Episode #214 - Pony Boys
About this episode
A lively discussion dives into the Ford Mustang's rich history and its various iterations, from the classic 1964 launch to modern Coyote-powered models. The hosts share personal experiences with different Mustang variants, highlighting the Fox body and the unique SVO turbocharged model. They explore the Mustang's evolution in performance and cultural impact, touching on the tuner scene and how the Mustang fits into it. The conversation blends technical insights with humor and nostalgia, making it a deep yet entertaining look at one of America's iconic sports cars.
The dudes talk lots about the more obscure side of fun cars, but the Ford Mustang is something the fellas have experience with, and thus wanted to burn an episode talking horses. In an Ep that would make Mr. Hands blush, Chadwick and Frank talk all about pony cars.
Ford Mustang
"...Right. You might find yourself purchasing a Ford Mustang. Oh."
The Ford Mustang is a famous car from America that looks cool and can go really fast. Many people like it because it’s fun to drive and not too expensive. It’s often talked about when people want a sporty car that’s easy to find.
The Ford Mustang is an iconic American muscle car known for its powerful performance and classic design. It has been a popular choice for enthusiasts seeking a blend of style, speed, and affordability. The Mustang often comes up in discussions about affordable sports cars and American automotive culture.
Ford Mustang Boss 302
""Boss 302, for example. Yeah. Cool frigging car. I mean, there, and there's a, there, you've got a lot of options in Mustang world for interesting and cool stuff.""
The Boss 302 is a special version of the Ford Mustang that has a strong engine and is built to go fast and handle well, making it popular with car fans who like sporty cars.
The Ford Mustang Boss 302 is a high-performance variant of the Mustang originally produced in 1969 and 1970, known for its powerful 302 cubic inch V8 engine and track-focused enhancements. It is celebrated for its combination of muscle car power and handling capabilities.
Coyote motor
"It's real easy to overlook like the modern, like the, ever since the induction of the Coyote motor, Mustangs have gotten cripplingly fast, like just unbelievably good. ... I haven't, I've never driven a Coyote powered car."
The Coyote motor is a powerful engine made by Ford that makes Mustangs really fast and strong. It's the heart of many newer Mustangs.
The Coyote motor is Ford's 5.0-liter V8 engine introduced in 2011, known for its high power output and modern technology. It powers many Mustang GTs and is a key factor in their strong performance.
Shelby GT500
"...e time. I know I'm not counting like the GT350s, GT500s and all the other modern iterations, but just a ..."
The Shelby GT500 is a very fast and strong version of the Ford Mustang. It has a special engine that makes it go much faster than normal cars. People like it because it’s one of the fastest Mustangs you can buy.
The Shelby GT500 is a high-performance variant of the Ford Mustang, featuring a supercharged V8 engine and upgraded suspension for enhanced speed and handling. It represents the pinnacle of Mustang performance and is highly regarded among muscle car enthusiasts. The GT500 is often discussed for its blend of raw power and modern technology.
Shelby GT350
"...pent some time. I know I'm not counting like the GT350s, GT500s and all the other modern iterations, but ..."
Ford is a big car company from America that makes many different cars, including very fast and strong ones like the Mustang GT350 and GT500. These cars are special because they can go really fast and are good for racing. People talk about Ford because it has made many popular cars.
Ford is a major American automaker known for producing a wide range of vehicles, including performance models like the Mustang GT350 and GT500. These high-performance Mustangs are celebrated for their power and track capabilities. Discussions often focus on Ford’s legacy in muscle cars and modern performance innovations.
Ford Mustang GTD
"... and all the other modern iterations, but just a Mustang GT from the past decade is a really good car, like a..."
The Ford Mustang GTD is a newer version of the Mustang that’s fast and uses modern technology to drive better. It has a smaller engine with a turbo to help it go quickly and handle well. People like it because it’s a good mix of power and comfort.
