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HOLIDAY SPECIAL: OG Hoonigans Dan & Zac Join Scotto for a “SURPRISE” Episode of VERY VEHICULAR
HOLIDAY SPECIAL: OG Hoonigans Dan & Zac Join Scotto for a “SURPRISE” Episode of VERY VEHICULAR
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About this episode
The holiday special features OG Hoonigans Dan and Zac joining Scotto for a surprise podcast filled with nostalgia and updates on their latest projects. The trio reminisces about their time at Hoonigan, discussing memorable builds like Cole Marrow and Scumbug, while also diving into the challenges and triumphs of automotive projects. They share stories about their favorite builds, the evolution of their work, and the camaraderie that comes from working on cars together. Expect laughter, insights, and a look back at the automotive journey of these enthusiasts.
Topics:
braking
creeper
differential
drift car
enclosed trailer
F 600
insurance
intercooler piping
LS
LS engine
Cars:
Audi Quattro
BMW 328
BMW 3 Series
BMW M3
Buick Gran Sport
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Tahoe
Dodge Magnum
Dodge Viper
Fiat 600
Ford Bronco
Ford Explorer
Ford Mustang
Infiniti G35
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Roadster (W198)
Nissan 350Z
Renault Wind
Volkswagen Vanagon
Scotto takes both Danger Dan and Mister Zachary captive this Christmas eve, thrusting them into the proverbial hotseat on the VERY VEHICULAR HOLIDAY SPECIAL! As you’d expect, they get into some memories from the OG days of Hoonigan as well as fill us in on what mayhem they’re up to lately. If you listen closely, you might even hear the whisperings of … a possible reunion? Stay tuned, and Happy Holidays!
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00:00 - Welcome to the Holiday Special
01:25 - Sponsors: Vyper Industrial, Toyo Tires, Heat Wave
03:54 - Coalmaro: The Project That Burned Us Out
07:11 - Firing Order - Ranking Favourite Hoonigan Builds
13:01 - The G35 and Popping Your Hood Cherry
18:59 - Shit Car, Knuckle Busters, and Drift Mishaps
28:07 - The Four Garage Solution: Pole Barns & Mezzanines
32:53 - Work-Life Balance & All-Nighters at Hoonigan
34:52 - Holiday Wishes & New Projects
36:57 - Boating, Burnouts, and The Qualified Captain
45:01 - Burnyard, Burnout Wars, and SEMA Stories
56:03 - Australian Burnout Culture & Building a Sport
01:00:51 - Drift Appalachia & Backroads Adventures
01:15:07 - Car Projects, Power Builds, and Unfinished Business
01:29:22 - The Next Big Trip: Elements of Danger?
01:35:15 - Wrap-Up & Holiday Farewell
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Technical
Too Afraid to Ask
Part
creeper
"As I've gotten older and bigger, I realized I need a better creeper because I've been known to bottom out a few of the cheap ones. Enter Viper's man-sized laydown creeper."
A creeper is a flat platform with wheels that helps mechanics slide under cars to work on them comfortably. It makes it easier to reach parts of the car that are low to the ground.
A creeper is a tool used by mechanics to slide underneath vehicles easily. It typically has a padded surface for comfort and wheels to allow for smooth movement.
Car
Dodge Vipers
"known to bottom out a few of the cheap ones. Enter Viper's man-sized laydown creeper. As expected, they've got great casters just like their stools."
The Dodge Viper is a super-fast sports car that stands out because of its unique shape and powerful engine. It's known for being really fun to drive but can be tricky for beginners.
The Dodge Viper is a high-performance sports car known for its powerful V10 engine and striking design. Produced from 1992 to 2017, it has become a symbol of American muscle and is often discussed for its raw performance and driving experience.
Part
Toyo Open Country AT3
"...because I got some Toyo Open Country AT3s on there. This is a great off-road tire that also performs really well in the snow."
The Toyo Open Country AT3 is a type of tire that works well for driving on rough surfaces and in snowy weather. It has special designs that help it grip the road better.
The Toyo Open Country AT3 is an all-terrain tire designed for off-road performance while also providing good traction in snow and wet conditions. Its 3D multi-wave sipes and lateral grooves enhance grip and stability.
Car
Nissan 350Z
"The 350Z. It's supposed to be a 350Z and we couldn't fit the engine to 350Z."
The Nissan 350Z is a two-door sports car that was made by Nissan. It's known for being fast and fun to drive, which is why many people like it.
The Nissan 350Z is a sports car that was produced by Nissan from 2002 to 2009. It is known for its rear-wheel drive layout and strong performance, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.
Car
Dodge Magnum
"I suggested a Dodge Magnum. And that's what I wanted to do. Probably would have been cooler too."
The Dodge Magnum is a type of car called a station wagon, which is similar to a sedan but has more space in the back for carrying things. It was made by Dodge and is known for its sporty look and powerful engine options.
The Dodge Magnum is a full-size station wagon that was produced by Dodge from 2005 to 2008. It is known for its muscular styling and performance-oriented features, making it a unique offering in the wagon segment.
Term
F 600
"...the plan is I want to take that engine out and put it in that F 600 I have."
The F 600 is a type of truck made by Ford. It's strong and can be used for many different jobs, like carrying heavy loads.
The F 600 refers to a model of truck produced by Ford, known for its durability and utility in various applications. It's often used in commercial settings and can be modified for different purposes.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
"And then Jose wants to put an LS back in the Camaro as the chassis."
The Chevrolet Camaro is a type of car that is known for being fast and sporty. It's often used for racing and has a strong following among car enthusiasts.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular American muscle car known for its performance and sporty design. It has been produced in various generations since its introduction in 1966.
Term
LS engine
"And then Jose wants to put an LS back in the Camaro as the chassis."
The LS engine is a powerful type of engine made by General Motors. It's often used in different cars because it's reliable and can make them go faster.
The LS engine is a series of V8 engines produced by General Motors, known for their performance and versatility in various applications, including swaps into other vehicles.
Term
LS
"...which it could be really easily done with just an LS. Yeah. Let's go do it with an LS."
LS engines are powerful V8 engines made by General Motors. They are popular for putting into different cars to make them faster.
The LS refers to a family of V8 engines produced by General Motors, known for their performance and versatility in various applications, including swaps into other vehicles.
Car
Chevrolet Tahoe
"We'll pull the motor out of my Tahoe. You realize it has the gear going to go 200 miles an hour revving to 3,500."
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a large SUV that can carry many passengers and cargo. It's often used for family trips or towing things like trailers.
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a full-size SUV known for its spacious interior and strong towing capacity. It's popular among families and those needing a robust vehicle for various tasks.
Concept
tube chassis
"Cause we built the, the tube chassis car, the nocturnal. Chassis, yes, their team. Nocturnal motor works in St. Louis."
A tube chassis is a frame made from pipes that supports a car's body and components. It's strong and light, making it great for racing or custom cars.
A tube chassis is a type of vehicle frame made from tubular steel or aluminum, providing a lightweight yet strong structure. It's commonly used in custom-built race cars and off-road vehicles for its rigidity and ability to be tailored to specific designs.
Company
Nocturnal Motor Works
"Nocturnal motor works in St. Louis. Me and my buddy built a tube chassis car."
Nocturnal Motor Works is a car shop in St. Louis that builds and modifies cars, often focusing on performance and custom designs.
