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Ferrari Has a Bad Week, INDY 500 Recap - Shift & Steer EP570
Ferrari Has a Bad Week, INDY 500 Recap - Shift & Steer EP570
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About this episode
Ferrari drama takes center stage as the hosts riff on a controversial design choice, compare an odd rear-end shape to a “Testarosa” and “F40,” and question Ferrari’s push to broaden its audience with electrification. They also debate whether “Ferrari DNA” can survive a performance EV strategy, including talk of “Ferrari Smart,” pricing, and even a Tesla stock-market aside. The episode then pivots to an INDY 500 recap—tiny time gaps, pit strategy, and a costly front-wing issue—before wrapping with museum/auction chatter and sponsor reads.
Topics:
0 to 60 time
aerodynamics
brake dust
electric motor
gas monkey
horsepower
paddle shifters
range
real time sound
top speed
Cars:
AM General Humvee
Chevrolet Chevelle
Ferrari F40
Ferrari Luce
Ford Falcon
Mini Cooper
Tesla Cybertruck
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Car
Ferrari Testarosa
"[510.7s] it looks like an old Ferrari Testarosa [512.9s] that's a rear end [513.7s] or an F40."
The Ferrari Testarosa is a famous Ferrari supercar with a very recognizable look. Here, the host is saying the rear shape reminds them of that car.
The Ferrari Testarosa is a mid-engine supercar from Ferrari known for its distinctive side strakes and wide, angular styling. In this segment, the host uses it as a visual reference for the car’s rear-end shape.
Car
Ferrari F40
"[512.9s] that's a rear end [513.7s] or an F40. [516.0s] Yeah, I said"
The Ferrari F40 is one of Ferrari’s most iconic “old-school” supercars. Here, the host is using it as another reference point for the car’s rear-end styling.
The Ferrari F40 is a legendary mid-engine supercar built for the 1980s/early-1990s era, famous for its raw, track-focused character. The host compares the rear-end shape of the car they’re describing to the F40’s look.
Car
Tesla Cybertruck
"Let's blame Elon because the Cybertruck I think made a lot of people brave"
The Tesla Cybertruck is an electric pickup truck made by Tesla. It’s designed to look very different from most trucks, with sharp, boxy lines. People talk about it because it’s a big, bold change in how a truck can be styled.
The Tesla Cybertruck is an electric pickup truck known for its distinctive, angular “stainless-steel” look and futuristic design. It often comes up in conversations about how EVs are changing what a truck can look and feel like, and it’s a frequent topic when people discuss bold, polarizing design choices. In the podcast context, it’s mentioned as something that made people feel more willing to take risks.
Car
Ferrari Luce
"vintage luce? There's already AI of like it's sitting"
The Ferrari Luce is mentioned as a vintage-style Ferrari idea. The podcast talks about AI images of it, like showing it sitting in a picture. The main point is the look and how it’s being visualized.
The Ferrari Luce is referenced in the podcast as a “vintage” Ferrari concept-style idea, with the speaker also mentioning AI imagery of it “sitting.” Because the discussion is about how it looks rather than driving specs, the focus is on the visual concept and how people imagine or visualize it. In this context, it’s brought up as an example of a design that’s already being represented digitally.
Car
Mini Coopers
"but to me Fiat and Mini Cooper's were kind of leaning into that anyway"
The Mini Cooper is a small car made by Mini. It’s designed to be fun to drive and easy to maneuver because it’s compact. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as part of a trend toward a more distinctive, personality-driven approach.
The Mini Cooper is a small, compact car that’s typically associated with sporty handling and a playful, recognizable design. It’s discussed alongside other brands in the podcast because it represents a “leaning into” a certain style or attitude in its lineup. That makes it a common reference point when people talk about how manufacturers market personality in small cars.
Term
paddle shifters
" [1207.6s] visceral you know when you hit the [1209.6s] paddle shifters yeah when you hit the paddle shifters [1213.8s] it is something that's"
Paddle shifters are the little controls you pull behind the steering wheel to change gears. They let you shift without moving your hand to a gear stick.
Paddle shifters are the small lever controls behind the steering wheel that let you manually command gear changes without using a traditional gear lever. In performance cars, they’re often paired with an automated manual or dual-clutch transmission so your inputs can change gears quickly.
Term
electric motor
" [1215.5s] amplified from the electric motor [1217.5s] so instead of using a soundtrack [1219.3s] of something that they did in the studio [1221.8s] they're actually picking it up [1223.6s] from some sort of tuning [1225.2s] sensor that's coming off the electric motor [1227.8s] so it's real time sound [1230.1s] but not from [1231.6s] the engine but from the [1233.9s] motor so"
An electric motor is what powers an EV or hybrid by using electricity to spin the wheels. In this discussion, they’re talking about using sound from that motor instead of an engine.
An electric motor is the propulsion unit in an EV or hybrid that converts electrical energy into rotational motion. Here, the host is describing how the car can generate or capture sound from the motor itself (via sensors) rather than relying on engine audio.
Term
real time sound
" [1225.2s] sensor that's coming off the electric motor [1227.8s] so it's real time sound [1230.1s] but not from"
“Real time sound” means the car’s sound changes immediately as you drive, instead of playing a fixed recording. It’s meant to feel more responsive to what the car is doing.
“Real time sound” here means the audio is generated or captured instantly based on what the motor is doing right now, rather than using a pre-recorded soundtrack. The idea is to make the sound feel more directly connected to throttle and driving inputs.
Term
0 to 60 time
"so let's talk about the performance numbers [1255.8s] 0 to 60 in [1257.1s] 2.5 seconds"
It’s how fast a car can go from standing still to 60 mph. Lower number means quicker acceleration.
“0 to 60 time” is the elapsed time it takes a vehicle to accelerate from 0 mph to 60 mph. It’s a quick, standardized way to compare straight-line acceleration between cars.
