Fins Forward, Kook! - DWA! Podcast Ep. #898

The Driving While Awesome podcast is recorded live to SD card at the Beeline Motor Club in Santa Cruz, California.

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Welcome to Driving While Awesome. My name is Lane.

And I'm Art.

And Warren was, um, Warren, Warren has a special assignment. He showed up here and everything and then had to leave immediately. Nothing important, nothing too important, nothing, nothing bad happened.

Yeah, it was one of those group scene moments. It's kind of what we can call it.

Yeah, a little, we call it an oopsie daisy, whoopsie daisy, whoopsie daisy. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Do you say, how do you say tootsie roll?

Tootsie roll?

Tootsie, is it?

Tootsie, not tootsie.

Didn't someone say tootsie that we were laughing at a while ago?

Oh, did Warren?

Maybe, was it, did he say tootsie?

It might have been Warren, he says Camber.

Dang.

It could have been Warren.

Yeah. Have you ever seen the movie Tootsie?

I have not, but I remember the cover of it very distinctively, because it's that woman wearing a very bright sequin dress, right?

Well, it's Dustin Hoffman, right?

Well, no, there's, isn't on the cover like, because when I was a kid, a little, little background story here.

Oh, it's Dustin Hoffman. Is he like in drag or something?

Yeah.

Oh dude, I didn't even know. See, um, but I remember it was like a bright red or sequin, was it red or burgundy sequin dress?

Yeah, I think it's red. Yeah.

When I was in, when I was in high school, sorry, when I was a kid,

you're like, dude, I jerked off to that cover.

Damn it.

So when I was a child, my babysitter, so this is crazy.

My babysitter's parents owned a video store where I grew up, right?

And so occasionally the babysitter would have me at the store and just hanging out because she worked there.

And so she was, I was just kind of hanging out like doing the thing.

They had a couple of video game, you know, cabinets there.

So it was actually super rad. I loved it.

And I got to play video games.

I got to hang out, eat popcorn, candy, watch whatever movie I wanted in the back.

And, and I don't know that particular VHS always stood out to me.

It was right at my height.

And I remember that particular, I guess it's a drag queen on it.

Yeah. Yeah.

There's a few movies like that where you remember the cover and you never saw the movie or you totally don't remember the movie.

Like, remember that movie, Slackers?

Yep.

I always remember that, that cover.

It's like a guy kind of hunched over with his flat brim hat.

And it's like, I think that was Richard Linkletters, one of his first movies.

Okay.

You know, he made, famously made Days Confused and all those.

But yeah, there's a few of those movies where you're like, Oh, I know that cover so well, but I never saw the movie.

Totally.

Yeah.

Well, last episode, last episode of the podcast, we had a little memory card.

It was almost full.

So we had to rush through the end of the podcast and art's audio was fucked up because it is machine crashed during the middle.

So that's why you might have sounded a little different on the last podcast.

So we had like a whole comedy of errors, but the good thing is it was saved.

It didn't like totally something.

But then, but yeah, what I think what you're getting at is that we had a kind of expedite

are our, you know, contributions or car week contributions because I think I did like a, I think I did like a 30 second.

Yeah, a little brief on what I did, but I wanted to kind of like maybe I'll kind of talk about it a little bit.

What I did because I wasn't at car week for the first like three days.

I didn't get down to Monterey until Thursday late afternoon.

So I missed like motorlux and I missed the drive, the, you know, the tour.

I missed all that stuff.

So my beginning of the week was basically Clark, Sopper and I around cat racing drove up to Napa Valley in my nine, nine, eleven.

And we met up with some people from the Korn's group, which is the Korn's group is basically a dealership group that owns a bunch of luxury, luxury dealerships in Japan.

They own like Bentley dealer, Porsche dealer, Ferrari dealer, Lambo, you know, a couple others.

And we basically met up with their like a few of their like high end clients that were on a tour of Napa.

And then they were, we were going to lead them down to car week.

We led them down to car week on Thursday and they stayed at the, what's the hotel where RM auctions is right downtown?

Shoot, the spacing right now.

But they, yeah, they stayed at that hotel and it was like bringing them there and kind of like getting them to go into valet and all that stuff.

And so Clark and I were kind of like doing lead follow and kind of like the local knowledge people on this thing.

And then they had a, they had a couple of guys from Japan.

They have a photographer with them and then they had a journalist with them from Japan that was doing like a story.

And then like Ken Saito was supposed to be there as the photographer.

I don't know if you know Ken Saito.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

So Ken Saito was supposed to be it, but he had like, he had some obligations or something happen.

So he couldn't make it.

I did see him at the quail though, hung out with him for quite a bit.

And so, yeah, we were basically up there.

We, they were staying at this like really nice hotel.

The Portola is the one downtown, right?

Portola, yeah, that's right.

They were staying at a really nice place there.

They had a Ferrari SF 90.

There was only four couples.

And then there was like the, the guy from Korn's group.

So Korn's group also owns Magara Gawa circuit in Japan, too.

It's the coolest thing ever.

Yeah, it's so rad, dude, with a full spa and, you know, four star restaurant or whatever.

Yeah. So this is like, yeah, it's a member club, right?

Members only race track?

Yeah, it's basically like a race track country club sort of vibe, right?

Yeah, the same as thermal.

Exactly.

And do they have housing on site though?

Do they?

I don't, that's, you know what?

They might have a hotel.

I think they have hotel.

Oh, okay. Wow.

I think so, because it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, it's like an hour and a half outside of Tokyo.

It's in Chiba, isn't it?

Yeah, it's like, yeah, but yeah, it looks amazing though.

Yeah, it looks so rad.

There's that one famous, what's up?

What are the do's, you know, I don't, I forget what it is, but I believe

it's something, it was, it's something like 100,000 a year.

And then there's like an initial buy-in of, you know,

a couple hundred grand or something like that.

I don't, I don't remember the exact number.

Exclusive, but cool.

Yeah, it's not, it's not, and it's not the most expensive, like

there's golf clubs in Japan that are way more expensive too.

But it's definitely like the most high-end, like, and most expensive

car kind of club like that there.

Yeah, the facility is, I mean, as good as it gets, though, I mean,

if you check out the website, it's Magari Gawa is M-A-G-A-R-I-G-A-W-A.

So Magaru, Magari is to turn and Gawa is a river.

So it's like a flowing, turning river.

Cool. Yeah, it has that one turn that's really cool.

It's like built up, like it has the sheer cliffs on the side

with the guardrails and stuff.

It's really cool looking place.

But we met up with these, these basically these really good

clients, so there was only four of them.

They were in a Ferrari SF-90 that they, they rented these cars

in the States.

They were in a red Ferrari SF-90, red 296.

Is it GTB if it's a convertible?

Like if the top comes off, I don't know, anyways.

I don't know anything about the 296, except that the

start button is capacitive touch, which is insane.

The worst thing ever and Tesla style door handle.

So it's just like the electronic door handles.

Oh, wow. Like a button, you know, really bad.

And you don't know what you're doing ever.

And it doesn't make noise.

You don't even know if the car is on because it's electric.

It's a hybrid and then a Lamborghini, a purple Lamborghini Urus

and a Ford Mustang GT convertible.

Nice. Just so that's like the big rentals are there.

Yeah, rental spec, black on black, just so the guy that

rented that one, he he definitely could afford more.

And I guess he like somehow he was saying he has four

reservations this year to

what's his name's restaurant in Yontville?

The French Laundry, so he's like coming back here like three

more times this year to go to the French Laundry.

Oh, wow. OK, just for and he was wearing like a million

dollar Richard Mill watch to and he was renting a Ford Mustang.

Yeah, well, I mean, because he wanted to experience it,

right? It sounds. Yeah, and he wanted and he ended up

not liking it. So that's a big news.

So basically what I did with these people, we took

them on a tour. We did some rally like some of the roads

we've driven like Lake Berryessa Road, the road out there by

the lake. We did that with them. Turns out that this group

of folks was not that they weren't that much of drivers,

I would say. So I was like lugging the 9 11 and their

gear most of the time, like just lugging it. And then I

would have to like break and wait and stuff. Or I'd be in

second, even maybe lugging it on some sessions. I mean, I

guess they're just taking in the scenery, right? I guess it's

a whole new place. But I see you have an expectation based

on the cars they're in, right? They could have all had

rental spec Mustangs and just cruise around on that. Yeah,

they're very capable cars like yeah, and maybe the roads

are a little bumpier than they used to, too. Like that's

definitely something, you know, Japan's known for having

pretty decent roads. So we took a long route out to Sonoma Raceway.

We did like we did a little tour there and then we did like

10 parade laps behind a BRZ or whatever, whatever, yeah, BRZ,

I think, around that circuit. And I drove the 9 11. I was

like kind of tail trail them all like because I'm kind of

behind. That was kind of fun, though, was like, because

we were still like flooring it on straights. So you know,

get up to like, whatever, 100 miles an hour or something. And

then kind of like get I was at the back. So I was able to get

some like runs and stuff. Some like nice. Yeah, because

they're like put together. Yeah, because you actually need to

work now, even if they're driving at half of the or at

six tenths or whatever it may be, right? Because those cars

are way more powerful. And then they were going really

slow in the turn. So I would like let them go a little

bit. And then I would Yeah, it was good, though. But it

was the first time I've taken the 9 11 on track was

actually like, didn't it was actually pretty good. It was

like really nice. It didn't it didn't fall apart. But I also

wasn't driving that that crazy. But it felt great. So it was

fun. Those were turnkey out of the box for that sort of

thing. Yeah, it was good. And then the basically the rest

of the trip was like bringing them around to

wineries and stuff like we were basically like, we were

almost like drivers at one point, we were driving like

brand new Lincoln. And they were driving the Urus for that.

