Has The Porsche 911 Turbo Been a Worthy Flagship? — Carmudgeon w/ Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 215
About this episode
Celebrating 50 years of the Porsche 911 Turbo, Cammisa and Tam-Scott dive into the history and evolution of this iconic model. They discuss its performance, the unique characteristics of various generations, and why they personally prefer other variants over the Turbo. With insights from their experiences and a humorous take on the car's quirks, the episode balances nostalgia with critical analysis. Notable guests and anecdotes from the documentary on the Turbo add depth to the conversation, making it a rich exploration of this legendary sports car.
Porsche 911 Turbo
"...the Porsche 911 Turbo which is celebrating its 50th birthday. Is it December 2nd? Well, I no one knows the exact date..."
The Porsche 911 Turbo is a fast and powerful version of the Porsche 911, which is a famous sports car. It has a turbocharged engine that makes it quicker and more exciting to drive.
The Porsche 911 Turbo is a high-performance variant of the iconic 911 sports car, known for its turbocharged engine and distinctive styling. It has been a significant model in Porsche's lineup since its introduction in 1975, representing a blend of luxury and performance.
Porsche Turbo
"...just so we have a a grand Porsche Turbo celebration. Um, this is definitely a celebration of the turbo."
The Porsche Turbo is a special version of Porsche cars that uses a turbocharger to make the engine more powerful. It's famous for its speed and performance.
The Porsche Turbo refers to a high-performance variant of Porsche models, notably the 911, known for its turbocharged engine that enhances power and performance.
50 years of turbo
"...the documentary is a celebration of the 50 years of turbo."
This means that it's been 50 years since turbo engines were first used in cars, which has changed how fast and efficient cars can be.
This phrase refers to the milestone of 50 years since the introduction of turbocharged engines in automotive performance, particularly highlighting their impact on speed and efficiency.
Hagerty
"Hagerty is a insurance company by enthusiasts for enthusiasts. Um, and"
Hagerty is a company that provides insurance specifically for classic cars. They understand the needs of car lovers and offer special policies for older or unique vehicles.
Hagerty is a well-known insurance company that specializes in classic and collector cars. They offer coverage tailored to car enthusiasts, providing services that cater to the unique needs of vintage and specialty vehicles.
agreed value insurance
"One of which is uh and I think the most important thing from my perspective is that uh the this is agreed value insurance. Hagerty calls it guaranteed value and that is you engage in a conversation with your"
Agreed value insurance means that you and the insurance company decide how much your car is worth, and if something happens to it, you'll get that agreed amount back.
Agreed value insurance is a type of coverage where the insurer and the policyholder agree on the value of the vehicle at the time the policy is issued, ensuring that the owner receives that amount in the event of a total loss.
Volkswagen Scirocco
"...because I had to fight to keep the Shurocco. I did not have to fight to keep the E30 when I hit"
The Scirocco is a sporty car made by Volkswagen. It's known for being fun to drive and has a unique look that many people like.
The Volkswagen Scirocco is a sporty compact car that was produced by Volkswagen. Known for its distinctive design and performance, the Scirocco has a strong following among car enthusiasts.
BMW E30
"...to keep the Shurocco. I did not have to fight to keep the E30 when I hit"
The E30 is a model of the BMW 3 Series, which is a popular compact car. It's known for being fun to drive and has a classic design that many people love.
The BMW E30 refers to the second generation of the BMW 3 Series, produced from 1982 to 1994. It is highly regarded for its handling, performance, and classic styling, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
agreed value replacement cost insurance
"...if I did not have agreed value replacement cost insurance on it..."
This is a special type of car insurance where you and the insurance company agree on how much your car is worth. If your car gets damaged beyond repair, you get that agreed amount instead of a lower market value.
Agreed value replacement cost insurance is a type of insurance policy where the insurer and the policyholder agree on the value of the vehicle at the time the policy is taken out. This ensures that in the event of a total loss, the policyholder receives the agreed amount rather than the market value, which may be lower.
Mobil 1
"...in concert with Mobile One."
Mobil 1 is a brand of oil that helps keep car engines running smoothly. It's often used in fast cars because it works really well in tough conditions.
Mobil 1 is a brand of synthetic motor oil and automotive lubricants produced by ExxonMobil. It is widely used in high-performance vehicles and is known for its ability to protect engines under extreme conditions.
Porsche 911 GT3
"I would say no, it's the naturally aspirated GT3 that is actually the the high point, but that's m..."
naturally aspirated
"...I would say no, it's the naturally aspirated GT3 that is actually the the high point..."
Naturally aspirated means that the engine gets air from the atmosphere without any extra help from devices like turbochargers. This can make the car feel more responsive and connected to the driver.
Naturally aspirated refers to an engine that relies on atmospheric pressure alone to draw air into the combustion chamber, as opposed to using a turbocharger or supercharger. This type of engine typically delivers a more linear power delivery and is often favored by driving purists.
intercooler
"was an early uh Intercool 3.3. Yeah. Uh, this one was uh So, anyway, so more importantly, I thought, yeah, I'm happy I'm always happy to do research, happy to delve in."
