Bill Goldberg and DeAndre trade garage stories and build plans, starting with a cautionary tale: race fuel sitting for years can go bad without the right detergents/stabilizers, wrecking drivability in Goldberg’s Cobra and forcing him to dilute, idle, and drive it out. They then geek out on Goldberg’s 1970 Trans Am track car—built from a mix of top shops, powered by an LS7, and nearly ruined by a simple panhard bar install oversight. The conversation expands to a supercharged farm-truck-style project (Whipple + manual swap) and ends with Porsche event/value talk and upcoming racing weekends.
"It doesn't have the detergents and stuff in it. It doesn't have the stabilizers, the detergents, doesn't have any of that stuff that we get"
Detergents are additives in gas that help keep the engine clean. Without them, the engine can get gunkier over time, which can hurt how it runs.
Fuel detergents are additive chemicals that help keep injectors, carburetors, and intake passages cleaner by reducing deposit buildup. If a fuel lacks detergents, the engine can foul faster—especially in engines that see varied driving or long idle/storage periods.
"It doesn't have the stabilizers, the detergents, doesn't have any of that stuff that we get"
Fuel stabilizers are chemicals that help keep gasoline from going bad when it sits. Without them, the fuel can turn into sticky deposits and make the car run badly later.
Fuel stabilizers are additives designed to slow down fuel degradation during storage. Without stabilizers, gasoline can oxidize and form varnish/gum that causes hard starting, rough running, or fuel-system deposits after sitting.
"I poured some fricking race fuel in the Cobra, and man, it did not like it, like, by no means. And it only sat there for probably, I don't know, two years?"
Race fuel is a special kind of gasoline made for racing. It can be formulated differently than normal gas, so a street car might run poorly on it or not behave the same over time.
Race fuel is a higher-performance gasoline blend intended for motorsport use. It often has different additive packages and sometimes different volatility/energy characteristics than regular pump fuel, which can affect starting, idle quality, and long-term storage behavior.
"I remember years ago, there was a big change where Costco was really getting into the fuel thing and building out more gas stations, but their fuel was crap."
Costco is discussed as expanding into fuel retail by building more gas stations. The speaker’s anecdote suggests Costco’s early fuel quality was inconsistent, highlighting that “same pump” gasoline can still differ by supplier and additive package.
"And I put it in a 65 Mustang and it ran like shit. And then at some point over the years, you know, this could be 20 years ago, I can't recall exactly."
They put a certain gas into a 1965 Ford Mustang and the car ran badly. It’s an example of how different gasoline blends can change how an older car behaves.
The speaker mentions putting Costco fuel into a 1965 Ford Mustang and says it ran poorly. This is a real-world example of how fuel formulation (including additives) can affect drivability, even in older carbureted or early fuel-system designs.
"Like we need to be, you know, the right tier fuel compete with everybody else... But yeah, it comes down to and light, your racing fuel, like light, heat, how you store it..."
Racing fuel is special gas made for performance engines. It’s meant to burn more reliably when the engine is hot and working hard, so it doesn’t “knock” or lose power.
Racing fuel is a higher-performance gasoline blend formulated for motorsport use. It’s typically designed to resist knock, maintain consistent performance under heat, and tolerate storage/handling conditions better than some pump fuels.
"And I mean, that carburetor doesn't like it and it throws so much futile in there that it's like a rush of really shitty whiskey or something."
A carburetor is the part that mixes fuel with air for the engine. If the fuel isn’t right, it can make the engine run rough or spit out bad combustion.
A carburetor mixes air and fuel mechanically before it enters the engine. If the fuel blend is off (for example, from contamination or degraded fuel), carburetors can run poorly—leading to roughness, misfire, or heavy exhaust.
"it was staged out front of SEMA. You and I were out there. And then you had a little accident with this little, yeah, I was at El Toro doing Optima"
SEMA is a huge car show focused on aftermarket parts and custom builds. If a car is staged around SEMA, it’s usually because it’s a big deal to the performance community.
SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association) is the major U.S. trade show for aftermarket parts and custom vehicles. Cars staged in front of SEMA are usually there to attract attention from builders, vendors, and media.
"And so we were going to spacer, right? Because of the width of the wheel on one side. And we were going to spacer on the other side, you know, which you don't want to be doing that."
A wheel spacer is a thickness added between the wheel and hub to change wheel offset and track width. While it can correct fitment or stance, it can also create new issues (like stress on bearings/bolts) if used to mask a deeper alignment or suspension problem.
"You could just clean it up and have a display engine or, or even paint it before you rebuild it and just have a pretty cool display engine on it."
A “display engine” is an engine that’s kept mainly to look cool, not necessarily to drive the car. People clean it up and make it look nice for showing off.
A “display engine” is an engine kept primarily for visual presentation rather than daily operation—often cleaned, painted, and assembled to look correct. This changes the goal from performance reliability to appearance, authenticity, and presentation in a garage or show setting.
"There's a few things, you know, maybe change the valve covers if they're rusted or a little bit. Cause I saw a little bit of rust, I think in the photo."
Valve covers are the top covers on an engine that help keep oil inside. If they’re rusty, swapping or cleaning them can make the engine look a lot nicer.
Valve covers are the upper housings on an engine that protect the top of the cylinder head and keep oil in. They’re also a common cosmetic and restoration item because rust or damage is visible and can affect how the engine looks during a display build.
"I mean, I'd love to make it completely period correct looking right now and have it as a, you know, a placard in the middle of the fricking garage."
“Period correct” means you try to make it look the way it would have back when it was new. It’s more about the right look and details than adding modern stuff.
“Period correct” means making a car or engine look like it did during its original era—using the right appearance, finishes, and often parts. In restorations, it’s about authenticity rather than modern upgrades, especially for show or track-car aesthetics.
"I mean, I've got, you know, the 170 engine in a crate. You can't see it. Right. And so it'd be nice to have this as a display."
A crate engine is an engine you can buy and install without building it from scratch. It comes packaged like a kit, so it’s easier to get running again.
A crate engine is an engine sold pre-assembled (or remanufactured) and shipped ready for installation. Enthusiasts use them to simplify sourcing parts and reduce downtime, and they’re often discussed in the context of restoration or building a “display” setup.
"...am I going to rebuild it and we're going to port the heads? What are we going to do?"
Porting the heads is when a shop reshapes the inside openings in the engine’s head. The goal is to help air and fuel move through more easily so the engine can make more power.
“Porting the heads” means reshaping the inside passages of an engine’s cylinder heads to improve airflow. Better airflow can increase power, especially on performance builds where the engine is being rebuilt or tuned.
"That usually requires some machine work too. You, you know, so you probably have that sent out, but."
Machine work is when a machine shop uses precision tools to make engine parts fit correctly again. It’s often needed after tearing an engine down so everything seals and runs right.
