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Fix And Repair Daily
About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds about the current challenges in the automotive repair industry, particularly the ongoing parts shortages and the quality of replacement parts. Host Dave Polach shares anecdotes from his visits to repair shops, highlighting frustrations with faulty new parts and the creative solutions mechanics employ to keep cars on the road. The episode also touches on the evolution of car ownership and the disappearance of certain models, while Dave reminisces about his military experiences with cars in different countries, showcasing the resourcefulness required in car repairs.
Topics:
parts shortages
repair challenges
quality of replacement parts
creative solutions
car ownership trends
disappearing car models
military car experiences
resourcefulness in repairs
Cars:
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet El Camino
Dodge Neon
Ford Escort
Ford F 100
GMC Jimmy 3 Doors
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
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Dave Let's Talkcarsradio dot com. Now here's the host of Let's Talk Cars Radio,
Dave Polage. Happy Saturday, America. You're listening Let's Talk Cars Radio
on Freedom Radio. I'm your big hosts davp Alomicaren Chaos and AVB. Hey,
it is a great day for a radio show. It's a great day
for a car show. If you guys are listening, you guys know that
you need to one be out at you guys know it rolling with the Knight's Car Show over at Church of Ascension in Virginia Beach, princess An Road.
It is. The address is forty eight to fifty three is where they're supposed
to be a forty eight fifty three Princess ann Road, So uh yeah, that is the place to be. Come out there, hang out with us,
say hello. We got the whole crew out there, whole crew,
so it is a good setup. Liberty Transmission is helping sponsor that event with
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you guys can play and donate some money to charity, all the good stuff.
You know how it works. So it has been an interesting week this
week. So the car industry itself, you know, I just I don't
know where it's going. Every time I turn around, it's like downhill.
Well, you know, you hear about electric cars and it's well, maybe we don't want electric cars. And then it's like, well things are getting
hard to fix and finding parts and blah blah blah blah. And I got
to think in a while, I was having some conversations week. So you
guys know, I love stopping into shops and talking with people and seeing what they got going on. And it seems like a lot of shops that I
have stopped into have that great problem we've been talking about where cars are sitting and you can't get parts for him, or you're waiting for the repair or whatever it may be. And cars have been they're sitting for a lot longer.
I guess the one they need to and a lot of that has to do with it. It's it's parts. Like I said, I've told you
guys a thousand times, you can't get parts. But so I guess the
question that I get hit with all the time, right, is is it a part issue? Is it a manufacture issue? Is it a shop issue?
Is it a and a lot of times it's one percent is a part issue. But with that being said, sometimes you get demons in a car.
You know, you could throw one hundred new parts of a car are and still have you know, all the same problems, right, if that makes sense. So what you end up having is is so talking with a
garage this week, think about where they bought three new parts out of like maybe the ten parts they put on the car. Those three parts out of
the ten were bad right out of the box and you don't know because you've installed kind of parts like any parts electronic. A lot of in the industry
alone has seen a lot of electrical problems, just a lot of like a lot of electrical gremblins with computers and like nome brands like OEM or are they like third party up so are you're kind of seeing it like in both so talking about some of the garage, they've had stuff that's come right out of the dealership that has been bad right out of the box. And they've had
stuff that's come after market it's been bad rout of the box. One of
the worst things about it is, let's say you get a computer, right, You've got a computer problem to end up getting a computer, and when you're doing all that, you install it right, so you assume that the parts good, it's new, it's not bucks whoa I say, And then you think it's new, and then you put it on and it's not, and then you have to fight with it is new. How else are you
supposed to test to see if it works? So without the problem like okay,
so a couple of stories this week. Let's just say you install a
new wire and harness Okay, it's new. Right, you had a bad
wire harness, you put a new wire and harness in, you take the time off. You guys have never put a wire and harness in a car.
It's not fun with everything in the way. Avery's like, oh,
I put wire Harnson car all the time. It's easy. I'm like,
yeah, But you're building a car and most of the stuff wasn't in the way, right, you have everything all open, you could run it, and then you start putting all the parts back together, and it's not a big deal. But when you have the car all assembled, you're trying to
fish the wire and harness back out and went in. So you take the
bad one out and you put a new one in, and then the car still has a problem, and you're not of course you know what you're not thinking wire harness. I always hate that. It is like you just put
a new party, so it has to be something else, right, Absolutely, You're like, I just I just put this part in. Odds that
I got a bad part, okay, back in the day, very slim rarely nowadays I know of just recently. Well that's because okay, okay,
time out. That's because back in the days, you guys made what ten
parts? Now, I know the numbers. Numbers are different, you know,
but you're almost ten parts to now are one hundred parts? Is like
we make thousands of parts and mass productions. Now, I will tell you
that, of course we have failures somewhere. I will tell you that I
know back in the day. I say, back in the day, let's
go back fifteen years that there was certain cars that I knew the parts tend to be bad right out of the box, if that makes sense, and I would order two of them at a time when I would order just in case, justin because I just it happened to me so many different times.
Or you get like that certain brand, well it's not kind of happening, and it just kept happening over and over again. So let's say I need
to order like a body control module, right, I'd order two because not out of ten times, I kid you not, not one of them was bad. And it was usually always the one I first put in as doesn't
work, and I put the second one and in the second one works.
It just what happened to me. So when I would call, I'm like,
just get me two, and know I'm sending one back right, you know, just just know one of them's coming back to We had that problem on the Raft four for the long time. If everybody remembers, if any
had a RAB four, you had problems with their computers and they were they were sketchy at best. Now keep in mind a lot of stuff you had
to get through aftermarket, but they were still sketchy and they still are.