Term
top speed
"[1261.4s] 192 mile an hour top speed [1263.3s] with those aerodynamics [1264.9s] oh yeah"
Top speed is the highest speed the car can reach. It depends on things like how slippery the car is through the air.
“Top speed” is the maximum speed a vehicle can reach under its own power. It’s influenced by aerodynamics, gearing, and power delivery at high speed.
Term
aerodynamics
"[1261.4s] 192 mile an hour top speed [1263.3s] with those aerodynamics [1264.9s] oh yeah"
Aerodynamics is how the car’s shape cuts through the air. A more efficient shape can make it faster and use less energy.
Aerodynamics is how air flows around a car, affecting drag and downforce. Better aerodynamics can improve efficiency and help a car reach higher speeds with less power.
Term
horsepower
"[1266.0s] it has a thousand horsepower [1269.6s] yeah but you can build [1271.1s] that into a golf cart these days"
Horsepower is a measure of how much power the car has. More horsepower usually helps the car accelerate harder, but it’s not the only thing that matters.
Horsepower is a measure of engine (or motor) power—how much work the vehicle can do over time. Higher horsepower generally supports stronger acceleration and higher-speed capability, though it’s not the only factor.
Term
range
"and it's not impressive that [1276.9s] it only has a range of [1279.0s] 330 miles [1281.1s] that's average"
Range is how far the car can go before it needs more energy. For electric cars, it depends a lot on how you drive and the weather.
Range is how far a vehicle can travel before it needs to be recharged (for EVs) or refueled. For EVs, range is heavily affected by driving speed, temperature, and how efficiently the car uses energy.
Car
Humvee
" [1351.9s] Humvee [1352.8s] did they even build that or did they just [1355.8s] finish it I have no idea [1357.7s] but I remember seeing it going across the block"
“Humvee” is a famous military truck. People collect them because they look tough and are built for rough off-road driving.
“Humvee” is the common nickname for the military HMMWV (High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle), built by AM General for the U.S. military. It’s known for its boxy, utilitarian look and off-road capability, which is why it often shows up in collector-auction culture.
Term
brake dust
"someone was snorting brake dust yeah it says you were sporting brake dust"
Brake dust is the gritty powder that forms when your brakes are used. It can collect on the wheels and make them look dirty faster.
Brake dust is the fine particulate that comes from brake pads and rotors during braking. It can accumulate on wheels and nearby surfaces, and some pad compounds produce more dust than others.
Brand
Gas Monkey
"and gas monkey here rebuilding a $1 million 6x6 Ferrari from gas monkey"
Gas Monkey is a famous car-building brand/show that does custom projects. Here, they’re credited with rebuilding the modified Ferrari.
Gas Monkey is a well-known automotive brand/media identity associated with custom builds and restorations. In this segment, it’s mentioned as the shop that’s rebuilding the “6x6 Ferrari.”
Car
Ford Falcon
"go and I almost bought a little a falcon convertible a little red falcon convertible"
The Ford Falcon is a car model made by Ford. It was available in different versions, including a convertible. The podcast mentions it because someone was considering buying a red convertible version.
The Ford Falcon is a model line from Ford that’s known for being offered in many body styles, including convertibles. In the podcast, it’s brought up because the speaker almost bought a red Falcon convertible, which highlights how these cars can be appealing as classic, style-forward projects or purchases. The Falcon is often remembered for its place in the broader history of American muscle-era and everyday classics.
Car
Chevrolet Chevelle
"...t the proportions right you know should I take my Chevelle that I'm doing and make it into a Six-Wheeled Che..."
The Chevrolet Chevelle is a classic American car, often thought of as a muscle car. It has a distinctive look with bold proportions. The podcast mentions it because someone is considering modifying one into a six-wheeled custom idea.
The Chevrolet Chevelle is a classic American muscle car known for its strong proportions and wide range of trims during its era. In the podcast, it’s referenced in a creative way—talking about taking a Chevelle and turning it into a six-wheeled concept—showing how iconic the car’s shape is to builders and customizers. That kind of discussion usually centers on how the base design can be adapted for unusual projects.
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you. Hey, everybody. Welcome to
the party pals. This is uh
and you know, the gang's not
all here today. That's right.
I bet you're thinking that
Aaron's gone and it's just
Matt and I but you'd be wrong
because it's just Matt and
Aaron. I'm an AI voice of
Brad. No, um, Aaron. How are
you, buddy? How's it going?
Good. Good. So, so, so if
it's AI, Brad, when he says
welcome to the party, pal, he
means capital P. A. L. Right?
Yes. Yeah, pal. I, I, I'm
Australian. I'm I today. The,
um, uh, Matt, Matt, Matt,
Matt D'Andrea. Yeah, that guy.
Yeah. He's not here today
because he asked for the day
off because he wanted to go
down to Hollywood and he got
a hold of me and he said, hey
Brad, um, you know, uh, Adam
Corolla is getting a star on
the Hollywood Walk of Fame and
I'd like to eat.
be there. Yeah. And I said, I
said, well, let's take it as
an opportunity. We'll all come
and we'll do a live shift and
we'll steer right from the
sidewalk and there was silence
and I said, I'm just kidding.
And, uh, he said, he said, no,
I said, no, go for it. I said
Aaron and I'll handle it and
we'll be the ones who all talk
about all the coolest stuff
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You know what I told him when he
said that, Aaron? What?
I said, I would have wagered
money that you were going to say.
That's what I said. That's
what I said. I would have bet.
I would have placed a bet.
But, uh, you know,
it's, uh, it's, um,
it's one of those things
but now he'll have fun down there
today and congratulations to
Adam for getting this star.
Yeah, that's really cool.
