Greatest Car Movie Ever? | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep. 5

Hey, f***ing cars!

Oh, so what do you know this week?

I know that I've been doing just boring things on my truck this week, like ignition lock cylinder,

momo steering wheel, getting rid of like the stock Toyota setup, so kind of getting

ready to, I don't know, maybe take a day off this week and actually build all my

upper control arms and stuff and get ready to do an actual install.

Nice. That sounds pretty awesome. Progress is progress, right?

Yeah, I need to get it done now.

This week for me was like just finishing up,

buttoning up like welding small areas and the roadster finishing up that and catching up on

some of the stuff on the 66 Mustang as far as getting things a little more buttoned up for

the engine transmission to go back in and it's just like, like you're kind of said it's just

small stuff that like doesn't seem even worth talking about. It's like all the really not

glamorous. Yep. Some of it's not glamorous, sturdy.

So you have any like favorite car movies? Do you love car movies? Do you hate car movies?

I have, I guess that's not technically a car movie. My favorite movie of all is World's Fastest

Indian. It's about Indian motorcycle. That's an elbow. There's some car stuff. I would say

American Graffiti's obviously like way up there, bullet. We don't, we don't even have to mention

Fast and the Furious here. Is that even a car movie anymore? It was at the time.

You know, it was definitely at the time, but when the second one came out it kind of like

ruined everything for the first one to me, but...

Yeah. Tokyo Drift was still kind of cars, but then after that it really went down.

Yeah. To me it was definitely exposing a culture that was never exposed before.

And like I thought I seen devils of it in small towns around, but you know, you didn't get that

nobody had was in the movie. Obviously that was a movie, but I don't know. I think it was

for somebody like me in a small town. It was definitely an eye opener as far as like,

oh yeah, people do like really, even, even these younger guys caught up their cars pretty far.

Yeah. So what car movies are, is it for you?

Ford versus Ferrari is probably like one of my favorite movies for sure. Like right on top.

Favorite... I'm not a huge Nicholas Cage fan, but gone in 60 seconds is the

Nicholas Cage version, I think is pretty good, even though Nicholas Cage is an acquired taste,

depending on how you're feeling that day. I'd say that's the least weird he is.

Right. I mean, American graffiti is definitely up there. I wasn't really exposed to American

graffiti like really young. So I was exposed to it probably after, I mean, I was probably in my 20s

when I was exposed to it. I really didn't know. It was just never anything my parents watched or

anything like that. So I mean, they watch Greece all the time. And that's really not

at all. But when the, you know, in Greece, when the dude's throwing flames out the back

of his car when he's taking off, like that was pretty cool. Yeah. But it's still a musical

at the end of the day. American graffiti, I probably, I was 18 when I found that. When I was

in college, I used to get money every month or whatever. It was part of the student loans

I had. I had like a small check every month to take care of my room and board and food

and stuff like that. And I had a little bit of side and I would go to, there was this place

in Wyoming called Hastings and it was like a bookstore movies, things like that. And so I

would go there and I would buy a new car movie every month and American graffiti was one of those

I got. And I just like could not believe I had waited that long to see that movie.

It lost me an idea to flood.

Yeah. I love that. What's that 58 Impala in there, right? That's a weird year Impala.

58. Yeah. It's still, somebody still has it. Like it's still a car that somebody has.

I don't think it's like, I don't think it's the coolest car in the world, but

58s are just quirky enough to where they're, no matter what you do with them,

they're kind of ugly, but still kind of cool to me. Right. I definitely had a whole John

Milner phase where I was like cuffing my sleeves up, you know?

Yeah. Not everybody.

I ain't nobody dark.

You, uh, did you ever get into bullet?

Remember, I don't, I probably watched it maybe once or twice and it's never,

it was just never one that grabbed me. Honestly, one that grabbed me more as a kid was Cobra,

just because of the car. I think Stallone's a fucking weirdo, but

I don't know if I've seen that.

You know, that car was just crazy looking in that show and he's launching it and

chopping her pretty cool.

Yeah. Cause my dad had that 67 forest green fastback bullet was kind of like in our house.

So that's a 68, but you know what I mean? It was highly similar and the like 25 minute car chase.

Yeah. I just, I just never won. I agree. I should probably watch it again. I guess

there's some cars, some car movies that hold up yet. Like I think gone in 60 seconds still

holds up. You know, it's like really dated to some concern, but it still holds up as far as

the car movie, you know, they're showing the cars. It's more of like a showcase of the cars,

just as much as it is acting, which is cool. But, uh, have you watched that new,

that new F1 movie at all yet? Or no, I haven't watched it. I want to go somewhere in the

movie theater and see it. I actually looked for it this morning while I was drinking coffee

and it's out for rent. Like you can rent $20 and I could have streamed it or whatever. And I,

I wasn't that committed this morning to it, but I do want to see it for sure.

I mean, if they had in the theater, I don't know if they have in the theater in

Marshall here or not, but I want to see in the theater. I thought that'd be really,

really cool to see in the theater just because it's car movie and it's probably going to be

super loud and awesome. It made me really love, I imagine you want to get all those sounds

like surrounding you. Yeah, I got the, uh, in the shop here, I have 15 inch, uh, 1,000 watt

speakers. So when I turn the movie on, sometimes if I'm here by myself like Ford versus Ferrari,

it's cranked up and it's, the sounds are awesome. I mean, when that GT40 is pushing

against the Ferrari and they got both the sounds coming out, it's like, yeah, this is rad.

I personally like where he makes Henry Ford the third or whatever cry in the car.

Yeah. I like to use the, uh, the little red folder in the movie, like as an analogy for people.

So they realized that just because a lot of people are touching your car doesn't mean that's

a good thing. Right. Like, you know, it's not necessarily just related to like people touching

your car, but like you're too many middlemen is not, not, is never a great thing. So

it's true. I don't know.

So I was digging into, um, about a year ago, we went to Ribbon Mountain to just a hike around

and it's a state park in central Wisconsin. Um, that's really, really awesome trails to hike

around. If you're anywhere from like mediocre to, uh, just really black top trails, uh, for hiking

as far as that goes, but there's a, there was a sign up there and it said something about race

in 57 that went a hill climb up the mountain. And I took a picture of it and I thought it's

pretty cool. It was a picture of, uh, uh, Ferrari Monza and the, uh, supposedly this is one of

the cars that race up the hill. So I did a little digging, uh, as far as like yesterday and

this morning, I just kind of want to dig a little more and learn a little more so you can

maybe share on here. And it is really super interesting. So there's a list of cars,

the list of cars as far as like what actually raced is pretty interesting. They have modified

and production cars that had, uh, a Ferrari Jaguar Lotus, uh, production Corvette production

Healy and ace Bristol. I don't know what an ace Bristol is. You know what that is?

I've heard of a Bristol before. I don't know. They're like a little sports guy and there's a Porsche

and an L. It must be. I didn't look up these guys in particularly, um, except for the guy with

the Ferrari, but, um, and then doing a little bit more digging on it. It was, uh, they supposedly

Carol Shelby was scheduled to be racing there as well, but had mechanical issues,

which is really, really crazy. I think that's pretty nuts that Carol Shelby was supposed

to be in Wasaw, Wisconsin to go race up a hill. Right. And at that time he would have,

and then he would have been racing, uh, what does this say? Uh, Ferrari 375 GP was what,

was what he was racing and hill climbing, uh, in hill climb races in 57. So it's interesting

that he was a race. I didn't know he would race that many Ferraris. Um, but I think

it just kind of depended on the race he was in. Um, but that's really, really

neat racing a Ferrari. Ferrari's a red mountain. It's fairly, they all got him. Like there's

three crashes. People are getting taken away on stretchers. Like it just, I don't know if

they had multiple events or not. I didn't have a dug that far, but it's, it had to just be

a show to a certain extent. It's kind of a Healy. Interesting. It's kind of a Cobra looking thing.