The Ford Mustang GTD is a modern variant of the Mustang that blends performance with advanced technology, often featuring turbocharged engines and improved handling. It represents the evolution of the Mustang into a more refined yet still powerful sports car. The GTD is noted for being a strong all-around performer in recent years.
six-speed manual transmission
"down if you get in a six-speed performance pack Mustang GT, like a more modern-ish one."
This is a type of gearbox where you use a stick to change gears yourself, which can make driving more fun and give you more control.
A six-speed manual transmission allows the driver to manually select from six gears, offering more control over the car's performance compared to automatic transmissions.
BMW E92
"But truth be told, it was like almost faster. It was like the same speed as like an E 92 competition. Sure."
The BMW 3 Series is a nice, comfortable car that’s fun to drive and feels a bit fancy inside. Some versions are really fast and sporty, which makes them exciting for car lovers. People often talk about it because it’s a popular choice for a good everyday car that’s also enjoyable.
The BMW 3 Series is a luxury compact sedan known for its sporty handling and refined driving experience. It has been a benchmark in the segment for decades, offering a balance of performance, comfort, and technology. The E92 M3 Competition mentioned is a high-performance variant celebrated for its speed and driving dynamics.
supercharger
"Oh, this is a blower. Somebody put a supercharge on this supercharger on it."
A supercharger is a part that helps a car's engine get more air so it can go faster and be more powerful. It is connected directly to the engine to give extra power quickly.
A supercharger is a device that forces more air into the engine's combustion chamber, increasing power output by allowing the engine to burn more fuel. It is mechanically driven by the engine, providing immediate boost.
Ford Mustang (Fox Body)
"I really I really get behind a Fox body. I love how they look. I love the the ceiling is like unfathomably high for building those cars."
The Fox body Mustang is an older model of the Ford Mustang that's easy to modify and popular with car fans. Lots of parts are available to make it faster or look cooler.
The Ford Fox body refers to the third generation of the Ford Mustang produced from 1979 to 1993. It is known for its lightweight design and large aftermarket support, making it popular for modifications and performance builds.
Ford Capri
"No, no. Well, no, the Mercury with another Capri XR two. You mean the XR four T I XR four T I."
The Ford Capri is an older sporty car from Europe that looked nice and was fun to drive without costing too much. There was a similar version called the Mercury Capri sold in the US. Some versions had a turbo engine that made them faster.
The Ford Capri was a European coupe produced from the late 1960s through the 1980s, designed to offer sporty styling and performance at an affordable price. The Mercury Capri was a related model sold in North America. The XR4Ti variant mentioned is notable for its turbocharged engine and unique styling.
Mercury Capri XR4Ti
"Well, no, the Mercury with another Capri XR two. You mean the XR four T I XR four T I. Sorry, XR twos in another episode we're going to talk about. Sure. Yeah. Yes. Yes. XR four T I I. OK, I have driven around the block and a three speed auto XR four T I. So I kind of don't really count that similar."
The Mercury Capri XR4Ti is a fun car from the 1980s with a small but powerful engine that uses a turbo to go faster. It looks a bit different from regular cars and was made to be sporty.
The Mercury Capri XR4Ti is a sporty variant of the Mercury Capri, featuring a turbocharged inline-four engine and distinctive styling. It was produced in the 1980s and is known for its unique combination of performance and quirky design.
Mazda Speed
"Let's take a Mazda six. Mazda Speed six will do a drivetrain powertrain swap into an ..."
The Mazda Mazdaspeed3 is a small car that’s quick and fun to drive because it has a turbo engine. It’s also useful for everyday things like carrying stuff. People like it because it’s both practical and sporty.
The Mazda Mazdaspeed3 is a sporty hatchback known for its turbocharged engine and agile handling. It offers a practical yet fun driving experience, making it popular among enthusiasts who want performance without sacrificing daily usability. The Mazdaspeed3 is often mentioned in tuning and modification communities.
Ford Mustang SVO
""I really dig SVOs, except they are almost always trashed. Yeah, you know, they just didn't garner the garner the respect of a GT.""
