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Forbidden Fruit: The Cool European Cars America Can’t Have (and Why)

Forbidden Fruit: The Cool European Cars America Can’t Have (and Why)

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Exploring the allure of European cars that remain elusive in the U.S., this episode dives into the reasons behind their absence, from stringent safety regulations to market dynamics. The host shares personal experiences from a recent trip to the UK, highlighting standout models like the Cupra Leon and Peugeot 3008, while discussing the bureaucratic hurdles and cultural preferences that keep these gems overseas. The episode also touches on how some European models exist in the U.S. under different names, revealing the complexities of automotive branding and market adaptation.

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automotive forbidden fruit

"So today, we are going to talk about the automotive forbidden fruit, the best European cars that have never made it across the pond, and the bureaucratic, political, and marketing bullshitery that keeps them out of our driveways."

'Automotive forbidden fruit' means cars that people really want but can't buy in their country. There are many reasons why these cars aren't sold, like laws or the company's choice.

Car

Cupra Leon

"...I spotted the most gorgeous car in the parking lot. It is called a Cupra Leon. It is low, it's wide, it's got copper accents..."

The Cupra Leon is a sporty car made by a brand called Cupra. It's designed to be fast and looks really cool, making it stand out from regular cars.

Car

Audi A3

"...rtier, more stylish cousin of the VW Golf and the Audi A3. So let me tell you a little bit about what Cupra..."

The Audi A3 is a small, fancy car that feels nice to drive and has a lot of cool features. It's a good choice for someone looking for a stylish and comfortable ride.

Brand

Cupra

"So let me tell you a little bit about what Cupra is. It started as Seat's performance division."

Cupra is a brand that makes sporty cars and started as a part of another brand called Seat. They create cars that are faster and more stylish than regular Seat cars.

Brand

Seat

"So Seat spelled S-E-A-T, but pronounced Seat, not seat. That is Volkswagen's Spanish brand."

Seat is a car company from Spain that makes different types of cars. They are known for being stylish and affordable.

Car

Hyundai Genesis

"...tandalone brand, similar to what Hyundai did with Genesis. You can get the little León in a variety of powe..."

The Hyundai Genesis is a nice, fancy car that offers a lot of comfort and features. It's a good option if you want something luxurious without paying the highest prices.

Car

SEAT León

"You can get the little León in a variety of powertrains, including standard gas engine, a turbo diesel, a mild hybrid, and a plug-in hybrid..."

The SEAT León is a small car that looks sporty and comes with different types of engines, including gas and hybrid options. It's designed for people who want a fun driving experience.

Term

turbo diesel

"...including standard gas engine, a turbo diesel, a mild hybrid, and a plug-in hybrid, with up to 300 horsepower."

A turbo diesel engine is a kind of engine that uses a turbocharger to make it more powerful and efficient. It helps the car use less fuel while still going fast.

Term

manual transmission

"And you can get it with a proper manual transmission."

A manual transmission is a kind of gear system in cars where the driver has to change gears by hand. It gives the driver more control over how the car drives.

Term

driver's car

"But it's sharp, and it's fun, and it's this perfect example of the kind of pure driver's car that Europe still builds."

A 'driver's car' is a type of car that is really fun to drive. It feels good on the road and gives you a sense of control and excitement while driving.

Car

Vauxhall Mokka GS Line

"So after drooling over the Cupra, just a few rows down was another eyecatcher, a little Vauxhall Mokka GS Line. This is a sharp little crossover."

The Vauxhall Mokka GS Line is a small SUV that looks good and is easy to drive. It's designed for city roads and has some fun colors and shapes that make it stand out.

Brand

Peugeot

"...was a Peugeot. Peugeot is a French brand that was in the US market for about 33 years, but they pulled out in 1991 due to poor sales..."

Peugeot is a car brand from France that used to sell cars in the United States. They stopped selling cars there in 1991 because they weren't selling well anymore.

Car

Peugeot 208

"...especially now, their cars are gorgeous. The little 208 hatchback, the 3008 SUV..."

The Peugeot 208 is a small car that's easy to drive and looks nice. It's popular in Europe because it's practical and stylish.

Car

Peugeot 3008

"...especially now, their cars are gorgeous. The little 208 hatchback, the 3008 SUV..."

The Peugeot 3008 is a small SUV that's designed to be stylish and comfortable. It's a popular choice for people looking for a practical vehicle with a modern look.

Term

crossover

"The one I really wanted to rent in the UK was the 4008. It's a small coupe style four door crossover that kind of looks like the Audi Sportback's French cousin."

A crossover is a vehicle that mixes the features of a car and an SUV. It usually has more space and a higher driving position, making it good for families.

Car

Peugeot 4008

"The one I really wanted to rent in the UK was the 4008. It's a small coupe style four door crossover that kind of looks like the Audi Sportback's French cousin."

The Peugeot 4008 is a small SUV that looks like a sporty car. It's designed to be practical for families but also has a stylish look that makes it stand out.

Car

Honda CR-V

"And then we go out and buy another boring Honda CR-V. No offense Honda."

The Honda CR-V is a type of vehicle called a crossover SUV, which is designed to be spacious and comfortable for everyday use.

Company

Stellantis

"But then, yeah, pandemic, the Stellantis merger. Now we got TeraFors and just kind of the general financial mess that Stellantis is in."

Stellantis is a big car company that owns many different car brands, like Jeep and Peugeot, after merging two companies together.