Like you still see those cars come through the repair shop and they still have computer issues. And it's not the newest ones all that much, right the
second, but the older ones that you had out there. So you had
that problem. But like I said, imagine you get a wirehrse, you
put it in and you're still getting codes and stuff in the car, and you're like, well, I know I put the wire hearts has got to be something else. And then you go through everything else, right because you
think it's a computer. So then you get a computer for it. You
still got the code and all the omer starting to kind of find out it's the wire and harsh you put in has a break in it somewhere that you wouldn't even thought. You got to go all down that rabbit hole searching for
everything everything else, that's right, everything else. Have you ever heard of
like green parts? Green parts? Yeah, so I was reading an article
about you know, you can get like refurbished like auto parts and stuff, and they're like seventy percent cheaper stuff. Like do you ever like run into
that problem where like you think it's a green part or they're not disclosing it.
There's a lot So in the car market itself, there is a lot of manufacturers that we use that Like the normal guy who goes to like Advance or NAPA or AutoZone or car Quest, you name it, insert a part supplier here, would use those people, right right, Like there's people that we being in the business for as long as most of the people have been in the car business, we use companies that aren't household names by any means.
Right, we know, I know this guy builds these certain computers for this car, and that's where I'm going to order it from. Right,
No different in the transmission business buying stock, you guys go buy stuff from the regular parts supplier, when like like we buy stuff through names that aren't household names that you probably would never ever even think or even know to do business with. Like if I said Ralco. People would be like, oh,
I know Reco. I'm like, but it's not the realco you're thinking
of. Roco is actually a parts manufacturer that has parts and they do refurbishing
parts when most people don't know that, they don't use them. So but
you can find things like the same company has a household name, but they also make a different product. I'll give you an I'll give you another one.
So I used to. I used to say all the time. I'm
like, well, I'll just call Keystone and get from Keystone. Everybody,
nobody, like a regular customer does a no Keystone. But they were a
huge player there for a big part that you get a lot of different parts through them. They were like Keystone tires No, no, no, like
they maybe even maybe the same company makes the tires, I don't know.
They're making headlights and they are making computers, and they're making all different kinds of other stuff. You could just get everything real cheap through them. It
was it was real easy. We used to use them for years. Of
them to another one was API, which was uh the commercial side that a lot of people didn't know, and it was its own standalone which is separate from one of the large parts manufacturers that every customer normally uses, but nobody would know that name, and that we used to get tons of exhaust from them because they used to sell exhaust or coated exhaust right. And you know,
if you're in one of the areas and you want a nice exhaust, you wanted to last. Having a coated exhaust was a real big deal back
then. But like I said, the average customer that was going to do
their ow work wouldn't even know, not even use that person. But with
that being the case, you run into so many manufacturers of so many parts, you run into problem and the pretty well, I can tell you there was a Volkswagen back in the day you get water pumps from and the water pump was bad. The empeller was bad on the inside of it. You
put it on and it would last very short period of time. Then peller
would come off. You wouldn't know because think about it, the water pump
steals up and the impellers, you know, inside you kind of find out if they don't make the empeller right, and you're like, you're like, I just put a new water pump on it. Why is this carstal overheating?
You couldn't figure it out because you know, you just put a new water pump on it. But what happened was the impeller actually has come off
inside it's no longer so the water is going. But well you wouldn't hear
it. I can't. It happened on a lot of cars to me,
a lot of cars. Well, not only is this like affecting repairs,
but it's also affecting like current production vehicles, like it is the twenty twenty Ford F one fifty was impacted in it because they don't have all the parts, all the parts except one. At some point, do you think like
we're making the problems on purpose to certainty, because we also have like our chip shores, right and the chip short because that we made brand you know, a bunch of brand new EV cars and stuff. So it's kind of
like we're feeding the problem because we're trying to push a new agenda. So
a lot of the cars that you're seeing in the repair shops now, So now you're getting to the point where you're starting to see like they don't want you to keep that team Arentines nineteen twenty and twenty One's like you're starting to see twenty one back to like twenty sixteen's as all the failures, right.
I got in a conversation this week where somebody was like, man, I just I feel like this isn't against you forward guys, because I actually kind of defended you guys a little bit. Believe or not, I've defended Ford.
Hold on, let me look up make sure so. But they were
like, man, I just feel like my four trucks constantly in the shop.
And I was like, well, don't feel bad. You and everybody
realize like you and ever. I was like, I was like, I'm
a Chevy guy. You guys know how I feel about my Chevy truck.
I said, but Chevy trucks are falling out of the sky too. They
got, they get, they get they're riddled with problems, just like the new Ford and all in that year from like sixteen to twenty one, they're having problems with them. I'm like, it's not just you with a Ford.
Chevy's having it, Dodge's having the problem, believe it or not.
There's been a little influx in Toyotas, Like Toyletas you used to never have problems like you should never heard that Toyota I feel like you kind of go to that like that kind of problem where you know, the car is so new for so many years and it gets taught so highly and until you start running to the same problems years later. The two cars you rarely heard anything
about for the longest time. You do you hear anyth about Honda? Do
you hear anything about Toytoa? They just always off the map. You rarely
sol them in the repair shop. Now you're start to see them show up
every once in a while, Like why I told you guys on our new camera. Y, my camera had four thousand miles on it for the check
engine like popped up on it four thousand miles. I'm like, why do
I have a check injinline on a car's got four thousand miles and it's electronic key break system which now is supposed to do that. You know, now
if you go there's actually stuff online that talks about the electronic key break system on the cameras, which they are having problems with it. But of course
when I took my car and I'm like, look, I think I'm having an issue, They're like, oh, I don't see anything wrong with it.
I'm like, well, I'm not making it up. I didn't.
Like I always say, nobody takes their car to repair shop because they got nothing better the time, right, they just don't. Nobody wants to sit
down well or drop it off or whatever it may be. But apparently you
can drop a car off for months now and it just you know, it just sits there for months, and that's just what it's going to be.
That seems to be just cars laying around. Every shop you go to has
a story. They literally have a story where they have a car sitting in
the corner. They got a couple of them, have a couple of four
or five cars. They just can't get the cars to it. You and
I know the customers frustrated, but you know, what do you do?