Machine work is precision machining done by a shop to restore or prepare engine components to correct tolerances. For example, it can include boring/honing cylinders, resurfacing mating surfaces, and checking alignment.
"But this is the one that has like the, the bedliner all over it. You know, so it's, it's meant to, to be thrashed a little bit more."
A bedliner is a protective layer inside the truck bed. It helps keep the bed from getting damaged when you haul stuff or use the truck rough.
A bedliner is a protective coating or insert installed in a pickup’s cargo bed to prevent dents, scratches, and corrosion. It’s commonly used when the truck is expected to be used hard.
"you know, it's PPF and it's ceramic coated and it's, you know, like there's only so far you can take it."
PPF is a clear protective film that you put on the paint. It helps protect the truck from small damage like rock chips and light scratches.
PPF (paint protection film) is a clear protective layer applied to a vehicle’s paint to help resist rock chips, scratches, and minor abrasions. Enthusiasts often use it on daily drivers or expensive paint jobs to preserve appearance.
"When I bought this truck originally, it was a show truck. I swear to you, it was absolute."
A “show truck” is basically a truck that’s meant to look great, like for events or photos. Later, they used it for something rougher where looks mattered less.
A “show truck” is a vehicle built or maintained to look impressive—often with cosmetic details, clean presentation, and sometimes attention to fit/finish. The speaker contrasts that original show-focused setup with later destruction and use as a track/production prop.
"...you're not worried about like, oh, that I just cave in like an original door piece because we've done body panels on the car. We're not too worried about the fitment of things..."
Body panels are the exterior sheet-metal or composite parts that form the car’s outer surfaces (doors, fenders, quarter panels, etc.). In a track-focused build, replacing body panels is often part of the normal repair cycle after impacts.
"...you got to do a couple of the weak links on it."
“Weak links” are the parts that can’t handle the extra stress. When you make a vehicle faster, those parts may break first unless you upgrade them.
“Weak links” are the components in a drivetrain or system that are most likely to fail first under increased power, heat, or stress. Performance builders often identify these parts and upgrade them proactively to avoid breakage.
"NHRA, the Winter Nationals.
So I'm going to head out Sunday to Pomona."
NHRA is the big organization that runs drag races in the U.S. If you hear NHRA, it usually means a real, official drag-racing event with set rules and categories.
NHRA stands for National Hot Rod Association, the major U.S. drag racing sanctioning body. When someone mentions an NHRA event, they’re usually talking about organized drag racing classes, rules, and timing/tech procedures.
"It's crazy. ... It's, it's no secret what Porsche is, you know, the attention Porsche has been getting the past, you know, I want to say several years, but maybe a little longer than that."
They’re talking about Porsche and why people have been paying so much attention to the brand. The idea is that Porsche started allowing more personalization, which made more fans and builds show up.
The speaker is talking about Porsche’s recent rise in attention and how the brand’s approach to customization has changed. That shift helped Porsche become more visible in enthusiast culture and show scenes.
"I think what it is, is, is when Porsche started to embrace the customization, the personalization of the cars, not, not just, you know, like instead of going, we make a Porsche 911, you know, you shouldn't touch it."
Customization here refers to allowing owners to personalize their cars beyond factory configuration. In the Porsche context, the speaker argues that embracing modified builds helped the brand connect with the enthusiast community.
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computer access
"... because Dodge was like, you can't get into our computer."
The speaker is talking about whether people can access the car’s computer to tune or change things. If a brand restricts that, it can make modifications harder for shops and owners.
“You can’t get into our computer” implies restrictions on the vehicle’s electronic control systems, which can limit tuning and aftermarket development. In modern cars, access to the ECU/vehicle software is often a key factor in how easily owners can modify performance and features.
"but like once you turned it into a commercial business, it was frowned upon by Dodge. So until Dodge finally embraced it and said, we, we were back."
Dodge is the automaker behind the Charger and Challenger, and the speaker credits Dodge’s stance as a key factor in whether tuning solutions were accepted or discouraged. The segment suggests Dodge eventually “embraced” the aftermarket/tuning ecosystem.
"Guys like Magnus Walker, who's been a fan of modifying his cars and personalizing his cars... Instead of going, we don't talk to him because we don't like him messing with our stuff."
Magnus Walker is a famous Porsche fan who builds and personalizes cars. In this discussion, he’s used as an example of someone Porsche culture has welcomed.
Magnus Walker is a well-known Porsche enthusiast and builder who popularized a style of personalized 911s. The segment uses him as an example of how Porsche culture has embraced influencers rather than pushing them away.
"They pop up on bring a trailer and Grand Ray Hall performance and they're a million, million, 1, million, 2..."
Bring a Trailer (BaT) is an online auction platform focused heavily on enthusiast and collector cars. The segment uses it as an example of where these high-value Porsche-related cars show up and sell.
"So there's never, you know, you, when is the right time to sell a car? [2576.5s] In most cases, it's is hold it as long as you can. [2579.8s] So the answer to that is, is what it's the right time for you."
This is basically asking when you should sell your car. Sometimes waiting longer helps the price, but the “right time” is different for everyone depending on their needs.
“The right time to sell” is about timing the market so the car’s demand and pricing are favorable. The discussion suggests that holding longer often helps, but the best time ultimately depends on the seller’s personal situation and goals.
"So the value of that nerd 935 has probably gone up enough to cover what all those mirrors would be going for today... one of the most famous Porsche racing cars was the Apple computer Porsche 935"
The Porsche 935 is a famous Porsche race car. People love it because it’s a serious track machine and also a big collector favorite. The hosts are saying this specific 935’s value has probably gone up a lot.
The Porsche 935 is a legendary 911-based race car built for endurance racing and later became an icon in motorsport culture. It’s especially famous for its dominance in the late 1970s and for being adapted into many track-day and customer-racing builds. In this segment, it’s referenced as a highly valuable “nerd” collectible whose value has likely risen.
"since he's had that car raced at multiple times at Laguna Seca, uh, you know, uh, the Duke of Richmond flew it to Goodwood"
Laguna Seca is a well-known race track in California. It’s challenging, so if a car has been raced there, it usually means it’s been proven on a real course. They’re using it to highlight the car’s racing background.
Laguna Seca is a famous road course in Monterey, California, known for technical corners and the “Corkscrew” section. Racing there is often used as a credibility marker because it’s a real test of braking, traction, and setup. The speaker mentions the car being raced there multiple times to emphasize its track history.
"the Duke of Richmond flew it to Goodwood, you know, so we can get it there on time and race the hill climb with that thing."
Goodwood is a famous UK motorsports venue. The hill climb is a timed event where cars drive up a steep course, and it’s a big deal for special or historic cars. They’re saying the car was flown there to compete.
