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Driven Radio Show #354: Markku Jaakkola and Jacob Gilbert

Driven Radio Show #354: Markku Jaakkola and Jacob Gilbert

Driven Radio Show May 23, 2026 79 min
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About this episode

Storm-and-weekend updates turn into a Bring a Trailer dispute and some hands-on repair math, including figuring out the cost to fix a windshield wiper motor and dealing with unexpected body rot. Markku Jaakkola and Jacob Gilbert then share road-trip stories—like a 1,300-mile overnight dash and a first Bucky’s stop at 2 a.m.—plus how they became car people. The conversation expands into Route 66 plans, a gold-plated 1954/55 Chevy museum miss, and a Quail-to-Lemons-to-Pebble Chrysler New Yorker run.

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body rod

"And the hard part's going to be the body rod. It was a new, Edelbrock or new Holley, I forget."

They’re talking about a metal support piece that helps the car’s body stay strong. If rust has eaten through parts of the body, reinforcing pieces like this can be important so the car doesn’t flex or feel unsafe.

Brand

Holley 4160

"Okay. Make sure you. Holley 4160. Yeah, make sure you throw that bad boy in there."

Holley 4160 is a type of fuel carburetor made by Holley. It helps the engine mix fuel and air, and hot-rod builders like it because it’s popular and can be adjusted for better performance.

Term

body rot

"The finding that the bubbles above the rear wheels was not fun, but then when I found that corner of body rot in the fender well, and I'm like, wait a minute, that's through."

“Body rot” is serious rust that has eaten into the car’s metal. If it’s in the fender area, it can mean the damage goes deeper than it looks, so repairs may be bigger than expected.

Car

Nissan XTerra

"...d of usurp it and put up my listing of the Nissan XTERRA and I put a link on there plus that slightly revi..."

The Nissan XTerra is an SUV designed for people who want a more rugged, adventure-ready vehicle. It’s built to handle rougher roads better than many regular cars. The podcast mentions it because someone is sharing information or a listing about one.

Car

65 Stingray rag top

"Anybody out there in tradioland interested in the 65 of Stingray rag top with two top car has a hard top, uh, 327 300 horse power glides, uh, Pearl silver over black paint"

A “Stingray” is the Corvette name, and “rag top” means it’s a convertible. This sounds like a classic 1960s Corvette that people collect and restore.

Term

Hagerty price guide

"But it does have factory Kelsey Hayes knockoffs on there, which are a $10,000 add according to the Hagerty price guide."

The Hagerty price guide is a collector-car valuation reference that estimates values based on condition. Enthusiasts use it to sanity-check what a car is worth, especially for classics where condition and originality strongly affect price.

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Kelsey Hayes knockoffs

"But it does have factory Kelsey Hayes knockoffs on there, which are a $10,000 add according to the Hagerty price guide."

Kelsey Hayes knockoffs are aftermarket-style “knockoff” wheel hubs where the wheel is secured with a knock-on style mechanism. They’re a big visual and authenticity detail on classic cars, and they can be expensive because they’re often period-correct and desirable to collectors.

Topic

Corvette museum in Bowling Green

"Cause that is going to carry me on a trip in July to the Corvette museum in Bowling Green."

The Corvette museum in Bowling Green is a destination tied to Chevrolet’s Corvette heritage. It’s relevant here because the hosts are discussing Corvettes they own/restore and the trip is part of their enthusiast experience.

Car

Fiat 124

"Well, and the Lada was just stolen from Fiat. It's a Fiat 124 made by Russians with"

The Fiat 124 is an older, well-known car model. In this discussion, it’s mentioned as the starting point the Lada design is compared to.

Car

Lada Niva

"We'll go by a Fiat 124 Lada Niva, Niva. Yeah, that's the four by four."

The Lada Niva is a small off-road vehicle that’s built to drive on rough roads. The hosts are talking about how it looks and feels like a fun, tough little four-wheel-drive hatch.

Term

four by four

"We'll go by a Fiat 124 Lada Niva, Niva. Yeah, that's the four by four."

“Four by four” means the car can send power to all four wheels. That helps it handle rough or slippery roads better.

Car

Honda S600

"when they first came out only. Like you said, you mean like a Honda S 600 when it looked like a pregnant roller skate."

The Honda S600 is an older Honda sports car that’s small and light. It’s known for being a compact, fun car rather than a big cruiser. The podcast mentions it to describe a car’s shape and size.

Term

bucket seats

"Now, was it just bucket seats in the front or was it two benches? Bucket seats. No."

Bucket seats are separate seats with a shaped, supportive form. Instead of a long bench, you sit in one seat at a time.

