Durango Hellcat Review; Waymo vs Taxi; Mercedes Update
About this episode
A big chunk of the conversation is spent on the Dodge Durango Hellcat, from its 700-plus-horsepower three-row packaging to track-day reality, where the hosts praise the absurd speed but complain about weak brakes and awful fuel use. From there, the show wanders through Waymo versus taxi behavior at LAX, a rideshare driver’s tactics, and a grab bag of listener questions covering BRZ rally builds, Corvette value, Mercedes swap complexity, Rivian reliability, and practical track-day advice.
Matt Farah and Zack Klapman took the new 2026 Durango Hellcat Jailbreak on a road course, where it did some things; they briefly touch on a weekend racing cars; a rare Lotus sedan is for sale; Mercedes project update; taxi vs Waymo; and tasteless t-shirts.
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Recorded April 29, 2026
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market price
"How many watchers go, oh man, Dave will get market price. [119.7s] A thousand is what you need to get market price, basically. [122.9s] It's a cool car, good color."
They’re talking about what the car is worth right now in the real buying market. It’s basically the price you’d expect to pay if you were shopping for one.
“Market price” here means the going value of the car based on what buyers are currently paying, not the giveaway price or a dealer sticker price. In enthusiast circles, it often implies the car’s real-world resale value.
Nissan R32
"I think, then like an R32, this is faster than R32. Without the teeth and the pull out."
The R32 is a specific older generation of the Nissan Skyline GT-R. They’re using it as a reference point to say their car is quicker than that classic GT-R.
The R32 is the 1989–1994 generation of the Nissan Skyline GT-R, one of the most iconic “Godzilla” era GT-Rs. The hosts compare the car’s speed and feel against an R32 to set expectations for performance.
boost curve
"It's absolutely, the boost curve and shit like that is very Skyline-y. It's that kind of engine, but put into a normal car, right?"
A “boost curve” is how the turbo’s extra pressure ramps up as you rev the engine. It changes the feel of acceleration—whether power arrives early or later.
A “boost curve” describes how turbocharger boost pressure builds and changes over engine RPM. When someone says it’s “Skyline-y,” they mean the boost comes on in a similar way—often affecting how quickly the car feels fast.
engine
"It's that kind of engine, but put into a normal car, right? Whereas the GT-R is like, that was the focus."
They’re talking about the engine’s personality—how it makes power and how it feels when you drive it.
In this context, “engine” is being used as shorthand for the car’s powerplant character—how it delivers torque and responds like the Skyline. It’s not a specific part name, but it’s central to the comparison being made.
Nissan Gtr
"Whereas the GT-R is like, that was the focus. I mean, it seems like it handles nicely and it rides well and has decent enough brakes."
“GT-R” is Nissan’s high-performance sports car. They’re saying the GT-R was designed with a particular focus, while this other car feels different.
“GT-R” is Nissan’s performance model name, known for all-wheel-drive traction and a reputation for strong acceleration and track capability. Here, the speaker contrasts the GT-R’s “focus” with the car they’re driving.
Acura Legend
"Seats look like an Acura Legend seat, [188.9s] something like that."
They’re comparing the seat to the kind you’d find in an Acura Legend. The point is that the seat feels comfortable and “luxury-like.”
The host compares the seat shape to an Acura Legend, using it as a reference point for comfort and design. The Acura Legend is a mid-size luxury sedan, so the comparison suggests the Lotus Carlton’s seats feel upscale and supportive.
third gear
"But man, when you fucking roll into this thing [193.0s] in third gear, fucking goos."
A car’s transmission has different gears. Saying it’s great in third gear means the car pulls hard when you’re driving in that gear.
“Third gear” is a specific ratio in the transmission. When the host says it “goes” in third gear, they’re describing how strongly the car accelerates at that point in the rev/gear range.
Lotus Carlton
"So, talking about the Lotus Carlton, [205.8s] I don't wanna mis-title him, [207.2s] but he's selling it on a brand trailer... [216.8s] So this was the fastest sedan in the world in the 92."
The Lotus Carlton is a special, rare performance sedan made by Lotus. It’s based on a regular family car, but tuned to be much faster and more exciting to drive.
The Lotus Carlton is a rare, high-performance sedan built by Lotus based on the Opel/Vauxhall Carlton platform. It’s known for being extremely quick for its era and for its limited production numbers, which is why the hosts are impressed by how “real” and fast it feels.
intercooler
"Is this little intercooler here right before the engine? [212.7s] That's cool. [213.2s] A little air to air?"
An intercooler cools the air that a turbo compresses before it goes into the engine. Cooler air helps the engine make more power and run more safely.
An intercooler is a heat exchanger used on turbocharged engines to cool the compressed air before it enters the engine. Cooler, denser air improves combustion and helps performance and knock resistance.
air to air
"That's cool. [213.2s] A little air to air? [214.8s] Yeah."
“Air-to-air” means the intercooler uses outside air to cool the turbocharged air. It’s like a small radiator that helps the engine breathe better.
“Air-to-air” describes an intercooler design where hot charge air is cooled by passing air through a radiator-like core. It’s typically mounted where airflow is available (often in the front) and is common on performance turbo cars.
fastest sedan in the world
"[216.8s] So this was the fastest sedan in the world in the 92."
They’re saying this car was one of the quickest sedans back in 1992. It’s a brag about how fast it was compared with other sedans at the time.
This is a performance claim referring to the car’s top speed or acceleration achievements at the time. In enthusiast discussions, it usually means the model set a notable benchmark among sedans in that era.
only made 950 of them
"They only made 950 of them. [221.9s] Wow."
