Ep 102: Mad Juke, 574 mile Merc and Kiaās Shock EV Kill!
About this episode
A lively Kilowatt Half Hour roundup mixes real-world EV ownership stories with fresh car news. Nicola and Mike trade impressions from multiple VW ID Cross events, while Mike says the Volvo EX30 has improved dramatically versus early launch carsāthough the button-light, menu-heavy UI and WiāFi setup still annoy. Sam reports smooth charging in France on a Kona, then digs into the Nissan Jukeās divisive styling. Other highlights include Tesla āsupervisedā approval in the Netherlands, Kia ending the e-Niro, and listener Q&A on EV tariffs, used EV picks, and charging voltage nerdiness.
Kilowatt Half Hour ā Episode 102: Mad Juke, 574-Mile Merc & Kiaās Shock EV Kill
Itās been another packed week in the fast-moving world of electric cars, and the Electrifying.com team are back to make sense of it all. Nicola, Mike and new presenter Sam Burnett settle in to chat through the latest EV headlines, what theyāve been driving, and answer your questions.
This week, thereās plenty to get stuck into ā from the newly revealed Nissan Juke and the (sort-of) approval of Teslaās self-driving tech in the Netherlands, to Kia making the surprising decision to axe one of its most successful electric models. Plus, thereās excitement around a Mercedes capable of a jaw-dropping 574 miles on a charge.
The team also share their latest drives, including the VW ID models, a long-term farewell to the Volvo EX30, and a cross-channel EV trip in a Hyundai Kona Electric.
As always, listeners are at the heart of the show. Thereās advice for a soon-to-be Polestar 2 owner choosing the right home charging tariff, guidance on picking a used EV for mixed driving needs, and some fascinating real-world efficiency data from the community.
Add in your comments on pothole-proof cars, infotainment frustrations, and app reliability ā plus a few laughs along the way ā and youāve got another lively half hour of EV chat.
Plug in, turn up, and enjoy the ride.
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VW ID Cross
"So I've been on a busy one. I've been on date number four with the VW ID Cross. Oh, my God. We go again. This was a studio walk-around this time."
Volkswagenās ID Cross is an electric car conceptābasically a preview of what the company wants to build next. When they say they ādrove the concept,ā it usually means a prototype thatās close to the real idea, even if itās not the exact final production car.
The Volkswagen ID Cross is an electric concept/preview vehicle in the ID family, used to show Volkswagenās design and technology direction. In EV coverage, āconceptā typically means it may not be a final production spec, but it hints at future styling, packaging, and powertrain choices.
concept
"We go again. This was a studio walk-around this time. So now we've done a studio walk-around of the concept, then drove the concept, then broke it, and then drove the covered version,"
A āconceptā car is like a preview of a future model. It may not be exactly what youāll buy, but it shows the direction the brand is heading.
In automotive media, a āconceptā car is a prototype or design study that previews future vehicles. Itās often used to gauge public reaction and to demonstrate new styling, interior packaging, and sometimes new EV systems before a production version exists.
Volvo EX30 cross-country
"And the Volvo EX30 cross-country is departing on Friday. So I spent the weekend cleaning it and clearing out life, really, out of it."
Volvoās EX30 is an electric SUV. āCross Countryā means a version meant to feel more rugged, like itās ready for rougher roads. The host is mainly comparing how it drives and feels day to day.
The Volvo EX30 is a compact electric SUV, and āCross Countryā refers to a more rugged, higher-stance style/trim. In this segment, the host is talking about living with it briefly and how it drives compared to other EX30 variants.
all-wheel-drive
"And we drove the all-wheel-drive one, which is what this is. And Ginny had driven the rear-wheel-drive one, I think the week before."
All-wheel drive means the car can send power to both the front and rear wheels. That usually helps it grip better when roads are wet or messy. It can also make the car feel different when you steer or accelerate.
All-wheel drive (AWD) sends power to more than one axle, typically improving traction and stabilityāespecially on slippery or uneven surfaces. In EVs, AWD can also change steering feel and how the car behaves during acceleration and lane changes.
rear-wheel-drive
"And Ginny had driven the rear-wheel-drive one, I think the week before. And we had one of those things where he said, what do you think about it?"
Rear-wheel drive means only the back wheels get power. That can change how the car feels when you turn or accelerate compared with an all-wheel-drive version. The hosts are using this comparison to judge the EX30ās driving feel.
Rear-wheel drive (RWD) powers only the rear axle, which can make steering and balance feel more ānaturalā or predictable for some drivers. Comparing RWD vs AWD on the same model helps isolate how drivetrain layout affects steering response and stability.
development cycle
"But yeah, the all-wheel-drive one, I think may have been pushed back in the development cycle because it just wasn't ready."
A development cycle is the schedule for building and testing a car before itās ready. If a version is pushed back, it might not be fully tuned yetāso it can feel unfinished, especially in how the steering responds.
A development cycle is the planned timeline of engineering, testing, and refinement before a car is finalized. The host suggests the AWD EX30 may have been delayed in development, which can lead to early-drive impressions like vague steering, reduced feedback, or a ānot quite finishedā feel.
steering was like on the kind of 80s console games where there's no feedback
"The steering was like on the kind of 80s console games where there's no feedback or anything. So it felt really, really light. It kept wanting to jump out of the lane."
The host is talking about steering feelāwhether the wheel tells you what the tires are doing. If it feels too light or numb, it can make the car harder to place precisely in a lane. Theyāre comparing that sensation to an old video game controller.
This is a description of steering āfeelā (feedback)āhow much the driver senses through the wheel about grip, road texture, and front-end response. If steering feels light, vague, or like it lacks resistance, it can indicate calibration issues (e.g., assist tuning) or that the chassis/controls arenāt fully dialed in.
jump out of the lane
"So it felt really, really light. It kept wanting to jump out of the lane. It felt really, really unfinished."
The host means the car didnāt stay centered and seemed to drift with minor steering changes. That can make it feel less confident on the road. Itās often related to how the steering and tires are set up.
āJump out of the laneā describes a stability/centering sensation where the car doesnāt track smoothly and instead wants to drift or wander with small steering inputs. That can be influenced by steering calibration, tire setup, alignment, and driver-assist systems (depending on how theyāre configured).
fog light
"But a lot of the stuff that we flagged up on the launch to say, look, why have you got to go through three menus to get to the fog light? That kind of thing."
Fog lights are extra lights meant to help you see better in bad weather. The hosts are complaining about how hard it is to turn them on because the controls are buried in menus.
Fog lights are auxiliary headlights designed to improve visibility in poor weather like fog, heavy rain, or mist. The discussion here is about usabilityāhow many steps it takes to reach the fog-light control.
pre-production
"Don't worry. This is just an early development of the... Pre-production. All we fix by the time the customers get it, it'll be on the front screen."
Pre-production means an early version of the car thatās built to test things before the real customer cars start rolling out. It may have changes or missing features compared to what youād get later.
Pre-production cars are early builds made before full customer production. Theyāre used to validate design and software, and they often differ from final carsāsometimes noticeablyāuntil fixes are applied.
wireless system
"Yeah, it's still got all of those things. And Vicky hadn't activated the wireless system. So the fact that it wasn't, you couldn't use the embedded Google Maps..."
The wireless system is how the car connects to the internet and your phone without plugging in. If itās not turned on, some online features (like maps) may not work.
A wireless system in a modern car typically refers to connectivity features like WiāFi, cellular data, and phone pairing. Here, itās mentioned as something that wasnāt activated, which then limits navigation and other connected features.
embedded Google Maps
"So the fact that it wasn't, you couldn't use the embedded Google Maps or part of the infotainment system to navigate if you didn't connect your phone."
Embedded Google Maps is navigation that lives in the carās screen. The hosts are saying it might not work unless the car has the right connection/data set up.
Embedded Google Maps means the navigation app runs inside the vehicleās infotainment hardware/software rather than only on a phone. The segment highlights that it may require a phone connection or data service to work properly.
infotainment system
"So the fact that it wasn't, you couldn't use the embedded Google Maps or part of the infotainment system to navigate if you didn't connect your phone."
The infotainment system is the carās main screen and controls for things like music and navigation. Here theyāre saying some navigation features depend on connectivity.
An infotainment system is the carās touchscreen/controls that handle media, navigation, phone integration, and settings. In this segment, itās specifically tied to navigation features like embedded maps.
free Wi-Fi
"So you haven't activated your free Wi-Fi yet. Why not do it now? So it says, cost you nothing. All you need to do."
Free WiāFi means the car can provide an internet connection for you. The hosts are saying you have to activate it (often through an app) before the carās online features will work.
Free WiāFi in a car usually means the vehicle provides internet access via cellular connectivity for a limited time or as part of a promotion. The segment suggests the feature is tied to an account/app activation step and may be required for certain connected services.
phone re-connecting / pairing after the car "disconnects everything else"
"What I didn't realise was it kind of disconnected everything else. So you had to go through that kind of whole song and dance of connecting your phone again."
