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Driven Radio Show #361: Ryan Williams of Car Curious

Driven Radio Show #361: Ryan Williams of Car Curious

Driven Radio Show Jul 11, 2026 89 min
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About this episode

Brett and Mark kick things off with sweaty studio talk, then dive into the chaos of heater-core replacements and the “island of misfit cars” at Darryl Ossipic’s shop in Merriam, Kansas. The conversation turns to Ryan Williams of Car Curious, a software engineer who rekindled his interest in cars as an offline hobby and built a visual, searchable podcast player/discovery platform. They discuss how he researches, what hooked him, and how software can make car audio easier to explore—while the hosts trade stories about rare finds and long-running projects.

Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Company

Ossipic Automotive

"Darryl Ossipic of Ossipic Automotive... He's got the daycare for broken toys."

The Kansas City repair shop where the hosts' project cars are being fixed. It doubles as an informal car museum worth visiting.

Company

Zip Corvette Parts

"So I ordered a heater core from Zip Parts. Zip Corvette Parts, I love them."

A mail-order company that sells replacement parts specifically for Corvettes. The host ordered the heater part from them that kicks off the episode's first story.

Term

firewall

"And he said that the angle that it goes through the firewall is a little odd and he was trying to put it in."

The firewall is the wall between the engine area and the inside of the car. Parts like heater lines often have to pass through it, so getting the angle right matters.

Term

heater core

"And so we're on third heater core, fourth, if you include the one that was in the car. ... You don't need a heater core. No, heater core, heater core."

The heater core is the part that makes your car’s cabin heat work. It uses hot coolant from the engine, and if it breaks you may not get heat (and sometimes you’ll notice coolant where it shouldn’t be).

Jaguar XJ8
Arpingstone (Public domain)
Car

Jaguar XJ8

"Just for the record is the 2000, 2001 Jaguar XJ8. I've seen it. See, that's that really pretty kind of silver blue."

The Jaguar XJ8 is a fancy Jaguar sedan. It’s known for having a strong V8 engine and a classic, comfortable “grand touring” feel.

Brand

Austin-Healey

"I want his Austin Healy. That that was one. Oh, well, yeah, I don't blame you."

Austin-Healey is a classic British sports car brand from the 1950s and 60s. Their small open-top two-seaters are prized by collectors because they're fun to drive and look great.

Car

Porsche 930

"but apparently he's got a Porsche 930 and a 65 vet coupe in his garage at home"

This is a Porsche 911 Turbo from the older era. It has a turbocharged engine and a very recognizable, classic look.

Car

1965 Chevrolet Corvette coupe

"...apparently he's got a Porsche 930 and a 65 vet coupe in his garage at home that haven't moved since..."

A very collectible mid-1960s Corvette. The hosts' mechanic supposedly has one parked in his garage that hasn't moved in decades.

Car

Ford GT40

"And he also has a really vicious GT 40 replica that pushes over 500 horse."

This is a copy of the famous Ford GT40 race car. It’s made to look like the original, and many replicas are built with modern parts.

Company

Car Curious

"Soon he built Car Curious, an automotive podcast player and discovery platform that makes his shows visual and searchable."

The website and app the guest built. While you listen to a car podcast, it shows photos and explanations of the cars being discussed, and lets you search for every show that mentioned a specific car.

BMW 330i ZHP (E46)
Ryan Williams / Car Curious
Car

BMW 330i ZHP (E46)

"It's a 330 I the ZHP. [782.6s] So it's a little bit like between a 330 and an M3. [786.6s] OK. In the in the E46 BMW world."

ZHP is a BMW package that adds performance-focused upgrades to a 330i. It’s meant to feel more like a sportier “driver’s” version, but it’s still not the same as a full M3.

Car

BMW M3

"...P. So it's a little bit like between a 330 and an M3. OK. In the in the E46 BMW world."

The BMW M3 is a sporty, higher-performance BMW version of the 3 Series. It’s made to feel quicker and handle more aggressively than the regular model. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as a reference point for performance in the E46-era BMW world.

Company

Cars & Bids

"And I got it got in on cars and dids. I wasn't planning... on buying that car."

A website where enthusiast cars are auctioned online, started by YouTuber Doug DeMuro. The guest bought his BMW there.

Term

chassis codes

"...all the mentions of like the different car models and the different code, the Chassis codes, the model codes, the car parts..."

Letter-and-number nicknames car fans use for specific generations of a model, like 'E46' for a certain era of BMW. They're confusing at first but you hear them constantly on car podcasts.