Like, no, I was driving like I was driving a Jeep. What's that

new Jeep? The big one wagon wagon here, dude. Yeah, I was

driving a wagon here. And then I took the Urus one night. I

had the Urus just to drive around one night. And I was

driving that around looking like a douche and like clicking

the, you know, you should have asked him to borrow the

million dollar Richard meal watch. He can have it on the

sale photo with steering wheel flex. I know. I know. Yeah, but

it was funny. Like we were there to like kind of help these

people concierge and we were very concierge at some point. It's

like helping them put gas in the cars because they didn't know

how to do it. Yeah. And a lot of stuff like that. So it was

cool. It was it was it was it I wouldn't say it was like

super fun or anything, but it was it was something. And it

was an experience, right? And then we ended up driving down. I

toured them down to car week on Thursday. We stopped in. We

stopped at the KOA camp up in above, I don't know, below

Pescadero, whatever that's called. What is it called?

Like Costa Noah or whatever?

Costa Noah, we stopped at Costa Noah, had lunch there, kind

of did that whole thing drove through crazy traffic in

Watsonville, made it down there. And then and then my rest of

my week was already kind of talked about. So but yeah, that

was my, I just wanted to kind of talk about that part of car

week. It wasn't it was somewhat exciting. I mean, I got to

drive a Eurus, I would say that is like there to they

started 250 grand, I want to say that is not a $250,000 car.

Yeah, it's all in that that badge, right? That's that's

crazy. It's like exactly like driving a Cayenne. Like it's like

driving a Cayenne with like a shittier UI.

Nice.

Like everything is kind of worse, like cat, like these

capacitive touch buttons and screen like stuff in the middle

and this big old weird, like the star button under the lid for

some stupid reason. Of course, the shifters, the shifter

almost looks like those. It's like a more slower profile version

of those like dodge automatic shifters with the two rails

going off. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like that

with a side. Yeah, it's very hollow in the middle. Well, it's

very aeronautical, right? Like I'm everything you said. So far

you said that you flip the switch for the for the start

button and then you go and you pull the thing. It's all

like it's all airplane shit, right? It's like jet plane slash

boat. I would say. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Jet boat slash jet

plane. Well, so what you're saying is it didn't drive that

excited or it wasn't that excited to drive and you looked

ridiculous in it. So that sounds pretty rad. Yeah. Yeah. It's

kind of like the worst of all worlds. And then it also

doesn't even look. This one was purple. So it definitely

stood out, but they actually don't even look that crazy

because when you really look at them, I think now they've

been out for a while. It's like, they have a bunch of

crazy, like weird body work on it. But it almost is

like, it's like akin to like a last gen Prius. I

would say where it's like the overall shape isn't that

crazy. And then it's just has these

all the details and aggressive. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they

haven't really bothered me that much. I'm just thinking

more like it's more of a status thing, right? Like

sinks. It's like the there's like the G wagon people and

there's the Urus people, which is a whole other, you

know, so you know, whatever. I mean, not status, but

image, I guess, you know, I'd rather be a G wagon

person because I think G wagon at least has like, it's

such a different vehicle from everything else. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Versus just like an SUV hunt, like with the

hunchback thing that everybody's doing these days.

Nothing's like a G wagon. It's like it's on this like frame.

It's very like, at its core, it's a very like off roady

thing. It's like real. It has a lot of compromises. But

it's been like adopted by all these like status symbol

people. And then the Urus is literally just an Audi or a

Porsche. Yeah. With like an with an uglier body on it.

With a with a flashy, attractive body that attracts

the ladies when you roll up to the Biltmore. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

I mean, that's yeah, it's a whole other world. But yeah,

I mean, I guess it's interesting to hear, you know,

that there is a market there for what you're

describing, right? Like, and this is, I wonder what's

happening globally, right? Like, because people come

from everywhere to car weeks. So there's like a German

like contingent, there's French people, there's like

people from the UK that come that need assistance. Yeah.

Like, I mean, you know, it's one thing to give

people guidance, but it's another thing to actually

like handhold and put them through the process and

just eliminate barriers, right? And people want that,

like, especially at a certain, you know, a certain

level and status, you're just kind of like, all right,

I'm willing to pay for people to just assist and make

this a smooth experience. So we don't have to think

about it and sort it out. But yeah, I am last year,

James from Throttle House texted me and he's like,

dude, like last minute I decided to go to car week.

Is there any way you can help me with some guidance

on hotels? And I'm like, dude, like we're talking

like two weeks out. And I'm like, you're looking

at a motel six in Salinas or Watsonville or,

you know, wherever you can at this point.

And he's like, dude, all right. So he started

looking around. I told him, check Airbnb's, you know,

whatever. And he found an Airbnb in San Jose.

So he was driving all the way out, dude.

Like that was that that was all he could find.

Like everything was completely booked within a certain

price point and all that. But yeah, but I mean, yeah,

like all that kind of stuff, you know, in advance,

people don't know, right? Like you got to plan

all that stuff in advance and, you know, where

you're going to be and all that jazz. But yeah.

So how cool people like where I mean, I don't

know if I guess maybe it's all private.

And I can't probably talk about it too much, but like

they weren't, you know, there was some nice people

and there was some people that were a little bit

doing that. Yeah. A few of them were a little more

highfalutin. Ifalutin thought they were shit.

You know, they looked at your they looked at

your spare topsiders and they're like, where are

your Gucci loafers? Like how could you and wear

those things? Yeah, one guy was like one guy

was dressed like Ferrari head to toe. Oh yeah, bro.

Like we're talking Ferrari watch for our glasses

for our belt for our shoes for our shirt for our hat.

Very cool. Everything. All the Ferrari

things dude. I love it. And I think he any owned

every modern Ferrari basically.

Yeah, but it was cool. And then I did go to, I don't

know. I don't think I talked about it. I did go

to the racetrack on. Oh, no, you didn't.

I actually do like it sucks because the more I

saw of, you know, what was there and, you know,

and who was there, all of that, like just our

friends and the cool cars that we love, like

finally they brought out the F1 cars that I care

about the most, right? Like yeah, because

historically it's usually the cutoff. It's

like early 80s and those cars are fine, but

like it's really into the mid to late 80s

that all the really cool shit came out and

then into the early 90s, even mid 90s.

And so it's finally happening, right? We're

and I know there was the big celebration, but

I couldn't be there that with a weekend,

unfortunately, and I had been there since

Tuesday. So I was definitely already super

spent. I can't even imagine like trying to

pull a Saturday after all that, but I

was spent too. Yeah, I mean, I was spent

too and I barely, I didn't really rock,

walk through the pits at all. And in

retrospect, I wish I had like that's

like a fun thing. I barely walked through

the pits. I walked by like the Canapa

area and then and then kind of up to

the corkscrew. I was at the corkscrew

for most of the time and I was at turn

one, two, three. What is that? Turn four?

I was at turn four at the grandstands for

one of the races as well. Okay.

For like the nine, six, twos and all

those kind of where they come to that

right hander onto the straight. Yeah.

Yeah, where the brakes always like

cars crash there a lot or spin out

and then the brakes light up between

before turn five right there on that

straight. Get all red hot. I'm a GT

one. Well, that's also a killer spot

because you get you get downshifting

into it, acceleration out of it and

then downshifting again facing right

at you, which is awesome. Yeah. And you

can see turn from those grandstands.

You can see turn two and three.

Yeah, as they come down towards you.

Yeah. Yeah, you see quite a bit, but

I watched one of the races there and

then walked up to the corkscrew.

Corkscrew had a bar up there as well

as they do these days. So they had like

and they had a like a I ate lunch up

there, had a burrito, got a beer.

They were like out of all beers,

of course light. So I guess they were

pretty good sales.

But yeah, I watched a bunch up there

like hung out like, you know,

saw Larry Chan up there, hung out

with him for a while.

Saw, you know, we ran into Joel

from 9 11 outlaw who had been

borrowing my Alfa Romeo.

Oh yeah, we didn't even talk about that.

So Joel borrowed my Alfa Romeo.

He is from Austria.

He's 9 11 outlaw. He makes like the

shift. Now as I have my 9 11,

I had one of my Boxster.

Now Dieter has it.

He came to do that sports car

vacation land thing, the

overcrest thing.

And he borrowed my Alpha.

So I stickered the Alpha up with

like DWA, B line.

I have a Radwick graphic on there.

I had all the things.

And he borrowed that for the week

and basically the overcrest

camping rally had a little

like rallies around the country

thing. And DWA was one of the

featured things.

So at one point on the day of the,

I guess their main show thing,

because it was camping all week,

and they had like a show.

And that the Alpha was in front

of our little section.

And there was like a,

like a pedestal with a bunch of

things about us or something.

And it, you know, I know they

attributed the DWA rally with

kind of like turning rallies into

not being a hush, hush thing

anymore and not being as

inclusive, inclusive, or sorry,

exclusive and being more inclusive.

So that's kind of what they give.

They were giving DWA credit for.

Which is kind of cool.

Yeah. So I ran into Joel there.

And then, but yeah, it was cool

just hanging out the track.

And, and then we went,

and it wasn't actually that busy,

dude. I was surprised.

It was like super easy to park.

I went with Nick of Beeline.

And we parked like on the hill

right there where you park at,

at a Laguna.

And we were only like six rows in.

That is super easy, dude.

Yeah. So I, maybe the track

is like a less popular thing

these days or something.

Because you normally,

Saturdays would be like the

gnarliest day ever.

And then we went to Steve

Cattrell's Jaguar thing after that.

And that's where we, or sorry,

at, at Veloce or no,

four or five, six lighthouse is

what he's called.

Did they have that prototype there?

Or what was it?

They had the prototype,

they had that purple prototype

there.

And then they had in XJ220

an E type convertible, I think.

Yeah. Convertible.

I think it was convertible.

And then they had a XJC,

like an 80s XJC.

And those were out front.

And then the prototype was inside

the space.