Sometimes when a carās connection settings change, it stops talking to your phone. Then you have to reconnect it so features like music, maps, and messaging work again.
This describes a common connected-car workflow issue: after a connectivity change (or a system update), the car may drop existing phone connections. That forces the driver to go through the pairing process again so the car can regain access to apps, contacts, media, and navigation integration.
charging
"So I find charging in France is actually really, really good. And even if you find like a random charger in the middle of nowhere, they tend to charge at the full speed that they claim that they do."
Charging is how you refill an EVās battery at a public station. The important part is whether the charger actually delivers the fast speed it promises.
In EV driving, āchargingā refers to adding electrical energy to the battery using public chargers. The key variables are charger power (kW), whether itās fast charging, and how consistently the station delivers the advertised speed.
Dodge Charger
"... really good. And even if you find like a random charger in the middle of nowhere, they tend to charge at..."
The Dodge Charger is a car model made by Dodge. Itās often used as a sporty, performance-focused sedan. The podcast mentions it because itās something you might come across while traveling and it relates to charging availability.
The Dodge Charger is a full-size American sedan thatās known for strong performance and a sporty driving feel. In a podcast about EV charging, itās mentioned in the context of finding one āin the middle of nowhereā and still being able to charge, which points to its relevance as a charging destination or compatible vehicle setup. It may come up because itās a common model people encounter during travel.
random charger
"And even if you find like a random charger in the middle of nowhere, they tend to charge at the full speed that they claim that they do."
Sometimes you stop at a charger you didnāt plan to use, and it might be slow or not work well. Theyāre saying that in France, even those chargers usually work as expected.
A ārandom chargerā highlights the variability EV drivers can face when travelingāsome stations under-deliver or are unreliable. The hosts are emphasizing that even non-planned chargers in France tend to perform close to their advertised charging rates.
charge map card
"I have, I've got this little card, like a charge map card, and I can just swipe it on anything in France and it lets me charge, which is brilliant."
A charge card helps you pay to charge at lots of different EV stations. Itās basically a single way to access many charging networks without juggling multiple apps.
A ācharge map cardā is a roaming access card used to start charging on many different networks. Instead of needing a separate app or account for each operator, the card typically authorizes you to use compatible chargers across a region.
Volkswagen Egolf
"But the, we got, we had an e-golf like back in 2019, and the infrastructure in France was terrible."
The e-Golf is Volkswagenās electric Golf. When EV charging networks arenāt great, it can be harder to charge reliably on trips.
The āe-Golfā is Volkswagenās all-electric version of the Golf. It was an early mainstream EV, and its real-world usability depended heavily on charging network coverage and reliability at the time.
air con off
"because we would air con off and everything, but it's improved so much since then."
Air conditioning uses battery power in an EV. Turning it off can help the car go farther on a single charge.
Turning āair con offā is a common EV range-management tactic because cabin heating/cooling draws power from the battery. In hot weather, reducing HVAC load can improve efficiency and help you reach the next charger.
press car
"[491.0s] And then it turns out it was Wookie's long-term a car, [493.8s] I was a press car. [495.0s] I was like, oh, okay."
A āpress carā is a car that a company gives to media so they can review it. Itās usually not the ownerās personal car, and itās often used for a short period. The host is saying the DS they saw had been used for press coverage before.
A āpress carā is a vehicle provided to journalists or media outlets for evaluation and coverage. Itās often loaned by the manufacturer or PR team, and it may be driven for limited mileage under specific terms. In this segment, the host clarifies that the car they saw was previously used as a press vehicle.
head to head
"So last week we were filming at the barn. [531.0s] And we were, that's incorrect. [532.1s] So we put them head to head. [536.3s] And as soon as Sam turned up,"
Theyāre saying they compared two cars directly, back-to-back. That way, itās easier to tell whatās actually different about each car instead of blaming the situation. Itās like testing two things under the same conditions.
āHead to headā means comparing two cars directly under the same conditions. This is a common way to evaluate differences in feelālike steering response, ride comfort, and overall usabilityābecause it reduces variables. For listeners, itās a reminder that impressions are more meaningful when the comparison is controlled.
efficient
"And it's so slow. It's really efficient."
Theyāre basically saying the car doesnāt feel quick, but it doesnāt waste much energy. So it can go farther on the electricity it uses.
When the speaker says the car is āso slowā but āreally efficient,ā theyāre contrasting performance with energy use. Electric vehicles can feel slower if they have less power or softer tuning, yet still be efficient if they manage energy well and keep consumption low.
miles per kilowatt hour
"It's really efficient. I've got 4.7 miles per kilowatt hour out of it."
This is how efficiently an electric car uses electricity. If you get more miles from the same amount of power, the car is being more efficient.
āMiles per kilowatt hourā (often written as mi/kWh) is an efficiency measure for electric cars. It tells you how far the car can travel on one unit of electrical energy, so higher numbers generally mean better real-world efficiency.
eco mode
"Were you driving at eco mode or what the hell were you doing? I only drive in eco mode, Nikola."
Eco mode is a setting that helps your car use less energy. It usually makes the car respond more gently when you press the accelerator, so you can go farther on a charge.
āEco modeā is a driving setting that reduces energy use by changing throttle response, limiting power output, and sometimes adjusting HVAC behavior. On an EV, itās meant to extend range by making acceleration less aggressive and smoothing power delivery.
Normal mode
"I think that's just eco mode. Normal mode."
Normal mode is the regular driving setting. Itās usually less focused on saving energy than eco mode, so the car feels more responsive.
āNormal modeā is typically the default driving profile that doesnāt aggressively prioritize efficiency. Compared with eco mode, it usually allows quicker throttle response and more immediate power delivery.
wasteful mode
"And then there should just be wasteful mode and even more mindful mode. Yeah, waste it."
Theyāre joking about a mode that uses more energy. If a car has a āsportierā setting, it usually makes acceleration more aggressive, which can drain the battery faster.
āWasteful modeā is a joking way to describe a more aggressive driving profile that uses more energy. In EVs, this would generally mean sharper throttle response and less limitation on power, which can reduce range.
EV range anxiety / range-saving behavior
"What's the point in having an EV if you're not going to put your foot down and enjoy winning at every traffic light? ... even get out and push away from the lights just to save a bit of electricity."
The segment highlights how EV drivers manage range by changing driving style and even behavior around charging and acceleration. It also points to the extreme end of efficiency habitsālike minimizing energy use at stoplightsāto stretch the remaining miles.
BMW i3
"I love the fact that my i3 had what was referred to as a Polo 13 mode, which is, you know, it's just kind of like nothing on."
The BMW i3 is an electric car. When the battery is nearly empty, it can switch into a special āsave powerā mode that turns off things you donāt need and limits acceleration so you can still make it home.
The BMW i3 is an electric car known for having a āPolo 13 mode,ā which is a battery-saver strategy used when range is extremely low. It reduces power and shuts off non-essential systems to help the car stretch the remaining charge to reach a destination.
Polo 13 mode
"a Polo 13 mode, which is, you know, it's just kind of like nothing on. It's like that when they're floating around in space when they're about to switch everything off to survive."
āPolo 13 modeā is an emergency power-saving setting for an electric car. It cuts back on power and turns off energy-hungry features (like heat) so the battery lasts long enough to get you to safety or a charger.
āPolo 13 modeā is a tongue-in-cheek name for an extreme low-range power-saving mode. On the BMW i3, it can shut off systems like cabin heating, limit throttle output (so you canāt demand full power), and generally reduce electrical load to preserve battery energy.
restricts the throttle to like half power
"It literally kind of turns everything off, the heating off. It restricts the throttle to like half power."
When an EV is running out of battery, it may limit how hard you can accelerate. That āthrottle restrictionā helps the car use less electricity so you can go farther.
Limiting throttle output is a common EV strategy in low-battery modes. By capping how much power the driver can request, the car reduces peak current draw, which helps extend range and prevents the battery from being stressed when charge is critically low.
run it to completely to its death and it does just completely stop
"But there is the added bonus that I learned from doing the El Pri a couple of years ago that if you do run it to completely, to its death and it does just completely stop, turn the car off, wait for 10 minutes,"
Theyāre talking about what happens when you push a car until itās basically out of usable energy and it stops. Then they mention turning it off and waiting, which can help the car reset so it may start again.
The hosts are describing what happens when a car is driven until it effectively runs out of usable energy (or fuel/charge) and then shuts down. This is a real-world test of how the carās systems behave at the edge of range and how quickly it can be restarted after a shutdown.
turn the car off, wait for 10 minutes
"to its death and it does just completely stop, turn the car off, wait for 10 minutes,"
They suggest turning the car off and waiting a bit before trying again. That can give the carās computers time to reset, which sometimes makes the restart work better.
Waiting after a full stop is essentially a āresetā strategyāturning the car off allows some electronic control modules to power down and reboot cleanly. In EVs especially, this can affect whether the car will accept a restart after a near-zero state event.
running from the 12 volt
"That's not running from the main battery. But if you do get stuck in the middle of nowhere, you can just kind of turn it back on again"
If the big battery is too low, the car may switch to using the small 12-volt system to keep certain functions going. Itās not enough for full driving, but it can help you reach a charger.
