Driven Radio Show #329: K. Mikael Wallin and Holly Ansman

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Howdy.

Is that piece of junk working?

Yeah.

Actually, there's like color and things are moving and sound things are popping up.

Oh, cool.

Well, we're coming to you from the broken Driven Radio Studios, where you know...

It's the carburetor.

That's the problem with the computer.

Yeah.

Well, you know, in World War II, when pilots had troubles with their planes, they always

blamed it on gremlins.

Oh, that's right.

They said they had gremlins.

In the last two months, this studio has been plagued with gremlins.

It has.

What does not kill you just makes you angrier.

Or as my four-year-old sister would have called it, gremlins.

Gremlins.

Absolutely.

Because she couldn't say gremlins right for whatever reason.

How's the car search going?

What have you found?

Anything cool?

I'm still kind of...

I'm staying in my zone of mid-50s Plymouths and late-50s, early-to-mid-60s Thunderbirds.

Because they're the ones that fit and they're the ones that I think look cool.

The one down in Branson went away, that's all fine, because like I said, I'm not

in a hurry.

Well, you can't be surprised about that.

That was a great car.

That was a nice car.

But I sent you that, because you and your dad are getting, you know, how I've infected

you with things.

Uh-huh.

You and your dad have infected you.

I now have a full-fledged account on Bring a Trailer.

Oh, did you?

I can bid like a big boy now, and it was really stupid, because I've already found

a Thunderbird, and I sent you a link to it earlier that looks really interesting.

I was already kind of talking to the guy.

He's in Kansas City.

Where?

Didn't really say the car is located in Kansas City, and he's out of town right now.

Well, if he says KC Moe, then you know he's not North Kansas City, he's down here someplace.

I'd asked him, and you know, we're communicating via email, but I'd asked him, hey, would it

be okay if I came to look at this before the auction ends, and he's like, well,

yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I'm out of town, and it won't be

back till Friday.

That's weird.

Friday ends at Friday at like 1 p.m., 1.30 p.m.

Oh, you'd have to be on his porch.

Yeah.

So, and work just wouldn't really appreciate that.

They wouldn't understand the importance, so we'll see.

Excuse me, guys.

I'm going to bag Friday.

There's a car I've got to go see.

I am going to talk with the back of her.

There were a couple of things that I'd noticed, one of them, because he has

videos of it driving and running, et cetera, and in one of them, when he was turned

in the corner and went to speed up, it had a little hesitation in it.

So he's already, I mentioned that in an email, and he's like, well, yeah,

the the car could use just a little bit of it.

And I'm like, OK, OK, and remember when you got your car.

Hello, Jesus.

And I went, yeah, hang on, hang on.

We had this conversation about it needs to be driven.

Yeah, it needs to be driven and needs to have gas run through it.

It probably, excuse me, it could probably stand with a couple of fresh

tanks run through it, and that helps loosen up all the garbage that's

in it and get it through.

Plus, if you will recall on your on your dodge, the gas tank.

Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

The gas tank was a haven for everything bad.

And it just got worse.

It was just putting tomato soup through the lines and into the car.

Well, yeah.

And you wore out a lot of filters before you find a bunch of them.

Caven said, this is not working.

We're going to change some things.

But my guess is this is a nice older restoration.

Probably been sitting a bit.

Yeah, probably hasn't been driven a ton.

And my my further guess is it could stand to be run.

It could stand to be run.

It's and it's three days out and there's no reserve.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you didn't see that when I sent it to you.

There's no reserve on it.

I didn't catch that at all.

It's going to sell.

So I am keeping my eye on that.

Has a nice rumble to it.

The miles are particularly high.

Did he have the other two wheel covers that were not on the car?

Does he have a full set?

I don't believe so.

Doesn't matter.

Craggers are going on that sucker faster.

You're not wrong.

Alrighty, there's a wow.

That I didn't see the no reserve thing.

Yeah. Well, one other thing.

Remember what I said about shooting your shot?

Yeah.

And you and I are probably at the age

where if you're not going to chew through your bucket list real quick,

you're not going to get it done.

Yeah, there's not enough teeth left.

Yeah, it's it's it's time to get this stuff done.

And I'm starting to look at my car bucket list

and pick out the ones that I think I I really got to have.

Yeah.

Before I'm gone and the ones that I think, yeah,

I can probably do without, like, I'm not going to buy a lotus spree

as as cool as I thought they were.

Yeah.

But I'm looking at Chevelle's that are going to be at

Meekum, Kansas.

I saw that one.

Yeah, the one at Meekum.

That is a beautiful example.

Yeah.

Well, that's what I need is a Chevelle with a 454.

And I guess what I'm going to pull apart your knees.

Stomping on the gas.

That's right, my God.

I'm going to make that sucker sound like one of my Harley's.

Now, was it a four speed or?

Yeah. Oh, my God.

It's an LS5, so it's a 454 360 horse car.

But an LS5 can become an LS6 pretty quick.

And I know the parts you got to swap to do it.

Oh, wow.

And how fun is that?

Well, it's going to be a full tear down because you got it.

And the LS6, if I remember correctly,

I think they were like 11 and a quarter to one compression.

They were really high.

But they were very conservatively rated at 450 horse.

People who knew them better said 500 was closer to three.

You got the executive airport, what, three miles from your house.

Just go over there and get gassed up, get your fuel there. Nice.

Yeah.

Alrighty, a couple of quick items I wanted to touch on real fast.

Or it's.

Yeah, it's kind of one thing split in two.

This week is my 10th anniversary of working for Sports Car

Market Magazine.

And at the end of this month, it'll be my fifth anniversary

working for GM authority, and that's really flown by.

So I owe thank yous to Sports Car Market

publisher Keith Martin, my editor-in-chief over there, Jeff Sabatini.

The owner of GM authority is a guy named Alex Luft.

And my editor, who puts up with me every day.

God bless him.

Yeah, Mike.

Mike deserves to be sainted.

And he's got a French last name that I'm probably going to butcher.

It's Mike DeLaurier.

Mike puts up with me and all of my crap.

And he and I have really long, weird conversations that don't

have anything to do with cars.

He and I seem to have the same propensity to get off track

and just kind of follow our noses and wherever it goes, it goes.

And then one of us will come back to.

And by the way, when you're done with that Chevelle,

that sort of crap.

So gentlemen, for all of you that put up with me

and have bothered to employ me and continue to encourage me,

I thank you so very much.

And Mike, Mike puts up with my butt every day.

So he probably deserves the brunt of my thanks.

But everybody I mentioned has has let me do my dream job.

And not a lot of people get to do that.

And so I'm really, really grateful to everybody.

Thank you very much.

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Our special guests this week, we brought two.

Two.

And they're together on the same couch for God's sake.

That's fantastic.

K. Michael Wallin, founder of Custom Mics,

and Holly Ansman, also known as Hot Rod Holly.

Mike attended trade schools to hone his skills

and taking things apart and putting them back together.

Eventually serving in the Swedish Army

and the Swedish Air Force as an assistant repair group chief.

In 1984, he decided to relocate to the United States

and immediately immersed himself

in Southern California car culture.

Microstores and customizes cars and bikes

and recaptures the events and captures the events

and people of the custom culture.

Holly Ansman, who I was harassing just this weekend,

also known as Hot Rod Holly is a long time car

enthusiast who models for fun has worked

as a spokesperson for automotive shops

and is actively volunteering on the board

of the San Diego Association of Car Clubs Council.

Holly is a longtime classic vehicle owner.

She's got a really cool Chevy pickup named Bubba.

For over 30 years, she's been an active volunteer.

And since 2011, she's held her own charity event,

the Hot Rod Holly's Christmas Morning Cruise.

Always warm and friendly.

Holly welcomes everyone with open arms and a smile.

Her slogan is hunks and kisses.

Mike and Holly, welcome back to Driven Radio.

Well, thanks for having us.

It's been a while since we had you on.

Holly hasn't talked with us since December of last year.

And Mike, it was two years in October.

It's been a while.

Neither of you sit still very much.

So how have you been and what have you been up to?

Oh, my God, there's so much stuff

that's happened in the last couple of years and so much travel,

so many cool events, so many cool people

and so many cool lifestyle changes.

And, you know, living in this culture

is an amazing journey if you open your mind to it.

Well, as as you mentioned, right before we got started,

there's a lot less of you than there used to be, Mike.

Yeah, I've been on a journey to get to a more healthier place.

Yeah. Well, it looks good on you.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, we hit one ninety nine the other day.

So fantastic. That's a great goal.

Holly, you always look great.

I was going to say, I might be going in the opposite direction.

But I try not you always look fantastic.

You two, how did you two meet?

How did you come together?

Well, we actually met at a car show, of course, and that was back in.

It was either 2012 or maybe 2011 when I first started

coming out more in the car scene and it was at the Grand National Roadster show.

I believe I was cleaning my truck and

Michael had come up and said hello.

I'm trying to think.

I mean, that's pretty much.

Yeah, I was shooting your truck and you were dancing around, you know,

being in my way.

A truck and, of course, I stand up and start to pose.

You know, a smile, which is kind of funny,

because I don't regularly shoot people.

I shoot cars, you know. Yeah.

And then we just, you know, I've been friends since then.

It's just been more recently doing a lot more adventures together.

And that started a well, I mean,

things periodically, you know, are you going up here?

What time are you leaving?

Maybe we'd travel up or whatever to an event if it was far away.

But so he was in Sweden

and that was three years ago.

I just he just said, I want to go.

And he's like, oh, sure, any time

because he had invited other guests out.

And I actually was going to go out three years ago

and it just was such short notice.

It just didn't seem like it was going to work out.

But then I had made plans for the next year

and just so happens.

My friend, Robin Malar of her father was Pete Malar.