Like you have a Healy and a Cobra. Oh, yeah. That's front engine, right? Yeah.

I'm not exactly 100% sure on this 327, uh, GP, but it looked like that was potentially a rear engine car.

I'm not really sure. I'm a red engine car. I'm not sure. Back in 57. I'm going to go

357. No, I mean, you said that was 1957.

Well, 1957. Yes. Sorry. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's pretty neat.

Yeah. So even a production Corvette, that was probably just like a brand new V8 Corvette,

because that would have been, you know, they came out with V8s in 55. So I'm assuming it was

probably a pretty hot V8 Corvette. And the view kind of is probably the only V8 in the whole

bunch there. And that's, depending on what the Ferrari had. I think some of the Ferraris were

running V8s back then. But I'm not really entirely a car guy to know. Me neither. I think I kind of,

I mean, digging into this, it's like, it almost makes me want a vinyl Ferrari or something.

Have a, make a Ferrari inspired car or something like that. It's really,

I've always wanted a Ferrari. I think we talked about that. But this stuff is really

making me nerd out about local car history stuff. It's really cool.

Yeah. I've always wanted to do like a 308 or something like that. I think that

if you slammed one and did some light tweaks to it, maybe put a reliable engine,

it'd be a really sweet car. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm all about having something that just,

I mean, the whole idea of Ferraris were just better handling,

really beautiful car. And that's, that's everything. They've been doing it a long time.

Have you, what was that movie? There was, it was about like Michael Schumacher and I think,

and then one other guy, and there were two F1 guys and they were battling it out. It was all

about the rivalry of the two guys. And the one got, the one was a German guy,

got in an accident, all burnt up. Oh, I'm not sure. Oh, well, in one of those,

I feel like I'm up there. Oh, it's Nikki Lauda. And I think Michael Schumacher,

I think Nikki Lauda at one point, he goes to drive for Ferrari and he gets in the Ferrari,

he does a bunch of laps in the track and he comes back and he said,

you know, this is wrong with the car and it oversteers and this and that. And they're

like, you can't say that. This is a Ferrari. He's like, it's doesn't change that it oversteers or

whatever. It's pretty funny movie. They're going to get canceled for doing a bad Italian accent.

Is it a bad Italian accent? Or is it a bad impression?

Uh, that's funny. What about Smokey and the Bandit? Do you ever get into that one?

Well, my parents did, they watched it a bunch just because it was, you know,

the show to watch. It's all right. It wasn't like Bert, I mean, Bert Reynolds is

Bert, I mean, he's Bert Reynolds. It's weird, dude. Never really got into the car too much.

I don't know. I'm not really a huge muscle car fan. I mean, I can appreciate them. I mean,

I've been working on them that whole life. And I think a lot of the car, the classic car industry is,

you know, obviously pushed by a lot of the muscle car stuff. I don't know. I just never,

some of this, especially like the Trans Am stuff never really hit for me.

Do you think that the muscle cars industry being so influential is really the cars? Or do

you think it's like the age of the people with the most money? So like all the guys now,

let's say the people now that are, that have the kind of money to spend on the car industry were

probably young and influenced by them, you know, by the cars that came out at the time. And that'd

be like the muscle cars. And then, you know, obviously they tell their kids, I'm a victim

to that, you know, do you think it's that? Or do you think that they were that

influential of a car just in general?

Well, I think, I think influence of the car at the time it came out. You know,

if there's a reason they're called muscle cars, the cars previous to them didn't have the power

they did. So it's like it's a generational thing combined with the cars coming out at that

time. So what I mean by generational is like, you have mercs that were built in the 90s by guys

that wanted them in their height when they were in high school. And they have like this 90s tweak

to them. Because that's when they were popular. That's when the guys in high school had them

had money. So by generational, I mean, like, they're going to the cars will always go through

phases depending on nostalgia. And when you got your license, the cars you remember back

then what you what inspired, you know, what what car that you really fell in love with.

And then there's also when those cars came out and how they just kicked ass as far as

the previous 10 years of cars and behind them, like they walked all over them. So you combine

those two together and boy, that's like some of the best automobiles you could say had ever

been made. I mean, then 10 years later, they're terrible. Right. Again, but I don't know.

That kind of makes me so it's it's weird.

Going makes me realize that, you know, like the there's the big boom of 90s Japanese cars.

And then if you think about how old we were, you know, those were pretty dude,

I seen a I seen a 90 CRX yesterday, like cherry. I'm like, dude, that's like 15 20, come on.

Yeah, isn't that crazy?

That's crazy.

My brother painted a CRX and had two friends of CRX is when I was probably, I don't know,

12, 13 years old. So I was around those a lot.

And they were pretty quirky, cool little cars. And he had an Integra and then like,

you know, I got into the 240 sx's. Thankfully, I got into rural drive stuff at least. But

yeah, it's amazing. They really use that have gone up and down on the 90s JDM stuff right now.

Kind of the muscle car of our era.

Yeah, I mean, there's even the muscle cars of our era. You could even consider like

the talent Eclipse, you know, like the all wheel drive turbo six speed versions. Those things were

freaking rocket ships, you know, for in the early 90s or mid 90s and stuff. Those things are

crazy fast with the stealth shit like that. Yeah, that was just obtainable fast cars,

I think, you know, yeah, I had a 90 you also buy a callus for

boo. I had a 91 talent TSI boost was turned up on it. When we worked together for a little while,

I got it in a trade deal. I traded a Kawasaki ZX7 that I did like a full frame off restoration.

I'm like started with a sandblasted frame and read it an old crash race but race bike.

And then I traded that bike for the talent plus the guy gave me, I don't know, 1500 bucks or something

like that. And that thing was pretty wicked talent TSI all wheel drive and had the boost turned up to

like 21 or something like that. It was pretty rowdy. It was a rocket ship in the snow because

it would just you just point it and shoot, you know what I mean, just slam throttle and

point they would have, they would pull you in that direction. But yeah,

got a funny story about that car. I, when the guy wanted to trade it to me, I hadn't,

I had recently had a kid. So I wasn't really riding the bike a lot just because he wanted to

be home. And I took the earth. So the guy, he wanted to bring the talent over for me to

see it. And I said, you know what, my wife goes to work, I don't know if it was seven or

eight or something like that. I said, bring it over before she goes to work. So she can take a

look at it and decide. And so he had pulled the car had given me keys to it. We're talking in the

garage. She comes walking out into Paris scrubs, getting ready for work. And I was like, Hey,

you want to check out the car? And she's like, Sure, I just got a little bit of time. I tossed

her the keys to it and they kind of gave me a funny look. And she hops in it manual backs

it out of the driveway onto the county road. And her tactic with cars is she doesn't want to be,

she doesn't want to choke a car off and just like, you know, the first time she drives it.

So she just mashed the throttle and dumped the clutch out of it. All wheel drive burnout

down the road hits second gear, squawks them in second goes tearing off. Both these dudes

are in my garage looking at me like, what just happened? And, and then, you know,

a couple of minutes goes by. And she comes rolling in, she gets out, shuts the car off,

tosses me the keys, she goes, it's fine up to you gets in her Pontiac Aztec and then leaves for work.