The idea here is that an EV can provide limited āget you to a chargerā functionality by switching to low-voltage power rather than drawing from the main traction battery. This is essentially an emergency/limp mode strategy to extend usability when the main battery is too low for normal operation.
VW
"So one of them that I also want to mention as well while we're here is the VW event... fair play to VW. They've thrown some money at this big time."
VW is Volkswagen, and theyāre putting a lot of effort into EVs right now. The episode is basically saying theyāre backing it with real money and big events.
VW (Volkswagen) is investing heavily in EV programs and events to build awareness and momentum for its electric lineup. The hostās comments about āthrowing some moneyā frame VWās marketing and product push as a major factor in the EV scene.
VW event
"So one of them that I also want to mention as well while we're here is the VW event... there was so many cars there and they turn it into a massive, massive event."
This part is just the hosts talking about a Volkswagen event they went to. They mention the ID Cross and how big the event was.
This segment is about a Volkswagen event the host attended, including a drive with the ID Cross and the scale of the gathering. Itās a structural āwhat we covered this weekā moment rather than a technical deep dive.
Hamburg
"Well, it was up in Hamburg, right?"
Hamburg is a city in Germany. The host is saying the VW event took place there.
Hamburg is referenced as the location of the VW event, which matters because VW has deep ties to Germanyās automotive industry and logistics hubs. For listeners, it signals the eventās āreal-worldā scale and European focus.
electric vehicle lineup presentation
"And then you turn up at this warehouse and then there was like a whole presentation or whatever and they were showing off the cars that are coming out soon"
Theyāre describing a big car reveal event where multiple upcoming EVs are shown in one space. Itās like walking through a themed display that highlights each model.
The hosts describe attending a warehouse-style event where Volkswagen showcased upcoming electric cars on display. This is essentially a product reveal formatāusing staged āshopsā and screens to present multiple models at once.
Mercedes EQS
"Talking of big, we've got the EQS, Ginny to the walk around of the Mercedes EQS, which is 574 miles WLTP range. I mean, every week there's like another 60, 70, 80 miles added to the next game change."
The Mercedes EQS is an all-electric Mercedes car. Theyāre talking about how far it can go on a full charge, and how bad weather can make that number drop. Even after that drop, they think most people could still manage their daily trips.
The Mercedes EQS is a fully electric luxury sedan from Mercedes-Benz. In this segment, theyāre focusing on its real-world usability by discussing its WLTP-rated range and how weather can reduce it. The takeaway is that the EQS is positioned as a long-range EV for everyday driving.
WLTP range
"Ginny to the walk around of the Mercedes EQS, which is 574 miles WLTP range. I mean, every week there's like another 60, 70, 80 miles added to the next game change. But that is, you know, let's say that realistically, you chop 100 off for bad weather."
WLTP range refers to the vehicle range measured under the Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicles Test Procedure. Itās a standardized lab test, so real-world range can be lower depending on speed, temperature, wind, and driving style. The hosts explicitly model this by āchoppingā range for bad weather.
range drop for bad weather
"But that is, you know, let's say that realistically, you chop 100 off for bad weather. That's still 470 miles of range, which surely that's got to be enough for most people, isn't it?"
Electric cars often lose range in cold or harsh conditions because the battery and cabin heating require more energy, and tires may be less efficient. The hostsā āchop 100 off for bad weatherā is a practical way to translate a test-cycle range into a more realistic expectation. This is a key concept for EV ownership planning.
six-figure sum
"That's still 470 miles of range, which surely that's got to be enough for most people, isn't it? I mean, it's going to be a six-figure sum, isn't it?"
A āsix-figure sumā means the purchase price is likely over 100,000 in the local currency being discussed. For high-end EVs like the Mercedes EQS, this frames the cost barrier and helps listeners understand why range and features are being emphasized. It also hints at the market positioning: premium pricing for long-range tech.
EV
"I only drive electric if it can do 700 miles."
EV stands for electric vehicleācars powered primarily by electricity stored in a battery. The discussion is about consumer expectations for EV range and charging practicality, which is a major part of EV adoption.
social media defensiveness
"You know, my social media half, everyone's very defensive... It's a strange hill to die on, isn't it?"
Theyāre basically saying people get overly defensive online about things they donāt like. Instead of discussing the facts, it turns into an argument just to push back.
The hosts describe how online communities can become defensive about topics they disagree with, turning debates into āa hill to die on.ā In car culture, this often shows up as people arguing about fuel choice or EVs even when the practical specs improve.
Nissan Juke
"But also out on Electrifying this week is the Nissan Juke... What don't you like about it? ... It's like they've just gone, let's just add every possible line imaginable"
The Nissan Juke is a small crossover SUV from Nissan. Here, the hosts are arguing about how the car looksāwhether its styling is fun and distinctive or just too busy.
The Nissan Juke is a compact crossover known for its bold, quirky styling. In this segment, the hosts debate its design choicesāespecially the front end and side stylingāsuggesting the carās look is intentionally busy rather than clean and simple.
Electrifying this week
"But also out on Electrifying this week is the Nissan Juke. Let's discuss, please, because I feel like we're all going to have different feelings about this."
This phrase sounds like the podcastās weekly theme. It means theyāre talking about electric or electrified cars this week.
āElectrifying this weekā is a segment framing device, implying the show is focusing on electric or electrified vehicles. It helps listeners understand that the Nissan Juke being discussed is part of an EV-related news roundup rather than a general car review.
Renault 4
"Do you know what they should have done? They should have got a Renault 4 and stuck a Nissan badge on it. And then they would have been a winner."
The Renault 4 is a classic, boxy small car from Renaultās history. The hostās point is that the Jukeās styling could have been more successful if it leaned into a retro, simple shapeāthen used Nissan branding to create a āwinnerā look.
Mini Countryman
"I think the first thing I thought when I saw it, it looks like someone's taken a potato peeler to the side of a mini countryman. That's pretty good."
The MINI Countryman is a small crossover SUV. Theyāre basically saying the car theyāre looking at has a similar overall shape, but with a very different, more aggressively sculpted side design.
The MINI Countryman is MINIās larger, crossover-style model. In this segment, the hosts use it as a visual reference point to describe how the subjectās side profile resembles a āpared downā or reshaped Countryman-like form.
invisible to radar
"I think the bonus side is it's invisible to radar. That's going to be, I think you'll just be able to zoom past a speed camera and it will just bounce off at all angles."
āInvisible to radarā refers to reducing how well a vehicle can be detected by radar-based systems. In practice, this is usually about shaping surfaces and using materials/geometry that scatter radar energy away from the source, which can reduce detection range or tracking quality.
speed camera
"I think you'll just be able to zoom past a speed camera and it will just bounce off at all angles. Nice."
A speed camera is a device that checks how fast cars are going. Depending on the type, it may use radar or laser to measure speed.
Speed cameras are enforcement systems that measure vehicle speed, often using radar or laser. The hosts are discussing how the carās design might affect the cameraās ability to measure or track the vehicle.
faceted look
"It's a faceted look, isn't it? I think that's the word they tend to use. A glimpse on the sunlight."
A faceted look means the carās body panels are shaped with sharp angles instead of smooth curves. That makes the car catch the sunlight differently as you drive by.
A āfaceted lookā describes bodywork with angular, multi-plane surfacesālike facets on a gemstone. This kind of styling can change how light reflects off the car, giving it a more dramatic, shifting appearance as you move.
controversial thing
"I don't think it's different. I think Duke's always been controversial thing, hasn't it? You know, it's never been what you'd described as a conventional looker."
āControversialā here just means people donāt all agree on the styling. Some will think it looks cool or unique, while others will think itās too weird or not attractive.
When a design is described as ācontroversial,ā it usually means itās polarizingāsome people love the styling while others dislike it. In automotive terms, this often comes down to how unconventional the exterior proportions, surfaces, or aerodynamics appear compared to mainstream designs.
Tesla full self-driving
"Well, the big... It's not a big story. I mean, people who care about this thing, they really care about this sort of thing. Tesla full self-driving has been approved in the Netherlands."
āFull self-drivingā refers to Teslaās driver-assistance and autonomy software package, which aims to automate more driving tasks than basic cruise control. Approval in a specific country (here, the Netherlands) typically means regulators have allowed broader use under defined conditions. Listeners should treat it as software with limitations and requirements, not a guarantee of fully autonomous driving at all times.
Supervised autonomy (driver monitoring)
"[1172.4s] But it has been approved... [1187.8s] They've spent 18 months driving Teslas around and making sure they don't crash into things... [1192.4s] But really what it is, it's just fancy cruise control."
Some cars can do a lot of the driving, but they still need you to pay attention. If the car gets confused, youāre the backup plan.
Supervised autonomy is the idea that the car can perform driving functions while the human remains responsible for safety. The āsupervisedā part typically implies driver monitoring and a requirement to intervene when the system reaches its limits.