Goodwood is a motorsport venue in the UK, and the “hill climb” is a timed ascent event where cars race up a steep course. It’s a major stage for historic and special cars, and participation can boost a car’s visibility and prestige. The segment ties the Porsche’s transport to Goodwood specifically so it could run the hill climb.
"we have it in the Paul Newman Hawaiian Tropic livery, but the Apple car, and we've always talked about the second, you know, phase of this car"
A “livery” is the car’s paint and sticker design—its overall look. It can be tied to a specific team or sponsor. Changing livery usually means more than just repainting; it can require matching decals and body details.
A “livery” is the car’s visual theme—paint, graphics, and decals—used to represent a team, sponsor, or era. The segment references a “Paul Newman Hawaiian Tropic livery,” which implies a specific historical look for the race car. Livery changes often go hand-in-hand with bodywork and replica accuracy.
"we probably got a like handmade kind of fiberglass or carbon fiber, like one or two of the missing body pieces."
Fiberglass and carbon fiber are materials used to make lightweight body parts. If you’re missing panels, using these materials can help you rebuild the shape, but it still takes careful craftsmanship to make everything fit right.
Fiberglass and carbon fiber are lightweight composite materials commonly used for body panels in performance and specialty builds. Using them for missing body pieces can reduce weight and improve stiffness, but it also requires skilled fabrication for correct shape, mounting, and finish.
"Adam, it's got to get us, you know, it's got to, like any of these projects, my projects, your projects, got to get the time, the energy, the money, you got to get everything lined up to do it."
A project car is a car you’re working on for a while. It usually needs repairs or upgrades, and you have to plan the time and money to make it happen.
A “project car” is a vehicle being worked on over time—often with upgrades, repairs, or a full rebuild—rather than something you just drive day to day. The key idea is that it takes coordinated time, money, and effort to get everything lined up.
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Did you know that race fuel was dirtier than, like, dreaming?
Like, it doesn't sit as well?
Oh, yeah.
It doesn't have the detergents and stuff in it.
It doesn't have the stabilizers, the detergents, doesn't have any of that stuff that we get
I didn't even think of that.
It makes it logical, but I didn't think of that.
I poured some fricking race fuel in the Cobra, and man, it did not like it, like, by no means.
And it only sat there for probably, I don't know, two years?
Yeah.
You know, and you would, I don't know.
I would have thought that any gas would have held up and be that, but then you bring up
a logical.
Yeah.
So, I mean, if you think about a lot of fuel and, you know, having a guy like Lake Speed
Jr. has been on the show in the past, the oil guy, he would know more about this, you
know, fuel and oil, but just the detergents and stuff, a lot of the fuel and oil that
we use really kind of comes from like the same handful of companies, if that.
And what makes them different is the detergents at, basically, that's at the pump, you know,
your difference between your shell and your Chevron and whatever.
And then there's their Tier 1 and their, you know, type of fuels.
I remember years ago, there was a big change where Costco was really getting into the fuel
thing and building out more gas stations, but their fuel was crap.
And I put it in a 65 Mustang and it ran like shit.
And then at some point over the years, you know, this could be 20 years ago, I can't
recall exactly.
They hired like the new head of like Costco fuel, right?
And this guy was like, first thing we need to do is we need, we need better fuel.
Like we need to be, you know, the right tier fuel compete with everybody else.
So, yeah.
And then from there, it's like, who knows what they do with their detergents and whatever.
But yeah, it comes down to and light, your racing fuel, like light, heat, how you store
it, you know, it all affects the fuel.
I just wouldn't have thought that it would have sat longer.
That's all.
Yeah.
That's all.
Ultimately, I mean, and I didn't take that into consideration, but I mean, yeah, I don't
know.
I thought it's race fuel.
It's not.
You're itself, right?
Right.
Man, I'm telling you, I'm still trying to get it out and I mean, I had a half a tank
and then I put like two and a half gallons in and that was enough to screw it up.
It was enough.
Oh, wait.
It's screwed up.
And I mean, that carburetor doesn't like it and it throws so much futile in there that
it's like a rush of really shitty whiskey or something.
Yeah, right.
I mean, I don't know, but it, man, I'm still trying to burn it out.
I got to drop the Cobra, get the interior finally done, but I have to keep it idling
enough to get it down.
Yeah.
So I got to accomplish that in the next couple of days.
Yeah.
You just pull it outside of the garage and just let it sit there with the engine running.
I mean, it's not going to use a lot of fuel just sitting there, but it will.
Now that the problem is, is that it won't idle.
And so I have to sit in it and baby it for 20 minutes and drive it around.
Yeah.
I got to drive it around.
I mean, eventually.
Or drain the tank.
I mean, you could.
Yeah.
But I was, but that was the dilemma, right?
So I've already got half gallon or a half a tank, right?
Now granted, it's not a large tank in a freaking Cobra, but I mean, it's pain in the ass.
It's not a pain in the ass, but it was, it was a little bit of a pain in the ass.
So I'm like, you know, effort, I'm going to dilute it more and put some more premium
in it.
So that's what I did.
And logic will tell you to me that that will, if there's enough of a dilution, then it's
not even going to pick up the crap anymore, except for the fact that the crap had been
sitting in the carpet.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just going to continue to drive around the block.
So if anybody sees me around, I'm just trying to get the crappy gas out of the vehicle.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I've been down that road before.
Like I said, I had it in the Mustang years ago and, and I filled up and it was such terrible.
And I was just like, Oh, now I got a full tank of fuel and it's not running well.
It's like, what do I do with it?
Do I try to pump some of it out?
Or I try to, like, I didn't want to, I don't want to like drain the tank from underneath
or anything.
I think I ended up kind of what you're doing.
I think I ended up trying to dilute it some more.
So I, I probably just, um, I ran a pump through the fuel filter through the fuel filler and
I just ran a tube and electric pump and got some of it out that way.
And then it was kind of topped it off and then just kind of ran it because it was a bad tank
of pump gas.
It wasn't race gas or anything else.
But, but yeah, but I had, you know, 15 gallons of terrible gas and I needed to pump out.
Yeah, that's a different story.
I mean, for sure.
I mean, I definitely would have drained the tank or pumped it out that, but yeah, you
got a half of the tank and, you know, it only holds like 12 to 15 gallons anyway.
Yeah.
And then you only put a gallon and a half in that.
So you do the ratio and then, Hey, if I dump in five gallons of fricking clean premium,
then it's going to dilute it.
So if nothing else than I get myself an excuse to take the car.
Take the car.
Yeah.
I'm sure that car eats plenty of fuel when, when you lean into it.
Yeah, but I took Wanda's race car out yesterday and talking about slurping fuel, man, that
LS on that thing, I can watch.
I got that automator, you know, the heads up.
It's all contained in the one.
Yeah.
It's like a digital, digital gauge package.
That's in it.
Yeah.
The display display.
Man, I can watch the gap and it was weird because I had nine gallons when I left and
then I had like 11 and a half gallons halfway there.