Term

manual transmission

"Bucket seats. No. And manual transmission. Heck, yeah."

A manual transmission is a stick shift. You use a clutch pedal and a gear lever to choose the gear yourself.

Term

three speed

"Heck, yeah. What, a three speed?"

A “three-speed” means the car has three forward gears. With fewer gears, it can feel different when you’re driving faster or slower.

Car

Lada 1500

"And he got the Lada 1500 Oh, nicely, you know, yep."

The Lada 1500 is an older Lada car from the Soviet era. It’s the kind of straightforward, no-frills car that someone could learn to drive in.

Car

55 Chevy

"But yeah, I remember, you know, sliding across the back seat of the 55 Chevy as we were, you know, going around some corners"

“55 Chevy” means a 1955 Chevrolet, a famous older American car. The story highlights how the car’s interior and ride feel made an early impression.

Car

928

"No, from there, I went to a 928 you know, and my dad had, you know, throughout, you know, growing up"

The “928” is a Porsche model (the Porsche 928). It’s a more luxury-style Porsche, and it’s known for being a serious, fast touring car.

Concept

slide them

"Been there, done that and even found out, yeah, you can slide them. Oh, my God."

“Slide them” means the tractor loses grip and starts skidding instead of moving smoothly. On snow, that’s easier to happen because the tires can’t bite as well.

Car

John Deere 820

"We had a 69 John Deere 820 and it had field tires on it. But, you know, when it snowed and you're plowing the driveway, the thing was kind of squirrely."

A John Deere 820 is a farm tractor. Here, the key point is that with field tires in snow, it didn’t grip well, so it could slide around when plowing.

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field tires

"We had a 69 John Deere 820 and it had field tires on it. But, you know, when it snowed and you're plowing the driveway, the thing was kind of squirrely."

Field tires are the kind of tires tractors use for farm work. They’re built for dirt and fields, so on snow they may grip differently and let the tractor slide more easily.

Concept

authenticate the car

"And I can, you know, he tried verifying the car for years through GM and through different sources. And nobody ever could fully authenticate the car and, you know, come to find out there was actually probably three of them built to begin with."

“Authenticating” here means figuring out if the car is truly what people think it is. They’re trying to confirm its real identity and history using records and evidence.

Brand

GM

"And I can, you know, he tried verifying the car for years through GM and through different sources."

GM is the big car company (General Motors). People can use GM records to help prove whether a car is real and correctly identified.

Term

wet sanded

"But when you wet sanded the original paint down in this car, it came out to be 100 percent gold painted."

Wet sanding is a careful sanding method that uses water while you sand. In this case, it helped show what color the car was originally painted before other layers were added.

Concept

Motorama

"Because it was part of the Motorama."

Motorama was a GM event where they showed off special cars to the public. The gold paint makes sense because it was meant to stand out as a showpiece.

Term

data plates

"we had the original Vintags and, you know, data plates and the very, very early build November or no, September 24th, I want to say of 54."

Data plates are small identification tags on the car that show build details. People use them to confirm the car’s history and specs when they’re trying to prove it’s genuine.

Concept

pre-production built car

"It was a pre-production built car that they ran back through the factory"

A pre-production car is an early version made before the factory starts building the regular cars. It can have differences, so it helps explain why the paperwork and details might not match a typical production example.

Part

shocks

"[1642.9s] But no, we have a I mean, I didn't plan on going into all this today. [1647.7s] But yeah, we have a photo of me holding a set of shocks [1651.4s] with the shocks completely extended and the inside of the shocks are completely [1655.5s] gold plated and who else would do that?"

Shocks are parts of the suspension that help the car ride smoothly over bumps. In this story, the shocks are treated in a very special way—gold plated inside.

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gold plated

"[1647.7s] But yeah, we have a photo of me holding a set of shocks [1651.4s] with the shocks completely extended and the inside of the shocks are completely [1655.5s] gold plated and who else would do that?"

“Gold plated” means a very thin gold coating was put on a surface. Here, it’s being used as a fancy finish inside the shocks.

Concept

Flint parade celebration

"[1662.5s] But, you know, to have them plated, [1662.5s] they shut down all the GM factories across the US for this day. [1666.5s] And they were simulcasting the celebration for Flint. [1670.9s] And so back when we, Mark, who did this and we're looking at purchase in the car, [1674.6s] there was still a lot of Flint residents that were alive when that parade happened. [1679.5s] And they could tell me where they were standing at downtown Flint."

They’re talking about a big celebration in Flint tied to an anniversary. The car story connects to that event, which is why the details feel so specific.