And they like completely redid

that space.

So they took away,

I would say all the charm

that that space has,

which it's a beautiful space.

And then they, they put like

a white wall down the middle.

And they put like,

they put a bunch of like mood

lighting, like racks of lighting

up above and the rafters.

And purple lights everywhere.

And they had two bars inside.

Then it was pretty empty.

And then a quest love played there

at the thing.

I don't know who that is.

He like DJ'd.

Okay.

You know, from the roots.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like the drummer on Jimmy Fallon.

All right.

Okay.

Right.

The roots of the Jimmy Fallon band.

Right.

Yeah.

But he's like the main guy.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, but we actually missed

that.

But yeah, it was, it was, it was a thing.

I don't understand the point of that event,

but it's cool that they run it out.

Steve Cattrell's spot.

Yeah.

I mean, that's cool.

I mean, it's obviously a prominent

organization.

I was going to call it a manufacturer,

but they no longer are.

But yeah, I was actually just surprised

to see that they're still pursuing

all of that aesthetic and like what

they planned on doing because

I heard that the CEO who had introduced

that left and I thought it was all

kind of going away,

but they were going to rebrand,

but I guess they're sticking to their guns.

And I don't know, dude.

And somehow Rudentrack was involved in that.

They were like, it was like Rudentrack

and Jaguar and someone else,

like some clothing brand, maybe.

It was like a, I forget what there was

a third brand that like put on this

event.

Okay.

And it was like red carpet kind of thing.

People taking pictures of you when

you walked in, like you stand in

front of this wall with all this Jaguar

branding and Rudentrack branding or

whatever.

And then, but I don't really understand

what the event is really for.

I guess just showing that car off,

but the car was like, is seemingly not

real and I don't know.

Didn't have any like details really.

Yeah, I mean, like the only thing I see

this doing is just trying to stay

relevant while they decide what

they're doing is sort of what I see

is like, okay, like we're still here.

This is still a thing.

Let's keep the conversation going.

Keep us in the mix.

And then they're going to bring something

out, but I don't know what that is.

Yeah.

No, I'm, you know, I didn't talk to them.

I, they were at motor lux and I was,

you know, I was too busy to like really

mingle with them and see what's going

on there.

So that car was at motor lux too, right?

It was.

Yeah.

So they had it everywhere.

It was at the quail too.

Yeah.

They, they definitely were, you know,

putting it out there, but I didn't

interact with them to see what,

what, what the plan is or what

they're up to.

Yeah, neither did I, but I know,

like at one point Nick like went,

there was like a half banisters

or there was like banisters or like

a little ropes around the car,

but they were only like three ropes.

So one end was empty and Nick went

to go like look closer and they like

yell to him to get,

not be behind the ropes basically.

So I don't think that car has

like a real interior or anything.

It looked like it.

Yeah.

I saw a dash and like a steering

wheel.

Yeah.

And I mean that looked pretty

complete based on a quick little,

you know, I walked past it and

didn't like sit and analyze it,

but yeah,

car kind of looked paper mache

though.

I mean, it looked very like not

done.

It looked like a model.

I, uh, you should have touched it.

Do you mean like,

and then you find out that it is

and then they tell you about how

it's biodegradable and like these

cars, you know, you get them

reskinned kind of like the old

like airplanes wearing like canvass

back in the day.

Yeah.

I showed it on the old fender

test, right?

Like put my hand under the fender

and seeing how thick the material

it was actually just like a

galvanized wire holding them.

Yeah, exactly.

And then it's all like squishy

clay that they painted.

Yeah.

But okay.

Well, shit.

I had no idea that that had

happened.

I mean, Steve, it was Stephen was

busy as hell.

Then he had his hands full all

week.

Yeah.

So they had to clear out the

whole space, dude.

Like, I guess, um, like, you

know, he has pinball machines

there and video games and he

has a basketball hoop outside

and then he has a bunch of

furniture and they cleared

out everything.

So they put it in like a

storage.

Yeah, it was a full thing,

dude.

So I could I imagine they

spent a few hundred grand on that

yeah thing, you know, putting on

this event.

Sounds about right.

Yeah.

With with a car week now

being very much in the books

and seeing the aftermath of

like what we had talked about

right, like immediately after

just sort of the riff raff and

all that.

Like it's interesting to see

how that made the news big

time right across the board on

all social media.

I'm sorry on all automotive

media platforms.

Everybody was talking about it.

And I also like from prominent

people that are in the industry

was seeing them defend it and

like sort of saying, hey, like

we have to learn how to adapt

and this is the next gen and

like we have to accept it.

And it's just like everybody's

making money.

It's not harmful.

And I'm just like, wow, like

that's the perspective on

everything.

And you know, and even then

like I was like saying like I

I'm happy to see that the

next gen is super interested.

It's just the approach and

how it ultimately may impact the

rest of us and everybody and

what happens there.

Right.

That's the problem is, you know,

when you have people having

accidents, getting hurt, you

know, harassment and loud, you

know, just obnoxious shit

everywhere, like what does

that mean?

Right.

And so but it was it was an

interesting thing to see

because, you know, we talked

about it and yeah, I it was

very I felt like it was very

localized to us because we

were right next to it.

And I wasn't sure.

And when you mentioned it,

you're like, I didn't really see

it.

I heard about it.

But like and then it actually

was widely covered and I'm

curious to see what happens

moving forward and what the

folks here do.

I know there's a bunch of like

police statements and stuff.

I wonder if some of the

defense like the people that

are defending it are a

little bit because the the

fear is real that this could

like really affect Car Week in

the future and Pete, no one

wants Car Week shut down and

it's a little bit like,

hey, maybe we're looking at it

wrong kind of thing.

It's like it's like the only

way to defend it or, you know,

to like not have it.

You don't want to say it was

like a disaster because then

they'll be like, okay,

let's shut down Car Week.

Right.

So maybe there's a little bit

of that going on.

I don't know.

It's a yeah, it definitely.

Yeah, I didn't see anything,

but also I didn't stay down

there and stuff.

So it's just like, you know,

whatever.

But I did, you know, I

heard I saw those numbers of

like how many arrests there were

and tickets cited.

And actually the numbers

didn't seem that crazy

considering like a hundred,

over a hundred thousand people

came in.

Yeah, it was, it was, I mean,

definitely a little sensationalist

and like trying to make it

like it really trying to.

I think that Jalopnik article

was just like ridiculous.

It was like a way of like,

all right, like let's,

let's paint this and as

negative a way as possible

so that we try to like

shut this down and mitigate it

now.

Right.

Like that was sort of the

way I saw that and it's

like I get what they're trying

to do.

But like realistically,

you know, especially when

you're on site,

like, you know, we, we,

it was very localized.

It was, it was like

in particular areas.

Right.

And unfortunately where that,

where they were making all

the noises where

there were a lot of people

and a lot of people caught,

captured that and shared that

and sort of that.

It kind of feels like if

that, if that in and out

thing didn't go down,

it wouldn't be that.

It was like that was the

major right.

Yeah.

The optics are super bad

there right now because

you're shutting down a

prominent business and like

all that other stuff.

Right.

So yeah.

But yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

It's interesting to see.

So we'll see.

I'm very curious to see how,

how this, how it is managed

moving forward and how

things are controlled

because, you know, now

there's like all the,

the, especially the local

people are like super

focused on what's going on

there now.

Right.

And like, oh yeah.

So yeah.

And they have something to

like site now.

They can be like,

look at this.

That's like even,

yeah, everything,

all the articles and stuff

hurt, hurt it for that

because they can be like,

well, look at what happened.

What if this happens again?

It's going to be worse next

year.

Like there's so many ways to,

you know,

and then us,

we're kind of saying,

well, how do you mitigate

this?

How do you stop this

happening?

I guess.

Yeah.

But without shutting down.

Yeah.

It's, yeah.

We'll see.

I don't know.

I don't have the answers.

And I mean, I have some

ideas with like minor

stuff and kind of where

these things are happening,

but like, you know,

we'll see how it all pans

out.

Yeah, I didn't really,

I mean, I didn't have much to

add on my end at the end of

the pod last week,

just because it was,

we, Warren and I were together

the whole time and did

pretty much the same stuff.

So, you know,

I didn't really have anything

else to contribute there.

But yeah, I actually

You guys have questions?

Yeah.

I was going to move to

questions,

but before I wanted to

officially put this out

there, man.

Oh, I just realized

that my camera was off

this whole time.

Yeah, it's been off for a

while.

Are you selling the Z3?

Yeah.

I'm selling the Z3.

It's just it sits there.

I don't drive it for

months at a time.

And I just got a really

lovely fire insurance built.

And it would be nice

to free up a little bit of

cash.

Because where I live,

it's probably the most

expensive fire insurance

in the country next to

Malibu,

if not the same.

Makes sense.

And so, you know,

it's like one of those

things where like,

I'm like, I'm like,

you know,

it'd be nice to free

that up now.

And I don't,

and I, as I had mentioned

before, I kind of got bought

that car is like,

Oh, it's a cool thing to,

I need,

I need something fun.

My E30 was in the shop forever

and I need,

I need to get back in the mix

and I'm like starving

for driving right now.

And so I know it's going to

be more of a carry a stop

gap, carry me over,

kind of a thing,

if you will.

And so, yeah,

I'm prepping it.

I'm, I'm going above

and beyond.

I actually,

I just put

fresh

lower control arm offset bushings

with helps with castor

and more,

like a better alignment up front

because those were already worn,

like I had taken the car in

to Schneider house

to kind of check it out

and it was going to do an alignment

and they're like,

yeah, well,

you should just do this

while you're at it.

So I did that.

I had also planned on doing this

a while ago

and I'm just committing to it now.

It's going to happen next week,

but the front bumper

has the license plate,

plate,

racket holes,

which I really,

really hate

and like they made more

than they needed to it.