The Mustang SVO is a special version of the Ford Mustang from the 1980s that has a smaller, turbocharged engine and looks different from the usual Mustang. It was made to be faster and handle better than the regular Mustang.
The Ford Mustang SVO is a high-performance variant of the Mustang produced in the 1980s, known for its turbocharged four-cylinder engine and distinctive styling. It was designed to offer a more sophisticated and aerodynamic alternative to the traditional V8 Mustang GT.
tuner car
""...like hot import nights and the tuner car thing was like in full force.""
A tuner car is a car that people change or upgrade to make it faster or look cooler, especially popular with fans of Japanese cars.
A tuner car is a vehicle that has been modified or customized, often for improved performance or unique style, commonly associated with the import car culture popularized in the 1990s and 2000s.
Chevrolet Camaro
"... it was like, you know, the new freshly returned Camaro and and and, you know, the Mustang GT with 300 h..."
The Chevrolet Camaro is a powerful and sporty car from America that looks tough and goes fast. It’s often compared to the Mustang because they are similar types of cars. People talk about it because it’s fun to drive and has a cool design.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a classic American muscle car that competes directly with the Ford Mustang. Known for its aggressive styling and strong V8 engine options, the Camaro GT is a popular choice for those seeking performance and a bold presence on the road. It’s often discussed in the context of muscle car rivalries and modern performance.
turbo four cylinder
"where you had a where you had a turbo four cylinder,"
A turbo four-cylinder is a small engine with a turbo that makes it more powerful by pushing extra air in.
A turbo four-cylinder engine uses a turbocharger to force more air into the engine, increasing power output while maintaining a smaller engine size.
EcoBoost
""But unfortunately, it was in the form of the EcoBoost, which I think which is OK. And I've driven an EcoBoost. It was quite OK. Yeah.""
EcoBoost is a type of engine made by Ford that uses a small turbocharger to make the car faster while still saving gas.
EcoBoost is Ford's brand name for a family of turbocharged, direct-injection gasoline engines designed to deliver better fuel efficiency and performance compared to traditional engines.
drag strip
"But this is like you take this to the open drag strip in your put on county. And then you run the eighth mile because there's not enough room for the quarter."
A drag strip is a special straight track where people race their cars to see which one can go fastest in a short distance.
A drag strip is a straight racing track used for acceleration contests, typically a quarter mile or eighth mile long. It is a popular venue for testing a car's straight-line speed and acceleration.
turbo technology
"because turbo technology, 80s turbo technology, we all know it can be quite a bit different than what it is today."
Turbo technology means using a special device called a turbocharger to make a car's engine more powerful by pushing more air into it. The way turbos worked in the 1980s is very different from how they work in cars today.
Turbo technology refers to the use of a turbocharger, a device that forces extra air into an engine's combustion chamber to increase power output. Turbo technology has evolved significantly since the 1980s, improving reliability, efficiency, and performance.
horsepower
"That's what 300 horsepower."
Horsepower tells you how strong a car's engine is and how much power it can make. More horsepower usually means the car can go faster or accelerate quicker.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for engine power, indicating how much work an engine can perform. It helps compare the performance capabilities of different vehicles.
exhaust
"cool exhaust on it. And when you open up any of those Mustangs, they sound so good."
The exhaust is the part of the car that lets out the gases from the engine. It also makes the car sound a certain way.
The exhaust system in a car directs and controls the release of engine gases, often influencing the sound and performance of the vehicle.
Ford Mustang Mach 1
""And it's funny, you mentioned Mach one. Um, just in the last few weeks, I've driven two Mach ones, but new one, right? 1969 Mach one. Okay. Um, and two very different cars. So one is an original 1969 Mach one 428.""
The Mustang Mach 1 is a special version of the Ford Mustang that is faster and sportier. The first one came out in 1969 and is famous for being a strong and cool muscle car.
