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Welcome to F1 Explains, the official Formula One podcast that is all about answering your
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questions on the greatest sport in the world.
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My name is Christian Hugel.
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And how this podcast works is you email F1Explains at F1.com on any topic you like.
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So long as it is Formula One dependence, we insist on that much.
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And we find an expert from the world of Formula One to put your question to.
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And this week, our expert is, I can say this extremely comfortably, one of our most popular
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guests in F1 Explains history, someone who's been with us right from the start
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and someone who you always go absolutely mad for on this podcast.
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From a Formula One strategist and part of the Sky Sports F1 television team,
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Bernie Collins, what a joy it is to have you here.
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Welcome back to F1 Explains.
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Thanks, Christian. Yeah, it's good to be back and good to be answering some of the
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questions and that's a very kind introduction.
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And it's entirely truthful, Bernie.
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It's entirely truthful.
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Bernie, we've got a bit of a mixed bag of questions today, sort of a bit of an F1
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Explains quick fire episode.
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Of course, as I just mentioned, you were a strategist in Formula One.
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I say were because you used to work full time within teams.
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I suppose once a strategist, always a strategist.
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You're still a strategist, but just for the television rather than permanently
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sat wearing green in the case of your last job on the pit wall.
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So of course, whenever you're on the pod, there tends to be strategy themed questions.
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So shall we start with, as is tradition, a strategy themed question?
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Well, we should talk about the new season, Bernie.
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And of course, the new era of Formula One, we find ourselves in where
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so many things, of course, have changed.
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How has strategy changed this season, particularly race strategy?
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Yeah, I think there's been quite a few changes this season.
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We're a little bit into it.
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I think it's continues to evolve in as teams learn, drivers learn, etc.
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I think what we're seeing is that, let's say, the strategy up until
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a race hasn't really changed what teams and drivers do in qualifying
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is largely the same, if we think of that as being strategy as well.
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And it's maybe more susceptible to errors
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because the cars have less downforce.
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So we see more lockups or more mistakes from an engine management side.
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So qualifying is maybe a bit more volatile than it used to be.
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Reason we're seeing more overtaken than we did in the past in general
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for each of the tracks that we've been to so far.
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So that's one aspect is overtaken a little bit easier,
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which tends to allow the faster cars a bit more of a way through
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than what they had in the past.
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We're seeing and that's, you know, down to lots of reasons
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and the reduced size of the cars, how the battery is deploying, those types of things.
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We've also got new tyres this year,
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which lots of the other aspects that were new outside the power unit
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have sort of gone a bit under the radar because there was so much focus
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on the power unit, but we've got new tyres.
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They're smaller than they were before.
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But that means that when we talk about the tyre
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compliance in terms of a C1 or a C2, it's not exactly the same
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as a C1 or a C2 that we had last year.
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So in general, I would say, thus far,
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the tyres have been harder than they were last year,
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and that means that we're seeing less tyre degradation.
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So the tyres are lasting longer into the race than they did last year
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and they're more stable throughout the lap.
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So those things combined are pushing maybe less pit stops that we've seen
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in the past because the tyres are able to go further into the race.
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So I think actually the tyres has been the biggest change
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that we've seen in Stradae, which is a bit unrelated to the power unit changes.
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A couple of things to pick up on there.
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Firstly, on tyres, Bernie, if anyone missed it not too long ago,
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we were joined by Mario Asola from Pirelli to talk about the changes
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to tyres this season right here on this feed on F1 Explains.
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So scroll back on this feed to listen to that if you might have missed it
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and want to go into more details on the change to the tyres this season.
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Bernie, one thing you said there that particularly interests me.
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Of course, I'm a Formula One fan,
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so overtaking is always going to particularly interest me.
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You're right, Bernie, of course, we've seen so much more of it.
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Do you think when strategists are in their strategy meetings
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before the start of races, do you think they are saying,
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well, actually, we might be more likely to make up places?
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You know, of course, track position is always important,
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but do you think it might promote some bolder strategies
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as we move through the season, given strategists may say to their drivers,
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actually, mate, we back you to go and make these places back up
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because it is proving easier to overtake with this generation of car?
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I think when overtaking is a little bit easier, it has a few effects.
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So it takes away some of the importance of qualifying.
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Now, last year in 2025, we basically had a series
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where pretty much the qualifying positions
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was very, very close to the finishing positions
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to qualify and had this overriding effect on the end result of the race.
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So that's a little bit better.
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It does, like you say, promote the opportunity.
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And we've not seen it so far yet.
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But I think we will, where if someone's stuck behind another driver
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because the piece is too close, they may convert to a two-stop
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rather than a one-stop because they know
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that there's a chance of getting back through the traffic.