Nocturnal Motor Works is a custom automotive shop located in St. Louis, known for building unique vehicles and modifications, particularly in the realm of racing and performance cars.
Car
Mazda Miata
"Do a Miata? I love Miata's."
The Mazda Miata is a small sports car that's fun to drive. It's known for being light and easy to handle, which makes it a favorite for many car lovers.
The Mazda Miata is a lightweight two-seater sports car known for its excellent handling and fun driving experience. It's often praised for its simplicity and affordability, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.
Car
Mazda MX-5 Miata
"I'm a huge Miata fan. I mean, that thing lived through everything. It still lives, right?"
The Mazda MX-5 Miata is a small sports car that is very popular among car enthusiasts. It's known for being fun to drive and is often praised for its design and performance.
The Mazda MX-5 Miata is a lightweight two-seater sports car known for its excellent handling and fun driving experience. It has a long history and is celebrated for its affordability and reliability.
Car
Infiniti G35
"Basically totaled that G 35 by hitting it with shark cart. Oh man. You remember the G 35?"
The Infiniti G35 is a car made by the luxury brand Infiniti. It's known for being sporty and stylish, and it was made between 2002 and 2007.
The Infiniti G35 is a luxury sports sedan that was produced by Nissan's Infiniti division from 2002 to 2007. It is known for its performance, stylish design, and rear-wheel-drive layout, making it popular among driving enthusiasts.
Car
Audi Quattro
"I had just gotten the Audi coupe Quattro running during the beginning of the pandemic. I opened up the door, I pulled the car out, undid the hood pins, checked the oil..."
The Audi Coupe Quattro is a type of car that is designed for sporty driving and has a special system that helps it grip the road better, especially in bad weather.
The Audi Coupe Quattro is a sporty coupe known for its all-wheel-drive system and performance capabilities. It was part of Audi's Quattro line, which emphasizes handling and traction, especially in challenging driving conditions.
Car
Renault Wind
"...ins, started driving down the block and a gust of wind came up the alleyway."
The Renault Wind is a small car that can turn into a convertible, meaning you can drive it with the top down. It's designed for fun driving, especially on nice days.
The Renault Wind is a compact convertible sports car that was produced between 2010 and 2012. Its unique folding roof design and sporty handling make it an interesting topic for discussions about small, fun cars.
Term
metal flake paint
"It was funny because like it, like it just got in this paint job and then they did like a metal flake roof and it like shattered the windshield."
Metal flake paint is a special kind of car paint that has tiny shiny bits in it, which makes the car look sparkly and eye-catching in the sunlight.
Metal flake paint is a type of automotive paint that contains small metallic particles, giving the surface a shimmering effect when light hits it. It's often used to enhance the visual appeal of a vehicle's finish.
Term
intercooler piping
"It's just intercooler piping for 90 feet. Wait, wait."
Intercooler piping helps cool down the air that goes into the engine after it's been compressed by the turbo. Cooler air is better for performance because it helps the engine run more efficiently.
Intercooler piping is a component of a turbocharged engine's cooling system. It connects the turbocharger to the intercooler and then to the engine, helping to reduce the temperature of the compressed air before it enters the engine for combustion.
Term
taxes
"Otherwise you're going to have to pay taxes on it. And we were like, where are the taxes?"
Taxes are extra money you have to pay when you bring a car into a country. They are based on how much the car is worth.
Taxes on imported vehicles can include customs duties, sales tax, and other fees that are assessed based on the vehicle's value and the regulations of the importing country.
Term
enclosed trailer
"So I get there and there's like an enclosed trailer and they're lowering that enclosed carrier."
An enclosed trailer is a covered vehicle used to transport things like cars. It keeps them safe from rain and dirt while they're being moved.
An enclosed trailer is a type of transport vehicle that is fully covered, providing protection for the cargo inside, such as cars, from weather and road debris during transport.
Car
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
"...a 1955 yellow. Going gold. And it wasn't a goal wing. It was the, it was the convertible version, but it wasn't actually a goal wing."
The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL is a famous car from the 1950s, known for its unique doors that open upwards. There was also a convertible version that doesn't have these doors but is still very popular.
The Mercedes-Benz 300 SL is a classic sports car known for its distinctive gullwing doors and was produced in the 1950s. The convertible version, often referred to as the Roadster, is also highly sought after by collectors.
Car
Bugatti
"...like one of those no touch deliveries come like when you buy a Bugatti..."
Bugatti is a brand that makes very expensive and fast cars. They are known for being some of the best and most luxurious cars in the world.
Bugatti is a luxury automobile manufacturer known for producing high-performance hypercars. The brand is synonymous with exclusivity and advanced engineering, often featuring cutting-edge technology and design.
Term
insurance
"...I called Demars and I was like, Hey, as well, you know, there's a car in here worth about four or five million dollars. He's like, the insurance doesn't cover it."
Insurance helps protect you from losing money if something happens to your car, like it getting damaged or stolen. For very expensive cars, you might need special insurance to cover their high value.
Insurance is a financial product that provides protection against potential future losses, such as damage or theft of a vehicle. In the context of high-value cars, specialized insurance may be required to cover their full value.
Term
roll cage
"...but I built the roll cage and I trusted it 200 miles an hour on its lid. It would have always been cool to have put a big tire on that thing..."
A roll cage is a strong frame inside a car that helps keep people safe if the car flips over. It makes the car sturdier and protects the passengers during a crash.
A roll cage is a safety feature in a vehicle, designed to protect occupants in the event of a rollover or crash. It provides structural support and helps maintain the integrity of the passenger compartment during an accident.
Term
drift car
"And all the other stuff was a conglomerate of things that I didn't like for a drift car. It's funny."
A drift car is a type of car made to slide sideways while driving, which is a popular style in motorsports. These cars are often modified to help them slide better around corners.
A drift car is a vehicle specifically modified or designed to perform drifting, which is a driving technique where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels while maintaining control through turns.
Term
braking
"The braking sucked. Okay."
Braking is how a car slows down or stops. It involves parts that squeeze the wheels to make them stop turning. If the braking is bad, it means the car doesn't stop well.
Braking refers to the system that slows down or stops a vehicle. It can involve various components like brake pads, rotors, and calipers, and performance can vary based on the car's design and modifications.
Term
power delivery
"The power delivery was wrong. You know, it's Ron's favorite car in terms of cars to drive."
Power delivery is how a car's engine sends power to its wheels. It can change how quickly the car speeds up and how it feels when you press the gas pedal.
Power delivery refers to how the engine's power is transmitted to the wheels. It affects acceleration and overall driving experience, influencing how responsive a car feels during acceleration.
Term
differential
"After you get, when you get the right diff combination, that was part of it."
A differential is a part of a car that helps the wheels turn at different speeds, which is important when going around corners. It helps the car handle better and stay stable.
A differential is a mechanical component that allows wheels to rotate at different speeds, especially during turns. It plays a crucial role in handling and traction, particularly in performance and racing applications.
Car
BMW E36S
"...we did that project to try to promote the idea of E36s in drifting because no one was using E36s. They're so good."
The BMW E36 is a model of the 3 Series that was made between 1990 and 1997. It's well-liked for its good handling and is often used in car racing, especially drifting.
The BMW E36 is the third generation of the BMW 3 Series, produced from 1990 to 1997. It is known for its balanced handling and has become popular in motorsports, particularly drifting.
