Barry discusses his collection of turbochargers and superchargers from past projects, contemplating new builds to utilize these parts. He shares insights on modern versus old-school supercharger technology, highlighting the benefits of twin-screw superchargers for drivability and tuning. The conversation also touches on Brad Fanshawe's 1967 Chevelle restoration, blending vintage style with modern performance upgrades. The episode offers a deep dive into engine building, tuning, and the nostalgic appeal of classic muscle car modifications.
"you can see the memorabilia, but I've got to ask, there's a turbo sitting on the table behind you. There's two of them actually. What were the turbos from? Those were from the charger, the twin turbos, and those had to be upgraded to larger turbos, so since we had to take those off, because they were obsolete size-wise, they're just sitting in there."
A turbo is a part that helps a car's engine make more power by pushing extra air into it using the engine's exhaust. This makes the car faster and stronger.
A turbo, or turbocharger, is a device that forces more air into an engine's combustion chamber, increasing power and efficiency. It uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine that compresses the intake air.
"What were the turbos from? Those were from the charger, the twin turbos, and those had to be upgraded to..."
The Dodge Charger is a strong and fast car that people like to make even faster by adding special parts called turbos. These turbos help the car go quicker by pushing more air into the engine.
The Dodge Charger is a classic American muscle car known for its powerful engines and aggressive styling. The mention of twin turbos indicates a performance upgrade, as Chargers have been popular platforms for forced induction modifications to increase horsepower.
"Okay, but they're worn out, and so is the supercharger sitting over there, and I just got to figure out what I can slap these things on."
A supercharger helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air into it. It is powered by the engine itself, making the car faster.
A supercharger is a device that forces more air into an engine's combustion chamber, increasing power output. It is mechanically driven by the engine, typically via a belt connected to the crankshaft.
"But I mean, I've got a, even a 170 crate motor sitting over there, and it's like, throw it on that."
A crate motor is a complete engine that you can buy and put into your car without building it yourself. It's like getting a ready-made engine to make your car faster or newer.
A crate motor is a fully assembled engine that is shipped in a crate, ready to be installed in a vehicle. These engines are often used for engine swaps or performance upgrades.
"...the payment turns into something like a crate engine, or something along those lines, and then you come back and you go, I got this amazing crate engine, now I got to build something around this engine."
A crate engine is a complete engine that comes ready to put into a car. People use it when they want to replace an old engine or build a new car with a different engine.
A crate engine is a fully assembled engine shipped in a crate, ready to be installed in a vehicle. It is often used in engine swaps or custom builds to replace or upgrade the original engine.
"the partnership between myself and DSR has provided us with, you know, a DSR 1200 for the Coronet and a DSR 1200 for the M715 project."
The DSR 1200 is a ready-to-use powerful engine that people can put into old cars to make them faster and more reliable.
The DSR 1200 is a crate engine offered by DSR, typically a high-performance V8 engine designed for muscle car builds, providing modern power and reliability in classic vehicles.
"...s provided us with, you know, a DSR 1200 for the Coronet and a DSR 1200 for the M715 project. So I've got..."
Pontiac was a car company that made some fast and fun cars. The parts mentioned are special pieces used to work on or improve these cars or related vehicles.
Pontiac was a brand of General Motors known for performance-oriented vehicles like the GTO and Firebird. The mention of DSR 1200 likely refers to specific parts or equipment related to Pontiac models such as the Coronet or military vehicles like the M715.
"the partnership between myself and DSR has provided us with, you know, a DSR 1200 for the Coronet and a DSR 1200 for the M715 project."
The Dodge Coronet is an old American car known for being fast and strong, often used by car fans who like muscle cars.
The Dodge Coronet is a classic American muscle car produced in various forms from the 1940s through the 1970s, popular for its powerful V8 engines and performance potential.
"And I hear that you could put that supercharger on an LS motor, but, you know, what am I going to put a stack on the Trans-Am?"
The LS motor is a type of powerful engine made by Chevrolet that many people use to upgrade or fix up cars to make them faster.
The LS motor refers to the Chevrolet LS engine family, a series of modern V8 engines known for their performance, reliability, and popularity in engine swaps and builds.
The Pontiac Trans-Am is a fast and sporty car made by Pontiac, known for being cool and powerful in the past.
The Pontiac Trans-Am is a performance-oriented version of the Pontiac Firebird, popular in the 1970s and 1980s for its sporty styling and powerful V8 engines.
"Well, the Trans-Am, the Trans-Am is, is that an LS7?"
The LS7 is a big, powerful engine made by Chevrolet that makes a car go really fast. It's used in some sports cars and muscle cars.
The LS7 is a 7.0-liter naturally aspirated V8 engine produced by General Motors, known for its high performance and use in cars like the Chevrolet Corvette Z06. It is popular in muscle cars and performance builds due to its power and reliability.
"...n Shift and Scare. And he has, I think it's a 67 Chevelle. Now, it was in his storage facility in Arizona ..."
The Chevelle is an old, cool car that many people like because it's strong and looks great. The 1967 model is especially popular and often kept safe by car lovers.
The Chevrolet Chevelle, especially the 1967 model, is a classic muscle car prized for its powerful V8 engines and timeless design. It's often collected and restored by enthusiasts, making it a common feature in car storage and collection discussions.
"Now, it was in his storage facility in Arizona and he went and it's a project. It's like the body's on a body dolly and he's got the frame separate in the rear end."
A project car is a car that someone is fixing up or changing to make it better or to get it working again.
A project car is a vehicle that is being restored, repaired, or modified, often by an enthusiast. It usually requires significant work before it can be driven reliably or shown.
"So, and Brad, you know, keep in mind that like Brad's was a hotroader in the 80s."
A hotroader is a person who changes cars to make them faster or look cooler, usually old muscle cars.
A hotroader is someone who modifies cars, often classic or muscle cars, to improve their performance, style, or both. This culture is especially associated with American cars from the mid-20th century.