Drag cartoons. Mm hmm.

You're familiar with. OK.

She was going out and there was a couple of friends

at a winter national winter,

winter nationals, winter finals that were that are from Sweden.

And so they had invited me back to go to northern Sweden,

which was the P.T. P.T. Dragway.

Am I saying that? P.T. O.

P.T. OK.

He can pronounce it.

So the P.T. O. Dragway.

And that was, I guess,

in Lulio, is that Lulia?

Yeah, Lulio. Yeah.

In the northern part of Sweden.

You said it's pretty far north.

So that's where I started my adventures a couple of years ago.

And then after that, I.

I took a flight and a train and hitched a ride

with another buddy in Sweden and met up with Michael

and finished the rest of my journey.

And from there, we figured out we're compatible traveling

partners.

And we don't get on too much of each other's nerves.

And so, yeah, we've done some other adventures together.

Well, following really good.

I mean, you know, we have a lot of mutual interest

and a lot of mutual audiences, and it's a parallel that works.

It does. Yeah.

And I enjoyed the heck out of it.

And, you know, she's open eyes to different shows

and different places to go and ways of looking at things.

And just it broadens my horizons in ways

that I didn't imagine, you know, which is kind of really neat,

especially in our culture, you know, following you both on social media,

it looks like you've hit a bunch of stuff, both you in the US and abroad.

And, Mike, you had a heck of a list.

Can you talk about some of the events you've attended?

Oh, if I can remember all of them, but.

We've been so fortunate.

I mean, actually, I'm going to read you a quote that came in today

about living life, if you don't mind.

No, go right ahead.

Yeah, it's by Tida Swinton.

I think I got to put my glasses on here.

But it's OK, that gets all of us.

Yeah. If you didn't do it at 40, then do it at 60.

The only thing that matters is that you do it.

My grandmother, who lived to be 97, always told me

that life only gets better with time.

And now, question mark, I finally understand what you've been.

Age is a funny thing.

We live in a world obsessed with timelines, marry by this said,

succeed by that age, a retire by another, miss a milestone.

Society tells you that the moment is gone forever.

But here's the truth.

That's a lie.

And if your 20s were full of doubts, make your 40s wild.

If your 40s were consumed by responsibility, dance through your 60s.

If you didn't burn brightly back then, ignite now.

There is no deadline for joy, no expiration date on reinvention.

Not too late for dreams.

So wear the bold colors, book the ticket, learn the language, start over.

Because late, it's never better than ever.

Tida Swinton.

What if you've act like a 14 year old for your entire life?

Does it mention that?

Well, I am 12 going on for I've been told multiple times.

But, you know, it's not long ago.

This thing is that I finally figured out that I don't want to have a corporate

jobs. I don't want to follow the structure.

I want to live. Yes.

And traveling and experiencing all the different things that we've been

able to go do and and the shows like Power Meet in Sweden.

We're OK. Think about it this way.

We go to Power Meet in Sweden.

There's 11.

1959 Cadillac Eldorado be rich convertibles in the same place.

Wow. Like six years ago, there was 15 of them lined up.

That is less.

That is a little bit less than one percent of the total production

from 1959. Yeah, lined up in Sweden.

I give you an idea of the what they love over there.

They love the big, bulky, long, extra overloaded, you know, anything.

You know, see, I told you I should have sold Vlad over there.

Well, that's, you know, every car that I liked ended up being bought

and then shipped, you know, back when they were cheap right before

the, you know, the top dropped out.

Yeah, I had so many that I was like, oh, is this still available?

No, I sold it to a guy and they're taking it to Norway.

I'm kind of wondering if my 61 and Palo Hot Rod wound up abroad.

It's not unusual.

But, you know, the kicker with the Swedish

culture, so to say, is that during the gas crisis, there was dealers in Sweden

that that shorted shiploads in the early seventies.

They literally bought shiploads of the big giant American cars

that nobody everybody wanted.

They must thank to or a VW or something like that because they couldn't buy gas.

So a 59 caddy or a 67 old sir Buick limited, they were worth 50 cents.

And they literally took shiploads home to Sweden.

Kids, he's saying ship SHIP isn't penguin.

They shorted ships to carry the vehicles like the manufacturers do.

And that went on for like five, six years before the tax loophole

and all the things were going on kind of slowed it down a little bit.

But there was hundreds of thousands of cars that went over to Sweden that way.

Well, I know that Mark and I, Mark's got a passion for the fifties and sixties

tanks. Yeah, he just loves the big stuff.

If I can play badminton on the rear deck, I'm so happy.

Yeah. Mark, what what your T-bird were you looking at?

I've I'm looking strongly at fifty eight to sixty.

I also like the bullet nose, sixty one to sixty three.

Now, sixty four to sixty six, I can do because they still look pretty cool.

Seriously, ah, there's something about Forty bird.

Nice. My first car was in my dream car, but that's what I could afford at the time.

I know the feel. I got a fifty.

My first car was in nineteen fifty five Plymouth.

And the first time I laid eyes on it, it had a bunch of green

primer and stuff on it because it had been in a guy's barn and blah, blah, blah.

And my parents really wanted me to own that thing, because it was all made out of

metal, right? My mom had rolled in a forty eight Kaiser and thrown out the back

windshield survived, but they they rolled the car back over and drove it back into town.

This was in Wyoming back in back in, you know, nineteen

decade or two. But they they wanted me to be in that big metal car.

So I got that Plymouth.

Well, it wasn't real thrilled with it, but it was kind of cool.

And it was the only one that looked like that, right?

And then, of course, I sold it and blah, blah, blah, life moved on.

And now I want to back sabbatical, you know, my teeth ache.

Except except. OK, I did find it.

He found that car.

I found the car.

However, the the owner who had also found it, because it had been like a fifteen

year lap since it had been in their family, and that was a family that bought

it from us. They did a bunch of stuff to it.

And God bless them.

You know, they saw their own vision for it and did it.

And I'm like, that's a hot mess.

Yeah, you can never go back.

That just that smells like a motel six in a bad part of town.

It just it just doesn't.

It ain't right.

So let's see.

Let go of that one.

But I do have a fifty six Plymouth.

I bought one, too, which is when I learned how badly I I weld.

I don't weld. I burn holes, but I can't weld for shit.

So that one I sold for parts.

I've got it'll be kind of a toss up between that one that's on

bring a trailer and a fifty six that I got located about three.

Now, that that one that is north.

But thank you for asking.

The one that's north of here, I think is gorgeous.

And you really ought to strongly consider driving up there and having a look at it.

Yeah, I bet.

If this thing doesn't work out this this Friday, then Saturday may make a trip.

But cool.

If you if you like those teamers, especially the fifty eight to sixty,

look up on Facebook, Wildbird in Sweden is a it's a really wild T-bird

that a custom way I called Gaumann built in the sixties as a show car.

And my friend owned it for like thirty,

forty years and was doing rust repair and all that fix.

And then they finally sold it back to the family

and they just restored it and they were doing the circuit last year.

But it's oh, my God.

It's a wild one.

Is that no, that's a different one.

I thought that was I thought that was it for a second.

It's not Game and Bo Game and Sandberg.

Is that? Yeah. Oh, my God.

That is it. Oh, yeah. How that makes the batmobile in the sixties

and finally restored, you know, to its full glory here and shown.

I think it started like late last year.

They brought it out and it's been everywhere.

Oh, my God, that is beautiful and insane.

I love it. Yes, I love it.

OK, now I got to look.

Sorry, where are the headlights, though?

It's at that front end just makes it look like it's kind of,

you know, giving that Cheshire cat thing to a little batmobile on that.

I know they just a little bit. They went completely nuts.

Then you've got the weird rear cowl that is kind of reminiscent.

Was it not the Cobra?

Oh, what the hell was it?

It was a Dodge Viper.

OK, all righty.

Little bit of that. Yeah.

And then the two bubbles for the quote unquote windshields.

Oh, my God, that's fantastic.

And I love the nose.

I love the OK.

And I honestly got all shut up.

I love the hoods on 58 to 60.

I will actually 58 to what?

All the way up to 66 because they, they, you know, at first,

they had that kind of smaller little grill slash hood scoop.

And then it just kept getting wider and wider, like Valerie Burton.

Ellie's nose did.

And it's just I love it.

Valerie Burton Ernie.

Yeah, it I love the way they look.

That's cool.

But that also gives you the insight in a little bit.

That was in the 60s.

So there was some crazy customizers in Sweden in the 50s and 60s, too.

You know, the guy.

Yeah, the guy that built it was prolific.

He was like a various version in Sweden.

But then my friend Torg knew actually was working on the sword.

He's done like five or six fifty eight to sixty T birds

over the last few decades.

And and, you know, I've sold or helped them move over

like a whole handful of them, you know, to create.

This one back to normal or back to its glory day, so to say.

Don't you guys have kind of isn't there like a premium tax

on the larger, larger engine cars?

Yeah, there's this whole complicated structure that

that was why a lot of it now they do the older week.

I think I was a pre pre fifty eight or something like that.

It's actually tax free now to bring in if it's all original, you know.

So there's there's a lot of weird stuff with the Swedish.

They're going to get their money one way or another.

Yeah, don't get caught speeding over there.

No, that's not cheap either.

I think there's a gas.

So, you know, yeah, you probably don't want to Sweden,

where they figure your your speeding

fine predicated upon your income?

No, I don't think so.

OK, I know I haven't gotten the speed to get it either.

But they have the speedy cameras that are permanently mounted

ever so often with a warning sign that it's coming up, you know.

That is so smart.

I know that one of the Scandinavian countries

they base your speeding fine on your income.

And I think that's Norway, but I'm not sure it may be.

It may be.

But wow, man, that's where you don't want to get caught.

No. Yeah, they're going to make it hurt, you know.