And it's one of those subtle

little details.

And so,

and at the front bumper

is kind of chipped up already

too.

So I'm having the front bumper

resprayed

and I'm having those holes

sealed.

Damn, dude.

Yeah.

And it's not essential,

but there's,

you know,

there's also another repair

that had been done

that's very subtle

and I know where it is

and I never mentioned it

because I was curious to see

if you guys ever saw it.

But next to the

the passenger side headlight,

it looked like

like the paint had been

sort of chipped off

and like there was some kind

of a scuff

and when they repaired it,

there were sand marks

that really bothered me

and like I could see them

at the right angle.

You know,

it's like one of those things

and the front bumper has been

resprayed at some point

and it was probably

because of this incident.

And so it's kind of like,

all right,

let's go ahead and just

do the whole bumper.

I want the car to be as clean

as possible.

I don't want any excuses.

I don't want,

you know what I mean?

Like I just want

you want to get a top dollar.

Yeah.

And I want to have any like,

well,

it has this or that

and it's a really nice car.

It's like,

exactly.

It's like a really good car

already.

Yeah.

So I'm just trying to get it

like because it's so close,

right?

And these are like the little

detail.

So now like it has zero dents,

like not a single dent on it.

And everything works,

you know,

like AC stereo,

you know,

everything works.

And I just wanted,

I'm like right there.

It's so close.

So I'm like just doing those

final little things.

So it's a no,

no stories car basically,

right?

Like, yeah.

And the only story is

it's,

I bought it.

The bumper being painted,

I guess.

Yeah.

I mean,

and technically it's an

original owner car.

I,

you know,

the car was owned

by the original owner

up until it was sold

at this consignment dealer.

And,

you know,

I,

I bought it from them.

And so that's the history

on it.

All records since new

dealer maintained

since new.

And you know,

it's a higher mileage car.

It has 145,000 miles

because the guy commuted

in it in the Bay Area

for its entirety

of ownership.

So like that was,

this was his daily driver.

And so because it was

a daily driver,

you know,

as stuff would wear out

and stuff would happen,

he would just,

you know,

take it to the dealership

and just,

you know,

stayed on top of it

and kept it well maintained.

So yeah,

it's basically ready to roll.

I mean,

I took it up.

I drove it up to car week,

you know,

zero issues there

and it was really comfortable.

And it was a small car,

agile,

easy to get,

you know,

through traffic

and park easily,

all that stuff.

So it was awesome.

And it was just like,

and it has just enough quirkiness

and,

you know,

kind of that coolness factor,

if you will,

right?

As a clown shoe

that it was fun

to have out there

and people kind of,

you know,

appreciated it.

So like,

it was a good car

to have up there.

But,

but yeah,

I'm,

I'm getting the,

like getting it prepped

basically to,

then I'll shoot it

and then,

I don't know,

officially list it somewhere

unless I get some interest.

I did get someone reach out,

what's his name,

Chris Perkins

from Autopian,

you know,

who,

I think he writes from,

yeah,

he's Autopian or motor one,

I forget.

Oh yeah,

I know the name.

Yeah.

And,

and so when I posted a story,

he's like,

oh,

like I'm actually kind of

looking for something right

now.

And,

and

right around that same time,

he's like,

you know,

well,

I also found this really clean

E46,

like in your town,

which is super random,

and he's East Coast based.

So I think you decided

to get that instead,

because it was a lot cheaper,

and it was just a 330 CI,

and that's kind of what he was

looking for,

but he was interested in my car.

But I'm going to,

yeah,

I'm putting it out there now.

Hit me up if you're interested.

I can send all the deeds.

Yeah,

put in the feelers out.

Put in the feelers out.

This is the waters

beyond tested.

We've tested the waters

with a,

with a story.

Yeah.

And waters are being tested.

Uh huh.

Yeah.

Now,

now we're,

we're in the mix.

So yeah,

I'm going to sell this thing.

And then the,

my E30

is going up to be line

in the next week.

And then that thing

will get prepped for the rally.

I've been going back and forth

with the team there.

They know what is needed.

Nice.

And we had a,

I put together a,

like a,

a must haves,

right?

The essential list.

And then a once,

and then the nice to haves.

And then,

you know,

and then there's like a third

tier.

I don't even bother,

but if you guys are super fast,

let's,

let's squeeze this in,

but, um,

you know,

that's cool.

So when is it going to be set up here?

Hopefully by the end of the week,

at the latest very early next week.

Uh-huh.

That's the plan.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah.

I did a little,

uh,

I mean,

if we're going on project updates,

I did a,

the most minor project update,

but these,

the most minor

is sometimes the most satisfying art.

I, uh,

I walked by my car the other day

and I noticed,

did I talk about this?

I don't think I did.

I'd noticed the front turn signal

lenses were like,

the one was like,

kind of cracking,

you know,

like hazing,

like,

kind of,

and it was kind of dull.

And then I'm like,

Oh, the other one's not that great either.

So I just ordered two new lenses

for $40 each

or whatever they are,

you know,

under a hundred bucks for two.

Yeah.

Put those in in two seconds

and it just like,

brights up the whole,

you know,

like,

like bright orange,

like shiny finish on them.

They were all dull too,

because they were,

I mean,

who knows how old they were.

I,

they might have been the originals

for all I know.

Yeah.

And the cars,

in a 1987 with,

180,000 miles on it.

So,

yeah.

So like,

they're all shiny and nice.

That was kind of nice.

And then when Joel from

911 Outlaw was here,

I was telling him,

I was like,

I wish,

because I don't,

I don't know if you get this,

but when you drive in 911,

like that era,

like mine,

if you kind of have to reach

for the shifter a lot,

it's a little low

and the seat doesn't go low

enough to make it

where it's not like that.

Like nice explorers are better.

They're more like more,

even though same transmission

and everything,

they're a little more like

in your hand,

I feel like.

But this,

you really have to reach.

You have to kind of almost like,

like if you're sitting in the seat,

you have to kind of like

reach forward and kind of like

go for the shifter.

Stock shifter.

Look,

so I had the stock shifter.

I have a different shift knob now.

I didn't change the height or anything.

So I just got a,

like a one inch extension basically

from him.

I had,

I like mentioned this to him

and he's like,

oh, I have an extension.

It's like not,

and he's like,

it's not an ideal setup

because it doesn't screw.

It's one of the ones with like the

bolts that,

that kind of bolt on

and just kind of keep it there

on the shaft.

But he's like,

I have one of those with me

if you just want it.

So I got one of those and I,

you know,

so in turn,

obviously I,

I made my shifter

a little longer throw.

It's not like,

I think it's probably noticeable,

but it's not like crazy

where I'm like,

oh, it's way too long

to throw now,

but it is like that

tad bit,

you know,

an inch and it's like,

it's just a nicer experience

reaching for the shift now.

So yeah,

I did those two things

kind of satisfying.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's,

yeah,

that's what this is all about,

right?

Like tailoring it.

And I feel like I'm fine

because you,

you have a notoriously

long torso,

right?

That's like a thing.

Yeah.

So yeah.

And,

and,

you know,

those are the little things

that make it,

yeah,

just make it more enjoyable

and like,

yeah,

so maybe I sit like

two inches back

than you do.

Right.

So you're two inches forward.

So you actually have a better,

you have a better

reach for the knob too.

Yeah.

I haven't,

the only thing that I have noticed

and,

you know,

I fixed that on my 93s.

I feel like the stock throw

is a little long for me,

like for my taste

and I shortened that,

but I didn't go crazy.

I think I went like

RS back or something.

I can't,

it was,

there might have been

a Rennline setup.

I don't remember.

But yeah,

I think that's,

that's the one thing also,

you know,

it also depends on

how like healthy

all of the bushings are

in the shift or two,

right?

Like that makes it sloppier

and like that would

bother the shoes.

Exactly.

Those are things

that would upgrade

just to tighten it all up

and even

like I have driven

stock G bodies

that are really nice

and stock G bodies

that are not

in 915s,

especially G50s are better,

but 915s in particular

can be really,

even the throw

can be longer

because the bushings

are so shitty.

Everything's all screwed up.

So yeah,

mine's pretty tight.

Yeah.

Yeah,

mine's pretty tight

as a newer

like center bushings

and stuff.

So it's like

the shifter's

pretty good

and everything.

Like really good.

It's straight up the

it's just more

than where it is.

Yeah.

It's just kind of

where it is

a little bit

and it's not even

that big of a difference

and it wasn't like

I mean,

it wasn't like

I was so annoyed

with it

or anything.

It's just like

it's always like

a wish I had

to be a little bit taller.

It's like,

you know,

you get like a 99,

like a 991

or a 981

or any of these

like a 997,

all these

and the shifter

is like way higher

and closer to the steering wheel.

Yeah.

Kind of more career GT

like and these are like

off the floor

and kind of low.

They're very old school

in that

in that,

you know,

they're kind of far away

from the steering wheel

basically.

Yeah.

So not your proper

like race car setup.

But yeah,

I did those two things

kind of rad.

And then I went on two

drives.

I went on two short drives

this weekend.

That was really fun.

Had a great run

with Nick on Sunday.

Excellent.

He was in his Z3M

or his M Roadster.

Yep.

And I was in the 911

and we had a really good run

on like basically the

DWA test route

test loop

up by the university

and then down to the coast

and then back

and never had a car

in front of us.

Nice.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

Very cool.

Yeah.

I can't wait to get my

get my 20 30s dialed

and I can actually rip around

and

you know,

get back into it.

Yeah.

Get that.

Yeah.

Because I think

quieted down a little bit.

Yeah. That's the biggest thing,

but yeah,

there's like a bunch of little

things and I mean,

just the buzziness

and also as I mentioned,

the throttle position

sensor is all like off now

after I mess with the auto body.

So it's like very jerky

to drive right now.

It's not enjoyable at all.