They’re saying only a small number of these cars were built. That rarity is part of why it feels special and hard to find.
Limited production numbers like “only made 950” indicate the car is rare, which often increases collector interest and can affect pricing. It also helps explain why the hosts are treating it like a special find.
supercharged V8
"Because cars are coming back from the dead [381.7s] with giant supercharged V8s that go. [387.5s] So obviously for people listening, [389.2s] we went racing this weekend,"
A supercharged V8 is an engine with eight cylinders that has a device that pushes extra air into the engine. That extra air helps the engine make more power.
A supercharged V8 uses a belt-driven compressor (“supercharger”) to force more air into the engine. More air generally means more fuel can be burned, which boosts power compared with the same engine without forced induction.
Dodge Durango Hellcat
"So we got a Dodge Durango Hellcat jailbreak in Destroyer. [440.5s] in Destroyer. [442.0s] That's the same color I had in the charger."
This is a super-powerful Dodge Durango SUV. The “Hellcat” name means it has a very strong engine, so it’s meant to be fast, not just practical.
The Dodge Durango Hellcat is a high-performance version of the Durango SUV, powered by the Hellcat engine family. It’s known for bringing “muscle car” power to an SUV body, which is why it’s a big deal in enthusiast circles.
Hellcat jailbreak
"So we got a Dodge Durango Hellcat jailbreak in Destroyer. [440.5s] in Destroyer. [442.0s] That's the same color I had in the charger."
They’re referring to a specific Hellcat version with extra options. Think of it like a “special package” that changes the look and sometimes the equipment compared to a standard Hellcat.
“Hellcat jailbreak” refers to a Hellcat-branded Dodge with the Jailbreak package/trim theme, which typically bundles styling and performance-oriented options. The key idea is that it’s not just a base Hellcat—it’s a specific option/trim configuration.
Destroyer
"in Destroyer. [440.5s] in Destroyer. [442.0s] That's the same color I had in the charger. [444.0s] Destroyer, it's Battleship Grey."
“Destroyer” is the name Dodge uses for a particular paint color. They’re basically debating whether the name fits the shade.
“Destroyer” is a specific paint color name used by Dodge. They’re discussing how the color sounds and how it compares to another color name, emphasizing that the naming is part of the brand’s personality.
Challenger Hellcat
"It remains current. So we got a Dodge Durango Hellcat jailbreak in Destroyer."
The Challenger is a muscle car, meaning it’s built for strong performance and a sporty feel. The podcast is saying it still feels like a current, relevant model. It comes up in a discussion about performance cars that keep their appeal over time.
The Dodge Challenger is a muscle car that stays relevant through ongoing updates and special editions. The podcast says it “remains current,” and references a “Durango Hellcat jailbreak,” which suggests they’re discussing performance models and how they keep their appeal. It’s mentioned because it’s part of the broader conversation about modern muscle-car value and continuity.
Dodge Charger
"That's the same color I had in the charger. [444.0s] Destroyer, it's Battleship Grey. [445.3s] Yep, that makes sense. [446.5s] I was writing, I'm writing about the charger"
They’re talking about a Dodge Charger, which is a sporty Dodge car. They’re saying the color on the Charger is the same as the one on the Hellcat Durango.
The “Charger” is Dodge’s performance sedan line, often associated with the brand’s muscle-car heritage. In this segment, they’re comparing paint color between a Charger and the Dodge Durango Hellcat.
Battleship Grey
"Destroyer, it's Battleship Grey. [445.3s] Yep, that makes sense. [446.5s] I was writing, I'm writing about the charger [449.3s] that we talked about last show or last week"
“Battleship Grey” is a gray paint color description. They’re saying the “Destroyer” color is basically this kind of muted military-looking gray.
“Battleship Grey” is a descriptive paint color shade they’re equating to the Dodge color name “Destroyer.” It’s a common automotive/industrial way to describe a muted, military-style gray.
Fast and Furious
"Wow, because they sponsor Fast and Furious. That's where the partnership began."
Fast and Furious is a movie franchise about cars. They’re saying a sponsorship/partnership started there.
The hosts reference the “Fast and Furious” franchise as the context for a brand partnership. This is more of a pop-culture/marketing reference than a technical automotive topic.
Ferrari
"Right, like if you're an engineer, the dream is to like maybe work at Ferrari, right? Or Rivian, right?"
Ferrari is a famous car brand that also competes in racing. They’re using it as an example of a high-end dream workplace for engineers.
Ferrari is an Italian performance and racing brand. The hosts mention it as a “dream job” destination for engineers, connecting the idea of automotive engineering careers to top-tier motorsport companies.
Rivian
"Right, like if you're an engineer, the dream is to like maybe work at Ferrari, right? Or Rivian, right?"
Rivian makes electric vehicles. The hosts are just comparing it to other places engineers might want to work.
Rivian is an electric-vehicle brand known for trucks and SUVs. In this segment it’s mentioned as an alternative dream employer for engineers, alongside traditional performance brands.
HPD day
"as well as run, I wanted a practice car for the HPD day because I knew I would get limited seat time in the race car and all laps are good laps."
“HPD day” sounds like a driving event where you get time to drive cars on a track. The goal is to use your limited track time well by getting lots of laps.
“HPD day” refers to a high-performance driving event where participants get track time to drive cars in a more controlled, performance-focused setting. The key idea is that it’s about limited on-track sessions and maximizing useful laps.
seat time
"because I knew I would get limited seat time in the race car and all laps are good laps."