Concept

rebirth

"it was going to, or, you know, GM product, it was going to be, you know, a rebirth of the 50 million using a lot of those original parts and also the original frame"

Here, “rebirth” means bringing an old classic car back in a faithful way. The idea is to use original parts and the original frame so it feels like the same car again.

Concept

original frame

"a rebirth of the 50 million using a lot of those original parts and also the original frame and just, you know, tell the whole story of the car."

“Original frame” means the main metal structure underneath the car is kept. Using the original frame helps the restoration stay true to how the car was built.

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white wall tires

"Everything had to be American made, even down to like the white wall tires [1909.4s] that he picked for this New Yorker when he owned it were, you know, made in the USA."

White wall tires are tires with a white stripe on the side. They’re a classic look that was common on older American cars.

Concept

Route 66

"But we're doing it in his honor, like we said, he passed away in 24. [1923.3s] And we know that if he was, you know, alive today, that he would definitely be here with us [1929.0s] and, you know, traveling Route 66 and celebrating all things America,"

Route 66 is a legendary U.S. road that people associate with classic road trips. They mention it to describe the kind of American driving and travel spirit they’re honoring.

Car

1973 Chrysler New Yorker

"Absolutely. Tell us about the the car. [1942.0s] Yeah. So the car is the 1973 Chrysler New Yorker and the Hans Sporting in 2013."

The 1973 Chrysler New Yorker is a large American luxury car from the early 1970s. The hosts are talking about this exact car as the one they’re trying to keep and restore.

Brand

Mopar

"Yeah. So the car is the 1973 Chrysler New Yorker and the Hans Sporting in 2013. [1949.6s] And, you know, like Jacob said, he was he was driving around mostly Detroit area, [1954.0s] but, you know, also went to Mopar Nationals and all kinds of different events."

Mopar is the name fans use for Chrysler’s performance and enthusiast world. “Mopar Nationals” is an event where people bring Mopar cars to show and race them.

Concept

sat outside for a few years

"[1985.7s] So I so I got it and I worked on it. [1989.4s] Of course, it had been sitting outside for a few years. [1991.9s] And I think total it was like 11 years that it sat."

If a car sits outside for years, weather can damage it—especially rust and worn-out rubber parts. The hosts say this one sat outside for about 11 years, so it likely needs more work than a car that was stored indoors.

Term

miles

"[2019.1s] Did you paint it? What all have you done to it? [2021.2s] No, no, it's an original car. [2023.0s] It's 62,000 miles on it. Wow."

They mention the car has 62,000 miles, meaning how much it’s been driven. Higher mileage usually means more use over time.

Car

Ford Fusion

"...nning around on my right side and it hit a fourth fusion after that. And cause of the fusion."

The Ford Fusion is a regular, everyday car in the sedan category. It’s meant for commuting and daily driving rather than being a sports car. The podcast mentions it because it was involved in what happened in the story.

Term

breezeway window

"There's a 64 Mercury in there that's got the breezeway window in the back."

A breezeway window is a special kind of rear window design. It’s meant to let air in from the side without fully opening the whole window area.

Car

Lincoln Mark III

"Hello. What is it? A Mark Mark three? [2365.4s] Or was that still Mark one? ... Yeah, Mark three. I used to have a Mark three in..."

“Mark three” is the Lincoln Mark III. It’s a classic luxury car, and the speaker says they used to own one.

Term

Virgil Exner on acid look

"73. Oh, no, there's a picture of a 62 Chrysler New Yorker in Forza after the new owner got. ... Virgil Exner on acid look."

They’re using a nickname for a very bold Chrysler design style associated with Virgil Exner. “On acid” just means the styling looks extra wild and over-the-top.

Car

Harley Earl's 38 Y job

"Is that a 30? Is that Harley Earl's 38 Y job on there? Yes, I think there's one photo."

Harley Earl’s "38 Y job" is the 1938 Buick Y-Job. It’s a famous early concept car that showed off styling ideas that later made their way into regular production cars.

Car

51 Le Sabre

"That's that's that's the 51 Le Sabre. I've seen the Y job. I sometimes give the two flip."

That sounds like a 1951 Buick LeSabre. It’s a classic American car from the early 1950s, known for its distinctive old-school design.

Concept

turbine car

"So, so not only are we going to be like one of the only Chrysler's ever [2770.5s] shown at Quail, I mean, unless you're talking about a like a turbine car or [2776.2s] something like that, turbine or an air flow or something like that."

A turbine car is a car that uses a turbine engine (like a jet-style power unit) instead of the usual engine you’d find in most cars. It’s a rare, experimental type of setup.

Concept

air flow

"shown at Quail, I mean, unless you're talking about a like a turbine car or [2776.2s] something like that, turbine or an air flow or something like that."