Concept

cash for clunkers

"Well, you know, if if you're old enough to remember cash for clunkers. [1003.4s] Yeah. And I think that was one that during"

“Cash for clunkers” was a U.S. program that gave people money to trade in an older, less efficient car for a newer one. The goal was cleaner air and better fuel economy.

Car

Ford Explorer

"When's the last time you saw like a first generation Ford Explorer? ... taking, you know, perfectly decent cars and then pouring goop into the oil."

The Ford Explorer is a popular SUV model from Ford. “First generation” means the earliest version of that SUV, from decades ago, and it’s rarer today because many were scrapped.

Car

Geo Tracker

"I've seen trackers fricking trackers getting some premium cash for them now."

A little open-top SUV from the early 1990s sold under GM's budget Geo brand. Like the Samurai, survivors are now worth real money.

Car

Suzuki Samurai

"Or that Suzuki. What was that little four or five? ... Well, it's the Samurai. ... the Suzuki Samurai."

The Suzuki Samurai is a small SUV from Suzuki that’s known for being tough and good off-road. The host is using it as an example of an older, inexpensive car you don’t see as often anymore.

Car

1991 Geo Storm

"Geo Storm I bought in 94. It was a 91 Geo Storm and it was 7200 dollars at the time."

Geo Storm was a small car sold by Geo (a GM brand) in the early 1990s. The speaker is saying they bought one used in 1994 and it had low miles for what they paid.

Car

Honda CRX

"Anyway, rolled up with shrink wrap around it and stuck in the passenger foot well and over the back of the 60 Corvette. [1199.6s] OK, Ryan, what's the smallest piece of crap car you've ever driven? [1208.1s] I bought a Honda CRX brand new."

The Honda CRX is a small Honda hatchback that a lot of car fans liked because it was light and fun to drive. The host is saying that many of them got abused or heavily modified, so finding one that’s still clean and original is hard.

Car

Chevrolet Chevette

"It's like a two door chivette."

A very basic small Chevrolet from the late 1970s, often used as shorthand for a cheap, no-frills car. The hosts say the guest's first car looked like one.

Car

Honda Civic

"... the storm? Is that the one I did by a 2001 Honda Civic? That was just a tin can piece of crap that I got..."

The Honda Civic is a small everyday car. It’s usually chosen because it’s practical and easy to live with. In the podcast, it’s brought up because the speaker is talking about their experience with a particular Civic.

Car

1984 Chevy Celebrity Wagon

"1984 Chevy Celebrity Wagon. Oh, wow. And that was right after Marissa was born."

This is a Chevrolet station wagon from 1984. Station wagons are basically family cars with extra cargo space, and the host is saying this one was especially roomy and easy to load.

Concept

shaggin' wagon

"If you were 17, you drop a piece of carpet back there and make it your shagging wagon."

A joke term from the 1970s for a van or station wagon with carpet in the back, implying it was used for more than hauling cargo.

Car

1974 Chevrolet Vega station wagon

"My brother did it with the 74 Vegas station wagon."

The station wagon version of a small 1970s Chevrolet. Mentioned only as a quick family joke.

Car

1985 Nissan Sentra

"Oh, and then it was the 85 Nissan Centra... it had like 10 more horsepower than the GLC."

The guest's second car, a basic small Nissan sedan from the mid-1980s. Slightly better than his first car, but still slow.

Topic

how Car Curious works

"Tell us about car curious. Tell us what it is, what it does, how do you do it?"

The segment where the guest explains step by step how his app listens to podcasts, figures out which cars are mentioned, finds photos of them, and shows them to you at the right moment.

Topic

AI transcription challenges

"And my original hypothesis was AI is great... Doesn't work like that. No."

The guest explains why computers struggle to correctly hear and identify car names in recorded speech, and what he built to work around it.

Car

Nissan 300ZX

"... another guy and we were talking about the Nissan 300Z. No, no, no, car curious."

The Nissan 300 ZX is a sports car made by Nissan. It’s a two-door coupe designed to be fun to drive. The podcast mentions it while talking about a Nissan sports car that people know.

Brand

To All the Cars I've Loved Before

"So I was talking to my friend, Doug, who runs to all out to all the cars I've loved before is another automotive podcast."

Another car podcast, where guests share stories about the cars from their lives. The guest is friends with its host.

Brand

Everyday Driver

"And so your show and his show and there was like every day driver were like the three that were talking about the 300Z."

A popular podcast where two friends discuss which cars are best to actually own and drive daily.

Term

digital dash

"Yeah, he said it, you know, it had the digital dash, [2397.4s] so it had the the good light show and all that stuff going on. [2400.9s] So really, really cool."