“Seat time” means how long you get to drive the car. On a track, more seat time usually helps you get better faster.
“Seat time” is the amount of time a driver actually spends behind the wheel during an event. In track contexts, more seat time usually means more learning, more confidence, and better lap consistency.
Road Atlanta
"So I was like, I had done the track hawk at Road Atlanta in back in 2019. And I was like, yeah, this thing can handle some track work."
Road Atlanta is a well-known race track in the U.S. They’re saying they’ve driven a similar car there before.
Road Atlanta is another major U.S. road course, known for technical corners and elevation changes. The speaker references it to describe prior track experience with a similar high-performance vehicle.
UConnect
"This is UConnect, right? This was, I think they had the best UI for years until Ford Sync caught up..."
Uconnect is the dashboard screen and software in certain Dodge/Chrysler vehicles. It controls things like navigation, media, and phone features, and the hosts are judging how easy it feels to use.
Uconnect is Chrysler/Stellantis’ in-car infotainment system, including the touchscreen interface, menus, and connectivity features. The hosts are comparing how the UI felt in the older car versus newer systems.
Ford Sync
"...I thought the UI was actually a little better in the old car than in the brand new. This is UConnect, right?... until Ford Sync caught up..."
Ford Sync is Ford’s infotainment and connectivity platform, including voice control, smartphone integration, and the touchscreen interface. Here, it’s referenced as the system that eventually caught up to Uconnect’s usability.
adaptive radar cruise control
"...they have on this steering wheel a button for the adaptive radar cruise control, which works well..."
Adaptive radar cruise control is cruise control that “reads” the traffic ahead. If the car in front slows down, your car can slow down too while still keeping your chosen following distance.
Adaptive radar cruise control uses a radar sensor to automatically adjust your speed to maintain a set distance from the car ahead. Unlike basic cruise control, it can slow down and speed back up as traffic changes.
non-adaptive cruise control
"for the non-adaptive cruise control."
Non-adaptive cruise control holds a fixed speed set by the driver, without automatically responding to the car ahead. If traffic slows, you typically have to brake or disengage cruise.
radar sensor
"But on the way up, didn't the radar sensor get covered? [755.3s] And so we actually had to switch two guns from missiles?"
Radar sensors are the car’s “distance detectors” that help it notice cars and obstacles ahead. If something covers or interferes with the sensor, the cruise feature may stop working.
A radar sensor is used to detect objects and measure distance and relative speed, which is critical for systems like adaptive cruise control. If the radar is blocked or contaminated, the system may disable itself or throw errors.
CEL sensor error
"[764.0s] It was a... [765.2s] Check, it was a CEL sensor error that happened. [769.9s] And I was like, that what we were about to be,"
CEL usually means the car’s warning light is on for an engine or emissions-related problem. Even if the issue is minor, it can sometimes cause other features (like cruise control) to shut off temporarily.
“CEL” typically refers to the Check Engine Light (or a related engine/emissions control warning). When a CEL-related sensor error appears, it can trigger safety/driver-assistance systems to disable—like adaptive cruise—until the fault clears.
adaptive cruise disabled
"because it said, you know, [775.8s] sensor error, adaptive cruise disabled, [780.0s] some lights set up."
“Adaptive cruise disabled” means the car decided it’s not safe to use that feature right now. After the problem goes away, it may start working again.
When adaptive cruise control is “disabled,” the car’s system has determined it can’t safely operate the feature—often due to sensor faults, calibration issues, or warning lights. The feature may return after the underlying error clears.
manual cruise button
"because it said, you know, [775.8s] sensor error, adaptive cruise disabled, [780.0s] some lights set up. [786.5s] Dodge is sending me a sign of this is why I put [789.7s] the manual cruise button right next to it."
The manual cruise button is for regular cruise control that holds a steady speed. If the car has a sensor problem, it might not let you use cruise at all, or it might only allow the simpler mode.
This refers to the car’s non-adaptive cruise control mode, which maintains a set speed without automatically adjusting for traffic ahead. If adaptive cruise is disabled due to a sensor fault, the car may still allow (or block) the regular cruise depending on the error.
regular cruise
"[794.9s] Cannot use, it didn't work. [797.6s] With the CEL up, the regular cruise didn't work either. [800.6s] Now, after we stopped somewhere"
Regular cruise control just keeps your speed steady. If the car detects a problem, it can sometimes turn off cruise control completely until the issue is resolved.
“Regular cruise” is the non-adaptive cruise control mode that keeps a chosen speed without radar-based following-distance control. In some fault conditions, the car may disable both adaptive and regular cruise until the warning clears.
hit the brakes
"How did you notice, Zach, in the race car and how at what speed you hit the brakes on the front straight of Road America? I think it was 130 something. 130 something?"
“Hit the brakes” just means when the driver starts braking hard. On a track, the timing of that moment is a big part of how fast you can go.
“Hit the brakes” refers to the moment the driver initiates heavy braking to slow the car for a corner or braking zone. In track talk, it’s used to compare braking confidence and stopping performance between vehicles.
front straight
"How did you notice, Zach, in the race car and how at what speed you hit the brakes on the front straight of Road America? I think it was 130 something. 130 something?"
A “front straight” is the long straightaway on the track where cars go fast before slowing down for the next turn. The faster you go down it, the more important braking becomes.