And but yeah,

once that's,

you know,

tweaked,

then I can get back in the mix

and we'll see

that one of those

at the very bottom

of the list,

if you will,

is because I've been

going going back before

the Reese has been awesome.

He's been really proactive,

like reaching out

and like trying to get it

all scheduled and dialed

so that

you can get it done

in time.

Yeah,

be aligned.

But is getting that 410

limited slip right now

has a 373

and I really want to try a 410

and I found one on eBay.

It looks pretty decent.

So but yeah,

that's it.

I just want him to like

focus on the essentials

and like,

you know,

then that'll be at the very

end.

It's not a huge job

and like,

you know,

we can kind of

tack that on

if we really can pull it off,

but I want to prioritize

the other stuff,

but I might still just buy it

and then have it sent there.

Um,

that that was,

I was looking at that yesterday.

That'd be rad.

It's not like a hard thing

to swap out.

No,

it's the easiest.

I mean,

it's straight up bolts.

The worst thing

about removing

just the various cars

is that

they have

like those hex bolts

on the actual CVs

that attach

to the diff

and those can strip

and break,

but like,

that's all manageable.

Easy outs and outside of that.

It's like,

you know,

plug and play in theory.

I know war

war.

You tend to have some crazy

story about the subframe

cracking

or some crazy shit,

but you tend to like strip out

that stuff less too

when you're doing like

that stuff on a lift

and you're staring straight at it

and you can get the wrench

at the perfect thing.

Like it's a lot of times

when you're on your back

and you're like,

uh,

that's when that stuff's really hard

and then like having like,

you don't,

you can't put a transmission jack

down this.

You're dealing with two jacks

and like,

you're balancing it all

and I've done it.

It sucks.

Yeah.

It's not great.

Dude,

I've had it where I have like one

on my

tranny on my chest,

you know,

and just kind of like,

bench press it up

and how someone else tightening it

and stuff like that's,

yeah,

that's,

it's a,

it's no bueno.

A miserable,

miserable thing.

Oh,

and our buddy,

Mark Garcia

finally

got his engine back.

TLG,

TLG was building it

down in Southern California

and he got his,

it's a two,

seven punch out to two,

nine and his 73 and a half,

uh,

Sepia Brown Targa.

Nice.

So I went a little drive with him

on Saturday

him and Phillip

from here at B line.

Yeah.

And his

tar I think that engine

makes something like,

I want to say it's like 260 crank.

So,

you know,

40 horsepower more than my car

and weighs 23 something.

Nice.

So it's,

it's fast.

Dude,

like,

and that's,

I mean,

I love that too

because that's still that

short stroke crank.

So like it's,

it's,

it has that classic

like early 911

sound, right?

And

they're also zippier,

right?

Like from a rev standpoint.

And I mean,

that's a cool setup.

Is it MFI or carbs?

No,

it's carb.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's,

that's still,

I mean,

it sounds even better.

That's cool.

Yeah.

It sounds amazing,

dude.

Yeah.

And unfortunately,

he was following me,

so I didn't get to hear it

in all its glory,

but,

he could definitely

pull me on straights.

Yeah.

Well, that,

so that makes perfect sense.

Yeah.

I mean,

he could pull you everywhere.

I mean,

well, I guess you have more

road holding,

like, you know,

your car is a little bit longer.

Yeah.

He has like,

but like,

Yeah.

He has CN,

he has,

sorry,

he has,

what do they call it?

Veritas Sign Sport,

Sprint Classics.

Okay.

Yeah.

And they're pretty narrow.

Yeah.

So definitely,

I was going to have like the,

I wouldn't say he has like,

overall grip my car has,

but it's also lighter too.

So he doesn't have as much.

Yeah.

That's great.

No, I'm happy for him.

I know it was quite the,

journey to get to where it is now.

Yeah.

But,

now he's super stoked.

Well,

congrats,

homie.

We're going to go ahead and jump into the questions here.

We have nine.

That should,

that should get us some good decent content.

I want to let everybody know,

Warren,

that it is not letting me organize them

from newest first,

or chronologically.

I have to do it manually.

Alrighty.

So chef Malone Jr.

What up dog?

Along the lines of Hushy Pushy's question.

Oh,

shit.

That was the point of it.

Oh, they can't do that.

Because it's all screwed up.

I'm all screwed up.

See, this is not.

I thought it was in chronological.

Yeah.

Okay.

So all right.

Hushy Pushy.

Damn it.

The MK seven,

mark seven Volkswagen GTI is a great car,

but has a pretty generic 2.0 T under the hood.

What engine would you swap into a GTI

to make it more fun for back roads and track days?

P.S.

Art is allowed to mod a golf R if he wants,

since he can't do front wheel drive.

Dang.

I appreciate the leeway,

but now let's just keep it all in the same level playing field.

Dude, what's like a modern engine?

Dude, I would go the five cylinder that it's on the in the RS three.

Oh, yeah.

No shit.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Easy.

That engine is so awesome.

It sounds amazing.

Great power.

TRS engine.

Yeah.

True motorsport motor.

And you know, I think, I mean, realistically,

I would have to look at it.

I can't imagine adding that much weight.

That's a very modern power plant.

So like, I feel like that would be sick.

To have that up there.

Overall, all the sense of occasions.

I got nothing for you, dude.

That was the perfect answer.

Cause like everything these days is a two liter turbo, right?

It's like, I just, I just watched some car magazine or Evo.

Maybe they were doing the civic type R versus the new GTI club sport.

Okay.

And they were saying how the GTI engine had so much more character than the civic one.

Dang.

And which is already like a pretty dull motor.

And the, yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

I mean, I would love to see how.

Oh, and actually, Art, you should watch the video because at one point

they were talking about how it was damp out and they're like,

dude, this thing has zero traction.

Like you can't put the power down.

You can't go through turns in the wet.

Like, like, just like any, it was just like we experienced dude.

And it's like, remember when we were like,

are we taking crazy pills?

Like we were the only people that were mentioning that

it was hard to put power down in that car.

Yeah.

So they were talking about that too.

And they, I mean, to, they picked the club sport, but they did say the,

the, the R was more like motor sports feeling, but the engine was more

lackluster and just a power machine.

Yep.

Interesting.

I am very quickly trying to see what, if I can find the weight for the two

liter, I found the weight for the RS three engine or that, you know,

it's whatever the QK, whatever the fuck it's called.

I don't, I don't know what the engine is.

Yeah. Is it an iron, is it an iron block?

I have a, I have a weight of 353.

I didn't check what it is, but I, I doubt it really.

Like almost all these modern engines are all aluminum and

I thought the two liter, I thought the Volkswagen stuff is all iron blocks.

Oh, I'm sorry.

The two liter.

Yes.

I was talking with the RS three.

So the, oh, here we go.

TfSI 135 kilograms at 2.2 pounds.

I mean, so that gives you a sense.

I mean, and you know, you could, you can deal with that, right?

Based on like, you know, alignment and you know, tire pressure and all that stuff.

But I just would love to see like a direct comparison.

Cause like, yeah, if, if you're dealing with same for same, it's even better.

It's not that much.

It's only 50 pounds heavier.

So that, that's the move.

Alrighty.

All day.

So let's go now with chef Malone's question along with along the lines of

hushy hushy's question.

Did you guys see the new golf R has a 2.5 along the lines of the

DAZ a motor in the RS three.

Oh shit.

There you go.

Volkswagen hasn't put a cool motor and a golf since the mark mark five R 32 in 2008.

Pretty neat.

I guess he's just saying that, which is exactly what we talked about.

So, so it is a 2.5 liter.

It's not a five cylinder though.

I don't think so.

I mean, he says along the lines just on displacement or wait, let me check.

So it's a 2.54.

Wasn't the old Jetta like the basic engine, just a 2.54.

At the most base non turbo engines.

Those were all.

Oh no, those are 2.5 fives.

Yeah.

No, those were fives.

Dude.

So is that so you're saying that that the golf R has the RS three motor now?

That, that sounds pretty awesome.

Dude.

Well, yeah, you know what?

That makes sense.

Auto only though.

Yeah.

New GTI is auto only too.

Yeah, but I don't know.

I mean, what kind of waste my time looking at it, but that's cool.

I mean, that sounds, I love that.

And yes, we agree.

More, more beta engines and bw's please.

Okay.

So Ben Roje.

What are the best toppings for a hot dog?

Can we just do this?

I want to, I don't know, dude.

I feel like we're not on that because that yeah, you might not have been on

that on that pod because I remember you guys talking about it.

Yeah, because I even said at Costco, they took away the onions from

the self-serve station.

But if you walk up to the counter and ask them, they do still have chopped onions.

Okay.

But you weren't on the call.

So you're an onion.

You're an onion and sour, you're an onion, sauerkraut guy.

Onion and tomatoes right now.

Onion tomatoes, like dice tomatoes.

Yep.

I'm a dude.

I'm fricking catch up and mustard all day, dude.

And I will do catch up.

Fuck yeah.

And then if you're getting fancy, like in San Luis Obispo when I lived there,

when I went to school there, there's a place called Frank's Hot Dogs.

And they were one of these like gourmet hot dog places.

And they would have like, you can get like strips of bacon, tomato, cheese,

all that kind of stuff.

Yep.

When you go crazy like that, you can like it.

I like it's kind of good with like cheese and bacon and you know,

all that all that kind of stuff.

It makes it in more like a burger.

Yeah.

I'll do a chili cheese here and there, but I'm always kind of bummed about it.

Is that place in Watsonville still there?

The one, what is it called?

It was the one right down town by La Plaza.

It's like been there forever since like the 40s.

You know what I'm talking about?

And they do chili cheese dogs there that are so good and they're very unique

because it's like the chili is like ground really fine.

It's like almost like, I mean, it sounds bad,

but it tastes really good.

It's almost like the Taco Bell kind of consistency.