And then when I got back, I had six, but I could, you know, it was, it had something
to do with the way I was driving it.
I'd been sloshing around or something, but it was quite inaccurate at the time.
But man, I could see it when it was, when it leveled out, when I could, and I stood
it on it, it was, yeah, you can just watch that.
That Wanda's car is the black Transam, right?
It's kind of like the satin black or flat black Transam.
Yeah.
The fully prep, you know, Optima car basically.
Right.
What year is that car?
70.
It's a 70.
It's a 70.
And what's so cool about it as we talk about it, and you and I spoke prior to coming on
here, right when I got it, it was a dream of mine to get that blue, white stripe, you
know, 70 Transam, four speed, Ram air three.
But I've been on one during the longest yard and I left to film.
And then I got back from filming and I won the car.
Right.
And I really didn't do my due diligence.
Well, I did, but I did.
I had known that it wasn't a numbers, numbers car by any means, but I knew that it had Ram air four
heads on it.
And so it made it, you know, more, more powerful, more valuable than all the above.
Right.
So I got it.
And then, ironically, at the same time, I was hosting Optima and Wanda's a stunt woman
and she can drive, you know, circles around me.
And so I've got all the sponsors together.
We built this car and she drove it in the Optima challenge.
And man, it's, it's the, I basically built my dream car other than the fact that, you
know, it is the first second gen carbon fiber front end.
Yeah.
And it, but it's just the fit them.
It's brutal.
This one, this has the LS seven in it.
Yeah.
It's such a killer car, man.
As I said,
I remember seeing the car at one of the Optima events where it was like, it was staged out
front of SEMA.
You and I were out there.
And then you had a little accident with this little, yeah, I was at El Toro doing Optima
and I hit a timing tower at 106 or 120 something like that.
And somewhere between 120 and 160, I know it was a, it hurt.
They didn't hurt.
I mean, I hit it sideways.
I smashed the door and what was so funny, I don't think it was funny to them, but Wanda
was picking up her parents at the airport at the time and they arrived back and the cars
buckled.
So, but you know, it was just the door.
It was no big deal.
But it's a race car.
I mean, it's a, you know, when Kyle Tucker and Detroit speed, you know, was just kind
of blooming.
And people really saw what he could do through the vehicles and his driving performance and
Optima.
Man, he's upper echelon now, right?
So that was one of, I don't want to say one of his firsts, but you know, he and I just
met and they many tub did, you know, some bracing on the engine compartment, pan
arm bar, you know, a lot of suspension stuff along with ride tech, ride tech did the half
cage in the front.
And then we did a lot of sparkle stuff, the seats and belts and steering wheel and then
automator did the gauges and then, you know, ring brothers and the hinges and a lot of them
there goes and a lot of the little accessories.
So I mean, it was a combination build from all the people that were doing Optima and
it was cool because it was kind of a launching pad at the time Optima was for all of these
great builders who had, who weren't, you know, known by the masses.
And now I got a car that they all built and then, oh, the icing on top of the cake is
when Hendricks said that the only way they'll do the motor is if I ship them the car, they
have their guys do it.
So I'm like, oh, well, yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, it was put, it was, it was built by a number of different people and a number of places.
Albert Melkor, who was a big Transam guy, lives up in Canada.
He did the first carbon fiber fenders and nose and everything for that car.
And I think I was a guinea pig.
And, you know, the fit of it's not great by any means, but it's cool.
It's a great car.
You can take out LS7.
It's got a Tremac in it.
It's just so much fun, man.
And it's one of my favorite cars ever.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a, that's a cool car and that's got a good engine in it and, you know, naturally
aspirated and just, you know, just pulls and it's Hendricks prepped, you know, too.
So it's,
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it was funny.
The funny story.
It's not funny to watch it, but right when we finished the car, the last people that
had the car was, was Detroit speed.
And she got on the track, man, and the rear end kept sliding out from under every, every
time she, you know, put power.
I think she was coming out of the turns or going, yeah, coming out every turn.
So she'd fricking whip one.
Well, she came back to the pits and it turns out the fricking panter bar was never moved
from installation.
And you're going to, and I'm not throwing Kyle into the bus by any means, because it's
more of a hilarious, you know, occurrence than anything, but we, we got under there and
it had never been moved.
Like it, it wasn't adjusted.
Like it wasn't out of adjustment.
It had never been moved.
So once we fix that.
Pardon me for a second.
Yeah.
Short, short the lights.
Once we fixed that, she was absolutely fine.
But prior to that, it's basically like, you know, driving with one hand tied behind your
back.
Yeah.
And she, that was her first time she'd done a road course anyway.
So.
Yeah.
And a small little adjustment, you think of all the work they put into the front, the
rear suspension, everything, and even just the slightest little thing, like, you know,
having the panter bar not, not set properly.
But, but again, it wasn't that it wasn't that it was set improperly.
It was, it was literally installed as it came from the factory.
So the piece had never been moved period, let alone adjusted.
So it was where it came from the factory.
So, I mean, I guess it was threaded all the way to one side.
So it was, she had no advantage of being even close to it being properly done.
So anyway, that's me again.
But you would think that if it left Kyle's place, it would have been completely dialed in.
That's all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who knows.
Yeah, it's fake.
It's just funny.
That's all.
Yeah.
And actually who, who, who identified it was freaking Hubernet.
Oh, yeah.
That and I going under the car right when she came in and he started laughing.
And so, yeah, the joke was on.
Yeah.
The rear end probably wasn't centered under the back.
If that bar is off by a significant amount, like you're probably seeing one tire stick
out and the other one super tucked in under the fenders and.
Yeah.
And we didn't know at the beginning and we thought it was some misalignment.
And so we were going to try.
We were going to spacer, right?
Because of the width of the wheel on one side.
And we were going to spacer on the other side, you know,
which you don't want to be doing that.
Yeah.
You're racing, right?
And so we just, we didn't know what to do.
We looked underneath it.
I mean, it was so simple.
I just wanted to shoot myself.
But again, it was, it's a funny story, but.
Yeah, jokes.
Yeah.
I was telling you the story about the trans and so we pulled the,
so went before we sent it off to let everybody do their thing to it.
Obviously we pulled everything that was existing in it.
And it had a, from what I understood, it was a Ramner three block.
And then, you know, like a 70 Ramner three block and then Ramner four heads.
And we just put it in storage in the ocean side.
And Andy is coming back.
My buddy's coming back from LA.
Monday.
And he had an empty five by eight trigger.
And so one thing led to another and I can finally see my engine after.
It's probably been 15 to 20 years since I've seen that engine.
And so he got here yesterday evening.
As I said, in a five by eight trailer.
Enclosed.
And it was, it was the pallet was sideways.
The engine stand that not that engine stand, but an engine stand,
which is the most rudimentary engine stand I've ever seen.