Car
BMW M3
"...$2,000 E36 M3, like that doesn't exist anymore."
The BMW E36 M3 is a special version of the BMW 3 Series made for performance. It was built in the 1990s and is loved for its speed and handling, especially by people who enjoy drifting.
The BMW E36 M3 is a high-performance version of the BMW 3 Series produced from 1992 to 1999. It is known for its sporty handling and powerful inline-six engine, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts and drifters.
Car
BMW 328
"...Shit car was a 318. No, no, no. That was a 328. Was it? Yeah..."
The BMW 328 is a slightly larger and more powerful version of the 318, also part of the 3 Series. It offers a sportier driving experience and more features.
The BMW 328 is another model from the BMW 3 Series, typically offering more power and features compared to the 318. It's known for its sporty performance and luxury features.
Car
BMW 318
"...Shit car was a 318. No, no, no. That was a 328. Was it? Yeah. 318 is the short ones..."
The BMW 318 is a smaller car in the BMW lineup, part of the 3 Series. It's designed to be fun to drive while still being practical for everyday use.
The BMW 318 is a model from the BMW 3 Series, known for its compact size and sporty handling. It's often appreciated for its balance of performance and practicality.
Car
Fiat 600S
"...drafting. Like, you know, you got guys in like S 600s just on the bumper of somebody just let's fuck i..."
The Fiat 600 is a small, cute car that was popular a long time ago. It's known for being easy to drive and park in tight spaces, making it great for city life.
The Fiat 600 is a classic city car that was produced from 1955 to 1969, known for its compact size and efficiency. It played a significant role in making car ownership accessible in post-war Europe, often discussed for its charming design and historical significance.
Car
Volkswagen Vanagon
"...it's a 1990 Vanagon."
The Volkswagen Vanagon is a type of van that people often use for camping or traveling. It has a lot of room inside and can be customized with different features to make it comfortable for trips.
The Volkswagen Vanagon is a versatile van that was produced from 1979 to 1992, known for its spacious interior and distinctive boxy shape. It's popular among enthusiasts for camping and road trips due to its ample space and ability to be outfitted with various amenities.
Car
Ford Mustang
"...ent stuff. You know, obviously Vaughn built that Mustang back in the day. And like I've seen them out on ..."
The Ford Mustang is a popular sports car that people love for its speed and cool looks. It's been around for a long time and is often talked about because it's a classic American car that many people admire.
The Ford Mustang is an iconic American muscle car that has been in production since 1964. Known for its powerful performance and distinctive styling, it has become a symbol of freedom and youth culture, making it a frequent topic in automotive discussions.
Car
Chevrolet C8
"...tain is something different. And then seeing the C8 this year with Matt Field was, I mean, the sound ..."
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast and stylish sports car that many people dream of owning. The newest version, called the C8, has its engine in the middle, which helps it drive better and go faster.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a high-performance sports car that has been a staple of American automotive engineering since 1953. The latest generation, known as the C8, features a mid-engine layout, which enhances its handling and performance, making it a hot topic among car enthusiasts.
Car
Buick Grand Sport
"Yeah, got the second one. I had that Grand Sport for a while. I sold that to Freddie LSX. OK."
The Buick Gran Sport is a classic car that was made to be faster and sportier than regular Buicks. It's loved by car collectors for its powerful engine and cool design.
The Buick Gran Sport is a performance-oriented version of the Buick Skylark, produced primarily in the 1960s and 1970s. It is notable for its powerful engines and sporty features, making it a sought-after classic among collectors.
Car
Ford Explorer
"Oh, you. Oh, that. We drove the frigging Explorer with no windshield. Now you went on that one."
The Ford Explorer is a big family car that can carry a lot of people and stuff. It's popular because it's comfortable and can handle different types of driving, like going off-road.
The Ford Explorer is a midsize SUV that has been a popular choice for families since its introduction in 1990. Known for its spacious interior and versatile capabilities, it is often discussed in the context of family-friendly vehicles and off-road adventures.
Car
Ford Bronco
"...ething into a pool than it is to drive a fucking Bronco into it or an Explorer with no windshield. Oh, y..."
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV that's great for driving off the beaten path. It's known for its cool design and ability to handle rough terrain, which makes it exciting for outdoor adventures.
The Ford Bronco is a rugged SUV that has gained a cult following since its debut in the 1960s. Recently reintroduced, it is celebrated for its off-road capabilities and retro styling, making it a hot topic among adventure enthusiasts.
- Welcome to the Holiday Special
- Sponsors: Vyper Industrial, Toyo Tires, Heat Wave
- Coalmaro: The Project That Burned Us Out
- Firing Order - Ranking Favourite Hoonigan Builds
- The G35 and Popping Your Hood Cherry
- Shit Car, Knuckle Busters, and Drift Mishaps
- The Four Garage Solution: Pole Barns & Mezzanines
- Work-Life Balance & All-Nighters at Hoonigan
- Holiday Wishes & New Projects
- Boating, Burnouts, and The Qualified Captain
- Burnyard, Burnout Wars, and SEMA Stories
- Australian Burnout Culture & Building a Sport
- Drift Appalachia & Backroads Adventures
- Car Projects, Power Builds, and Unfinished Business
- The Next Big Trip: Elements of Danger?
- Wrap-Up & Holiday Farewell
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It's the holidays, and here's the season for surprises.
Both Danger Dan and Mr. Zachary thought they were just coming by to hang out, but no, surprise
podcast.
I know how much you enjoy catching up with the OG Hoonigans.
We do a bunch of that, get into some nostalgia, and also talk about all the new things they're
up to.
Enjoy it.
We did.
Well, here we are, guys, another episode of Very Vacular, and I have two very good buddies
here who didn't know they were going to be on the show together today.
It is the holiday special.
If you're watching this fresh, it's Christmas Eve, and you're trying to avoid your family.
I respect that.
What's up, boys?
What's up, dude?
What's up, dude?
Well, it's the last time you two saw each other.
There was a minute ago.
We just started a PRI last year, randomly bumped into each other there.
Yeah.
It was my first PRI.
I haven't seen...
When was the last time you and I saw each other, Dan?
I don't know.
I really don't.
Dan was just in my house, so I walked back in, and I was like, look, there's Dan, because
Dan's in town.
Yeah.
Now I'm on a podcast.
And he did not know he was on a podcast today.
It was like, hey, surprise podcast, which is pretty much like what it was like working
at Hoonigan.
I grew up in New York City working on cars and alleyways on jack stands, which means
I spent a lot of time on my back.
As I've gotten older and bigger, I realized I need a better creeper because I've been
known to bottom out a few of the cheap ones.
Enter Viper's man-sized laydown creeper.
As expected, they've got great casters just like their stools.
The fabric hammock design is super comfy, and it even has a nice adjustable headrest,
which is great for those undercar naps.
Check them out.
Viperindustrial.com.
That's Viper with a Y.
Winter is coming, which for many of us just means snow.
And ChurchVan is so ready because I got some Toyo Open Country AT3s on there.
This is a great off-road tire that also performs really well in the snow.
It's got 3D multi-wave sipes and additional lateral grooves, which translates to giving
you more traction in both wet and snowy conditions.
Plus, it comes with a triple-peak mountain snowflake stamp, allowing you to access most
chain-only roads during storms.