It's a big deal. I've been working
on mine and, um,
they have not yet got
into, um,
South Central where they're putting the stars down
so I don't get mine yet.
I'm going to put
one out in front of my house but I don't have sidewalks
in my part of the... Yeah, there you go.
Just get a paver, trim it down
and put it in the grass. Yeah.
Well, you know, I could just 3D print
one and then inlay
it in my driveway.
Have you gotten
a 3D printing did? Do you have one?
I haven't. I would like to, but
I've got to be honest with you.
I have so many projects and so
many things that I'm juggling
right now that as much as I would like
a 3D printer, I,
and I, and I'm using it right now too.
You know, I'm, I'm bringing back
my sunglass line. I think I told you.
Oh yeah, cool. So
for those of you that don't know
my, uh, my blue lens sunglasses
that I wear all the time, I had such a reaction
to that.
Um, I prototyped them
and I, uh, I was going to
launch a some, Bond Speed Sunglasses
they were called Circle B brand
and, uh,
then the, this thing called the pandemic came
and, uh, and,
and so getting stuff out of
Asia and like that was just
crazy. So I just
put it all on the shelf.
Well, I've had people over the years ask me,
hey, you ever going to do those? You ever going to do
those? And so
I, uh, finally decided, got
back ahold of my suppliers and like that
and
um,
the way we're doing them is
really interesting because we're going to, we're going to
bring them in,
but then the
identification for the Circle B
brand, we're actually 3D
printing the little emblems
and it's amazing how
small you can get stuff. Oh yeah, especially
resin printers. Yeah.
And they apply to the bows and
uh, so that we've got a really nice
dimensional logo on each side and
um, cool. And when you press
them, it does
absolutely nothing. Right.
It gives you a headache.
But I'm sure that, uh,
by doing this, by trying to get these going
again, that, uh,
we'll probably have another like an Ebola
outbreak or something like that. Oh god,
I was just reading on all that stuff this morning.
Well, I don't know,
but man, it's just something else. The world's coming
to an end. Oh, great.
Oh, great.
Don't get me started.
Um, yeah, I know.
It's like, yeah, I was watching the news
last night and they said,
doctors in the um, in the Congo
are saying that it's out of control.
They cannot control it at this point.
And then, you know what they say?
They go to the very next
segment and they go, people from
all over the world to be converging
in every city in the United States
for FIFA.
And I'm like, you know, starting next month
and I'm like, oh great.
They'll be bringing Ebola from every country
in the world to, to
every state.
Oh my god.
We'll see what happens. I know it's such a mess.
The world is such a mess. Then I heard this morning
that the highest paid
athlete in the world,
do you know who it is? Huh?
You have any idea?
No, no.
What sport do you think it is?
I don't pay any attention to sport.
What sport do you think it would be?
Yeah, F1, of course.
Nope, you'd be wrong.
I'm really throwing you off on that one.
It is what we were just talking about.
Soccer.
Really? Wow.
His salary is 300 million a year.
Oh my god.
300 million a year.
Take care of those legs, buddy.
Man.
You know, you work 34 years
in your billionaire
and, uh, wow.
I wonder what he's crazy.
You know what, I'd be interested in what he keeps
after all of his managers
and his people
and his trainers and his nutritionists.
He's like, yeah, I got two grand
every month, man.
He drives a 99 GTI
and 260,000
miles on it.
Oh my goodness.
But hey,
did you ever watch
when you were younger, did you ever
watch Lucile
Ballshow? Sure, yeah.
Yeah, you remember her husband? I love Lucile.
Ricky Ricardo? Yeah.
Is he Arnaz? Yeah, does he?
Ricky Ricardo? Yeah.
I imagine this
that
when they announced the new Ferrari
the other day
that if he would have been around
you would have heard him saying
Lucile,
you got some splinting to do.
Lucile, you got some splinting to do.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's
everywhere. It's all over.
The memes are just hilarious.
The AI videos are just
hilarious.
But there's been some really good renderings on
look, all you had to change was this.
If you just change this
it makes it okay.
And think about it.
It made it not just off the designer's
board, but
through the board and through all the people.
Exactly.
Yeah, like did nobody challenge it
and go, you guys, you know what?
You might want to rethink this a little bit.
The former chairman had
no
he didn't hold anything back.
You are ruining the Ferrari brand
and even the department of
transportation in Italy
that's them.
Italy and Ferrari, they said
what are they doing?
This is ridiculous.
I'll tell you
when I saw the back of it
where it's this weird
shape and then right in the center
it looks like an old Ferrari Testarosa
that's a rear end
or an F40.
Yeah, I said
it looks like a Teletubby
swallowed a
I know there's so many great comparisons.
I mean, there's so many great
comparisons. I've been sending out pictures of
Twinkies, but there's so many
great comparisons.
Look at the Teletubbies, pull it up and
you look at them and there's this
funky shape thing
and all the bright colors
and everything and it's like
yeah, you take a Teletubby
and it's swallowed a Ferrari.
Well, obviously there's a lot of opinions
and there's just everybody's
got an opinion.
But our friend David Lee
who is never going to say anything bad
about Ferrari because he is
he is the Ferrari guy.
Oh, he's Mr. Ferrari, yeah.
Yeah, he wants that alignment.
But to his point
he had some interesting things to say
and to paraphrase
he's talking about look
Ferrari wants to expand its
audience. It wants to expand
into a category that
isn't normally Ferrari and they
want to gather up those customers and those
customers don't want aggressive
looking cars.
And it's like I understand
that idea,
but it's very idealistic.
I think it's like why does Ferrari
want
Hyundai's
market, right?
Like Ferrari's Ferrari.
Their only market is themselves.
They have everything going for them.
Why would they try to
I don't want to say compete, but to dip
their fingers into a market
that has nothing to do with them.