All right.

So what is the shenanigan tour?

Well, remember that quote I wrote?

I just want to go do all the things that I didn't do

because I was a responsible party.

You know, the kids grew up, I had them house.

I did the corporate job, all this other stuff.

And it's like, now it's time for some shenanigans.

It's time to go explore and live, see things.

You know, I've been very fortunate in my life to be able to travel a lot.

I've been to a lot of countries in Europe and Scandinavia

and I've been to many, many states in the United States.

And I've seen a lot of things, but I mean, it's like an insatiable.

I can't get over. I just want more, you know, sure.

And that's kind of why this aligns up so much.

She's crazy about roadside attractions and all that type of stuff.

And, you know, she'll make a stop at 100 times instead of 50.

And some of the stuff is great.

Some of the stuff I didn't even imagine that I would want to see.

But then you go see, it's like, holy crap, this was pretty cool.

You know, and it's just new experiences.

And that's kind of the shenanigans.

It's like, let's go do it.

All right, Holly, what's on your shenanigan list?

Well, my shenanigan list, oh, gosh, I don't know.

Any cheesy roadside attraction or anything, anything that somebody says,

hey, let's go do I'm I'm willing to take the opportunity

if I have the time and the finances to go and explore.

Basically, I had a blast while I was over there.

It was really there was a lot of things I never, you know, I mean,

I I wouldn't have thought to go to Sweden.

I don't think for any of my like travel destinations

and then just to go to a bunch of car shows there.

And we did do a lot of other sightseeing, but it was a lot of fun.

Yeah, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't on my list of of stops vacations.

You know, it was interesting and it was nice.

It was nice. It was nice to be able to stay back there as long as I was able

to having friends back there.

So it made it a lot easier and then chipping in and then traveling

in his 60, 60, 60.

Fifty nine. Fifty nine.

I bought a 50 year flat car.

Oh, cool. I don't think a 60 or 60 would.

And so, yeah, there was a lot of adventures

that I I probably would not have set out to do.

And because there was a lot of camping as well.

And I don't know, it was fun.

I'm looking forward to, I mean, you know, a lot of the things I've done here

were a lot of local, you know, U.S. road trips. Sure.

And like you said, the cheesy roadside attractions.

Oh, we're going to get into some of those.

I see you nodding your head.

You know, the big ball of twine or the stupid whatever it is, you know.

Hey, that largest ball of twines in Kansas, we know where that is.

And that's that. Yeah.

But I plan on it.

It's a destination.

It's on my bucket list.

I am so I'm so sad that you've missed out

if you didn't get to see it earlier on I 70, just before you got to Colorado.

There used to be the world's largest prairie dog.

Oh, yeah. I took my kids there to the to that museum.

And my eldest is now 27, about to be 28.

And my youngest is 25.

And when they were dink, we used to take him out camping

and on our way back, I'm like, we got to stop.

So we stopped to see the world's largest prairie dog.

Isn't it concrete?

It was a big concrete, but ugly prairie dog.

And they had the world's saddest zoo.

It was animals that were just like, ah, this soft.

I've had enough.

I'm over it. Go see this six legged cow.

And the cows like seriously, I'd rather be steak.

But it was the cutest thing was the brain damaged

prairie dog that would come up out of the little hole.

And you could buy like dog food and feed the little prairie dogs at the dug holes

all throughout this thing.

And this one, you would hold it up and it would take it

and it would start munching on it, but it couldn't keep its balance.

And it would just fall backwards.

So you put your little hand back there and it would fall back into your hand

and just be munching away.

And so it happened, you're like, oh, God, you're the sweetest thing.

And the kids were both like, oh, so we actually we looked at the poor

sad animals for five minutes, took a pick at the big stupid prairie dog

and then played with that thing for 30 minutes.

And then when we went back in, you could buy anything with

rattleskin or rattlesnake skin on it.

They had hats and belts and this and that and a big old box full of you guessed it.

Rattlesnakes. You. Yeah.

That was, you know, so I got to hear an actual rattlesnake rattle, which is kind of cool.

No, but that was.

I don't even like to hear them when they're not on the snake.

Yeah. No, that's a that's a non-starter.

It did cost me an extra five bucks, but I hate to get off topic here.

Yeah, like I just did. Sorry.

I'm very chatty tonight.

I lived.

My parents had an acreage when I was a teenager

and I used to cut the grass there.

And one time I was cutting the grass

down towards the creek, which is about an eighth of a mile from the house.

And I was on a riding lawnmower of all things because I was trying to cut it

like a golf course once I wanted to see if I could.

And down toward the creek, I ran over a nest of copperheads.

Yeah. And so I was on this lawnmower chasing them around, trying to kill them.

And that didn't quite line up with all the other lines that I'd mowed so far.

And it looked like I had kind of a spaghetti pattern going.

And I can imagine your dad.

What? Well, yes, yes, exactly.

He came our driveway was a quarter of a mile long

and he comes driving up the driveway in his truck and he just stops.

And my dad wasn't the most patient person in the world.

Sorry, Pop, if you're listening.

And he rolls down his window.

He looked at me and I find, you know, it took me a little while,

but I realized he was sitting there and so I shut the mower off.

He says, what the hell are you doing?

And a hole in snakes.

I said, I look like I ran over a nest of copperheads

and I was trying to kill him.

He says, well, you better get back to it.

Rolls up the window and drives off. That was it.

So yeah, my my fabulous snake story.

I don't have it every day.

Yeah, don't don't care for snakes.

And that was a geez, man.

That's as close as I've ever gotten to, you know,

having one in my lap like this.

Sorry, you missed out on it, too.

It was yeah, it was a great adventure.

OK, so much like back to your snake story really quick, though,

I was going to, but I chickened out

because the snake had been handled so much.

But when I was doing the filming of the clown motel,

one of the guys is a handler.

He he brings in the I don't know what you call him,

but all the animals and he had a rattlesnake there

that had been de-venomed.

However, it could show bite.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like the bite itself.

And I was going to have really wanted to hold it for a picture

because I was in my great little costume and stuff.

But I had figured it had been handled so much

that it might be best not to take that.

Yeah, how about it doesn't matter if it's dead.

I'm not touching that.

Do the letters things out, I would be better off.

Do the letters NFW mean anything to you?

Now, they had in the freezer that had

a little stack of rattlesnakes, too.

Yeah, I didn't want to touch those either.

Oh, oh, great, a snake sickle.

What a what a fabulous.

Yeah, no, I'm going to stick.

Yeah, not touching it, not putting it in my mouth.

Screw every bit of that noise.

Now, that's a place to go, though.

That's Nelson ghost town.

No, no.

Even the freezer behind the counter.

Yeah. No.

No, yes. No, not going just

just officially changed my mind not stopping their screw that.

OK, I'm going to throw one more story

and it will be super fast.

I write books and sell them.

If you're going to talk about snakes, I'm leaving.

I was at a convention, dead snake.

It I was at a kid, a don't care.

I it was actually it was.

There's a festival, it was the Testicle Festival in Olay, Missouri.

I've been to that.

Yeah.

What is that?

Tell me about that.

There's a certain time of the season when the young male turkeys decide to be not so

male.

It's something guys would probably ask you to do anyway.

And they don't actually decide it.

It's basically trimming season.

And so you've got all these turkey razors with a whole bunch of leftover testicles.

So what do they do?

They sell it and people defry them.

Oh.

There's a festival, the Testicle Festival in Olien, Missouri, near Lake of the Ozarks.

And a couple of, two or three times I went out there and surprisingly enough for these

horror books that I write, I sold a metric shit ton of them.

These people were, I mean, if they didn't want, they didn't want to look at testicles

all day.

So they read my books.

Sounds like my wife.

There was a guy in a tent next to me and he was just an old fella, you know, the

big, long hippie hair and the whole thing talking like this.

And he had a big outdoor fryer, gas fryer, and he was frying rattlesnake.

And you could get fried rattlesnake, which by the way, there's not a lot of meat on rattlesnake.

And if it's fried for a very long time, it's a little chewy.

But at least try it and go, well, that was, so that happened.

Of the 9,000 things, I'm never putting in my mouth.

That's real close to the top of the list.

Well, you know, the testicles at least was, I was able to wash them down with.

So, you know, the testicles and the snake are on a neck and neck.

Good times.

I won't say anything.

They dropped off a zoom.

What happened?

Oh, sorry.

Just got that, Holly.

Oh, you just got it.

Okay.

Sorry.

Wait, what?

My jacket says the humor.

Thank you for catching on.

I missed it.

I'm so, I'm so sicked out by this whole conversation.

Get us back on track.

Oh yeah, about cars.

The best part is the recording so you can listen to it later.

I'm not cutting a slice out of that one.

That's all state.

You know, as this show has evolved.

One of the things that's happened is our, our more fun guess.

We wind up getting into conversations that don't have Jack to do the interview with

that I wrote.

This reminds me of an interview we did a couple of months ago where we wound up

talking about vintage men's cologne.

Yeah.

I didn't have.

Hi karate.

Yeah, my dad wore English leather.

That kind of crap.

Smells like missionary style sex.

And that's all.

It smells like celibacy all day long.

You know what?

It built a nation.

Unfreaking believable.

Anyway.

Sweet Jesus El Camino.

Can we talk about something else for the love of Christ?

So thank you.

This conversation is hanging on tight.

Mike, what makes car culture universal?

It's not the testicles.

Is it?

So the car culture thing.

The interesting thing is I have a lot of friends that are in different types

of work or, or Nietzsche's or something to say.

And, and the car culture is really the glue.

And it doesn't really matter if it's a low rider or a hot rider or a

custom.

And we rashes out and out about this, that and the other.

But I've had a couple of friends that are, have been in a, like the

modeling industry and all that stuff.