That's really good. That's really good.

And then I was like, well, I'm going to talk to her later. I'll get back to you.

Nice. But that one ended up like words.

They were confused at first because I was tossing my wife's keys to a manual.

Apparently girls can't drive stick. They talked about that story more than you did.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then with that car, the reason I quit driving it, I was driving home.

It was probably shortly after we started working together. It's probably you don't remember it.

But I was driving home one day. Sure. 35 mile driver, whatever. And going down,

remember the name of that highway that from whatever to towards Mozane. And I was driving on

the road. 153? Yeah, 153. And the seal went out in the turbo. And it sucked all the oil

out of the engine and shoved it on the intake and seized the engine doing 70 miles an hour,

locked up all four tires. But holy shit. Yeah. So I got it towed home. I just kind of like

clutched in and put it in neutral and rolled into a cabinet making places parking lot. And

I called a friend and he showed up with a trailer towed at home. I put it up on Craigslist and

a guy picked it up the next day for, I don't know, 6, 800 bucks for a parts car.

I'm sure. I mean, even if you got a motor to just plop in it, you know, easy peasy to a certain

extent, you know, right? Yeah, transmission, all wheel drive, all the, I think maybe he had a

front wheel drive car and he wanted the all wheel drive set up. Sure. Yeah. So they were cool.

That'd be worth it. You know, if anybody's taking those cars and just take the front shafts

though, they'd be a crazy cool thing to do. Oh, make a real drive one. I'm sure. Yeah.

I don't know. Actually, I don't know how the diff would sound so much.

I don't know how those transmission, those trains actually should go.

They might not actually spin the rear. The front is open.

I don't know. Have to look into that. I've never actually seen it. Drift,

Talon, but actually there was, they do that with Evos. They drift Evos and like in Tokyo drift and

they're obviously pull the front shafts on those.

So it's got to be possible.

I've seen that. Oh, one more is going on. I've seen the, that Matt Fields,

C8 drift car that drift, the drift Corvette at the PRI this last December, whatever it was.

Holy cow dude. That thing is bananas. And then watching videos after he got it like dialed in and

rolling down the road. That thing is crazy. Can't imagine throwing an ass around with a motor in

it. You know, crazy. Yeah. Driving fear was in the winter. I got, I got a feel for how

the balance is very different. I'm doing that with the weight in the back.

You can call it, oh yeah. You can call it 50, 50 weight distribution, all you want.

It does not feel like it when that starts sliding.

That should be like a song title or something. Fiero in the winter.

All right. Let me grab the guitar. We'll get going on it.

That's a good one. I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. Like that's a good one to be a banger.

I'm always saying that at work. Somebody will say something and I'll go,

that's a country song right there.

Oh hell yeah. I like redoing lyrics to country songs. Like that's what they should have wrote,

you know, saying along to that and freaking my wife out. It's pretty good stuff.

Everybody likes doing that.

What's up with this, I want to say 57 behind you. I've seen that in the background of a lot of

pictures before. Yeah. So we did, it was a, I was in a car club with a guy and him and his wife,

they have since, I mean the car club guys had kind of split up for a while.

And after we started the business, they had this 57 that they wanted to do some stuff with.

Mainly it was, they had a motor that they wanted to put in it. It was just like a motor replacement

stuff. And I was basically had a guy come in, had farmed some of the stuff out the

mechanically, you know, we had the new motor that we were going to put in, found out the

new motor they brought for it was had the wrong bolt pattern. So we ended up opting

to rebuild it. A lot of it kind of just snowballed into, hey, while we're doing

this, let's do this, while we're doing this, let's do that. So we put new floor pan, front

floor pans in it, repainted the dash, repainted the engine bay, the engine is the same, is like

the teal color. So they kind of wanted to do some color matching stuff. The car actually has

a really, really, really cool history. It was originally bought on an Air Force base,

a military base. It still has a sticker on the front bumper. And they actually know the

name. I think his last name was Vernon or they named the car Vern after the guy that

drove it on the Air Force base and actually has aviation seatbelts in it as well. It's really,

really neat. That's cool. But we so the motors rebuilds, it's all it's ready to we're

basically waiting on interior guys to get the B pillar because it's a four door.

It's a 150 model. So it's actually a 57 with 55 side trim. So it's kind of quirky,

neat that way. But it's when you buy aftermarket stuff for it's not necessarily made specifically

for this model. So some of the interior stuff had to be sewn together. I have another local guy

that does some interior work and metal shaping actually do some of the work on the interior.

He's going to get the headliner in it. So we got to get the B pillar stuff put in,

wind lace, headliner, then the front, then the glass. And then we're going to sat and clear the

whole outside. I was kind of waiting for a kind of one or some of that stuff to be last. We're

going to pinstripe it sat and clear the outside just because so it has the cohesive

patina that sheen, whatever to it. It's definitely a cool car. It's just

waiting on the next guy because I'm not doing interior work. It's not anything I can do

efficiently. Right. It's got a really sweet patina to it. It looks always good as like a contrast

piece in your shop. Yeah, I mean, to me, some of the patina stuff, the patina on this is,

I don't necessarily know if it's, I don't think it's some of it's real, some of it's like kind

of blended into other stuff. But even some of these higher end cars or people are building,

they're leaving the outside patina and everything underneath being really nice and fresh. And that's

kind of the vibe this is going to have. So everything brand new and the interior,

it's all the teal and black interior. It's going to look really snazzy. And it'll actually

match the engine and everything under the hood too, which is really cool. So it's got its own

vibe. She's absolutely in love with this car. I think she's got a purse that matches it. And

sometimes she has her dog painted the same color. Like it's a poodle thing. So yeah,

she's very, very cool customers. Hmm. Now I'm wondering if I can start a dog painting business.

That's okay. Well, the groomer, you know, the grooming, it gets like,

they, I think they live in the city, the Fox Valley area, you know, so I think they can,

you can pretty much get whatever you want as far as grooming and stuff like that.

Yeah, I do think there's money in it, dude. That that's a one 15 that because I,

from the side pictures I've seen of the car, I just at a glance thought it was a 55,

but when I was talking to you and I see the front bumper, I'm like, that's 57. So that's why

I was kind of questioning when I said most community says that it's the front end and

then the fin, the peak fin on the back that throws everybody and I'm like, wait a minute,

this is a 57. I'm like, yeah, it's, it's a 57 all day. Just it's like leftovers. I don't know,

I literally think it's leftover stuff that GM had. We have all this stuff. What are we going to do with

it? You know, unless it was like a three year plan to try five stuff, like this is what we're

going to do to make it like cohesive kind of speaking tri-fives. We're to just know that

there's, oh, sorry. Speaking tri-fives, what is your, what would you say is the best year?

Wow, that's hard because I really like Gasser 55s. I really love slam tri-fives in every variety.

55. 55 and 56. I like that the 56 is like a little less common, it seems.

Yeah, for me, it would go 55, 56, 57. 57's like, I like them, but when I was growing up, it was

almost like everybody's like, you gotta have a Mustang or 57 Chevy. To me, it was almost like

too iconic. Yeah, to me, yeah. I can see that. That's kind of why I like the 56.

They've got the vibe, but just a slight difference. To me, the 56 is like the inspiration for the

Euro taillight craze in 2000. I'm not, I just don't like the taillights. They just,

they literally remind me of Euro taillights. I don't like them.