And so it's funny because I was as you sit and you listen to people talk, and you understand that this garage side frustration, right, because they're like, man, I've tried everything. This car seems to have every time
I put something on it, there's another problem and there's another part, and it's like, can't seem to get rid of this car. And you feel
for them, but then you start thinking about the customer side of the imagine the customer, right, all the problems are so in some of these instance, the car leaves and it comes back, and it leaves and it comes back right and here trying to get it back to the shop. Absolutely,
and all that frustration and they you know, and they're just frustrated with the shop. But it's not the shop put this part on it. The car
left that drove Wade din't have many problems, and then all of a sudden, it's got another problem comes and then you got it. It's not the
same problem, but it's a problem. And certainly when you were told like
it's fixed, you should have no problem. So you're you know, you
might go on that you know, that beach vacation that you want to you're on that vacation in the car. We've had it happen, you guys know
we had it happened. I told you, you know, the roadside with
a toolbox on the side of the road. You know, you know we
fixed it fixed in the water promp. We picked the rental up. You
know, had small issues, you guys, are you guys hear the story?
We picked up our runner card. We had to work on our renner
car to make it work right, so we could take it on the trip.
Now, the things that were wrong wasn't It wasn't a big deal.
But you know, a small thing. But here's that people who don't know.
Most people don't have the knowledge to fix this stuff, right. I
mean, we have the knowledge, but most people don't have a toolkit in the back of their truck to be able to grab I mean, well, think how many times I keep a toolbox, guys, in my truck that it's it's not a huge toolbox, but it's it's a fault, but it has pretty much everything. If you really need to take a good majority of
the car apart, you're getting it apart with that toolbox. And I keep
it with me and we have used it time and time. The right tool
but on it's got all the sockets, it's got wrenches, it's got you know, it's got everything. Kind of it folds up, it clicks in
a case, sides comfortably, don't neath to see the truck, and it pretty much everything. And then just to double up on it, as I'd
always told you guys, when I travel, I throw an electric impact with an extra battery underneath to see too. So I have my impact, so
I'm not sitting there. Having to do everything by hand just makes sense.
But the average person doesn't have that knowledge. They have to take it to
an auto garage. And then you guys are hinted on the hinge to an
auto garage for doing the work. And then sometimes, like I told you,
guys, anger is misplaced because it's not the auto garage. It's fault
that they can't fix it, or because of the car has grimens. The
biggest problem you have right in cars is when you start to st things and you got to take things apart to get to things. You had to take
other stuff apart to get there. And it seems like once you disturb something,
connections aren't made right, whatever it may be, it just turns into a big snowball. And it's not from them not I mean, they've replaced
the part that you paid in to replace, so that that's done. But
now it's like this is the weaker link to the part. Now this part
doesn't want to work right, and it's just it's funny hows. And like
I said, as I was talking with the garages this week, I started thinking about you know, I told you guys, when I was the military.
I went to a lot of different countries and stuff like that. I
saw a lot of different crazy repairs car stuff, and it's like I start thinking about that and how that applies to everything right, and it's kind of funny. I got some stories for you guys, want to share with you
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Now back to your host Dave Polach, Hey, guys, welcome back.
So right before we had a courtier breakouts time, you guys, you know I had the I say pleasure. I guess maybe I probably didn't think about
it being pleasure back then, right, because you know, in the military you're all over the place. But you know, when you get all you
start think about the places you got to see and all the things you got to see, you can realize that you know places you'd be gone. Right.
It's funny because of the repairs and some of the cars and stuff that I saw in my travels and some of the stuff I had to deal with in my travels. Okay, so imagine that you had to find a way
to fix your car and parts are hard, and that's what we're starting to run to. Like it, so it's not as bad as is. But
if you guys ever heard like the Cuba story, there was a car show that used to be a TV show you spawned it where they had like Cuba repairs or something like that. It was like the Son and it was there
was the kid and the father and not rob but no, they would like talk about like they would take random stuff off of other cars. So they
had a source like the like the big parts off of like a car that never the part never belonged on came. Was like they go rob stuff that
they'd have to go source parts off of other cars that they didn't like, they didn't fit and then make them work right, And that's to me, that's being resourceful, right, So well you got to be, especially when there's more cars every day, you know, being produced, you know, getting crushed. I mean it's just not you know, you're not find everything
in the scrapyard. No is. You have to come on, how do
you think we how do you think we found out other parts fit on other cars because of them? Come on now, I mean like it helped.
There's been many instances, Like Nathaniel and I were talking about it back when I was, you know, heavily into the into the car game, and I did it for a living before I retired. I was. I always
thought I was extremely resourceful. So I'd call manufacturer and the parts all of
it's on back order, you can't have it for it, And we run into that a lot. Right this second, I'm like, okay, So
then you go to your aftermarket you know, line of things. You try
to see what he had right or the manufacturer right? No, no,
I would a manufacturer told me, you know so that I supply, right.
So then I go afterwards to the suppliers and they're like, I can't get it for you either. So then I'd call every single junk yard source.
And I'm like, okay, do you guys have one that you know at the junk yard that I can you know, I got to get this person back on the road. Everybody goes, oh, you put Junkyard parts
in a car, will trust me? Okay, if you all don't know
a Junkyard part, if it was working, works just as fine as it are not a Junkyard part. Junkyard cars are just cars that somebody was driving
just like you one day and got into an accident, and now we are just getting the parts that you paid seventy parts of the but like mound parts are demolished. But I mean sometimes like okay, so per big instance in
the conversation and I was having I couldn't there was a car I couldn't find the part for nobody had it. Everything was on back order. I think,
like to of the parts that I was looking for on it was like discontinued. I mean, you name it. It had a problem. So
taking outside the box, my biggest thing was always trying to get the customer back on the road. I mean that was just very very important to me,
which matches up with the watching that show from Cuba where they were doing anything could to get the car on the road right. That makes it work.