Yeah.

And it's not as chunky and that with some mustard and relish is insane.

Like those are so good.

And I don't know if they're still there.

It's a kind of a, I mean, I want to say they've been there

since the 40s or maybe 50s.

I don't know, but cool.

Santa Cruz used to have a place like that called all American Wiener dog

and it was next to the Rio theater and now it's been Charlie Hong Kong

in that location for probably 30 years now.

But before Charlie Hong Kong, it was all American Wiener dog

and that was kind of like the same.

Okay.

Well, I am happy to announce that Taylor Brothers hot dogs still there.

Oh, dude.

Yeah.

And they still look the same and they look amazing.

And I want one right now.

All right.

I gotta go.

Yeah.

Check it out.

It's super good.

So the, and I did give a shout out to Mexican hot dogs.

So bacon wrapped with grilled onions and peppers.

Oh yeah.

So it's good.

I'll do some jalapeno on it or something down with that.

Yeah.

All right.

Automotive omnivore.

When you walk your neighborhood now, oh wait, sorry.

When you walk your neighborhood, how much of your path is influenced

by the cars parked along the way?

I have a morning route that still takes a block or two detour

because five years ago there was a 71 cutlass convertible for sale

down that way.

Whoa.

He's like a dog dude.

Like my dog like once found a croissant in that bush

and now every time he wants to see if there's another croissant

in that bush every time we walk by.

That's where you're at.

Well, I mean, I only walk in my neighborhood when I walk the dog

and there's a route that I walk because it's more about like,

I live in a very hilly area of town.

It's more determined by how much I want to exert myself.

But I see what you're getting at.

Like I think that you still, I think I'll drive certain routes

because I want to drive past a certain house

and see what they have because they usually have cool cars

or you know, stuff like that.

But I guess, yeah, in that case, I will choose my route

based on that, especially if it's not adding any more time.

And I'll take that little detail.

You'd rather, well, you'd rather see a cool car

than not see a cool car.

Exactly.

Yeah, so, yeah, like so.

Yeah, might as well.

Yeah.

And I still regret it to this day.

I'm so dumb.

I, you know, I always leave notes on cars

and I didn't leave a note on that freaking S4 Avant

in Nagaro blue with a black interior manual transmission

that was a mile away from my house.

And I would drive that way every single time

when I was going to target because it went through a neighborhood

and it didn't add any more time.

But at least I got to see that car.

And I think they sold it because it's not there anymore.

I drive past it and it's gone.

So I should have left a note on it.

See, dude, they probably gave it away.

They probably gave it.

They donated it to cars for kids, dude.

Yeah, exactly.

I will definitely on my walks around my neighborhood.

I will definitely go down a certain street

because I know there's possibility,

like there's this one street near my house

by the Yacht Harbor here.

And whether like he'll have his garage open sometimes

and he'll have like a three.

He has like a 360 Ferrari.

I think he has like a 575.

And then he has a Lotus and lawn and all the lawn

and he has some other Lotus.

And then he has like an NC MX five club.

But you know, it's like,

I would rather see those cars than not see those cars.

And like when the garage is open, you're like, oh, cool.

And you can like snap a shot.

Totally.

So yeah, I'll definitely it's also one,

like one of the nicer streets too.

But that definitely dictates actually his street

where he is.

You have to kind of go on this little, it's like,

you have to kind of go out of the way a little bit.

But I'll always go that way just to see those cars.

Yep.

We feel you dog.

The Bruce 75.

How about a hang after Sunday morning motors,

perhaps Woodhouse Bruce?

Is there going to be a beeline hang?

There's not a beeline hang.

There will be a beeline hang next month's morning motors

on the, I believe the 28th of September.

But on this one, no, but maybe we'll put together

a little Woodhouse.

That'd be fun to go to Woodhouse after.

So let's just plan on it.

Let's plan on going to Woodhouse after.

And we can probably turn on Formula one there too.

Oh, sick.

Yeah.

Oh, sick.

Yeah.

So yeah, this Sunday morning motors,

the old Wrigley building, right?

Yeah.

What are, what times are we saying these days?

Dude, we are saying, what are we saying?

Nine, nine to 11 to 1030.

Nine to 1030.

All right.

There you go.

And people are going to seven.

Yeah.

Exactly.

That's why it's.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Donuts provided by Beeline, right?

Beeline Motor Club and coffee and coffee and coffee.

Is that cat and cloud coffee?

That's a great question.

It usually is cat and cloud coffee.

Nice.

And then I think we were just talking last time,

I think we got 15 dozen donuts or something.

Yeah.

Dang.

We used to buy like three, right?

Or six.

I mean, six doesn't.

No, we'd buy like six to eight.

Six to eight, but yeah.

Wow.

All right.

Well, thanks, Beeline.

Everybody's going to be covered there.

And we always did like always.

We always ran out very quickly.

So there you go.

Oh, and they didn't.

They did run out of coffee last time.

So they're getting extra thing.

Canbro coffee this time.

Fantastic.

Canbro, right?

Canbro.

Is that the word?

Yeah.

The big ass.

Jug thinks.

Yeah.

Alrighty.

So Jacob Torres.

Asad is.

I hope you guys are well.

Just picked up a drop in Cusco LSD for one of my cars.

How much of a difference should I really expect?

Well, if you're used to driving and performance driving,

and it also depends on how stiff your suspension is.

If you have a stock suspension,

and if you're in a twisty mountain road,

you're going to be able to put the power down way easier

coming out of corners,

especially if you spun the inside wheel.

So it really depends on how hard you push your car.

If you're just cruising around town normally,

you're not going to notice.

It's really when you're pushing.

Well, also, what's the car, dude?

It also depends how much power you have to put down.

Definitely.

That's another thing.

It depends on how much power you have.

But I can tell you, even with a Miata,

with low power,

if you have an open diff,

you can definitely feel it

because the stock suspension is so soft.

So if it's a stiffer suspension,

you don't.

I don't know.

It's like actually, no, it's the opposite.

Sorry.

No, it's opposite.

It's opposite.

If it's soft.

So yeah.

Drup creates grip.

Right.

So you have more group,

which means the contact patch will stay there

and you're fine.

Where if it's a stiffer set up,

then it will lift the inside wheel,

which means you spin it.

So it depends on what you got.

And I don't know what car it is.

Does he have a Miata?

I think he does.

It might be.

I think he does.

And it also depends.

It'll also make it,

it'll also make it a little,

I mean, you can be progressive in a way.

It makes like slides more progressive,

but it can also make it snappy.

Depends what the lock it like,

what all those?

Well, it's also if it's a two way also,

when you let off coming into a two way,

all those, which are sketch,

they can be sketchy, dude.

Like that can be a sketchy thing.

If you're not used to it and you let off the,

you know, you're letting off the gas too hard,

basically, and it locks the diff on entry.

And then you're kind of like the rear end comes around.

You have to.

Yeah.

It's obviously the surface itself may,

may also also makes a difference.

I mean, I know some people that don't like,

and they definitely don't like two ways on street cars.

I have no idea what set up.

They don't like.

Yeah.

But yeah, then the obvious one is,

you can steer the throttle more with a diff,

which is nice.

Yep.

So yeah, you can get on throttle earlier

because it's going to, you know,

it's going to send power to the outside

to rotate you quicker.

So like that type of thing.

And also you have way more attraction in general.

Right.

So like, you know, that is again,

it's really when you are performance driving,

like mostly around town, you won't notice

if it's a really aggressive diff,

then you can, and if you're doing tight stuff,

like you'll, you'll feel like it sort of locks up

and it might like chirp or you'll hear it sort of bind

and you will have to give it more throttle,

like stuff like that.

But I can't imagine he got like a full race diff

for his street car.

Yeah.

But yeah, check it out.

Go out and rip around.

You never know, dude.

What you experience.

Yeah.

All right.

Joe Polo.

I feel like 9 11.

That's all right.

Good.

Oh, I was saying, I feel like,

like my car, like my 9 11,

it doesn't have a limits up or anything.

I've never really thought it needed one though.

It's like rear engine has really good traction.

It like, if, if that thing is like the one thing

it's not lacking is traction coming out of a turn.

Yeah.

9 11's a general aren't so I don't know.

Yeah, they're just not, they're not,

they don't need, it feels like, I mean,

I could see if it was like really set up

and had 350, you know, had 300 wheel and weighed way less.

Yeah, that would be a thing, but I don't know.

What do you think?

Yeah.

I mean, it also, I mean, it adds to the experience, right?

Like, I mean, if, if you're really hauling ass

and if you want to slide around and stuff,

like my 993 had an LSD.

It makes it more fun.

It was really nice for that.

Like, and I could control slides easier.

And, and it was, you know, on throttle rotation,

like to get it to like rip around was definitely

apparent, but not essential.

I think it's just, you know, it's a nice to have for sure,

for especially for my 996 had an LSD, it was fun.

Nice.

Joe Polo 68, why do you think events like the Monterey Motorsports Festival,

for instance, were allowed to enter the car week sphere?

It seems like once that idea was pitched,

it should have been a non-starter.

Who are you, like, who do you think is approving this,

like Mr. Car Week?

This is literally a venue.

Yeah.

That you just go book.

Yeah.

I mean, like the fairgrounds wants money from.

Yeah.

They just want to be able to rent out a space.

There's no like, I don't think there's like a overlord of,

there isn't like an overlord of car weeks that like,

you must not pass.

Don Trankes.

Yeah.

Don, exactly.

Don Car Week.

Yeah.

I guess, you know, it can get venue specific though.

Like, I think what he's probably getting at is like the burnout yard

or the burn box or whatever they're calling it, right?

Yeah.

Like they have that going on.

And so it's like, why would that be allowed?

But also it's like, it's venue specific, right?

It's like, they have, if they have a dedicated area

and they have parameters, right?

