck in Prius
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having common is the hyper mile drive style, right?
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Go through the corners, make the most out of the downhill.
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Yes, just use that downhill, baby. Use it.
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All right, you mentioned the 928.
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Tell us about the Overlander 928.
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What was the inspiration for it? Who painted it?
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And what all you've done to make it off road ready?
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Well, the hippie 928 hippie safari car
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that won Radwood in San Francisco last year.
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That was I had four 928s.
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I bought one 928 because I've always wanted one in my life
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and I wanted a first year car, manual, posh interior, European.
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I had a whole list and I found it.
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After I got that, I ended up with three more parts cars.
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People just kind of threw them at me for cheap.
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And this one was a 79 European car.
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So the same engine for those who don't know
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early on in the 928s life, the Euro motor
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and the U.S. motor were very, very different.
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And the output was the difference of like 35 horsepower.
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So the U.S. is like 215 horsepower.
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The European car was 240.
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So European engine was much, much, much better.
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So it was a good parts car, but it was an automatic.
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And we had a sitting in my driveway for like a year.
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And every time we went to start it and move it, fired up, moved.
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The other two parts cars, not so much.
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And I'm like, I came a day where I'm like,
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I felt bad about scrapping it.
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We start taking parts off of it. I'm like, this car works.
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I can let's do something with it.
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And this is right before Wrensport seven.
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I figured just for fun, Wrensport, we should make some art cars.
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So I painted my seventy eight.
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Well, I didn't paint it.
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Kelly Telfer, the fine artist, painted it Hasha.
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And we started getting that ready.
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And then we took the parts car, the 79 car automatic.
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And we're like, let's do the hippie livery from the 1970 917 Lamal car,
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which is one of my favorite liveries of all time.
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Yeah, bright green, bright, bluish, purple.
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And we flew out Christopher Michaels, also a Vin Wickey fame,
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but also worked with Hot Wheels for a while and a fantastic artist.
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So he came out and he just started like he rattle can the base.
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And then he hand painted all the green shapes and the white outline.
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I mean, in three days, he painted the whole thing.
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He was out there all day, three days.
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And the paint job came out awesome.
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I mean, if you see pictures of it, it looks brilliant.
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We were looking at it.
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I'm like, you know what?
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That's cool and all.
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But how do we make it even cooler?
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You know, the safari thing is really big with nine elevens right now.
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And I was like, let's safari it.
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I have a friend of mine, Greg at PRG.
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He does suspensions for like Baja Trophy trucks.
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And he actually does conversions of Cayans into off-road vehicles.
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So I called him up. He's just down the road.
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He's awesome, dude, and really talented.
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One of those guys who could just take a lump of aluminum
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and turn it into something, you know, he just goes, hold on a second.
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He turns the machine on.
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You don't know what he's doing.
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It's like, you know, the wizard behind the curtain,
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pulling levers and things that outcomes apart and it's finished.
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So he's like, I can custom make a lift, a two inch lift kit for that.
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And I said, yes, please.
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And two inches is about as high as you can lift the car
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before you start having to change a lot of geometry on other stuff.
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So he made a two inch lift kit for it.
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I got some bigger off-road tires for it.
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And then what was left over from the two racks
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that we built the Range Rover's rack out of
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were the two or two ends of it.
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So we put those together.
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We made a rack for the roof.
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We took the push bar and lights off the front of the cannonball ambulance
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and put them on the front.
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Then we got some Jeep lim risers and put those on the rack.
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And it just started coming together.
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And then this guy pops up on one of the 928 Facebook pages.
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I'm on. He's like, oh, I got a 928 roll bar.
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I'm like, who has what?
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I didn't even know it existed.
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He's like, yeah, free. I'm moving.
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Anybody wants to come get it?
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So I hopped in the ambulance.
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I drove like 100 miles, picked that up.
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So we put a roll bar in it.
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We stripped out the rear seats.
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We kind of made a rear deck for it so you can put in,
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you know, we had the traction boards back there
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and fuel tanks and all kinds of things.
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It just started coming together out of spare parts.
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And it got cooler and cooler and it ran great.
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And we started taking it off road.
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And honestly, it drives.
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Fantastic off road.
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It's stock shocks because they're so pulled out.
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It just floats like a Cadillac.
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Oh, the only thing it really needs
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is probably the rear end needs to be regeared
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a little taller so it can match the bigger tires.
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Yeah, so it'll we just get a little bit more leverage.
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But other than that, really,
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we got the nice leather front seats out
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of one of the other parts cars
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so the interior came together really nice.
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It was one of those just accidental cool projects
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and we've had a blast with it and people love it.
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People like it run one Radwood.
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We took it to Monterey last year.
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Motor Trend named it one of the top 10 cars of Monterey in 2024.
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Yeah, it's been a blast.
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And it is now for sale.
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Anybody out there who's interested in a hippie safari Porsche 928.
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I'm afraid that's going to be kind of a small demographic.
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Yeah, you know, probably.
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But for the right person, it's awesome.
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Because yeah, we went through we went through the whole engine.
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We like we did the the timing belt, water pump, oil pump.
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We did all the stuff on it.
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So all the 928 stuff's been attended to.
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Yeah, it's been a great car.
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Plus, you get a custom Christopher Michael's paint job
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and you can go anywhere and you are the car.
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Well, unless it's parked behind the stranger over, in which case.
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You know, it is a competition when they're next to each other.
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God, look at that 928.
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Holy crap, what's that?
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That's got six wheels on it.
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This stranger over definitely almost caused like three or four accidents.
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I know I was in it for part of it.
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It is odd to see people's reaction
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when you drive by in that thing and they're like, hey, look, what the hell?
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So yeah, you do get that a lot.
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You also brought what would in any other crowd
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would be a really unique looking Porsche Cayenne.
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Tell us a little bit about the Cayenne.
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What's the car's history?
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What's been done to it?
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Does it make a good tow vehicle?
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So the Cayenne was the third vehicle they asked me to bring,
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which is perfect because I can tow with it.
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So we towed the 928 with it.
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It is a 2015 Porsche Cayenne turbo that was modified
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excuse me for to drive.
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This is something that at Bolian put together with his sponsored sway.
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They built four of these things.
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And what we were going to do was race from the top of Alaska,
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Proto Bay, Alaska down to the bottom of Argentina
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and try to set the Pan American Cannonball record.
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So going north to south in North and South America.
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And we had it planned out and we figured we could do it in 11 days,
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which would destroy the previous record.