When I was doing the Tundra and I was getting all the fiberglass panels for it,

so it swapped it, it's an O2 and it swapped it to 2020 headlights, tail lights. And when I was

buying lights for the fiberglass kit, I'm like, I want to get something that looks good,

but I don't want to end up with something that is Euro taillights in 10 years. I would

literally say that to people. Like you saw it everywhere. It's so awful.

Yeah, you'll have that. That's, but that's what I think of 56 taillights, man. That's it.

Yeah, I guess it looks like Euro taillights.

Not for me. I mean, it's easy. You just put different taillights on it, right?

Easy peasy. Just,

just put some bullet Cadillac taillights on it. That fixes everything.

Yeah, and have them stick out so you're catching your knee with them and shit.

Oh, I was thinking French amines, so they were just like sticking out this far.

Yeah. See, even that French stuff, some of that stuff is like, it feel like is dated.

You know, something when you move your taillight in straight three inches, like who is,

what are you replicating when you did that? You know, that is, it's just something you

bought from Speedway. It looks like, you know, some of that stuff is really,

it looks worse than if you would have just left it stop to me.

I could agree with you.

It's just my opinion.

I would argue with you if it's anything Bill Hines did, then I'm okay with it.

Yeah, he was, he made some sexy taillights. That's for sure. Like he did some crazy stuff.

I BS with his grandson every once in a while on Instagram.

He's a cool dude. He's still got a bunch of his cars, still takes him to shows and stuff.

He's still, he's got a shop on the side of his house and yeah, he's still,

he's still got like the bat wing or the black shoebox with the big, the big tail fins and

stuff. And it's pretty sweet. I don't know. I love Bill Hines since the first time I

saw him on Monster Garage when they did that. I think they had Winfield, Bill Hines.

I'm trying to think of who else was on that, but they did that 55.

Chevy and they slammed.

No, I think it was, I think, I think it was pre 55. I think it was a 52,

three, somewhere or 40, 49 to 54 or somewhere in there. I can't remember exactly what it was,

because I think Jesse.

Yeah. And they, they like chopped and channeled and actually that was kind of a first

exposure to a lot of those terms for me as a kid watching Monster Garage.

Same exact thing. Yep. Even being exposed to who those guys were, it was

really, really eye-opening and it was cool that he brought in people of that caliber

in their fields, which I thought was really cool. But I mean, when they did that custom car,

they brought in all those heavy hitter custom car culture guys, man, those guys that,

that literally drew, they put together what custom cars were. And then even they did

a mini truck one and they had a bunch of, it was a little cheesy, but they had like

the biggest mini truck guys in the country come out and like help throw this truck

together. So it wasn't, it was cheesy show, but that he still brought in, I think he tried to make

it as cool as he could and still keep it a TV show that Discovery would put on TV, you know.

I imagine just as I've aged and realized that all these guys are just guys,

I imagine a lot of that was Jesse doing, meeting people that he always wanted to meet

and work with. I'm sure he was kind of doing that. He was geeking over it as much as we

were. Oh, why wouldn't you? That'd be my first angle. Right.

Self gratification. Right.

Yeah. I always think from Monster Garage. I don't know that one. And then I think of the Mustang

lawnmower. Yeah. I remember there was a golf ball, like a golf ball picker upper thing.

I don't, like, I don't even know if it worked. It was, there's some really dumb stuff.

So let's say right now, somebody came to you and said you had to build something really quirky

and dumb, but you wanted to bring in, like, some crazy builder to help you or do the work. Like,

who would you pick? I know who I'm picking. That's probably the same person you're

thinking of right now. Yeah, I don't know. I have a couple of people.

I like two guys that are like my right really high upgrade, at least as far as like what I'm

seeing on Instagram and stuff. I think we're both thinking the same guy. I'm trying to decide

if that's because of what I'm into right now and what I'm like building right now.

But I would say as far as somebody who I would want to absorb a lot from right now,

it's obviously Morgan Clark. Yeah, for sure. The guy seems like really, really humble,

but still really, really talented. And then it's that's for a lot of guys that I mean,

a lot of guys I followed trying to try and use the Instagram as more of an inspirational tool

than versus like, I mean, it is also advertising for the business. But for me, if I don't have

inspiration, the business is it's always like inspiration business. It's not necessarily

secondary, but without the inspiration of working on these cars and doing better every day.

When the business is just a result of that inspiration to me. I'm calling it Instagram from

now on. Does that make sense? What's that? I'm going to call it. Inspirogram? Inspigram.

Inspigram.

You know, on the line, on the line.

Yeah. So who are you thinking? Morgan Clark and who?

Rob Aida, man. Rob Aida. That guy makes some crazy stuff. He's doing a,

what is that future liner? And they're like totally restoring it back to what it was in the

late 30s. And have like a bubble windshield. The cars that guy makes, he's doing a Jaguar

that's chopped and then is totally restyled. I don't know what they have. They were doing a Vect,

a Corvette. I thought it was a, it was like a C2 and the 3D printed molds to reshape

some panels for the back. So it was like, instead of the back panel, you know,

what the tail lights coming off of it, it was like this, you know, it was even,

it was like more exaggerated. All the lines they were doing, like they were rebuilding all the panels,

but they were using molds from 3D printers. And then he's, he's got one of those figure

3D CNC metal shaping machines. So they're getting deep into that stuff. Like everything I see from

the guy is just like pure inspiration for where the direction I would love to go is just

doing the quirky, weird, like nerdy, nerdy, nerdy stuff.

Plus the Merc that he did, I don't know if you've ever seen, have you ever seen that Merc that he

did with the front skirts? I don't think so. You need to look up that Merc. It is absolutely a

life-changing car that I've seen from this guy. I would never thought that a 40s car could be

a 40s Ford Mercury, whatever it's a Ford could be at the level of

I don't even know. You're, I mean, you're like concourse, telegants sitting next to

some crazy expensive cars and this thing almost outshines them. It's bananas. The front

skirts steer with the tires as it turns. I mean, the bottom side is just as beautiful as the

side. It's got like just the, I mean, it's so over the top in every direction.

And I mean, he's got some crazy stories about that on Instagram. He flew out with the

taillight bezels somewhere and the airline lost his taillight bezels or lost his,

so he had to remake the taillight bezels and kind of like everything. There's always

bumps in the road, but watching him belt some stuff is, and he has a connection with the

Tucker family. I really love Tucker cars. Speaking of car movies, that's one that I never really

hear is the movie Tucker. That's like one of my favorite car movies. If you've never dug

into Tucker's, they had one at Iowa probably five or six years ago. They're very, very cool.

I think they only made four, they've made 49 or 48 or whatever, 50 of them, something like that,

to fulfill some government contract bull crap that they had going on. I can't remember exactly

what, but the car or Tucker is very, very good. If you've never seen it, it's a true story.

You got pushed out by the big three. Pretty cool. I mean, not cool, but it's a good movie.

I've never seen the movie. I do actually remember the, we were there the year of

Viola that was like the Tucker year where they had the big, had the Tucker in the middle of the tent

and all that. Was it in the tent or in the building? But yeah, I remember going and checking it out.

Well, it depends on when you were there because we were there, we camp, I think we camped there

that weekend or we camped there one night that weekend and we wanted to see it. We were

walking around it was after I was like six, I was probably seven or eight o'clock at night,

and everybody kind of walks in on the sweat meter area and stuff. And they don't

believe all those cars underneath the tent, especially that car. I think it was, they

valued it at like 1.2 or something like that at that time. So they were trying to look at the car

and there's a garage door open and then you can see the car in there. Like, oh, we're going to

go walk in there and the guy with a pistol comes walking out. He's like, what do you guys want?