"And so when the before the pro touring movement, which all now we just call rest a mod or whatever, there was the sort of the pro street..."
Pro touring means upgrading old cars so they drive and stop better, kind of like new cars, but keeping their classic look.
Pro touring is a style of modifying classic cars to improve their handling, braking, and overall performance to modern standards, often making them suitable for spirited driving or track use.
"there was the sort of the pro street, which is almost like the drag race car for the street, right? Big, big tubs in the backs, pizza cutters in the front, skinny tires in the front."
Pro street means making cars that look like race cars but can still be driven on normal roads, especially built for going fast in a straight line.
Pro street is a style of car building that makes street-legal cars with drag racing features like wide rear tires and lightweight front ends, designed for high straight-line performance.
"... superchargers that you're talking about on your Hellcats and stuff, it makes most of the boost in the sup..."
The Challenger Hellcat is a very fast car that uses a special part called a supercharger to make the engine stronger. This helps the car go really fast and have a lot of power.
The Dodge Challenger Hellcat is a modern muscle car famous for its supercharged V8 engine producing extreme horsepower. The supercharger boosts engine power by forcing more air into the engine, making it one of the most powerful muscle cars available.
""...the twin screw superchargers that you're talking about on your Hellcats and stuff, it makes most of the boost in the supercharger housing...""
The Dodge Hellcat is a very fast car made by Dodge. It has a special supercharger that helps the engine make a lot of power and go really fast.
The Dodge Hellcat is a high-performance variant of Dodge muscle cars, such as the Charger and Challenger, equipped with a supercharged V8 engine. It is known for its powerful twin screw supercharger that delivers significant boost and horsepower.
"boost in the engine, and I'm just simplifying it, you need a very low compression, which means it runs terrible, you know, if you're seven and a half, eight and a half to one compression, it's got no real low end power, right?"
Compression ratio is how much the engine squeezes the air and fuel mixture before igniting it. Lower numbers mean less squeezing, which can make the engine less powerful at low speeds.
Compression ratio is the ratio of the maximum to minimum volume in the cylinder of an internal combustion engine. Lower compression ratios are often used in boosted engines to prevent knocking but can reduce low-end power.
"But what we've seen recently as well is that the past SEMA show, maybe past two SEMA shows, is companies like, I think Eaton is doing it, Whipple may be doing it..."
Whipple makes special parts called superchargers that help car engines get more air and make more power.
Whipple is a company specializing in twin-screw superchargers, which are forced induction devices that compress air to increase engine power.
"still have that intake noise. So that's the other part of an engine we often overlook is like when you take your stock car with the air box and the air baffles in it and you switch it out to like just a just a conical filter, just an open element filter or a cold air kit, whatever you want to call it. You often hear that intake noise, not just the exhaust noise."
Intake noise is the sound you hear when air is sucked into the engine. If you change parts that let air in, the sound can get louder or different.
Intake noise refers to the sound produced by air entering the engine through the intake system. Changes to the air intake, such as removing the stock air box or installing an open element filter, can increase this noise.
"So that's the other part of an engine we often overlook is like when you take your stock car with the air box and the air baffles in it and you switch it out to like just a just a conical filter,"
An air box is like a container that holds the filter for the air going into the engine. It helps make the engine quieter and works better.
The air box is a component of the intake system that houses the air filter and helps reduce intake noise while directing air smoothly into the engine.
"just an open element filter or a cold air kit, whatever you want to call it. You often hear that intake noise, not just the exhaust noise."
A cold air kit is a part that helps bring cooler air from outside the car into the engine. Cooler air helps the engine work better and can make a cool sound.
A cold air kit is an aftermarket intake system designed to bring cooler air from outside the engine bay into the engine, which can improve performance and produce a distinctive intake sound.
"to call it on that thing and have an engine that's more reliable, easier to drive around the street, fully fuel injected."
Fuel injection is a way to get gas into the engine so it runs better and uses fuel more efficiently than older systems.
Fuel injection is a system that delivers fuel directly into the engine's combustion chambers or intake manifold, improving efficiency, reliability, and performance compared to carburetors.
"Overall, your first bring a trailer listing. We worked on it together."
Bring a Trailer is a website where people can buy and sell special cars by bidding on them, kind of like an online auction.
Bring a Trailer is an online auction platform specializing in classic, collector, and enthusiast cars where users can bid on vehicles in a curated auction format.
"Um, as I said, back in the day, I'm a Barrett Jackson guy. I've never sold in a car."
Barrett-Jackson is a company that holds big car auctions where people buy and sell special cars in person.
Barrett-Jackson is a well-known auction company that hosts live collector car auctions, often featuring rare and classic vehicles with a large enthusiast following.
"you don't get your due time that you feel as though you deserve on a car, on an auction block, you get 30 seconds to three minutes, right?"
An auction block is the place where cars are shown to people who want to buy them by bidding. Sellers only get a short time to show their car before people decide how much to pay.
An auction block refers to the platform or stage where items, including cars, are presented for bidding during an auction. In car auctions, sellers have limited time to showcase their vehicle to potential buyers.
"...ly, maybe a 78 or a, I don't know what years the 930s were, but he just bought a 930 off of bring a tra..."
The 911 is a famous sports car that is very fast and fun to drive. The 930 is a special version with a turbo that makes it even quicker.
The Porsche 911, particularly the 930 model produced from 1975 to 1989, is a legendary sports car known for its turbocharged flat-six engine and distinctive design. The 930 is highly sought after by enthusiasts for its driving dynamics and historical significance.
""and we're looking at the reserve. We're, we're not quite at the reserve. And then we're having this conversation either on the phone or tax going,""
The reserve is the lowest price a seller wants when selling something at an auction. If no one offers that much, the item might not be sold.
In auctions, the reserve is the minimum price a seller is willing to accept for an item, such as a car. If bids don't reach this price, the item won't be sold unless the reserve is lifted.
"...ars to try. And I was like, they gave me a Gen 2 Camaro with an LS7 in it and an air ride suspension. The..."