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And unfortunately, storms in Colombia wiped out the roads.
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And then politics got into it.
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The people we had talking to at the State Department basically said,
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You're not going to be able to do this run for a couple of years.
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Oh, the guys this way pivoted and said,
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are we going to do something with these things before they get too old?
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And they tricked them out.
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It's like stock suspension, but they got a lot of sponsors.
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Brake given bigger wheels.
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It was really interesting trying to get wheels to fit over the giant
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turbo brakes is tricky and off-road car because they have to be big
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enough to get over the brakes, but small enough that you can have
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a sidewall of a tire.
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You have a big enough tire that also can go 150 miles an hour.
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So like there were only two tires that we came up with that could do that.
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So the wheels, it had roof rack spares.
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It had a spare on the back.
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They were being rigged up for this run.
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So instead, we did a sponsored run to Prudhoe Bay to the Arctic Ocean.
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So we drove them in 2023, two of them.
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We raced from their headquarters in Montana.
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Ed drove one with his team.
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I drove the other with mine.
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We ran up to the Arctic Ocean, jumped in the Arctic Ocean, said,
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we're here, turn around and drove back.
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Arctic Ocean, a little nippy.
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It is a little nippy, but it's the amazing thing.
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It's super shallow where we were.
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So you can literally walk out hundreds of yards and you're only up to your waste.
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No danger of drowning in the icy water, but it's cold.
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It's cold. And we were there in the summer.
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We drove up there in July or August.
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So this is interesting.
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The Dalton Highway is the run from that you see an ice road
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truckers that goes up to the oil fields.
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And normally in the ice roads, it is the ice roads are beautiful.
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They plane them out.
25:23
It's all gorgeous and flat.
25:25
And apparently you can make the trucks can make the run in the winter
25:28
in like eight hours.
25:30
In the summer, it's like 12 to 14 because the when ice melts,
25:35
it's nothing but ruts and holes and dirt and gravel and mud.
25:40
And we had the most fun driving these things because there's no there's no cops.
25:46
Like you're driving flat out as fast as you want.
25:49
The only thing that out there are big rigs and we had sea bees
25:53
and we were like, hey, talking to the big rigs and they were cool with us.
25:56
And they thought we were, you know, we were being very polite with them
25:58
and they say, as long as we're playing with them, they took care of us.
26:01
We blasted up that thing.
26:03
Like just for Michael's phrases, it is running off the chain.
26:08
Like just like, well, there's no rule.
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So you just, ah, there's no road rules.
26:14
It's like it's if you had your own private road on your on your land,
26:17
except it went on for 12 hours.
26:21
That thing was a blast after they finished with it.
26:23
It kind of sat up at their place and I think Ed got one of them.
26:28
He got number 23 as part of his deal.
26:32
And then I called them up last year and said, you have any of those left?
26:37
He's like, yeah, we got number 24.
26:38
I'm like, would you sell it to me?
26:42
And they're like, absolutely.
26:43
They gave me a amazing price on it and considering all the work they had done to it.
26:49
And I picked it up and it's been my daily driver ever since.
26:52
And it does, yes, make an excellent tow vehicle.
26:56
One of the reasons I wanted it, because a cayenne, that that body,
27:00
which is also the Q seven and the Volkswagen.
27:08
Oh, that was a tour egg.
27:13
They're rated at 7700 pounds towing and 750 pounds tongue weight.
27:18
So that's pretty much most stuff.
27:21
That's a single car trailer.
27:24
And the the turbo's got five hundred and something horsepower.
27:28
So it's got all the power to pull and it pulls.
27:32
You wouldn't. I mean, literally, it's one of those cars.
27:34
We never you would never know there's something behind you.
27:36
Well, towing. Oh, terrific.
27:40
You never feel like the trailer.
27:41
I was towing a 20 foot open single car trailer.
27:44
Now, you were towing a very nice open single car trailer.
27:49
I was I was super jealous when I saw it.
27:53
Yeah, that I got a deal on that thing.
27:55
That was when it was a covid deal.
27:57
Gentlemen moved out from Oklahoma, bought a brand new move to Nevada,
28:02
not too far from me and parked it.
28:06
And a year later, that's it.
28:08
He drove it once and a year later, he sold it to me.
28:12
Yeah, about about the only way you get a nicer open single car trailer
28:16
is if you get one of those featherlight aluminum deals.
28:19
I don't I like those, but I don't like aluminum
28:22
only because you have to have them crack checked every few years.
28:26
And mostly who buy aluminum trailers don't know that.
28:31
They they require inspection every few years because
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they don't make any noise and they just snap.
28:38
And I've seen a couple of the aluminum featherlights.
28:41
They make steel trailers as well, but they're aluminum trailers.
28:47
Actually, the coolest trailer is that I'm afraid who makes it.
28:51
It's the one that lay lays flat on the ground,
28:55
like you push a button and the entire deck goes flat on the ground.
28:59
Oh, cool. And you just you just so you don't need any ramps.
29:03
You can drive a Lamborghini on there.
29:05
You push a button and the whole thing rises up.
29:07
Oh, I want one of those.
29:09
There's like 20 grand. I'm sure.
29:12
And for the open one, if you want the closed, they have a closed one,
29:16
which is even cooler with like a fabric closed body around it.
29:20
Oh, wow. That's like another 10.
29:23
That if I had all the money in the world, I would that's what I would buy.
29:27
But you're talking about 30 grand and that's another fun car.
29:31
Yeah, I mean, and this trailer cost me forty five hundred bucks.
29:34
So I'm not complaining.
29:36
No, that's that's the way to do it.
29:38
Alrighty, we haven't we haven't done a shop update with you in a while.
29:42
So let's start with the the one that's got me most interested
29:48
for the uninitiated.
29:50
What is the Rocky Aoki 9 11 limo?
29:55
How's it progressing?
29:56
We started to talk about the engine the other day
29:58
and then you and I got sidetracked by something.
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And so you have to tell me that story that you started.
30:05
So the Rocky Aoki 9 11 is a 73 9 11 Targa limousine.
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So it was cut and stretched or feet.
30:19
Because why wouldn't you have a Targa top?
30:21
No, so it's a twin Targa.
30:23
There's a Targa over both doors.
30:25
It also has a nine five nine
30:28
fiberglass body kit on it.
30:30
And Rocky Aoki, who was the founder of Benihana and also a real maniac.
30:39
Was into racing limousines in the One Lap of America event,
30:44
which was the which came after the cannonball.