When we put on events, like we can pitch something

and they'll say, okay, if you want to do that,

you have to do X, right?

Because it's straight up permitting, right?

It's like, and so in this case, it's like, all right,

we're going to have this, these activities happening.

They're going to say, okay, you need this type of barricade.

You need to have, you know, they have to weigh this much.

You need this much space for based on what you're trying to do.

You have to add this fencing, you know, for debris,

like all of that stuff then just gets tacked on.

And so, you know, technically it's legitimate at that point.

And then the fire chief will come by and inspect it,

make sure that there's, you know, you have fire extinguishers

where you need them.

And so all of that type of stuff.

So it's literally just venue and permitting.

But I think what he's getting at is kind of like

that same conversation of like more bringing a type of

personality and the riffraff and like changing the,

the what sort of what type of activities are celebrated at Car Week.

And yeah, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a tricky thing, right?

Cause like I know that there's no one, there's no one there

regulate. That's what I'm saying.

There's no like overlord of Car Week that's like,

that doesn't go with our, like what we think Car Week should be.

It's like, Car Week is just a, it's a combination.

It's a bunch of separate solo events that are put on,

held by teams and individuals and all this stuff.

And there's no like, there's no like, Hey, this is Car Week

and I have to join Car Week, the whole planning committee.

Yeah.

Legends of the Audubon has nothing to do with the quail

and the quail has nothing to do with pebble and like,

you know, motor eluxe has nothing to do with either of those.

So like, yeah, that whole, that gets, yeah,

it's, it's all separate things happening.

But I mean, I feel like it's going to be interesting though,

because last week I remember, like I asked,

like I proposed the question, like is there a place for that,

right? Like all the shit that we were talking about.

And it looks like that this may be the place for that.

And this is going to be the Hoonigan type of vibe,

right? And that whole demographic and we'll see how that goes,

you know, but that is not on us to regulate and sort out.

Or decide if that's like, I mean, really it's like, I mean,

I think it's the most boring thing to watch, dude.

People doing like, it's not, it's not of interest to me.

I've done, and I've seen it, like I've been at these things,

like the Hoonigan, whatever thing at SEMA and all these things,

it's just so boring to like be in a little box doing a donut.

Like you're like, okay, that's cool.

Let me walk away and get away from the smoke smell.

It's so primal and like, it's a trip, dude,

because like I was talking to Warren about this,

like I feel like this culture, like the whole like burnout,

revving culture.

And you know, it's, I mean, we all like to do burnouts.

As you do a burnout, you're done.

It's like, cool, I did it.

It was fun. I moved on to the next thing, right?

But it's like this, like the, just the constant,

like sort of like beating the shit out of your car over

and over and over and having the crowd screaming,

like all that, like it's just, there's something about it

that is akin to me to like pop culture and like generic

music or something, right?

It's like, it has very wide appeal,

but it has no substance.

It's just kind of like, it's just throw away.

Yeah. And so that's the same thing with like that sort of thing.

It's like, it's just, I equate it to that,

like that's sort of the way I see it.

But it's not my thing.

It's very popular and has a huge audience.

I mean, the whole YouTube universe is full of this shit.

And like, so is like in the same thing

with the super car revving thing, right?

It's the same idea, right?

And so it's got, it's, it's extremely popular.

Like people love that stuff.

And it's just not necessarily a place to like enjoy that.

I guess that's cool.

It's better to have it contained, right?

That's where you want to,

yeah, it's their thing.

The, the only thing I would say it does,

like when you leave something like that,

I think in your, if you're into it,

the first thing you want to do is drive like that.

It's like, when you watch Fast and the Furious

and the first time at the theater

and everybody was racing home.

Exactly. But I kind of feel the same way

about going to the racetrack too.

It's like, I want to drive all fast.

So I can't really blame them.

Yeah. I didn't hear anything about the show at all

until like all of a sudden Camisa posted a video of him there.

And I know he's into, he can get a little rednecky at times

and like he's really into burnouts

and he thought it was like the best thing ever.

So he was, I literally saw nothing as well

until I saw Camisa and all of a sudden he got some eyeballs

and yeah, we'll see what happens there.

So let's see Glen Hall Perrin.

I think that's who pronounced that.

Fins towards the front or back?

Oh, always front forward.

If you don't put them for you, you're a kook.

So the theory, the whole thing is,

dude, so many times I'll see people with fins backwards

because like it looks cool

because you think it should have like almost like a car

should have a spoiler at the back.

You shouldn't have a spoiler in the front

right? Like that's that's why aesthetically, if you like,

if you knew nothing and you drew surfboard on a car,

you'd be like, oh, Finn should go in the back

because that looks more like streamline.

Though the reason for putting the fins forward

is because you basically usually tie them down with two,

two things, two ties and that the fin is something

to stop the board from going off.

Now the big thing, you're not breaking hard all the time.

So the fear of the board going forward isn't that great.

The fear of it is the wind hitting the board.

You're going down the highway.

Think about it.

You're going 50 miles an hour down the highway.

The wind's constantly hitting it

and the thing is going up and down.

If it does start scooting back,

the fin is going to catch the your strap, right?

Right.

Your strap is going to catch the fin

and that's going to keep your board off.

It's it's the difference between your board

flying off the car and staying on the car.

Right.

And this is like happens all the freaking time.

It's not like it's this is something that happens.

So fins are always forward.

If you don't put them forward, you're a cook

and you probably this you probably don't serve for you,

serve two times or you're just posing.

Like there's this dude with a blue 912

that always has surfboards on his car.

Yeah.

So he used to put them on back the wrong way, dude.

And I remember I made a comment once I was like fins for

I'm like fins forward, dude, you know, whatever.

And then now I'm not saying it's because of me,

but he always puts them the correct way.

Yeah.

And then you'll see all these drawings and stuff.

Same thing.

Also Christmas trees.

Oh, people are always putting the Christmas tree

the wrong way, dude.

And then I posted a picture, a drawing I did on Radwood

with the tree, the correct way, which is stump forward.

Yep.

Because the way branches go, branches go up.

Totally.

They don't go down.

Destroy your tree.

Just go.

Yeah.

It's like a whole.

Yeah.

So you don't want the air to go against the branches.

You want them to go with the branches.

So you put it's always stem forward, pointy side back.

People always put a pointy side forward because same thing.

Aerodynamically, it looks correct, right?

That's not right.

It's pointy side forward.

It's not the correct way.

And I had someone comment on me like trees the wrong way

on the Radwood site on Radwood Instagram.

I was like, oh, I'm not even didn't even argue with them.

But like I wanted just to, you know, if it was not Radwood,

I'd be like, you're a fucking coon.

Yeah, but yeah.

So there's definitely like rules and they have.

There's reasons for these rules.

It's not just like, oh, that's like something that was they

came up with right.

And the irony is that with this situation,

it's like the people that know like are the ones that you

typically those are the ones that you should want to impress

and you're doing the opposite.

Right?

Like you look like an idiot.

Like you're doing it totally wrong.

And so like yours.

Yeah, but that's funny.

So yeah, all right.

John Rye, when is a two-tone paint job acceptable?

Older cars and trucks only?

Or is a Maybach or something similar?

OK.

I think I think it looks OK on my box and Rolls Royce's and.

Yeah, no, I think there's also like, I mean, what is it?

Older cars, I guess, how do you define that?

Right?

Is that like is Radwood era older cars?

Or are we talking about like 60s classics?

Because he's looking at a VW.

Yeah, I don't know.

Because like how about like a 90s Eddie Bauer Ford Bronco?

Or a Bronco?

Yeah, a full-size Bronco or a Ford Explorer?

Like those two tones are kind of cool, right?

But that's an old car, I guess now.

Yeah, because for me, like for example, like 86s,

they look rad two-tone, but that's an 80s car.

Is that like acceptable?

Like same thing with the R30 Skylines, right?

Like those 80s boxy Skylines, I prefer two-tone over a monochrome

on that because they're so flat, like they're just like super square,

right?

And really flat-sided kind of square.

Yeah, so when you break it up a little bit, yeah,

that looks really good.

But I do like the I think that yeah, my box is great.

I think that it totally works.

It's it's definitely like an upscale thing in that sense,

right?

Like like adding that.

And I think don't some modern Bentley's have two-tone paint

jobs. Yeah, yeah, and and and rolls and rolls.

And those look good too, I think.

Yeah.

It's also you could say pinstripes as well, right?

Pinstripes can be like really like can be kind of nice

and classy or they can be really.

Yeah, all righty.

Well, here's the last question.

Bobby Reed with the cars.

What's your favorite movie or TV show?

Oh, sorry.

What's your favorite movie or TV show?

Car Stunt.

Oh, I just one comes to mind and it's not my favorite.

It's just the most absolutely ridiculous one.

Was it like fast nine when they that that's super car in Dubai

went from one building into the other?

Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah, I do like in hypersport or whatever.

And yeah, it was like just so over the top.

Yeah, but like actually legitimately

favorite.

I'm trying to favorite.

Yeah, well, then they drive the cars out of a plane

and then like have like a like parachutes to do it.

There's in that same movie.

There's so much crazy shit like then.

Oh, well, then yeah, they had them in space.

They and the last one I never saw the cars were in space.

Dude, it's crazy.

I never saw that one.

You guys saw the movie.

It was yeah, it was wild.

But I think what the Italian job props to the Italian job

right with the mini coopers like that was rad.

Pretty good.

They did a bunch of cool shit.

Yeah, like all sorts of stunts going down the stairs is like the iconic one.

Yeah.

There's TV show stuff.

I mean, I know that's like the cliches, the Ronin chase.

There's also the French Connection Chase, which was like, I guess, like.

Clousers are just more realist.

That's like good chases.

Yeah, chases were kind of there now, not a thing.

I'm trying to think about it.

There's also the what's the movie?

We're like the Lamborghini skips across the water.