And they're all talk about how much backstab and all this other stuff

going on and all the other industries that you really don't

see in the car culture.

And, you know, I know we mentioned a pound custom culture

with our borders and maybe I'm running ahead a little bit, but

it ties together with this.

One of the things we, I started doing that or adding that to a

lot of things is that it doesn't matter if you're here in Sweden

or Norway or Japan or Germany.

It doesn't even matter that we can't talk to each other many

times, but we can go, oh, look at that or those tires or ribs

or, you know what I mean?

Go to PowerMate, for example, where they can be anywhere

from like 10 to 25,000 cars there.

They're coming from all over Europe and England and all

that type of stuff.

And we're all getting together.

There are just 50 different languages and 50 different styles

and, but we're all there.

If you look at some of the videos like from A-bombers in

Udvala, which is a, you know, kind of like trog type of thing

with a pre-59 and then you're going to have that, you know,

you got to have the dress and all, you know, be all

correct and all that.

But they come from all over.

We met some of the greatest people from England and

Germany and Switzerland and Norway, Finland and all that

type of stuff.

And it didn't matter.

The glue is the same.

Yeah.

And even if you look at it beyond that, you look at the

Rick Shaw's down in Asia or the canal boats with

the high-performance diesel engines and the long prop

shafts and all that stuff.

They're racing down the canals.

They all think and feel the same.

And they just have, using the best they can with

what they have.

Gear heads are the same everywhere.

Yeah.

You know, so Pound Custom Culture with our borders was

kind of one of those things.

It's open this stuff up because it doesn't matter where

you are.

You know, if you're into this, we're going to talk.

Yeah.

You know, and we're going to enjoy each other and

we get, you know, and that's the thing, the

tolerance and competition in the car culture.

I mean, I'm not saying there isn't backstabbing

and other things going on in our industry, but

there's so much less in the car culture than

you see in many other industries.

Well, you know, it's one of the things that made

me a real true believer about the car world is

it transcends language and it transcends

cultures and nationalities and borders and

everything else.

Man, if you're a gear head and it doesn't

even have to be about cars.

It can be about anything.

The culture.

Yeah.

It's easy to understand back and forth.

All right.

What's the weirdest thing to eat in Sweden since

we've been talking about all the crap here?

Soostramming.

Oh, God.

If you type in soostramming challenged on

YouTube, I don't even know how to.

There's millions of videos about people trying

to eat.

Okay.

Imagine this.

Fermented shark.

No.

It is a herring.

Oh, herring.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

But think about it this way.

When you weren't on a ship in the whatever

15, 1600 and you need to take food with you.

You had a barrel full of fish and salted

water and that's what you ate until you

landed somewhere else where you could get

more food.

Sure.

And it didn't, you know, so people ate

that stuff.

So over the years that has turned into a

delicatessen.

And when you buy the cans, which is

usually about this high and about this

round.

I mean, preferred ones are the ones that

have swollen.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

And apparently doesn't it have like a god

awful, amazing ammonia smell to it?

It has an aroma that is specific to

it.

It has its own unique aroma.

Yes.

So when you see those videos and they

go and they open it and that thing

spreads.

That's what usually with most people are

on the floor throwing up.

It does make me laugh so hard.

Watching people trying to do it,

especially, you know, hardcore guy guys

were like, whoa, whoa.

No, no.

I would try it once because, you know,

it is edible.

Yes, it's not.

It's, you know, and anything in

moderation.

I'm sure if you ate a lot of it, it

would do serious damage.

But I would give it a shot.

But oof, oof.

But the key with it is that most of

them that eat it are chasing it with

aqua beet and beer.

Do I ask what the first thing is?

It is an alcohol product.

Sure.

Which is much better.

How?

You don't care anymore.

So tastes like a combination of dill

and caraway with other botanical

notes like anise, citrus and

fennel.

It's made from fermented potato,

grain mash, usually served in small glasses,

aqua beet.

Yeah, with a side of kerosene.

I thought I was hungry when we started

this show, but this is pretty well

out of the world.

Some people catch it on fire, but if

you catch yourself on fire and then

drink it, it's even better.

But the reality is just that there's

a ton of that stuff that comes from

the olden days of food preservation

that then turns into finicky food,

you know, or traditions.

Does it burn out your taste buds?

I have never, ever.

Yeah, well, I've never eaten a

snake or a testicle.

Because somebody packaged it in

markets, it doesn't mean you should

eat it.

Just because you can, doesn't it?

The thing I was thinking about,

and because I'm a Midwesterner, of

course, I got that entire region

confused, is called, I believe,

hacarl.

Iceland, made from Greenland

shark.

The fresh meat is toxic to

humans.

Due to high concentrations of

urea.

Oh!

So it must be cured to make edible.

Oh!

You bury the shark meat in a shallow pit

with gravel and stones for 6

to 12 weeks to firm it.

Well, that makes sense.

Hot-niggity.

Mmm!

This is going to be a great show.

This is going to be the best ever.

Brad is already like,

I don't like this.

You know, I quit drinking like

two years ago.

But it sure seems like a good night

tonight.

I'm 30 feet from a bar.

Oh, well, you know, hey,

what are you going to do?

I still have some whiskey left.

Brad, it's been two years, my friend.

I had to.

I'm six years sober, so.

Oh, well, good.

Mark is five and a half.

Yup.

Awesome.

It's straight up to you, Totlin.

Good for both of you.

So, back to the car.

Oh, yeah, car stuff.

Driven radio, I forgot.

Oh, yeah.

Well, you know,

fermented shark buried in a hole.

Yeah, we throw him off the cliff there.

Yeah.

So, we filled the car with dead fish.

Jesus Christ.

So, we talked about

what makes car culture universal.

It doesn't matter where you go.

What do you think some of the primary

differences are between the U.S.

and Scandinavian car culture?

Okay, that's a good one.

One of the biggest thing, I think,

which didn't really hit me until I got here in

84 and absorb what's going on really.

In the United States,

it's very segmented.

Like low riders and low riders,

they have a special style.

Customs is custom, especially in tradition.

Well, they have a special style and muscle cars

and a lot of type of stuff.

But in Sweden, what ended up happening a lot

was that somebody would come over here

and they go to 10 shows during a month

or maybe 20 shows and they go to a low-ride show.

They go to a car, a muscle car show.

They go to all the different niches

and then they go home and build a car

with a little of all of them in it.

Oh, my.

And I'm like,

it's not my preference,

but that happened more than what you realize.

It'll be a really nice custom with low-rider wheels on it

because they thought they were cool.

That is...

Then you have...

It's a whole new style in itself.

Yeah.

It just evolved that way.

I mean, you think about each individual.

It's like, well, that's cool in that car

and that's cool in that car.

And then they put it together the way they like it.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

No, there isn't.

I mean, it's your car.

Build it the way you want it.

Yeah.

And I mean, the other culture you have there,

the young groups are doing what they call

where they just

destroy them, essentially.

They just ruin them.

The rock, more rock than it is,

more dense they have and all that stuff.

They might be perfectly good drivable cars,

but then they

ride around with 8 or 10 people in it

and they have a board

across that can hold all the beer

because in Sweden you can drink in a car

as long as you have a sober driver.

You can actually fill the car up with alcohol

as long as the driver is sober.

That is so 1978.

Impalas are very popular,

the 60s Impalas

and they, you know, I mean,

they truly destroy them.

Which is, you know, not what I like,

but I get it too.

And then they pack it full, like I said,

the 6, 8, 7, 8 people

and then a 5,000 amp stereo system

and they drive around with the doors open

and they ask hanging out or sitting on top of it

and they cruise through the towns

and that's one of those segments

that's different there

and here.

It's extreme.

Just a little.

So, tell us a bit.

The other thing is that

the restoration

craze, so to say,

because of the winter months

they locked the cars up

for 6, 7 months.

Usually, October, November

they'll find a place

that's warm and not moist

and put it in there

and then you don't take it out until May,

late April or early May

and you get bored so you go work on it

and before you know it,

you've gone in there every night and then the cars restored

and I mean their restoration

standard is higher than some

restoration shops here.

Even the individuals,

they'll paint the floor pans better than they do

on the car here, you know.

And so the consequence of that

is like a lot of like,

there's over

900, almost 1,000

1959 Cadillacs

and 1960 Cadillacs,

two doors and convertibles

registered in Sweden.

And many of those have been sold

back now to the United States

in 100-point restoration

because the quality is so high.

That's just one example.

There's a pile of Buick

limitations, for example, you know,

in the late 50s.

Yeah, and

you know, so

their restoration is

part of the language, they're saying they're retentive.

They just go so far

beyond that what most people do

because they have the time, they have the space

and they just go at it.

We're going to worry about language now.

After testicles,

after talking

after talking about cow nuts for

20 minutes, we're going to worry about language now.

Well,

I could see why they like

the cars, well,

for the obvious reasons, but also

like I'm looking right now at the most popular

cars in Sweden are like the Tesla Model Y

and several Volvos

and a Volkswagen. So I'm sure

those old American

massive, you know,

buildings on wheels

really stand out. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they do. I'm curious and this is not something

we talked about earlier. This is a little

it's not too far off

topic, but

I just did

an appraisal

on a Saab 900

turbo convertible

here and you don't

see very many Saabs

here anymore

since Saab became an orphan company

and then was shuttered. Do you see

lots more in Sweden?

Do you see

900s and 9000s running around?

Well, that's a Saab story, isn't it?

Uh-huh.

I had to do it.

I had to do it. Thank you, folks. I'll be here all week.

Don't forget to tip your waitresses.

There are

I think there's actually more of them

here than there. Wow.

Because of the rust factor.

You know, they were used as commuter cars

and they salt the roads in Sweden and

you know, there's a lot of moisture

and they evaporate.