Also, it's available in e-load ratings for massive beasts like my van.
As you can see, Toyo has me covered from my off-road rigs all the way to my soon-to-be-ready
track-ready Audi.
I absolutely love seeing two rad companies team up to make something cool, especially
when I know the founders of both brands.
Heatwave has partnered with Nixon to create the TimeTeller.
That's right, sunglasses and watches coming together.
At 40mm, it wears well on the wrist and the rubber strap is super comfortable.
But for me, the dial is what makes it.
It's inspired by those iconic 80s and 90s tech-ometers.
You know the ones with that classic orange glow.
Wow.
That said, they only made a limited number of them.
So run Don't Walk to HeatwaveVisual.com before Time runs out.
I'm actually stoked for this because just yesterday I was like, man, I wonder how Dan's
doing.
I haven't talked to that dude in a minute.
What Dan doesn't know is I'm going to make him finish Cole Marrow tonight.
I'm taking that sucker home.
You know it's at Jose's.
Is it?
Really?
I have to go to Jose's.
I've got to go pick up my 2Jet.
Is that Jose's?
Yeah, use that tow trailer back, you know what I mean?
You know, I didn't actually plan to jump into that, but this wasn't the plan.
It was the holiday special and we have a lot of themes here you can see because I took
a lot of time like making notes.
No notes at all.
Check it out.
Yeah, it checks out.
Yeah.
And I'm planned about something.
So I figured we'd just riff it.
Again, holiday special.
There's not much to do.
Sip your eggnog.
Whatever.
So I had a conversation the other day with somebody and I want to see if you agree.
I think Cole Marrow was one of the like tipping points for us at Hoonigan into making content
we didn't like.
For me for sure.
But it was more than just for you.
It was more than just for you because I think in the end we didn't understand why we were
building the car.
Yeah.
Like when we got to the end, like nobody wanted to build it anymore because originally remember
what it was supposed to be?
The 350Z.
It's supposed to be a 350Z and we couldn't fit the engine to 350Z.
Yeah, there's no way.
Yeah.
Because the engine was so wide was the LBZ like it's so wide that it's wider than the
strut towers.
Fully dressed was like 35 inches wide, which was and strut towers are 31 or something like
that.
Oh, yeah.
I remember there.
We were like trying to like scrap it and be like, what can this actually fit in?
That's a car.
Yeah.
I suggested a Dodge Magnum.
And that's what I wanted to do.
Probably would have been cooler too.
Probably would have been cooler.
Yeah.
I don't know why at the time we were like, oh, it's probably because I saw one on Marketplace.
Let's be honest.
That drove a lot of my decisions back then.
We just measured some stuff and it worked.
Yeah.
That's all it was.
And then the project started and I think we were like really excited until it was not
easy anymore.
And then we just basically closed the door and let Dan and Jose suffer through it.
And then it got finished.
And I think between that and like the Gale Bank stuff and all that, I think it just burned
everybody out.
It did a hell of a burnout though.
It did one hell of a burnout.
It never went faster than a hundred and like 30 miles an hour as a for a land speed car.
But it would do 130 miles an hour.
But it would do 160 mile a wheel speed burnout.
No, like from a roll, like at whatever speed, it seemed to just ignite the time.
80 pounds a base.
Didn't matter.
So I don't know if you know this, but somehow when I was leaving, they gave me that.
So like it became like the weird thing in the divorce that I, they didn't know what to
do with it.
They had nowhere to store it and they didn't have a title for it.
So they were like, we don't know what to do with this thing.
Do you think you can sell it?
And I was like, no, but if you need it gone, I'll take it.
And then it went to Jose's.
And I forgot that it was there until like three weeks ago when, when Vinny sent me a photo
of it.
He's like, yo, are you going to go get this?
But the plan is I want to take that engine out and put it in that F 600 I have.
And then Jose wants to put an LS back in the Camaro as the chassis.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
And then he wants to go huge winters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's indestructible.
There's no way you're breaking that.
No, but we're going to make an episode about it.
And I feel like you need to come back out for that.
Cause I feel like you, I feel like it would be like never even got to finish it.
All right here.
Yeah.
Come on back out.
Check it out.
I think we're like writing wrongs with it though.
The right, the wrong would be go 200 miles an hour in it, which it could be really easily
done with just an LS.
Yeah.
Let's go do it with an LS.
It's got the gear.
Yeah.
Listen, dog.
We'll pull the motor out of my Tahoe.
You realize it has the gear going to go 200 miles an hour revving to 3,500.
Imagine if you rev at the seven grand.
You realize I got to go pick up that U-Haul tomorrow.
There you go.
There's a free LS in there for you.
I also feel like it was real shitty to just like be like, Hey man, you've never done
any diesel stuff, right?
Figure this out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think that we were talking, I had this conversation.
I could give it to you guys too.
I don't know if you heard the episode with Vinny and Ron, but we did this listing of
our favorite builds we ever did.
So I, you know, I'd be kind of interesting to hear you guys on it.
So I have this other podcast idea because, you know, I don't really like ever doing just
one thing.
It can never be that easy.
So I have this concept.
It's called firing order and it's like a listicle creator.
So you basically, you get a team of people together and then you make a list of the greatest,
you know, whatever, right?
And everybody brings their own list to the table and then you fight over it.
And you basically just a podcast where everyone just argues the whole time and at the end
you have to make a list.
And then the name of the group of people who come in is the rotating assembly.
And yes, I'm very fucking proud of that.
I appreciate that wink.
Yeah.
So the rotating assembly, firing order.
So we did a little test of it in the pilot episode and we talked about what our three
favorite builds were of all time at, at Hoonigan.
What were your guys?
Like if you had a list, your three favorite builds, whether you were involved in them
or not.
And it was company cars, not personal cars.
I mean, mine, like for some weird reason, like Scumbug.
Yeah, Scumbug was on my list.
But I feel like it was just because it was so fun, even in like it's like the first
outing.
It was also Dan's first week.
Yeah, Dan showed up and Dan, Dan showed up, barely knew me, met me like once 10 years
earlier at a, at a no star bash, right?
And showed, showed up and we were like, Hey, we just bought this piece of shit in a.
Yeah.
And you like basically worked all night to like try to fix as many problems as
steering wheel off immediately.
Yeah, I just went, he was like, he was like, I was like, you think you can get this
running, you know, so we can go drive a thousand miles in Baja.
And he was like, sure, that was his first week after he welded.
He's just finished welding shark cart back together because we had just started
stripping shark cart down.
Yeah.
So you've, you've finished building that.
And then he was like, look, it runs.
And I'm like, great, how about working on this?
Well, that's how we met, right?
Cause we built the, the tube chassis car, the nocturnal.
Yeah.
Chassis, yes, their team.
Nocturnal motor works in St. Louis.
Me and my buddy built a tube chassis car.
You guys saw that and like, what the hell is this?
And that's when we had the road course in St. Louis.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, I can do that kind of tube work.
You want to do it?
Do a Miata?
I love Miata's.
I love tube work.
It worked out.
Was that gateway?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was cool.
The good gateway.
Yeah, that was a cool track.
That thing ripped out there.
So yeah, that, okay.
So scumbug, what else?
Scumbug, I, I honestly, oddly enough, Shark Cart, you know,
Shark Cart was on my list too.