A "digital dash" is a dashboard where the speedometer and gauges are shown on electronic displays instead of physical needles. In 1980s cars like the Nissan 300ZX, it looked like a video game and felt very high-tech for the time.

Concept

cars and coffee

"...now that I have an interest in cars, like I'm going to like cars and coffee and going to car shows..."

Casual weekend morning gatherings where people bring their cars to a parking lot, drink coffee, and chat. It's the easiest way to meet other car people.

Company

Vintage Chevrolet Club of America

"...they'd been friends for 30 years from, you know, the vintage Chevrolet Club of America."

A club for people who own and love old Chevrolets. The guest mentions meeting lifelong friends who bonded through it.

Topic

podcast monetization debate

"So now you're doing all this work. How do you monetize it? I mean, that's the million dollar question."

A long discussion about how the guest's platform — and podcasts in general — can make money without annoying listeners with irrelevant ads.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette ZR1

"...whether it's like a, you know, a ZR1 Corvette or a Porsche 911..."

The fastest, most expensive version of the Chevrolet Corvette. The guest mentions it as the kind of dream car people research on his platform.

Company

Bring a Trailer

"It's why, like, you know, bring your trailer and cars and bids or, you know, they're entertainment platforms as much as auction platforms."

The most popular website for auctioning collector cars online. Many people browse it daily just for fun, like a car magazine.

Topic

most-mentioned cars on Car Curious

"So here's a question. What do you think is your most mentioned car?"

The segment where the guest reveals which cars get talked about most across all the car podcasts his platform tracks.

Car

Ford Mustang

"Yeah, site wide. Um, so number one is drumroll Mustang number two. Oh, that makes sense."

The Ford Mustang is one of the most famous American cars ever made, in production since 1964. The hosts are looking at Car Curious's own statistics, and the Mustang turns out to be the single most talked-about car across all the shows on the platform.

Car

Porsche 911

"And then Portion 9-11. Number three... Well, 9-11 has been around since 63."

Porsche's most famous sports car, with its engine in the back, made in similar form for over 60 years. It's the third most-discussed car on the guest's platform.

Car

Chrysler Cordoba

"...galitarian taste. You got to come slumming with a Cordova. What's wrong with you?"

The Cordoba was a big, cushy two-door Chrysler from the 1970s, famous mostly for its TV commercials where actor Ricardo Montalbán praised its "fine Corinthian leather" seats. The hosts are teasing each other about it as a cheap-and-cheerful classic.

Car

Dodge Magnum

"I'm fine. I'm sure a Dodge Magnum is showing up on it somewhere. Yeah."

The Dodge Magnum is a name Dodge has used on two very different cars: a big two-door from the late 1970s and a muscular station wagon from the mid-2000s. Here it comes up while the hosts joke about classic Chrysler-family cars, so they probably mean the older one.

Term

Corinthian leather

"...the big advertising hook on it was fine Corinthian leather."

A fancy-sounding name Chrysler made up in the 1970s to describe the seats in one of its cars. It didn't mean anything special, but the TV ads made it unforgettable.

Car

Ford F150

"Okay. And then, yeah, Dodge Charger and Ford F-150. Yeah. And run back to top fives."

The Ford F-150 is a very popular full-size pickup truck. It’s known for being able to tow and haul, and it comes in lots of different versions.

Car

Dodge Charger

"Okay. And then, yeah, Dodge Charger and Ford F-150. Yeah. And run back to top fives."

The Dodge Charger is a famous American car known for strong engines and a sporty, muscle-car reputation. People often talk about it when they’re discussing performance versions.

Brand

Mopar

"And run back to top fives. Mopar, number four. Well, it's funny enough with the chargers of going back to the AI."

Mopar is a nickname people use for Chrysler’s performance and parts world—especially for Dodge and other related brands. It’s basically shorthand for “the official/serious performance stuff.”

Company

Classic.com

"...many people kind of doing that already, whether it's classic.com and there's some."

A website that collects sale prices of classic cars so you can see what they're really worth.

Company

Sports Car Market

"There's a bunch in your city. Yeah, I work for them. Yeah, sports car market."

A magazine that reports on classic car auctions and what cars sell for. The host writes for them.

Company

Hagerty

"One of them is HammerBid and another one is Hagerty. They track a lot of stuff almost in real time."

A company best known for insuring classic cars that also publishes widely-used price guides for collector vehicles.

Company

Gateway Classic Cars

"You've got gateway classic cars. You've got, oh my God, so many classic car sellers."

A big company with showrooms around the country that sells classic cars on behalf of their owners.