The Camaro is a sporty car that people enjoy driving fast. This particular one has a special strong engine and a fancy suspension that can be adjusted to make the ride smoother or stiffer.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a well-known American muscle car, and the Gen 2 refers to the second generation produced from 1970 to 1981. An LS7 engine swap and air ride suspension are popular modifications that enhance performance and ride quality.
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How are you?
I'm good, nobody's broken in the garage, Prasley's not here.
It's a nice quiet day in Texas man, it's awesome.
You've been talking about getting the podcast studio in order, you've got the couch in there,
you can see the memorabilia, but I've got to ask, there's a turbo sitting on the table
behind you.
There's two of them actually.
What were the turbos from?
Those were from the charger, the twin turbos, and those had to be upgraded to larger turbos,
so since we had to take those off, because they were obsolete size-wise, they're just
sitting in there.
Okay, but they're worn out, and so is the supercharger sitting over there, and I just
got to figure out what I can slap these things on.
Because all those, you started working on that car pretty early, so none of those have
hardly any miles on them.
The supercharger, maybe a few more than the turbos, but the turbos, you guys built it,
tested it, and upgraded the turbos immediately, so you got some brand new turbos sitting there.
That's pretty cool, man.
I like the aesthetic of them.
If you look at the blades inside, they're all customized.
Yeah.
Okay.
Again, it's not a bad thing to have extra parts that you can't wait to draw on a vehicle.
Right, but then you walk into your office every day, and you stare at them, and you go,
man, I got to do something with these turbos, and it turns into a $200,000 project.
You're sitting there, and you're going, oh, I got $5,000 worth of turbos, $8,000 certain
turbos sitting in front of me, and now I'm going to have to spend $200,000 to put them
in something.
I mean, that's-
Supercharger, right?
I mean, be wonderful.
Hey, I'm not, I'm extremely lucky for my situation, right?
But I mean, I've got a, even a 170 crate motor sitting over there, and it's like, throw it
on that.
Well, the Supercharger that's already on that's bigger, right?
But it's like, now I'm trying to figure out if I can put it on the 2500 and the 392 crate
motor.
Okay.
So, what happens is, is often times you'll get like an offer from a company, like for
example, the dealer in Arizona, right?
Great dealer, I'm familiar with them, Chapman, because when I grew up in Arizona, I knew them.
Something comes along, you guys end up chatting, or it goes through the agent, and you go,
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down, let's do, let's do a commercial.
I'll fly out, we'll do some commercials, but somewhere in that conversation, the payment
turns into something like a crate engine, or something along those lines, and then you
come back and you go, I got this amazing crate engine, now I got to build something around
this engine.
So, what, like in that example with Chapman, was the plan from the beginning to get an
engine because you had an idea for a build, or did it just work out?
No, you just went out there and like, here's my fee, you know, and then you're like, how
else do that?
No question.
And, you know, to back up, that's why agents don't like to deal with me in the car world.
Right?
Like what's Barry's kind of it?
The pulley kit?
He gets a pulley kit.
He gets 10% of whatever the engine is.
But I'm not in existence to worry about what they care about, right?
So I mean, they work for me at the end of the day.
So no, I didn't have a specific plan because once you look at what that motor is, it has
to be really fricking special plan to use to actually put miles on that thing and take
it out of the crate because it looks so beautiful in there.
But you know, fortunately, the partnership, I don't want to ever say collaboration, but
the partnership between myself and DSR has provided us with, you know, a DSR 1200 for
the Coronet and a DSR 1200 for the M715 project.
So I've got two of those beautiful motors already going into two builds.
And like I said, I'm trying to find stuff here that I could throw superchargers and
turbos on, but, you know, I don't think I'll be doing it to the willies anytime soon.
And I hear that you could put that supercharger on an LS motor, but, you know, what am I going
to put a stack on the Trans-Am?
I mean, you know, so.
Right.
Well, the Trans-Am, the Trans-Am is, is that an LS7?
Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't need it, man.
It really doesn't need it.
But I mean, what a novelty, but, you know, you look at the, at the stack on that thing
and it's already protruding higher than it should, you know, the alignments off.
And so you kid me, that supercharger would be ridiculous.
Yeah.
Now, if it was a 671 sticking out of there, it might look kind of different.
You know, so, so we mentioned Brad Fanshawe a minute ago.
Brad is my co-host on Shift and Scare.
And he has, I think it's a 67 Chevelle.
Now, it was in his storage facility in Arizona and he went and it's a project.
It's like the body's on a body dolly and he's got the frame separate in the rear end.
And but the, the story behind that is that was his very first car when he was
like 16, 17, his, his dad is like, do you know, do you want to buy a car?
I got a line on the car.
It's a couple of years used.
You know, we got to go to another town and, and, you know, and he was thinking it
was going to be his dad's idea was like something cheap, safe, small, four cylinder,
whatever. And he's like, it's a 67 Chevelle.
And he's like, oh, that's awesome.
He's like, not just that.
He goes, it's a 396 big block Chevelle.
And, and I think he said he bought it for like 400 bucks or 480 bucks or something
like that back in the day.
And Brad's had it ever since.
So, and Brad, you know, keep in mind that like Brad's was a hotroader in the 80s.
He was the president of Boyd Cottington garage.
And so when the before the pro touring movement, which all now we just call
rest a mod or whatever, there was the sort of the pro street, which is almost
like the drag race car for the street, right?
Big, big tubs in the backs, pizza cutters in the front, skinny tires in the front.
And right, like the lawman, certainly like the lawman.
So he was talking about on that car doing, I don't know if he was going to do
a supercharger or just do like a high ram intake with the like the bug catcher
coming out of the hood, the big three hole bug catcher coming out of the hood.
And he said, one of the things he wanted to modify on the car was just even
though it was going to be sort of pro street and tubbed was to make it a little
bit more drivable, have, you know, vintage air AC system in it, have it fuel
injected, you know, it'll fire up and run.