If you're going to electrify
you're going to be appealing to a younger
generation that likes electrification
and just stay on
mark with the brand and its design
and its core and its
legacy and its DNA
as we talked about pre-show.
Why
dip into something that's so not
Ferrari? Yeah, it's got some cool
bells and whistles and features on the interior.
Absolutely. Some of that stuff
is wicked cool and creative
and innovative, but it's not
Ferrari. It doesn't carry that DNA
and that's where I think a lot
of the opinions come
from. It's like look you guys
what were you thinking?
Again, if you're a Honda, absolutely
awesome. If you're a Hyundai,
absolutely awesome. If you're
any other company, but Ferrari
it makes zero sense.
It's not progress. If you remember
Aaron
I'm going to say maybe 10 years ago
you, I and Matt
we all had lunch
with the CEO
of Ferrari.
One of his questions directly
to us was
how do we get a younger audience?
He goes, our audience
our customer base is
aging and
he goes, how do we get younger
people to want a Ferrari?
And we gave
a lot of our ideas. We shared
thoughts and
and but
when I heard them say
they are trying this
cars to market to a
young audience
of millionaires, of tech millionaires
who
have never owned a Ferrari or wanted
a Ferrari.
That's
that's this big of the pie. It's a
teeny tiny itty bitty sliver
right? You're going to do that though. If you're
going to take away the Ferrari
DNA, if you're going to strip it away
except for your logo
and you're going to make
a performance EV
why not
just start a new brand?
Exactly.
You know, you are not
you're not appealing. You're not extending
your brand.
What they should have done is made
something that they thought
you know would appeal to
that audience not appeal to what
they have now. They already have that.
Hey Brad, I got a great name
for it. Not Ferrari. Fusili.
Call it Fusili.
Fusili.
Fusili.
Ferrari's new subdivision of electric cars.
Fusili. You know, it's like
the smaller pasta that has a little
bend in it.
A little bend in it.
Please, no one be offended.
And then on top of all of that
WTF
you know what that means
$600,000
starting price
not as optioned
starting price.
Oh my god.
I mean they want those millions from those tech millionaires.
I miss that.
Is it really? Yes.
The starting price is $600,000.
I thought they were a couple hundred.
I had heard like 220 or something
which was ridiculous. No.
And they said
one of the things that the CEO
said was we are not
going to make this
a
you have to buy this to get the next
you know Ferrari
Smart.
Because we want younger buyers
to get it and it's not going to
we don't want to force our buyers to have to
get in an electric car
and I'm like
yeah because that might really be like
you know because we know they do that
we know this personally that they do that
Yeah.
You got to buy a loot tray to get a
you know.
I think David
mentioned that in his vlog too.
Well you know what I mean we can blame
Elon Musk.
Let's blame Elon because
the Cybertruck I think
made a lot of people brave
and
maybe Ferrari's like well you know
look at the Cybertruck
like that's ugly that's stupid
but people buy them up like crazy.
Yeah but they're not $600,000.
No.
Not even close.
And they make sense because
Tesla's kind of batshit crazy
and that's awesome so
probably the biggest
you can look at what journalists
have said. You can look at what
people like David have said but
what we can really look at
is their stock market price.
Yeah I was going to say
their stock price fell
16%
on the day.
Yeah.
And I mean that is
that should tell you pretty much
what you need to know.
I mean that tells people are not
enthusiastic people are not excited
and the market is not
liking that at all.
No so
yeah in fact.
They're trying to look right now to see what their stock price is at.
So I'm
curious and I was having a brief
conversation with my buddy Rick
about this.
Rick's saying the stock market
you can't look at it day to day, week to
week, month to month. You have to look at it annually.
It'll all balance out and I'm thinking
yeah
but the reputation of Ferrari
may be so much at stake.
So is this going to raise the value
of already classic Ferrari's
through the roof? Any design by Pina
Farina? Is it going to
launch that stuff
way up even more?
Can you even see that? Yeah
yeah yeah I see it.
The dip is when they launched
and now you can see it has not
come back. Yeah
I mean that's a lot.
Yeah well
time will tell we could all be wrong
I doubt it but you know but hey
we're all talking about it.
If that's the future I don't want to
be there.
If that's what Ferrari looks like
can you imagine 30 years from now
that guy's going hey how about that
vintage
luce?
There's already AI of like it's sitting
in a barn it's coming apart
and you know the tech doesn't work anymore
and it's just a brick
and it's like what do you do with it?
You can't restore it.
Like what are you going to do with it?
It's even the interior
is beautiful. I love the interior
but it's not
Ferrari.
Nope.
If somebody conked me out and put me in that car
and didn't have any badges showing
and they said
okay what car are you in? I'd be like
um
Alexis or a
you know
Brad I have to disagree with you there
I still think it's Italian
so if I would think it would be
Fiat
or maybe like a new Abarth
or something like I would have guessed
I still would have guessed Italian
believe it or not
but that's center did you see that center screen?
