Gone Too Soon & Stayed Too Long, Fight For The Backseat, What’s The Catch? | Episode 1,023
About this episode
A lively discussion kicks off with the anticipation surrounding Toyota's new GR GT supercar, followed by a debate on cars that were discontinued too soon or stayed too long in the market. Enthusiasts share their thoughts on models like the Pontiac Fiero, Chevy Volt, and Honda Element, while also critiquing vehicles like the Volkswagen Tauss and Chevy Malibu for overstaying their welcome. The hosts also provide insightful buying advice for listeners considering their next car, emphasizing the importance of backseat comfort and technology in executive sedans. The episode wraps up with listener car conclusions, highlighting successful purchases and the joy of finding the perfect vehicle.
Toyota GR GT
"The follow-up to the Lexus LFA. They have officially said it's called the GR GT."
The Lexus LFA is a special sports car made by Lexus, famous for being fast and having a unique look. It was only made for a few years and is highly regarded by car enthusiasts.
The Lexus LFA is a limited-production supercar known for its exceptional performance and distinctive design. It was produced from 2010 to 2012 and is celebrated for its engineering and driving experience.
Toyota GR 86
"... it again. There should be a Lexus version of the GR 86. Problem is it would always get heavier. It would..."
AutoTempest
"...you'll end up shopping for your next car. And when you do, you need autotempus.com."
AutoTempest is a website that helps you find cars for sale by searching many different car listing sites at once.
AutoTempest is a car search engine that aggregates listings from various car sales websites, making it easier for buyers to find vehicles across multiple platforms.
Ferrari 308
"if you look at the 86's that had the more Ferrari 308 back on them. Those were really cool."
The Ferrari 308 is a famous sports car that was made in the 1970s and 80s. It's known for its stylish look and was featured in a popular TV show.
The Ferrari 308 is a sports car produced by Ferrari from 1975 to 1985. It is known for its distinctive design and was popularized by the television show 'Magnum, P.I.'
Pontiac Fiero
"...led it. So like the fee I think it was called the Fiero GT like the last model that was actually cooler t..."
Chevy Volt
"...the death of the Chevy Volt when it came out. Bolts cool but the Volt was like this is great range PHEV best of both worlds. Yeah. It was from long ago now..."
The Chevy Volt is a car that can run on electricity and gasoline. It was popular because it allowed drivers to use electric power for short trips and gasoline for longer ones.
The Chevy Volt is a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) that was produced by Chevrolet. It was known for its electric range and the ability to switch to gasoline power, making it a versatile option for drivers looking for both electric and traditional fuel capabilities.
Volkswagen Taos
"...which models have remained in production but arguably should have been discontinued like the Volkswagen Taos. He listed that..."
The Volkswagen Taos is a smaller SUV made by Volkswagen. It's designed to be practical and affordable, but some people think it doesn't stand out as much as other cars in its class.
The Volkswagen Taos is a compact SUV that was introduced as a more affordable option in the Volkswagen lineup. It offers a balance of practicality and modern features but has received mixed reviews regarding its overall appeal compared to other models.
Volkswagen Tauss
"But the Volkswagen Tauss is a great example and I actually have a kind of a longer list. I wonder top five. See I have I have two lists."
The Volkswagen Tauss is a small SUV made by Volkswagen. It's built to be practical and comfortable for everyday use, making it a popular choice for many drivers.
The Volkswagen Tauss is a compact SUV that has been designed to appeal to a wide range of consumers with its practicality and features. It represents Volkswagen's efforts to compete in the growing SUV market.
Saturn Sky
"...list the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky. There's going to be some overlap on our list."
The Saturn Sky is another small sports car made by Saturn. Like the Pontiac Solstice, it has a cool design and is fun to drive, making it a favorite among car lovers.
The Saturn Sky is a two-door roadster that was produced by Saturn, a division of General Motors, from 2006 to 2009. It shares its platform with the Pontiac Solstice and is known for its sporty design and enjoyable driving experience.
Pontiac Solstice
"So my first is actually I didn't do the Fiero because I had to list the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky. There's going to be some overlap on our list."