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People might be a little bit briever in their pit stop decision
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stopping a little bit earlier and not so worried about the traffic.
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They stop into, for example.
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So there were lots of things, as well as that, the field
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and that's the 22 cars are at the beginning of this regulation
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a little bit more spread out.
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So at the end of last year, when you were looking at who was in your pit
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window, i.e. who you would do a pit stop and come out behind,
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the cars were all very close in piece.
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Now you can look at some much slower cars
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and know that you're able to overtake them.
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So it does have quite big effects
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on when you're thinking of your strategy going into the race.
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Or if you have a slightly slow pit stop, for example,
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hopefully you might be able to recover that.
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So I think it will push teams
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maybe as we get more into it to do an alternative strategy
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in the hope that they can use a fresh
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or tired to overtake towards the end of the race.
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Reminded me slightly there, Bernie, of the Australian Grand Prix.
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We saw a virtual safety car.
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I believe it was because Isaac Hadja broke down around about lap 11.
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Both Ferraris stayed out
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rather than pitting under the virtual safety car
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where they might have got an advantage.
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Perhaps that's the situation where that had happened later in the season
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where the teams might have had a bit more knowledge
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of how much easier it is to overtake on these cars.
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Maybe Ferrari would have been tempted to split the strategy
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and think, for example, OK, Lewis,
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we'll bring you in in the hope that you can battle your way back forward.
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I think there's a few aspects of that.
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As one, you're not thinking about if you get stuck a little bit in traffic,
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how easy it is to come through.
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And two, that they weren't expecting that tyre
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that people fed it for the last bit of the race to last as long as it did.
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So the two aspects are going together,
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the how easy overtaking is and how long the tyres are lasted.
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Now, it's worth saying that we might see later on in the season,
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Pirelli choose to bring softer tyres.
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So we might that that, you know, in my mind
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make strategy even more interesting again,
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because you'll have tyres that won't easily last long distances
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and you'll have easy overtaking.
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You should have the tyres dropping off more dramatically, so higher degradation.
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And all of that would go together to mean that you've got
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paste differences between the cars that allows quite interesting strategies
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and races to unfold.
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We will continue to follow the strategic development of the season
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And if one explains, Bernie, I'm sure it's not the last time
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you'll be on with us this season, so we'll pick it up with you later in the year.
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I mentioned the email address f1explains at f1.com.
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Do send your questions in.
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Thank you so much for all the questions we're getting so far this season.
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Loads and loads of them coming in.
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We really appreciate it.
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Marcus is in Melbourne, Australia, speaking of the Australian Grand Prix.
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I hope you were with us a few weeks ago, Marcus.
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Marcus says, how does strategy change from track to track?
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Bernie, so many variables on this one, isn't there?
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Yeah, there's a lot of variables.
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I think if we think of the first starting point for strategy
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is what's the quickest race to the end of the race?
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If there was no other cars involved, so totally in one traffic.
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And the track specific aspects of going to that is what is the pit loss?
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So how long does it take to do a pit stop?
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How are the tyres performing?
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So what are the first lap speed differences between the tyres and lap time?
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So is a medium half and second quicker than a hard, for example?
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And then what the tyre degradation is?
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So how quickly lack one lap, the medium gets slower than the hard tyre, for example?
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So all of those aspects build a very basic race model that says
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this is the preferred strategy to the end of the race,
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be that a one stop or two stop, whatever.
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So they're all circuit specific, you know, the pit loss, the tyre degradation
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that all comes from the circuit.
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The other thing that then goes into that is how easy it is to overtake.
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So how much are you going to risk that traffic?
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You know, if a two stop is quicker on paper,
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with not considering other cars, but if overtaking is really difficult,
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you might go to a one stop, for example,
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because you don't want to get trapped behind other cars.
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So the overtaking that affects your sort of race plan
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more than your optimum, faster strategy.
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There's lots of other things that goes into that,
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like the temperatures you're expecting, the wind conditions,
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every big influence on car setup, for example,
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what the track and roughness is like.
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So you can get and you can see it just on normal,
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like street surfaces or pavement surfaces, you know,
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how much of the little greens can you see or how smooth is it?
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And that all has a bearing on the tyres
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and it all has a bearing on those other bits of the model,
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like tyre degradation and, yeah, and how we build up that model together.
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Track roughness we'll come back to in a moment.
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Our next question speaks a little bit about that.
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I just wanted to pick up on one thing there.
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Obviously, you as a strategist, Bernie,
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you're going to be relying on data from previous race weekends.
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Now, obviously, in this area of Formula One, you know,
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you might be looking at let's look at the Japanese Grand Prix from last year,
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but we're in a very different area of F1.
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So with data from last year, less important than it was before is one question.