Yeah looks like somebody took
an ipad
and just made it big. Well that's because
it's an apple guy which makes sense
but to me Fiat
and Mini Cooper's were kind of leaning
into that anyway
but to me just the finishes
of edges and things to me
it's still a little Italian
I think they managed to
to keep that
contemporary Italian
styling
interior now
to me still had
a little bit of that going on
a little bit of that going on like
when
when Jeep and everybody
like you want to say Atlantis
you know when everything
was Fiat
to me it still had some of that
design DNA because Fiat was kind of
leaning into that tech look
which was kind of cool
but yeah I don't know
if anybody's going to warm up to this thing
it's
man that's one of those that really
it's a shame
and how much should they spend on all this
a billion? Think about the development
costs and
and you know
when we saw that Jaguar
come out earlier last year
and it was such a design
departure and it was such a
just a big blobby car
and everybody
said
well you know maybe people like it
you know
and now
they've like just gone quiet
they fired all the design team
and they're going to start over
we don't know what they're going to do
but if you also look
and we could be wrong
Rolls Royce had their
spectra their electric spectra
yeah they sold a thousand
units
at like what four or 500
thousand a piece
so maybe there is a market for people
enough
uber wealthy people out there that go
hey I want to be the guy who has one so that
yeah it's 600000 dollars
a piece I don't know what their
margin is going to be at how many they have
to sell but they very well may sell
just enough to justify it
well Ferrari's
that's their whole
business model
is that they have the biggest
profit of any car company
in the world so
that's why they do so well
they're a small company don't make a lot of cars
but they make a lot of money
maybe they'll sell enough to where it doesn't
matter
maybe some musician will buy one
and he'll get his car through those pickups
going playing some good riff
and
now that the pickups
Brad's talking about is supposedly
the audio sounds coming out of
the interior to give you that
visceral you know when you hit the
paddle shifters yeah when you hit the paddle shifters
it is something that's
amplified from the electric motor
so instead of using a soundtrack
of something that they did in the studio
they're actually picking it up
from some sort of tuning
sensor that's coming off the electric motor
so it's real time sound
but not from
the engine but from the
motor so
we'll see
and if you look at
if you look at some of the other
car companies though Lamborghini
Pagani Lotus
they've all scrapped their EVs
yeah they announced
them with big fanfare and then they scrapped them
so let's talk
about the performance numbers
0 to 60 in
2.5 seconds
can't argue that
192 mile an hour top speed
with those aerodynamics
oh yeah
it has a thousand horsepower
yeah but you can build
that into a golf cart these days
I mean that's not impressive I'm sorry
and it's not impressive that
it only has a range of
330 miles
that's average
that's very average
yeah it should be
400 or 500
I don't know
let's just say it was not a good week
for Ferrari in more than one
way
there was another Ferrari that was debuted this week
and I'm surprised
that Ferrari didn't go over and sabotage it
or burn the place down
oh you thought about Richard Sixwheeler
let's just say the
gas monkeys Richard Rawlings hit the wall
again
oh my goodness
that thing
so what you think Aaron I know
we're on two sides of the fence here
you love it you think it's
design aesthetics at the
highest level go ahead and let them know
were you reading my journal
I was
were you reading my nightmare journal
oh my
there's just nothing good about that car
you know what
what Sixwheeler's are amazing
exactly
Sixwheeler that he sold for like what
half million bucks or something
that Bear Jackson that was the
the slam down flattened out
Humvee
did they even build that or did they just
finish it I have no idea
but I remember seeing it going across the block
and the price going up
by hundreds of thousands
are you hitting me
there's still a market for that stuff
that's just a generation of people
that want that it's just
it's not it's silly but
I mean this for
you know
the Humvee I could look at it and go
from a cartoony type over the
top truck type of thing
but
this thing
it just doesn't even look right
it looks right I know
it's horrendous but think of his
he's a businessman
from his point of view
the
lunatics that buy these things
are going to love it
and he should do a Lamborghini next
I mean he should
absolutely do a Lamborghini next
and then he should do a Bugatti next
why because some
knucklehead out there
well yeah he sold this one the guy who
owns what is it
gimmeavin.com or whatever
oh there you go see
bottom I mean
all these are commodities
these days you know dad's law
Ferrari's up again at bottoms I don't know
if it's sold or didn't sell it it's also
in the robbery port now or whatever
but they're asking nine or 10000000 for it
it's just a commodity it's a story
it's something that's unusual
and rare and one of a kind
and people want it not the kind of
height that a six wheel Ferrari has
but it's just a
type machine that's all those things are
I'm seeing a six wheel
the
mini in your future
oh I think that's already been done
okay I think that's a ten wheel
how about
a six wheel like a Tyrell
F1 car where the
the two sets wheels are in the front
and they see it
you know one of those lives up here
supposedly the off car it lives up here
it's an interesting compare
yeah I it's been
a long time rumor
supposedly at one time there were two of them
up here but yeah
I think one of those six wheel
you ever see them fool around on the street
no no no it's in a collection
there are some car collections up here
that would baffle the mind
there's some stuff up here
that's hidden up in Tahoe
you know whenever I
think about it I just I'm blown away
at the car collections that exist
and yeah you know
but let's go back to this
Ferrari that gas monkey built
I mean
okay
first of all you know what kind of motors in it
no you know I haven't looked at
anything I've just seen it pop up I haven't
watched the video I haven't I don't know
anything about it okay
I've been moving to just
so everybody knows I'm not just ignoring
the world we moved out of
that Sonoma back up at Tahoe
we're trying to get this house listed in the next
30 days so
I haven't been in touch with much
of anything other than patching holes
and painting walls
patching holes and painting walls
sounds like my house
apologies I know you keep
moving all the time man you're always
it's been hey I moved out of the museum yesterday
we can talk about that after too
okay so under
well under the hood under
in the back of this car
it's a mid-engine still right is a super
charged
GM based
LT 4 4 27
okay okay so the Ferrari