30:47
Brock Yates ran it in the 80s and 90s.
30:52
So you could race back.
30:55
So the original one lap, the one lap America now is run by Brock Junior,
30:59
who is fantastic in his events, amazing.
31:02
And I highly recommend it.
31:03
But what it is is you race from racetrack to racetrack.
31:07
And you do it as a cumulative time event.
31:10
And you do the both ends are at the tire rack and it's a blast.
31:14
I did it a few years ago and I had the best time.
31:17
But when it started, the One Lap of America was originally a lap of America.
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Rocky Yates would go to for he drive his car
31:26
to four different corners of the Knights of the Continental United States
31:30
then set times and then you had to match his time as close as possible
31:35
without knowing what it was.
31:40
And so a limousine made sense
31:42
because you'd be in the car for days.
31:46
It was a real in car endurance event.
31:49
And Rocky originally did it in he was trying to promote
31:52
Benihana microwave dinners.
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So he had a Rolls Royce with a microwave in it
31:57
and they ate Benihana dinners the whole way around.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
32:05
I'm not going to experience that.
32:07
That's kind of what I'm trying to picture.
32:12
It was the car muster reeked of sulfur and cocaine.
32:22
That's one of the levels of hell, I'm sure.
32:24
Or heaven, depending on who you're at.
32:26
I mean, seriously. Oh, wow. Oh, God.
32:30
So he had he had limousines built after that.
32:32
He had a Volkswagen Bug Limousine built.
32:34
He had a Corvette C3 limousine built.
32:37
So this was one of his limos.
32:38
It was he used it in 1991.
32:41
And then it was kind of abandoned at a body shop to be restored in LA.
32:48
And then this artist bought it in Los Angeles and Silver Lakes.
32:51
And he got it for years.
32:54
And every year or so for about 15 years,
32:58
it would pop up on Craigslist and then Facebook Marketplace for sale.
33:03
And it was kind of this ghost legend of the Internet that this thing existed.
33:09
And a few I guess it's been a year now that I've had it.
33:15
A couple of years ago, people sent it to me.
33:17
They're like, you this is what you need to buy, because I'm sort of an expert
33:20
on nine five nines or pour some a nine eleven guy or some a weird car guy.
33:28
So Ed Bolian, another Ed's name comes up a lot in some bad decisions.
33:36
He does seem to kind of encourage your behavior in nature.
33:42
In the best in the best possible way.
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You should get this thing and turn it into a YouTube thing.
33:50
So long story short, I bought it.
33:55
The amount of people that when I posted it were like, this thing's real.
33:58
Like you bought it and it's real, really.
34:02
We took it apart and it is as dreadful as you can imagine.
34:09
Nineteen late nineteen eighties.
34:12
Cocaine fuel limousine building techniques, as you'd imagine,
34:17
just like the worst welds, the worst construction.
34:20
The floor was like corrugated, galvanized steel from like somebody's shed.
34:27
No, the outside of the car was the rolling
34:31
embodiment of the Peruvian marching powder.
34:34
Oh, my God, the nine five nine body kit is amazing.
34:39
So the goal is to restore it and build it a little build it back better.
34:48
And so it's kind of sat for the past six months, maybe even eight months now.
34:55
Because I've had a lot of client projects in the garage, we had to finish up.
34:59
And those are now completed now that Monterey's over.
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I can get back to it.
35:02
But before we we put it on to the side, I had this, I had a couple of things done.
35:07
One was I bought a Porsche 930 motor.
35:11
And of course, that's a turbo engine.
35:14
So the intercooled turbo motor from the crazy junkyard auction arms,
35:24
junkyard auction LA and we took it apart.
35:28
Tom Aiman, who is a master Porsche engine builder for he's built two engines.
35:34
I asked him how many he's done.
35:35
He said, I did two engines a month for 45 years.
35:39
You and this is what we were talking about.
35:42
And I never what was the yeah, yeah, yeah, go on with the story.
35:47
But the the end was did you get to pick it up?
35:55
So yeah, I'll get to that.
35:56
So we we we redid the trend.
35:59
Oh, that's we got the transmission in the engine.
36:01
Transmission was still it was still it was the only thing in the car.
36:04
The car came without an engine.
36:06
The some mechanic is stolen it years ago.
36:08
The transmission we rebuilt, which has and this is why this thing is so special.
36:16
The last four digits of its serial number are 2904.
36:24
We freaked out for those who don't know it.
36:26
The 2904 was the cannonball event that John ran for a decade.
36:32
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:35
So it was an omen that this thing had a cannonball again at some point.
36:39
So Tom and I rebuilt the 915 transmission, but he has all these tricks.
36:44
He raced 935s and 911s.
36:46
So he's actually put 930 motors into regular 911s.
36:50
And he's like, we can build a 915 transmission to handle 450 horsepower.
36:54
So we we put some 930 parts on it and he rebuilt that.
36:58
Then we tore the 930 motor down and he's like, this thing's in great shape
37:02
because this probably has 40,000 miles on it.
37:05
It probably came from a crashed car because part of a couple of things
37:08
were bent on the side and it was a junkyard.
37:11
So he's like, this is in great shape.
37:13
We took it all apart.
37:15
He's he's like, here are all the people to send it to.
37:18
So I sent out all the parts of the machine, the heads and all those bits.
37:22
And the machinist goes, yeah, how these done in two weeks.
37:29
And that was five months ago.
37:39
I picked them up last Friday, Friday.
37:42
No, no, no, no, no, I picked them up this Monday
37:45
after I got back from Monterey, drove back down the barrier,
37:47
picked them up 151 days later.
37:51
He's like, not apologetic, just like, yep, that's how long it took.
37:55
I'm like, he's like, and he's like, and it's going to be more expensive
38:00
because it was tougher to do than I thought.
38:02
I'm like, oh, my gosh, here's the here's the problem.
38:05
The side note is that all these skills, these machinists
38:11
and and interior guys and fabricators, they're all this
38:17
just just like this guy, Gary's like 73 still works.
38:21
Yeah, 10 or 12 hours a day.
38:24
They're going to die at their machines and they have had taught nobody how to do it.
38:29
And I've I've talked to like I talked to Tom Amon.
38:34
He's built tons of Porsche motors.
38:36
Guess how many people were interested in learning from him? Zero.
38:40
We can change that.
38:43
We need to change that.
38:44
We can change that.
38:45
That's where the MacPherson College connection comes through.