And what I was telling him, because you just mentioned that type of supercharger
is that that roots type supercharger, a lot of the cars didn't really run that
well, because it makes boost in the engine, the twin screw superchargers
that you're talking about on your Hellcats and stuff, it makes most of the
boost in the supercharger housing and then it compresses into the engine.
So you can run a twin screw, like the modern day stuff that whipples
superchargers and all that on a 10, 10 and a half, 11 to one compression
engine, the roots type supercharger that the old school one, because it makes
boost in the engine, and I'm just simplifying it, you need a very low
compression, which means it runs terrible, you know, if you're seven and a half,
eight and a half to one compression, it's got no real low end power, right?
And it's just, you know, and it's, so it's really just kind of on the top
end, but I was explaining to him was a couple of years back, I went to
Nelson Racing Engines, I went to Tom Nelson's place and he had one of those
there and I was like, how do you get this thing to work?
And he said sort of two things, is one, he said, that three hole bug catcher,
he read does them completely, so it's got the three holes, but it actually,
the outside ones are fake and it uses a single throttle body in the middle.
And that changes his ability to tune it, it's much more refined.
He can really tune the fuel injection around that.
But what we've seen recently as well is that the past SEMA show, maybe past
two SEMA shows, is companies like, I think Eaton is doing it, Whipple
may be doing it, they're taking that, the modern twin screw technology and
putting it in an old school roots type blower housing.
So it has the benefits of a Whipple, but it has the look of the old school
supercharger and you can stack your carburetor or your EFI on top of it.
And what's the sound difference?
What's the what?
The sound difference?
You know, it depends.
That's where the nostalgic comes in.
Yeah, it does.
So it depends on how the gears are cut in the supercharger, but you will
still have that intake noise.
So that's the other part of an engine we often overlook is like when you take
your stock car with the air box and the air baffles in it and you switch it out
to like just a just a conical filter, just an open element filter or a cold
air kit, whatever you want to call it.
You often hear that intake noise, not just the exhaust noise.
So the intake noise in theory would still be there.
If you're standing next to the car and that thing is sticking out of the
hood and it's flopping open, you know, like a drag race car.
Yeah, you very much still get that that noise.
I mean, I would imagine side by side.
There's a few small differences, but you know, you have reliability comparatively
friggin worth it.
As long as it still had that that reminiscent note of the original.
Yeah, that I could be fantastic.
But you're right.
You you you still get that old old school look, have that blower come through the
hood, you can put whatever sort of air cleaner, bug catcher, whatever you want
to call it on that thing and have an engine that's more reliable, easier to
drive around the street, fully fuel injected.
Like it's a it's a pretty cool idea.
Now I I know Tom Nelson has figured it out and you'd have to spend a pretty
penny over there to get, you know, one of his engines.
But I would say now that these modern superchargers are coming out, there's
ways to to make this happen with a with a good tuner.
You you can.
Oh, I would have no problem.
You know, and then you can run you can run like a nine and a half to one to
maybe even up to 11, you know, to one compression.
And maybe I should put it on the on the Cobra.
Well, you know, a while back we talked about.
I don't know what project you were thinking at the time or just sort of brainstorming.
But you were like, I I'm thinking about a car with the old school supercharger
look like blower through the hood.
Or in that it's already be done.
Yeah. Yeah.
So there's some modern technology.
Honestly, some of these superchargers like I've just come out in the past few years.
I think Edelbrock had one maybe still does that uses like eating TVS internal screws.
I thought Whipple had one that came out like this past year or so.
I'd have to look them up.
But and listen, the guys you work with Mario and everybody, they all have
relationships with Whipple, you know, so much and Mario, I'm sure they would know.
Mario would probably be a good guy to build that engine
because he's so up to speed on the tuning of those things and just go.
This is what we're building.
I need you to like build and dyno test a crate engine, you know, with this type of
like you need to build this thing for it.
I'm sure he's already done the R&D for all of them.
Everything that's out right now, he works with Whipple.
I'm sure I mean, he's he's so far ahead of the curve right now.
He'd be great to have on the show just just for the knowledge of that.
So so Brad was thinking about that for as well.
So he brought he he dragged the car back, you know, from from Arizona,
the typical like debacle, you would think like it went pretty smoothly
because we make fun of every time he drives to Arizona with a trailer.
He comes back with a flat tire on his trailer.
So I don't know why like every time he's always pulled over, getting flat
tire, but this time it worked out and he had a couple of friends out there
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He's like, I wasn't expecting the workout because, you know, they had
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So this time he went out, he he rented like a U-Haul has like a toy trailer.
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And yeah, it worked out pretty good.
Just, you know, just strapped it down everywhere.
It's just an open trailer, right?
Yeah.
But just going the extra mile and just strapping it down instead of four straps.
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So if you do want to check it out, go to there.
Again, it's bioproteintech.com slash car cast.
Okay.
So you have a cat.
I don't have a cat, but I grew up with cats.
So we had cats growing up, but now we have two little dogs.
You've seen them.
They would, they're the ones that would be eating on your property.
Yeah, like most everything.
But I found this new treat for chubs, which is our cat, right?
And Wanda started giving it to him mistakenly every morning.
And so now he wakes us up every morning for this.
For the tree.
So I'd goo.
It's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen, but I'm not a cat.
So I really don't know.
I like to call it liquid baloney.
Okay.
Yeah.
You can't get any grosser than that.
It comes in like a tube that's about this long.
Really like a, like a, uh, those little popsicle things back in the day.
Yeah.
That you get it.
And you just, you just like squeeze it out.
And this cat literally it's like a dog in a faucet when he's trying to,
you know, get his first drink in a month.
Yeah.
He's out of this thing.
I've never seen an animal that's so driven by this mysterious,
I don't know what it is, man.
I'm just saying all you cat people need to go out and get it.
If you want your cat to do something, this stuff's gross.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
But I'm not surprised Wanda has found that.
Okay.
So the, the, the bring a trailer listing.