motors gone
the
the power apparently goes to all four wheels
through some kind of custom trans
axle
and
so it's not just dragging
two sets of wheels it's
supposedly has power going to all six
wheels
all right excuse me
all four wheels
on the six wheeler I'm pulling this
up so so I so I can keep up with you
here you're what I'm pulling
this up on my phone so okay
here so but
where I lose it
where I lose it
oh yeah I think nuts
the very front of it first of all
it's it's way too high
for a Ferrari and I don't know why
I'm trying to figure out why
what's going on there
you know that the splitter
on underneath the front is like
I don't know
eight inches off the ground which
you know yeah but
underneath the grill that whole section
would be lower
that's what I'm saying it's weird
I don't understand
and then and then as we
get to the back this doesn't even
look real it looks like a rendering
you know what that's exactly
right because when I first saw it
it looked like something somebody built out of
a model car kit you know
well you know what to do what they
did and get the axles in there and get
everything into work it looks like they
had to raise the entire car
that's what I say yeah and
raising the entire car and making it
flat then they had to build this
substructure underneath to kind of
bring that body line down
I did not follow
the build on this
but I imagine they built
like a tube chassis or something
and then set the body on it is what
hey fabrication more power to
man this is this is wild
you know
I mean they built that f40
that hot-rodded f40 a few years
back and it
rolled across the
the block at Barrett Jackson
and I watched it sell
and it was a little rough
and it's built in my opinion
but it was a cool car
and
you know
but
I don't know I just
it seems to me
unnecessary
it's like you could have done a lot
of other things
to a car like this
rather than put
and it's so open and so
it's almost like it's unfinished
in the back you know it's and the rear
wing is funky too
yeah it's very unusual
I'm saying stuff here that gas monkey
actually didn't build it
Danton Art Customs
which I'd be curious to see
if they're the ones that built that
Hummer as well and
they're doing something with gas monkey
and gas monkey maybe is doing the finishing
and marketing I'm not sure
but there's a lot online
about this other company
actually building it
the centerpiece of the build
visually is a massive custom
rear wing 3D modeled
and fabricated by gas monkey garage
okay so they did the wing
I don't like the wing
some sort of collaboration
I don't know okay
from an original concept
derived
by a
what is this a
a
a brake dust
infused
Aaron Hagar
who rendered the car
someone was snorting brake dust
yeah it says you were sporting brake dust
and then you did it for him
but I don't know
hey you know what
they're out there doing stuff
I don't hold that against them
and they've done lots of video
and the guy at
vincar has been getting lots of video
time about it too
you know what youtube's blowing up
and gas monkey
here rebuilding a $1 million
6x6 Ferrari from gas monkey
you know
who knows but the internet's blowing up
we're talking about it on our show
I know we're talking about it
we're talking about it
they say it's valued at $1.5 million
yeah mission accomplished
you know
alright
hey
the indy 500 was last weekend
and I know you were
right on the edge of your seat watching it Aaron
as always
Aaron Aaron Aaron
it's an American heritage
and you don't watch it
I'm just not into sports
I just
I'm not into sports either
and I'll admit I don't sit there
and watch it on the edge of my seat
I kinda check in
if I'm not there
I can go to a basketball game
and if I'm there I can get into it
but I never watch
stuff like that on tv
my wife was teasing me
because she's like
how many episodes of this guy are you gonna watch
I've been watching
Von Gartner
Fine Art Restoration
I've been watching this guy
he's got 7 years of videos
2 million subscribers on youtube
youtube is my main tv channel
that I watch
I watch more youtube than anything
me too but this guy
I'm watching the process of art restoration
and it just blows my mind
because it's brilliant
it's science
it's chemistry
it's art
it's everything
it's craftsmen
it's all these beautiful categories
of art restoration and preservation
and I'm totally into it
I think I found my calling in another life
but that's what I watch
I do not watch sports
of any kind
I only watch half my car shows anymore
I'm just watching art restoration these days
my wife watches more
motor sports than I do
for the outfits
she does that with the Indy 500
she wants to see what the wives are wearing
and what diamonds they have on
but
when we used to
sponsor with my watch company
a lot of cars
we used to sponsor all the Don Pradoam team
and all those guys
she would
she would have it
down to
Larry has to go two rounds
to get his points this week
she knew it
I was so impressed by that
you've mentioned that before
and when we sponsored
Robbie Gordon's
NASCAR and his Indy car
she would be
Robbie did this
I was traveling
she'd give me all the fill in
and she knew all the drivers
she's not as much into it anymore
because
we're not sponsoring anyone anymore
but she's still
she'll tell me
I was selling NASCAR or Indy cars this
the only one she's not really into
is F1
because of course we never sponsored anybody in F1
but
it's pretty amazing
it's pretty amazing that
she gets into it
and she'll fill me in
and I'll go oh who's leading
Pro Stock this year
and she'll give me the low down on it
so
but let's get back to the Indy 500 here
and
just got a recap
it was a win
by the smallest margin
ever in the history
of 100 years of
the Indy 500
really
we're talking inches here or feet
we are talking two hundredths of a second
oh wow
it was
it was quite there
it was amazing because Palo was leading
almost the whole day
and then
it's such a strategy
it's so unusual you think
most of the time
you're leading the race
nobody can get around you
and you know he would kind of go back
let people back then he would go up
and there was like three guys
that were pretty much leading the whole race
then you get back down to that
that last pit stop
and the strategy comes in
and
he dropped back to like sixth
because of the
the way they were pitting
and I thought yeah but he's so fast
and he's so dominant he's going to get around him
he did come up
but then at the very last
the guys with the newer tires
and fuel
put it in
it was pretty amazing
because
David Malukas
he came up and it looked like
he was going to get it
they were coming out of the last turn
and Eric Rosenquist
excuse me Felix Rosenquist
I mean
he played it so good
because
Malukas was blocking man
you know he was looking at his river mirrors
the guy dropped out and he went over
dropped down
and the guy kind of faked him
he kind of went like he was going to drop down
then went and he
put the pedal to the metal