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And my second follow up to that is we're also going to a completely new track
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this season in Madrid, where I'm guessing it's even more difficult
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for strategists like yourself because we've never raced there before.
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Yeah, so if I start with the normal track question,
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so teams, let's say, have done a few races now.
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So they have some knowledge of how the tyres, the car,
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the overtaken is performing last this year.
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So what they will do is they will look at Australia, if we take that example,
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and we'll say, OK, degradation this year, and I'm making these numbers up.
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So do not quote these numbers.
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Decorations this year was half of what degradation was last year.
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So the tyres are lasting twice as long, really ballpark numbers.
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And they'll do that for Australia.
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They'll do that for China.
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They'll do that for Japan.
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And then over the course of the season,
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you get a relationship between this year and last year.
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You get a relationship in terms of overtaken
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and in terms of how the tyres are performing.
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And then you take that relationship
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and you apply it to the circuit you're currently at.
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So when you come to Barcelona, for example,
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you look at Barcelona last year and you'll say, OK,
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on average this year, degradation is half.
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So we'll apply that to the model from last year.
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Roughly, there's been twice as many overtakes.
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OK, we'll apply that to the model of Barcelona
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last year. So you take your Barcelona data,
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which is still the most relevant thing that you have for Barcelona.
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And you will apply the 2026 offsets to it.
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So that's how you get your base model going into Friday morning in Barcelona.
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And then obviously any running that you get throughout that event
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starts to override the information that you've got in the past.
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So you're sort of interpolating the information between 2026
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and the circuit that you're at.
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And obviously, the further you go through the year,
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the more data you've built up on this 25 to 26 comparison.
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So the later races get better and better and better
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in terms of your accuracy going into it.
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Because you'll have some circuits.
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Australia is a good example.
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This year it was dry, last year it was wet.
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So the 2026 to 25 comparison for Australia is probably not that good.
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But China, very similar conditions.
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So the more data you get as a strategist,
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and engineer the better, you know, it just gets better and better.
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So then when you get to Madrid, you don't have a Madrid model, like you say.
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You'll have a simulator model and you'll have some estimates
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of overtaking, of track roughness, of tire performance.
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But what you might do then for Madrid,
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and I don't know which complements it's going to be in Madrid,
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but let's say it's C1, C2 and C3,
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you'll start to look at how that tire has performed at similar tracks.
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And what I mean by similar tracks is similar speed corners,
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similar number of braking zones, all of these things.
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You start to look at tracks through the year.
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You might look a backy, a street track, similar type corners.
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So you'll start to take elements of the tracks you've been to in 2026
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and formulate a Madrid model.
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But it will definitely be the weakest model that you go in to on a Friday,
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which is why we always say at a new track, the Friday running is so, so important.
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And one of the reasons, for example, last year in China,
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having not been there for many, many years, having a sprint weekend was really, really difficult.
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So the learning that you get on Friday in Madrid
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is really, really important to try because that model will be less accurate than the others.
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Hopefully that explains it.
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It explains it perfectly.
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And we should just say if you knew it a formula one, the reason why
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sprint weekends can be particularly difficult, particularly on tracks like China,
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where there isn't loads of data is because the teams get less practice time.
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There is usually three free practice sessions over the course of a weekend
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for a sprint weekend that goes down to one.
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And then we, of course, have sprint qualifying and the sprint race.
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And again, if you're slightly new to us,
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Pirelli has five compounds of tyre of which it selects three
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to be that weekend's soft, medium and hard tyre.
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Those five compounds are named C1, C2, C3, C4 and C5.
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You can see how they came up with the naming formula, which is very logical.
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C1 being the hardest and C5 being the softest.
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Well done to all involved with that.
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It's an excellent naming system that I hope stays for many years
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because if I can understand it, there's a chance other people will too, Bernie Collins.
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Let's go to Joel. Hi, Joel.
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Joel says, hello, I listen to this podcast every week.
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Joel, we appreciate you.
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Joel says, while watching free practice one in Suzuka,
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the commentators were talking about resurfacing the track.
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I presume they meant the track had been resurfaced,
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as opposed to the commentators have done it themselves.
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I don't think that'd be Alex, Jake's a strong suit, but fine.
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How does that affect the cars, the strategy and the weekend overall?
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So, yeah, this is the second Japanese grand prix in a row, Bernie,
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where a part of the track has been resurfaced.
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How does that affect things?
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Yeah, so the track has been resurfaced.
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I think it was like two thirds of the track this year,
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I think from turn seven to the end of the track.
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And yeah, you're right.
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The commentators, we talk about it a lot,
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because it does have a bearing,
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so there's a few things that will have a bearing on.
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And some of them will seem very minor,
16:50
but when you're trying to get in the very detail of the strategy,
16:53
it makes a big difference.