I bought an eight hundred dollars knuckle where the manufacturer was trying to sell a brand new knuckle for eight hundred dollars before it was installed. Went to
another car that wasn't even mine, that had the same exactly way it is the same car. It's the same car, but different make model. You
guys know what, I'm making model, same same make, the model it's a G thirty, the same different they're not. They are one's faster cars
and their division is. I bought something that was worth eight hundred dollars for
fifty bucks. So you know, sometimes it works out. Resourceful thing resourceful.
I in this situation couldn't get the parts to the car because nobody had them. So I got onto well back then it was Craigslist. Now you
guys have marketsplace, but Craigslist it's still not that good. Whatever happened to
offer it up and let go, they let go so and they had nothing to offer up. So but I literally went to Craigslist and I found the
car that I was working on and had been in an accident. The back
of the car was smashed. I needed engine parts, so I bought the
whole car. If I would have bought the parts that I needed for the
car, it was like seven hundred dollars. If I could have got the
parts, which I couldn't get them, right, it was seven hundred bucks.
I bought the whole car wrecked for five hundred dollars. I tore it
to the shop. I took the parts off I needed, off the engine,
and I called the customer. I said, I got your problem solved.
Here's how I solved it. So it's not like you're like not trying
to tell the customer. No. I was like, here's no the car.
This is how we solved it. Like here's need. I needed an
intake for it and some other things for it. I just couldn't get Nobody
had them. Well, you said, the part isn't the park, So
I took them off. I was able to get new gaskets and stuff.
So I took the intake, the gasket and put everything, swapped everything over I needed to, and the customer was on their way. Now, to
me, that's just creative thinking. Because I couldn't get the parts. I'm
I mean, I didn't know when I was we would get the parts.
I've told you guys before I had in the past. I have cars that
set there for two or three months because I couldn't get the part. A
national backwuardter, what are you gonna do? I can't get it. Nobody
has even if you got to make something up right, but it should be the quality of the hard part though. Well I'm just saying, but if
you are going to do it, it should be quality of OEM style.
Absolutely. I mean there's a lot of your stuff. Why do you think
every auto shop has a bolt bucket? I mean, go grab bucket.
Do you all remember when I took you guys were young, I took you out of the junk yard and I hand you guys ran. I was like,
just grab all those bolts and throw them in the bucket. It's hardcore
money right now. I used to do that, but I was I was
in you know, I was in the business, and I realized that bolts just break or that, you know, and it's really expensive. You guys
are in the car market. You guys know, you know, we all
have a bolt bend, but you never have always the right bowl in the bolt bend. So when I go to the junkyard, had to go grab
up party something like that, and they went with me. I've had them
on a bunch of bolts and throwing the bucket. I grab all the fuses,
all the relays, everything and throw in a bucket, pay very little for it, and then just have it. I can't count how many times
built. So that's what he's talk about. That did you go to that
bucket and I had the bolt that you needed in that bucket that you couldn't isn't our bolt bend? It's not the right one. It's closed, but
it's not the right one, and but it works. Well. You know
I need a relay. Well I can't get your relay for three days,
and I'm like, go in the bucket, see if there's a relay in there, And for sure enough, we'd have a relay in the bucket and you plug it right in the customers back in the road. I tell the
customer, Hey, I had that bolt, my bolt bend. I had
that relay. You know. I here's what I do. I go to
the young gard I throw them in a bucket when I need them, And it just so happened I had yours in the bucket. Congratulations, you know
what I mean. Like, but they're your today there thinking outside the box.
It's getting it done. You need down the cars on the road.
It's just what it is. It costs money if it's sin or if it's
running. Yeah. Absolutely, So like I said, it's it's one of
those things. So when I was watching that show and it said, you
don't know why they took it off TV, I remember, so I was.
I was in Cuba for a while three four, five, maybe six months, I can't remember, it's been so long. I was there for
a little while, and I was shocked. And that's the way before this
TV show was ever on, they were stuck in the stone age like with car like like it's like time just stopped. And that's and my understanding is
is that's when all this stuff happened with our government and we stopped doing trades and all that kind of stuff. So wherever we stay stopped, that's where
they were stuck in. So there was a lot of old cars, and
that's what people were driving, were these old cars. And then you start
looking at the like the marvel of like how they've gotten them to stay together.
So they kept nice or they kind of just really put together. Some
are nice, but summer just put together. There's raggedy. I've seen we
we talked about some of our cars like oh man, this has gone out, or this is making annoy the breaks were making annoise. I've seen cars
in other countries that have no doors or no fires running down the road.
That's nothing. I've seen cars the wrong door just it's just appear or just
apparently the hinge just matched up. They hinge pinned it. The door is
closed. There is a bungee cord because the door doesn't match up to the
gap, and it's just a bungee cord. And that's just the door a
door. What are you talking about. I've got a baby gait as my
door. But I'm just saying, like it's it's very interesting, and so
I understand how they get to that point right where they're like, I'm just gonna make this work. I've watched where some people are going to break caliber,
but somehow they've made a bracket and got it to go on there.
And now that break caliber stops that car, but it's got a completely different one on the other side. You know what I mean. You're like,
but that's just one side of the coin, right, so different had half the money, guys, the money. But I've been you know, I've
been in some countries where, uh, I see cars I've never seen before.
And that's what I always knew. There was other cars out there,
but this one of my younger and I was younger, man to be talking about like exotic or just like unique cars everyday cars. Some were exotic,
some are a little bit of everything. I'm like, man, I've never
seen that car. And then we didn't have that, you know. You
guys, remember, we didn't really have the internet like we use now.