Full self-driving supervised
"[1179.4s] Full self-driving supervised has been approved by the Dutch authorities... [1192.4s] But really what it is, it's just fancy cruise control."
Itās a Tesla feature that helps the car drive, but itās not āset it and forget it.ā You still have to watch the road and be ready to take control if the system canāt handle something.
āFull self-driving supervisedā refers to Teslaās driver-assistance system that can handle more driving tasks, but still requires the driver to supervise and be ready to take over. In this segment, the hosts emphasize that itās not truly autonomous, despite the āfull self-drivingā wording.
Teslas
"[1187.8s] They've spent 18 months driving Teslas around [1190.2s] and making sure they don't crash into things... [1212.6s] So, I mean, the Tesla thing, you're allowed..."
Theyāre talking about Tesla cars being tested for driver-assistance features. Even with advanced tech, the driver still has to supervise and be ready to take over.
The segment references āTeslasā being used in a long approval/testing process. Tesla is known for driver-assistance systems that can steer and control speed on certain roads, but they still rely on driver supervision rather than true autonomy.
fancy cruise control
"[1190.2s] and making sure they don't crash into things. [1192.4s] Right. [1193.1s] But really what it is, it's just fancy cruise control."
Even if it feels like the car is driving itself, many systems are still basically advanced cruise control. They work best in certain situations and you still have to watch closely.
The hosts use āfancy cruise controlā to describe advanced driver-assistance features that can steer/accelerate in limited conditions, but are still fundamentally not full autonomy. Itās a reminder that these systems usually depend on lane markings, mapping, and driver supervision.
take your hands off the steering wheel
"[1205.5s] on certain roads that will let you take your hands off the steering wheel [1208.4s] like on a roller coaster."
The system may allow the driver to remove their hands, but youāre still expected to stay alert. Itās usually only permitted on certain roads and in certain situations.
This describes hands-free operation under specific conditions where the system is allowed to control steering while the driverās responsibilities remain active (often via monitoring). Approval language varies by region and road type, so āhands offā doesnāt always mean āeyes off.ā
motorway
"[1208.4s] like on a roller coaster. [1210.4s] And then it will drive along the motorway."
A āmotorwayā is basically a highway. Driver-assistance systems often work best there because the lanes and driving conditions are more consistent.
āMotorwayā here means a high-speed controlled-access highway where driver-assistance systems are often permitted to work more reliably. Many hands-free or semi-autonomous features are tuned for these road types due to consistent lane markings and predictable traffic flow.
put your hands back on the steering wheel
"And then you just get told to put your hands back on the steering wheel, right? So they're just telling you you don't have to bother putting your hands back on."
This refers to ādriver monitoringā and āhandoverā requirements in advanced driver-assistance systems. Even when the car can assist steering or driving, regulations and system design require the driver to remain ready to take over immediately.
sensors in the car
"Well, there are sensors in the car, so they'll be watching you. So they've explicitly said to the Dutch"
Some cars have sensors that watch you while you drive. They can tell if your hands are on the steering wheel and whether youāre paying attention.
Modern driver-assistance systems use in-cabin sensors to monitor the driverās attention and hands-on behavior. These sensors can include cameras and/or capacitive touch systems that detect whether your hands are on the wheel.
regulatory
"Presumably only inner Tesla that's been approved and had all this regulatory. Yeah, I wouldn't do it in any other car."
Different countries have different rules about how much a car is allowed to drive by itself. Those rules can affect whether youāre required to keep your hands on the wheel.
āRegulatoryā here points to government rules that govern how driver-assistance features are allowed to work. Approval can determine whether a system can be used without hands-on monitoring, and under what conditions.
foiling with the little things in the gutters
"āIt's like when you go foiling with the little things in the gutters. Just sort of bounce along the motorway.ā"
Theyāre using a funny comparison to describe bouncing along the road edge instead of driving smoothly in the lane. Itās basically about how the car behaves when the tires arenāt on the ideal surface.
This is a metaphor for riding close to the edge/raised areas (like gutters) and ābouncingā along rather than driving normally. In an automotive context, it hints at how vehicle stability and suspension behavior change when youāre not on a clean, flat lane surface.
Kia E-Niro
"āWe've got one that's disappearing. The Kia E-Niro is disappearing.ā"
The Kia E-Niro is an electric Kia Niro. Itās a popular EV crossover, and the hosts are talking about how itās been a big seller for Kia in the UK.
The Kia E-Niro is Kiaās electric version of the Niro crossover. Itās part of the brandās early EV push in Europe, and itās often discussed in terms of how much volume it helped Kia build in the UK EV market.
EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1
"āBut now, with the arrival of EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1,ā"
Those names are Kiaās plan for multiple new electric cars. The point is to offer EVs in different sizes and price ranges so more people can afford one.
āEV3,ā āEV2,ā and āEV1ā are Kiaās naming scheme for upcoming electric models at different size/price tiers. The idea is to broaden the lineup so buyers can choose an EV that fits their budget and needs, rather than relying on one or two models.
Kia EV3
"...huge chunk of that. But now, with the arrival of EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1, there's no home for i..."
The Kia EV3 is an electric car model thatās being talked about as part of Kiaās next generation of EVs. The podcast mentions it because it changes what other electric models are meant to do in the lineup. Itās essentially about where EV3 will fit for buyers.
The Kia EV3 is discussed as part of Kiaās expanding electric vehicle lineup, alongside EV2 and potentially EV1. In the podcast context, itās mentioned as the arrival of EV3 that changes where other EV models āfit,ā implying EV3 is expected to take over a role in the lineup. Itās relevant because it affects how buyers choose between different EV sizes and categories.
General Motors Ev1
"...ow, with the arrival of EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1, there's no home for it because it doesn't reall..."
The General Motors EV1 was an electric car made by GM. It was one of the earlier EVs, before electric cars became more common. The podcast mentions it because newer EV plans are taking its place.
The General Motors EV1 was an early, purpose-built electric vehicle from GM, created when EVs were still relatively rare. The podcast suggests it no longer has a āhomeā because newer EV programs (EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1) are coming, implying the EV1 is being phased out in the lineup or replaced by newer models. Itās discussed as a historical reference point for GMās EV efforts.
Kia EV2
"...chunk of that. But now, with the arrival of EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1, there's no home for it bec..."
The Kia EV2 is an electric car model mentioned alongside other EVs like EV3. The podcast says that when EV3 comes out, EV2 may not have a clear place in the lineup. In simple terms, itās about how Kiaās EV options may be reorganized.
The Kia EV2 is referenced in the podcast as part of a set of upcoming or planned EV models (EV3, EV2, and potentially EV1). The key point in the discussion is that with EV3 arriving, there may be āno homeā for EV2 in the lineup, meaning it could be squeezed out by the new modelās role. Itās brought up to explain how product planning affects whatās available to customers.
EV efficiency expectations vs lineup changes
"It was a really economical thing as well, wasn't it? It was kind of, I think everybody expected efficiency to kick on... But in fact, the cars that replaced them were the same. If not worse..."
Theyāre talking about how people expect newer electric cars to use less energy and go farther. But theyāre saying the newer Kia/Hyundai options theyāre comparing didnāt actually deliver the efficiency gains people hoped for.
The hosts discuss a common EV-market expectation: that when one model is replaced by another, efficiency (range and energy use) should improve. They argue that in this case, the replacements were āthe sameā or even worse, despite the new cars being positioned as progress.
Kia Kona
"...everybody expected efficiency to kick on when things like the car you've got as well, the Kona and the Niro E-Niro, disappeared."
The Kia Kona is a small crossover. This episode is talking about its electric version and how it used to be a good, practical EV choice before newer options replaced it.
The Kia Kona is a compact crossover that has been offered in electric form (often discussed alongside other EVs in Kiaās lineup). In this segment, the hosts mention it as part of a previous āsensibleā EV option set that later got replaced.
Hyundai Ioniq 5
"...when I got my Ioniq 5, I was thinking, well, you know, I know the car that was replacing is very good. So the Kona's really good. So the Ioniq 5 is going to be even more when it wasn't. It was even worse."
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is an electric crossover. The host is basically saying that they thought the newer car would be even better than the one it replaced, but in practice it didnāt end up being more efficient.
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is a modern electric crossover that the host uses as a personal example of how expectations about āreplacementā models and efficiency didnāt play out as hoped. The key point is that even though the Ioniq 5 is a strong EV, the overall trend the hosts are discussing is that newer replacements werenāt necessarily more efficient.
ride-hail/cab fleet effect on car image
"But there are too many mini cab drivers in London... every driver with an app has a Niro... and I feel like they've killed the image."
Theyāre talking about how if lots of the same car show up as taxis or ride-share vehicles, it can make that car feel less cool or less unique. Itās more about reputation and popularity than the carās actual quality.
This segment discusses how ride-hailing and taxi fleets can dominate a modelās presence in a city, changing public perception. When a car becomes āthe default cab,ā it can feel less desirable to buyers who want something that signals individuality.
Toyota Prius
"And that's what they did with the Prius as well, didn't they? Like, no one bought Prius anymore because everyone was a cabbie."