The Ford Mustang Mach 1 is a performance-oriented variant of the Mustang, originally introduced in 1969. It is known for its powerful engines and distinctive styling, making it a classic muscle car icon.
restomod
"this one had a, it's black on black, but a complete resto mod done on this thing in like 2005."
A restomod is when someone fixes up an old car and adds newer parts to make it work better and be more fun to drive.
A restomod is a classic car that has been restored and modified with modern parts and technology to improve performance, reliability, and comfort while retaining the original style.
fuel injected 351
"So fuel injected 351. I think on the dyno, it did, it was good for like 380 or 390 at the wheels."
The 351 is a type of engine size, and fuel injection means the engine gets fuel in a modern way that helps it run better.
The '351' refers to Ford's 351 cubic inch V8 engine, and 'fuel injected' means it uses a fuel injection system instead of a carburetor, improving efficiency and performance.
Toyota A90
"So I do three auto. I am I had a a friend who she in high school, she had a I believe it was a 90. Mustang convertible."
The Toyota Supra is a fast and sporty car from Japan that many people love because it can go really fast and be made even faster. It became famous in the 1990s and is still popular today. People talk about it because it’s a cool car for racing and having fun.
The Toyota Supra is a legendary Japanese sports car famous for its performance and tuning potential, especially the fourth-generation models from the 1990s. It has a strong following due to its powerful turbocharged engines and balanced chassis. The Supra is often referenced in discussions about iconic sports cars and Japanese automotive culture.
Golf Gtd
"It's it's OK. The GTD is fucking cool as all hell. That's that's a tot..."
The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that’s easy to drive and good for many uses. The GTD version uses diesel fuel, which helps it go far without using much gas, and it’s also a bit sporty. Many people like it because it’s reliable and comfortable.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact hatchback known for its versatility, quality, and driving dynamics. The GTD variant is a diesel-powered model praised for its fuel efficiency and sporty character. The Golf is widely regarded as a benchmark in the compact car segment.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
""Yeah, but it's like an EVO is not a Lancer, right? ... Like, yeah, well, I got a Lancer GTS.""
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is a faster, sportier version of the Lancer with a powerful engine and special four-wheel drive to help it go fast and handle well.
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, often called EVO, is a high-performance version of the Lancer featuring turbocharged engines and advanced all-wheel drive for sporty driving.
Mitsubishi Lancer
""Yeah, but it's like an EVO is not a Lancer, right? ... Like, yeah, well, I got a Lancer GTS.""
The Mitsubishi Lancer is a small car made by Mitsubishi. It comes in different versions, some are more sporty than others.
The Mitsubishi Lancer is a compact car produced by Mitsubishi Motors, known for its practical design and various trims including sportier versions.
hybrid performance car
""Maybe like a hybrid performance Mustang in the future. Could be a thing could be a thing.""
A hybrid performance car uses both a gas engine and electric motors to make the car go fast and save fuel at the same time.
A hybrid performance car combines a traditional internal combustion engine with electric motors to improve power, efficiency, or both. This technology allows for enhanced acceleration and better fuel economy.
Ford Probe
"Let me tell you the second coming of the Ford probe. Oh boy. Remember that? Remember that?"
The Ford Probe was a sporty car made a while ago that was meant to be fun to drive but wasn't as popular as the Mustang.
The Ford Probe was a sporty front-wheel-drive coupe produced from 1988 to 1997, designed in collaboration with Mazda. It was intended as a modern sports car alternative but did not achieve the Mustang's popularity.
Chevrolet Corvette
"...at at least is functionally OK with a mid-engine Corvette. Like whether you can do a front-engine rear-dri..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a very fast and sporty car from America that people like because it’s powerful and looks cool. The newest versions have the engine in the middle of the car, which helps it drive better. It’s popular because it gives a lot of speed for the money.
The Chevrolet Corvette is an iconic American sports car known for its high performance and value. The shift to a mid-engine layout in recent generations has improved handling and competitiveness against European sports cars. The Corvette is often discussed for its blend of power, technology, and affordability in the sports car market.