Yeah.
Look like a stick.
It was, it was leaned up against the motor that was leaned on the
power.
And so let's just say it wasn't the easiest thing to extract from that
little trailer.
Yeah.
After getting the tractor, Clint helped me.
You know, we need to have three people.
So I was sitting on the tongue of the trailer.
So the thing didn't flip up and he flipped the truck up in the air
because things, you know, went 500 pounds, right?
So that's a little tiny aluminum trailer.
So.
End of the day, we got it out.
It was riddled with fricking rat.
Remnants, all kinds of houses, all kinds of stuff in there.
So I really enjoyed at 15 minutes prior to the start of this podcast,
stripping down to my shorts and my flip-flops and grabbing a pressure
washer and cleaning that some bitch.
Yeah.
Very, very satisfying just to see it was great,
but then I had to smell it and then I had to pressure wash it,
but I can't wait to tear that thing down, restore it.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I don't have no plan whatsoever.
But I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if I asked Bugler to be involved
and do some kind of.
Well, so this is the original engine from the Trans Am.
When you guys did the, the.
Yeah, so it's not an original engine because I ran the numbers right when
it came here and I knew it was an original to begin with.
And, you know, it was an original block, but the parts,
the heads didn't come with that motor Ramair four heads.
I identified that and that's 100% the truth.
I ran the numbers on it, which is wonderful because I always thought it
was, but I never ran numbers on it.
But the block, the blocks of 71, which is probably the most common and,
you know, during that period of time.
So that's nothing special, but there's no reason.
I mean, I could do whatever I want.
There is no project car for it to go in.
You know, I've got this.
I've got this up in LA.
I've got a 70.
Judge the truth, the three speed manual car.
I told you about years and years ago.
Yeah.
I could build this thing up and put it in that.
Yeah.
And maybe have fun with it because it's not a numbers matching car.
But I mean, who knows the.
I mean, even for now, you could.
You could just clean it up and have a display engine or,
or even paint it before you rebuild it and just have a pretty cool display
engine on it.
There's a few things, you know, maybe change the valve covers if they're
rusted or a little bit.
Cause I saw a little bit of rust, I think in the photo.
Oh yeah.
You know me.
Yeah.
Remember what I did with the willies?
Yeah.
I'm carrying every inch of centimeter of this thing down and buffing it out
and making it absolutely beautiful.
The question is, what's the end result?
I mean, I'd love to make it completely period correct looking right now and
have it as a, you know,
a placard in the middle of the fricking garage.
Yeah.
I mean, I've got, you know, the 170 engine in a crate.
You can't see it.
Right.
And so it'd be nice to have this as a display.
What a cool engine.
I mean, it's a beautiful color.
Originally that that thing came in.
And I can put it in anything and I could do anything I want with it.
I'm just happy to have it back to have the option to do whatever I want.
But visually, I'd love to have it originally look like it would have
come in that car.
Cause it's a cool one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a cool piece.
And yeah, it just needs to be cleaned up.
Maybe you get some pain on it or anything.
I mean, you, that you can do.
See, you understate the way you have no idea of the length of
something to go through to make this thing.
I'm sure I was just saying, like, like in the next two days,
you could make a display engine out of it with just some paint and
some cleaning and then put together the plan going, am I going to
rebuild it and we're going to port the heads?
What are we going to do?
And then, but, but it could be pushed into the middle of the
room and look good for now pretty easily.
Oh, with a couple cans of paint.
Are you kidding me?
I could do that in 45 minutes.
Yeah.
But then, you know, you're, you're doing a hack job.
I want to take my time and have fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, at least you have an engine on a stand that you can play
around with, right?
Like that's kind of cool.
Like awesome.
You know, as you're digging into it, if you haven't done a lot of
engine work, it's an opportunity to, you know, to, to study up on
it and, you know, get the intake off, get the heads off and how
much you're going to do yourself.
Are you going to get into the, to the short block or are you
going to have that?
That usually requires some machine work too.
You, you know, so you probably have that sent out, but.
I'll get it all prepped.
I'll get it all torn down and all bagged and everything and
videoed and everything so that when it needs to be machined
or whatever I choose to do further with it mechanically, I
mean, they're going to have to hone it and then do all the fine
tuning to it, but visually I'll get it prepped to where all
they've got to do is start going to work.
They don't have to.
I mean, they're not going to get a nasty engine.
I just want them to be able to do, to, to jump right into what
they could do and I can't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's cool.
That'll be, that'll be a cool piece.
You know, I'm sure you can make some, some good power.
I mean, these days, you know, you can make, you can make big
power with, you know, with somebody good aftermarket parts and
stuff that are out there.
There's plenty.
There's plenty.
Yeah.
So did I tell you when, so kids coming out this afternoon, he's
stopping by.
He's got a trailer.
Yeah.
My kid from Tremac.
Yeah.
But I'm trying to get he and Bailey's goofy butt out here
next week after I get back and we're going to hone in on the
frickin, the 2,500 or the 1,500, the Ram.
The Ram to do the manual swap.
Yeah.
I was like a kid in the candy store over the weekend.
I found a four speed console, four console for that.
They came in a Cummings of the same year.
And so it's a direct replacement.
And so, man, I got that thing.
I got it.
Yeah.
It's like a I'm lighting the wick for kid when he stops by to
make sure we get all that stuff together.
So the goal is to get as much of it together as humanly possible.
Whereas next week, when hopefully we can pull baby over here,
then we can start on that car.
I got up this morning and will baby was on a plane to California.
So he's exactly maybe he's not ready yet.
But when that's yeah, next week, we still have time.
Yeah.
We tried to push him, but you know, there's only so much Jewish
guilt I could lay upon somebody without them.
Yeah.
We're going to get some photos of that truck.
We also reached out to Whipple.
Okay. Yeah.
We're putting one on there.
It's gonna, bro, if you're going to do it, why not have some fun
with it, right?
I mean, my dream is always to have a big brick and half ton
or quarter, three quarter ton, you know, with a big four speed
because I want that SRT 10 truck, right?
Yeah.
But you can't have a, you can't have one of those.
And in your mind, not feel guilty about taking it out and
beating the hell out.
Right.
Well, I'm kind of building one.
You know, I'm building like a 99 TRX, how it would have been
back then.
Yeah.
Five speed.
So.
Right.
But this is the one that has like the, the bedliner all over it.
You know, so it's, it's meant to, to be thrashed a little bit more.
Like the TRX is cool.
You can go off road, but you know, but like your TRX, it's,
you know, it's PPF and it's ceramic coated and it's, you know,
like there's only so far you can take it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know,
there's this one.
I could literally blow it up as Wanda would love to see because
she hates the truck.
I can literally blow that fricking thing up and not have any remorse
whatsoever because that's why we're building it.
That's why I kept it.