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So the first one is track roughness.
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And that is when you look at the track or you look at the asphalt.
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Sorry, I always say tarmac, which is the wrong word.
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When you look at the asphalt.
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Tarmac is a brand name.
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And asphalt is the right name.
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It's like when people say do the hoovering.
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I mean, you shouldn't do that because it's a that's the right.
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It's the vacuuming.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Yes, the asphalt, there we are.
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Other brands of asphalt are available.
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I presume, I don't really know.
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So just to me, yeah, anyway,
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but I always struggle with the word asphalt.
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So you could see that's made up of tiny little stones
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and you can have a look when you're riding a bike.
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You'll see some surfaces that are
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lots of gaps in between the stones.
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You can clearly see the stones.
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That'll be quite rough tarmac or asphalt.
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Then there are some that almost look like
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perfectly polished, very, very smooth.
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And those the difference of those two surfaces
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has a massive effect on the tires
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because the very, very smooth surface
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has a lot of contact part of the tires
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and the very, very rough surface
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because it's got the gaps
18:03
has much less contact part of the surface tires.
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So the smooth surface will have a lot more grip.
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Think of it like sandpaper.
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So if you've got the very rough sandpaper
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and you've rubbed that across a tire,
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you're taking lots of surface off the tire.
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So the rough tarmac as well as being
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not as much contact patch will lead to higher degradation.
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Borean is a prime example.
18:28
Very, very rough tarmac asphalt,
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very high tire degradation.
18:33
So that's the first thing we're trying to check
18:35
is the new asphalt that they've put down
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is it rough or smooth?
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Does that match what they've done before?
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And that is the biggest contribution by far.
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The second is how clean or dirty is it?
18:49
Over the sessions, we talk a lot about track improvement.
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Track improvement is because we are putting
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some of our own rubber down on the track
18:57
and that has had been to increase the lap times,
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increase the grip, allow drivers to brake later.
19:02
So the track improvement is another thing.
19:05
So how many races have there been before us?
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How long is it gonna get to get that tarmac up to speed?
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Then the final, maybe more minor point
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is how dark is the tarmac or asphalt?
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The darkness sets the track temperature.
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So if you can sometimes see on tracks very dark patches
19:25
and in that patch, the tarmac or the asphalt
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will be a higher temperature
19:30
and that affects sort of things
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like tire surface overheating.
19:36
So those are the three elements of tarmac
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that are important.
19:38
It always amazes me in Formula One
19:40
that little things, where it seems little on the surface,
19:43
like attractory surfacing can just change everything.
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And I've been in paddocks for race weekends
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where attractory surfacing has changed everything
19:52
and it's the talk of the weekend.
19:54
It's, yeah, such is the technicalities of the sport.
19:57
This is a good point to take a little bit of a break.
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When we come back, and me and Bernie
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have had a preview of this, when we come back,
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I think one of the cutest moments
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in F1 Explains history is on the way.
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If that doesn't make you stick around,
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I don't know what will, back in a second.
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Attention, together we answer America's call to win.
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We were made for this.
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Welcome back to F1 Explains.
20:52
My name is Christian Hugill.
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I'm with Bernie Collins, the former Formula One strategist
20:56
where we're doing some quick fire questions
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F1ExplainToF1.com is the place
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to send your emails, your questions.
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You can send them in the form of just written words.
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We don't mind the written word on this podcast,
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but if you would like to hear your voice played to the world,
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which some people think is a wonderful thing,
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some people find it absolutely terrifying,
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but if you're happy to do so,
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attach a voice note to your email
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and we will play it and it will go all over the world.
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That is exactly what this list has done.
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Hi, I'm Jeremy from New York
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and I like listening to F1 Explains.
21:34
And a question I have is how expensive is it
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to race a team in Formula One?
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I mean, that's one of my favourite voice notes we've ever had
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and I'm going to sound really British here,
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but I love Jeremiah's cute, young New York accent,
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like a proper little New Yorker.
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I just think that's adorable.
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It plays very cute.
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Bernie, I'd love you to go through the answers.
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So, yeah, how expensive is it to race a team in Formula One?
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I'm guessing, Bernie, it's very expensive,
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but I believe you can help us break down a few of those numbers.
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It's very expensive.
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It's definitely, well, I don't know Jeremiah's background,
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but it's probably too expensive, but we have...
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Joe, I was going to listen to this and think,
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you know what, these numbers are realistic.
22:29
Yeah, so the teams have what's called a course cap,
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so it limits how much they can spend in a given year
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on the running of the car, the team members' equipment,
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getting everything to the track.