So far you've named two of my top three on the list.
Yeah.
And which are not like things that I would normally, you know,
it's not really my style, but like they are the most fun we
already had or ever had in cars.
I feel like I could guess your third, but I'd be interested
to hear what you have to say.
Oh man, trying to think of third, man.
Trying to think of like what else was built there that was a brand.
Do you want me to give you some cars?
Well, hold on, hold on.
If, if it's brand car, the third gen of the 632 is like.
That's what I was going to guess.
Cause that's like the you car, like if there was ever a car
that was so you, by the way, I'm actively campaigning Hoonigan
to let me take and actually fix that on my channel.
That would be fantastic.
Cause you know, yeah.
If you're listening to the pod, go tell Hoonigan, give the, give
the marrow to Zach to fix.
Yeah, pick one.
All right.
So those are your three.
So none of those made the top list of the way we did it,
but the 632 was on Vinny's list.
A scumbag and shark cart run mine.
I think in the end it was Rolls Royce, Donk, shit car.
We're our three favorite.
And I argued that shark cart was a better car than shit car.
That we had more fun in it.
More people learn to do everything in it.
I mean, we taught a nine year old how to do donuts in it.
We taught people how to drive stick.
Tons of people learned how to drift in that car.
I mean, that thing was really the village bicycle for Hoonigan.
And it was one of the more fun, reliable vehicles.
The company party while doing all of that stuff in the old yard.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
That was super fun.
Watching everybody try to learn how to do donuts for the first time.
And I mean, we stuck with them for the rest of their life.
Tons of people.
I mean, like Cacaua, Cacaua did donuts in shit car.
We had them in that too.
But I think there was, I mean, we had the most random people,
like people from accounting, like people who like just managed production.
Like I think Jamie, it was a bunch of people who got to rip that.
So that thing was super fun.
Like not actual car people, like getting to experience something like
without any liability towards us.
Like if you break it or whatever.
No, shark car was was fantastic.
I think what's your list?
For me, number one, shark cart.
I obviously was my first day there.
Yep.
I'm a huge Miata fan.
I mean, that thing lived through everything.
It still lives, right?
It's still.
I just saw it the other day.
I was over there.
So I don't know.
I'm taking that home.
I don't know.
I'm taking that with me.
I can't wait to the size vehicle that you're like,
I came out, I'm going to buy a 10 foot you or rent a 10 foot you haul to go home.
By the time you're done, you're like, yeah, honey.
So I had to pick up a had to pick up an old seven three diesel to tow this three car home.
Bees like that sometimes.
Um, Ron had a really good idea, which was he wanted to convince him again.
So this is the game.
Everyone just has to convince him again to give us the cars back so we can all fix them
and get them right.
But Ron wanted to build shark cart into a Jim Conak car to compete on their new Jim Conak
grid show.
Cause that thing would actually rip it.
Well, all wheel drive.
No, no, just real drive.
You don't have to do anything but put new tires on it.
Yeah.
I think it's just, I think it just has a little negligence and a little neglect.
A lot of neglect.
Yeah.
So, and a lot of us just beating a little bit of shit out of it.
I mean, we totally boring beer into the radio.
Basically totaled that G 35 by hitting it with shark cart.
Oh man.
You remember the G 35?
Yeah.
Didn't you lose the hood?
Yeah.
You popped, you popped your hood.
You popped your hood.
Yeah.
We just got painted and literally just got back.
Then we had to do some integration for some like dog, uh, like, you know, like we,
your dog would like rest its head on the window.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I took it around.
Oh, I forgot about pooch pal.
Oh my God.
Literally drove it up the street, turned left on chestnut or whatever that is.
And then they were doing road construction.
It tore the exhaust off because there was a plate.
And so Kyle went to go get it.
And we were like, oh shit, we better get this thing back to the shop, right?
Cause now it is an open header G 35.
And as we were coming down the road to get down to golden there, it just like,
we're the, dad, we're talking like, and all of a sudden the hood just ejected.
And then it hit the walkover pass like the, yeah.
And like,
I think it got caught on a GoPro too, right?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
There's a great shot of it.
There's a bunch of shots of it.
That is one of the hardest I've ever laughed in my life.
I think.
Did you ever lose a hood during the honey gun era?
No.
So I did.
Cause I was driving.
I had just gotten the Audi coupe Quattro running during the beginning of the pandemic.
I opened up the door, I pulled the car out, undid the hood pins, checked the oil, closed
the hood, didn't clip the pins, started driving down the block and a gust of wind came up
the alleyway.
And I just watched the carbon fiber hood flip over, snap, break the corners off the hood.
And I was, it was like, I felt like it was a spiritual moment.
Yeah.
Because at that point everybody had had a hood moment and we made fun of everybody.
And we started talking about like the hurt curse.
And I instantly FaceTime hurt and he just laughed for like 20 minutes and then hung up.
Zach was driving the G35, but I do think it was my fault that that came off because the
pins weren't in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever.
It was hilarious.
It was funny because like it, like it just got in this paint job and then they did like
a metal flake roof and it like shattered the windshield.
I forgot about the metal flake roof.
Yeah.
It scratched the shit out of like, I mean, obviously the hood was messed up, but then
like the roof too.
Yeah.
It's okay.
Then we sent to the Saudi Arabia and it burned to the ground.
Yeah.
You know the story of that thing coming back in the Sultan of Brunei?
Do you know that whole story?
No.
You know, it seems like no one knows this story because again, it happened like during lockdowns
and like we weren't seeing each other every day.
So you, did you guys go to, did you go to Saudi?
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
So we said, so there was.
I was building the Camaro.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Nobody else wanted to go.
And I was like, if you give me 20 grand and they're like, cool.
I was like, should ask.
I was like, please take me anywhere, Brian.
Do they have, let me ask, do I have to install a Dora Max to leave?
You were basically, it was the, it was basically Hoonig and escape room.
It was like, Dan can't leave till he finishes this abomination we built.
It's just intercooler piping for 90 feet.
Wait, wait.
No.
So the story is, is so the cars get shipped to Saudi Arabia.
We did that car show there.
I forget what it was.
You and a, I think Micah and a few other people went and then the cars get shipped back.
And during that period of time, you know, lockdown goes into effect.
And this is like the first two months when none of us were in the building.
I get a phone call and it's like, Hey, there's a delivery at the building.
You have to go accept.
It's the cars from Saudi Arabia.
And I was like, okay, cool.
When the cars were coming back, we told them we don't want the G35 back because it burned.
It was burnt.
We were like, you guys can keep it.
They're like, no, we have to send it back because of car nailing for import laws.
Otherwise you're going to have to pay taxes on it.
And we were like, where are the taxes?
And they're like, Oh, well, you guys insured the car for like $75,000.
And I'm like, why did we do that?
So there was like the taxes around the $75,000 car.
I'm like, fine, just ship it back.
So car comes.
So I get there and there's like an enclosed trailer and they're lowering that enclosed carrier.
So like the first car that came off, I think it was like short car.
And I forget what else we sent out there.
And then that.
And then all of a sudden a 1955 yellow.
Going gold.
And it wasn't a goal wing.
It was the, it was the convertible version, but it wasn't actually a goal wing.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was.
Because I remember I went into the shop.
I don't think it was, but I'm going to let it go.
It's good for the story.
I swear to God, because I went into the office.