You know, during the longest yard, I commute, you know,
and we were up in El Toro or not El Toro.
El Camino college or something like that is where we were staying
and we were doing the football scenes there.
And man,
what was the point of that?
Cause the truck that, that wanted it like.
And so when I bought this truck, thank you.
When I bought this truck originally, it was a show truck.
I swear to you, it was absolute.
It had a trailer with a matching trailer.
It was beautiful.
And I just destroyed, you know, during the longest yard,
I take the extras, the football extras, the guys that were cool.
They come back, come home with me.
And we blow that truck up with eucalyptus trees because eucalyptus
trees grow like weeds out in California.
And they also are like kindling.
They go up like fricking their home.
And so with all the fires, quite obviously we try to euthanize the,
the landscaping to where, you know, we're as safe as humanly possible.
So we got these 40 foot eucalyptus trees and we're dropping them
and throwing them and we completely destroyed that truck.
And so that was the precursor to turning it into now something
that I can, I can, I can make a really ugly, I can place a dress
on a really ugly pig, but in the end it's still a really ugly pig.
Yeah, right.
To an 18 year old, this is probably the coolest truck that you could have.
For me, and especially for Wanda, I mean, it's disposable.
So why not beat the hell out of it, have fun while you're doing it?
Hey, first and foremost, when it rains, I can go down to the shooting range
and take the truck and go nuts with it.
Or if I take the TRX, number one, I'm going to worry about, you know,
the PPF and all that crap, but it's, it's all, it's full four-wheel drive
all the time.
And unless you go in and after market it up, you, that's what you got.
This truck's rear-wheel drive and it's got a 390 and imagine it
with a Whipple on and a five-speed.
I mean, it's going to be so much fun.
I mean, it's got 37s on it.
It's got like a six inch, eight inch lift.
I mean, the thing's going to be like a mini monster truck.
And so I can just beat the dog crap out of it and not really care, you know,
and then also most importantly have a vehicle to drive my dogs around.
Yeah.
I'm just going to say the dogs can jump, can jump in.
Well, I can, can't jump in if it's lifted that much, but.
Yeah, it's tall.
It sucks getting in and out of, but I mean, you know, it's tall for me,
but it's just cool to have as a toy that's disposable.
Yeah.
And if you look behind you, none of those are disposable.
Yeah, right.
You can't take any of them out without your, without your conscience going,
well, you probably shouldn't do that.
Right.
I don't have that, that truck, you know, so it's, it's soothing.
Right.
It's like Wanda's race car.
That's why we built Wanda's race car.
That's why I can hit a timing tower at 120 and smash the door and not,
I had no guilt whatsoever.
Other than the fact that her parents were.
Well, because it's replaceable and it's, you're not worried about like,
oh, that I just cave in like an original door piece because we've done body
panels on the car.
We're not too worried about the fitment of things and it's all just done in a
flat black.
So it's easy to just kind of.
Like it's, it was, it was meant to be that kind of beat up on the track car,
you know, not have to come back.
Like how many times have you like tried to get, you know, rubber off a rear
quarter panel from a burnout?
And you're like, oh, you got to get it while it's hot.
Otherwise it's never coming off.
You know, it's.
I got a rhino lined truck.
Right.
I'm not worried about shit with that thing.
Like nothing.
Yeah.
So I mean, it's the only problem is now I got to worry about the drive shaft
and I got to worry about the brakes.
Now I got to upgrade everything.
I mean, I mean, I mean, you're, you're throwing some aftermarket parts into
it to make it fun, the five speed, the engine, the Whipple, you know, right,
you got to do a couple of the weak links on it.
But those are the aftermarket parts that are also fixable, replaceable, you
know, the, the authenticity of that particular part going, oh, this is an
original thing.
I don't want to screw it up.
Like you go, no, no, no, like we're going to thrash this truck.
And if I, if I break a drive shaft, I'll get another drive shaft.
Here's an example.
I'll put it, I'll put it into proper perspective for you and all of our
viewers.
The only thing that I cared about.
That it be original in that vehicle was the center console because it, it's
just, it just looks original, right?
And it, other than that, I did not care, I don't care about any one piece of
that entire thing.
The center console was cool.
I think it's cool because it's, it came out of one that had that as a,
not as an option, but it came with it, right?
So it's just, it's a direct replacement.
It looks like this thing came with four speed.
And so other than that, I don't care about anything period about being
original on that vehicle.
But that for some reason I really like, but this is, that's just put it
into perspective.
I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
I'm putting a whip on a 392 crate motor.
It's, it's fun.
It's going to be fun.
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So I took the lightning out the other day.
I took the black truck out.
You know, I always go down and, you know, try to make sure the batteries charged
and, you know, try to stretch its legs every once in a while.
And it was kind of like it was sitting in the garage over here at my apartment
because I don't have warehouse space for it anymore.
And it was getting a little, it's getting a little dusty down there.
And I was like, yeah, it's a good time to take it out, get it washed, put a couple
of miles on it, put a little fresh fuel in it.
And it still needs a lot of work, but I got in it and I was just like,
I miss driving this truck.
Like I like this truck.
You know, I know the new engine's in it.
The new suspension isn't in it, but I, there's no door panels on the inside.
I got those over at the storage unit, but I like driving it.
And as soon as I drive it, people that recognize the lightning,
there's always just a handful of people just taking it down to the car washing
back just to do it myself.
Three people must have been like, oh, I love those lightnings.
That was my dream truck in the day.
It was like, I love that truck.
It sounds cool.
It looks cool.
It's like, I appreciate it.
Yeah.
It's a cool piece.
That's why you have it, right?
It's, it fits that spot.
I mean, it's perfect.
I mean, like I said, each car has a story and each car is here for a reason.
And you use that.
And, you know, nine times out of 10, you use them.
Like if it depends on what I'm doing and where I'm going to go,
that will enable me to use one of those things behind you.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm going in the short.
The weather is beautiful and no chance of rain.
Then I'm going to take the cobra and then, you know,
if I'm going a longer distance than I don't want to worry about the,
the overheating and the battery fricking or the whatever, you know,
I'm going to take a couple of them.
So yeah, it's, it's,
it's awesome to take that out and realize why you have that in your
collection, you know, because that defines it.
Sometimes you forget about it.
Right.
You know, anytime I bring somebody here,
I realize that there's a car that I'm neglecting that for one reason or
another.
I should really take out and enjoy it because that's why I have.
Yeah.
You know, and it's nice to be able to like grab something to,
to go to an event or something coming up.
And out here, you know, we're in April.
April's full of events in Southern California this weekend.
So as you guys listen to this, you could still go this weekend as
NHRA, the Winter Nationals.
So I'm going to head out Sunday to Pomona.
It's the time of the, it's the best time right now.
It's great.
Event after event and you can go anywhere.
You can point at a piece of the map and there's a car show.