The Pontiac Solstice is a small sports car made by Pontiac. It has a stylish look and is fun to drive, especially because it has the power going to the back wheels, which helps with handling.
The Pontiac Solstice is a two-door roadster that was produced by General Motors from 2005 to 2009. It was known for its sporty design and rear-wheel-drive layout, making it popular among driving enthusiasts.
Mazda Miata
"...s trying to make let's be honest trying to make a Miata competitor which is not really the same kind of t..."
turbo
"...you want the turbo version but either way getting that close to the target..."
A turbo is a part that helps the engine get more air, which makes it more powerful. It allows the car to go faster without needing a bigger engine.
A turbo, or turbocharger, is a device that forces more air into the engine's combustion chamber, allowing it to burn more fuel and produce more power. This results in increased engine performance without significantly increasing engine size.
Chevrolet Corvette
"... ago at least 50 episodes we had talked about the Corvette brand becoming a three car brand carved off as a ..."
GM EV1
"I want to go to the EV1. We did it. No no kill it but but in the 90s..."
The GM EV1 was an early electric car made by General Motors. It was special because it ran on electricity instead of gas, but it was only available for a short time.
The GM EV1 was an electric car produced by General Motors from 1996 to 1999. It was one of the first modern electric vehicles and is notable for its innovative design and technology, though it was eventually discontinued.
electric car
"usable workable electric car. That wasn't perfect but again pretty close to the target..."
An electric car is a type of vehicle that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. This makes them cleaner for the environment because they don't produce exhaust fumes.
An electric car is a vehicle that is powered entirely or partially by electricity, using electric motors instead of internal combustion engines. They are known for being more environmentally friendly than traditional gasoline-powered cars.
direct drive electric motor
"that over the Toyota system. This is a direct drive electric motor with an on board generator and sometimes when you need all the power the actual motor is helping drive the wheels but most of the time you're being driven by the electric wheels..."
A direct drive electric motor is a motor that connects directly to the wheels, making it easier for the car to move without needing gears like in regular cars.
A direct drive electric motor is a type of electric motor that drives the wheels of a vehicle without the need for a traditional transmission. This setup allows for more efficient power delivery and can simplify the drivetrain.
on board generator
"This is a direct drive electric motor with an on board generator and sometimes when you need all the power the actual motor is helping drive the wheels but most of the time you're being driven by the electric wheels..."
An on board generator is a machine inside the car that makes electricity while you drive, helping to keep the car powered up without needing to plug it in.
An on board generator in an electric vehicle is a device that produces electricity to recharge the battery or power the electric motor while the vehicle is in operation. This can enhance the vehicle's range and efficiency.
Chevrolet Bolt
"...the time that the Bolt came out they said we're done here. And now I think Honda is stealing the space because Honda's all..."
The Chevrolet Bolt is a small electric car that you can charge at home. It's known for being one of the more affordable electric cars with a good driving range.
The Chevrolet Bolt is an all-electric subcompact car produced by General Motors. It is known for its affordability and range, making it a popular choice in the electric vehicle market.
Honda Element
"...but I have to say at the Honda Element folks are kind of at a cult. There's a whole thing. There's a whole thing. If you like the element you really..."
The Honda Element is a type of SUV that has a square shape and can be used for carrying people or cargo. Many people who like this car feel very strongly about it, almost like a fan club.
The Honda Element is a compact crossover SUV known for its boxy shape and versatile interior, which allows for various seating and cargo configurations. It has a unique design that appeals to a niche market, often attracting a dedicated fan base.
Ford Model T
"the Model T the the genesis of Ford is"
The Ford Model T was one of the first cars that many people could afford. It changed how cars were made and helped more people own cars.
The Ford Model T, introduced in 1908, is considered one of the first affordable automobiles, revolutionizing transportation and manufacturing with its assembly line production. It made car ownership accessible to the general public.
rear-wheel drive
"...but I'm showing the yes or rear-wheel drive hatchback version I have a recurring rant that's going to happen in this so good at these they're so good..."
In a rear-wheel drive car, the back wheels are the ones that move the car forward. This can make the car handle better, especially when going fast or taking turns.