A “front straight” is the main straight section of a circuit where cars build speed before braking for the next corner. It’s relevant because the speed at the end of the straight determines how hard and how late the brakes must be applied.
stop way earlier
"I had to stop way earlier in the Durango than the race car, like hundreds of feet earlier. And I saw speeds that I believe were higher in the Durango than I saw in the race car most of the time."
“Stop way earlier” is track driving language for braking earlier and/or braking sooner to manage speed into a corner. It usually reflects differences in braking performance, grip, and how quickly the car can slow down safely.
orientation basics
"When we went out for the HPD stuff and like, you know, you were giving me orientation basics. I hadn't been here in 10 years, you know, through the corners in the back section,"
“Orientation basics” refers to getting a passenger up to speed on track layout and driving cues—where to brake, where the corners are, and what lines to follow. It’s common when someone hasn’t been on that circuit in years.
through the corners
"through the corners in the back section, we're getting caught by like a GTO car, which was like the most powerful car that was there."
“Through the corners” describes the driving phase where the car is turning and maintaining traction. On track, this is where differences in tires, suspension, and driver technique show up most.
straightaway
"Yeah. The straightaway shows up and you started gapping this thing. I couldn't catch you."
A “straightaway” is the section of track where the cars go mostly straight at high speed before braking for the next corner. It’s often where top speed and acceleration differences are most noticeable.
gapping
"The straightaway shows up and you started gapping this thing. I couldn't catch you."
“Gaping/gapping” means pulling away from another car by creating a growing time or distance gap. It’s a common racing term for showing that one vehicle is faster through a section or on straights.
cornering speed
"The difference in cornering speed is 60 miles an hour or something, but the handling of this thing..."
Cornering speed is the speed you can go through a turn without losing traction. Higher cornering speed usually means better grip and better handling.
Cornering speed is how fast a car can travel through a turn while maintaining grip and stability. The hosts use it to compare performance between cars, noting a large difference in how quickly they can carry speed through corners.
three-row vehicle
"The handling of this thing is for a three-row vehicle appropriate, right? The balance is actually pretty, pretty decent."
A “three-row vehicle” is typically a family-oriented SUV or minivan layout with seating for up to seven or eight people. The hosts are framing the handling and braking expectations around the added weight and size that come with this body style.
extra all seasonies
"It also had, I think, better tires. This had some like extra, extra all seasonies... They were not particularly sporty tires."
“All-season” tires are designed to work across a wide range of temperatures and weather, but they’re typically not as grippy as dedicated performance tires. The hosts note this car had extra all-season tires, which likely contributed to less sporty grip compared to the Trackhawk.
fluid boiled
"But yeah, the brakes, the fluid boiled on about the second stop. So Dodge list the brakes as just Brembo four-wheel disc."
When brake fluid “boils,” it means it reached its boiling point and formed vapor bubbles. Vapor compresses more than liquid, which reduces braking effectiveness and causes brake fade during repeated hard stops.
Brembo four-wheel disc
"So Dodge list the brakes as just Brembo four-wheel disc. And I think you were saying that the trackhawk has like 10 pistons."
This means the car uses disc brakes on all four wheels, and Brembo is the brake brand. They’re saying the brakes didn’t hold up well during repeated hard stops.
“Brembo four-wheel disc” describes a brake system using disc brakes on all four wheels, supplied by Brembo. The hosts are contrasting this spec with what they observed on track (brake fade from overheating) and with the Trackhawk’s more aggressive brake hardware.
10 pistons
"So Dodge list the brakes as just Brembo four-wheel disc. And I think you were saying that the trackhawk has like 10 pistons."
Those pistons are part of the brake caliper that squeeze the brake pads against the rotors. More pistons usually means stronger clamping and better stopping performance when you brake hard multiple times.
Brake “pistons” are the hydraulic pistons inside the caliper that clamp the brake pads onto the rotor. More pistons generally allow more clamping force and can improve heat handling and braking consistency during repeated stops.
beast brakes
"The trackhawk had the beast brakes. It had, it was like not quite Urus level brakes, but it was serious, serious business."
“Beast brakes” just means the car has upgraded brakes built for hard driving. The idea is they can stop strongly again and again without getting weak.
“Beast brakes” is a descriptive phrase for a very high-performance brake setup—typically larger rotors and more capable calipers/pads—meant to resist fade during repeated hard stops. The hosts use it to emphasize how serious the Trackhawk’s braking hardware is.
Lamborghini Urus
"... the beast brakes. It had, it was like not quite Urus level brakes, but it was serious, serious busine..."
The Lamborghini Urus is a luxury SUV that’s built to be very fast and capable. In the podcast, they’re comparing brake strength to what you’d expect from an Urus. That’s why it’s used as a reference point for performance.
The Lamborghini Urus is a high-performance luxury SUV that blends SUV practicality with supercar-level performance. The podcast references “serious” brakes and compares them to “Urus level brakes,” implying the vehicle being discussed had very strong stopping power. It’s mentioned because the Urus is known for being a performance-focused SUV.
pit
"you know, five hours later with Tato, just so he could show me some stuff cause the race cars having problems. He pulls out of pit, he brakes for turn one"
A “pit” is the area at a race track where cars enter to service during a session (or where teams stage for driver changes, adjustments, or repairs). The mention of pulling out of the pit indicates they’re describing track driving in a structured, timed environment.
turn one
"He pulls out of pit, he brakes for turn one"
“Turn one” means the first corner on the track. Braking for turn one is where you really test how strong the brakes are.
“Turn one” is the first corner on a race circuit, often the most heavily braked and most critical for getting the right line. The hosts mention braking for turn one to describe how the car performs under initial hard braking.