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And that number, and I'm going to read that off to make sure I'm right,
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Yeah, which is about £170 million,
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which is coincidentally how much it costs us
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to keep producer Chris employed.
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I don't know if you knew that.
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I have been wondering.
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I have been wondering.
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Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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But that doesn't include things like driver's salary,
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the salaries of the highest three paid members,
23:10
and it also doesn't include things like market and activities.
23:12
So when you say, I guess maybe Red Bull are the best of it,
23:16
running demo cars in the middle of maybe New York,
23:20
wherever they run it,
23:22
those types of things are not included in that course cap.
23:24
So actually, in reality, the entire team,
23:27
the marketing and the sponsorship,
23:30
all of the other aspects that go with it,
23:32
actually costs a lot, a lot more than that.
23:34
We don't have a number in that
23:35
because some teams spend more than others,
23:39
but the $250 million is what teams are under
23:45
for each season to a lot.
23:47
Yeah, $215 million,
23:48
£170 million or 199 million euros,
23:53
according to producer Chris as Matthew,
23:54
which is usually extremely reliable
23:56
in terms of our conversion.
23:59
I mean, we're not doing live conversion tables here,
24:02
And yeah, the cost cap,
24:05
I remember when it was first suggested, Bernie,
24:08
being a controversial thing that was suggested,
24:10
but actually, I think it's sort of been universally welcomed
24:14
in Formula One nowadays in terms of helping
24:17
some of the smaller teams on the grid
24:19
get profitable and stay in profit.
24:22
But also, and I won't name any names,
24:24
but there's definitely, Bernie,
24:26
here is where you and I were watching the sport
24:28
when we were younger,
24:29
where the team that was winning in Formula One
24:32
was simply the team that was spending the most money
24:35
and the cost cap stops that
24:37
is how you spend your money
24:38
rather than just having the deepest pockets.
24:41
Yeah, I think that is true.
24:42
I think that there are still obviously an historic,
24:46
you know, the teams that have spent the most money
24:48
in the past are still some of the leading teams
24:50
because it takes time to build it up and get these things.
24:54
And sometimes teams will invest that money
24:56
in infrastructure or other bits in the background.
25:00
So it's still that historic aspect is still there, I think.
25:04
And we should also say as well,
25:06
there's no necessary guarantee
25:07
that the teams will make the cost cap
25:09
and that's where prize money
25:10
in the Constructors Championship
25:12
becomes extremely important.
25:14
Teams haven't just got that money
25:15
definitely available to spend
25:17
and it's not like it's a case of,
25:18
oh, it's easy for us to reach that cap.
25:21
And that's why, for example,
25:23
you know, Williams coming fifth in the championship last season
25:26
is huge for a team like Williams
25:28
compared to coming seventh, eighth or ninth
25:30
because the money increases the further you get up the table.
25:34
Jeremiah, wonderful voice noting.
25:35
Thank you for listening, we really appreciate it.
25:37
We're going to stay in the United States of America now
25:40
and go over to Wade in California.
25:42
Wade has emailed F1Explains at f1.com
25:46
after turning the final corner of a hot qualifying lap,
25:51
why do drivers steer towards the center of the tracks
25:54
as they approach the finish line?
25:56
Why don't they stay along the edge
25:58
which is a slightly shorter path to the line?
26:01
It never fails to amaze me,
26:03
the small details that our listeners notice.
26:06
Excellent detail from Wade.
26:07
Bernie, what's the answer?
26:09
Yeah, so I think it all very much
26:11
depend a little bit track to track
26:12
but the exit in that final corner,
26:15
I think the priority is the exit out of the final corner.
26:19
So you, whatever trajectory you sort of come out of,
26:22
if you think if we're going to do a second lap
26:24
that it's important to take the shortest distance
26:27
that you can to the first corner
26:29
and make sure that your entire straight is very well
26:32
and done, whereas the line's obviously
26:35
always much closer than the first corner.
26:38
So they just get the exit of the last corner
26:40
and then try and get to the line as quickly as possible
26:42
and the difference in distance is generally very small.
26:45
It'll be more extreme the effect that he's talking about
26:49
based on where the start finish line is
26:51
compared to that final corner.
26:54
The other thing is it'll also vary a little bit
26:57
based on the traffic particularly behind the driver.
27:01
So in any given straight,
27:04
if they can move a little bit off the racing line,
27:07
so a little bit away from where they would optimally be,
27:10
it means that the driver potentially starting a lap behind
27:14
doesn't have any sort of a toe down the mean straight.
27:17
So you don't want to help the driver behind
27:20
who's starting their lap a little bit faster
27:23
than they would otherwise have been.
27:24
So there's a few aspects I think going into it
27:26
but the overriding one is that
27:29
you're not so worried about where you're aiming
27:31
on the straight, you're just worried about getting on power
27:33
as quickly as you can under the final corner.