But, you know, there's people saving them there too.

I just they shipped a lot

of their production to the United States and beyond.

So I probably have an easier time

finding them here than there.

Wow. That's interesting.

I'm a little surprised to hear that.

Yeah. Okay.

Holly. Yes.

You're a legitimate movie star now.

Yeah. What?

Tell us about being in a movie.

What was that like?

It was lots of fun.

The opportunity arose and

as I've gotten older,

I've decided, like I said,

I've taken a lot of opportunities.

I thought, oh, what the heck? Why not give it a try?

And so the opportunity arose for

a low-budget

horror movie called Clown Motel.

Three Ways

to Help. Mark, this is going to be

right up your alley.

Clown Motel Three Way. Got it.

Basically

if you see the outfits

I'm wearing during it, you might just

think that's what it's about.

Mark, it's not right to be dirty to our guests.

Okay.

Google images. Got it.

Oh, I was going to say,

I just text you a video

with the snake. I'm not in the clown outfit there,

but I just text you a video

with one of the snakes I was handling.

Is that what you sent me? I'm not opening

that now.

I know. I thought I was

going to wait for your expression

to see if you were going to open it.

Clown Motel,

it's been a fun adventure.

I'm actually going out

January to Las Vegas

to Days of the Dead

Horror Convention

and then out to Tonopal where Clown Motel

actually is. And you know what?

Okay, so how this actually started is my love of roadside attractions

and

cheesy fun places to visit and stop

was

one of them in Tonopal, Nevada.

There's a lot of other history there

and some old

hotels there.

Were you casting this?

Yes.

But I was actually attracted to

the Clown Motel, the cheesy low budget

supposedly haunted

motel

next to a cemetery.

So anyway, that's how

I ended up finding the Clown Motel movie

and was interested in it

and ended up being in it.

Um, yeah.

So I actually, we just had the premiere

I invited Michael E.

Oh, so it's out? Cool.

We can watch this.

No, there's still fun.

There's still editing.

Okay, okay.

The issues, I think.

Well, wait a second.

We got to mention though.

Yeah.

It was her silver screen

debut in Hollywood

or a horror Hollywood silver screen debut

in Beverly Hills at the Fine Arts Theater.

Cool.

You know, she was even on, what do you call that?

Marquis, you want to call her? I have time to smell her handy.

So I'm sending you a picture of me standing

in front of the picture, this other one you can open,

of me standing in front of the picture

and if you zoom in, you'll see a red and white stripe

and a scary clown.

That is me on the Marquis.

Cool.

Very cool.

Beverly Hills.

Fine Arts Theater in Beverly Hills.

That's my moment of fame.

Okay, if it's a funding thing,

do they have a GoFundMe page?

Is there someplace we can go and contribute?

You know what?

I don't know about that particularly.

I mean, I know that he was selling spots

in different, you know, different,

right now, I think it's

boiling down to the editing and stuff,

but basically he had been selling spots

of it if he wanted to be a producer,

you know,

an investor.

When the hell else am I going to be a producer on a movie?

Hell yes, I'll do that.

I'm going to get you in touch with,

oh my god, I'm running a blank now.

You just, you know.

Joseph Kelly.

Okay, yes.

Yes.

I can probably talk Mark into it too.

He's a horror author.

That'd be perfect for Mark.

I think so.

I'm looking stuff up right now.

They've got some trailers out.

Some gal's head is in a ball talking and

there's cowboys.

Let me tell you, behind that ball holding,

that ball, I was also props.

I've been a special effects assistant.

I was behind her holding

that ball up, ducked down behind

because it was heavy on her,

it was heavy on her shoulders.

And they're all practical

effects, aren't they?

Absolutely.

Nice, or impractical.

I don't know which character

or what you're looking at.

If you see a character of a

kind of a sexy, vampy

clown in a

red or red or pink and white,

it might look red and white striped shirt

and black cut-off shorts

and boots and a black

wig.

That is me.

Or if you see

a clown character, another one I'm wearing

black with a shiny pink

harness.

This is a long trailer,

but there we go.

Sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy,

sexy.

Where's the scary part?

That's a lot of sexy.

As clown Vixens would do

to you.

That is so fun.

I'm looking forward to it.

Of course, I'll be promoting more

when it actually hits

DVD.

I don't expect it to be

in theaters.

It might have

a nice limited release

at smaller niche theaters.

We've got a place, Armour,

here in Kansas City.

What is it? Armour Kansas City Theater?

Armourdale.

It's just wonderful.

I've been up there selling books

and enjoying for several years

usually happens

in February or March

a horror movie festival

here in town.

Oh, nice.

It's fantastic.

I got to see a number of shows,

the first ones, and hear directors

talk and this and that.

Find out if he's got a GoFundMe page

or something like that.

In the

meantime, if you

probably look up Clown Motel 1,

I think there's a couple of different

Clown Motels, but make sure it's by Joseph Kelly

and you could watch number one. Number two,

I don't

like on, what is it,

the channels? Like a streaming thing.

If I didn't see Clown Motel 1

and 2, will I understand

Clown Motel 3?

No.

You need to buy

all the DVDs. You need to buy them

all.

I don't think honestly

I'm not sure it really would matter.

This is not word of the three rings.

Well, after you said

Clown Motel 3 way, the three rings

could have a hold of it.

Jesus.

Well, this is, again,

this is going completely off the rails so far

we've covered eating snakes,

eating cow parts

and having a three

way at the Clown Motel. Oh my lord.

Coincidentally,

the Clown Motel, which the guy

had brought that roadside attraction,

that motel

back up to

decent standards. I mean, it's still a funky

old motel.

Great place for a road trip, but

I guess back in the 80s, I think

they were doing movies about three ways.

Oh.

So, if I didn't see

the first or second movie, am I?

That has nothing to do

with this set of movies.

But the Clown Motel itself

had not the actual

Hong Kong indeed.

Best of luck.

It is in Nevada, after all, you know.

Yeah.

Jesus, this has gone south.

So what is Roy's Motel and Cafe

and what makes it special?

Roy's Motel and Cafe

is another one of my roadside stops.

It's on Route 66. It's in Amboy, California

and

oh gosh, I don't know what year.

I wish I had looked that up.

I'm not quite sure what year

it had actually opened, but

whatever

most stuff did along

Route 66 when it first

was built.

So anyway, Roy's Motel

like I said, it's on Route 66

in Amboy, California. Down the road

from it was the,

you had asked about the Roadrunner,

the Roadrunner Sign Lighting

was another establishment

on the 66

and I think

I believe it was

maybe like a campground.

Yeah, it was like a campground, a restaurant

and sort of thing. Something like that.

So yeah, so Roy's Motel

last year

and my friend

Kenny reached out to me

and asked if I'd helped spread the word about it

and so we all kind of got together and spread the word about

Roy's Motel

having it's an inaugural car show

and I'm going to tell you

so I asked and I was like, hey, you want to go on a road trip?

I had to drive my truck out there

and you and

because you were going to work the SWAT meet that weekend

and basically we just

we thought, oh no one's, you know, it's going to be a little

car show, not a lot of people, but we're going to show

show our support.

We woke up and looked out there

because it was camping across the way.

It was packed.

How many cars?

400 cars.

In the middle of this, I just boom.

So I think the closest town

to it is

Ludlow

which does have

a motel itself. I think it's

got maybe like nine grooms

and it's really weird and peculiar.

Are you

familiar with Route 66

stops?

I know you know the 66, but are you familiar with

the stops along the way?

Okay.

Well, and you know, a lot of those are run down

and nothing's really left of them

or what is, you know

and Roy's

is functional now.

It's an operating hotel and cafe.

There is a store there and they do sell

gas. The gas is more expensive

but they also have to pay more to have it

shipped in and

we're out there, we try and support.

Is it anything like stopping at Furnace

Springs where it's almost double?

I'm not sure where Furnace Springs is

but it's not cheap

but it's one of the only gas

engines for quite a while.

And they have sodas

and snacks and

Route 66 stuff and

they're working on the hotel

building up the hotel and making it

functioning one of these things but

the first time they were lighting up the signs

and all that type of stuff.

There's been a lot of movies, commercials

music videos shot out there.

So cool.

Yeah, I can't think of any.

But there has been

and some known one.

So basically it's just

I should have polished up on my information

on that before

speaking with you.

Let's ask you something you might be a little bit more

familiar with off the top of your head.

What are some of the California events

you run or participate in

or attend?

And the list I've got here is

Crafty Cates Burger Run

GNRS

You've got one here, Dr. George

the Pomona Swap Meat.

Can you talk about some of those?

Yeah, I can.

Well, first off, I'll do them kind of in order

is Moon Eyes

annual Christmas show.

And that's, you know, Moon Eyes

corporate company.

They're having their

what they call it their Christmas party

and it's a big car show.

So

I don't know if it's pre-72

but a big car show

they have music, you know

concert drag racing.

It wasn't Irwindale, but since Irwindale closed

they actually moved it to Pomona.

So

luckily we still have some place

close enough

in the same area to have it.

So that's an amazing event.

I highly recommend

that one. That one I try to make every year.

And

then in

the end of January

to the beginning of Pomona

is of course a Grand National Roadster

show. And that one

I always help out

with the charity auction and

the last few years I've been helping out

with the award ceremony

and

So when you help out with the auction

are you dressed like a haunted clown?

You know, I maybe should do that this year.

Now

actually it makes it fun. My friend

Yahida, her husband is Abraham Lang

and he does

striping there too. So her and I

are your vannas.

So we like to wear vana dresses.

Get yourself pretty

or wear something cute and then just

march back and forth basically

with the auction items to show them off

and hopefully the people that are bidding

bait them by putting it in their face

to get them to bid more.