Actually, let's take a quick break and then let's talk about the bring a trailer listing.
We'll be right back.
All right.
Here we are.
We're back, um, the bring a trailer listing, the portion that you put up, uh, thanks to
everybody that participated and watched and commented and bid and it was fun to do.
What's your take on it?
Overall, your first bring a trailer listing.
We worked on it together.
Satisfied?
Happy with it?
Well, I mean, let's, let's be perfectly honest.
Um, as I said, back in the day, I'm a Barrett Jackson guy.
I've never sold in a car.
I've done a couple of personal sales, but I've never done anything other auction wise
other than Barrett Jackson.
And when, when bring a trailer first came out and I've said this, I was very skeptical about it,
right? And I never thought that I would take part in it.
And then I started watching it over the past year or two years.
And then we've had, you know, representatives bring a trailer on the podcast.
And I, I wanted to be as objective as humanly possible.
And you, as a bring a trailer alumni, uh, have given me nothing but positive feedback
about your experiences.
And I've got to say, man, I was absolutely blown away by the experience.
First and foremost, you know, unless you're, uh, um,
you know, the top 0.1%, you don't get your due time that you feel as though
you deserve on a car, on an auction block, you get 30 seconds to three minutes, right?
And to compare that, and then you look at, look at commission, right?
Right. Visibility, great.
You got the television, you're assured that great bidders are going to be there.
But bring a trailer is so much different in every aspect.
And I think the one thing that, that I didn't, I don't want to say surprised me,
but I appreciate more than anything is the one thing that kind of drew me to it was the comment
section. Yeah.
Right. And, and I'm not talking about the good comments, the bad comment.
I'm talking about the people are fully enthralled and they're involved in these auctions.
And I learned a lot about my car by the comments people would throw out,
because these guys are Porsche experts.
I am by far not a, I am not a Porsche expert by any stretch.
I am comparatively, uh, compared to the beginning of this process, but
I learned a lot and, and, you know, yeah, there's going to be snarky dudes on there
making comments every once in a while, but I mean, they get kind of weeded out.
Right. Yeah, they do.
And it's, it's, it's a really fun experience.
I, I'm, I'm an, I'm a control freak, quite obviously.
Anybody who knows me knows that about me.
So this, I had no control over.
Not only did what was I not responding to people.
I had you doing it, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
I couldn't have done this without you.
First and foremost, right?
It was my pleasure, but thank you.
That forms great, but you're a pro and you've done it many a time.
And I went headlong into it, fully trusting you and your ability to
portray the car as it should have been portrayed.
Thank you.
You did a hell of a job.
Bring a trailer, did a hell of a job.
A celebrity's car.
At the end of the day, the celebrity's not going to drive the car if the car is not worthy
of what it is, right?
The, the, the, the laurels are on the car, not the owner.
And that's the purity of bring a trailer.
Yeah.
I believe, right?
Now you can see a celebrity's car go on there, but if it's a piece of shit,
then people aren't going to pay for the name.
They're not.
I had a great experience.
I really did.
It's terrifying as we spoke off air, prepping a car to be transferred to somebody else because
the clock's like taken between now and the time that I have to hand this thing over.
And I want it as perfect as possible.
Yeah.
You know, I don't want any, Jesus Christ, the day, the day the auction stopped,
I still had orders of a couple little trim pieces that I was going to not replace, but
mount because I had found that they were missing in the rear in, you know, in the back seat,
seat belt cover, something like that.
Something that people would go, Oh, well, you know, this guy just paid money for the car.
I don't care.
And let him do it.
You know, for me, I don't work like that.
So it was a great experience.
It really was.
Did I get what I wanted for the car?
Sure.
I mean, truthfully, you never know if there's two people that want to fight for it, then,
you know, you're going to get more than you normally would.
But I think it was a great experience.
I, you know, you always, we had a minimum.
We had a reserve on it.
Yeah, I knew the reserve was very.
It was a more than fair reserve.
It was more than fair, you know.
And I mean, the, the, the bids kept coming up, going up.
And it was, it was a great experience.
I'm very appreciative of the guy who, who purchased it because, you know, the guy's
guy, I think he, I don't know what year it is exactly, maybe a 78 or a, I don't know what
years the 930s were, but he just bought a 930 off of bring a trailer.
And he's got a couple other courses.
And as you said, the guys probably got over a hundred cars.
And I truly believe that this is a great home for this vehicle.
And it's someone who will appreciate it a little bit more than I did,
because they'll, they'll give more time to it.
He's, he's got the, he's got the new, I'm sorry, not the new.
He's got, I think an original portion, nine, five, nine, Rothman's portion to car.
And this guy's coming to my garage.
So he's, you know, um, yeah.
So he's got, uh, I don't know if he has it or he's looking to buy it at the Amelia,
but something's coming up on that car that he was texting me about.
So, um, I, so I will say this, I, I thought it was, it was a fun auction and it was a
cool car. So, and it's going to go to a really, really good home in talking with the guy that
bought it, the couple that bought it, they're really going to have fun with it and enjoy it.
And, and thank you for the kind words about the auction.
I will say this is yes, your attention to detail.
I'll, we'll call it that was, was, was perfect for this auction.
You were super attentive.
You provided all of the photos, the videos that we needed, the things to make the auction
successful, which isn't normally the case.
You really have to, you know, have a good car, a clean car.
You got to get photos underneath the car.
And when it is a celebrity car, you have to be in a video to present your story,
tell your story, why you got it, why you're selling it.
It's like walking on the football field with the name on the back of your jersey, right?
This will forever be Goldberg's, you know, nine, nine, 11 turbo.
And I hold myself in extremely high standards and everything that represents me should be
held in the same high standards.
That's just how I work.
Unfortunately, not a lot of people on the planet are like that anymore.
But there are a shitload of car guys that are still like that.
A majority of us are.
And that's why this whole click of the car guys is such a fun deal because
everybody can express themselves in, in their own way.
And everyone has levels of, of OCD and it's very comical to watch it.