Brand

Skoda

"But then there was the little Skoda, that's the rental car that I did get, and to my"

Skoda is a car brand from the Czech Republic that makes cars that are usually good value and practical for everyday use.

Car

Volkswagen Tiguan

"So the Skodas share the same bones with the Volkswagen Golf and the Tiguan, but they're simpler. They're less German over-engineered."

The Volkswagen Tiguan is a small SUV that's good for families. It has a lot of space inside and is comfortable to drive.

Car

Volkswagen Golf

"...e Skodas share the same bones with the Volkswagen Golf and the Tiguan, but they're simpler."
Brand

DS Automobiles

"Finally, one of the brands that I really wish we had here is DS Automobiles. This is Citoyenne's luxury sub-brand."

DS Automobiles is a brand that makes luxury cars. It's part of Citroën, a well-known car company, and focuses on creating stylish and comfortable vehicles.

Term

DS

"But it's pronounced dais, which is very similar to the French word dais, which means goddess."

DS stands for 'Different Spirit' or 'Distinctive Series', which shows that the brand wants to be seen as unique and special. It sounds like the French word for 'goddess', which adds to its luxury appeal.

Term

savoir faire

"...but their creations, their savoir faire, which is French for know-how, but not in the practical know-how sense."

Savoir faire is a French phrase that means knowing how to do something well, especially in a skilled or artistic way.

Company

Volkswagen Group

"...large groups like Solantis and Volkswagen Group and they're doing that for the specific purpose of cutting costs and having these global platforms and economies of scale."

Volkswagen Group is a big car company that owns several brands, like Volkswagen and Audi. They make many different types of cars and are known all over the world.

Concept

global platforms

"...large groups like Solantis and Volkswagen Group and they're doing that for the specific purpose of cutting costs and having these global platforms and economies of scale. As I've talked about in some past podcasts, modern cars are built on these shared modular platforms or basically giant Lego sets."

Global platforms are like a base that many different cars can be built on. This helps car companies save money and make different types of cars more easily.

Concept

MQB platform

"So for example, Volkswagen's MQB platform supports everything from the little golf up to the Big Three Row Atlas."

The MQB platform is like a shared foundation for many different cars made by Volkswagen and its brands. It helps them build different models more easily and cheaply.

Car

Volkswagen Atlas

"So for example, Volkswagen's MQB platform supports everything from the little golf up to the Big Three Row Atlas."

The Volkswagen Atlas is a larger SUV that can fit a lot of people and their stuff. It's great for families who need extra space.

Car

Citroën C4

"It has the same bones as the Pujo 3008 and the Citoyenne C4."

The Citroën C4 is a small car that is comfortable to drive and has a unique design. It's practical for everyday use.

Brand

Vauxhall

"But it gets even more complicated than that because Vauxhall was previously owned by GM. They purchased it in the Opel brand from Germany back in 1925."

Vauxhall is a car brand from the UK that makes various types of vehicles. It's part of a larger group of car companies now.

Car

Chevrolet Trax

"...n 2012 was a Buick encore in disguise and a Chevy Trax just built in South Korea and sold in the UK. Yea..."

The Chevy Trax is a small SUV that's easy to drive and park. It's a good choice if you want a bit more space than a regular car but don't need something too big.

Company

PSA Group

"In 2021, PSA group merged with Chrysler Fiat to form Solantis, which now owns practically half the world's brands."

PSA Group was a company that made cars, and in 2021, it joined with another car company called Fiat Chrysler to create a new company called Stellantis. This new company owns many different car brands.

Car

Dodge Ram

"...el, Vauxhall, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, and Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram. Confused yet?"

The Dodge Ram is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and tow trailers. It's popular for people who need a tough vehicle for work or outdoor activities.

Car

Chevrolet Tahoe

"... a little hatchback. You put that next to a Chevy Tahoe and it looks like a lunchbox, just like my mini. ..."

The Chevy Tahoe is a big SUV that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's great for families or anyone who needs a strong vehicle to drive around or go on trips.

Car

Toyota Corolla

"But in 2006, Toyota decided to change the name of the hatchback version, to the Toyota Oris. But then in 2019, when they redesigned the Corolla and the hatchback version..."

The Toyota Corolla is a small car that many people trust because it's reliable and saves on gas. It's been around for a long time and is very popular.

Car

Ford Mustang

"...n around since the mid-60s, almost as long as the Mustang. But in 2006, Toyota decided to change the name o..."

The Ford Mustang is a classic American sports car that people love for its speed and cool looks. It's been around for a long time and is often seen as a symbol of fun driving.

Car

Toyota Matrix

"For the American market, we actually did have our own version of the Oris, just under yet another name, the Toyota Matrix. So that sporty little Toyota hatchback your neighbor had in the early 2000s."

The Toyota Matrix is a small car that looks like a hatchback. It was made by Toyota and is similar to the Corolla, but it had a different name and style that appealed to American buyers.

Car

Nissan Qashqai

"...o buy it used. Another good example is the Nissan Qashqai. This is one of Europe's best-selling small cross..."

The Nissan Qashqai is a small SUV that's great for city driving and family outings. It has a lot of room inside and is known for being safe and fuel-efficient.

Car

Nissan Rogue Sport

"We do have it here. We just call it the Rogue Sport. Because I guess Nissan figured out that American..."

The Nissan Rogue Sport is a small SUV that’s perfect for driving around town. It has a stylish look and enough space for everyday use.

Car

Mitsubishi Pajero

"...ce little car. Another interesting example is the Mitsubishi Pajero. This is one of the all-time great translation fa..."
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