Aura Frames
"You can preload photos before the aura frames even ships... And so save on the gifts mom's love by visiting auraframes.com."
Aura Frames is a company that makes digital picture frames. You can send photos and videos to the frame remotely, even after it’s already at someone’s home.
Aura Frames is a brand of digital photo frames that let you upload and display photos/videos remotely. The hosts describe features like unlimited storage, preloading content before shipping, and adding media from anywhere.
Wirecutter
"It's named number one by Wirecutter. And so save on the gifts mom's love by visiting auraframes.com."
Wirecutter is a website that reviews products and tells people what it thinks is best. They’re being cited here to say Aura Frames is a top pick.
Wirecutter is a consumer product review site that publishes rankings and recommendations. In the segment, it’s used as a credibility claim for Aura Frames.
Carver Mat frame
"for a limited time listeners can get $25 off the best selling Carver Mat frame with code Tire."
Carver Mat frame is a particular digital picture frame product being promoted. The hosts say there’s a discount available for it.
The Carver Mat frame is a specific product line within Aura Frames’ offerings. The segment mentions a promo discount code for this product.
Delete Me
"Supports also coming in today from Delete Me. We love Delete Me over here because they make it quick, easy and safe"
Delete Me is a service that helps people remove their personal information online. The hosts mention it as a sponsor and say it’s easy to use.
Delete Me is a service brand referenced as a sponsor. The hosts say it makes removing personal information quick, easy, and safe.
temperature cycling
"The temperature cycling I think, yeah. Truly like you didn't do anything."
Temperature cycling means the brakes get hot, then cool down, over and over. If the parts aren’t built for that, the braking can feel weaker or inconsistent after repeated stops.
Temperature cycling is repeated heating and cooling of brake components during driving and braking. It can lead to brake fade, changes in pad/rotor behavior, and sometimes cracking or uneven wear if the materials can’t handle the thermal swings.
metallurgy
"It's like they needed the 10 piston and whatever the metallurgy was in the trackhawk is what we needed because you were being a trackhawk."
Metallurgy means the type and quality of the metal used in the brake parts. Some metals handle heat better, so the brakes keep working strongly even after lots of hard stops.
Metallurgy here refers to the material properties and heat-handling characteristics of the brake components (often rotors/pads/calipers). Better metallurgy can improve heat tolerance and reduce warping or performance drop during repeated braking.
pace lap
"The guy who was driving it for the pace lap, his name was Trucker, which is a great name. And he came back from running those pace laps just like, dude, what the fuck is this thing?"
A pace lap is a slower, controlled lap before the race really starts. It helps everyone get lined up and ready, and it can also help warm things up.
A pace lap is a controlled lap driven at a set speed to warm up conditions and get the field ready for the start. The host is describing the driver’s reaction after completing those laps in the pace vehicle.
hot rod
"It's a true hot rod. I would not recommend the Durango for actually running track days."
A “hot rod” is a car that’s set up to feel fast and fun to drive. Here, they mean the Durango feels more aggressive than you’d expect for a family vehicle.
A “hot rod” is a car that’s been modified or tuned for strong acceleration and an exciting driving feel. In this context, it’s used to describe the Durango’s surprisingly aggressive character despite being a family SUV.
track days
"I would not recommend the Durango for actually running track days. But if you never took it on a racetrack, you would find it to be a fairly dynamic"
“Track days” are events where drivers take their cars to a closed circuit to push them hard in a controlled environment. The speaker is saying the Durango isn’t the best choice if your goal is repeated, serious track use.
Genesis crossover
"that was essentially the same price as the Genesis crossover I had. But it's like 700 horsepower and three rows"
They’re comparing the Durango’s cost to a Genesis luxury SUV-style vehicle. A “crossover” is basically a family-friendly SUV that drives more like a regular car.
The speaker compares the Durango’s price to a Genesis crossover, implying a similar budget category. Genesis is a luxury brand, and “crossover” refers to a car type that blends SUV practicality with passenger-car comfort.
Hyundai Genesis
"that was essentially the same price as the Genesis crossover I had. But it's like 700 horsepower an..."
The Hyundai Genesis is a more upscale Hyundai vehicle line. The podcast is talking about a very powerful version, described as having around 700 horsepower. It comes up because it shows Genesis can be built for high performance, not just comfort.
The Hyundai Genesis refers to the Genesis brand/line of vehicles, positioned as Hyundai’s upscale offering. The podcast mentions “700 horsepower,” which indicates a performance-focused Genesis variant being discussed. It’s brought up because it’s an example of a high-power luxury car concept within the Genesis lineup.
horsepower
"But it's like 700 horsepower and three rows and can tow some stuff and all that."
Horsepower is a number that describes how powerful the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate more strongly.
Horsepower is a measure of engine power—how strongly the engine can produce work. When the speaker says it’s “700 horsepower,” they’re emphasizing how much acceleration potential the vehicle has.
three rows
"But it's like 700 horsepower and three rows and can tow some stuff and all that."
“Three rows” means there’s seating in the front, middle, and back. It’s how you get a bigger family-friendly SUV that can carry more people.
“Three rows” means the vehicle has seating for three rows of passengers, typically allowing up to seven or eight people depending on the configuration. The speaker is highlighting practicality alongside the high-performance theme.
tow
"But it's like 700 horsepower and three rows and can tow some stuff and all that. It's like a, I don't know, it's some sort of weird party."
To “tow” means pulling something behind the car, like a trailer. They’re saying this SUV can do that too.