Porsche Cayman
"...oing to try and do this with the McCall and slash Cayman. Yep, maybe."
The Porsche Cayman is a small, sporty car that’s really good at turning and driving smoothly. It has its engine in the middle, which helps it stay balanced. People like it because it’s fun to drive and made by Porsche, a famous car company.
The Porsche Cayman is a mid-engine sports car praised for its sharp handling and balanced chassis. It offers a more affordable entry into Porsche’s lineup while delivering a pure driving experience. The Cayman is often mentioned when discussing driver-focused sports cars with excellent dynamics.
driver side airbag supplemental restraint system
"A new driver side airbag supplemental restraint system."
This is a safety airbag on the driver's side that helps protect the driver if there is an accident.
A driver side airbag supplemental restraint system is a safety feature that deploys an airbag on the driver's side to reduce injury in a crash, supplementing seat belts.
facelift
"It's a funny ad because it's a 1989 Toyota Supra, which is the first year of the facelift, which got you a slightly different bumpers and some other things."
A facelift is when a car gets some new parts like bumpers or wheels to look a bit different, but it's still mostly the same car.
A facelift is a mid-cycle update to a car model that typically includes cosmetic changes such as new bumpers, lights, or wheels to refresh its appearance without a full redesign.
crossover year
"It's a crossover year."
A crossover year is when a car is changing from one style to another, so it has some parts from the old version and some from the new one.
A crossover year refers to a model year during which a car transitions between two different versions or designs, often featuring a mix of parts from both the old and new versions.
Lotus Elan
"...yeah, also check the bottom. Pre-viewing the new Lotus Elan, the M100 Elan. Nothing about it."
The Lotus Elan is a small, light sports car from Britain that’s very good at turning and driving smoothly. It doesn’t have a very big engine but is fun to drive because it feels very connected to the road. People like it because it’s simple and sporty.
The Lotus Elan M100 is a lightweight British sports car from the late 1980s and early 1990s, known for its nimble handling and innovative design. It is often praised for delivering a pure driving experience despite modest power. The Elan is a favorite among enthusiasts who appreciate driver engagement.
Nissan 300 ZX
"...ke, I don't think it would. I don't, because the 300 ZX twin turbo is big and heavy, often critiqued for..."
The Nissan 300ZX is a fast car from Japan made in the 1990s that had two turbochargers to make it go quicker. It’s a bit heavier than some other sports cars, so it doesn’t turn as sharply. People still like it because it was very advanced when it came out.
The Nissan 300ZX is a Japanese sports car from the 1990s known for its twin-turbocharged engine and advanced technology for its time. While praised for performance, it is often noted for being heavier than competitors, which affects handling. It remains a popular classic for enthusiasts of Japanese performance cars.
twin turbo
"I don't, because the 300 ZX twin turbo is big and heavy,"
Twin turbo means the car has two devices that push more air into the engine to make it go faster and have more power.
Twin turbo refers to an engine setup with two turbochargers that increase engine power by forcing more air into the combustion chamber, improving performance and responsiveness.
timing belt
"I told you I took the timing belt apart last time. Well, didn't take it apart. Took the front of the engine off so I can see the time belt. My marks perfectly. I sent you the photos, photo evidence, my friend."
The timing belt is like a rubber belt inside the engine that helps different parts move together so the engine runs smoothly. If it breaks, the engine can get damaged.
A timing belt is a crucial engine component that synchronizes the rotation of the crankshaft and camshaft, ensuring the engine's valves open and close at the correct times during each cylinder's intake and exhaust strokes.
reset check engine light
"Like it's a, just a reset check engine light because people are like, oh, I have this misfire and I just do this and I sell the car."
Resetting the check engine light means turning off the warning light on your dashboard. But this doesn't fix the problem; it just hides the light for a while.
Resetting the check engine light clears the warning indicator from the dashboard, but it does not fix the underlying issue causing the alert. This can temporarily hide problems from potential buyers or during inspections.
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