and I mean when you see the photo
it is such a close race
it was awesome
he earned it he really did
but one of the things about the
Indy 500 this year was
it was good racing
it was not just
you know the same guys
going round and
it was some good racing
there was a lot of good strategy
and
you know and then you start
all the things afterwards like
Chip Ganassi Racing was fine
10,000 for
a
front wing
height
you know something was wrong with the front wing
on Alex Polo's car
they're calling each other out
you know they come around
and they check them out
and
you know now Dave
designed some of the paint jobs on some of the cars
oh
I got to see those
but it was a great race
it was really really good
and it was
it was fun to watch
now
you know we should take a break here
when we come back you should tell us about this auction
that's coming up with bottoms
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we are back we heard from all of our
sponsors
and
and
well speaking
of sponsors so the national
automobile museum in Reno
is looking for sponsors so I'm going to be
poking around at some of our automotive
friends and seeing if they
they want to get involved
with the museum that the museum
you know
Phil has been doing a great job
kind of getting the museum up to speed
it used to be the hair collection
and it's a very very traditional
museum and I've been a fan
of it since I was a kid
but
in modern times I've actually
you know what I didn't
but when I was in high school
they had let some of the cars
go and I almost bought a little
a falcon convertible
a little red falcon convertible
and it was red on red
I mean it had like 60 miles or something
on it I think it was a 61 or 63
and
dad and I were really like that would be really cool
and that was the first I really kind of
heard of the hair collection
and started following it a little bit there
so when I started working up at Tahoe
at Harris at the cobble level
up here we had
you know it became more of a conversation
and I never made it down to the museum
until like the last
five years or something and now I'm
all about it I'm down there all the time
I'm doing events with them all the time
they've given us a beautiful
display with the woody wagon
and the cobble wobble bike and some old
signage from the cantina up here
and that beautiful red rocker bike
from a wonderful fan and gentleman who passed
away who donated the bike
to us to put in the museum and my
friend Kenny's little bike in the museum
and it just it's been a
wonderful journey. Well
they're working with Bondams on
June 13th and they're going to auction off
a good chunk of that museum
I didn't see the
actual number I'm guessing near
or around 100 cars now I believe they
have near over 300 cars
in there and they're just bursting at the
seams so I would think
that this is to not only make
some room but to get some capital
for changes
they're looking at doing
you know almost 300
events a year
some big numbers Phil's really pushing
the museum which is in the top five
of the nation's greatest automotive museums
it really is
I mean you know we can all argue that the
Peterson just is incredible
and also has the funding
well the National
Automotive Museum in Reno hasn't had
the funding it's all volunteers
and you know it really is just a
mom and pop museum. But even so
you know
there's been
a couple times that the Peterson Museum
has sold a large number of cars
people forget that
these museums aren't
any different than any private collection
where from time to time
there's cars that maybe they're not
drawn as much attention or maybe they've been
in the collection so long that
people don't want to come to the museum because they don't want to
they've already seen it they feel like
you gotta have new things
same reason they put in new displays
you know and new exhibits
and as you said
if there's some remodeling or something they
want to do they may sell
some cars that aren't as enthusiastic
or maybe
serve their time and they
you know can do new renovations
to a museum. Exactly
and a lot of these cars to me
the bulk of these cars are cars that I don't
recognize
pre-war cars you know 10s
20s 30s
maybe cars a lot of brass cars
a lot of wooden wheel cars
but some very unique
and beautiful examples and I'm sure they're
quite valuable there's a weird little
Fiat prototype which
I would love to own there was
only one car in that collection and I'm like
I would own that you know like I wonder
if nobody wants it I might be able to get it
I wonder if there's a minimum you know
but they have two lands or three land speed record
you know vehicles one of them
is electric they have a couple old
looks like
NASCAR like back when it was
just dirt racing like
like in the 50s like a sedan
with the doors welded shut exactly
yeah they have a couple of those for sale
maybe get one of those wooden wheel
brass cars you can make it a
six-wheeler
six wooden wheels
but you know they do have
some really neat cars I was hoping they'd let
some of their micro cars go they do
have one micro car that I think is going
but but they have a lot of like
little Austin's and
Morgan's and like cool little cars I'd love
to have but none of those are going
pretty much one room he said
everything in this room is going
and most most of that stuff
was pretty some chords
you know
some things I've recognized
but but really really neat cars
brass Eric kind of cars
so if you're interested you can go on the bottom
site and look at the National Auto Museum
coming up June 13th but in
that the room
that the auction is going to take place in
is the room that our current exhibit
was in
in there I think the only exhibit they're
leaving in there is the Elvis exhibit
which is kind of a core
a core piece because it was one of Elvis's cars
so what you're saying is Elvis
has not left the building
Elvis has never left that building there was some
pretty neat stuff in the back of that trunk
that that Phil has shared with me over the years
but so we removed
our exhibit I took pretty much everything
out but a piece of art
and the woody wagon which will stay there
on a more permanent basis
for now
there's no plan in taking it out soon
we may revisit having
something else in there and we may revisit
doing some other things
but yeah that the museum is moving forward
aggressively with some new
exhibits and new stuff
he's got cars like the cars
from the Pixar
film cars coming in
he's got
a whole
I forget what they call it
Fast Alley there'll be Indy car
in there some spectacular
race history in there
that I think Tom has sponsored from
Pick and Pull so really
really cool stuff but he's lining up
sponsors and I want to see if
some of our automotive
friends would be interested
in sponsoring you know much
much like any business
that they can buy a room
they can buy a wing
they can buy above the door
Michelin it could be Michelin
national automobile museum
so he's looking to
Brad Fanshawe gallery right?