To “tow” means pulling a trailer behind the vehicle. The speaker is pointing out that, despite being a high-power SUV, it can still handle towing tasks.
gas mileage
"Our gas mileage, I think we topped out at 16, but at times we were down to like 11 when we were in traffic."
Gas mileage tells you how far the car can go on a gallon of gas. They’re saying it gets worse when you’re stuck in traffic.
Gas mileage is how efficiently a vehicle uses fuel, usually expressed as miles per gallon (MPG). The speaker is contrasting best-case efficiency with worse real-world numbers in traffic.
in traffic
"but at times we were down to like 11 when we were in traffic. Well, we had ongoing bets going."
Driving “in traffic” usually means frequent stops and slow speeds, which can reduce fuel economy compared with steady highway driving. The speaker uses it to explain why their mileage dropped.
EPA cycle
"The EPA rated it at 16, I think we got 16.4. Which, I mean, considering we were definitely going faster than you'd go in the EPA cycle."
The EPA cycle is a standardized fuel-economy test that the government uses to estimate how many miles a car can go on a gallon. Your real results can be different, especially if you drive faster than the test assumes.
The EPA cycle is the standardized test procedure used by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to estimate a car’s fuel economy. Real-world driving often differs because factors like speed, traffic, and driving style aren’t identical to the test.
100 octane
"And in case you're wondering, [1575.6s] 100 octane here was 12. [1577.6s] So it's not like, you know, it's not like,"
Octane is basically how “hard to ignite” the gasoline is. Higher octane helps prevent the engine from pinging/knocking, especially when the engine is working hard.
“Octane” is a measure of a fuel’s resistance to knocking (premature combustion) in an engine. Higher-octane fuel is often recommended for high-compression or high-boost engines to help them run safely under load.
cumulative for the trip was like 12-4
"So we burned lots of gas and then on the way back, [1588.0s] we got the same, you know, mileage. [1589.7s] And so our cumulative for the trip was like 12-4."
They’re talking about the overall gas mileage for the entire drive, not just one stretch. The “12-4” number is their combined average for the trip.
“Cumulative” here refers to an overall fuel-economy figure for the whole trip, combining driving conditions rather than a single moment. The “12-4” style number is a shorthand for how many miles per gallon (or similar) the group averaged across the route.
USB-A
"Backseat's very comfortable. USB ports are still USB-A, they didn't cross over to see yet, you can bring your adapter."
USB-A is a common type of charging/data port with a rectangular plug. If your phone or device uses a different connector, you’ll likely need an adapter.
USB-A is the older, rectangular USB connector shape commonly found on cars and electronics. If your devices use a different plug (like USB-C), you may need an adapter to charge or connect them.
track mode
"Kind of bouncy. The ride wasn't great and in track mode, the ride was like brutally bad. Like I had, even when I went on the track,"
Track mode is a car setting meant for driving harder on a track. It usually makes the car feel tighter and more responsive, especially the suspension and driving controls.
Track mode is a driving setting that changes vehicle behavior for more aggressive use. It typically firms up suspension response and may adjust throttle, steering, and stability/traction settings to better suit circuit driving.
first sport mode for suspension
"The ride wasn't great and in track mode, the ride was like brutally bad. Like I had, even when I went on the track, I put it in first sport mode for suspension"
Sport mode is a selectable drive setting that alters how the car responds, and in this case it’s being used to control suspension behavior. “First sport mode” suggests there are multiple levels, with the lowest level still changing damping/firmness compared to normal driving.
curb
"[1659.1s] Use more curb. [1659.7s] Yeah. [1660.5s] Take a big line. [1662.2s] Go over the gray curb, we're not supposed to touch."
A curb is the raised edge along the side of the road. On a track, touching or riding over curbs can make the car bounce or feel unstable, so drivers pay attention to which curbs are safe.
A curb is the raised edge at the side of a road or track. Drivers often talk about curbs because hitting them can unsettle the car, and some curbs are designed to be safer to ride over than others.
big line
"[1659.7s] Yeah. [1660.5s] Take a big line. [1662.2s] Go over the gray curb, we're not supposed to touch. [1664.6s] Well, oh dude, so Ryan, the commentator for WRL,"
A “line” is the route a driver chooses through a turn. A “big line” usually means going wider through the corner instead of turning in tightly.
In racing, a “line” is the path the car takes through a corner. A “big line” typically means taking a wider arc—often to carry more speed or set up the next part of the track.
WRL
"[1662.2s] Go over the gray curb, we're not supposed to touch. [1664.6s] Well, oh dude, so Ryan, the commentator for WRL, [1668.8s] shout out to him. [1670.6s] Me and him were doing the radio"
WRL is mentioned as a racing group/series, and the speaker says someone is a commentator for it. The episode segment doesn’t explain what WRL is, so it’s worth clarifying for new listeners.
WRL is referenced as a racing-related group or series via “the commentator for WRL.” Listeners may want context on what WRL stands for and what kind of racing it covers.
cut a tire
"[1681.1s] You're not supposed to drive on those? [1682.8s] Well, the inside gray curbing is where most of them, [1686.0s] Tato was like, don't touch that or it could cut a tire. [1688.3s] And there's the outside gray curbing,"
“Cut a tire” means you damage the tire, usually by scraping it against a sharp edge. If it happens, the tire can lose pressure or fail.
“Cut a tire” means damaging a tire’s sidewall or tread by scraping it against something sharp, like curb edges or debris. It’s a common risk when tires contact curbing at speed.
Road America
"There's these weird extra curbing at Road America. So you could take a fucking big wide line, but it's like cinder blocks with grass growing through them."