38:49
And I need to get you in touch with Amanda Gutierrez
38:56
and we can change that because there are kids going through that program
38:59
who want to know how to do this stuff.
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I here's the here's the problem.
39:03
McPherson's fantastic, but it is one school in the middle of the country.
39:09
We need a dozen of these schools.
39:12
We need one here in Northern California.
39:15
I've got I've got enough instructors.
39:18
The retired guys alone that have left Canapa, that have aged out of Canapa,
39:22
their interior guy, he did.
39:25
He does like on the side now.
39:26
And he's he's in the 70s on the side now.
39:29
He does four Hubble Beach cars a year, makes two hundred and fifty
39:33
thousand dollars a year.
39:35
You know, and there's no kid that wants to learn how to do that.
39:37
The one of Bruce's fabricators, he's he's fantastic.
39:41
He's a half an hour for me.
39:43
He's helping me with the the the Iyoki car.
39:47
And he does side projects in his house.
39:53
All of them are like, I'd love to teach somebody.
39:55
Amanda Gutierrez, if you're listening.
39:59
And and she very well may be there are.
40:04
The I think the problem is there are more shops than there are kids to send.
40:11
And I think it's it's awareness.
40:15
I think kids have to know that this is an option.
40:19
When I was working at Canapa, giving the tours,
40:21
I'd walk the kids around and be like, guess how much this guy makes?
40:27
And because every kid can up is near the Bay Area.
40:31
Every kid's like, what do you want to do?
40:33
I want to do a program or make three hundred thousand dollars a year.
40:36
Like, yeah, odds are that's not going to happen again.
40:39
But how about this?
40:42
If you're not some computer genius and you like to work with your hands,
40:46
you can make two hundred thousand dollars a year specializing in something
40:50
nobody can do anymore. Yeah.
40:52
You know, like the like the Dozenberg, the first Dozenberg that we restored
40:58
each part of that had to be hand fabricated.
41:01
It had a wood frame for the body,
41:06
which is the first class they make you take in the restoration program
41:09
as a woods class, so you know how to do the wood frames
41:12
and all the woodwork and prewar cars.
41:16
It's and if you don't know how to do it,
41:19
you know, if you don't learn how to do it, I'm so happy that place exists.
41:23
But I think it's only the first step in
41:26
in keeping our cars alive for the next generations.
41:31
So anyway, I'm dealing with all these
41:34
seventies and 80 year olds who take six months to do things
41:38
because they're working alone in their shops.
41:40
Oh, another guy I got a great was from
41:43
I was I was reached out to a few people because I had to build a new floor
41:46
for the Aoki car. Mm hmm.
41:49
You didn't want to go back or get it.
41:51
No. And I found this old dragster guy
41:57
who built dragsters because I was thinking about like who lengthens cars,
42:02
right, limo people do it.
42:03
But usually, awfully, they're just doing it on a budget
42:07
and they have to look good.
42:08
I said, who builds who lengthens cars and they have to do something.
42:12
And my dragster guys do.
42:14
They're always stretching because the longer it is, right?
42:16
You know, less than those people, they build all these special gassers and things.
42:20
So I talked to him and he's like, oh, I'll build you a floor for that.
42:25
And he came over and measured a bunch of things.
42:28
And I said, OK, give me some drawings.
42:30
And I'd love to see the drawings and we'll work on what the design is.
42:33
He goes, absolutely. Sure.
42:35
Week later, he shows up with his truck and he's made the floor already.
42:42
Just by looking at it once, it's eighth inch steel.
42:46
And it has a boxed center section like he would where you would have
42:49
like a drive shaft, but obviously have it.
42:52
That's where all the cables and shifting and everything goes through
42:55
the middle of a nine eleven.
42:56
It'll create essentially a box from the front of the car to the back.
43:01
It'll act as a third member to the rockers.
43:04
He's all this ain't going nowhere.
43:06
He's like, because you this will be the strongest part of the car.
43:10
He's all that because you don't need anything above it
43:13
because the floor itself will be so rigid.
43:16
And if sure enough, we put it in the car and it goes
43:20
and fits perfectly with within a sixteenth of an inch.
43:26
I get that would I would have gone through three or four sheets
43:29
of steel doing what he did without really looking at it.
43:34
So of course, I want to learn from these people, but I'm in my fifties.
43:37
Like I'm me learning this stuff is pointless, except for my own,
43:42
you know, edification, you know, a 20 year old, a 30 year old needs to learn this stuff.
43:47
We could send them out there to learn, but I understand all of them
43:50
are figuring out how to put clutches in ZR ones.
43:52
Stop. Stop it right now.
43:56
Coming for you. So I'm going to punch you in the neck next to my seat.
43:59
I told you I'd work it in.
44:01
And I hate that car.
44:04
I hate it. Hate to see four car back.
44:08
I'm so proud of myself for that.
44:11
Oh, wow. Just just waiting, just waiting.
44:15
It took a while to figure out where to get it.
44:18
Yeah. So we're going to look, we're now at Monterey's over.
44:22
We're going to start shooting videos again and start doing more content.
44:25
We'll get the nine eleven.
44:26
Well, what else is in your shop besides that nine thirty?
44:28
That thing takes up a chunk of room.
44:30
It's not a short car.
44:32
So I got that. I've got a sixty six nine eleven
44:35
that I is has a RSR body kit on it.
44:41
So it looks like it's a short wheel piece.
44:42
RSR is a kooky little car.
44:45
Don't tell. Don't be less.
44:48
Seven S motor in it that revs to like seventy two hundred RPM.
44:55
I love it. So we're fixing that car up.
44:57
We're selling that. That's for sale.
44:59
I've got a nine nine six cab that we just redid the engine on.
45:03
That'll be for sale pretty soon.
45:05
That was belonged to like a lifelong PCA member.
45:08
Do you like working on nine nine sixes?
45:10
Oh, what's your opinion?
45:11
I have no desire ever, ever to touch a water cooled nine eleven again in my life.
45:17
Well, you got a nine twenty eight, John.
45:19
You're kind of going to have to.
45:20
Well, you know what I'm talking about.
45:22
Yeah, I want to talk like a nine eleven, a water cooled nine eleven.
45:25
No, thank you. No desire.
45:29
Anything I I the usually the rule for my shop is
45:33
is nothing with OBD two or newer.
45:36
Yeah, I don't want computers or anything like that.
45:39
So if it's if it's analog, I'll work on it.
