Ep. 301: Bargain Alert! Cars That Crashed And Burned This Year!
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Exploring the automotive landscape of 2023, this episode dives into cars that have struggled in the market, highlighting models that have 'crashed and burned' and those that are being discontinued. The hosts discuss the disappointing launch of the electric Dodge Charger Daytona, the polarizing Jaguar 00 prototype, and the potential bargains available as manufacturers clear out inventory. With insights on various brands like Acura, Audi, and Porsche, the episode provides valuable advice for car shoppers looking for deals on soon-to-be-discontinued models.
In this episode of TFL Car Chat, Roman and Tommy sound the alarm on the cars that crashed and burned this year—models that are either disappearing from the market or flopping so hard they may never recover. From discontinued vehicles that could soon be bargains on dealer lots to flashy new releases that failed to deliver, the guys break down what went wrong and where savvy shoppers might find deals.
They also highlight some of the most talked-about flops of the year, including the Dodge Charger Daytona and Tesla Cybertruck, and discuss what their struggles mean for the future of performance cars and EVs. It’s a candid conversation about bad bets, bargain opportunities, and the changing automotive landscape that every car enthusiast will want to hear.
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Dodge Charger
"...e beans on that one? Well, I think that the Dodge Charger is kind of the big obvious one, right? So that's ..."
Dodge Challenger
"...cher with this. The crowd for the old Charger and Challenger V8 models, right? I'm talking RT, SRT, Hellcat, a..."
Jeep Wagoneer
"... RHO Ram. That was Electric Charger, the electric Wagoneer, I think to some extent was under him."
Tesla Cybertruck
"...is probably the most polarizing vehicle since the Cybertruck. Yeah, I mean, and then"
Jeep Wrangler
"... doors absolutely tank. In the Jeep world, in the Wrangler world, like three out of four Wranglers are the u..."
Ford Bronco
"Yeah. Same thing with the Bronco. So yeah, this two door is just not practical."
Ford Ranger
"...nson, right? I don't think you can get a two door Ranger. You can get a two door Tacoma."
Toyota Prius
"will solve in law, kind of compared to the Prius, Really?"
Wrangler Rubicon
"... okay. Intel, did you see that guy took it on the Rubicon Trail? Yeah, I saw that."
Porsche Taycan
"...e McCann or do you say McCann? And of course, the Taycan. And these are two very good products,"
Porsche Cayenne
"...cern for Porsche is they also now have a electric Cayenne, which is just around the corner."
Porsche Cayman
"The 70, we'll talk about that in a second. Not Cayman, Cayenne SUV. Yeah."
Mercedes-Benz EQS
"... that's the one you want. So we know that all the EQS have crashed and burned because Mercedes has anno..."
G-Class Gwagon
"Which Mercedes EQ? The G-Wagon. Yeah, but they're still pretty expensive."
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
"...is not an EV, it's a gas car. Is the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer? Yeah."
Cadillac Escalade
"the Suburban and if you're going to take on the Escalade, you got to bring more than just a big, you know,"
Acura Legend
"since its beginning, right? The legend, if you remember back in the day. Is it Vigor or ..."
Acura Integra
"Yeah, yeah, that's the last one. What about the Integra? Oh, yeah, that's right."
Audi Q8 Etron
"But A4, that's a big nameplate that's dying. Q8 e-tron. This is another car."
Audi Sq8 Etron
"People don't know this car existed. But they did an SQ8 e-tron. I think they probably sold three of them."
Cadillac XT4
"Let's see. XT4. OK, this is an interesting one."
Cadillac XT6
"Right. And then the X6, which is also XT6, is also going away. That's going to become the V..."
Cadillac Optiq
"...truggled with the small Cadillacs, except the new OPTIQ. I really like that new OPTIQ."
Toyota Grand Highlander
"...nt to show up with something that's better than a Grand Highlander. Then you go for the TX or in this case the XT6."
Cadillac XT5
"The XT6. The XT5. Get next T5 because that's always been a big sel..."
Chevrolet Malibu
"Yep. All right, Cole next Chevy Malibu. What the hell?"
Chevrolet Corvette
"...all. the last of the Chevy sedans, except for the Corvette. Well, that's not a sedan sports car."
Nissan Rogue
"...t do you have to say about that? This is a luxury rogue with less headroom. That's all I have to say abou..."
Nissan Pathfinder
"I'm pretty. I think QX 60 is a luxury pathfinder. So if you want a luxurious rogue,"
Infiniti QX60
"I'm pretty. I think QX 60 is a luxury pathfinder. So if you want a luxurious rogue,"
Polestar 2
"All right, Cole, what's next? Polestar 2. No, I got a story about that."
Porsche Boxster
"Boo, yeah, it's supposed to be a. Came in a Boxster. That's another car."
Porsche 911
"Yeah. Or a cool number like 9-11. How is that a cool number?"
Toyota bZ4X
"It is, it works. RAV4 works better than BZ4X. How about CRV?"
Ford Bronco Sport
"...course is going away because of the fact that the Bronco Sport is selling so well. And let's face it, the escape..."
Nissan Gtr
"The other one that's going away is just the last GT-R just rolled off the assembly line for the R35 that's going away."
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