Back when I was younger and in the military, the Internet was there, but nobody was using it. We weren't searching stuff like you could just one
click on your phone and see something. You know. Back then, I'm
like, man, I wonder what that is. It's not like you like
got back to a computer and go look it up and find out, oh, that's you know, Nissan makes this. You know, every once in
a while you'd see a badge on them, like that's a Nissan. I've
never seen that Nissan before, and that guys, realizing that they've made a lot of cars for other countries, No other pro they mass production. Mass
production of that car just never comes to this country, and I'm like, oh, that car should have came. Like I remember the first time I
saw Holding Company, which is a division of Chevy. But you know,
well every once while, this one's been important you see around here. But
they have like a whole another line of like cars that it so Holding is if you guys don't know. Most of you guys know this in the show,
but if you don't, Holden is a division of Chevy and that they make cars for like Australia and I think another couple of other countries don't.
Is its own line or is it like so they had it. They had
like an El Camino. Yeah, that's like a new while Yeah they have
like a new Alkmino. They had there's a sedan. I can't remember what
the name of it is. As it was, it was like features that
you know, go they have like Chevy parts, so they have like the LS motors in them and stuff like that. But you know, but the
body designs are completely different on the interior setups are different on them. I
think they I'm sure they rob parts from a little bit of everything. But
so I remember the first time I saw one of those. And then I
saw toyotas that weren't sold here in America that are sold in other countries that I went to that are pretty cool, and I'm like, oh, that would have been a hit in America, you know. I mean, like
if they would have made that and put that in America, that that car would sell, I think very well. Do you were like kind of look
up and see like why some of those aren't made? Like I said,
we didn't use the internet like that, like you, I mean, and nowadays, what had my phone? I'm did a standing over the top of
the car, but like what is this and why? You know what I
mean to figure it out. We didn't have quick search and I just remember
seeing like like I was shocked when I was in Cuba. I saw two
trans old trans ams in Cuba, but both of them were sitting on blocks and they had been parts have been robbed off them. But it was just
cool. I was just like, oh, well, you know, go
to see them us. But you start to trying to figure out how they
got there because trans am was way past the cutoff, you know what I mean. You know they've been there for a little while. Back then they
didn't have computers. They had to go to Racer's Edge and go try to
talk to Tony and get the You guys don't even understand that car we had the little paper clip used to hop around on the screen. Yeah, it
is, like I said, it's just a completely different world, right, I mean, just this, And like I said, so I went to Germany, right, Germany like just blew your mind, blew my mind.
I gotta take quick worse of break. I will tell you about Germany because
I was just a little shocked by Germany and jealous at the same time.
I wish I was stationed at Germany at that point time. That's how jealous
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to courture breakouts, telling you guys about the different cars different countries and the things I've seen how they've repaired cars. Now in Germany it was different.
So everything that I saw in Germany was nice, like really nice. Were
they on the other side of the red I think yeah, I think they were. I'm trying to remember I was. I know, I was on
a bus going like one hundred and twenty miles an hour, and a bus on a bus, bus on a bus, cars are still and it's like we were standing still with no guardrails. Was that kilometers? No, it
was like we were flying like were we were flying in a bus. Like
I've never gone that bast they got it and probably never want to, I know what event, and I don't think I ever want to go that fast again. But one of the things when I was there, so I was
military and I was young, and when I was on base, like all the like seamen it was you know, Navy, so like semen, semen apprentice and stuff like that. They're driving around really nice cars. And I
know, I told you guys this a little bit about this before, but like they had like Porschas, nice Mercedes, nice BMW's, and I was driving a Cavalier, guys, so kind of tell you it was it was Mine was brand new I bought. I bought a brand new off the Sherman
floor when it first came out, and I was praying in Germany or ship over no no no, no, no, no. Mine. I bought
it here in the States but so I was in Germany. But I remember
I was. I used to smoke back then. I was sitting outside and
I was smoking. I like, i see like a nine to eleven go
by, and I'm like, oh man, that's really nice. It's got
really nice wheels on it. I mean it had it was it was.
It was a nice car. Pops parks and i see like this kid get
out of it, and I'm like, oh, going, this must be a sergeant. No, because it wouldn't be a captain. Maybe the kids
come. He's like wait a minute. So you know, I'm sitting on
smoked cigarette and what's your rink? Son? Maybe like like two minutes later,
a really nice, nice, tricked out Mercedes comes into the parking lot and it parks and this other kid gets out. I'm like, so,
who is y'all's record. After a while, I start recognizing that there was
like a lot of nice cars in the parking lot. There was like nothing
junk. I mean, they were nice. And most of these cars,
because us being car guys, we don't know how to leave things on, they all had like wheels on them. They were lower the cars, And
I'm like, man, this parking lot is like it looks like a showroom, like of cars in the parking lot. So I got to talking with
some of the guys and they're like, look the cars here, they're jumped to them, like they get some miles on them, and they don't want them. They just go out and buy something new, and we buy these
things for nothing. Now here's the thing. Everybody's like, well, man,
I would do that. They're not USA spect Okay, so they're German
spec. They don't have all the I don't think a lot of people understand
what that means. But basically he's saying like the United States will make us
install one mission part rather than other countries will be like I forget about well not just so much that the biggest problem was is the bracing and the doors and stuff like that. So they don't they're not required. So a lot
of the cars don't have all those bracings that you need to have to have that car of the United States. And the only way that you could bring
the car the United States was have somebody going and do and modify it, modify it and stuff. That was the big thing. So of course they're
enjoying those cars while they're in Germany. But as far as bringing some of
those cars back with them, they're gonna pass it down to the next guy to get station there, you know what I mean. It's just the way
it's good. This could have passed it to another military man. Just make
an extra thousand on it because they cheap, you know, I mean, they were nice, and I was like, okay, so what's cost to have it converted? Like some of the conversions were in bad they're like five
six thousand dollars. So if you had a nine to eleven and you were
in the military and a young man, and it was five six thousand dollars, which was quite a bit of money back then, but still five six grand to have your nine to eleven converted. So the ship back, like
for the state, it was where you might want to grab a couple of those if you can afford it, you know what I mean, running back with you but by bold. So then that's how that's actually how Japan is.
You know, I've been looking at their conversion rates. One our money.