And I'm honest to God, I probably spent a hundred hours under that car.
Easy.
The last, you know, three or four weeks, just attention to detail, you know.
And I'm telling you, I did things that he'll never see.
And it doesn't bother me because I know that I did it.
And so there's my, there's my gratification, my satisfaction, right?
True.
His, his impression of the car means a lot to me.
But at the end of the day, if I hold it to my standards, everyone else will be happy.
Yeah.
I, we were talking about this before is I get a little of anxiety when I sell something,
a car, a car parts, gym equipment, like whatever I've just got that I'm selling.
Because I want the person to be happy with what they're buying.
You know, I'm not just looking for the five star review.
Like I, I, I don't mind the follow up and somebody going, Hey, by the way,
I put the stuff together or I drove the car and it's fantastic.
You know, great job.
It's everything that you said.
I want you to like it.
I would rather you just follow up with me and go.
I like it.
Or follow up.
Like I sold something and somebody said, you know, you know, I'm missing a part.
It's not on you.
But if you have it, let me know.
If not, I'll just reach out to the manufacturer, see if I can get something done.
That's the nature of buying something used.
And I went through back dug through boxes.
All the stuff found what they were looking for.
I'm like, no problem.
Here you go.
As a matter of fact, you're right around the corner.
I'll just drop it off.
And, and to be fair, when I got there, that guy said, also I found something
that wasn't included in the purchase.
So I'm giving it back to you.
Right.
And I said, well, thank you.
Thank you for doing that.
I appreciate that.
So I, I appreciate that.
That level of respect in a transaction like that is not always the case.
It's more the case when you're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars for a car.
But if you're selling, you know, $200 piece of, you know, car parts,
gym equipment or whatever, I respect that as well.
So the auction went well.
I'm glad everybody participated.
You did a great job on supplying all the materials and selling a really cool car.
And I think the number was right.
It's exactly kind of where we hope we had a, we had a high number and a low number of,
you know, we needed to be.
And I think we're just exactly where it was.
So I'm happy with it.
And I'm, in this particular case, I'm, I'm happy with the way it went down because
I've sat there with, with other people, you know, and we're looking at the auction.
And it's the timer is getting reset.
Like it's, you know, the auction has ended and resets the timer every, every two minutes.
So you can't, you can't beat the timer.
It's not like old school eBay where you're sitting there and like three, two, one,
hit the buy button, whoever gets it gets it.
It resets.
So you can't like pull the rug out from somebody.
And yeah, you know, so I've been there with other sellers where I was selling something
and we're looking at the reserve.
We're, we're not quite at the reserve.
And then we're having this conversation either on the phone or tax going,
I don't know if it's going to make it.
What do you want to do?
Should we lift the reserve?
It's going to sell or is it not going to sell?
And if it doesn't sell, what does that mean?
Are you sort of ruining the market for your car for a little while?
And like, like with any auction, it's like, you bring something to Barrett Jackson.
Now Barrett Jackson is mostly no reserve now, but if you bring something to, like,
MECOM and it's a reserve and it doesn't sell, you, you're kind of taking that thing off the
market for a year unless there's some negotiation to be had.
So this particular auction, it, it, it climbed, it climbed very quickly on the first day,
not, not necessarily to the reserve, but it climbed, it climbed quickly.
But then it, it got to a number, it got to a sellable number,
you know, hours before the auction ended.
So there was just sort of this sigh of relief going, it's going to sell,
we met the reserve, we're good to go.
Now we'd like to see it go a little more, you know, like we had a low number.
We would have been okay with the low number.
We wouldn't have been doing cartwheels about it, but we were okay with that number.
And then, you know, if we get a few people to rally, you know, I, I took some phone calls,
got some emails, responded to people, had a good couple of good conversations,
which I always enjoy, by the way, because people are going,
ah, I'm thinking about this car and this is what I had.
And you just, it ends up being a 30 minute conversation just about cars and the person.
And I like it, it's fun.
So it was nice to get, to be honest with you, to get to the reserve number
before, you know, a few hours before.
And then if you get a few extra bids, it's a little bit of icing on the cake.
So it was, it was good.
So we didn't have to pull our hair out.
Well, for me, yeah, but, you know, in all honesty, I didn't,
we thought the timing of the end of the auction was a little different.
So we got two hours from us and I'm happy for that because I would have probably
sat there for two hours freaking out.
In, in all truth, I did not.
I saw the, the, the one good bid in the beginning.
Yeah.
I didn't watch it.
Wanda would come in and ask me daily, how is it?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Because I put myself through that.
Out of sight, out of mind, man.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not stressed in my life.
I had, I had confidence, but, you know, you always worry about it.
But yeah, I just, it was a different.
I, I, I mean, obviously I was watching it because I was, I was looking at the comments
and being able to respond and add to the comments.
So, but yes, like when we go to, you know, when we go to Barrett, you sold your cars at Barrett,
once the cars loaded up on the truck and they're, they're on their way to Barrett, like
we don't think about it until you're on the auction block going, this is my car, you should
buy it.
And then three minutes later, two and a half minutes later, you're up in the skybox and
we're having a drink because it's done.
It's over.
There's nothing you can do about it.
It's done, you know.
So anyway, it's just kind of a, kind of interesting.
All right.
One last thing I just want to talk about before we, we wrap up today.
Um, you were talking about BMX bikes.
You have a BMX bike and, and there's a story behind the bike, but this is interesting because
this has come up several times.
Oh, in the past several months, because again, I just coincidence, Brad Fanshawe was like
the president or the vice president or something of the AMA back in the day.
Like he was the BMX guy.
He was a collector and he just curated a BMX exhibit at like a museum in Nebraska,
where he's originally from.
Now, this is kind of interesting is one of the biggest collectors that we know is Steve
Strope from Pure Vision Design.
Steve Strope has a huge collection of, of bikes that he's restored and he's meticulous about it.
So when Brad and, because Brad and Steve have worked together on many times, Brad's made
bond speed wheels for, for a lot of the Steve Strope cars over the years.