45:42
It's much more fun that way. But no, no desire.
45:45
So we got that. I'm getting the Soprona race car running again.
45:49
We got new turbo for that.
45:51
So hopefully you'll be racing that at the end of November.
45:54
It's a 1970 Toyota Corona that has the subframes from 87 Toyota Supra.
46:02
The brakes from a Mustang Cobra R
46:06
and a one JZ turbo straight six.
46:11
And flared rear fenders made out of what?
46:15
In fact, the front air dams made out of license plates.
46:18
The rear deck spoilers made out of license plates.
46:22
The front box flares have license plates on them.
46:26
That's been kind of the fleet, the theme that just happened.
46:28
Was my friend was it because you had the license plate sitting around
46:32
and you needed cheap metal or how did that happen?
46:36
I've always used license plates, because they're they're inexpensive,
46:40
quick aluminum things you can cut up and use the block holes
46:43
and stuff like that on race cars.
46:45
And we just started getting carried away.
46:48
And then Travis Bell, my friend in Indiana,
46:51
who owns celebrity machines, you should go to their website.
46:55
They've got every every license plate
46:58
from every movie or TV show that ever existed.
47:01
So he's one of the kindest, coolest people on the planet.
47:06
I said, hey, I'm doing more license plate stuff.
47:11
He's like, say no more.
47:12
And he sent me a box of their kind of.
47:17
Damaged license plates like once it didn't meet quality control.
47:21
And honestly, I'd say that 90 percent of them,
47:24
I couldn't even tell what was wrong with them.
47:26
So we that's what we.
47:28
So I've got license plates from on there from Caddyshack,
47:33
Eatenville, Knievel, Rocky, the Avengers.
47:37
Like I've got it's so much fun, that car's a blast.
47:39
So we'll be racing that hopefully again in November.
47:42
You cannot overstate what's going on.
47:46
What a sweet heart of a human being, Travis Bell is.
47:52
If if anybody should win the Nobel Peace Prize,
47:57
it's Travis Bell for Travis Bell.
47:59
Like if there was an automotive category for the Nobel Peace Prize,
48:02
like the kindest, helpful, you know, he's just one of those people.
48:07
He's a hub of happiness.
48:10
Yeah. And he just he just helps anybody who needs help.
48:14
And he he runs these fantastic events at his house.
48:16
Like he's having not this weekend, but I think next weekend
48:19
he's having his Holden.
48:20
Yeah. Best of all at his house out back in the Midwest.
48:24
He did the backyard four hundred go kart race in the back of his house.
48:28
Oh, just all for all.
48:30
Radis, because he just would like to have a good time.
48:33
And he's cannonball.
48:34
He built the best replica of the cannonball ambulance from the movie.
48:39
Yes, I got to I got to drive that
48:42
in a cannonball attempt, which to this day is still one of my favorite drives
48:46
of all time. We were blasting through New York City, leaving New York City.
48:53
Travis is running the lights in the siren and we're blasting through,
48:58
you know, 31st Street heading for the tunnel in this 50 year old ambulance
49:04
with the lights going, people looking terribly confused.
49:07
We had the jackets on from the movie, the whole thing.
49:09
Oh, anyway, I'm privileged to know him.
49:13
I think anybody else who's ever met him or worked with him
49:16
knows the gratitude we have towards Travis Bell.
49:19
Yeah, the world is a better place because Travis Bell is in it.
49:23
Did you see the news blurb online today
49:27
about the Movie Car Museum in Colorado that's selling off its inventory?
49:32
I did. In fact, this is people were sending me that
49:36
starting a few days ago.
49:38
Yeah, I did. I did.
49:39
And I guess he's he's going to open up another museum somewhere else and do it
49:43
again. I don't know what the whole story was, but I saw some of his cars.
49:50
You know, most most film car museums are crap.
49:54
Yeah, you know, it's sometimes not even the right.
49:58
Like he's got a Ghostbusters thing.
50:00
That's not even the right vehicle.
50:02
It's not a Miller meteor.
50:05
It's not. It's not a 59 Cadillac.
50:07
It's not it's not, you know, but a few of them are pretty cool.
50:10
And I mean, if you just want it something cool that you want to drive around,
50:13
that's great. And like their reproductions and if you can get some good money
50:17
for them, that's fantastic.
50:19
You know, and I got to say, like even the.
50:23
The Barris, I think it was the Barris Museum in Tennessee,
50:27
whatever that little
50:30
tourist town is there.
50:31
It's got all this stuff in it.
50:33
They had this kind of crazy film car
50:37
or car museum there.
50:38
And we went in there and this is all Barris stuff.
50:40
So it's like the the coffin dragster from the monsters,
50:45
It's a really crappy.
50:47
I'm looking at it going, this isn't right.
50:49
And they've got a picture from the TV show behind it.
50:51
And you're like, well, this, this, this and this.
50:54
And they've got, you know, they've got a generally.
50:57
And you can tell that the wrong wheels are on it.
50:59
And if you're a geeks like us,
51:02
this place and a former film car guy owner, like it drives me up a wall
51:06
to most civilians, they love it.
51:09
You know, they, they don't know any better.
51:12
Yeah. But, but, oh, man, this place is driving me crazy.
51:15
I have no temptation to buy any of that stuff at all.
51:20
Have you ever been tempted to start another film car company?
51:26
You can only film car companies only work in New York or Los Angeles.
51:31
They don't work anymore.
51:33
You have to have a density of production.
51:35
I guess they might work in Georgia now, since production is really high there
51:40
or to it or maybe an effect, maybe Louisiana, maybe, but
51:46
in order to to to be able to pay for all the vehicles,
51:50
the maintenance, the upkeep and all the hassle, yeah,
51:53
you need to be ours every day.
51:55
Like in New York, we had jobs every day or two or three jobs every day.
51:59
And that paid the bills just fine.
52:01
But most cities, there's not enough production to do it.
52:04
Or they bring in their own teams.
52:05
Big movies will have their own transportation divisions.
52:08
Yeah. That will be vehicles in themselves.
52:13
So this is a question I've made you answer a bunch of times before.
52:19
So I will narrow the focus.
52:22
What's the dumbest thing you've done in a car in the last couple of years?
52:29
that's always such a hard question, because everything.
52:32
Well, because it's tough to narrow it down.
52:35
What is because I just do so many
52:38
questionable things with cars or buying cars.
52:41
Like, I guess one of those things is a purchase of a car
52:46
that I would say half people thought was a great idea
52:50
and half people thought was a very bad idea.