You know, I'm doing, I'm doing that one with Kending and Richard Rollins up
in Hempstead, New York,
May the second or May the second and third.
Okay.
And I mean,
there's so many things going on.
It's wonderful to now at least have that as a huge option.
Drag racing this weekend, the following weekend is Grand Prix of Long Beach.
You know, they don't do the pro celebrity race anymore,
but I know you've been out there a number of times for that event.
That race.
That's right.
As you laugh, but we both laugh.
It was fun.
It's a funny story now.
It was painful then.
I'm a good actor, man.
I'm a really good actor.
People don't understand.
People don't even know the full story and I'm not going to tell it.
Well, I know the full story, but I'm not going to tell it.
I'm not going to tell it.
I think the statue of limitation isn't.
We're not there yet.
It's not my story to tell, but it is a funny story.
I mean, now it's a funny story.
Now it's funny.
So NHRA this weekend, Grand Prix of Long Beach, the following weekend.
And then after that, I think the 25th is the Porsche Air Water Event in Orange County.
It's the Lufka Colt.
Is that going around the country or something?
Yeah.
And then like Lufka Colt does, that's more of the curated kind of event.
The air water event is it's a little more casual.
It's kind of like a little bit more casual lift event.
Now they do have some of the displays and that are kind of the curated cars,
but also there's just like a Porsche car show going on.
And then broad arrow does an auction on site.
It's a, it's just strictly Porsche auction happening on site.
You know, I appreciate all your help with bringing a trailer thing in the course,
but I think we've fricking screwed up and we should have waited like eight months after all of this.
It seems to me, and I'm not, you know, the biggest Porsche guy by any stretch of imagination,
but it seems to me like the pinnacle of these Porsche events have just popped up
between the end of the sale of my vehicle and the end of the summer.
It's crazy.
Is it like, is it always like that?
Or am I just paying more?
It has been that way.
And it's, listen, it's, it's, it's no secret what Porsche is, you know,
the attention Porsche has been getting the past, you know, I want to say several years,
but maybe a little longer than that.
It's, I think what it is, is, is when Porsche started to embrace the customization,
the personalization of the cars, not, not just, you know, like instead of going,
we make a Porsche 911, you know, you don't, you shouldn't touch it.
Like, because we did it right.
You know, once they kind of got over that and they said, no, no, no, we're embracing it.
We want to see customizations.
We want to see, you know, the builds of like the gun that works in the singers.
And, you know, we want to see everybody's version of their car, the modified stuff.
They did not do that.
They would have died because you have to embrace the movement and the movement
this time was led by the public.
Yeah.
And so I think that was one of the, one of the best business decisions they've ever made
because looking at that.
You know, we, we, as, as a Dodge fan, you guys had a bit of this a few years ago too,
where, you know, new Dodge, I don't know, Challenger comes out and, and,
but Mustangs were out and Camaros were out and they were all over the SEMA show
because Dodge was like, you can't get into our computer.
We, you can't tune it.
You know, we're not letting you tune it.
And all of a sudden there's none of those cars at SEMA.
Like nobody cared.
Like we can't tune it.
You're locking us out.
And there are some, some engineers that were already able to hack it and tune it,
but it wasn't legal and you couldn't sell anything with, not legal,
but like once you turned it into a commercial business, it was frowned upon by Dodge.
So until Dodge finally embraced it and said, we, we were back.
You can do aftermarket.
Like when they reached out to the aftermarket companies,
the whippals and the vortex of the year.
Yeah.
And then what happened that the next SEMA show was all like Dodge Chargers
and Challengers going, we can do it now.
So it's, it's funny that you look at that.
Like something that I read this years ago that the Mustang,
the aftermarket business of just Mustang parts,
not just stuff in the Ford racing catalog,
but just everything from restoration parts to everything you can do on a Mustang.
That's a billion dollar a year business.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Right.
It's like your back of that business.
Yeah.
So to, so to not embrace that.
So yes, Porsche is embracing that and,
and they are turning a lot of those people into notable players and celebrities.
Guys like Magnus Walker, who's been a fan of modifying his cars and personalizing his cars.
Instead of going, we don't talk to him because we don't like him messing with our stuff.
They, they embraced them and said, we do like what you're doing.
Right.
Now look at, look at what you see at Rensport and what you see at Lyft,
what you see at Airwater and all of the companies that have popped up that are just influenced by Porsche,
Singer, Gunther Works and, and countless more is now that are doing it.
And all of those things, by the way, all of those cars,
those are million dollar cars that have all their value.
They pop up on bring a trailer and Grand Ray Hall performance and they're a million,
million, 1, million, 2, look at roof, look at, you know, like.
But seriously, to me, and maybe it has everything to do with the fact that once I seriously considered putting the Porsche up,
I wanted to be as knowledgeable as possible going into it because I didn't want to be a dumbass misrepresenting a car.
I never, that's irresponsible in our, in our niche or in any niche.
You know, but it just seems to me like there was a frickin nuclear explosion of Porsche since January.
But again, it's, it's like when part of that is you just know something.
Yeah, you notice something on a car and you've never really noticed that before.
And so when you're driving, that's the first thing you know.
Maybe it's kind of like that.
It is because you started taking a look at that environment and then you realized how big that environment is.
So it is a little bit of that.
Yeah, it was it was mostly there.
It was mostly there.
That's not to say that that's not to say in two years from now, three years, five years from now,
that car is going to be worth a lot more money.
It probably will because that's what the community is trying to do.
So there's never, you know, you, when is the right time to sell a car?
In most cases, it's is hold it as long as you can.
So the answer to that is, is what it's the right time for you.
Right.
Like if it's the right time for you to sell a car, then that's the right time.
You know, listen, you know.
Yeah, I mean, the grass always greener on the other side.
You always second guess yourself in any decision if, you know, even if it comes out for us, right?
But it's just like I said, it's just, I'm like, oh, man, I shouldn't go to them.
And it's like, maybe because I've searched all these things per Porsche on all of my devices.
And then now all they do is push Porsche to me.
Yeah.
Right.
So that may have a lot to do with it too.
So it's just, I'm like, ah, can't get myself.
Hey, man, it's cool.
I mean, at one point, at one point, Adam Crowley had three Lamborghini murals.
He had an SV, he had a P, he had an S.
There's three Lamborghini mirrors in the collection and they were all bought well.
And we sold them all and did well on them.
But I think the Murat SV sold for two million dollars.
Now we are, you know, maybe we're 10 years later, nine years, maybe 10, nine years later.
And SV sold for six million dollars and there's one that's coming up that could set a record.
So what I, but I, what I always kind of tell him though is I was like, look, I mean, I, this doesn't work for everybody's strategy.
But for a guy like Adam, a guy like you, I go, Adam, what are you doing?
Are we selling Lamborghini mirrors because you got a big tax bill you got to pay?