Actually you can't bring they got to come back its parts right in the same can't There's certain ways you can do it, but yes, technically you would have to take off at least three of the wheels and remove the removed of parts and remove the engine front. There's a lot of stuff. I
don't know all that. I don't know all the tricks of the trade,
but I know that there's it's not a car if you remove the axuals.
I mean, hey, you take the engine out and you got to steer.
Will a really great car. Now, when I said when I was
in Italy, one of the things that like kind of I wasn't really impressed with anything there, Like I didn't see anything there small cars, small cars and stuff like that. Now, when I was the Cavalier stood. Here's
the thing, so I told you guys about my cat. I bought a
Cavalier. And the reason why is because I had a mini truck at the
time and driving a mini truck long distance from where we're at back to Chicago, which just wasn't feasible to drive many truck. So I bought a Cavalier.
Even again, right, well, I mean my main truck got good gas miles, it just it was lowered, it was sitting on wheels, and it wasn't practical. I mean, it's just not practical. Back then,
seven miles a gallon. It was more than a lot more than I
think. I think. I want to say that thing got like twenty two
twenty two miles of a gallon from getting better than I am. So I
bought the Cavalier just so the ride comfort and all that kind of stuff to go back forth. It was a great car. It was a great car
until it wasn't. Uh, A mechanic work on it and messed up,
and the motor was never the same after that. I even had another motor
swapped into it under warranty, and the car just never ran the same.
It just and that was sad because I had that car and it ran so great. I know it's just a cavaliering wrong, but the car ran perfect.
I mean like I never had any problem. Was there really a physical
thing or do you feel like mentally it just never ran the same? No?
No, No, I didn't run the st It never ends. Yeah.
Some people were just like they had that ick where they're just like something's been touched. I know something has been touched. Okay, So if you
guys run the Cavalier, you guys that technicians have worked on or anybody owned one, they within like the first twenty thousand miles had a tick to the motor. They just had a TICKI noise. Just it was real light,
but you could hear with the hood clothes. You could hear the ticky noise.
Then they would say that's not normal. Now they say that's eco mode.
It's okay. They was normal in that car. What it ended up
being on the Cavalier. And like I said, technicians that were in the
note those that don't. They used a hardened like plastic timing gear set that
was on it, and the ticky noise you could hear was actually the chain or whatever going around that timing thing. They end up making a replacement for
it that was metal. When you put the replacement and then it wouldn't make
the ticket noise. And it's not that you were it was time for one.
At twenty thousand miles. Obviously it's not time to do the timing on
it right. But once you replace it with the upgrade timing set, the
car never ticked again. And I did mine right it about it was dried
me nuts, so I did it righte it about twenty thousand miles and then my motor was whispered quiet, never made any noise. Now move forward.
I let somebody work on my car and they didn't put the fuel injector in it with a seal on it, and it flooded the cylinder and then destroyed the motor. When I got the next motor, the motor just always was
louder, the normal, normal than what my mortar was. Now, keep
in mind, I also told you guys, I'm a little weird. I
changed oil at like every three thousand miles on a car religiously. Sometimes if
I get to go on a road trip, and if I go on a road trip and come back, it get an oil change. Un if I
didn't hit the three thousand mile mark, I just drove that thing for fourteen hours straight one way and fourteen hours straight the other way. As soon as
I got back, it got an oil change put on it. You know
what I mean. I just that's just me. You know this day,
you know what happened, right, engine was on backward and so they had to go get it. That wasn't it. But it's just it never sounded
the same, and we end up get rid of it because it just was.
I couldn't unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, like I said, and
I know it's just a cab here, but when you have a car, like I told you guys before, we're one of my favorite cars I've had, and I've had a lot of different cars that are nice cars. Jimmy
My GMC Jimmy. I loved my GMC Jimmy and never give me problems.
I put two hundred and seventy eight thousand miles on that thing and it still ran like a champ whisper quiet, never had any problems with it. I
do wish Man Nate had like a chance when we were when we were teenagers to be able to at least drive the Jimmy. But you like the Jimmy
because I had stereo system in it. Yeah, I had a wicked Jimmy.
Was just like a that was the definition of a. No, it
was, no, it was it was. It was in a suburban.
Yes, small, it was a nice bool. It go like big because
you guys were small, right right, we weren't you guys, You're like, what are you guys? Seven? Like you know seven eight times?
Yeah? Yeah, I mean so it seems I know whenever Blockbuster was still
no. I mean I loved my Jimmy, you know, there's certain vehicles
that I've had that I didn't pay a whole lot of money what I feel like a whole lot of money for U that were great. It was valued
at you're right, Well, you're right, there were great vehicles. I
bought the Jimmy from an auction is where I end up getting it from.
I bought it right out of an auction here in town. And then I
went through and fixed everything on. I went through all the braking system.
I went and put new shocks on it. I told you everybody, s
if you ever heard me tell the stories about that vehicle, people joked me because they always called it whatever the current year was. Mine was the you
know, the two thousand and one, two thousand and five GMC Jimmy, the two thousand and one two thousand and six gems. Because it made a
squeak of fart, you name it, it got a new part put on it, Like anytime it made a funny noise. It was on the rack,
and I was having my technicians going, I tell me what that noise is, and put put a new part on it. Because I don't like
drive cars with noises. I just I don't. I can't do it drives
me nuts. So that vehicle got a lot of tension, but it also
didn't give me any problems. It was another good purchase for me. Now,
cars and days give you problem out for the first four months. Hey,
welcome to new life. Hi. Like I said, so here inventions.
I'm not enventions, but you know new technology, right, all right, I'll give a perfect example. So when I went to Spain, right,
I told you guys, Italy, I wasn't really impressed with anything nearly.