An intercooler helps cool down the air that goes into the engine after it's been compressed by a turbo. Cooler air helps the engine perform better because it can burn more fuel efficiently.
An intercooler is a device used to cool the air compressed by a turbocharger or supercharger before it enters the engine. Cooler air is denser, allowing for more oxygen to be packed into the combustion chamber, which improves performance.
Porsche 911 Turbo S
"...review, a very quicky sort of review of the 992.2 Turbo S, which is the new one with electric turbos that's"
hybrid
"that's now a hybrid."
A hybrid car uses both a regular engine and an electric motor. This helps the car save fuel and produce less pollution while still being powerful.
A hybrid vehicle combines a traditional internal combustion engine with an electric motor, allowing for improved fuel efficiency and reduced emissions while maintaining performance.
generation
"So 930, which is the original >> 964, 993, 996, 997, 991, 992."
A generation is a version of a car model that comes out at a certain time. Each generation usually has improvements or changes compared to the last one.
In automotive terms, a generation refers to a specific version or iteration of a model, often marked by significant updates in design, technology, and performance.
GT2
"some pretty cool cars in there like GT2s..."
The GT2 is a super-fast version of the Porsche 911, built for racing and high performance. It has a stronger engine and is lighter than regular models, which helps it go faster.
The GT2 is a high-performance variant of the Porsche 911, designed for track enthusiasts. It features a more powerful engine and lightweight construction, making it one of the fastest versions of the 911.
horsepower
"260 horse."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. More horsepower means the car can go faster or do more work.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, typically used to describe the output of engines. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time.
Dodge Viper
"was so pretty. >> Yeah, you had Viper green metallic. >> Oh my god. I mean, it was just..."
Viper Green Metallic
"Oh my god. I mean, it was just like I'm not I did while you were in the bathroom"
Viper Green Metallic is a bright green color used on some sports cars. It's a flashy color that many people love because it makes the car look unique and exciting.
Viper Green Metallic is a vibrant paint color often associated with high-performance cars, particularly from brands like Porsche and Dodge. It's known for its eye-catching appearance and is a popular choice among car enthusiasts who want their vehicles to stand out.
Porsche 930
"the racing version of the 930 was the 935 which had a slightly different body on it..."
The Porsche 930 is a special version of the Porsche 911 that has a turbocharger. It was made from the mid-1970s to the late 1980s and is famous for being fast and having a unique look.
The Porsche 930 is the internal designation for the turbocharged variant of the Porsche 911 produced from 1975 to 1989. It was known for its distinctive wide body and powerful turbocharged engine, making it a significant model in Porsche's history.
Porsche 935
"the racing version of the 930 was the 935 which had a slightly different body on it..."
The Porsche 935 is a race car that was built from the Porsche 911. It was designed to be very fast and won many races in the late 1970s.
The Porsche 935 is a racing car based on the 911, specifically the 930 model, developed for Group 5 racing in the late 1970s. It featured significant modifications for aerodynamics and performance, making it one of the most successful race cars of its time.
Porsche Carrera RS
"true for ages and ages. And so what used to be Carrera RS is what is now GT3 effectively. And so that linea..."
Turbo Carrera
"the original Turbo was called the Turbo Carrera for that reason because they wanted to indicate that it was the highest performance car."
Turbo Carrera is a name used for a fast version of the Porsche 911. It shows that this car is one of the best in terms of performance.
The Turbo Carrera refers to the high-performance variant of the Porsche 911 Turbo, which was designed to signify its status as a top-tier performance model within the 911 lineup.
Porsche 356S
"used the Carrera name since they stopped making the 4 cam 356s. So normally 356s are single cam push rod motors..."
The Porsche 356 is an older sports car made by Porsche before the 911. It was known for being light and fun to drive, and it had different types of engines.
The Porsche 356 was the first production automobile by Porsche, known for its lightweight design and agile handling. It featured various engine configurations, including single cam and four cam options.
push rod
"hold on. You mean push rod? Yes. One total cam shaft, not one overhead."
A push rod is a metal rod that helps open and close the engine's valves. It connects the camshaft to the valves, allowing the engine to breathe properly.
A push rod is a component used in an internal combustion engine to transfer motion from the camshaft to the engine's valves. It plays a crucial role in the operation of overhead valve (OHV) engines.
camshaft
"One total cam shaft, not one overhead. Okay."
A camshaft is a part of the engine that helps open and close the valves. It makes sure the engine gets air and fuel at the right time.
The camshaft is a rotating shaft in an engine that controls the opening and closing of the engine's valves. It is essential for regulating the timing of the engine's intake and exhaust cycles.
roller bearings
"...this thing was super sophisticated and it was gear driven and like you know roller bearings."
Roller bearings are parts that help things move smoothly by reducing friction. They are used in many machines, including car engines, to make them work better.
Roller bearings are mechanical components that reduce friction between moving parts by using cylindrical rollers. They are commonly used in various applications, including engines, to improve efficiency and performance.