The Toyota Prius is a hybrid car thatās been around for a long time. The point theyāre making is that when a car becomes super common as a taxi/ride-share vehicle, it can feel less special.
The Toyota Prius is a well-known hybrid model that became strongly associated with taxis and ride-hailing in some markets. The hosts use it as an example of how a popular car can lose its ācool factorā when it becomes ubiquitous as a cab.
Tesla Model 3
"I mean, you get a lot of Teslas. They're all in Model 3s around here."
The Tesla Model 3 is an all-electric car. Theyāre saying they see a lot of them around, especially in the context of ride-share/cab usage.
The Tesla Model 3 is Teslaās mass-market electric sedan. The hosts mention seeing many of them in their area, highlighting how ride-hailing and urban commuting can concentrate certain EV models.
Polestar 2
"I've been absolutely besotted with the Polestar 2 since its launch... It's a dual motor Polestar 2 in black on a 71 plate with only 26,300 miles on the clock, which is good."
Polestar 2 is an all-electric car. āDual motorā means it has two electric motors, which usually helps it feel quicker and can provide better traction than a single-motor setup.
The Polestar 2 is a battery-electric compact sedan from Polestar (a Volvo/Geely-backed EV brand). In this segment, they specifically mention a dual-motor version, which typically means power is split between two electric motors for stronger acceleration and all-wheel-drive behavior.
dual motor
"It's a dual motor Polestar 2 in black on a 71 plate with only 26,300 miles on the clock, which is good."
āDual motorā means the car has two electric motors. That usually helps the car launch harder and grip the road better, especially in slippery conditions.
A dual-motor EV uses two electric motors to drive the wheels (often front and rear). This can improve acceleration and traction, and it also allows more flexible torque distribution compared with single-motor setups.
tariff to switch to
"Now comes another choice to make. Which tariff to switch to... I've got no solar or batteries as yet and I've opted to go with a hyperbolic tariff."
EV ātariffsā are electricity pricing plans that can change the cost of charging depending on time of day and how you use power. If you donāt have solar panels or home batteries, your charging strategy and the planās rate structure matter a lot for total cost.
British gas
"I'm tied in with British gas until later this year. So going with their EV tariff to begin with."
British Gas is an energy company. Here, theyāre relevant because the podcast is talking about which electricity plan (tariff) to use for charging an EV.
British Gas is a UK energy supplier, and in this context theyāre being used as the provider for an EV-specific electricity tariff. The key point is that different suppliers and plans can materially change charging costs for an EV owner.
EV tariff
"So going with their EV tariff to begin with. Any inside info as to which tariffs would be good in our situation."
An EV tariff is a special electricity pricing plan for people who charge an electric car. It can offer cheaper charging times, which helps reduce your overall fuel/charging cost.
An EV tariff is an electricity pricing plan designed for electric vehicle charging, often with time-based rates or dedicated charging windows. The plan can be especially important when you donāt have solar or a home battery, because you rely more on the grid for charging.
EcoTriesty
"So the cheapest I could find was EcoTriesty on a two year fixed contract, which is 23p for a peak."
EcoTriesty is an electricity company the hosts are using as an example of a cheaper charging tariff. Theyāre comparing its price to other providers to show how much you could save.
EcoTriesty is mentioned as an electricity provider offering an EV-related tariff with a stated peak rate. The point is to compare provider pricing structures to find the cheapest plan for your charging schedule.
peak vs off-peak electricity rates
"So the cheapest I could find was EcoTriesty on a two year fixed contract, which is 23p for a peak. Whereas on British gas, you're paying over 31 pence peak. But if you want to find out what the latest and the best deals are on tariffs..."
Electricity can cost more at busy times (āpeakā) and less at quiet times (āoff-peakā). When you charge your EV, your savings depend on whether youāre paying peak or off-peak prices.
Peak vs off-peak rates describe how electricity costs change depending on the time of day. EV charging strategies often focus on charging during off-peak windows to reduce cost, but if you charge during the day, peak pricing becomes the key number.
Zappi charger
"we just on my Zappi charger, you put it on eco plus, then it literally just trickles straight from the solar."
A Zappi charger is a special home charger for EVs that can use your solar power first. In Eco+ mode, it tries to charge using the sunās energy instead of pulling as much from the grid.
Zappi is a solar-aware EV charger that can route power based on your solar generation. In āEco+ā mode, it prioritizes using excess solar energy and can ātrickleā power when solar output is low.
eco plus
"you put it on eco plus, then it literally just trickles straight from the solar."
Eco+ is a charger setting that tries to use solar power first. If the sun isnāt producing much, it may charge more slowly or pause to avoid using grid electricity.
āEco+ā is a charging mode on Zappi chargers designed to maximize solar usage. It typically charges only when thereās enough excess solar available, which can reduce electricity costs and grid draw.
basic air trim
"...still with the remains of the Kia seven year guarantee and their basic air trim."
Trim is the package of features a car comes with. āAirā here means this used Kia still has a certain equipment level, so itās not the most stripped-down version.
āTrimā refers to the equipment level a car is sold with, and āAirā is likely a specific Kia model grade that bundles certain features. When buying used, the trim matters because it determines what you get (comfort tech, infotainment, styling, and sometimes driver-assist features).
Kia seven year guarantee
"...still with the remains of the Kia seven year guarantee and their basic air trim."
This is Kia offering a long warranty/coverage period for several years. The point is that youāre not just buying the carāyouāre also getting peace of mind for a long time.
A āseven year guaranteeā is Kiaās long coverage promise tied to ownership, typically aimed at reducing buyer risk. In EVs, these warranties often cover key components (commonly including the battery and/or drivetrain), which can materially affect total cost of ownership.
A272
"...it'll be quite enjoyable along the A272... But A272, that's not your neck of the woods, isn't it?"
Theyāre talking about how the car would feel on a particular road (the A272). Itās basically a real-world route example, not just a test track.
The A272 is a specific road route, and the hosts use it as a stand-in for how the car feels on a particular kind of driving. Mentioning a real road helps listeners map the carās comfort and drivability to their own routes.
Kia EV6
"Well, I mean, straight away, Mark, I'm a big fan of the EV6... I think the EV6 is a fantastic car... However, the EV6 is a cracking car."
The Kia EV6 is an all-electric Kia crossover. The hosts are basically saying itās a really good EV to live with and drive, not just a tech demo.
The Kia EV6 is Kiaās electric crossover thatās known for strong real-world usability and a modern, efficient powertrain. In this segment, the host calls it a āfantasticā and ācrackingā car, suggesting it fits the listenerās driving needs and is enjoyable on the road.
Mazda Mx5
"I was in a Mazda MX-5 and I was absolutely ambushed by a humpback bridge coming around the corner. All four wheels left the road..."
The Mazda MX-5 is a small, fun roadster thatās built to handle well. The story is basically about how even a car that feels confident can get into trouble if the road surprises you and the tires lose grip.
The Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive roadster known for nimble handling and driver-focused steering. In this segment, itās used to illustrate how quickly a road hazard can overwhelm a car when traction is lost.
humpback bridge
"I was in a Mazda MX-5 and I was absolutely ambushed by a humpback bridge coming around the corner."
A humpback bridge is basically a bump in the road that makes the car go up and then down. If you hit it at the wrong timeālike while turningāit can reduce tire grip and make the car feel like itās slipping.
A humpback bridge is a road surface that rises and then dips, creating a sudden change in pitch. That kind of geometry can unload tires and reduce grip, making traction loss more likely when cornering or hitting it unexpectedly.
All four wheels left the road
"All four wheels left the road and I had about eight minutes to contemplate my life and my career flashing before my eyes."
If all four tires leave the road, the car can suddenly stop behaving normally because thereās no grip. Bumps and dips can make it happen fast, which is why it feels terrifying in the moment.
When all four wheels leave the road, the driver can lose traction and stability immediatelyāespecially over uneven surfaces like a humpback bridge. Itās a vivid example of how road geometry and sudden elevation changes can overwhelm even a capable car.
Ford Mustang
"[1777.9s] I think that would be a nice little car to have. [1780.3s] Mustang Mach-E, fun to drive. [1783.1s] That's true. We always forget about that car, don't we?"
The Mustang Mach-E is Fordās electric SUV/crossover. Theyāre saying itās enjoyable to drive, even if they donāt always think of it first.
The Ford Mustang Mach-E is Fordās electric crossover, often praised for its driving feel and mainstream practicality. Here, the hosts highlight it as āfun to drive,ā then note they sometimes forget about it compared with other EVs.
traffic jam efficiency (EVs)
"[1813.0s] That's the one thing. I keep telling my friends, [1814.8s] since I started driving electric, [1816.2s] I absolutely love a traffic jam because it's so good for regions. [1821.0s] Yeah, you crave a 50 mile an hour zone."
Theyāre talking about how electric cars can feel better in heavy traffic. When youāre constantly slowing down and speeding up, the car can recapture some energy instead of wasting it.