Well, we just want to see the car. Like, don't get too close. You can look at it though.

Okay. But yeah, we got to talk to the owner of the, I think that in the next day or

something like that, he was a one of two owners of the car. So some of these cars that get

expensive get interesting because, you know, it's not like a museum will own part of it or,

you know, a couple of people will own it. That's weird stuff. Anyway, it's talkers though,

but watch that movie. It's really good. I think Jeff Bridges is in it.

Yeah, dude, it's a really good movie for sure. Everybody watch talker. We watched it in

Hikeschool. School Billy. I'll have to add it to the list. Iola and like car shows and swap meets,

because we actually, we would go to Iola really for the swap meet just because I just love walking

around and looking like at all the, all of that. And Iola fading away was one of the things that

pushed us to move out of Wisconsin because like that was one of our big events for the years.

We had to go to Iola and as it just every year got sadder and sadder and sadder, it just

kind of got to the point where a couple other things happened where like there's just nothing

keeping us here anymore. From a car builder standpoint, there is a couple of people that

show vehicles there. But I mean, you used to see, I remember seeing Chip Foos wasn't there,

but he had a car that he built there. Ring brothers used to be there. There's a shop that has a

little spot like a spot on the grounds there that they do like chops when the show was happening,

but it's not, not like it used to be there were builders that would bring cars and huge,

huge trailers and stuff. It used to be big, like, you know, a good guy's show was,

but now it's turned into a little more of a glamorized swap meet that has been, like you say,

has been fading. You can't, I think in the car corral, they used to have 600 spaces

and they're bragging that they sold out, but they decreased the number of spaces to 300.

So there's all kinds where they say that they're doing great. But at the same time,

when you walk around, it's really, some of it is exactly the same. Some of the corners of the

swap meet, you probably recognize people exactly the same, but then you walk in

some areas and there's a whole row gone and it's a blacktop road. And you go in some other areas

and there's no vendors in like a gigantic area. There's just a big, just, you know, just

field. So it's, it's weird. And you know, it's not as concentrated with car parts.

I don't know if you've ever, did you ever go to Jefferson when you were lived up here? I'm sure

you did. I didn't go to Jefferson. Nope. Never made that one. So Jefferson is actually,

as a, from a swap meet perspective, I heard that you have to have so much percentage of

automotive, automobilia, I guess you'd say, on your spot. The concentration of

car parts on the swap area spot is like probably five to 10x depending on the swap spot

from Jefferson versus Iowa. Iowa is like, almost a joke in comparison to some of the

swap spots at Jefferson, but then the swap at Jefferson is also smaller.

So it's, it's a, that was just my perspective anyways. There's definitely a lot more car parts

at Jefferson, but it's, it's just, it's not as big, not nearly the amount of money rolling around.

And the car show is not necessarily, I mean, the day we were there, I don't think there

were any show cars there. Yeah. But at Jefferson, do you ever get to hear, come get your famous

Iowa chicken dinner over the radio all day long?

Good stuff. Yeah, we always have a lot more food options there though now.

We always had to get the, the chocolate shakes or chocolate malts and then the cheese curds. So

then you fill your stomach full of dairy and walk around in the hot sun in July.

Yeah. Meat sweat the whole time. Good times.

Yeah. Last year, last year we had the health or we had, we hired some of the Boy Scouts to help us

haul out this auto sign. And that was, it was, we were like, we're going to hire somebody

I have to lift this. And then this kid is like sweating. He's like having a really hard time.

I'm like, oh, I'll help you out. He's like, no, no, no, I don't need any help.

Dude, like we didn't want to go yet. We're not even like, we're not, we weren't even down like one

swap below down a lane and he was dying already. We got a whole long ways to go here.

Hey, whatever. It's a good story. He's older.

Right.

Looks to be all signs.

Yeah. Yeah. So what are you doing this next week? You even put them upper control arms together

and you're taking a day off or what? Taking a day off from your fucking hot sun?

Being in the 100 degree weather.

Oh, if I take a day off, I'll still be working in the heat. So it doesn't really matter.

Do you have like a ace unit in your little garage there or some shit?

No. This is hot, bro. Just get used to it.

You can't, you can't figure it out, can you?

No, I was, I was sitting in the sun yesterday and it was like, I think it just creeped up

on 80 degrees and I was, I'm a little, you probably, I don't know if you can tell

or not. I'm sunburned and sweaty yesterday. 80 degrees and I'm dying. I mean, that's not normal.

It's just because it's been like very cold the last month.

Yeah. Just for context, I was texting Quentin this week and sent him a picture of the

thermometer inside my shop at work and it was over, it was at, it was like 100 degrees

and I think it was a 1pm, 2pm, something like that here. But work has a weird, not slow,

but this is the time of year where some of this stuff kind of tapers off business-wise,

like sales and I've been just taking care of a lot of things in the shop, organizing and

training people and doing some stuff like that. But I'm thinking, I talked to the owner

Friday about, so if we're slow, I've got a bunch of work to do on my truck that I've

been just not dedicating enough time to. So I'll just take a day or three off and

do a bunch of truck fabrication because I ordered some, I got some wheels coming for the truck

and I want to time it out. So I get the suspension, I want to take some videos of the truck.

I want to have everything ready. I want to jack it up in the air. I want to do the suspension,

do the wheels, do all the decals on the side of the truck so it like kind of goes up.

Like a kind of stock pre-runner looking thing and then comes down, bead locks, full livery,

you know what I mean? I just feel like it'll be a cooler transformation, especially for

YouTube videos. You can just have more visual impact. Plus, I got to get some videos of the

the droop changing with the new suspension because I'm going to be going from like

eight inches of travel to 18 inches of travel or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot. You don't like actually jump that thing?

I 100% want to actually jump that thing. I've been trying to spot places out.

We really wanted to jump our Bronco when we got it, but now I just kind of want to

fragilely hand it off to the next owner.

Yeah. I was surprised you still have that thing.

So nobody wants to buy anything. Second hand stuff, like if it's a couple year old car,

it seems like it's almost impossible to get rid of. Somebody would rather go buy a new one.

That's what I'm seeing. Not me. But yeah, I can see that.

I was there once. That's why I bought the thing brand new apparently.

What a mistake. My dad said the same thing. He only bought one new vehicle in his life,

and he said he regretted it the day he left the parking lot with it.

Yep. Yeah, we were going to trade it in and we're offered.

That was last year, so it would have been a two-year-old vehicle.

Well, it was still two years old, I guess. So it was a year and a half old vehicle,

and they were offered us trade-in value a little over half of what we paid for it.

Wow.

No, thank you. Yes.

Yeah. Unfortunately, they have most people really in a bind. It's the whole system.

Nobody knows how to maintain cars anymore, and they can't really afford to pay shops to maintain

a 10-year-old vehicle. So everybody gets locked into you just buy a car with a warranty,

and you buy a car with a warranty, and you buy a car with a warranty, because as soon as that

warranty's up, it's going to need a lot of work because they don't last.

Never, too, though. I'm in the industry and I'm guilty of it.

Yeah, I get it.

To a certain extent. I just want to drop it off. Your problem. I have enough car problems.

Here's fix my car problem.

Yeah. I'm very picky when I buy used cars because I buy stuff that I know is going to be

as little maintenance as possible. Parts are cheap and it's easy to work on.