52:53
I bought a 1982 Aston Martin Lagonda.
53:00
Yes, it's on a container right now.
53:02
It should be here September 14th.
53:06
It was they have to ship the electrical manual separately.
53:12
So for people who don't know, it was the first production car
53:15
with a digital dash.
53:16
That's what you're making fun of.
53:17
And most of them failed.
53:19
They were cafe route, ray tube.
53:22
The early ones were cafe, ray tube, the later ones were LEDs.
53:26
And the eighties, seventies, really technology.
53:29
They spent a fortune creating these things like NASA level money
53:33
to create these dashboards.
53:35
And when they failed, nobody could fix them.
53:37
And that was always kind of the people made fun of the Lagonda.
53:40
And the Lagonda fell in price rapidly because of that.
53:43
It was one of the most expensive cars you could buy.
53:45
It was the ultra luxury sedan that anybody could touch
53:49
in the late seventies and eighties.
53:53
But so for years, the nineties, nobody could fix them.
53:56
Two thousands, nobody could fix them.
53:59
But come the last 15 years and how inexpensive electronics are
54:05
and how easy it is to program stuff
54:07
and how inexpensive LED stuff is,
54:10
there's guys making the complete retrofit kits for those things.
54:14
No kidding, because that's been the hurdle
54:17
on those cars for a long time.
54:21
So this car was the Geneva show car for Aston Martin.
54:27
And then in 19, in 2013, it was purchased
54:31
by the National Automobile Museum of France.
54:35
They restored it and they had the dash completely restored
54:40
before they put it on display.
54:44
So that's how I'm buying it.
54:46
Painted interior was done, the dash was done,
54:49
and then they put it in the museum.
54:50
So it was pickled and put in the museum.
54:51
So all I got to do is unpickle the car
54:54
and hopefully most of it will work.
54:56
If it doesn't, I've got plenty of resources to fix it.
55:00
either people think it's the ugliest car ever.
55:02
No, no, they're cool.
55:05
It's the same design language as the Lamborghini Countach.
55:10
It was a study in what they call the folded paper design.
55:14
Dick Endini, who did it?
55:17
Oh, I can't, I'm horrible.
55:18
I should really know that by now, but I don't.
55:22
It was a British guy who did it.
55:27
Just the way the Lamborghini is like a study in trapezoids.
55:29
This is kind of, and the wedge front and the pop up headlights.
55:34
And oh, I think it's the coolest thing.
55:36
And this thing, it's lime green.
55:37
So if you go to the Wikipedia page, the main photo is this car.
55:43
Is that the same one on car and driver too?
55:45
It has an 82 Aston Martin Lagonda on it.
55:48
That's if it's it's mint green.
55:57
Does that ring a bell in his 1982 Aston Martin Lagonda?
56:00
Oh, that's the guy who he's an interesting dude.
56:04
He's one of the guys who he's a tech dude, bought one, restored it from scratch,
56:09
knows nothing about cars, has taught him everything.
56:12
And he's one of the guys who created the new dash.
56:16
The interior is wild.
56:19
He just taught himself how to build all that stuff.
56:22
And he's one of the resources people have now for those cars.
56:25
So that's definitely one of the most questionable things I've done.
56:28
Another questionable thing I'm about to do is
56:34
next week, I'm going to go pick up a V16 Marine engine.
56:43
And it's 917 horsepower twin turbo diesel V16.
56:51
We think the engine weighs maybe 5,000 pounds for what?
56:59
Well, one of my Porsche guys, again, one of the old guys,
57:04
he runs Pacific Fuel Injection in San Francisco.
57:07
If you need a RSR fuel pump rebuilt or any of that stuff,
57:11
he has the original equipment.
57:14
He's turned, I think he's 80, 81 now.
57:17
He does have an apprentice.
57:19
His shop is filled with the craziest stuff.
57:22
And this thing was sitting under some boxes.
57:25
And I'm like, what the hell is that?
57:26
He goes, oh, yeah, that is old boat motor.
57:29
And he's like, do you want it?
57:34
Who wouldn't say yes to that?
57:39
I think what I'm going to do with it,
57:42
because this is quite popular now,
57:44
is to turn blocks, engine blocks into tables.
57:47
It's that's got a monster engine block.
57:51
That's got to be huge.
57:52
It's eight feet long and three and a half feet wide
57:59
You could turn that into a pool table.
58:02
I'm going to turn into it like a giant conference table.
58:04
I'm going to get it.
58:05
I'm going to get like an inch and a half glass top
58:07
for the whole thing.
58:12
You better have a good floor.
58:14
Not putting it in a car, obviously.
58:17
But it's like, yeah, it's it's so close.
58:21
I'll send you a picture of it.
58:25
It has like a Porsche at its individual heads.
58:29
So 16 individual heads on it.
58:32
That's interesting.
58:35
I've never really looked up diesel boat motors before,
58:39
but it turns 1800 RPM and puts out almost a thousand
58:46
And I guess the later versions were like two or three thousand horsepower.
58:49
This is one from the 70s.
58:50
But I guess the ones made in the 90s made double that or more.
58:53
Oh, God, I love it.
58:55
Are you sure you can't find something really stupid to put that in?
58:59
Why am I going to put a five thousand pound engine into something big?
59:05
I had the lemons question.
59:06
I'm like, oh, I just put it make it a mid engine marine diesel van.
59:16
It's only the stat.
59:17
Like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
59:19
You didn't finish the thought, though, John.
59:21
It has to have twin duly axles in back.
59:28
Well, I handled the weight.
59:30
Yeah, I'm putting it.
59:31
I'm not putting it in the strange rover.
59:33
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
59:35
No, you get an old Akana line and you stretch it and you put twin duly
59:42
axles under it and then you put it in the back.
59:46
I am a maniac, but I am not that.
59:50
I think I think that guy lives in like Wisconsin and like it's it's cold out
59:58
and he that's always doing in his shed for three winters is that and
00:02
swallowing lining coogles.
00:04
Oh, God, he's he's got he's always got a keg of line.
00:10
He's on tap and he's figuring out.
00:14
Oh, yeah, that'll go right in there powered by cheese.
00:19
Those are some of the more questions.
00:23
That's freaking awesome.
00:25
That's the fact that you're even bringing it home and you thought,
00:29
you know what, table table, you could put that under a snooker table.
00:35
That's monstrously large.
00:38
It's way too heavy to bring into my house.