The hosts are discussing how EVs can do relatively well in stop-and-go driving because frequent slowing and re-acceleration can be supported by regenerative braking. They even joke that they ālove a traffic jamā because itās āso good for regions,ā tying it to how EV energy use behaves in slower conditions.
ID3
"I've done 29,300 miles and an ID3 with 19-inch hours doing all those miles."
The ID.3 is a Volkswagen electric car. Here, the person is sharing how efficiently it uses electricity in everyday driving so others can compare real-world results.
The ID.3 is Volkswagenās electric hatchback from the ID family. In this segment, the listener is using their ID.3ās real-world efficiency to help the showās spreadsheet, which is a practical way to compare EVs beyond official test numbers.
19-inch hours
"I've done 29,300 miles and an ID3 with 19-inch hours doing all those miles."
ā19-inchā is the size of the wheels. Bigger wheels can make the car use a bit more energy, so efficiency can drop compared with smaller wheels.
ā19-inchā refers to wheel size, which can affect EV efficiency because larger wheels and tires often have more rolling resistance. Rolling resistance influences how much energy the car needs to keep moving, especially at highway speeds.
45 miles per gallon
"whenever we didn't have the figures for the fuel consumption, it was always 45 miles per gallon."
Miles per gallon (mpg) is how far a gas or diesel car can go on one gallon of fuel. The host is saying that in the past, they used a rough default number when they didnāt have the real fuel-economy data.
Miles per gallon (mpg) is a fuel-economy measure used for gasoline and diesel cars. The speaker mentions ā45 mpgā as a default placeholder when fuel-consumption figures werenāt available, highlighting how EV efficiency metrics (mi/kWh) and fuel metrics (mpg) are often handled differently in reporting.
crowd-sourced one
"[1917.1s] But if we have a sort of crowd-sourced one, I think that seems to be the plan, [1920.5s] we're going to try and get some realistic figures from our podcast."
Instead of one person collecting all the numbers, theyāre asking lots of people to submit their own data. That can make the results feel more like real life.
A ācrowd-sourcedā spreadsheet means theyāre collecting data from many listeners instead of relying on the hosts to compile everything themselves. In automotive contexts, this can help build more realistic real-world figures like fuel economy or ownership costs.
Hyundai Kona
"I'm 35,000 miles in my Hyundai Kona. I've got 4.6 miles per kilowatt hour."
The Hyundai Kona is a small crossover. In EV form, people track how efficiently it uses electricityāhow far it can go for each unit of power.
The Hyundai Kona is a compact crossover thatās offered in EV form (and also as a gas model). In the EV version, efficiency is often discussed in terms of energy use per distance, like miles per kilowatt-hour.
800 volt chargers
"that it could only charge at 800 volt chargers. And he implied, we implied there weren't many abouts, but this is true for chargers installed before 2022"
800-volt chargers are a newer type of fast charger for EVs. They can charge some cars faster, but not every EV can use them the same way, and not every charger location has them.
800-volt charging refers to EV fast-charging systems that use a higher electrical voltage to deliver power more efficiently. Many modern EVs can use 800V charging to reduce charging time, but if a car is limited to 800V stations (or prefers them), it may charge more slowly or be incompatible with older 400V infrastructure.
InstaVolt
"He says, a pleasant surprise for his EV6 recently at an InstaVolt, but it did send him down as really nerdy rabbit hole."
InstaVolt is a UK EV charging network brand. The segment references an InstaVolt site to illustrate how an EV with the right voltage architecture can extract more power from high-power chargers. Itās essentially a real-world example of the charging behavior being discussed.
400 volt chargers vs 800 volt cars
"I would say for me, the principle is that you shouldn't have to pay extra to charge on 400 volt chargers on the slower ones. To me, that, I'm outraged."
Some electric cars use a lower-voltage battery system (often called 400V), and others use a higher-voltage system (often called 800V). The higher-voltage cars can usually charge faster on the same fast charger. The host is upset that charging prices donāt always reflect the slower charging experience for 400V cars.
Charging performance differs between 400V and 800V EVs because the carās voltage affects how much current it can draw safely and efficiently. On the same charger, a 400V car may be limited to lower effective power, while an 800V car can often reach higher power levels. The hostās complaint is about pricing fairness when slower chargers are used.
800 volt system
"...because obviously it's got the same 800 volt system and it's only when I Googled it..."
Many EVs use high-voltage electricity. An 800-volt setup can help the car take in more charging power quickly, so fast charging can feel faster when the charger supports it.
An ā800 volt systemā refers to an EVās high-voltage electrical architecture. Higher voltage can reduce current for the same power, which can enable faster charging and thinner cabling, assuming the battery and charger support it.
equal rabbit hole
"...and it's only when I Googled it and went down the equal rabbit hole to us to find out that that was actually the reason why."
A ārabbit holeā is when you start looking something up and end up learning a lot more than you planned. Here, theyāre using that to figure out why the charging rate was higher than expected.
āRabbit holeā is a metaphor for going deep into research once you find a confusing detail. In EV charging discussions, it often means tracing the reason behind charging behavior (like voltage architecture) by looking up technical explanations.
good cars for terrible roads
"Because last week on the podcast, [2116.4s] we were talking about good cars for terrible roads [2121.5s] and the script, it's worded slightly differently..."
Some cars feel more comfortable and controlled on bad roads. That usually comes down to how the suspension and tires deal with bumps and potholes, so you donāt get bounced around or lose grip as easily.
This segment is about how some cars handle rough, pothole-filled roads better than others. Factors often include suspension compliance, tire sidewall and tread, steering/bushing durability, and braking stability over uneven surfaces.
terrible roads and potholes test location
"might I suggest either rural Romania [2136.7s] or better still eat Sussex as the test location now. [2144.1s] I can vouch for this... [2165.4s] And it's one of those roads that's 40 mile an hour..."
The host discusses using specific regions (rural Romania and Sussex) as a ātest locationā for evaluating how cars cope with poor road surfaces. Itās a practical way to frame real-world durability and ride/handling performance rather than using a single track or ideal pavement.
dynamic chassis control
"A good choice for poor road is any Volkswagen group car with dynamic chassis control, which DCC, which is the name that Volkswagen, Skoda and Cooper say at use."
This is a system that changes how the car feels while you drive. You can pick different modes, and the car adjusts things like suspension behavior so the ride can feel softer or sharper.
Dynamic Chassis Control is an umbrella term for electronically managed suspension and driving-mode behavior. On Volkswagen Group cars, it typically lets you switch between different calibration āsettingsā (like Comfort vs Sport) that change how the car responds to steering, throttle, and road conditions.
DCC
"with dynamic chassis control, which DCC, which is the name that Volkswagen, Skoda and Cooper say at use. You get 15 settings from a loping French back road to ouch."
DCC is the acronym for Dynamic Chassis Control as used by Volkswagen Group brands. Itās commonly paired with selectable driving modes that alter suspension damping and related vehicle behavior across multiple settings.
Skoda
"which is the name that Volkswagen, Skoda and Cooper say at use."
Skoda is a car brand owned by the same group as Volkswagen. So some features and tech can be very similar across brands.
Skoda is another Volkswagen Group brand that uses similar chassis-control technology and naming. The transcript suggests DCC is available across multiple group brands, not just Volkswagen-badged cars.
Cooper
"which is the name that Volkswagen, Skoda and Cooper say at use."
The host is listing brands that use this same kind of adaptive chassis system. The exact brand name in the transcript sounds a bit off, but the takeaway is feature availability across brands.
āCooperā is likely referring to MINI (a brand often discussed alongside Volkswagen Group tech in enthusiast circles), but the transcript wording is ambiguous. The key point is that the same DCC-style system naming/feature is shared across multiple brands.
Plymouth GTX
"... I-77. And you can air rock and standard on some GTX and BRS versions."
The Plymouth GTX is an older, performance-focused car made by Plymouth. It was offered in different versions, and some had different equipment. The podcast mentions it while talking about which options were available on certain GTX trims.
The Plymouth GTX is a classic performance car from the muscle-car era, known for being offered in higher-performance trims. The podcast references āair rock and standard on some GTX and BRS versions,ā which points to specific equipment or configuration options tied to certain GTX variants. Itās discussed because enthusiasts often talk about how these cars were built and what features came with particular versions.
selectable driving modes
"You think, oh, this is great. And then you think you press Sport, and then you press Comfort. And you think, I didn't really notice any difference."
Many cars let you choose modes like Sport or Comfort. Those modes adjust the carās behavior, but sometimes the change is smaller than you expect.
Selectable driving modes (like Sport vs Comfort) change how multiple vehicle systems are calibratedāoften including steering feel, throttle mapping, and suspension damping. The hosts are discussing a common real-world issue: sometimes the differences can feel subtle depending on the car and how the system is tuned.
Land Rover Defender
"...d Rover would struggle with. He does have a 2023 Land Rover Defender 90 on air suspension, so he knows what he's talk..."
The Land Rover Defender is an SUV designed for off-road driving. The ā90ā is a shorter version, and āair suspensionā means the suspension can adjust to help the ride over rough ground. The podcast brings it up to explain how well it can handle difficult roads.