Rear-wheel drive (RWD) is a vehicle configuration where the engine's power is sent to the rear wheels, providing better handling and performance in many driving conditions. This setup is often preferred in sports cars and performance vehicles for its balance and driving dynamics.
all-wheel drive
"...all-wheel drive is a thing you have...if it's going to rain..."
All-wheel drive means that all four wheels of a car get power from the engine at the same time. This helps the car grip the road better, especially when it's wet or slippery, making it safer to drive in bad weather.
All-wheel drive (AWD) is a drivetrain system that powers all four wheels of a vehicle simultaneously, improving traction and stability, especially in adverse weather conditions. This system is particularly beneficial in rain or snow, as it helps maintain control on slippery surfaces.
BMW 1 Series
"...where is the BMW one series gone too soon the alpha 4c I put this good in the category of the Pontiac solstice so close"
The BMW 1 Series is a small luxury car made by BMW. It's known for being fun to drive and has a stylish design, making it popular among younger buyers.
The BMW 1 Series is a compact car that was produced by BMW, known for its sporty handling and premium features. It was designed to appeal to a younger audience looking for a smaller, more accessible luxury vehicle.
Alfa Romeo 4C
"...the alpha 4c I put this good in the category of the Pontiac solstice so close"
The Alfa Romeo 4C is a small sports car that is very light and quick. It has a special design and is made for people who love to drive fast and enjoy the experience.
The Alfa Romeo 4C is a lightweight sports car known for its agile handling and performance. It features a mid-engine layout and a carbon fiber chassis, making it a unique offering in the sports car segment.
Lotus Elise
"...lightweight piece which was alpha 4c Alpine 110 and Elise the alpha didn't come off well..."
The Lotus Elise is a small, lightweight sports car that is very fun to drive. It is designed to be quick and responsive, especially on winding roads.
The Lotus Elise is a lightweight sports car known for its minimalist design and exceptional handling. It is often praised for its performance on twisty roads and tracks due to its low weight and agile dynamics.
Chevrolet Tahoe
"...the two-door Chevy Tahoe and two-door trucks in general but these these sell for crazy money now if you have a good one..."
The Chevy Tahoe is a large SUV that can carry many passengers and is good for off-road driving. It's popular for its size and versatility.
The Chevy Tahoe is a full-size SUV known for its spacious interior and off-road capabilities. It has been popular for families and outdoor enthusiasts alike.
Chevrolet Suburban
"...t's every bit as big as the folded-down back of a suburban but it's a smaller footprint overall and"
Isuzu VehiCROSS
"...also adjacent to this are things like the Isuzu VehiCROSS also a two-door truck but that's not my..."
The Isuzu VehiCROSS is a special type of SUV that has two doors and was made in the late 1990s. It's known for being good at driving off-road and has a unique look.
The Isuzu VehiCROSS is a unique two-door SUV that was produced in the late 1990s. It features a distinctive design and is known for its off-road capabilities, making it a standout in its class.
body on frame
"...these big body on frame two-door trucks are gone and kind of like the element..."
Body on frame means the main part of the vehicle, the body, is built on a strong frame. This is common in trucks and SUVs, making them tough and able to carry heavy things.
Body on frame is a vehicle construction method where the body is mounted on a separate frame. This design is often used in trucks and SUVs, providing durability and the ability to handle heavy loads.
Ford Bronco
"...en we can compete against Jeep and Land Rover and Bronco and and scout that they could reposition themselv..."
Jeep
"compete against Jeep and Land Rover and Bronco"
Jeep is a car brand famous for making tough vehicles that can drive off-road. They are popular among people who like outdoor adventures.
Jeep is an American automotive brand known for its rugged vehicles, particularly its SUVs and off-road vehicles. The brand has a strong heritage in off-road capability and adventure.
Land Rover
"compete against Jeep and Land Rover and Bronco"
Land Rover is a brand that makes fancy SUVs. They are built to be comfortable on the road but also strong enough to handle rough terrains.
Land Rover is a British brand known for its luxury SUVs that are designed for both on-road comfort and off-road capability. They are often associated with adventure and exploration.