27:35
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
27:37
Wade, great question.
27:39
This next one is for Martha who is in Ottawa in Canada.
27:43
Martha says, in qualifying,
27:44
when multiple cars don't set a time,
27:48
how do they pick the order they get to be on the grid?
27:52
And when multiple cars have pit lane starts
27:55
for changing parts,
27:57
how do they decide the order they get
28:00
to come out of the pits?
28:03
So the grid, as we know,
28:04
is normally set by the lap time that people have set
28:08
in their relevant qualifying positions.
28:10
So the top 10 in Q3, for example,
28:12
if, let's say, two people don't set a lap time in Q1,
28:17
then there's a number of criteria we start to look at
28:20
in order to give them their starting position.
28:23
So it might be, the order is,
28:27
drivers who tried to start a lap,
28:29
so drivers who left the garage did a lap
28:32
and then started to the cross-control line
28:35
and started a time lap.
28:36
So they're the first group.
28:38
The second group is drivers who left the garage
28:42
and at least started their out lap
28:43
but didn't get across the control line.
28:46
And then the third group
28:47
is people who never even left the garage.
28:50
So there are the three groups that people are put into.
28:53
So if one driver went out and did a lap and a half,
28:56
he's ahead of a driver who went out
28:57
and did half a lap, for example.
29:00
And within those groups,
29:01
so let's say two drivers go out
29:03
and they both start a lap but don't finish it,
29:06
then the way that it will go is they luck
29:08
to what those drivers set in their last competitive session.
29:12
So if both of those drivers were in P3,
29:15
they'll take their lap turns from P3.
29:17
If one of those drivers wasn't in P3,
29:19
they'll go back to P2 and so on.
29:22
So that's how they formulate their positions.
29:26
Now, if they've not set any lap time at all
29:29
in the qualifying session,
29:31
and obviously they need to be given permission
29:34
so they need to have proven to the FII
29:37
that they are capable of setting a good lap time.
29:40
And so that's one thing to think about.
29:42
The pit lane start one.
29:43
So if a driver has some penalties
29:47
or an issue on the way to the grid
29:48
or forced to start from pit lane,
29:50
basically if they get to the end of the pit lane
29:53
five minutes before the start of the race
29:55
or more than five minutes before the start of the race,
29:59
they are forced to line up with the pit lane
30:01
in their qualifying order.
30:03
And that uses the same sort of breakdown
30:08
that I just outlined.
30:08
So even if they don't qualify in order,
30:10
they'll be given a position.
30:12
So they go to the pit lane in that order.
30:14
So if someone qualified P5 and someone qualified P10,
30:17
in the pit lane, they'll be one and two respectively.
30:21
If they don't make it to the pit lane
30:23
until after five minutes before the start of the race,
30:26
they simply line up in the order that they got there.
30:31
So if they both go with four minutes to go,
30:33
they just like hit whoever gets their first to basically.
30:36
And that's to stop us trying to rearrange cars
30:38
in the pit lane with less than five minutes to go.
30:41
Now, a bonus answer.
30:44
Unless there's a very good reason
30:47
or there's lots of cars start from the pit lane,
30:50
the majority of people remain in their garage
30:54
right up until the start of the race.
30:56
So they remain in the garage with their tire blankets on,
30:59
everything nice and warm, everything under control.
31:01
And then they go to the end of the pit lane
31:03
because it's a bit of an advantage to have your tires
31:05
that little bit hotter than it would be
31:07
if you're on the grid.
31:08
So that's why you tend to see people
31:11
shooting out of the garage very, very late on,
31:13
just rolling to the end of the pit lane
31:14
and then starting the race.
31:16
But if there was five, six, seven cars,
31:18
you'd see them like a mini grid in the pit lane.
31:22
You've given a bonus answer.
31:23
I'm gonna give a bonus answer to a question
31:25
that Martha didn't even ask,
31:27
but it reminded me of,
31:28
I think we've had this on F1 exposed before,
31:30
of when drivers set identical qualifying times
31:34
and how that gets determined.
31:35
Now this has happened twice in recent seasons
31:37
in the 2025 Spanish Grand Prix,
31:39
Max Verstappen and George Russell set identical times.
31:43
They had fun together that weekend, didn't they?
31:45
In the 2024 Canadian Grand Prix,
31:48
again, Max and George both recorded
31:51
identical qualifying times.
31:52
That one was particularly satisfying
31:53
because it was a one minute 12 dead.
31:56
But in the 1997 European Grand Prix at Hereth,
32:01
that is the only time in Formula One history
32:02
that three drivers have set identical time.
32:05
Jack Villeneuve, it says here Schumacher.