00:41
So I'm going to literally have to like,
00:43
I think a business or like like one of those car clubhouse places.
00:50
Like I know Bruce Cannup is building a clubhouse storage place next to his place right now.
00:57
So I might pitch it to him.
00:58
I'm like, if you want a conference table, a V16 conference table for car condos.
01:05
Absolutely perfect.
01:07
Serving your buffet on a V16.
01:10
Do you get why I'm friends with him?
01:17
And we bounce really horrible ideas off of each other.
01:27
I like that more than I should.
01:30
We've been speaking with John Fakara of Fakara Classic.
01:33
John, please tell us where we can find you online and on social media.
01:39
You can find me on YouTube at the Fakara Classic YouTube channel.
01:44
Also on Instagram, Fakara Classic and FakaraClassic.com.
01:50
And for all of those, that's F-I-C-A-R-R-A Fakara.
01:55
Thanks always for being with us.
01:57
And also thanks for coming down and splitting the condo with us.
02:01
It was a lot of fun.
02:02
I explained the stain in the back seat of the truck to the people at Enterprise
02:06
and they didn't seem to care.
02:08
I even told them all about it.
02:11
It's all about the pie.
02:14
It was a little sticky.
02:16
That pie was sticky.
02:18
I'll tell you about that when we get down with this.
02:23
John, that was a lot of fun last week, man.
02:25
We should do that again next year.
02:26
And I appreciate your hospitality.
02:29
John, thank you so much.
02:30
I appreciate it, man.
02:33
So John and Scotty get down to Monterey.
02:40
We rent condos at this little place on the beach about a half hour north of Monterey.
02:46
I'm not going to tell you the name because then everybody will show up there next year.
02:51
Just want cheap lodging.
02:53
And we got condo and not everybody wants to go out to eat for every stinkin'
02:58
It gets really expensive doing that.
02:59
So we go to the grocery store and we buy a bunch of stuff.
03:02
Sandwich stuff and buy some beer.
03:08
And we're walking around in John's buddy, Scotty.
03:13
We're walking through the bakery and he picks up this pie.
03:18
I swear to God, Mark, the thing felt like it was made out of lead.
03:23
It's the heaviest, most dense pie you've ever had in your life.
03:28
And I'm walking by with a cart and Scotty goes,
03:32
feel this, one is the pie.
03:35
No, just pick it up.
03:36
I gotta pick it up.
03:38
It weighs two to three pounds easy.
03:42
It's a regular-sized pie.
03:44
Regular, but it's heavy.
03:48
And you look at it and it says apple pie and berry.
03:51
All right, whatever.
03:54
We buy it because, you know, why not?
03:57
You do it just to try it out.
03:59
And we had an F-150 for a rental.
04:05
And I'll tell you how much I dislike this F-150 later.
04:08
But we put it in the middle of the back seat just because,
04:13
you know, it's really dense.
04:14
You don't want to get it squished.
04:16
You don't want it to go anywhere.
04:18
We get back to the condo.
04:19
This thing has seeped fruit juice, like fruit filling juice
04:26
into a cloth back seat on this.
04:30
And it ain't coming out.
04:31
And I'm thinking, I rented this damn truck.
04:33
I'm going to have to explain this to somebody eventually.
04:36
And we drive the thing for the better part of a week.
04:39
And that's staying, it won't dry up.
04:43
It's not, it's, it is, it's, it's own fluid.
04:49
So we get back to turn the truck in
04:52
and I tell the people at the rental place,
04:54
hey, listen, there's a bit of a stain in the back seat.
04:57
It's not real big, but I don't know if we did it
05:01
or somebody else did it, but the damn thing is there.
05:04
The guy takes one look and he goes,
05:07
And just walks off.
05:10
Nobody, nobody charged me a nickel more.
05:12
Nobody gave me any grief about it.
05:13
Nobody asking any questions.
05:15
Nobody said, hey, what the hell is this?
05:18
None of that has turned the car in.
05:22
But this is the first time I've seen a rental car
05:27
that had almost 40,000 miles on it
05:31
and it hadn't turned an easy mile among them.
05:35
This truck has been hammered on
05:38
and there are scratches all over the bed inside and out.
05:42
Like somebody moved to king size bed
05:44
without taking the frame apart, that sort of thing.
05:47
And it was a hybrid, an F-150 hybrid,
05:52
so it's, you know, got part electric drive
05:57
and then the other parts.
05:58
I assume it was a V6.
05:59
It didn't make V8 sounds.
06:01
And really strange.
06:04
You'd get in the truck,
06:06
get in the truck, you put your seatbelt on
06:08
so it won't bong at you.
06:09
Stick the key in, turn it on.
06:12
It just says ready.
06:13
You've got, the dash in front of you is all,
06:19
it's not, they're not digital anymore.
06:21
It's all just electronic.
06:22
It's like an iPad in front of you.
06:24
And then there's a second bigger iPad
06:27
in the center of this dash stack.
06:30
There's no owner's manual in this sucker.
06:34
The owner's manual is in the dash.
06:39
You have to go through all the electronic crap
06:41
in the dash to try and figure out how in the hell
06:46
And there's a whole bunch of stuff on the truck
06:48
that I wanted to change.
06:49
Like the, you know, that thing where new cars
06:51
do auto off at stop lights,
06:54
which I still think is the stupidest thing
06:56
anybody's ever come up with.
06:59
You can't turn that off.
07:01
It switches between the hybrid electric motor
07:05
and the gas engine.
07:07
But what you would think would be a seamless transition
07:11
and the truck goes dunk and is a really sharp jerk.
07:15
So every time, you didn't want to be drinking anything
07:18
in this damn truck because you would wind up wearing it.
07:24
I've had a bunch of them.
07:26
I like Ford trucks.
07:28
I don't like these.
07:29
I'll quit buying them when, you know,
07:31
that I'll figure out what year it is.
07:33
They did that and just buy nothing
07:35
but trucks made before.
07:38
It's every bit of that.
07:40
It just was so not smooth.
07:44
It wasn't a smooth transition.
07:46
Now, I assume it's because some, you know,
07:48
it's been beaten on for the last couple of years
07:54
I've never seen a rental car with that many miles.
07:56
The only thing I've ever rented that had
07:58
that many miles on it was a U-Haul.
08:04
And I wanted to like it because
08:06
crew cab, you could stick five people on it.
08:09
You could throw all manner of garbage in the back and we did.