When I went to Spain, they used Mercedes for taxicabs. Mercedes,
yeah, they were Mercedes. Bands were used for taxi cabs everywhere where I
was when I was in Spain. So so instead of the big M on
the front and had like a big team, no, it did, but it did have taxi signs on top of them. And I thought that was
just weird because you know, for US Mercedes night. I mean, they
were nice there too, but you know, they're that's what luxury car, you know what I mean, And they're using them just as taxicabs. And
I'll tell you what that taught me. And everybody goes, why is that
relevant? Because when I got back to the States and I left the military
and I ended up getting heavily into the car business. Stuff like that.
I needed we needed a loaner car for the garage I was working at, and I bought a Mercedes as a loaner car. And the reason why I
did that is because I saw the abuse when I was in Spain that they could be put through because they did not take care of them there, and they just kept on going down the road. And I was like, we
need to get it, and sure sure enough, best thing I ever did, because we had over three hundred some one thousand miles on our Mercedes loaner and it was still going down the road without Wow, Pops, is like we got learned that from being in Spain and seeing them using them as taxicas, and like, well they're using the taxicabs. They must last. We
here in New York and they got it. That's a car you can't kill.
I'm pretty sure you know they're incentivized right to probably buy those cars.
They are. Hold on. We can burning through it. I got to
take another course of break, wake back. We'll follow up on these guys.
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host, Dave Polach. Hey, guys, welcome back. Hey. So
it's kind of funny because you know, we're talking in the last segment about Mercedes and Spain be newsed as a taxi cab. But it got me think
I remembered the car. Most of you guys remember this but the Toya CRESTAA
like, it wasn't a it wasn't a hip car. It wasn't like a
really cool car or anything like that. But I will tell you as I
was just telling them it get up and go, like my buddy would like have five people in that thing, and that car would still like moves.
That just turned out to be kind of a cool kid car like a while.
And then Nathana goes, what about the Crown. I totally forgot about
the Crown. If you guys never seen one of those, I completely forgot
about the Crown. And so and I'll talk about the Crown, VIC talk
about the Crown, the Crown, the Crown, Crown. Yep. So
that was a car. And then uh, a lot the cars just like
I think that kind of got us to where as far as I'm concerned growing up as a kid, some of the cars that they were like the staple of like transportation, right. So the Chevy Chavette. So I saw a
Chevy Chavette that used to be a common name too. I saw a Chevy
Chavette yesterday for sale for thirty nine hundred dollars. It's like an eighty six
Chevy Chavette. I'm like, why that's what you bought it for? You
bought it? Was it? Really think a Chevy Chavette back then fully loaded
brand new. I think it was like seventeen hundred dollars brand new for Chevy
Chavette. Yeah, look it up, see what it is. But I
believe it was like seventeen hundred bucks want brand new. It's they want they
want to see. You just don't know what you haven't you had it that
there's one of the sitting that's that literally way by the way, This Chevette that I saw is not nice. It's not like it's pristine work. And
they're still getting over three grand for and I'm like, what the world's going on? But they were still like okay the ford Escort. Tell me,
like any look around guys when you're on the road, and tell me where did all the ford Escorts go? There was we were littered with them.
There was so many. This is the funny thing though, is that like
when like you see cars littered all over the place and all of a sudden there's just nowhere to be found, right, Like, I just got a question. The Facebook posts say sold as is or I know what I get
live in person, live in person, live in person. I saw it
out for sale live and in person, and yeah, so of course, you know, I kind of look at it. That's why I said it
wasn't nice like it. It's there, it looks like it's complete, has
most of the parts, most but over three grand for something that you wouldn't pay that much for it new. I'm trying, like, here's another one
on was like we used to remember used to see neons everywhere Man Dodge and they were always orange or stupid. They're always dunk. But get on the
road now do you see them where they It's like these cars are like there's so many of them. Disappear. It's like somebody just picked them up,
transported into our space. We've never seen them again. They just disappeared.
It wasn't Dominoes using the neons for their cars for a little bit. Are
you talking about when domino had delivery cars? Because now everybody uses their own
car, but remember, like well I remember like there was companies that had their own delivery cars like that went away. Do you feel like you see
newer cars on the road compared to order cars as years go on. I
do. But here's the thing, like, I like, people aren't keeping
order cars dead serious, you think about some of these cars that impacted our you know, our future to now where did those cars go? And everybody
goes, well, cast your conkers killed all that stuff. And I'm like,
but like it couldn't killed on the right that you just don't seem like you. Okay, So you go to stop light right like now you do.
Now you go to stop light and you'll see ten cameras in traffic, right, you'll just see seriously, I mean I noticed that. I didn't
notice it. I never saw them when I had mine for about the first
year. And then after about the first year and me have my new one,
then I saw them everywhere. Like anything like O five and under is
kind of like you really got to search for it now. But okay,
pick you pick something that's newer than than five. Pick a car that's newer
than O five. I'm trying to think of something like you used to see
tons of them all the time. Okay, I'll give you. So let's
go back to not five. Let's go back to like two thousand and two,
two thousand and three cameras, right, you used to see them everywhere, just like they just disappear off the face went away right exactly like you said, like the ninety six Civic, like the Haness, you know, super popular. Everybody knows, Like, I don't really see that body style
anymore at all either where they all go, unless you know, there be you know, customized. It's just a weird phenomenon. I just I'm not
you know, I'm not saying there's conspiracy anything. It's just it's just weird
that they just and even if you go to the junk yard, you don't see a lot. You think, like it like seasonal. You see like
a junk yard is like kind of seasonal cars. You'll see a bunch of
them scattered and then all of a sudden they start disappearing. Well, yeah,
it is no, I don't, I really don't. I was.
I was just at the junk yard recently. And so they have all the
cars that are out there that you can take the parts off of, right, and then over here is where they're crushing, and they were grinding up and tearing cars apart. I mean like there was just probably about two hundred
cars sit over there that were still complete. So then I start going,
how do you decipher from which ones you're gonna keep and let people take parts off of the right ones you're just gonna grind it one? Does it become
like useless? Right right? Like because I'm looking at I'm like, well,
man, that's like a twenty twelve twenty thirteen that they are just destroying over there right this second, and then over here you got this like nineteens like ninety four that you got sinarator to take parts off of. Like what
determines which one's which? Like is it just by popularity? I don't know.