32:08
Do we think that was Michael Schumacher or Ralph Schumacher?
32:11
If producer Chris could find out for me,
32:12
I'd be extremely grateful.
32:13
A Schumacher and Heinz-Harald Frenzen
32:17
posted exactly the same time of one minute 21.072.
32:22
And in that circumstance,
32:23
it is whoever sets the time first
32:26
gets to take the first grid slot.
32:29
Producer Chris, do we know whether that was Michael
32:31
or Ralph Schumacher yet?
32:32
Because it's of imperative importance before we move on.
32:35
The breaking news is it was Michael Schumacher.
32:38
There we are. Thank you, Chris.
32:39
The breaking news there from the 1997 season
32:43
that it was Michael Schumacher.
32:44
Had Ralph even started F1 in 1997?
32:47
I don't, I would say no, yeah.
32:48
No, I don't think he had, had he?
32:50
So I'd gone myself into it.
32:51
He's completely needlessly there.
32:54
Anyway, no, producer Chris says,
32:56
do you want me to check that as well?
32:57
We'd like to check that.
32:59
I'm sure Ralph will be happy.
33:02
Chris says he's got to earn his money
33:04
that we've talked about earlier somehow.
33:06
Yes, well done, Chris.
33:07
You've done a fabulous job.
33:08
Right, Bernie, a final question before we let you go.
33:11
And this is from Chantal, who says,
33:14
I'm a long-time listener on Spotify,
33:16
but this is my first time sending in a question.
33:18
That could be you, by the way.
33:19
If you've been listening to this podcast for ages
33:21
or you found this this season,
33:22
you've never sent in a question.
33:23
Just someone in, f1explains at f1.com.
33:25
Chantal says, with Bahrain and Saudi
33:27
not happening in April,
33:29
will the FIA and F1 let the teams work more on the car
33:33
to allow for changes and improvements?
33:35
Will they let teams actually run a car on track?
33:39
Bernie, I've been DM'd this question a lot
33:41
on my Instagram recently.
33:43
So two questions there, Bernie.
33:46
Firstly, can the team work on the car
33:49
to allow changes and improvements
33:50
and upgrades and that sort of thing?
33:52
Yeah, 100% they can.
33:53
So the teams that we work in tirelessly in the background
33:57
through simulator work, through wind tunnel work,
34:00
through dyno work, for example.
34:03
And dyno, I mean, it could be an engine on a rig
34:06
to try and improve that or see what the deficits are on that.
34:09
It could be a gearbox.
34:10
It could be the whole chassis sometimes.
34:12
So there'll be lots of work going on in the background
34:14
in order to try and improve the car,
34:16
bring new components, bring new front wings,
34:18
rear wings, whatever the case may be.
34:20
That's naturally happening in the background a lot anyway.
34:24
It's just that this case that the team that you see
34:27
at the track will also be back at the factory to help with that.
34:30
So normally in the factory,
34:31
a lot of that activity is happening.
34:33
As well as that the other benefits to the teams
34:35
that are trying to catch up is they're not trying
34:38
to repair the broken parts
34:40
from two races that we're missing.
34:42
So a lot of turnover in factory in terms of producing parts,
34:46
getting them to track,
34:48
transporting them to different places,
34:50
none of that bit's happening.
34:51
So you can switch resource from making a new front wing
34:55
because someone damaged one in China
34:57
or someone damaged one in Saudi
34:59
in order to get in the parts that you need for Miami.
35:03
So that will all help in order to bring it together
35:06
and there will be a big effort.
35:08
And it's important to say, isn't it?
35:09
F1 does have mandatory shutdowns in a calendar year,
35:14
two of them, the summer break
35:15
and the winter break,
35:16
where you are not allowed to do any work
35:19
and that is basically to force the teams to have time off
35:22
because we know they're workaholics in Formula One
35:24
and if they could be working on Christmas Day, they would.
35:27
But this is not one of those, is it?
35:29
This is just, we've obviously in the unfortunate situation
35:32
where we've not got racing,
35:33
but people aren't off as such.
35:36
They are still, I mean, James Vowles has said
35:38
they'll be using the break to produce new parts,
35:40
reduce the weight of the car.
35:41
He wants Alex and Carlos in the simulator,
35:43
teams like Williams who've got work to do,
35:45
they will be working, won't they?
35:47
Yeah, I think a lot of teams will be working,
35:49
we'll be seeing this as a really good opportunity
35:50
to try and catch up.
35:52
You know, I know some teams have been struggling for parts
35:55
and they'll be trying to get themselves up
35:57
to a fullerious supply of everything.
35:59
So that will be happening as well as the upgrades
36:02
that they want to try and bring.