I was like the only person there.
I was like, why is this here?
So it shows up.
I remember it differently, but I don't care.
It looks better for the story.
So anyway, it was a goal wing.
And it was canary yellow.
And the guy's like, yeah, this is yours.
I'm like, no, no, he's like, look, I got the list right here.
It's a, yeah, this car, a yellow car.
This is the yellow car.
I'm like, that is not it, but you can leave it here.
I guess, but that's not it.
So the car gets dropped.
I'm like, this is definitely a mistake.
And I knew the guy who ran the event.
So they like hit him up and I'm like, Hey man, we just got this car here.
Do you have any idea what's going on with this?
He's like, no, no clue, but we'll get it figured out.
So like four months passed by and all of a sudden.
Like one of those no touch deliveries come like when you buy a Bugatti,
you know, it shows up in like the glass case and you can see it from the side.
One of those show up and out of the back of it is the burnt G35 being dumped
off because apparently that car belonged to the Sultan of Brunei.
And it was delivered to his collection here in Los Angeles.
And instead they delivered the G35.
You know, somebody like somebody lost their life for that mistake.
Hundred percent.
Like it straight up.
And I remember it so because I opened it and I was like, dude,
I'm pretty sure this car is worth a lot of money.
Why is it here?
If this is the worst place.
I called Demars.
I called Demars and I was like, Hey, as well, you know,
there's a car in here worth about four or five million dollars.
He's like, the insurance doesn't cover it.
I was like, All right, just letting you know.
Yeah.
Pretty, pretty sure there was at one point me doing a burnout on a motorcycle.
Like right behind that thing.
Yeah, because it was just, we just stuffed it in the corner of the office.
Yeah.
So anyway, shard cart.
Yeah.
What's next?
A little tangent boys.
Nothing new.
Shard cart.
Man.
Now that we've gone on a tangent, I would say shit car as well,
but before pre off road.
Yeah.
That we were.
Yeah.
That was a mistake.
That doesn't count.
We were just bored.
That was like when you get to the kink level of car.
Yeah.
Shit car was fantastic.
SR 20 era.
Yeah.
I liked the SR 20.
It just wasn't well carried out.
Yeah.
It could have been sick.
But that's where.
You think it would have been straight away from shit car at that point because that's
kind of sick.
Do you think it would have been sick if like Ron didn't crash it on the opening, the opening
run.
I crashed it.
Wait, you crashed it.
I jumped it.
Remember like literally.
No, that was the off road version.
But when we first put the SR in it, we went out to Irwindale when we had burn yard at Irwindale.
That's right.
And Ron sent it right into the wall.
Yeah.
And it was like everyone was so excited to drive it.
And then we all went home.
Yeah.
Man, that happens.
I made fun of that the other day.
Okay.
Shit car.
And strangely enough for me, Co Merrill.
Really?
Wait, what?
Yeah.
As much as I hated it.
This is.
Yeah.
I would have never expected this.
This is like breaking news.
I had in my head this idea that you hated that car.
I do.
Because I remember.
Is that why?
Is it like a weird love hate thing?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, to me, part of it is that it's something that I had to overcome.
Okay.
Right.
I knew nothing about diesel.
And I.
Yeah.
Had to overcome that.
I had to learn it.
I had to get past all of that.
I did.
And it was successfully pretty strong.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
It still probably runs.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
But.
Oh no, it still runs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they got it up and running without much effort.
Because it was such a difficult thing for me to do.
And a mental block in my head to get past.
And plus all the hate that I received for a lot of things is like, I got to get through
this.
That hate was so unwarranted.
Yeah.
That was such bullshit.
I had to get through it.
And I got through it and actually doing that burnout because I was so mad.
I couldn't care if I sent it to the moon and it just blew up, but it worked.
And I was like, this thing's actually sick.
It was pretty stout.
I mean, it's got beat on.
The first poles that we made down the airstrip and they couldn't hook up and it was just
doing burnout.
So that was the coolest feeling.
Oh yeah.
I was like, this is sweet.
It would do it.
I was like, I know it would do it, but the chassis, I'm not sure would do it.
I'm not an engineer.
I can't go 200 miles an hour.
I'll put this thing on its lid, but I built the roll cage and I trusted it 200 miles
an hour on its lid.
It would have always been cool to have put a big tire on that thing and seen what it
could have done just on just on a dry strip because like it just didn't hook at all with
what we had.
Well, the other part of it too is like, it was a rolling start.
It had to get a roll.
Yeah.
You couldn't get a start.
Yeah.
We had to roll into it and it wouldn't really even start going until about 40, 50 mile
an hour.
Yeah.
Like it wouldn't even grab.
But it would still tear the tires right off of it.
And as soon as it hit 40 mile an hour to blow the tires off anywhere from 40, I bet you
all the way up to 180 mile an hour blow the tires off.
You know, it's interesting.
I would have thought the Knucklebusters eat 36 foot of it on that.
No, I hated that car.
Really?
Yeah.
Why?
Well, like the fun part of building a car is the roll cage.
I didn't do that.
Okay.
And all the other stuff was a conglomerate of things that I didn't like for a drift car.
It's funny.
The gearing was too tall.
The braking sucked.
Okay.
The car drove like crap.
I drove your wife off the course at like 100 mile an hour.
Yeah, I remember that.
Because she's still here.
That's okay.
She's great.
Yeah, it takes a lot more.
The brakes didn't work.
A lot didn't work.
The power delivery was wrong.
The rear end gear was wrong.
You know, it's Ron's favorite car in terms of cars to drive.
Like he enjoyed that car the most out of all the cars to rip.
Because I think at one point it's fighting.
After you get, when you get the right diff combination, that was part of it.
Yeah.
We're fighting to get the right gearing.
Yeah.
The gearing is wrong.
And then, yeah.
Do you know what's a crazy thing?
The ITBs were weird too.
Yeah, yeah.
Now that initial, the initial dual intake manifold, dual throttle body setup was definitely
weird.
But that was obviously what was paying for the project was like Edelbrock was trying
to promote that.
Right, yeah.
But I think that things, something to think about that's so crazy is we did that project
to try to promote the idea of E36s in drifting because no one was using E36s.
They're so good.
But think about that.
Think about it now.
Yeah.
Like now it's like, there's more.
I mean, it's like omnipresent.
It's like, I almost feel like there's more BMWs, 36s and 46s.
I feel like the drift tax on those cars is like 36.
Yeah.
But the 46 is still not.
I know.
That was an M3 and we bought it for $2,000 and we drove it into the shop.
I mean, it wasn't great.
It was pretty, it was pretty roached, but $2,000 E36 M3, like that doesn't exist anymore.
Oh, the knucklebusters.
Yeah, the knucklebusters car.
I was like, not shit car.
What are you talking about?
Shit car was a 318.
No, no, no.
That was a 328.
Was it?
Yeah.
318 is the short ones.
So the 318 Ti, that was the Ti is a short one, but there's a 318 that's not.
I don't know.
I'm not a BMW guy.
It's a 318, I believe.
It's the four cylinder.
I thought that was a 328.
No, because I guess the 328 was a 2.8.
I guess it is a 1.8.
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah, 318.
I don't know.
That thing was sick though.
Yeah.
That car was awesome.
Yeah, we ruined that M3.
I don't know.
It's cool now, I guess.