Company

The MB Market

"You've got cars and bids and bring a trailer and the MB market."

A website that auctions only Mercedes-Benz cars, for fans of that specific brand.

Brand

Cars Yeah

"Cars, yeah, I remember. Yeah. Cars, yeah. Yeah. Mark Green... 2,500 episodes."

A car podcast that ran for thousands of episodes, interviewing people from every corner of the car world.

Topic

audio vs. video podcasting

"But what do you think about audio versus video for podcast platforms? And should we build a YouTube channel?"

The hosts ask whether they should put their show on YouTube, and the guest explains the tradeoffs between audio-only and video podcasts.

Car

1935 Auburn Boattail Speedster

"...if you can look on that app and see a 19, you know, 35 Botel Auburn show up on there, it's like, Oh, my God."

A gorgeous, rare American sports car from the 1930s with a rear end shaped like a boat's hull. Used as an example of an obscure car the app could show you a photo of.

Term

blow by

"Yeah, how to tow it. How to get rid of that blow by. So much to learn, right?"

“Blow-by” is combustion gases leaking past the piston rings into the crankcase. It’s a sign of engine wear or ring sealing issues, and it can lead to oil contamination and reduced engine efficiency.

Term

Bondo

"I still got that body putty left over from the Dodge. I have not broke open my Bondo."

Bondo is a type of car body filler used to patch dents and smooth out damaged metal. They’re saying they still have some left from a previous project.

Car

1978 Mazda GLC

"So with, with the GLC, you know, there was maybe once upon a time in high school where somebody's..."

The GLC was a small, inexpensive Mazda hatchback from around 1977 to 1985. The name literally stood for "Great Little Car." It was basic transportation — the kind of car a lot of people had in high school.

Part

cassette adapter

"...it was the portable CD player, like with the really like chocolate cassette adapter."

A fake cassette tape with a cable (or Bluetooth) that lets you play your phone or CD player through an old car's tape deck.

Term

stock head unit

"In the Mercedes, I found a company called Becker Auto Sound that added Bluetooth to the stock head [4805.0s] unit."

The stock head unit is the original factory stereo in the car. They’re saying Bluetooth was added to the factory stereo instead of swapping it out.

Company

Becker Auto Sound

"In the Mercedes, I found a company called Becker Auto Sound that added Bluetooth to the stock head [4805.0s] unit."

Becker Auto Sound is a company that upgrades car stereos. In this case, they helped add Bluetooth to the original Mercedes stereo so you can play music from your phone.

Car

Mercedes-Benz S600 (W140)

"You're talking the big Mercedes, right? Yeah, yeah. The 600, okay."

The host's V12 Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedan from the 1990s (internally called the W140). He describes how good music sounds inside it and how he added Bluetooth without replacing the original stereo.

Brand

Plymouth

"...so I looked up Plymouth and it came up with 41 results."

An old American car brand from the Chrysler family that was shut down in 2001. The hosts search for it on the guest's website live on air.

Car

Porsche Cayenne

"Craggers. Cayenne. Two for Craggers."

The Porsche Cayenne is an SUV made by Porsche — sporty to drive but with family-car space. The hosts mention it while trying out the Car Curious app's search, which finds their own earlier episodes that talked about the Cayenne.

Brand

Cragar

"Ryan, you need to add some more key phrases for your searches. Craggers."

A famous brand of shiny chrome wheels people put on muscle cars and hot rods in the 1970s. Saying a car 'has Cragars' instantly dates its style.

Term

land yacht

"Land barge. Oh, land yacht. Land yacht, too. Land yacht, absolutely."

A joking name for the enormous, floaty American cars of the 1960s and 70s — so big and smooth they feel like driving a boat.

Car

1958 Ford Thunderbird

"[5109.7s] I wonder if you'd trade it for a Harley? [5112.7s] No, for a T-Bird. [5114.7s] Well, tell him the T-Bird's got potential."

“T-Bird” is short for the Ford Thunderbird, an older Ford model people like for its classic style. The host is basically saying it could be a good project, but it might need some work to be great.

Car

1973 Chevrolet Vega

"You need to look up 1973 Chevrolet Vega in Pueblo, Colorado. Listed two years ago."

This is a 1973 Chevrolet Vega, a compact car from the early 1970s. People talk about it today because it’s a recognizable old model with a strong “love it or hate it” reputation, and it can be really interesting when it’s restored or customized.

Term

T-tops

"...he put the tea tops in that thing, and that's not a car that ever came with tea tops."

Two glass or metal roof panels you can lift out of a car, leaving a bar down the middle. They were hugely popular on sporty cars in the 1970s and 80s.

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