36:04
And you just save time in every aspect
36:07
because you're no longer running simulations
36:10
of boring and jetty, you could stream it into Miami,
36:12
you could do lots of pre-event work from Miami.
36:16
So it will really help the teams that are struggling
36:19
and I think that the teams like Mercedes
36:21
who have the upper hand at the moment
36:23
would actually have preferred to get the two races,
36:26
get the points from those two races on the board
36:28
before the teams develop their cars.
36:30
So yeah, the factories will be full working hours.
36:34
Hopefully most of the traveling team
36:36
do get an opportunity for a few long weekends,
36:39
but yes, it'll be enhanced to the pump,
36:42
as we say, in factories.
36:43
I would like to hope there were some long weekends
36:45
and I would like to hope there's at least a couple of Lyons.
36:47
That's what I would like to hope,
36:48
but you never know, they're hard taskmasters
36:52
And then the second part of Chantel's question was,
36:54
will the teams be able to run a car on track at all?
36:58
Well, I think some people might have seen
37:01
that there was some wet tire running in Suzuka.
37:03
That was a planned wet tire task
37:05
which was always going to help run out from Suzuka.
37:08
Teams can have, basically have to choose
37:11
which Pirelli tire tests are going to do during the year
37:14
and they'll choose it based on what suits them best.
37:16
So there were some teams involved in that post-Suzuka
37:20
running in order to test intermediate on my tires.
37:24
But aside from that, teams won't be able to say,
37:27
okay, we don't have a race this weekend,
37:29
so we're going to go and run the car at Silverstone.
37:31
That won't be allowed to happen.
37:33
So they won't be able to do a full test somewhere else.
37:36
What you might see teams doing,
37:38
and it depends on what they've done before the season,
37:42
is there's a limited amount of either demo running
37:45
or promotional film days that they're allowed to do.
37:48
And they might use some of those days to test some parts,
37:52
but they are very, very limited in mileage
37:55
and they're not the correct tires.
37:58
So those may be used,
38:01
but for example, I could envisage Mercedes
38:04
using a demo day, 50 kilometers,
38:07
I think is what a demo day is limited to,
38:09
in order to give their drivers start practice.
38:13
So just do start practice.
38:16
So there's things like that that might happen,
38:19
but it won't be a test day like we see in Bari
38:22
and pre-season testing or in Barcelona this year.
38:26
It'd be very, very limited, Roman.
38:28
Yeah, Birdie's done a great job of explaining
38:31
that there are some elements
38:33
where there are very limited tests available,
38:35
as I say, testing tires for Pirelli, that sort of thing,
38:40
other than those very limited exceptions
38:43
and filming days and that sort of thing.
38:45
Formula One bands mid-season testing since 2009.
38:52
That was to, again, help costs
38:55
because it's expensive to run test teams,
38:58
which Formula One used to do,
39:00
and also helped with Formula One's environmental impact as well.
39:04
So yes, for way more than a decade now,
39:06
Formula One hasn't done mid-season testing.
39:08
There was pre-season testing, which is a proper test,
39:12
but other than that, no, teams are not allowed to go out
39:15
and do a test day on a track like Silverstone
39:17
or a test track that is restricted
39:19
to pre-season testing only.
39:22
Bernie, this has been a pleasure.
39:24
We've covered a lot there, haven't we?
39:26
We've done strategy, we've done testing,
39:28
we've done the roughness of circuits.
39:29
We've got through a veritable smorgasbord of F1 questions there.
39:33
Yeah, like you said, we've done quite a lot.
39:34
And just to echo your point you said about Chateauby
39:37
and our first-time listener,
39:38
there are no stupid questions
39:40
to just send all the questions and we'll answer them.
39:42
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
39:45
And it's one of the things...
39:47
We've mentioned a few times this season that we've...
39:48
I mean, Bernie, you've been with us
39:49
since one of our very early episodes,
39:51
but this is the start of the fourth season
39:54
And it's not just, as we've always said,
39:56
there's no such thing as a stupid question,
39:57
but also some of the things our listeners think about
40:00
that I've been watching F1 since the 90s
40:02
and have just never thought about it.
40:04
So what a great question.
40:05
I've never thought of that.
40:06
You continue to amaze us with your questions
40:08
at f1explains at f1.com.
40:10
Bernie, will you get a little bit of a pause in this period?
40:15
Yeah, I've got a few weeks in the UK
40:18
so I can get back on the right time zone,
40:19
which my body is very much looking forward to.
40:22
And so, yeah, I've got a little bit of downtime
40:26
and then I'm back out in Canada.
40:28
So that'll be good.
40:29
Fantastic. Bernie, it's always a pleasure.
40:32
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40:35
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40:43
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40:47
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40:49
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40:51
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40:54
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40:56
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