The Land Rover Defender is a rugged off-road SUV built for tough terrain and durability. The podcast specifically references a 2023 Defender 90 with air suspension, which is relevant because air suspension can help the vehicle handle uneven roads and adjust ride height. Itās discussed as a benchmark for what this kind of vehicle can manage.
Land Rover Defender 90
"He does have a 2023 Land Rover Defender 90 on air suspension, so he knows what he's talking about."
The Land Rover Defender 90 is a tough, off-road-focused SUV. With air suspension, it can smooth out bumps and potholes better than many regular suspensions.
The Land Rover Defender 90 is the shorter-wheelbase version of the Defender, known for rugged off-road capability. In this segment itās specifically mentioned with air suspension, which can help manage rough roads by adjusting ride height and compliance.
air suspension
"He does have a 2023 Land Rover Defender 90 on air suspension, so he knows what he's talking about."
Air suspension uses air bags instead of metal springs. It can change how soft or firm the ride feels and can help the car absorb bumps more comfortably.
Air suspension uses air-filled springs instead of steel coils, allowing the vehicle to adjust ride height and damping characteristics. On rough roads, that adjustability can help reduce harsh impacts from potholes and uneven pavement.
mini countryman SE
"However, I find my mini countryman SE on the 19 inch wheels handles the potholes really well."
The MINI Countryman SE is a MINI that can run on electricity part-time (itās a plug-in hybrid). Theyāre saying it still handles rough potholes well, even with bigger wheels.
MINI Countryman SE refers to the plug-in hybrid version of the Countryman. Here itās used as a comparison point for ride quality over potholes, specifically with 19-inch wheels.
19 inch wheels
"However, I find my mini countryman SE on the 19 inch wheels handles the potholes really well."
Bigger wheels usually come with tires that have less ācushionā sidewall. That can make potholes feel harsher, but this speaker says their setup still rides well.
Wheel size affects ride comfort because larger wheels typically mean shorter sidewall tires, which can transmit more impact over potholes. In this case, the speaker notes that despite the 19-inch wheels, the MINI Countryman SE still feels good over rough sections.
EV weight blamed for potholes
"that basically people are blaming the weight of EVs because of the amount of potholes and how bad they are this year. But then at the same time, you go abroad, we go abroad all the time,"
Some people think EVs make potholes worse because theyāre heavier. The hosts argue that itās more about how well roads are maintained in each country than about EVs themselves.
The hosts discuss a claim that heavier EVs cause more road damageāspecifically potholesābecause EVs add mass to the pavement. They counter that road quality varies by country and maintenance practices, suggesting the real driver is how roads are managed rather than EV weight alone.
Volvo A40G
"This is from Mike Farmer, 82, who says, a good vehicle for the pothole roads is a Volvo A40G,"
A Volvo A40G is a big construction truck meant for rough, uneven ground. The point of mentioning it is that itās built to deal with bad roads that would beat up normal cars.
The Volvo A40G is a heavy-duty off-road articulated dump truck (an āA40ā series) designed for tough jobsite conditions like rough ground and pothole-riddled routes. Itās the kind of vehicle that can handle damage-prone surfaces better than typical passenger cars because of its construction and intended use.
industrial excavator
"Had to look this up. It's an industrial excavator used in Paris. I typed it into Google, because I thought, have I missed something?"
An industrial excavator is a big machine used for construction work like digging and moving dirt. Itās not a normal street vehicle, but it can still be interesting to talk about like a āvehicleā because itās so capable.
An industrial excavator is heavy construction equipment designed for digging, moving earth, and demolition work. When someone brings one up in an automotive context, it usually means theyāre talking about a vehicle-like machine thatās āfunā or surprising rather than a road car.
suboptimal roads
"NZR1 from YouTube says, I switched to 18-inch wheels, because the roads near me are suboptimal."
āSuboptimal roadsā just means the roads arenāt greatāmaybe bumpy, cracked, or uneven. Your tires and wheels can make a big difference in how smooth and safe the car feels there.
āSuboptimal roadsā is a practical way of describing rough, uneven, or poorly maintained pavement. It matters because tire choice, wheel size, and suspension tuning can dramatically change comfort, traction, and wheel/tire damage risk.
18-inch wheels
"We also got towed off according to 18-inch wheels, small, because they're not to a, you know, like 15-16 inches small, for a lot of cars that used to be anyway."
Bigger wheels usually mean the tire sidewall is shorter. That can make the ride feel firmer, especially over bumps.
Wheel size is often discussed alongside tire size because they work as a matched system. An 18-inch wheel typically pairs with lower-profile tires than smaller wheels, which can change ride comfort and impact harshness.
low-profile tires
"So why are car manufacturers so obsessed with large wheels and low-profile tires?"
Low-profile tires have less ācushionā because the tire wall is shorter. They can feel more precise, but bumps can feel worse.
Low-profile tires have shorter sidewalls, which generally improves steering response and reduces tire squirm. The tradeoff is less cushioning, so the ride can feel harsher and more sensitive to potholes.
harder tires for economy
"EVs need harder tires for economy,"
For better efficiency, tires are often made to roll with less resistance. That can help range, but the ride may feel firmer and grip can be different.
āHarderā tires usually means a tire compound tuned for lower rolling resistance, which helps improve fuel economy or EV range. The downside is they can feel less compliant and may offer less grip or comfort than softer, stickier tires.
small wheels with fat tires
"but I'm tempted to use small wheels with fat tires for improved comfort."
Bigger wheels usually mean shorter, stiffer tire sidewalls. Smaller wheels with wider tires often ride softer because the tire can flex more over rough roads.
Using smaller wheels with wider āfatā tires changes the tireās sidewall height. That typically improves ride comfort because the sidewall flexes more over bumps and potholes.
big wheels
"I guess we have big wheels on stuff. Designers, it looks better to some people. You know what they say about cars with big wheels?"
Big wheels often come with thinner tires. They can look cool, but they donāt absorb bumps as well, so potholes can be harder on the tires and rims.
āBig wheelsā usually refers to larger wheel diameters paired with lower-profile tires. The tradeoff is sharper steering feel and a sportier look, but less cushioning and higher risk of damage from potholes/curbs.
expensive tires
"You know what they say about cars with big wheels? Yeah, expensive tires, yeah. More like it's a pothole damage?"
When you go to bigger wheels, the tires that fit them can cost more. The exact size and tire style matter a lot for price.
Larger wheel sizes commonly require lower-profile tires, which can be more expensive and sometimes harder to find in the exact spec. Tire cost also rises if the car uses a performance-oriented tire type or unusual sizing.
pothole damage
"More like it's a pothole damage? Yeah, nice. Yeah, that's exactly the gag I was going for."
Hitting a pothole can hurt your tires and rims. Cars with low-profile tires have less cushion, so the impact is more likely to cause flats or bent wheels.
Potholes can damage wheels and tires, especially with low-profile tires that have less sidewall āgive.ā Impacts can cause tire punctures, sidewall tears, or wheel bends that may lead to vibration and alignment issues.
press pack
"But it didn't come with a press pack, so I have no idea. You know it's written on the tires, Sam."
A āpress packā is a bundle of materials provided to mediaāoften including specs, brochures, and sometimes tire/wheel information. Without it, the exact wheel/tire sizing may not be obvious until you check the tire sidewall.
written on the tires
"You know it's written on the tires, Sam. How is it? Yeah, I'll check."
Tires have numbers and letters printed on the sidewall. Those markings tell you the tire size, so you can figure out what wheels/tires the car is actually running.
Tire sidewalls include the tire size and construction details (e.g., width, aspect ratio, wheel diameter). Checking this is the most reliable way to confirm wheel/tire specs when you donāt have the original documentation.
Dodge Avenger
"Yeah. It says, consider the Jeep Avenger for bad roads. I rented one this past weekend, a..."
The Dodge Avenger is a car model made by Dodge. The podcast mentions it while talking about what kind of vehicle to use on rough roads. Itās brought up in the same conversation as a rental choice.
The Dodge Avenger is a mid-size sedan thatās been referenced in the context of choosing a vehicle for ābad roads.ā In the podcast, itās part of a discussion about what to rent or drive when road conditions are rough, even though the specific recommendation mentioned is for the Jeep Avenger. The Avenger name comes up as a point of comparison in that rental/road-conditions conversation.
bad roads
"[2566.8s] It says, consider the Jeep Avenger for bad roads. [2568.9s] I rented one this past weekend, a petrol, sadly. [2573.4s] And the ride over speed bumps and potholes was its only [2576.5s] redeeming feature."
āBad roadsā is a practical test of how a vehicleās suspension and tires cope with impacts and uneven surfaces. When hosts mention speed bumps and potholes, theyāre essentially evaluating ride quality and complianceāhow much the car absorbs bumps without feeling harsh or unstable.
Jeep Avenger
"[2566.8s] It says, consider the Jeep Avenger for bad roads. [2568.9s] I rented one this past weekend, a petrol, sadly. [2571.8s] You're no longer allowed to watch these. [2573.4s] And the ride over speed bumps and potholes was its only [2576.5s] redeeming feature."