Chevrolet Blazer
"lines everywhere futuristic looking that's not a blazer that's well because they just made it an SUV for ..."
Chevrolet Camaro
"...n SUV for families and people that couldn't buy a Camaro and have a family car really but the"
Honda Passport
"...s now being swallowed up by things like the Honda passport which is fine but it's not this yeah so"
Honda Civic Type-R
"... then Subaru exited the market and along come the civic type R and the Hyundai Elantra and this could have"
Hyundai Elantra
"along come the civic type R and the Hyundai Elantra and this could have competed against that it coul..."
Mitsubishi Eclipse
"Mitsubishi brand in a car yeah awesome eclipse aside yeah no no I agree no this is this is the o..."
Honda S2000
"... should have stayed that's great moving on to the S2000 which I think there are again two"
Volkswagen Jetta
"...tarting with a Volkswagen product and that is the Jetta now there is frantic typing going on right now on"
Toyota Camry
"...ell okay because this is essentially the Lexified Camry yeah it is a front wheel drive platform and that'..."
Toyota Crown
"... and the new ES also looks like it's built on the crown platform which is this tall mid-size between an a..."
Chevrolet Malibu
"...has to go on a trip and he's able to rent a Chevy Malibu it like makes him happy okay separate"
Honda Accord
"road you pull up in an SS next to a Honda Accord those are not the same kind of car that's true bu..."
Genesis G70
"... recommend the three series and the Julia and the G70 yeah GM could compete in this area if they"
Porsche Cayman
"... not mentioning my own car because here's the 718 Cayman the GT4 is shown on screen right here"
Volkswagen Id Buzz
"should die immediately oh controversial maybe the id buzz I'm showing on screen my question is what answere..."
Nissan Gtr
"moving on here to the GTR I'm showing a 20 24 Nissan GTR on screen here I would have known it was a 24 unl..."
GMC Hummer EV
"rather than later okay I got the Hummer EV on here as well we've had this cyber truck Hummer..."
Ford Mustang
"...have the Camaro on here I've also got to have the Mustang on here interesting yeah that's"
Porsche Panamera
"it can be mistaken for a tycon or even a Panamera depending upon the angle because they've gotten b..."
Porsche 911
"car yes but the 911 is big shrink it down and i say this with with lo..."
Ferrari Portofino
"...rs every day in the gt car day we drove a ferrari portofino that is owned by nugget and monica they have a"
Porsche Cayenne
"... it might be time to move away from their current cayenne it's a 2015 cayenne diesel with about"
Hyundai Genesis
"suite good technology made me go one place the genesis g90 okay this is on my list too that the full ful..."
Genesis G90
"... good technology made me go one place the genesis g90 okay this is on my list too that the full full ad..."
Cadillac Escalade
"considering and that is the 2025 Cadillac Escalade IQ the Escalade Eek Escalade Eek there is the Esc..."
Chevrolet Silverado Evs
"technology that the Hummer and the Silverado EVs use so they're claiming Cadillac estimated 465 mi..."
Cadillac Ev Escalade
"option and Cadillac that IQ so it's really the EV Escalade yes EV Suburban Escalade Eek Escalade Eek so gott..."
Mercedes-Benz Sclass
"that but it's still a Mercedes it's still the EV s-class and still a lot of engineering going on here yes quite a"
BMW New Bmw
"of man green m5 touring shown on screen the new bmw 717 horsepower wagon yeah what a great thing to n..."
Mercedes-Benz EQS
"...urious as the lucid the genesis even the mercedes eqs but uh but still might be worth a consideration a..."
BMW Series Bmw
"would the three series bmw it's because look at the best seats in"
Kia Stinger
"out of the kia stinger that's good that just it's so good kia stinger gt..."
Mini Countryman
"... drive homework to that point had been a jcw mini countryman of the same gen she liked it felt it was too"
Alpine A110
"...ghtweight's discussion i love this so he says the a110 doesn't come in a manual and we say it doesn't"
Skoda Rapid
"every 25 will do a live podcast that'll be a rapid fire questions only it won't be all it'll be car ..."
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