So my wife doesn't always love buying cars with me because we're not buying them

because this one looks nicer. It's the comfiest I'm buying it. Which engine does this model

have? And how many quarts of oil does that have?

18 hours of research into this.

Oh, 18 hours is way more than that.

That's fine.

My wife wanted a minivan a long time ago and I found her instead of a minivan because she's

like, I need third. I want third row. What if our kid has a lot of friends or something,

right? Or he's on a baseball team, right? I'm thinking mom stuff.

And I'm like, you're right. What if we do need third row? So then I found her a 1996

three-quarter ton suburban with a 454 and a turbo 400 four-wheel drive.

My baby.

Easy to work on. Couldn't be safer because you're going to drive through anything you hit.

Quarts are everywhere. You've seen all kinds of benefits.

It was great. She absolutely loved driving it because you're in a tank and you could pull

a house. So then we got rid of the suburban. She wanted a minivan again.

And I bought her that Passat wagon we had talked about previously. But I had to get

a Passat wagon with a 1.8 in it because I'm like, if I'm going to get a Volkswagen,

I've got to get the most common, reliable, cheap part, easy to work on Volkswagen.

So we had that and that ran forever. And I sold it for the same. I paid for it.

I think after six years or something like that.

And then now I finally got her a van. And I've got to tell you,

on the drive home with the Toyota Sienna minivan, I started falling in love with

minivans because I was like, this is like driving my living room around.

Yeah, four recliners.

18 cup holders.

The guy from Tokyo Drift, Sung Kang, that plays Han. Hey, on Instagram all the time,

people are like in interviews. I'm like, so what's your favorite car,

RX seven? And he always goes, no, my Toyota Sienna minivan. He doesn't even have kids,

but he's got a Sienna minivan. And he's like, never stop talking about it.

It was one that's in Marshfield. I don't know if it's Toyota Sienna or if it's the Chrysler

one that kind of looks like a Toyota Sienna. I don't know, but it's like dumped on rims.

So I think it's on air ride and has a roof rack. Like it's got to look, it's fucking cool.

Yeah, I've seen some really sweet odyssey's done up because you can run a lot of the same parts from,

you know, like the tune of cars on them because Honda's pretty good at having crossover there.

You ever see those like early town and countries, they shared like the same V six is a stealth.

So people are putting stealth setups on and you can get the town and country in a stick

shift. So you could get like a tone of country and bolt all the stealth stuff on it. And it was

like kicking Kramerro's asses and stuff. There's stuff on like that on YouTube, like from a long

time ago, it's pretty crazy. There actually was a not a grand caravan. There was in the boxy

Dodge caravans. They were like a little stubbier version of it. They had a manual turbo four

cylinder, I believe it was factory said turbo on the side of it.

Yeah. So the V six, the same style had a V six in it, but they didn't have a turbo. But so people

are putting the stealth setup on that V six. So having a V six stick shift turbo town and country.

Fuck yeah. We were I never expected today's conversation to go to minivans,

but if I was going to buy a minivan, the brand is going to surprise you.

It's Toyota. But Toyota supercharged Privia manual all will drive minivan. Have you ever

seen the Privius? They had a supercharged minivan manual all will drive.

It's shaped like an egg.

I don't know, man. We're going minivan. I think I'm going astro. Oh, well, that's not me.

That's a man. That's a van.

Okay. Well, that's a van. Not a minivan. I guess the difference between a minivan and a van.

It's got to be front wheel drive or what? I think frame. Is it frame? That's the rule.

Oh, astro van. Oh, astro van. Listen.

I don't know. I think so.

When I was trying to start, I thought it'd be a cool like

when I was trying to stuff a big block in the back of my Fiero, I was going to do astro van

spindles because they had like set up for big axles and stuff like that.

Oh, okay. So whatever happens, you don't have a Fiero anymore?

No Fieros at the moment. I don't know. It's just it seems like it's hard to find a good one anymore

that somebody doesn't want muscle car money for. It's weird. One sold on Barrett Jackson for

a decent amount of money, but it had like eight miles on it. And ever since then the value of

Fieros have gone like way up. So I don't have a Fiero right now. And actually, I think the last

Fiero I bought, my wife keeps reminding me of this. I bought a Fiero, I think an Appleton,

you know, one of these parking lot deals. It was a 88 formula Fiero, which to me is the

peak of Fieros. It's a notchback, not the fastback, but it has the 88 GT has the 88 GT skirts

and the bumpers, but it's a notchback. It's got all the running gear, big brakes, offset wheels

different in the front and the rear. It's just it's got a Lotus design suspension in the front.

Super cool car for a Pontiac Fiero. So last one I bought was a 88 Fiero formula and

I had some weird stuff happen with that. Like with the first week I had it, I got hit pulling

out of my driveway by an Infinity Q or Q 56, which if you know what that is, that is a huge

vehicle and he hit me in my Fiero because he was doing like 60 on the snow in a 45 and I pulled out

to go around the corner. I was just going to go out of my driveway and then hit the next road,

which is not, you didn't even have to straighten out. You could just basically cut diagonal

across and his headlights were way down and I was like, Oh, it's snowing. The speed limits

45. He won't be doing that fast and he just came through and hit me. I felt like an air hockey

puck sliding across and then I hit me and I slid into a van on the intersection, our FedEx van.

But thankfully the Fiero is plastic. So when I hit the FedEx van, I didn't even dent it because

everything just went burp. But so the FedEx guy actually ended up just leaving like the cops came

and whatever. And then while I was dealing with that, I get a call from a police officer

who I had a lot of history with from when I was a teenager that might, I don't know,

that might be a story worth telling. But I get a call from a police officer and he's inquiring

about the Fiero I bought. And I'm like, what's up with this? And he goes, Well, can you tell us

where you met the person that you got this Fiero? And he started asking a bunch of questions.

And I'm like, What is going on? I have a title. It's clean. What do you mean? And he's like,

Yeah. I guess I was just trying to get some answers out of you. The guy's got a warrant out

for some stuff. And we're trying to find him. And this is the only connection we've found so far

is you bought a car from him. And I was like, Oh, I don't really want to be the kind of guy

that's like buying cars and then snitching on people. So I didn't really I just told him

I was like, I don't know, I met him some parking lot in Appleton, which is true.

But I wasn't I wasn't trying to not help the police, but I was more so, you know,

snitches get stitches or whatever. I don't know.

Kind of got to wash your hands slowly back into the bush on that one.

You know, right? Yeah. So that was interesting. I ended up just having to pay

like a not following signs ticket for that accident or accident. And that was it.

But whatever. I think there was split fault on that one. But if you get hit in a Fiero,

you're like basically since it's a space frame chassis, it's like a, you know, a Corvette where

it's got you've got you've got basically a monocoque around you. So you're like completely

surrounded in sheet metal. And you've got a roll cage of sorts around you. So when I got hit,

there wasn't like crunching, which is that that QX 56 hit me and I didn't have traction.

And I just went and I slid off of them and then I spun and I smacked into the side of a FedEx fan.

And then I just drove to work right after. But so I had a really nice,

yeah, same car. I drove right to work after the after getting hit by two or hitting two cars.

But my really nice formula, Fiero formula was only really nice for like the first week

I owned it. I think it might have been the second day I had it.

Certainly.

What do you do?

So what happened to the one you're going to put? Did you,

didn't you have one with a big block knocked up in it or no?

Yeah. So I cut everything off from the fire, the rear firewall instead of bulkhead.