Porsche 904
"and a whole bunch of other race cars too like the 904 for example."
The Porsche 904 is a racing car from the 1960s. It's known for being very light and fast, making it great for racing.
The Porsche 904 is a lightweight sports car produced in the 1960s, known for its racing pedigree and distinctive fiberglass body. It was designed for competition and is highly regarded among collectors.
Carrera Panamericana
"And uh and it was named after the Carrera Panameana, the race in Mexico."
The Carrera Panamericana was a famous car race in Mexico that took place in the early 1950s. It was known for being very difficult and exciting, and it helped shape car racing as we know it today.
The Carrera Panamericana was a famous road race held in Mexico from 1950 to 1954. It was known for its challenging routes and high speeds, and it significantly influenced automotive culture and racing history.
Ford GT40
"the GT40 is running with 7 L. And for an event like Le Mans"
The GT40 is a famous race car made by Ford that won the Le Mans race several times in the 1960s.
The Ford GT40 is a high-performance sports car that was designed for endurance racing, famously winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans multiple times in the 1960s.
Porsche 917
"...s fast. So, they do a clean sheet car. That's the 917. It's a first 12cylinder Porsche. It's um maybe t..."
flat-12 engine
"Uh it's a horizontally opposed air cooled flat 12. Uh it's 4 1/2 L initially and uh they had some reliability issues initially..."
A flat-12 engine has 12 cylinders that are laid out flat, which helps the car be more stable and perform better. It's different from regular engines that have cylinders standing up.
A flat-12 engine is a type of engine configuration where 12 cylinders are arranged horizontally, allowing for a lower center of gravity and better weight distribution. This design is known for its smooth operation and unique sound.
Lola
"the races were dominated by Lola and McLaren"
Lola is a company that makes racing cars and has been successful in many types of racing competitions.
Lola is a British manufacturer of racing cars, known for producing competitive vehicles for various motorsport categories, including Formula 1 and sports car racing. The brand has a legacy of innovation and success in racing.
McLaren
"the races were dominated by Lola and McLaren"
McLaren is a company that makes fast sports cars and has a strong presence in car racing, especially in Formula 1.
McLaren is a British automotive manufacturer known for its high-performance sports cars and involvement in Formula 1 racing. The brand has a rich history in motorsport and is recognized for its engineering excellence.
Bugatti Veyron
"...his wasn't just holy [ __ ] fast this was Bugatti Veyron fast when compared to everything else on the road"
Lamborghini Countach
"...ed. Fastest car in America cuz we couldn't have a Countach which did 170 something."
Volkswagen Golf GTI
"... like, "You will not believe." Now, Anthony has a GTI, a Mark 7 GTI. Um he's had plenty he's"
Volkswagen Golf
"...rison, I think I would have an easier time in the Golf. Now, I'm familiar with a Mark 1 Volkswagen."
Porsche 928
"further. >> Worse than a 928 >> and say it's the absolute worst sports"
Mercedes-Benz Sclass
"[ __ ] S 320. I I it was it was tuned like it should be in a diesel S-Class. Starts in second unless you floor it."
Mercedes-Benz SL
"...a Mercedes or, you know, BMW. It's effectively an SL competitor with a shitty interior and a"
Porsche Gt3 Carrera
">> Easy to go fast. And that's the the core difference between a GT3/ Carrera RS and a Turbo. Everyone when the Turbo came"
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
">> R, which is a GT3 RS kind of um effectively. Um but yeah, no, Turbo ju..."
Nissan Gtr
"...think there's any car. So, I always sort of use a Nissan GTR as the benchmark for a car that I would take on"
Tesla Model
"..., right. So, you could get even more speed with a Tesla Model S Plaid, for example. But what I like about even ..."
Tesla Model S
"...t. So, you could get even more speed with a Tesla Model S Plaid, for example. But what I like about even ev..."
Lotus Elise
"as a daily driver than listening like a Lotus Elise. No. far far more interesting and far more"
Renault R5 Turbo
"...part of the car's character like you would with a Renault R5 turbo, you know, like then you're like embracing"
Porsche 959
"... speed and we really reward cars that remove like 959 is a perfect example. We should have one in this"
Chevrolet Corvette
"50 years? >> The Corvette. >> Yeah. Also something else I would do a"
Chevrolet Suburban
"documentary. >> Chevrolet Suburban >> 100% do a documentary on that. Um it's"
Honda Accords
"yeah. No, it's not that many cars. Like Accord's not 50 yet either. Camry is certainly not 50."
Toyota Camry
"... that many cars. Like Accord's not 50 yet either. Camry is certainly not 50."
Honda Civic
"certainly not 50. >> Civic Civic is 1974."
Toyota Corolla
"Civic. >> That's the point is, you know, Corolla probably."
Saab9 Turbo
"... that was not regular production. So 2002 Turbo 9 Saab9 Turbo was really the first regular production."
Chevrolet Corvair
">> and the Corv. >> The Corvair, which were the first two, but they were very sho..."
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