I guess you do. I guess you do run into that problem where
like not everything is you know, universal, So it's kind of like you know that parts only for that car if they're not on this street anymore.
I'll give you, I'll give you. I'll give you another one. So
here's here's another one. Now you all remember. So we're gonna go back
probably fifteen years, maybe now fifteen years. What happened all the zions that
were out on the road. I don't zions not really Like where do they
all go? There was tons of there was there was a lot of them.
There was a lot of them. I mean I needed a girl that
had his eye on so but that I was surprised she had one you look at. You'd pull up to a light and there was there was a bunch
of them at the light. Now you don't see him, And I'm talking
about the toaster looking one too. I can't. I can't remember that one's
called. Is that is that the XB? Maybe I think it's the one
that looks like the toaster. That's all I ever thought about it. I
was like, it's either a rolling alarm clock or a toaster. It's one
of the two. I told you. I had to employee that bought one
brand new, but when he loved it, and I just I never got it. I didn't understand it. I was just like, so you drive,
it's almost like the Cube, the Nissan Cube. I didn't get that
either. Hey, the kid which literally looks like a toaster going down the
road, or it looks like a small like beat box going down the road.
But that was that was another one. Don't they just disappeared, don't.
I don't think people were really buying him. I think that's that was
then. The Nissan Cube, though, was actually a cool car if you
had like a kid. No, no, no, that's not cool.
That was a fact, and trying to convince you that the Cavalier was cool.
The Cavalier, it was transportation. I don't, don't be wrong.
Now my body had a Z twenty four Cavalier, the older body style, not when they switched to the rounder body style, which I thought it looked cool. I like the body lines on. I thought it had nice bodylines.
If you look at the Z twenty four, is that a cube?
Yeah, it's the cat pulled up. What if I said it wasn't the
cube, you would have said that was an amazing car. No, like
because I recognized it looks like a toaster. Take a look at tell me
that it doesn't look like kind of like a toast. It does look like
a toast. It looks like a cool toaster and a lot of imagine the
fish bowl scenario in that car. I mean, it's me so bad.
I think I think your uncle Chris had one. Either had a cube or
he had a sign he had suck the look. Look if if Uncle Chris
is listening, My funniest moment is when he showed up in a smart car.
Okay, that was a smart car. It was a fie. Now,
my brother is like over six foot tall and he came to business long time. The only car they had. He's like, you need to run
a car so bad. And he shows up and like one of those tiny
little fiats. So imagine this big guy getting out of, you know,
this tiny little car, and I'm like, they didn't have anything else, nothing at all, nothing like I kind of think like you asked for that car, Like I just kind of feel like you were, like, I take that right there. Apparently anything else. Well, that's like a fat
guy getting out of a little car. Wonder like you see him like pride
themselves. I mean, my brother is a skinnier guy, but he's tall
and lanky, so to be he was liked, he was for he was definitely owning it. But it was just weird to see him get out of
it. You can go to the side. That's another thing. So all
those little fiats were run around for a while or better Yet, what happened all the smart cars smart cars, like when they first came out of they were everywhere. You don't see him anyway, and I know what happened.
They all broke down. Many camps would pop wear when they first you don't
understand why not much. I never understood the Mini Cooper thing. I just
can I put it on that. I think they looked. I think they
looked better than all the other alternatives. Like if I could put another motor
in it, maybe I understand it a little bit better. Like so,
I'm I'm a fan of the of the of the killer miatas that they put the l s's and the miadas, and I just think that's just stupid crazy to do. So if you could do something maybe like that, the one
I don't, I don't know. I know I always say LS it.
I could say coyote motor for you four guys, and you know it'd be the same thing. But LS just seem to be the most universal swite.
I can't stand the dashboard, so I would not be anyone with the rap.
Yeah, that's so annoying. I've been a couple of different one craziest
car I was ever in as far as weird wise. I think I told
this story many years ago. Was a Ferrari with a shifter was up on
the desh sticking out and you had to shift it. I was like that,
I don't know which model that was, but it was very, very strange and it was very awkward. I mean, if you think of three
in the trees, a little strange to drive, try to drive someonehere.
The shifter is kind of sticking out at you and you got to kind of shift. It just was very good race car. Yeah, well yeah,
not even a race car. That was just it was strange that came through.
I was running a department, and none of my guys I'd trust to move it because at that point the car is probably worth five hundred thousand dollars, was an older one where it's a little more valuable. I was like,
I was like, I'll move this one. I got to drive a
lot of cool cars that way back in the day because a company I worked for got a lot of exotics and stuff that came through. So that's how
I got to drive a bunch of different types of Laborghinis and Ferraris and stuff like that. And I'm not going to say we didn't and I was young.
They might have got stretched out just a little bit when they went to the parking garage. You ever get a point where you like you're uncomfortable driving
those expensive cars. No, I'll tell you one of the coolest jobs I
had. I was I think I was sixteen, just turned seventeen, and
I worked for an auction house out in Chicago. They got a lot of
Laborghinis and stuff like that, and they it was an old airport where the auction was at, so the cars were way down in a hangar, and then where the auction house was at was way over here. So you had
about the length of a runaway that you had to run back to the auction house where the cars could be auction take them back to the hangar, and let's just say a lot of things got aired out in that length of the runway to the actual way you ran them through the auction They had to take them all the way back out to the hangers. People didn't hear y'all just
letting it go. You had to because because I mean anything, if it
was a Corvette, if it was a Laborghini, if it was a far he was a Porsche, I can tell you everybody aired him out. I
mean they just they did. I don't know. You had to hear us
coming. I didn't know, guys. I gotta get out of here.
I can't believe the show went by so fast. Make sure if you were
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We get out here and enjoy leading weekend. All right, guys, we're
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