So that might have. I'm a good sales person.

The Grand National

is also another great place and a great example

of the culture and how it's coming together

because a lot of the reason that it's

there is because there's a lot of volunteers

that are helping making that work.

Yeah, yeah, I volunteer up until

this will be my last year

I've done it for like

seven or eight years now I think

we've been doing the ropes and stanchions

for

all of the buildings

and you know and

we were actually at

Gappan Motorsports the other day where they put on an event

for all the volunteers and stuff too

as a thank you

but those are the things that make things

happen and it's the car clubs that the people

they all come great and I have

four or five people usually every year that come

from overseas just to

help out with that and

be part of what we do. We used to have a

vendor booth too but

that's one of their things, their motivation

to come you know. So

when you're walking around

at Grand National Roadster

show

I know you're looking at the

work that's been done

and judging

what you know the cars that are there

but are you ever getting ideas are you picking up

things that you might want to try

on a new build or a new

custom? Every time

but it's also overwhelming

I mean you think about it

it's usually somewhere in the six to

eight hundred cars inside

and then Saturday and Sunday there's six to

eight hundred cars outside too. Wow

and it's like I think it's

eight buildings if I were to

but I think it's like seven or eight buildings

total and then there's cars parked

in between all the buildings

so I usually go through

since we're part of the Stanchion crew and I

film that stuff I go through every

building probably eight or ten times at least

but what ends up happening

is like the first time you go oh look at that

but by the time you shot it and walked through it

and done all the stanchions it becomes a blur

but it is a fantastic

place

for meeting people

that you only kind of see at that show

and interact with them

the country yeah people out of the country

this is the one time of the year that you

see it all together and they come from

all over the world

to experience this event

it's the same with Penn East

West Coast Fast and Cruiser National which is the

45th annual this year too

up in Santa Maria

Memorial Day weekend

it's focused on customs

and it's not as big as that but it's one of those

other places where I meet other people

in the culture from all over the world

that are completely dedicated

well and that's something else

that we didn't really discuss about

the car culture

and part of

one of the best things I found

especially working for

Sportscar Market

is all the people I meet

it's all the connections you make

and all the really cool people you meet

you know there's interesting people

and everybody's got a different story

and it's fun to listen to them

and talk about how they got to where they are

and what they do and everything else

so you know

part of this journey for me

you know when I was

a 14-15 year old I'm getting goosebumps right now

I'm laying in my bed in Sweden

with magazines

and posters and all that type of stuff

and I remember

Steve Stanford for example

you know he made drawings

renderings I was just like amazed

you know

and for the last two swap meets

I filmed professionally for Pomona

swap meets so we have a set up there

with four of the double

wide booth and I put the RV there

and I have all my friends come in with their crap

authentic experience that I can film from

but Steve Stanford has been my booth

for the last two Pomonas

and he's my friend

and a lot of the customizers

and stuff that have come and gone

and many that are still here are still my friend

I mean Keith Dean, Dick Dean's son

is a regular

you know

John Saltzman

with the Atomatron

all that stuff they all come and hang out

every now and then I have a booth full of customs

and next one I'm going to have a booth full of

COEs

and streamliners and weird stuff

and it's

for me

coming from Sweden and coming to here

and living this culture in this way

is mind boggling to me

and I mean we talked about it earlier today

if I died today I'm happy

I've done more stuff than most people will do

in five lifetimes

and I have friends that people only

have the same of having

and that's the other thing

that the glue

you know

and they all welcome me

and when you go to Grand National

and you get to talk to everybody

and you can go how do you do that

or how did you come up with that idea

you know all of those conversations

happen naturally

they just evolve as you walk around and see

and shoot pictures and

and Myers has started his ideas

but you'll take that idea

well if I took that and I did this to it

it would look like this instead

and then it evolves that way

Holly we kind of skipped over this

but we talked about it

last time you were on

real quickly for the uninitiated

describe who Bubba is

give us a quick thumbnail

of Bubba

it's actually Lil Bubba

Lil Bubba is my

1956 Chevy pickup

I have owned for

like 27 years I believe

now

and

and I wasn't even looking for another

truck I had just sold my little 63

and my second 64 T-Bird

so

I was like

I was

carless basically and then I had like an 80

Cadillac or something like that

at the time and I sold all my cars

and I was like oh crap

I was having the hardest time finding something

and you know the days of the auto traders

you're blacking fingers and trying to take

other words and you know

please tell me describe

I'm driving from San Diego to LA

please be straightforward with me

and you know you get up there

and definitely not what was described

yeah don't be like the minister who lied to Mark

when he drove all the way to Arkansas

to see what was that

it was a 1965 Mercury Monterey

with the breezeway window in the back

and

you know the price was

outrageously good because this was pre-COVID

and he said that

I'll get the oil change

and I'll get this topped off

and this topped off and it'll be ready to go

because it was on the ground underneath it

it'll be ready to go and I get down there

and I'm like this oil looks kind of

thick and kind of low and he's like oh yeah

I just didn't have time to get to it

and I'm like I called you last

nice to double-check on this

and really so I test drove it anyway

and it was kind of funny because

my son was with me because he was going to drive my vehicle back

and I'd go around a corner

in this little tiny parking lot and it's dying

every time it's going around the corner

I'm like I'm not driving this on the Ozark Hills

for the next six hours

thank you know uh

thanks preacher he's down in Texas somewhere

dancing with snakes

a good example of driving

a long way to be lied to

and

Holly the reason I asked is

you know Mike's talking about

all the ideas he gets for doing stuff

and the people he meets

you have more pictures

from more events and more people

everybody wants to take a picture

with you and

it's pretty obvious why

but it's a nice smile

yeah she's got a fantastic smile

and I'm wondering

do you ever get ideas of stuff

you want to do to Lil Bubba

or I know you've got

is it a Firebird or Camaro?

you've got a Camaro don't you?

I have a 1968 Camaro convertible

we have not really bonded yet

and at one point

wasn't there an El Camino in the mix too?

at one point

wasn't there an El Camino in the mix too?