I can't remember what's that.

One of the I don't know, dude.

One of those like.

One of those like race across America movies or whatever.

Damn, it sounds familiar or something like Gumball or one of those.

OK, you know, yeah.

From like the early 80s, there was one where they skip it

across the water because it goes so fast across like a lake or something.

Oh, yeah, I don't know.

I don't have like a yeah, I can't I can't think of shit.

Yeah, I'm trying to remember any sort of crazy standout stuff.

But I think that that's all I got.

Oh, dude.

I mean, back to the future.

The car went back in time.

That's pretty cool.

Well, I mean stunt back in time.

The 11th, dude, the fire 11 is pretty sweet, pretty sweet, good stunt.

Dude, it's it's all it's terrible.

This is where we need like time to research, right?

And we can come back with some really good stuff.

And it's like yeah, because there's there's there's tons of stuff out

there that we're totally blanking on.

Oh, in the movie, what's the movie with Tom Green?

It's like a college one where they go on like a road trip road trip.

He they try to jump across like that canyon thing and the car gets destroyed.

I remember them.

I don't remember that movie at all.

I remember Euro trip.

Oh, yeah, your trip was pretty good.

Matt Damon.

Yeah, that's pretty good, dude.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think we'd have to come back to that one.

Yeah, I'm sorry, Bobby Reed, and all my favorite.

I feel like all my favorite car movies, like we've talked about this

in the past, but they're not car movies.

It's just cars in normal movies.

Totally.

Yeah.

Oh, Warren sent that one the other day.

A great car stunt.

It was Magnum PI, like basically taking off his 308.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And he just he unbolts it and then just pushes it back and then drives off.

It's gone.

And meanwhile, those have to go in the trunk, get the zip them up and all

that stuff.

And he just had like a purse, two people behind him in this scene.

It's like a side profile shot, like a tight profile shot.

He undoes the top slides and like two people probably pulled it back

and then he just drove off.

Yep.

But that was a pretty cool stunt.

Pretty cool stunt.

Yeah, a little, little, what do you call it?

Disappearing or act?

Roof.

Disappearing, yeah, one of those nitpicky ones.

But yeah, I'm trying to think of something insane.

But yeah, I've got nothing.

Yeah, like there's there's a ton of stuff like, you know, just cars

flying places and disappearing.

I mean, jumping from building to building is pretty impressive,

dude.

It's, I mean, look it up.

It's so ridiculous.

If you want to go way back, you chitty, chitty, bang, bang,

that old car like flew around in the sky.

Dude, that's pretty impressive.

They were flying pretty cool.

Well, that's all we got.

That's it.

That's it, man.

That is a podcast.

That is our final question.

We don't have any trivia because Warren's not here.

We're utterly trivialist today.

I don't have any, anything off the cuff right now.

I've been trying to watch all the news and see what's going on

and I didn't have anything very interesting,

except that supposedly we might get an NAV eight supra,

but only in the Australian market.

And that's still TBD, but that's pretty good.

Oh, I did watch a little bit of your Tofu delivery show.

Oh yeah, which did you start from the beginning or?

No, I started in ACK three or something.

Wait, okay.

What's the show I watched?

So initial day fourth stage, but it's there.

But it's like every, it's a season, right?

So there's beginning.

I started at the beginning.

Okay.

So he's like, and then he like races.

His, the dude like the, his dad's ex nemesis is kid.

And they do this like toge thing and he jumps the inside

of the, the curb or whatever, the turn, right?

All to hook into the corner better.

Yeah.

To hook into, but no, he literally jumps over the other

car almost and he doesn't wait too early,

even though his dad told him to do it on the last turn.

He blew it and then he ends up losing.

Oh, and then his girl breaks up with him or something, right?

It's been so long.

I don't remember, but yeah, I don't remember.

I, I like, it was a, I, I, it was, I could see why,

why a young art loved this show.

Yeah.

And it's, it's very well.

Yeah.

That's very well done.

Like the animations rad, the cars are very like cool

looking and accurate looking.

And they're pretty, I could see why people like became

obsessed with these cars.

Like this one was a, the, it was a 86 versus an MR2 second gen

MR2 turbo.

Yeah.

And they, it was funny how they, like I, I used to love

thundercats as a kid and I remember watching thundercats

again and you're like, oh my God, they're just telling

you everything that's happening.

Like, you know, and they're like, Oh, it's raining

outside.

It's going to be slippery.

That's kind of the way this show is.

They narrate everything that's happening.

You're like, I literally just saw you do that.

And the guy is like in his, it's like a voice in his,

it's like a voiceover kind of thing talking.

And he's like, Oh no, he, he's passing me like it's

like, and then they're like, he has a midship engine.

So he has better acceleration, better traction

off the line than me.

And you know, it's all like pretty technical.

So the thing that about this show is that it was

originally a comic book.

And so it's very like accurate to the comic book.

So like the way that they interpreted it is kind

of interesting, right?

Because you're mostly, it's, it's written that way.

Like it's like written like a comic book.

But also like, as you said, like the technical

aspects are spot on and they also have a real

car audio.

I don't know if you noticed, but the cars,

the way that the car sound, if you listen back

or if you watch a different one, you'll see it's,

they recorded and they miked up the actual cars.

So they sound correct, which I really appreciated.

But yeah, I mean, it's been so long since I watched

the show.

But but yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's cheesy

in some ways and it's like very like, you know,

anime, manga, you know, comic booky.

It's very anyway.

We're like the kid is like his friend gets all excited

and he does this like extended like

like, I don't even know how to explain it,

but like fist pumping and like a big, weird

smile for the big face.

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty, yeah, I want to, I want

to go watch it again and see if I can, if I can

tolerate it, but it's, it's actually, I could see

like, I'm not like super, I've never been a big

cartoon person in general.

So I'm not like, you know, but, but I could

see why people loved it and then why it stuck

with people and like made them want to buy

these cars and like made them like a whole

generation into basically, you know, these

Japanese sports cars.

It definitely, it's visually really cool too.

Yeah, it's cool.

It's very well done.

I think, you know, yeah, from an animation standpoint

and, and I think the cool thing about it

overall and is just that it's some, it's a

something that was pretty mainstream, you know,

overall in Japan and it was an animation

that was like deeply rooted in car culture

and it was like, like legitimate, like

legitimately cool cars that like, you know, just

imagine the parallel would be like if there

was a cartoon or a show about like people,

you know, racing, you know, Fox bodies

versus Camaros and like, you know, there's

like a storyline there about these kids,

you know, in, in learning how to drive

these cars and like talking about driving

dynamics and the mechanic or sorry, the

all of the details about the cars,

right, like mechanically like,

and there was a couple things, you know,

there was a couple little things where I'm

like, but overall it's like very technical

and I can, it teaches these kids like

whoever, you know, this, I imagine a lot

of people that watch this when it came

outward, you know, eight years old,

seven, you know, five years old,

10 years old, 12 years old, whatever,

but maybe even older, but they're like

still, they're learning so much by

watching this show and like nothing

has been this, like it's so, it's all

about cars, dude. It's all about the cars,

the driving cars, the setting up cars,

everything. Yeah, yeah, so it's cool.

Yeah, that's, that was, that's like the

class, but otherwise, because I mean

overall, like if you think about it,

like all the stuff that we got was like

robots turning into cars or, you know,

or like a speed racer looking thing

that is, has rockets that's strapped

to the back of it or, you know,

like, none of it was realistic.

None of it was realistic at all.

And so like it's cool to have that

and for it to be, you know, a pretty

popular thing and, you know, to the

point where, you know, obviously the

main protagonist in the story has this

car, you know, the 86 Corolla and it's

like this underdog story too, right?

Because it's a car that's, you know,

even though it's got a swap and all that

stuff, it's more powerful than stock,

it's still the underdog coming up

against all these other cars.

And so like that whole story really

created like a massive following for

this car and like they're, to this

day, that's why they're so valuable,

right? I mean, yes, they're super

cool and, you know, like it's, it's

a good driving car and like all that

stuff, but like, should they be worth

$45,000? I mean, like that's kind of,

you know, that's where it gets gnarly

because it's like, you know, it's a

basic little Corolla. It's, you know,

it's super fun, but like ultimately

like this is, they call it the tofu

tax, right? This is what drove up the

value so much.

Yeah, no, it's cool. I was a, I'm

glad I checked it out. Maybe I'll

even check out more, but it's

definitely like, if I owned a cool

little hipster coffee shop, I would

definitely put this on in the

background. Yeah, I like that.

And maybe have a chainie and me,

whatever it brings out there, they

match the cars to the episode and

I'm just going to have the

then we can do a burnout contest

and then do the rev off, bounce off

the rev off. Yeah, yeah, it'd be

sweet, dude. So all right, well,

I'm sorry. Good. No, I was going

to say it's a podcast last thing.

Yeah, that is a podcast, but I had

a question for you and before we

leave here because you know how

people, they have these rev offs

and you know, they, I don't know

what the criteria are or how they

measure what wins or whatever, but

like, if I had an LFA or a Carrera GT,

why don't I win all the rev offs?

Like, isn't that the coolest

revenue in the sounding car?

Look, is there anything better than

that? No, no, you have a LFA with

an Acropovic, Acropovic or

whatever. Yeah, you're going to

win, dude. Yeah, so the CGT might

give you trouble, right? Yeah,

there you go. So get an LFA or

Carrera GT and then you can win all

the rev offs. Yeah, and I've

brought this up before, but we, I

know a guy and his one of his

things he would say is he's never

lost a rev off. Dang, that's about

how douchey he was. What do you say

with his arms crossed like leading

up against his car? Exactly, dude.

And he goes, we're all family here.

Yeah, and he's got a tooth pick

in his mouth. Yeah. All right,

everybody. All right, that's a

show. Thanks for listening. Later. Bye.

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