The Jeep Avenger is a small Jeep crossover. Theyāre talking about how comfortable it feels when the road is bumpyālike over speed bumps and potholesāand whether itās a good choice for bad roads.
The Jeep Avenger is a small crossover from Jeep aimed at urban driving. In this segment, the hosts discuss using it on rough roads and how it handles speed bumps and potholes, implying ride comfort is a key part of the conversation.
petrol
"[2566.8s] It says, consider the Jeep Avenger for bad roads. [2568.9s] I rented one this past weekend, a petrol, sadly. [2571.8s] You're no longer allowed to watch these."
āPetrolā just means gasoline. Theyāre pointing out that their rental was the gas version, not the electric one.
āPetrolā refers to gasoline fuel. Mentioning it here matters because the Jeep Avenger is often discussed in electrified contexts, and the host notes they rented a petrol version instead of an electric one.
speed bumps
"[2573.4s] And the ride over speed bumps and potholes was its only [2576.5s] redeeming feature. [2578.3s] Huh."
Speed bumps are the raised parts in the road that make you slow down. Theyāre a quick way to feel whether a carās suspension makes bumps feel rough or manageable.
Speed bumps are raised strips designed to slow vehicles down, and they test how well a carās suspension controls vertical motion. A good ride over speed bumps usually means less harshness and better tire contact.
apps and infotainment disasters
"And on the subject of apps and infotainment disasters, this is off the back of me having a moan for the last couple of weeks."
āInfotainmentā is the carās touchscreen and software system (navigation, media, settings, and often phone integration). When people call it a ādisaster,ā theyāre usually talking about frustrating bugs, confusing menus, slow performance, or features that donāt work reliablyāissues that can matter as much as driving feel.
replacement cars
"As a Tesla owner currently, I look at replacement cars, but I'm unsure if a dealer would allow you to allow you to access the app until you bought the car."
āReplacement carsā refers to the process of choosing a substitute vehicleāoften because the current one is being replaced, upgraded, or sold. In this segment, the listener is weighing how app access and dealer policies affect their decision.
Model Y
"So for now, I just feel like it's best to stick to the Model Y. I'm keen to get into a BYD, so if you fancy doing an app review, please make it top of the list now."
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV. The discussion here is basically about whether the carās phone/app features are available before you buy, and the Model Y is the current fallback option.
The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric compact SUV. In the context of this episode, itās being used as the āsafe choiceā while the listener evaluates how car apps and infotainment access work with dealers.
BYD
"I'm keen to get into a BYD, so if you fancy doing an app review, please make it top of the list now."
BYD is a car company that makes a lot of electric vehicles. The host is saying they want to review how BYDās app and in-car tech work.
BYD is a major Chinese automaker known for producing high-volume electric vehicles and batteries. Here, itās mentioned as the next brand the listener wants to try, specifically for an app/infotainment review.
Polestar 4
"However, moved into the Polestar 4 and the app for the Polestar is brilliant. Really, really good."
The Polestar 4 is an electric car, and a big part of living with it is using the phone app. The app can help you plan charging and see what the car is doing.
The Polestar 4 is an electric crossover from Polestar, and itās a good example of how modern EV ownership is tied to a smartphone app. The app typically handles charging schedules, shows charging progress, and provides vehicle status like estimated range.
Zappy
"because my Zappy charger app has stopped working for some reason, I can now see how many miles are actually in my car and if it's probably charging through the Polestar app"
Zappy sounds like an app used for EV charging. If it isnāt working, you may not be able to see charging progress or confirm the car is charging the way you expect.
Zappy appears here as a charging-related app used to manage or monitor charging sessions. The key point is that if a charger app stops working, it can affect how you verify whether the car is charging and how many miles of range you have.
account
"it's a bit of a gray area with us because we have a car for a week. We don't necessarily want to set up an account which a lot of the time requires you to put card details against it"
Some charging services make you sign up and add your payment details before you can use them. If youāre only using the car briefly, that setup can feel like a hassle.
Many EV charging services require creating an account and linking payment details (like a card) before you can start charging. For short-term car use (like a week-long test), that friction can be a downside because it adds setup time and privacy/payment considerations.
remote car app integration
"Only when we can't run cars as long term as that we tend to download the app and make sure that we work at how it integrates with the car. So yeah, and dealers likewise... it needs to be like a demo mode, doesn't it?"
App integration just means how the car and the phone app work together. If they canāt keep the car for a long time, they test what the app can do and how it connects.
āApp integrationā refers to how well a vehicleās software connects with a smartphone app to deliver useful functions. The hosts are discussing that they may only be able to verify certain behaviors when they canāt keep cars long-term, so they rely on app-based checks and demos.
demo mode
"So yeah, and dealers likewise, I doubt they spend the time downloading apps and showing, but it needs to be like a demo mode, doesn't it? So they can show people how."
āDemo modeā is a software setting used to showcase features without requiring the full real-world conditions (like a fully connected vehicle or a live driving scenario). In dealerships, it helps sales staff demonstrate app/infotainment features consistently to customers.
Volkswagen app
"Hi, when I downloaded the Volkswagen app for the first time when I had my eGolf, it was an absolute game changer because I'd lose my car all the time."
Many modern cars have a phone app. It can connect to the car so you can see where it is (using GPS) and sometimes control or check things remotely.
A car companion app (like the Volkswagen app mentioned here) typically connects to the vehicle over cellular/GPS to provide remote functions. Common features include locating the car on a map, checking status, and sometimes remote locking/unlocking or climate control.
cabin preconditioning
"It says, Mike is right that the promise of tough wear, such as cabin preconditioning and schedule charging, wasn't available even after a year of ownership."
Cabin preconditioning is when the car heats or cools the inside before you get in. Itās often done while the car is plugged in so you donāt waste as much battery during your drive.
Cabin preconditioning means warming or cooling the carās interior before you drive, usually using battery power while the vehicle is plugged in. It can improve comfort and help preserve range by avoiding heavy heating right after departure.
EC3 screen was unstable
"The EC3 screen was unstable and would reboot several times at start-up. Many owners have the same problems, and some of us rejected the car because of it."
The transcript describes a recurring infotainment/vehicle screen issue: the EC3 screen was unstable and rebooted multiple times at startup. This is the kind of software reliability problem that can affect usability (navigation, controls, and settings) and may indicate broader system instability.
Hyundai Insta app
"I feel a bit bad for the EC3. The Hyundai Insta app knocks citrons out of the park."
The Hyundai Insta app is referenced as a competing connected-car experience. The speaker implies it performs better than the alternative theyāre criticizing, framing it as a stronger user experience for EV owners.
citron
"I feel a bit bad for the EC3. The Hyundai Insta app knocks citrons out of the park."
Theyāre making a comparison to another brand, but the name ācitronā isnāt clear from the transcript. It sounds like they mean āthe competition,ā but we canāt tell exactly which one.
āCitronā appears to be a reference to another EV brand or competitor, used in a comparison phrase. The transcript doesnāt clearly identify which company/model ācitronā refers to, so itās likely a nickname or transcription error.
judging so many of our cars on the software
"I think it's such a weird time that we're in now, where we're judging so many of our cars on the software and not by how they drive a lot of the time."
Theyāre talking about how people now judge cars by the tech inside themālike screens, apps, and software features. The host thinks thatās a newer trend compared with the old days when people mainly cared how the car drove.
This refers to the modern shift toward evaluating cars by their digital systemsāapps, infotainment, driver-assist interfaces, and update behaviorārather than purely by driving feel. It matters because software can change over time via updates, and it can also affect usability, safety perception, and ownership satisfaction.
Ford Puma
"Yeah. I miss my old Ford Puma coupe that used to rust around the wheel arches and just had a CD player that I got put in that got stolen every five minutes."
Theyāre talking about an older Ford Puma they owned. Theyāre saying it wasnāt perfectāespecially because it rusted around the wheel areasāand even the CD player was a target for theft.
The Ford Puma (a small coupe/compact crossover-style model depending on generation and market) is being used here as a personal example of an older car. The host mentions typical ownership realities like rust around the wheel arches and basic in-cabin tech (a CD player).
rust around the wheel arches
"I miss my old Ford Puma coupe that used to rust around the wheel arches and just had a CD player that I got put in that got stolen every five minutes."
Theyāre describing a corrosion issue where the metal around the wheel openings starts to rust. It happens because that spot gets hit by water and dirt from the road, and it can spread over time.
Rust around the wheel arches is a common corrosion problem because that area collects moisture, road spray, and debris. It can start as surface rust and eventually weaken body panels and affect nearby suspension/trim fitment.
CD player
"...and just had a CD player that I got put in that got stolen every five minutes."
A CD player is the car stereo that plays music from CDs. Theyāre saying the one they had installed was stolen a lot, which was a real problem with some older car stereos.
A CD player is an in-dash or aftermarket head unit that plays music from compact discs. The hostās point is that older audio setups were vulnerable to theft, especially if the unit or faceplate was removable.
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