08:13
You can, you know, I figured getting,
08:16
I've rented a couple of pickups instead of cars
08:19
when I've been on trips before
08:20
because you get out of the airport,
08:22
you walk across and you get into your rental car
08:24
and you throw all your goddamn bags
08:26
right in the back of it
08:28
and you don't think about it at all.
08:30
You just throw all your stuff in the back
08:32
as long as it ain't raining, you're fine.
08:34
You know, as long as it's not raining
08:36
and people aren't climbing over the truck bed
08:38
it stoplights to steal your stuff.
08:40
But if you, you know, if you pack like Rhonda does,
08:44
good luck to them because they're going to,
08:46
they're going to wind up being fitted for a truss after word.
08:50
How about that, Hernia?
08:53
But anyway, I really wanted to like it because
08:56
and it was a four-wheel drive.
08:57
I didn't even ask for a four-wheel drive.
09:01
Pretty nice inside, just lots of, lots of screen.
09:10
And I'm still, you know, I'm kind of like John.
09:12
I still like analog stuff.
09:14
I still like gauges with needles that are analog
09:18
and, you know, do all that stuff.
09:19
But nope, nope, can't have that screw you.
09:24
Everything has to look like an iPad.
09:27
Yeah, it does make me kind of sad
09:30
because a lot of the older cars,
09:32
even though I whined a bitch about Sybil,
09:35
you know, there was one electrical thing
09:38
that was really odd and the rest of it is just like, okay.
09:40
And it's all mechanical or something doesn't work.
09:43
There's a reason for it.
09:44
And the rest is fire.
09:48
So, yeah, I can't even imagine working on modern cars
09:52
now plugging it into something and hoping that it guesses correctly.
09:56
Both the Corvettes, both the Impalas,
09:58
all the stuff that we, between the two of us,
10:00
hell, your XTERRA, it's fuel injected, but it's still...
10:06
It's still pretty basic.
10:07
It's a five speed four by four.
10:09
It's still, I mean, it's not an insult to say
10:12
that the thing is mildly agrarian.
10:14
It's easy to figure out.
10:15
You can work on it.
10:19
I couldn't even figure out how to shut stuff off on this truck.
10:23
Now, the one really good thing I will say for it,
10:28
it got incredible mileage.
10:32
Big, full-size F-150 crew cab, four-wheel drive,
10:36
21 miles a gallon for the week.
10:40
That is a surprise.
10:41
And we ran the AC plenty.
10:44
And yeah, it got really, really good mileage.
10:46
So, there's the upside to that.
10:48
The rest of it is Dave Kinney, who we talk to frequently.
10:55
And Dave gets a new F-150 every couple of years.
10:58
I saw him Thursday morning.
10:59
I was in that truck.
11:00
I said, hey, can you tell me how this works?
11:04
And he walks out to the truck like you're a moron.
11:06
I'll fault fix this thing right up.
11:08
25 minutes later, he's like, I don't know.
11:15
I said, I don't know.
11:16
What do I unhook the battery and hook it up again?
11:18
I don't understand.
11:21
I'll do that and it won't work at all.
11:23
So anyway, interesting stuff.
11:26
It was such a good week in Monterey.
11:29
This is the first time I've ever been to Car Week
11:31
that I haven't had an assignment.
11:32
Yeah, you went there just to see.
11:34
I didn't have a job that I was supposed to do.
11:38
And it was a lot of fun.
11:42
And all the stuff that I'd made that laundry list of
11:45
that I was going to do, did about a third of it.
11:49
We wound up goofing off.
11:50
We didn't even check it.
11:51
We ate a lot of seafood.
11:52
We looked at seals that were making a lot of noise
11:54
over on Fisherman's Wharf.
11:56
Rhonda's got a great picture of an otter eating off
11:59
its belly outside of one of these restaurants
12:01
because right on the ocean.
12:02
And it was really, really nice.
12:05
It was really cool.
12:06
The weather was fantastic.
12:08
We got to see a lot of friends.
12:10
Didn't quite make it around to everybody.
12:11
We just had a good time.
12:13
God, I needed a vacation.
12:16
First non-working vacation in six years.
12:18
That's a way to do it.
12:19
So really, really needed it.
12:22
I'll probably be all messed up by next week.
12:27
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Straight shooter, great communicator, honest mechanic,
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champion disco dancer.
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One of these descriptions is a flat-out lie.
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The rest accurately described Daryl Ossipic, owner of Ossipic Automotive.
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Yeah, we've been teasing him for a long time.
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Daryl has been a really good friend and a personal mechanic for me
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for longer than I care about.
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He's been working on my stuff forever.
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I've taken my vintage Bronco in there.
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I've taken my Corvettes in there.
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I even have had the Schadenfreude Express in there.
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You got him to work on that?
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He's worked on that 99 Mercedes S600 and done a really good job on it.
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Mark's even gone to Daryl for car repair.
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Yeah, that's 64 Dodge that I whined about.
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He was the one that got it running and moving after I bought it
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and it ended up not running and moving.
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It was a little different than the test drive.
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Don't get me wrong.
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It ran good for the test drive.
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Plus, he put the transmission in that I bought for that
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my 2000 Nissan XTERRA 4x4.
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Ossipic Automotive does maintenance and repair on foreign and domestic
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petrol-powered autos.
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He also works on some diesel stuff I've seen in there.
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If he can do it, he'll tell you.
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If he can't, he'll tell you.
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But I haven't found anything that he can't work on yet.
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The guy works on cars.
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He works on a giant offshore raceboat.
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He can do about anything.
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And he'll tell you up front what he's going to do,
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how we're going to approach the problem, what he thinks it might be.
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And if he can't do it, he'll tell you who can.
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He's an internal combustion whisperer who thinks running sucks for exercise,
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but he rules behind the wheel.
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And he's also got some fantastic taste in his own personal stuff.
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You would never guess at looking at him.
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He looks like a mild-mannered mechanic.
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He's got interesting stuff of his own.
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Ossipic Automotive doesn't have a website,
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so you'll have to look up the reviews.
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4.9 stars out of 5 on Google, 4.8 out of 5 on Yelp,
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called Daryl at 913-831-3613.
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What's that number?
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And you got to remember his motto,
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Ossipic Automotive, where they'll fix your car,
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no matter how much it costs.
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He's going to kill me.
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I promised him I wouldn't tell anybody he says that.
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Oh, and where is he?
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We know where to go to be killed.
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5920 Merriam Drive in Merriam, Kansas, 66203.