Road America is a famous race track. The way the curbs are built there can change how the car behaves when you go wide or touch the edge of the track.
Road America is a well-known road course in the United States, famous for its long corners and elevation changes. Track-specific curb designs can strongly influence racing lines and how much grip you get when you run wide.
grip
"So you could take a fucking big wide line, but it's like cinder blocks with grass growing through them. So you can drive on them, but it's like 60% grip of the track, but it's way better than the vibratey curbing."
Grip is how well the tires can stick to the track. If you’re on a different surface—like curb material or grass—the car may slide more, so grip drops.
Grip is how well a tire can hold the road surface without sliding. On race tracks, grip varies by surface and by whether you’re on asphalt, curb material, or grass, which is why drivers talk about percentages of grip.
exit of 14
"[1764.7s] I like to do that, especially on the exit of 14. [1767.8s] Took a nice line there. [1769.3s] Oh yeah, I did that, yeah."
They’re talking about a specific spot on the track/road—“exit 14”—where they like to take a certain driving path. It’s basically a location reference for how they drive.
“Exit of 14” refers to a specific numbered exit on a road course or highway segment. The speaker is describing where they take a particular line through a corner/transition area.
fuel economy
"[1786.0s] But man, it's, despite the fuel economy being such shit, [1790.5s] I still think this thing at like nine years old"
Fuel economy is just how far the car can go on a tank of gas. If it’s bad, you’ll spend more money on gas and stop more often.
Fuel economy is how efficiently a vehicle uses fuel, usually measured as miles per gallon (MPG) or liters per 100 km. Lower fuel economy typically means higher operating costs and more frequent refueling.
Dodge Durango RT
"And if you got like just a regular RT, I think the towing rating on those is pretty damn good. Well, so the RT, because I looked at, this is part of our consideration package for towing, the RT has a higher towing rating than the Hellcat because of the self-leveling suspension and like the tow package option."
The Dodge Durango RT is a version of the Durango SUV. In this segment, they’re saying the RT can tow more because it can be set up with suspension and towing options that keep the vehicle more level when you’re pulling a trailer.
The Dodge Durango RT is a trim of the Durango that, in this discussion, is being compared for towing capability. The key point is that the RT can be configured with a tow package and self-leveling suspension, which helps it handle heavier trailers.
self-leveling suspension
"the RT has a higher towing rating than the Hellcat because of the self-leveling suspension and like the tow package option. With the sport suspension, it just like can't handle as much weight and it's not self-leveling."
Self-leveling suspension is a suspension system that automatically keeps the SUV from sagging when you’re towing or carrying a lot of weight. It helps the car stay more level and stable instead of squatting down.
Self-leveling suspension is a system that automatically adjusts the suspension height when the vehicle is loaded or towing. That helps keep the headlights, ride height, and trailer geometry more consistent, which can improve stability and allow higher towing ratings.
track mileage
"Hellcat can tow like 5,000 pounds and the RT tows 8,000 pounds. Imagine the mileage, like you're getting track mileage while towing something on the highway. That was terrible."
They’re using “track mileage” to mean “this feels like hard driving,” not just normal highway miles. The idea is that towing can wear things out faster because it’s such a heavy workload.
“Track mileage” is a colloquial way to describe how hard a car is being used—like driving aggressively or under sustained load—rather than literal miles. The point they’re making is that towing can feel like punishing use, which can be rough on the vehicle.
TRX
"There's gotta be someone who tows with a fucking TRX and can tell us what, I bet it's just terrible. And also, well towing with your Raptor back in the day was bad because it was so soft."
“TRX” is the name of a very powerful Ram pickup. They’re wondering how it feels when towing, because they’ve been talking about how towing can make trucks ride poorly.
“TRX” refers to the Ram TRX, a high-powered pickup truck. The hosts mention it as a vehicle that people might tow with, implying they’re curious whether towing performance and ride behavior are as bad as they’ve experienced with other trucks.
F-150 Raptor
"...s just terrible. And also, well towing with your Raptor back in the day was bad because it was so soft."
The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck used for work and everyday hauling. The podcast is talking about towing and how the ride felt “soft,” which made towing less ideal. It comes up because pickups are judged heavily by how they handle when loaded.
The Ford F-150 is a full-size pickup truck known for its versatility, towing capability, and wide range of configurations. The podcast mentions towing with a Raptor being “bad” because it was “so soft,” which points to ride/handling comfort under tow. It’s discussed because the F-150 family is often evaluated based on how it behaves when working, not just driving empty.
Raptor
"And also, well towing with your Raptor back in the day was bad because it was so soft. Now maybe the TRX has a better leveling system or something, but having that much squat, I did not enjoy it."
“Raptor” is a Ford pickup model known for off-road capability. They’re saying that when they towed with one, it felt too soft and didn’t handle the trailer weight well.
“Raptor” refers to the Ford F-150 Raptor, a performance-oriented off-road pickup. Here it’s used as an example of a truck that felt “soft” while towing, leading to uncomfortable ride behavior and noticeable suspension squat.
squat
"Now maybe the TRX has a better leveling system or something, but having that much squat, I did not enjoy it."
Squat is when the back of the vehicle sinks down when you’re pulling something heavy. In this segment, they’re saying too much squat made towing feel bad.
Squat is the rear suspension compressing and the vehicle lowering at the back under load, such as when towing a heavy trailer. Excess squat can make the ride feel unstable or uncomfortable and can affect vehicle geometry and handling.