Or, or like, are you selling Lamborghini mirrors to get something else in the collection?
So if we're moving stuff in the collection, that's different.
If he said, you know, you know, I'm going to buy a house in Seattle.
My son is moving to Seattle.
He's going to school.
I go, okay, I see what you're doing.
We're moving, we're moving money around.
But for us, it was, he wanted the Paul Newman portion 935, the Lamar winning car.
That was the holy praise cars.
And so we put a strategy together and go to afford that car.
I'm going to go to auction.
I'm going to buy that car.
You're going to be there.
We're going to be in the room.
That was a five million dollar car.
Right.
So how do you pay for that?
You go back to the collection and go, what are we selling?
What are we trying to do with the collection?
You know, what do we want to keep?
And I said, well, you really leaned into racing cars.
We don't really need the street cars.
Let's get rid of the street cars.
We love the mirrors, but you don't really drive them.
So let's, let's sell off some of the Lamborghinis and stuff.
And he's like, absolutely done.
Let's move the car.
So now we look at it and go, oh my God, we're left millions of dollars on the table.
I go, no, because you have a portion 935.
You have the Lamar winning, you know,
you have to keep everything winning.
You can't always wish for more and more and more.
Yeah.
Inherently we all do, right?
So there's a time and a place to do whatever your strategy is that you
feel is the, because of your strategy, it changes, right?
The, the, the,
the emphasis on trying to get the best price changes when your end goal is
something that you don't, you're going to get there.
You don't need to be, you know, uh, uh,
begging for the last million or whatever.
Right.
But, but it doesn't mean no matter what the circumstance,
it doesn't mean that if you see stuff afterwards that possibly affects,
would have affected the situation that you had, you always kick yourself, right?
No matter if that's just human nature.
Am I pissed off?
Absolutely not.
It's just, I think it's funny.
Yeah.
That you see Porsche everything and it's like,
and you know,
it happened to the whole time.
I just haven't seen.
Now what you're talking about funny thing is we sold the Lamborghinis and
now they're having their moment, but we bought a Porsche and Porsche is
having its moment.
So the value of that nerd 935 has probably gone up enough to cover what
all those mirrors would be going for today.
Right.
And, and let's not forget, since he's had that car raced at multiple
times at Laguna Seca, uh, you know, uh, the Duke of Richmond flew it to
Goodwood, you know, so we can get it there on time and race the hill
climb with that thing.
And it was the featured car when they were doing the Porsche anniversary,
like the things we've done with that car.
And, uh, again, I, I keep trying to remind some people that one of the
most famous Porsche racing cars was the Apple computer Porsche 935,
that Bobby Ray Hall raced.
This is that car.
This is the original Apple car.
That car has been cloned, but we have it in the Paul Newman Hawaiian
Tropic livery, but the Apple car, and we've always talked about the
second, you know, phase of this car would be to re-body it back to the
Apple car and do all the wonderful things that we did with that car
already, uh, as the Apple computer car.
And when we bought that car, uh, it came with several of the original
body pieces for the Apple car.
Now it's not an easy change.
It takes a lot of work and we will have to make some pieces from scratch,
but we've had it mocked up.
Like we had a, we had a shell of a 911 that we just bought with nothing
in it and we mocked up the body pieces to see what would need to be built
from scratch.
There's a whole storyboard that was set up with all the Apple computer
car stuff.
Dave Merrick, our friend from Honda, uh, that was part of the team, um,
was involved in part of the design or something in the team when Bobby Ray
Hall ran the Apple car.
So he, he came over, um, and he was like, yeah, so you can see the
number on the side, one is italicized and one is straight up and we did it
for this reason for a different race, but you should run it this way.
And Bobby Ray Hall came by and looked at the car, looked at the
storyboard of all the cars and he's, he's like, oh, that's where we ran it
here and that's where we ran it here.
And, and, uh, so we've got these guys that were around for this car.
And it's funny because we just talked about air water a few days ago,
uh, uh, Porsche North America called me and they said, Hey, have you guys,
you guys have the Apple car, right?
I'm like, yeah, they're like, are you going to make like a clone car?
Or are you going to do, and I said, well, we're going to re-body this car to
the Apple car at some point.
And they go, Oh, can you do that?
We need to put the end of the month.
I was like, no, no, no, this is like a hundred thousand dollar swap.
It is going to take a while.
And we probably got a like handmade kind of fiberglass or carbon fiber,
like one or two of the missing body pieces.
I was like, I was like, it's not going to, I was like, if you needed April next
year, we could probably get it done.
But there's, there's, there's a lot more life in that car.
We haven't had an opportunity to really campaign that car as the Apple car.
Clones have popped up, but those are easy to identify, right?
Because when you're doing a clone, you're just using a bunch of like aftermarket
parts and stuff anyway.
And you've got the original.
We got, he's got the real car.
So that'll be a cool piece to do at some point when we can get around to it.
Adam, it's got to get us, you know, it's got to, like any of these projects,
my projects, your projects, got to get the time, the energy, the money,
you got to get everything lined up to do it.
You know, but yeah, that'll be a cool car to do at some point.
And, you know, and we'd love to have the opportunity to get, you know,
we'd love for Apple to get involved.
We'd love to shoot some stuff around it, maybe make a little documentary series
out of a little docuseries for YouTube or something and just, you know,
interview a bunch of these people we've been talking about like Ray Hall and
you know, that were, you know, involved with the car.
And you kind of tell the story of the car with the underlying story being
we're rebuilding it to back to the Apple car and to bring it out there.
And listen, you know, to do, to go back to Monterey.
I know Adam in a heartbeat would go, Hey, let's go to Monterey.
Let's bring the Apple car when it's done.
And let's invite Bobby Ray Hall and see if he wants to drive it.
You know.
Yeah, no.
I mean, how could you miss that opportunity?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
We would do it.
And I think that would be, that would be fun to do.
And listen, that'd be fun to great on, you know, you want to get that moment on
camera as well and just talk to Bobby.
Oh my God.
That's priceless.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right.
So yeah, events going up.
I'm going to go out to NHRA first.
I'm going to go see Ron Capps.
I'm going to go see, see our new friend, Maddie.
Maddie Gordon.
He's tearing it up about that.
I will.
I'll see Alexis DeGiorgio as well.
We'll see, we'll see all the racers out there.
It'll be a good time.
All right, buddy.
I think we're going to wrap things up for today.
Yeah.
Anything else?
Yeah.
Sorry.
So much car stuff going on.
Yeah.
That's why we're here.
Yeah.
And it's that time of year, man.
It's beautiful out here.
Wow.
Yeah.
Like we said, events booked every weekend.
Yeah.
It's going to be fun.
All right.
Thanks guys.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you guys next week.
Until then, keep the air and the spare in the back of the wheel.
Yeah.
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