there could be the Bond Speed restroom
yeah
a Bond speed urinal
it could be the rat runner garage soda machine
oh sure you get
a soda machine
well we're
bookends we got covered and we got
covered out you know
enter and exit but anyway
it's a neat opportunity
to actually
to get your shoulder in there and get your
brand in there which I think might be interesting to some
people it's a pretty neat historic
place and I think they're going to get some more
full-time employees
because the volunteer it's so sweet
the volunteers help me move out of that place
and I was like any of them are any younger
than 70
that's usually what the museum
people are they're all retirees yeah
oh and they're all passionate people
and they're so cool so thank you gentlemen
for
helping me grab those big heavy items
yesterday lots of carts lots of moving
blankets I put them all in my little
Aaron carried a book and he made these 70 year old guys
carry like heavy heavy
boxes and all actuality
I did I carried the lightest stuff because
I threw my back out a few days
moving stuff and I have to
say Brad I really hurt
myself this time it was
I could barely walk for two days it was pretty
bad so I was on
light duty yesterday but I'm doing
better today
so thank you the backs are no
good backs are no good when they're hurt
no the 70 to 75 year
olds were we're out backing
the 56 year old
out backing
so
I was going to ask you
something
did you
did you
damn
it just left my memory
just oh did you hear
you know
the F1 driver yes
of course yeah did you hear what happened
no
Swiss authorities
said that
mass gang invaded
his villa near Lake Geneva
and he was injured during the
home invasion
you know I've spent a lot of time in
Switzerland as you know
that's unusual for Switzerland
so unusual for Switzerland
I mean
it is such
a nice country
so beautiful and the people are so good
but it just shows that
everything but he's
71
you talk about 70 year olds that's what made me think about it
four time world champion
was attacked by several
intruders who entered the family's property
and
to rob him and he suffered
a head injury during the incident
and
I guess one of his sons was forced
to open a safe and yeah
it's like cash man you know it's
oh
it just sucks
yeah that's terrible
yeah
he
he returned
I guess after this happened
he went to Dubai
he splits his time between Switzerland
and Dubai not a bad life
not a bad life whatsoever
if you like Dubai sure
I mean
you spend those cold winter months in Dubai
and you spend the
you know
recently Dubai hadn't been so great
with all the war and everything
but that just you know come on
people yeah come on people
or taste come on
you can do better right is that what they say you can do better
yeah
you know the one thing that you didn't
even bring up about the Indy 500
is they did do the second annual
Oscar Meyer Weenie 500
what
you didn't know about that
no
they get all the Wiener mobiles
and
how many are there
huh how many are there
six of them I believe
okay I believe it was six
and
they
they said that
it's
here's their slogan where the elite race
their meat
that's funny
you got to get your Wiener to the
inside faster
than they can make a move from behind
it's just legit
no these are quotes
from the event
conditions here
slippery not yet wet but how does it
make handling for your Wiener different
these are all quotes from their on-air
people
that's funny
but yes it's the second year
we talked about it on the show last year
I don't know if you were gone that day or what
but
there is a video on YouTube
if you want to look at it the Oscar Meyer
Wienie 500
well that's funny
according to a quote it was dog
dog eat dog on the track
can you imagine racing those
big old giant things around
around the track
no not at all
not at all
even the vintage ones
I don't know
I don't know where they get them
I didn't know there were so many of them
but I kind of thought there was like one
or two of them and that was it
I thought after all these years
there would probably be more
when was the first vehicle built in the 60s
I have no idea
I don't know the history of the Wienie mobile
to be honest with you
I just saw something on it recently
maybe not be the 60s
but I don't think it was
I think it was a while ago
do you know the clothing designer Paul Smith is
yes of course
did you hear that they are doing a
Paul Smith edition Mini
oh yes I think I saw that
yes
Mini is doing some
interesting stuff
I met someone recently who was
good friends with the lead designer
who is a woman
and then somewhere else
I met someone else that
was good friends with the old designer
or was the old designer
I met some interesting people related to the
Mini world lately
Mini should hook up
with Oscar Meyer
I thought there wasn't a Mini Oscar Meyer
no remember there was a Mini
Winnie
motorhomes
they could have the Mini Wiener
the Mini Wienie
they could get them together
they could get them together
and see what happens
and then next year they could race Mini Wienies
no I thought someone did
do a Winnie mobile
with the Mini
yeah
you know a dance
the shirt merch I always wear
they've done some really interesting stuff
with Mini too
there's some I think it was them
anyway there's some very cool
Minis out there
that they've done some neat stuff with
I'm excited to hear that you're going to be doing
a Six-Wheeled Mini
it already exists
now you need to do one with the
Aaron Touch man come on
maybe a Six-Wheeled Mini Wienie
yeah there you go
you'd have to
to get the proportions right
you know should I take my Chevelle
that I'm doing and make it into a Six-Wheeled Chevelle
yeah maybe
but you should do the front end of a Six-Wheeled
that's what I was saying with like a Tyrell
there you go
you should do a Tyrell front steering
a Tyrell Chevelle
Tyrell Chevelle
to Shell
no just a Tyrell Chevelle
Tyrell Chevelle
celebrate both names
see some AI artwork on that brand
might be kind of cool
might be kind of cool
that might be the cartoon
for this week's show who knows
either that
or somebody like Aaron holding up
a Ferrari
to his ear like he's making a phone call
does this thing plugged in?
does this thing plugged in?
can you hear me now?
no no I'd be shaving with it
can you hear me now?
alright
I think that's it for today we've just had too much fun
and I'm sure Matt will be back next week
to tell us all about
his view of the Ferraris
and
about being on Hollywood Boulevard
in the middle of the day
yeah good luck to Adam on that
congratulations
congrats to him
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and you can get them all
at BondSpeedStreetwear.com
use the code
1st10 at checkout
and get 10% off of anything that you buy
and come on
show me some support
I can't live on
my music royalties for the rest of my life
I need to get
I need to make some income here
yeah don't pull your shirt up down
and show Brad where you know the real deal
that's right man you need to have a shirt
that says Bond Speed Streetwear
so
alright everybody do you got anything Aaron
no and they're not off hand
at least not that I can think of
yeah
I've got some secrets
I want you to support that museum
National Automobile Museum
I don't ask for much but you know what
the museum would be great go check it out
it's gonna be exciting
cool alright everybody
we'll be back next week and that's a promise
not a threat we'll see you later
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