It got a lot of life.
I drove it at grid life after it had gotten kind of a rebirth.
Yeah.
And then I drove it at Vegas in the Gymkhana setup, but it was setup for I don't know who,
not me, probably you in the seat.
And I tried to drive it and the helmet fell over my head and I almost fell out of the
seat.
And I was like, I'm good, actually.
I was following Luke Finken.
I was in between Luke and Micah Diaz.
And I was like, yeah, this is the most dangerous drifting I have ever done.
You know, I got to say, I'm going back to Colmaro because I almost feel like there's this weird
part of the universe that has just like closed up for me now.
Because I always sort of felt bad about Colmaro because I knew midway through the project,
you were just over it.
But we were like, we were just in it and we had to finish it.
I was over it before it started, to be fair.
You were kind of excited about it early on.
A little.
No, you were excited about it early on.
I think once you were done.
I've clearly stated, I don't know anything about DZ.
No, no, I know that was true.
But I think once you got done with the roll cage, you were like, okay, I'm done.
Yeah.
That's the easy part to me, right?
That fabric stuff is easy.
And then you get to the motors.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
But I think it's cool in the way that I overcame something.
And I think that it's cool because it was a really cool motor.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I kind of want the motor for nothing.
I know you're going to take it, but.
Well, you can come help me install the F600.
You can get.
I'm good.
You sure?
You still have that, by the way.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a whole, what is?
Well, the motor stuff is all done.
Yeah.
And not just that.
It's like a, there's like three wires to connect to the car because everything else is all,
it's all standalone.
So it's like, just power it and it's ready to go.
You can literally just take everything off.
Take everything off and plug it in.
Yeah.
The only thing is, I probably removed the dry sump because I just don't think there's
a, it just like more things to go wrong for no reason.
No.
I don't need a dry sump and a F600.
Hey, man.
You don't need a thousand horsepower.
That's true.
That's true.
I also don't need an F600.
I don't need anything.
But more oil is better.
Okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
From Zach.
So what have you guys been up to?
Just built stupid cars.
Same.
Yeah.
You know, doing YouTube stuff, crashing vehicles all over the United States with burn-out
wars.
You're still here in Long Beach.
Yep.
We are in Ohio.
How are you liking that?
Ohio's great.
You know, we're Midwest boys.
Yeah.
Back to boring stuff.
Yeah.
It's fantastic.
Time to myself.
You got a big garage shop space.
I have a two car garage and I have a 30 by 40 shop out back.
Damn, brother.
The shop is really good.
It's got really good lighting.
It has good air.
You got heated floors.
Nice floor.
And it's not heated.
Well, the shop is heated.
I don't really need heated floors.
I don't spend much time on the floor.
You know, when I realized like I had become an adult or at least a man of adult ambitions
is when I started getting pole barn recommendations on Facebook.
One, I still use Facebook.
Two, it's like, you know what you need in your life?
You need a 40 by 60 pole barn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I already, I have the shop and I still look at other shops.
Of course you do.
It's like having a project car.
You always have more.
I have four sheds on the property and I'm still looking to build another one.
The problem for me is I have so much stuff that isn't car related in the shop and that
is not what I want.
I want only car stuff for that shop.
So I need to have another storage stuff to get everything out.
It's just a workflow.
I get it.
Yeah.
Of course.
You can't mix church and state.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I, this is a good conversation because I don't want gardening tools in a garage.
No.
Like they need to be in a shed.
I don't want like something that digs holes in dirt to be near sockets or anything like
that makes no sense.
Also, you don't want your wood shop to be anywhere near like somewhere that you might
weld because then it's just a nightmare.
So it's like you really.
Or just in cars and general imparts and whatever.
Like, let's just be honest.
Like you need like a four garage life.
Absolutely.
Like a four garage solution.
You need like the garage that you store your nice cars in and that you let like, you know,
that you can like the garage door works.
Hold on.
And you can drive into.
Where's the timestamp on this so I can clue Emily and to watch this.
We're at 27.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Brian Scott's four garage solution.
Four garage.
This isn't a four car solution.
This is a four garage solution.
So one is a regular, like non-car person garage.
The garage door works when you push the button.
So it opens like on its own.
Right.
You guys ever experienced that before?
It's pretty cool.
I have one.
You can store like bicycles and Christmas trees and things like that in there.
No, no, no, no, that's different for me because I like bikes.
Bikes is a separate.
Kids bikes, kids bikes, like that type of stuff that all goes there.
Christmas decorations, Halloween decorations, all that goes in like a normal pedestrian
garage.
Then you have like the garage shop, full blown shop.
Like this is, this is the, where you work on stuff, but let's be honest, there's no
room to park a car in it.
Right.
It's, it's mostly just like machine shop stuff and a lift.
And then you have another garage, which is where you store your cars and all your parts.
And then you have a last, the last garage, which like is probably split into two garages.
Maybe this is a five car, five garage solution where you've got like your farm equipment,
you park your tractor, you're all that kind of stuff.
You will legally store gasoline and tires in there.
And then you also have your wood shop.
Got to have a mezzanine in one of them.
There's got to be, there's got to be a hangout spot.
I mean, even like we're doing right now, what we're doing right now, you got to have
a spot to hang.
So a mezzanine that works out in the car area, right?
Where you're storing the car.
Oh yeah.
You can hang out and look at all this stuff.
My full wet bar, my dream, yeah, my dream at the farm is to build like a tall, like
25 foot high, like barn with a mezzanine in it, where the triple stackers put the cars
at the height of the mezzanine so you could like look out and see like two cars stack
there and then across from it have a theater screen so everyone can hang out on the mezzanine
and like watch movies.
If you really want to get slick with the glass in.
No, yeah, that's the way to go.
Yeah.
Or you have like glassed in like elevator storage, right?
So like, you know, when you got real sick shit, you know, it doesn't get like affected
by any of the elements inside the storage area, right?
Right.
Yeah, I'm into that.
You don't want anybody coughing on your, you know.
You ever think about how different it would be if like we didn't have to share domiciles
with women?
We would just build the craziest places that would make no sense.
I would have walked straight past the house had we just gone.
I pretty much did.
I've been going on the rabbit hole of like, like garage houses, you know, basically like
a like a barn dominion before like a garage, like a garage dude.
I know.
Yeah.
And like that's exactly where it's like, okay, you got like six to eight thousand square
feet of garage space.
So then, you know, maybe like, again, mezzanine, yeah, it's like, you know, basically like
a glassed in small, maybe 1500 square feet maximum condo, you know, and that's like your
living area.
But then you got all this area where you can actually do your things and store them.
It would be fantastic.
You know, when I was in my early twenties, when Tron came out and they do the motorcycle
chase scene throughout the whole thing and he flops in opens his garage door, which is
basically just shipping containers underneath a bridge and pops in, parks the bike, hops
on the side of the couch, turns on the TV.
I was like, that's going to be my life or like Lord of War.
I want to do that.
Yeah.
I think, I think Mike Burroughs has a setup like that.
I've never actually been to his place, but I'm pretty sure he like lives at his shop,
which I think is pretty cool.
You know, I went to Jesse Combshop and I thought that that was the coolest setup I'd
ever seen.
Each time I went to the one that she got kicked out of, it was off the street from ours.
Yeah, that one.
That was really cool.
It was like off Seven Street.