We call it a bulkhead, the rear firewall back. I cut everything off and then I welded in.

I did square tubing lower and square tubing upper for the frame rails. And then I had the,

it was actually a big black Cadillac, a 429 Cadillac. Does that sound right? 429.

I think it was a 429 Cadillac I had mounted in there. And I can't remember what transmission

I had found that was supposed to, like maybe it was like a Toronato setup that I was going to bolt

into it. And then I was going to do astro van knuckles or spindles on it so I could have the

big brakes and that. And I already, that car was an 85 and I had taken an 88 suspension and

retrofitted into there. It took some frame modification, stuff like that. But I did that

and then I had 14 inch Brembo cross drilled rotors in it, 4 piston calipers. So I was driving around

in like this tiny Miata sized car that had 14 inch brake rotors in the front and all that.

It was on its way to be a serious car but I don't know, life just got in the way and when

I moved I think I finally, I think I sold all the good stuff off of it and then I

may have scrapped it. I don't know. I got one. I sold nobody. Nobody did anything with it. I sold the

motor separate, sold the front suspension, sold the brakes and just went through and sold everything,

all the body panels. I had a bunch of rare 1980s fear accessories like there was like the roof

scoops that went over the roof for and they were supposed to be for induction but really

they were just for cooling. I had really like, you'd have to be a real geek to know what it is but

there was, in Canada there was a company that was taking Pontiac Fieros in 1987 and they took 38 of

them and they rebodied them, did a whole new interior and they sold them as an Entera Viper

but they spelled Viper R-E instead of E-R because it was like French Canadian or something.

So this Entera Viper, or Vipre or whatever you want to call it, they were actually selling

these in Pontiac dealerships in 1987 and I had an upholstery out of one of them.

So between parting the car out and selling that upholstery set up and selling the roof

scoops and I had like a whole cast aluminum holly dress-up kit so it was like a air cleaner cover,

valve covers, intake, all sorts of stuff for it. I sold all that, holly ram air intake set up for it.

I don't know, I actually made out good on the Fiero sales but.

Viper, that Viper thing that's pretty cool looking car.

It's kind of like a pan, it's almost like a Pantera styled Fiero.

Yeah exactly, that's what I'm seeing. It's like a cross between a Fiero and a Pantera at a kid.

Right, the reason I ended up with that upholstery kit from one of 38 cars was because

I got in touch with the guy, so everybody's seen V8 Fieros with small block shavies in them.

Yeah, I went to when Claire was the guy that had one.

Yeah, back in, I think it was 1984 right away, there was this Polish dude out of Illinois and

he got a Fiero and he wanted to put a small block in it so he made his own kit to fit

small block in the back of a Pantera Fiero and he sold the kit and he took out ads in

Hot Rod Magazine back in 1984. Basically new cars and he was selling V8 kits for him already

back then and he made a business out of just that all the way until retirement

and I think that was like seven or eight years ago, maybe closer to ten.

I went down to his shop, he was also doing like rebodies and things like that and obviously

with the times they moved into putting LS motors in them and they were doing turbo LS motors and

all sorts of crazy stuff, but he had one of the Interas there and it was for a customer that he

had done some really high-end Fieros for where there were like chop top Fieros, V8, wide body,

like all custom stuff and this guy picked up this Intera for his wife and they put a

5.3 in the back of it. It was a full 90s fourth gen Trans Am upholstery in it so they had the

Trans Am dashboard seats, door cards, they fit everything up like factory in it and then had

a custom upholstered white and black. It was pretty sweet but I saw on the Fiero forums back

in the day if that doesn't date this that they were having some problems with a painter for it

and because I like working on cool stuff I just messaged or I commented on the on the forum and

then on the thread and then I also messaged a guy and he ended up calling me and I said hey I'll

I'll drive down to I think it was in Beloit I said I'll drive down to Beloit and I'll paint this

thing you know if you guys get everything prepped I'll come down and just spray it

and they wanted to try coat Lexus white on it so I went down and drove down for the day

remember me doing that he sent me pictures of that and stuff I think that was a while ago wasn't it

yeah here's yours is that we said I think it was it was like seven to ten years ago it was shortly

after we worked together I think yeah so I went and did that and it was super cool car I sprayed

it all in one day I just brought one friend to help me out but they had everything like prepped

and laid out and they had the whole shop plastic and everything when I got there I just like packed

some ham and cheese and drove four hours to his shop worked all day and then drove four hours home

and then uh so that was pretty cool and then when they were I did that I didn't get any money

for it but I got to hang out and then we used to go to a Fiero show in Wisconsin Dells every

year and this guy was kind of like the king of the Fiero show because he was V8 Archie he

was like this this figurehead of Fieros for the entire existence of Fieros and so we just go down

and we got to hang out with all the people and network so it was worth it and just for something

fun to do um and then the owner of the car ended up messaging me and saying like um

you know he thanked me a bunch for helping out because I guess the shop was kind of at a stand

still and they weren't really pushing forward with it at that point at least in the you

know how customers get they feel like everything is waiting on the shop when maybe the shop was

waiting on the customer but uh yep I think he had put the interior for sale on the forum and I

messaged him and I was like hey what what do I have how do I make this happen and he goes you

know what you painted the car for me you helped out he goes if he goes the guys in the shop

they're really talented but they're kind of they're not the cleanest and he's like I'm

getting this car for my wife he's like would you go down and detail the car for me he's like

you just go down and detail it I'll give you the upholstery I was uh okay so I went down I spent

like half a day cleaning the car I'll wipe it everything down because I worked in a detail shop

I mean I don't know some people make a big deal out of detailing and maybe they're a lot better

than I am but to me it was just washing the car but cleaning the inside out putting a coat of

wax on stuff armor all you know um so I did that and then I got this really sweet interior and I

I think I sold sold it for 500 bucks or something like that for just like a handful of pieces that

were different from the fiero pieces but um it was to a friend so I didn't try to maximize maximize

my money but uh that was a pretty cool and then while I was there working on that car

I was drove my fiero formula down there and the guy that owned the shop

he had his two employees go outside and they swapped all the body panels that were cracked

from my accident without telling me they just went outside and swapped all the panels on my car

with replacements while I was working in the shop and when he retired um he was talking about

retiring when I was there and I think that's maybe why things were moving slower in the shop

he was trying to wind down but uh he was talking about all the parts in the shop and he didn't

really know what to do with him I was like well I hate to see something happen and he's like

hey he's like I'm gonna have to give him away or try to find somebody he's like some of the guys

that run the car club don't you know have space and you know they've got enough stuff and

this and that and so I ended up volunteering to basically take 20 something years of fiero

parts off of his shelf so I went down to the car trailer and just loaded my car trailer I got he

gave me an 88 fiero gt chassis and then like a whole ton of parts so just more stuff to offload

when I moved that was kind of a parts order camaro parts dots and parts and fiero parts were all

filling my basement in my yard does that fiero

does that fiero v8 kit was that made to go on like that four cylinder

um this isn't like a four cylinder manual transmission is that what it was meant to bolt

on to they did have them for that was our visa later on so in 84 they only had a four cylinder

and then in 85 they came out with the gt and the gt had v6 and so there was a

they they recommended you put it on the get reg transmission I can't remember get reg was

like a big they were a they were a stronger transmission and so you could get a five speed

manual because I think they only had a four speed in 1984 and then they went to five speeds