Durango RT
"The, yeah, the regular, the regular Durango RT with the self-leveling would probably be a pretty good, pretty good tow rig actually."
The Dodge Durango RT is a sportier version of the Durango SUV. Here they’re saying it could work well for towing, particularly if it has suspension that helps keep the vehicle level when you hook up a trailer.
The Dodge Durango RT is a performance-oriented trim of the Durango SUV, aimed at stronger acceleration and a sportier setup than the base models. In this segment, it’s discussed as a potential tow vehicle, especially when equipped with self-leveling suspension.
Porsche Macan
"with a fucking Macan with a tow package on it. Like it was a Macan GTS with a tune with a tow package. And he said like, it would tow just fine."
The Porsche Macan GTS is a sportier Macan SUV. In this story, it’s being used as the towing vehicle because it has the right towing equipment and can handle the job.
The Porsche Macan GTS is a performance trim of Porsche’s Macan compact SUV, positioned between the standard models and the top performance variants. Here it’s specifically discussed as being set up with a tow package and used to tow a race car without major issues.
air suspension
"It had air suspension, like no big deal. Open trailer, not fancy. And he said it was about 4,500 pounds."
Air suspension uses air-filled springs to control how high the car sits. When you tow, it can help keep the vehicle level and ride smoother.
Air suspension uses air springs (instead of steel coils) to adjust ride height and sometimes stiffness. When towing, it can help maintain a level stance and improve ride quality over uneven roads.
Chevy Colorado
"and then I got rid of that and I got a Chevy Colorado. And he's like, and it sucks."
The Chevrolet Colorado is a midsize pickup truck. Here it’s brought up as the replacement towing vehicle that didn’t work out as well as the earlier setup.
The Chevrolet Colorado is a midsize pickup truck, often chosen for towing thanks to its truck-based chassis and available towing hardware. In this segment, the speaker contrasts it with the earlier towing setup, saying the Colorado “sucks” for towing despite having strong advertised power figures.
Ford Ranger
"[1937.0s] but the Colorado, the Bison one like versus [1940.8s] the Ranger Raptor, just having more cylinders. [1943.5s] It just feels more responsive."
The Ford Ranger Raptor is a tougher, sportier version of the Ranger pickup. They’re comparing its “feel” to the Hellcat, saying it doesn’t seem to push as hard as you’d expect.
The Ford Ranger Raptor is a performance-focused midsize pickup tuned for off-road use. Here, it’s being compared to the Durango Hellcat, with the host claiming the Ranger Raptor feels less responsive because the engine isn’t always working as hard.
extraneous radar
"[1970.4s] A lot of extraneous radar. [1973.2s] My Valentine too was going batshit out there constantly [1976.7s] for pretty much no real reason."
Extraneous radar is “unrelated” radar that still gets picked up by the detector. It can make the device beep or alert even when there’s no real enforcement nearby.
Extraneous radar means radar signals that aren’t coming from the source you care about (like a nearby speed camera). They can cause false alerts because the radar detector interprets them as relevant.
Valentine too
"[1973.2s] My Valentine too was going batshit out there constantly [1976.7s] for pretty much no real reason. [1979.9s] I wonder if they have sensors along the highway"
Valentine is a radar detector brand. The host is saying their detector was going off constantly, even when they didn’t think there was a real reason.
Valentine is a brand of radar/laser detection devices commonly used to alert drivers to speed-enforcement signals. The host says their Valentine unit was constantly alerting, implying it was reacting to non-threatening radar.
KA
"[1979.9s] I wonder if they have sensors along the highway [1981.6s] for something that are using KA. [1983.5s] Like KA's gotten so cheap that they use it for that"
KA is a specific radar frequency that some speed-detection systems use. The host is wondering if roadside sensors are transmitting on that frequency and causing the detector to alert.
KA refers to a radar frequency band (commonly “K-band” and “Ka-band” are used in speed enforcement). The host is speculating that highway sensors might be using Ka-band radar, and that it’s become cheap enough to deploy widely.
KA radar detectors
"Maybe we have to start researching if the effectiveness of KA radar detectors are somehow declining."
Police radar systems can transmit on different radio frequencies. “KA” is one of those frequencies, and a KA radar detector is designed to alert you when it detects that specific type of radar signal.
“KA” refers to a specific radar frequency band used by some police radar guns. Radar detectors are tuned to detect those frequencies, so “KA radar detectors” means detectors that listen for that band specifically.
PSI
"We probably could have dropped PSI a few, you know, but like whatever."
PSI means how much air pressure is in the tires. Changing it can affect how the tires feel and how quickly they wear out, especially when you drive hard.
PSI is tire pressure measured in pounds per square inch. Adjusting PSI can change tire wear and how the tires handle heat and load during track driving.
carousel
"Yeah, the carousel's hard on tires. That's probably really about it."
A “carousel” is a section of the track with a particular set of turns. They’re saying that part of the course makes the tires work harder and wear faster.
A “carousel” is a specific type of track corner sequence—often a set of sweeping turns—where tires can be loaded for long periods. The speaker says it’s especially hard on tires, implying sustained lateral grip and heat buildup.
lap times
"I'm sure that there's a difference in lap times, but it's like, it's not like the car became a sloppy piece of shit."
Lap time is just the clock time for one full lap around the track. If the tires wear out, the car usually can’t grip as well, so lap times tend to get worse.
Lap times are how long it takes a car to complete one circuit of a track. When tires degrade, lap times usually get slower because grip drops and the driver has to brake earlier or go slower through corners.
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