And they go back.
So when I was talking to Steve at SEMA and I was like, you're a BMX guy too.
And I know you've got bikes there.
I've been by your shop years ago and there was a few bikes and he's like, yeah, the collection's
huge and it made sense.
So when, when Brad was curating this museum and borrowing bikes, a lot of the stuff that's
on display is Strope's collection, right?
So in our car world of, of, of friends, Brad and Steve Strope are both huge BMX guys.
So, and I know you've, you've,
But again, what I said, if I, if that BMX bike wasn't here, if I didn't have that be,
that BMX bike started everything behind me, everything, that, everything, that, that was,
that was my car as a kid, right?
So, so this is your childhood bike.
This is my childhood bike.
I had back.
And this is the first thing you were modifying and fixing and tooling on as a mode of transportation,
right?
So, and then I approached you and I'm like, I got this project and I don't know what to do
because like a car, what do you restore?
What don't you restore?
What do you keep original?
What do you, do you not refinish?
So I, I can blow this thing apart in a matter of an hour, right?
So I need to have Strope or Fanshawe on this show next week.
Give him me some fricking direction so I don't ruin it, please.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, we should have Brad on it.
I'm sure he'll love to do it.
I'm going to be doing a podcast with him in a little bit right after this.
So I'll, I'll mention it to him as well.
So all you guys girls with your BMX bikes and you want to know what to do with them,
tune in next week.
So here's the thing is, is it kind of like die it off for a while and now the collectability
is coming up and there's, I forgot the name of the event, but there's a, there's a BMX bike,
like track and event that goes on out here.
It's like, it's like the Monterey car week, right?
Of, of, or the, you know, I don't have an auction, so I don't want to say it's the
Barry Jackson event, but it's like in Temecula and, and they have the course out there.
And they, because of the age group of some of the vintage bikes, they do, they do a,
let's just say they do an older race group and ambulance is waiting for the finisher.
Brad, Brad went out there and he, he went out this past year and he didn't race and he went
out the year before and he did race and the old school stuff, the old school gear, he was out there
and I just remember when we came back, we did the podcast, he's like, wow, my knees,
my knees were not prepared, were not prepared for that.
But he had a great time doing it and all the guys, he knows all the names, Bob Harlow and all
the names from back in the day, these are the guys were building bikes and racing bikes and
running teams and he's, he's doing, he's doing stuff with all of those guys. He might even be
doing a BMX podcast, like a seasonal podcast right now, bringing back, interviewing those guys.
Oh, that doesn't surprise me. That's cool. I mean, it's sickly, everything else, right?
You know, for me, my introduction to the Oakley brand, if people, you'll remember this, but for
younger people, Oakley started off making handle grips for BMX bikes before they got into
the sunglasses and everything, the clothing brand, the apparel line, the monster that they are now.
We had Oakley grips on our bikes. Right? And then when my younger brother came into our lives,
there was an era of, like a scooter, you know, like a, like a push scooter, not the,
not like the Uber scooters or the Lyme scooters that are automated. Like
it was, you know, steel frame, it had a board on it and it had like bicycle handlebars
and stuff on it. But that was the new thing to like do tricks on and spin them around and jump
stuff and all kinds of stuff with it with the scooter. So we had a couple of those as well.
And you kind of modify it the same way. You can get it with pegs or whatever. And you can,
I forgot the device was, you know what I'm talking about? It's this collar that goes around the neck
that allows you to, when you pull your brake, it pulls the collar up and then pulls the bottom,
but it has a bearing in the middle. So you can spin your handlebars all the way around
or the scooter, you can spin it all the way around and the, the brake cables don't bind, right? It,
it's, it's the brake cables attached to the top of this collar and the bottom of this collar,
and there's a bearing in the middle, right? Yeah. So I remember, I remember that. I remember like,
as a kid, like buying it and installing it and putting it on and doing the cables and
spinning it around and doing all that stuff on the, on the door to it, man.
Yeah. And it's going to be a hell of a lot easier than any other project that I've been doing in
the last six. Yeah. Now I've got e-bikes, which I like riding, you know, I ride it like a normal
bike when I'm just trying to like get some exercise in and I don't want to go for run because my
knees hurt. I do run a lot, but I can't do it all the time like I used to. So I, I'll ride out on,
you know, I'll pedal the 65 pound bike out. And then on the way back, if I need to hit the motor
and like Tammy and I will go, we'll, we'll go for a long bike ride. And then on the way back,
we'll like, we'll stop and eat some lunch. And then, and then I just ride it like a motorcycle
for the last couple of miles home. Like you'll bike 10 miles out and, you know, maybe like
six miles back. And then you're like, okay, we're going to stop and get a beer and a burger. And
then I'm like, and then I'm just going to sit on this bike and I'm going to use electric scooter.
Right. And it makes it kind of fun. But the biggest difference is
those BMX bikes and even just like the 10 speeds and all the road bikes, like we have one of those
as well, it was this, these e-bikes are 65 pounds. You know, so when I brought one of the Ford
e-bikes to SEMA when I brought my electric truck, right? It was a theme, electric truck, electric
e-bike. It's a Ford bike, Ford licensed bike. But afterward, because we hadn't mounted up in the
bed of the truck. And then I'm like, yeah, it looked cool at SEMA. It was up there and it was
all mounted. But I was like, what a pain in the ass. The bike is, is heavy. It's awkward. You're
trying to pick it up. So after that, I reached out to Yakima, I believe, and they make the bike
rack that goes into the trailer hitch of the truck. And the first time I did it, it was a little
nerdy. So it holds two bikes, but the bikes are 65, 68 pounds each. So it's almost 140 pounds.
And it's just in the hitch outlet. Now, obviously that could hold weight, but when you're seeing it
in your, in your mirror and it's kind of bouncing around and you're like, God, I hope these damn
things hold. So it's fine. I just wasn't used to it. The first time I did it, I put the bikes in there.