you could get a v6 five speed option so I think that's mainly where people

went and they have the kits for the automatics and stuff too

or I'm just the guy that I worked with an old singer he had a he's bragging about having a v8

uh v8 fiero that his dad put together and it must have been one of those kits that your buddies uh

that that guy you're talking about had so it was just like it was pretty stock you know other than

it having a v8 and it was a four cylinder so we were like oh yeah you gotta you know you

got a v8 but I don't think you can really use it like I don't know how those four cylinder

transmissions stood up to that you know 150 horse that the v8 put in it you know

I think that the I think the four speeds might have actually been like

there were they were they were actually a notable company that made them whether I don't remember

if the one of them was a month's year maybe the four speeds were also would get ragged but they

were they actually had a decent um transmission on some of the four cylinder models mine was a

four cylinder with the good manual so my my original fiero sure I think I had eight

four no wonder you got a tattoo on your leg

fucking nerd uh well uh the so in wisconsin there's the del's run they call it it's a fiero

show and um there'd be like you'd go there and they're the one year the first year we went

there was 92 feros in the parking lot it's kind of cool so like it was just one of our rituals we

had iola we had the fiero show like that was just part of our yearly plans we did it like a ritual

every year we got a nice place at the chula vista resort you know where the show was and

they had cool stuff though they had like um factory gm race feros the one year

that like they pulled out of the museum to bring and stuff like that so it was it was neat

you never go to the del's car show like the auto motion i never went to auto motion because it was a

week we'd go to the fiero one and i it and auto motion was either the week before or the week

after so it was like a lot of money spending for a broke kid to go to both

so yeah but that auto motion show is kind of taking a slide down shit mountain if you ask me

it used to be in the nose our parking lot used to be the whole parking lot like the whole parking

lot and since uh Mount Olympus took it over it's a fraction of what it was it's like

what it used to be but they're trying to monetize every portion of it to from what i can

see it's it's like when we tried to leave the parking lot for the Mount Olympus it took us

it was like an hour and 15 minutes and i'm like i'm i can see the exit it's just the people that go

to Mount Olympus for the water park are also sharing the same infrastructure to leave this place

and it's it was just a nightmare i'm glad the truck we were driving at the time didn't overheat

because there were things that were overheating it was crazy i never want to go to that show again

would you take the heavy half there

we did once that was that was one and done there's there every year you go there it

seemed like it's gotten worse and worse used to be able to like stop traffic people do burnouts

like it was good time you know people i'm sure it got out of hand to a certain extent but a lot

of it was just like guys doing small burnout here and there whatever um i used to go down there

with the mini truck club i was a part of and that was pretty nuts too is yeah the one hotel

that we took over like pretty much took over and it was like all mini trucks all air ride mini

truck stuff is pretty cool but and that was like in its heyday and drive around when play with

your suspension stuff and in traffic is like a good time take you one hour to get up and down

the strip but that was cruising with all old cars now you go there and you're dealing with like

you know traffic normal traffic uh and you can't get anywhere it's just i don't know

who and what caught on but it's just ruined the whole thing

hmm

Wisconsin had a ton of good people down in a lot of accidents

yeah i think we're talking about that hill climb thing earlier at rib mountain i think it'd be really

cool to either i know the state park that that's on top of the rib mountain is probably not going

to entertain the idea of a race particularly but if can you like imagine an event where like the

most expensive cars in the whole area just cruise and park and rid on the top of rib mountain

and like have like a almost like a hill climb memorial show or something like that i think that

would be very very cool maybe like try and get ferrari like like that you know i don't know

how a guy would go about getting you know i obviously think there's there's not enough going to be enough

room to have to just weed out people and i think it would start small and probably not with ferrari

but it would still be cool that for the idea of it you know anybody that's got any sort of

automotive enthusiasts is going to be you know at least semi-interested if you could get people

that have a little more history on it and have maybe some information at the show as far as like

who was there and maybe like blow up some pictures of some of the cars you know i think that'd be

like really really really cool i kind of want to make a like blow up a picture of the ferrari

the guy had and just have on my wall it's really the pictures really neat you can get a pretty high

depth picture of it on wine i feel like the hill climb at um rib mountain would be pretty short

yeah i think it is that they had uh in some of the information i read today they had it was

interesting how they categorized who won it was a very it was like a hundred-point deal and they had

like uh i think you had to get through there are three three zones or something i can't remember

exactly how i thought i'd have to read it again which i will but um yeah it was interesting

how how they actually bracketed how they who who won and how they won and i'm sure that's just a

bunch of guys on the side of the hill thinking well we should probably do this and this and this

you know i don't know because every hill is different so how do you you know they had to

have a some sort of a recipe there right you've ever been to pike speak i mean even the

carol was in that ring of those same people that's very very interesting i mean that that

stretches there i mean there's people here coming from chicago it sounds like uh chicago and uh mawaki

but i mean carol shelby wasn't from chicago and mawaki um so i mean the the the list of cars

in the country had to have been really small this is from what i'm seeing you know as far as like

being a hill climb and and at the time you imagine in 57 seeing a ferrari or alfa romeo

Wisconsin you know a port yeah what the hell you know that that would be and then like being

that apparently there was a uh they had grandstands but they also had spectators in all the way up

the hill and people crash and they said they're at the crashes they were like 1500 to 2000 people

just standing around looking at it that's pretty crazy yeah it was wild yeah i never heard of that

the whole time i live there i i didn't either until i went up to the you know they have a little uh

they have a little spot on one of their signs that has a picture of the ferrari manza and the

race car driver um but and it's just a little blurb about it so i just a little google search

kind of pulls up quite a bit of stuff but i want to do your chat gpt deal and try and

see if we can dig up some more stuff on it it said the lions club ran it so i would imagine

if a guy got a hold of a lions club and potentially some people that have been in the lions club for a

long time they would at least have some specifics about it because they do have really good record

keeping at places like that usually yeah yeah i mentioned that'd be a big event for them too

well i can it had to have been right but in some of the art they briefly mentioned

different races so i don't know if they had more than one race or not i

i really it was hard to dig in any farther than that one specific race because it

like i said it kind of sounded like a shit show like people are just crashing and stuff like

like it was a one and done event hmm speaking hillclimes have you ever been to pike speak

well no sir have nots i've been it up but i've seen pictures of me one of the

all right yeah i lived in colorado for four years and i lived in wyoming for a year so i mean

been up in a bit um but that has to be a long long hillclime just driving up it takes a long time

like i'm so i imagine obviously racing is going to go fast but it's a lot of turns it's a lot

of elevation like i'm thinking about like when it was gravel and the carbureted engines and

just trying to get them to run good for both i mean it's yeah i mean it's see i was just thinking

about it last night man like it doesn't matter how much horsepower i mean it to a certain extent

yeah horsepower is going to help you but if you can't get the traction to the ground you're going

uphill like that's that's a whole like it's just a different level of racing the hillclime

in a car on a road but you're still going uphill you know so you have it's a lot of there's just

different things that you could think of interesting i watch some jim kind of files or whatever

and they were talking about yeah ken block doing it and even that turbo fuel injected you know like

top technology mustang the uh junicorn or whatever even that had a lot of hard times with

the altitude and that's you know i mean just think of how much stuff is regulating that car

and i'll think of people doing it back in like the 40s

yeah that's pretty crazy i did see i thought i seen a picture of this guy that with the

the ferrari manza that was on red mountain it looked like he raced that on pikes on pikes

peak as well i imagine if you have that kind of car to me that this is like

right you want to race car it's a good way to get rid of money

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