“Air flow” here is shorthand for aerodynamic or airflow-focused experimental vehicles that may be shown alongside more conventional cars. The hosts contrast these unusual entries with their “true Chrysler,” implying their car is more traditional than the airflow/turbine concepts.

Concept

Pebble

"And we're really working for a spot at Pebble. [2797.2s] I mean, if anybody can help us out with this, you know, I think, I think [2800.4s] we can get at least get on the hill."

“Pebble” is short for a famous classic-car show in Pebble Beach. They’re hoping their car gets into the main display area (“on the hill”), which is a big deal.

Concept

Peter Hay Hill

"we can get at least get on the hill. [2801.8s] If we can get on Peter Hay Hill and, you know, we can, you know, [2804.9s] if anybody wants to sponsor us, we can put the car out there."

Peter Hay Hill is the well-known hill area where cars are shown at Pebble Beach. If they can get their car up there, it means it’s getting a top spot.

Term

subwoofer

"You're adding a subwoofer as well. Hell, yes."

A subwoofer is a speaker made for deep “bass” sounds. It helps your car audio sound richer instead of thin.

Term

manifold

"OK, did you did you decide to put bufflers back on it? Or did you split the manifold and run duals?"

A manifold is a part that gathers gases from the engine and sends them down the exhaust. It’s part of how the exhaust system is routed and can affect sound and flow.

Term

dual exhaust

"Or did you split the manifold and run duals? No, just single single cherry bomb."

Dual exhaust means there are two exhaust pipes instead of one. It can change how the car sounds and how exhaust gases move out.

Brand

Cherry Bomb

"No, just single single cherry bomb. Have you done cherry bomb? There you go."

Cherry Bomb is a brand that makes aftermarket mufflers. People choose it when they want a specific, louder exhaust sound.

Term

air cleaner lid

"I've also heard that if you flip the air cleaner lid, yeah, makes a nicer sound."

The air cleaner lid is part of the intake system that covers the air filter. Flipping or modifying it can change intake airflow path and how much intake noise reaches the cabin, which is why it’s discussed as a way to get a “nicer sound.”

Term

coil

"Well, cherry bomb. Coil, I've also heard that if you flip the air cleaner lid, yeah, makes a nicer sound."

The transcript’s word “coil” doesn’t clearly match what they’re talking about right after. The next lines are about the air cleaner lid and sound, so this may be a transcription mistake.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

"... nicer sound. Yeah, I used to do that on a crappy Camaro. Oh, my God, I haven't thought about that."

The Chevrolet Camaro is a sports car with a focus on power and acceleration. People talk about it a lot because it has a strong performance reputation. In the podcast, it’s mentioned in connection with someone’s past Camaro and what they did with it.

Term

wide whites

"Then we also got fresh, you know, fresh wide whites. You know, we got got the white walls on it."

Wide whites are tires that have a thick white stripe on the side. It’s a classic look that makes the car feel more vintage.

Term

octane

"Do you have to go find like it? Do you have to search for the stores for the highest octane possible?"

Octane is how resistant the fuel is to knocking in the engine. Some engines need higher-octane gas to run smoothly, especially if they’re tuned or have higher compression.

Term

optional putting green on the trunk

"Chrysler, New Yorker, Lynx. With the optional putting green on the trunk. 230 point one inches, nineteen point 17 feet."

That phrase describes a fun accessory: a small “putting green” surface mounted on the trunk. It was basically a novelty feature meant to make the car feel extra fancy and entertaining.

Car

Chevrolet Suburban

"How long is the suburban? I've been a suburban isn't quite that long. Let'..."

The Chevrolet Suburban is a big SUV designed to carry lots of people or cargo. It’s known for being very long compared with smaller SUVs. The podcast is talking about its size because it’s a key part of what makes it useful.

Car

Toyota Tercel

"...ng 95 and some hotty in a believe it was a Toyota Tercel past me and I'm like, you cannot be pedaling that..."

The Toyota Tercel is a small, everyday car made for getting around efficiently. It’s not usually known as a sports car, but it can still move in traffic like any normal car. The podcast brings it up because it was the car that passed the speaker.

Concept

Detroit land barges

"this guy has kind of my taste in fricking land barges. Detroit land barges is right."

A “land barge” is a nickname for huge, old-school American cars. It usually means a big, comfortable cruiser with lots of chrome and classic styling.

Car

Lancia Kappa

"I went state fair on it. I had, you know, kappa. Oh, yeah. I had two of those Dixie cups, Red Dic..."

The Lancia Kappa is a mid-size car made by Lancia. It was designed to be a comfortable, everyday sedan with a more distinctive look than many common cars. The podcast mentions it because someone is talking about their experience with one.

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