I had two El Caminos

a 72 was my first El Camino

that I got the same time

bought Lil Bubba

basically I had nothing and it was really hard for me to find

something and I had just sold

my 63 pickup which was one of the

vehicles that I sold

and I was not looking for another truck

I was looking for

a car for seats

and blah blah blah

anyway and I ended up with

my 56 pickup Lil Bubba

and a 72 El Camino

so I ended up with two trucks anyway

but then

my second El Camino that I had

which is actually one I really

do miss

it was a total rust bucket

but it was a 71 El Camino

it was a true 454 car

and

you know

I named him

Muscles

yeah I know

but that car I probably did more work on

than any of my cars meaning

body work and mechanics now

my love is greater than my knowledge

I worked on

with my mechanics

so I've worked on all my vehicles with my mechanics

yeah I've seen those pictures

but my 71 El Camino

is the one that I did the most work on

and so I think that's why I had a bond

with him

plus I mean like I said it was just

you know the rust

was a major issue and

my trucks kind of been my trademark

otherwise

my bond was probably strongest

with that car

well I can't say that

I can't say that over my truck

so yeah I do

I do get ideas for my

for Lil Bubba

but however I really want to redo

him right now

obviously if I quit doing all these road trips

maybe my funds would be better right

maybe

but I do want to redo him

and paint and stuff it's really

he's really gotten rough

but I want to do him exactly the same

and I want to do him while Mark

Louis the artist that did the artwork

is still able to do it

you know still physically able to

to do it the same

because it is a trademark and I don't think

I should change them

well talk about that artwork

talk about what's been done

and how you decided to do

that particular paint job on it

I

I was racking my brain I mean it was an oxidized

truck you know oxidized red truck

with little baby moons so it didn't look

like it does now

and I was racking my brains on what to do

and of course everyone always says flames

you know I really had no interest in doing flames

and I thought well how could I do flowers

without making it look

you know I was just trying to think of different things

I could do and without making it look

like a florist truck

and then

one point this was some years back

I had decided I was just going to do

it like a really hot pink because I saw

a Ford pickup that was a really pretty pink

and I thought you know that looks cute

but the very next year at Good Guys

everybody had pink

like the very next good guys

every vehicle wagons

cars trucks everything with hot pink

and

anyway I just I couldn't make up

my mind so I did a silver base

with some pink pearl in it

I went

modest

and then when I decided

with the artwork I went ahead and decided

you know what I had been going to Hawaii

with my boss and bartended and she had

a friend in Hawaii so

I would go to Hawaii with her

and I thought what about a Hawaiian

lay all the way around the truck

and it was nothing

what I had in mind was pretty much

a plumeria like lay

just following the curves around the bottom

of the truck

and I just gave all the Hawaiian

print dresses and shirts to the artist

and I said you're the artist come up with something

you know told him I wanted to lay

and he said I see birds I see

foliage I said you know go ahead have at it

and when I first

I didn't have the hood or the tailgate done

and when I first saw it my immediate reaction

was like oh like I was all excited

and then all of a sudden my stomach dropped

I thought I can't be seen in that thing

I was like oh my god

so I was up and down my emotions

like literally while I stand there

my very first look at it my emotions were

just like up down up down

up down like it was almost

like my life flashing before my eyes

you know just flash flash flash

but anyway I fell in love

with it and then of course

over the years

we had planned to do the tailgate

but over the years I got a little bit of road rash on the hood

and so I had done more flowers

in 2012 so I

had that painted in like

I believe it was

2005

with the sides and then in 2012

I had them freshened up a little bit

and the hood done to cover up

my road rash and

the artist which is my favorite

part of the truck the artist had an idea

to paint well we were actually

I bought a flat tailgate

because we were going to hammer out the T

and do all this different stuff we were trying to

figure out how we would do it and then

when I got it back from the artist

he had done the tailgate as well

and he had covered up the T

with the Hawaiian lay so it's

LEI instead of L-E-T

Chevrolet LEI

on the tailgate

Hawaiian lay all the way around it and that was my favorite part

because I just think it's so clever

that's cool

so you know

basically

probably

I mean the truck was all there

some things were

modified a little bit

so you're going to freshen it back

the way it was

I want to redo it but I want it the same

yeah I mean

I would do the interior different

I mean my interior is good though

but it's old

but you know I just have basic seats

and my name is imported

it says Holley's 56 on the seat

I would probably

upgrade the interior some

maybe a different style

but the truck itself

it's got to be the same

it's got to be silver with the Hawaiian flowers

and exactly as close to the same as it can be

what would you change

my trademark I mean it's

people know that truck so

yeah absolutely

what would you change on it

I mean certainly I would have to be

either very mild aesthetic stuff

or

engine, drive train

differently

well mechanically

I think I'm good where it sits

right now I mean

you know I have a

a relatively new transmission

and motor in there

you know all of cars have their quirks

but it's been

a good ride to me and it's been faithful

I mean like that I've had it

27 years and I've driven the hell out of the thing

I've taken it to Chicago and back from San Diego

wow

from San Diego to LA I mean

it drives that thing

everywhere you know

yeah I mean

you know driven it to Gallup

New Mexico from San Diego and back

on a few occasions

or Nevada Vegas or

you know

so mechanically

I don't think I would want to do

a whole lot to it

I don't think I'd want to change much on it

I mean you know you've done so many things

over the years I mean

it has a Camaro front end

it has a small box Chevy

it has an overdrive transmission

it has upgraded a lot of stuff

it's C-notch it drives really nice

right now

and you know she's got aluminum radiators

you've done so many things

it's going to have its quirks and

maybe need some fine tuning but

mechanically I think it's good

cosmetically like I said I would like to

put in power windows though

and

power windows in it lately too

yeah I put in power windows

finally

which I should have done a long time ago

you know the same thing that happened with my AC

I waited so long to put an AC

I was like what the hell was I thinking

what was I thinking

you know having miserable

miserable times getting stuck

on the freeway here in LA

like on a really hot day

I've had several of those

I got an old

60 Corvette that I've had

since I was a kid

and it's a numbers matching car

so you don't get to change anything on it

and yeah you cook

you just cook

yeah it's just I will say that's the thing with the convertible

I was like what was I thinking

what was I thinking

what the hell was I thinking

and I don't even have the top on it yet

so it's not complete

yeah so it kind of takes away from the fun

yeah

but

well especially because you know

getting older you want comforts

oh yeah yeah

that's why my 260s Corvettes

are sitting upstairs next to our Mercedes

yeah

you know

nice I mean my daily

which is the first and only new car I've ever owned

is a 2013 Dodge Challenger

ooh okay

you know

there's always issues with anything

but it's a nice yeah I haven't

swooped it up or anything

I seem to remember you telling me you got a pretty good ticket

in that one

I did I did damn it

I just got

was that Nevada

I just got one in California

I'm so pissed

I seem to remember you saying you were coming back from

Nevada and

I know I was on my way there

I've been a little heavy on the gas

yeah that was on my way there

so but I just got another one here in California

so the Nevada one

was taken care of though which was really good

that you know

since I guess

it was reduced

to a parking ticket and I paid the fine

so I like Nevada's rules

okay

I'm sure you were heartbroken about that

yeah it was

it was near Tonopal so

you're outside of Tonopal so

you can't get too many more

tickets because

you've got your Christmas morning

cruise coming out

yes I do so it's actually my

15th annual oh cool

well tell us all about it

well it's Hot Red Holly's Christmas

morning cruise and

15 years ago

Dave Stahl one of the

automotive journalists for KUSI

a local TV station in San Diego

he was in

the bar I was working at and I had worked

Thanksgiving

somebody asked how it went and I was like

a long day because I think a bar did it like 11 hours

anyway he goes what about Christmas

and so it kind of came about that we started a Christmas

event on Christmas morning

I basically think he was

due to be at work that day

and wanted somebody for his segment

now the first couple of years we did

children's one of the local shelters

children's charity but I changed

it to the Alpha project which is a homeless

shelter in San Diego

and they're open

people had asked about seeing the kids I was like

we can't the kids are protected

you know so we can't

go visit them on Christmas morning so

I changed it to the Alpha project bridge

shelter so

basically it's just a bunch of people

I don't even care if you don't drive a special

car you know

it's nice if you have a hot rod to bring it

or a lowrider or whatever it is

but we just meet up

and do a little cruise through

some local residential neighborhoods

I have been stopping outside my parents

house for the last several years

and just doing a little regroup there

but we head on down to the Alpha project

and we drop off donations to

the shelter

and all the people down there

really love to see the cars and they

of course they love getting

walks under our toothbrushes whatever it is

fresh items on Christmas morning

and then basically we just take off

and do some other festivities

afterwards so it's just a fun event

and it just happens to like I said

it falls on Christmas and a fun morning

event and a nice

charitable event as well

very cool and that's coming up when

Christmas morning

yeah Christmas morning cruise

I mean it's Christmas morning

you'll have to send me

do you have a website

or a

Facebook page?