It's a beefy rack, but I needed like a real rack built for e-bikes now to move those things around.
So anyway, going back to the BMX bike, weighs nothing. It's tiny. You look at it and you go,
how the hell did I ever fit on this as a kid? It was just like, it's, it's a, it's crazy to see
some of that stuff now and, and think like, this is what I used to live on for years as a, as a kid.
You know, all right.
A lot of memories, man. That's cool.
Yeah. It's, it's cool that you still have that. You know, you still have that, that original bike.
I don't know where any of my stuff went, but that's all right.
My brothers who still lived in Tulsa had the bike and I'd say
six years ago, he reached out and, and got it delivered to me. So for him, I'll be forever
indebted. It's, it's really your cool piece of my job.
Yeah. So then you had to like put it in storage for a while while you were building the garage,
like everything else. And then. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was with cars. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, now it's
good. Now you're going to get it set up. So I'm going to take it down and do a little work on it.
I'm not riding it. I can tell you that.
It's going to be fun. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, I'm going to do it just like a car.
Yeah. All right. So I'll reach out to Brad. Maybe we'll get him on next week.
We'll talk a little bit of BMX shop and I'm sure he'll have a great time.
Have him tell us about a Chevelle too, because he's having a good time with that.
He's, he's, he did this thing that, like we do it once he got it all loaded up and, and
onto the trailer. Right. And that process was two days of just like going through storage and
digging stuff up. Then he's got a six hour, seven hour drive home to start thinking about the project.
Right. You're just like alone in the car and you're going, well, you know, I saw this and I saw that
and now I'm remembering it and how I did it back in the day and, you know, what color it should be
and, and just like all this stuff. So now I like to pick his brain. Like what are you going to do?
So the one thing I brought up to him that he didn't think about was he's like, yeah,
I'm just going to do it old school, load of the ground, coilovers. And I said,
look, I, when, when you were doing these cars back in the day, the issue was driveability.
Like they're uncomfortable. They're loud. They're bumpy. There's no air in them,
but you're going to do air. You're going to do fuel injection. I said, where we've gone
with the technology of air ride, like ride tech, ride, air ride suspension. I said,
don't discount that for the type of car you're trying to build.
That's a really good option because you can get it low. You can put it on the ground when you
want to, but when you want to drive it around, think of all the crazy super cars we've driven,
the press cars and stuff. Without that front end, like axle lift on the front,
like they're so crazy to try to drive speed bumps and driveways and parking lots and,
you know, especially in LA, all the roads are terrible. I said, if you do an air ride,
I did a racing event. I did the Spectre 341 challenge in the mountains,
and they, they gave me a couple of different cars to try. And I was like, they gave me
a Gen 2 Camaro with an LS7 in it and an air ride suspension. The difference is, is now, like,
it's got tunable shocks. It's got good suspension. It's got SLA, you know, like, and, and the airbag
is basically the spring in that regard, but they tune the shocks around it. So the car
can definitely raise or lower and, and, and now you don't have to think about it. There's presets
and there's ride height adjusters so you can get in the vehicle and it'll automatically go to its
driving ride height and then you can hit a preset and it'll go down to its sitting ride height or
like driveway, like speed bump ride height, like it's all kind of preset. You don't have to dial
in each corner separately. Like it's so much better now that, that it might be what he needs to do.
Even if he, what he could do is, if he wanted to, he could just do the front and go, listen,
I just need to raise the front to get in and out, right? And then in the back could be like a four
length with the coil overs. I don't know how much drag racing he's going to do, but, you know,
but that's the look you want. So anyway, some thoughts there, but yeah, I'm down for that air
ride. I'm down for air ride. Yeah, I need a chance. All right, buddy, what's what else is
going on? What's on your list for the week? I saw you driving the Cobra. Oh yeah. Oh God,
that car is so much fun. You know, and that's the next thing we got to drop the rear end or the
yeah, the rear carriage out of that thing. And it'll be good. That's the one thing that we really
didn't dive into. You know, the Jag rear end was kind of, or Jag rear suspension, the whole
carriage was a little overwhelming to me, but now it'll be fun. I think it's six to eight bolts.
We'll drop that damn thing out, put it on a table, but I pull the gears out, put these 456
gears in there and put a wheelie bar on the damn car and the freaking go out and light some tires
up. But I drove it. I put probably a hundred miles on it over the weekend. Yeah. And now you
got a little bit of a break in the weather to get some nice weather. You can go out there and
yeah, it's been one in the car. The car is, you know, so far so good, man. So it's good,
right? So you're starting to dial it in the suspension a little bit. The carb, is it good
or does it need a little more tuning on the car? It's great for right now. Like I said, we changed
the MSD box out that that helped us out a little bit. We changed the rev limiter to
8,000. Yeah. The buzzer keeps coming on. So throttle doesn't stick, gauges work,
like as you're shaking it all down, everything's good. It's like butter. It's really surprising.
And, you know, the more miles I put on it, the better the thing breaks in and it's really
feeling like it's hugging the road. Well, it's, I mean, it's steering, it's cornering and it's
it's idling better than it ever has. Yeah. The things that we did to it, I'm ecstatic about
the decisions we made. I'm getting nothing but great feedback from people seeing the car. And
I mean, if you want to drive around and have people freaking stare at you, you know,
be 275 driving a short wheel based over with the NASCAR motor in it. But it, yeah, I'm really,
really happy with what we did. It's never finished. I got to do some interior work on it, but
it's wonderful, man. It's doing everything that I've wanted it to do and it's become the car that
I've always wanted it to be because I'm not intimidated by taking it out now because it's
safer. It's not safe, but it's safer. So, you know, I'm very happy with where it is. Awesome.
All right. Well, I hear a fire alarm going off in the building, so I'm going to go ahead and
wrap things up. Not that I'm worried about a firearm, just you could probably hear it and
it's going to get annoying. So, all right, guys, thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next
week. And until then, keep the air and the spare and the bag and the wheel. Boom.
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