I posted some basic details on it

but I'm going to create an event

I was having trouble figuring out where the event

thing was for

Facebook but I got it

so I'm going to create an event this evening

and yeah

I'll definitely tag you in it or share it to you

well please do so we can share it

yeah

alrighty we

we're down to the last question

I've asked both of you this question

previously when we had you on

so we kind of have to do the updated version

what's the dumbest

thing either if you have done in a car in the last year

or

what's the dumbest thing you've seen somebody

else do in a car

in the last couple years

I

aside from getting tickets

yeah exactly and I know I told you

what was one of the dumbest things I've ever done in a car

and that was my experience

I think it was your

yes it was you

let's see

here what's the dumbest thing

have you been cheating on me with other podcasts

I

didn't have another podcast

to pair with Bob and Randy I'm sorry

I thought I heard another

man's voice what the

there you go

but you asked me what was the dumbest thing I ever did in a car

and I told you it was in my

youth

but you know I think

mine's got to be my speeding ticket within the last couple

years I can't really think of

what's the dumbest thing I've done

all right have you seen anybody else do

anything really spectacular

well

you know what I'm going to say the dumbest thing I

did within the last couple years is

when we got an accident my panic

on our way back from a road

trip my panic response of

immediately locked the doors it's

devil worshipers or

I went off and I started thinking

everything under the sun

that it was a setup somebody hit us from behind

to set us up

and they're going to kill us in the woods

we were in Florida some swampy area

yeah but you're a haunted clown nobody

can do anything to you

well obviously

I think that's where it's coming from

yeah so I had all kinds

of crazy ideas but yeah that

my speeding ticket

all right

Mike what do you got

well I'm going to regress

okay I'm going to go to my

18 year old

me

1969

Barracuda the 360

automatic okay good start

we're at the

car club house

and I backed out of the driveway

and turn the corner

I'm rolling backwards I drop it into neutral

go to 3,000 rpm and

drop it into power oh god he's got a neutral

drop

and it spit out the spider gears to the cover

yep oh my god

and you know

rev it high and

fortunately

it was on the hills I got the roll down

the hill to my house and into the back

yard and

you wouldn't know what it happened

oh yeah that was a big puddle and a bunch of metal crap

on the streets and I was the first one out

there was 20 other guys coming behind me

so I looked like an idiot

I'm sorry to admit

that I saw that one coming

yeah you did

now the second part of that is

I put a rear end out of a Volvo

140 in it

which is a Dana 44

with disc brakes

and then I drove it for

a little while longer

and I raised my

buddy

on the freeway

and when we got to the exit

and I let off the throttle the oil lamp started

glowing oh no

because I over revved it when I dropped

the

after the spit the spider gears out

so when I came into the turn

to come off the freeway

I lost one of the rods through the side

of the block oh my god

oh no

so yeah that was

a dumb thing to do but

you learned

I take it back the dumbest thing I've ever done

was allow somebody else to drive

my car

apparently

after hearing these stories I was like wait a second

did I ask you to move my truck for me

okay was it Mike

somebody yeah

oh gosh

so I mean

you're young when you're young

and you have you know I was fortunate

to have some high-powered muscle cars

and I didn't treat them really

well so you know there's a few of those

stories yeah

Mark said that

you know his parents wanted him to be safe

so they got him a car with a lot of metal

around him my dad got me

a Camaro I can only assume that he wanted

me to be dead

it's

it is

just by sheer stupid

luck that I didn't kill me

and a bunch of other people because I was

such a jackass in that car

and neutral drops yeah

may have done those may have seen

just how far you could drive it sideways

in the rain

and my dad

listens to this show pop there's a hundred

other things I did in that car way more

than a hundred that I can't tell you about

and I'm 56

and I have I mean I had

that that barracuda I had

a 69 firewood with a 455

400 in it okay

72 Roadrunner with a

446 pack in it good lord

and yeah and I had a bunch

of other cars but those cars

for an 18 year old was complete

stupidity yes yes

you know I had a 1955

Plymouth with the curb weight of the

USS Missouri and it

it had like a

271 v8 it with the three

on the tree and I lined it up

my buddy had a what was it an old

65 Oldsmobile

f85 big

long-ass beast of a car we lined

them up at these headlight

stoplight and we're both revving look

at each other and I got it in first

I revved it up I pop

that clutch tires spun

well his did mine didn't move

and that was the day that I erased

my clutch

it's fun

yeah it's great and especially

the phone call to dad I don't know what

happened god bless you dad forgive me

except your dad's gonna get there and he's gonna go

yeah you idiot

that smells like moron

yeah sir

I know exactly what that smells like

I may or may not have fried a clutch

in a car or two in the past

good time

see the more we talk about this stuff

the more stuff I remember and that's what brings

color and culture together

that's why I went back and regressed a little bit

so

I was in my

early 20s

and had buried

myself in a car I couldn't afford had an

87 Corvette convertible that was fairly

new then and

remember lining up

to race a guy in a

wax body Mustang but it had

had

a raised hood had a bubble hood on it

with a 351

painted on the side and you could hear the Mustang

over my Corvette and I'm like

I'm gonna get my butt handed

but it was three lanes

we were on Metcalf

at the bridge at 435

head and southbound

and three lanes wide

oh my saving grace

a new Corvette ZR-1 pulled up

on the other side of the Mustang

lights changed

I dropped it we launched really well

the Mustang walked away from me

but the ZR-1 cleaned his

clock so I felt

like I'd been redeemed a little bit

for driving a Corvette at least

some variety of Corvette beat that guy

I like that one I remember

that one that one stuck with me

alrighty we have been speaking with

K. Michael Wallen and Holly

Hansman please tell us where we

can find each of you online and on

social media

go Harry

if you search Hot Rod Holly

Hot Rod Holly Hansman

on Instagram or Facebook I should

pop right on up

if you type in custom mics with 1M

or 2M it doesn't really matter you type

it into Google most of the first page

will get you hit

oh Holly and Mike

if you want to see

of the Swedish shows

just go to custom mics youtube and there's

a bunch of videos from the shows that we attended

oh very cool

very very cool

Holly and Mike thank you so much for being

with us we really appreciate it

thank you for having us we appreciate the opportunity

good luck with that car Mark

yeah I'm gonna need it

I'm trying to help steer him in the right

direction but sometimes it's hard

it's just not big enough

we're talking about a Ford you know

hahahaha

holy hell

did that go

too far afield

that was fun they're fun

okay I enjoy them

I thought I had permanently forgotten

the testicle festival in Olien, Missouri

and the other thing

that you didn't mention that is absolutely

true when you go to that thing

is the

grease that is

everywhere from people frying stuff

boots the street I had it on the bottom

of my boots it was just

it is thick

and you don't you don't ride a Harley

around down there

and I would also recommend that you don't

get in line for the

testicles

at prime eating times you know lunchtime

or toward dinner

nobody likes cold balls

no and you know they're trying

to put them out as quickly as they can so

I I try to

I finally bought some the first time I was there

I didn't because I

didn't because

but the second time I'm like no man

these people have been so good to me

and so nice to me I'm gonna as a vendor

I'm gonna kick in so I bought

some testicles but they were

frying them as fast as they possible

so you know kind of like chicken wings that you get

from a restaurant that are also frozen when they start

they were a little

under done

let's say they were a little chewy

yeah a little medium rare

and I just

I that kind of ended

my curiosity I ate like

two out of this mound in this thing

and I'm like you know what no

the grease had lost

its heat it wasn't

it wasn't quite as crispy as

one really needs to get through

the whole experience so

so yeah that was a wrap on that

we live

weird times not very

far away

from where there were

true honest to God

hillbillies oh yeah

in fact

so I grew up when the

when the Corps of Engineers

or maybe it was

maybe it was a

Lick of the Ozarks an alphabet

soup thing FDR

was a part

of one of those works project deals

I don't you know Lick of the Ozarks

it's so funny

admit this because I've never considered

Lick of the Ozarks part of the Ozarks

for me Ozarks were always northern

Arkansas and southern Missouri it's like the hardcore

well no no but what the

point I'm making is

when they it's a man-made lake

yeah yeah and all they did is

is dam up

some creeks

creeks and rivers yep and

it filled it but if you look

at the Lake of the Ozarks on a map

it's a big snaking

it's they

it's a valley that twists

through

southern Missouri and they made

this lake here's

because we used to own a place down

there

Lake of the Ozarks has more miles of shoreline

than Florida yeah

and if you look at it on a map

it's a snake it snakes as much

as we talked about snakes on the show

it twists and

turns around but it displaced

a ton of people

yep that lived

in the valley lived in the woods

people who didn't ran around without shoes on

and if you go back

a few generations in my family

there were people who ran around

without shoes on living in houses with dirt floors

yep and

they didn't waste

anything they didn't

have a lot of food

there was no

food security

which I think is the dumbest phrase

along with a bunch of other stuff

but

they didn't waste anything

so the whole

friand testicles thing was done because you didn't

waste anything

if you butchered a cow

or a pig

you ate every bit of it where do you think

sweetmates come from eating brains and eating tongue

and all that other stuff

they didn't waste anything

beef liver

I still have not been able to

do tripe yet

I think I might

have maybe tried

a little bit of it at a Mexican buffet

so tripe is brains right?

no intestines

oh okay yeah

haven't done that one

you put enough hot sauce on anything

and all you taste is pain

but I've not been able to do

the more

rudimentary versions of it

there's a certain smell to the

processing that is

reminiscent of things I don't want to

reminisce in my mouth

freaking Dalhart, Texas

you ever want to get that smell in your car

and not be able to get it out for 100 miles

it's freaking Dalhart, Texas

five processing plants

and a rendering plant

it's a very distinct smell

can you imagine what the west bottoms used to smell like

in the yards

because Dalhart has

feedlots surrounding it

oh god feedlots

and Rhonda's folks used to live

a few miles south of a feedlot

if the wind was just right

holy jumping Jesus

it was bad

the breeze was cool you just couldn't be in it

coming out of the north big mistake

it was the same way at San Angelo, Texas

because

I had a choice between moving there

back in 2001

I had two job offers great group of people

down in San Angelo, Texas

did you go check it out and say no I don't think so

honestly I was all for it

but there was one night I was working part time

for this place

studio stream was the name of it

and at the time they were doing live radio

for all of the sonics

and this was you know umpteen years ago

you go out and do a

remote

it was a radio station

that broadcast to sonics

across the nation

3,500 of them

studio stream was a great place

the kents were the owners, love you guys

thank you for the possibilities

and for years of letting me do audio

for you however

there was a wind

that blew I went out of there one night

I had done the late shift

and I stepped out of these studios

it's at one o'clock in the morning

and honest to God

have you ever had a

somebody have to come in and break up your pipes

coming from your house down out to the street

because there's a clog

it was like that only inescapable

it was a nightmare

it's like you could almost feel it

on your clothing

and the next day I get up that morning

oh God

well the clothes are a little funky

but you go back out and it's all fresh air

and sunshine and birdies

and I went to the guys that day

what the hell was going on

oh that's the yards

they're up north and when the wind comes out of the north

I'm like sweet mother of God

and unfortunately we had that happen

too when I took Cammie

my wife down there to say hey what do you think

of this town because there were cool houses

it was you know

semi-arid I loved pretty much everything about it

but she was like no

no

I'm not doing this

that's it

well imagine jet stream

switches around and you get three days of north wind

yeah

that's three days and close the windows close the doors

well and I'm moving

and also

if you live on a farm

and you're south of a feed lot

and you

are serviced by well water

there's a chance that the water

doesn't smell

real wonderful

and you only drink bottled water

or pop while you're at her parents house

wow

yeah

ooh yeah

gotta love the beef business

I love steaks but I don't like mistakes

yeah no

I love the way it tastes

after it's been butchered and delivered to me

I

I don't want to be part of that process

no

hey I know my limits

I know my limits

and that is one of them

the other thing about this we talked about snakes

I

I have a

really unnatural

fear and disgust

of snakes

oh wow

and I'd rather go to prison

for a while

I really really

really don't like snakes

so when I

was running that lawn mower

trying to kill those little critters

it wasn't just purely because I didn't want

them around the house

I wanted them dead all of them dead

I don't care that they're eating

mice and all that other crap

I want them dead

I've never had too much of a problem

with snakes I did one time

I was 18 working with my uncle

Uncle David doing steam cleaning

and janitorial work in the morning

then I worked at western sizzling at night

this is down in Branson Missouri

that's how I paid for college

and I was working these two jobs

and one morning we went out to this place

oh god why they wanted us to steam clean

their carpets in this trailer

I couldn't tell you but we did it

it was a trailer

nice trailer

it was a double white

but it was a trailer

and on their front porch

the wood porch was a

and I'm like oh kind of cool

I'm so glad they're not poisonous

because I walked up and the thing just looked

totally mellow and I

reached my little finger out

I touched it

I've never seen anything move that fast

and that son of a bitch was on my finger

and I'm like ahhh

and I slung it off and then there's

four needle points that are bleeding profusely

and I'm like oh god

and I just was like oh they're not poisonous

but you know they can

do infections

so I watched it for a while

I did alright

oh my Christ I would have come out of my skin

you know

when you're

two cups of stupid

shaker of dumb

that's what happens

I don't know what it is

I had a friend of mine growing up

who just used to

he would go out with a stick

and a pillowcase

and he would go catch a bunch of these things

and his parents

were absolutely cool with it

which is just foreign to me

that's one of the

lines my mom would have drawn

no snakes and

he would go Mike Bay

he was a really really interesting kid

but he would go out and just turn over rocks

and logs and look for him

and he'd have

his dad built all kinds of shelves

in their basement and he had aquariums

and he would buy

frozen mice

and feed these things

he had a ton of these

damn things and then one summer

he bought a bunch of

rats

freshly weaned rats to feed to his snakes

and every kid in the neighborhood

wound up with a pet rat

I even had one

I think rats are kinda okay

but not snakes

sounds like Willard

can't do it

Mike Bay, interesting kid

had an African

gray parrot that would call their dog

and then bark at it

wow

the Bay house was quite an experience

yep two doors down, really interesting

he always knew something fun was going to be going on

over at Mike's house

how far off track have we gotten here?

way far

bring it back

again I have to go take my ADD mess

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