Yeah.
So just to fill you guys in, it was like, it's rad spot, but then like apparently the city
or the fire marshal came down on her like, oh, this can't be like a work, live solution.
And they like, you know, gave her a bunch of shit for it, which it was like really well
done.
Yeah.
She had to take out like the kitchen or something in order to make it.
Yeah.
I forget what it was in the end.
It was so cool.
It was up there with one of the coolest places I've ever seen.
Yeah.
It was really cool.
I remember going to look at it being like, I want.
Yeah.
She just had, you know, the garage, you walk in, you have the two, three big garage basically,
and then a hallway, which is filled with all the coolest stuff she's done, right?
She's got fire suits and leather jackets and all that stuff.
And then there's a glass doors looking into the living area.
But if you're in the living area, which would be the kitchen, then you're looking out and
you look down this hallway of all the fire suits and helmets and carnage and stuff that
she's had.
And then there's the car she's working on in the back.
And I was like, man, that is cool.
And it was also so nondescript from the outside.
Right.
Like from the outside, just look like a random building and you walk inside, like this is
so cool.
Really cool.
Yeah.
I, I think like for my, like I like working at night, you guys remember, I would always
work at night.
And like, that's why I always wanted a place where like my shop was attached to my, to
my house, because the worst thing at Hoonigan would be, it'd be 430 in the morning.
I'd be like, I have to drive home now.
Like I gotta go home.
I gotta get home.
I gotta shower.
Like, I'm going to wake up by the time I get to the house and like then wake up when
I shower where like, if you could just do it and cry, I mean, I did, I definitely slept
at Hoonigan a lot.
Oh yeah.
I was actually just telling somebody the story about this, I think earlier today, but you
were in China and we had to do a livery launch for Ken.
It was the, uh, Troy Lee Designs first one.
Yeah.
The multi-color one.
And it was, you're like, Hey man, you might want to get some energy drinks and some food
is going to be a long night.
And so I was back at Hoonigan editing it and then like, I remember writing my chopper home
at like 515 in the morning and like, for those of you that don't live in LA, right?
The people that are up at 515 trying to get to work, it's basically like gridlock traffic
that moves at 95 miles an hour.
And so like, I remember just almost dying like three times on the ride home.
She's like, Oh my gosh, absolutely cooked.
And they're just like, and that was the point where I'm like, I'm just going to move to
Long Beach because I can't keep doing this.
And by the way, to a little more information on that traffic, the reason is, because there's
this sweet spot between 515 and six, there's no traffic.
And then all of a sudden at like 602, it just completely stops.
So that morning run are, these are professional drivers.
This is not normal traffic.
Yeah.
Like these people, they know how to merge.
They know everything at this time of morning.
Like they're all just like coffeeed up and running.
Like you said, 95 miles an hour, six feet apart from each other.
Oh yeah.
You're basically bump drafting.
Like, you know, you got guys in like S 600s just on the bumper of somebody just let's
fuck it go, which I live is cool.
But, you know, yeah, not after a 24 hour day.
So anyway, what's.
Are we going to do?
We talked about making up a theme for this since it is the holidays.
You guys got any theme, what makes this more holiday?
Like, what do you want for Christmas, Dan?
Silence.
Leave me alone.
That's where you're at now, Dan.
No, I mean, no, actually, no, I spent a lot of time alone, but no, I for Christmas, I feel
content right now.
That's a really good thing to want for Christmas.
You're just like, I'm good.
I'm good.
Yeah, I'm good.
I think Emily and I talked about a shared gift, which would be either an
espresso machine.
Nice.
Or, you know, I don't know.
For me, it always leads to another car, another bike.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw a really bitching two mass galleon for sale.
It was like a legit pirate ship that I was like, fuck, that would be so sick.
I'm surprised it's taken you this long to get into boating.
I feel like I love boats.
I just, you know, I try to stay away from things that I can't afford.
Right.
Like, I like power.
You know, I still have a boat.
You have.
Wait, the little like I have a jet stream boat that I still haven't built.
Oh, the one that just got delivered.
The one that got delivered years ago.
Yeah, yeah, I thought those shot out the jet stream.
Thanks very much.
Yeah, that would be those would be actually that looks like it'd be really
fun to have something that rips.
That's that small blast up a river.
Maybe like jump up.
I don't know a dam that a beaver built.
Definitely, definitely beaver jumping.
Yeah, that's the move.
Have you watched any of those videos?
Dude, yeah, fantastic.
I talked to Taylor Ray about it.
He's about it.
Yeah, it seems like everyone who has built one has kind of completely
abandoned cars.
He's like, it's like drifting, but it's way cool.
Yeah, but I don't have to do any work.
But apparently it's okay to drink while you do it and I don't have to change tires.
It's a lifestyle boating is almost, you know,
it's synonymous with, you know, getting about 12, 14 cars, lights and system.
Then, you know, seeing what that thing will do wide open.
Do you guys follow the qualified captain on Instagram?
Oh, yeah, you do, right?
Yeah, that was the only reason I follow it is because Ken was like,
this is the best Instagram account and it's changed now, but for like a good
year, all it was was people like having failed boat launches at ramps.
And like 90 percent of it is some escalate like going underwater because
people would forget that, like, once the boat lifts up, the e-brake no longer
works because you've taken all the weight off the back of the truck.
And it like, oh, so I always like seeing the guys that had the scores
with the guys back in the trailer.
Do you ever see to put added pressure?
I remember my dad flipping out back in a trailer into drive.
Oh, I could I could imagine.
I could just watch him get worked up with so fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
The other day I had this really great moment where I got to load a parts car
that I sold these young kids with my Kubota with a forklift.
And I had taken the front subframe off and I didn't tell them that.
So they showed up thinking they were getting a roller and they got there.
And the whole we got a dragger.
And I was like, yeah, it turned out I needed the subframe.
So, uh, yeah, how many friends did you bring?
And it's like two guys, no winch and just like an open trailer.
I was like, well, how are you going?
I was like, I'll throw it on with the tractor.
And I'll be honest, I got kind of lucky, but I did it like at first,
it took me a second to get it set up.
But once I got it set up, like I backed it up, turned it around,
put it all the way up and then dropped it on by just like, you know,
kind of moving it like a like a rickshaw, you know, just running it up like that.
And the one kid looked at me and was like,
oh, man, I was really impressed if you don't do this a lot.
And I had this moment where I was like, I feel like I've now achieved old man
wisdom, because I remember watching like old dudes back up trailers at like the
body shop I worked at and been like, one day I'll be like that.
And I had that moment.
I was like, yeah.
And then like 15 minutes later, I crashed a tractor into something,
but they didn't see it, you know, so it's all good.
So he left being like, man, that's Scott.
Oh, he sure can tractor.
You know, I was going to say the most flawless boat ramp drop off I've ever
experienced was a Ryan Anderson.
Dude, just like, hey, man, no problem.
Just one shot.
Dude, just perfection, effortless.
I bet you his son could do the same.
I think the Andersons just are built that way.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think they're just built that way.
By the way, random while we were filming Jim Khanna in Australia,
the Andersons just showed up on set because they were down there.
Oh, doing it.
Yeah, just like randomly shut up.
And I forget how much I enjoy Ryan Anderson.
Such a such a good dude.
I enjoy all of them.
They're just great people.
Dennis, all of them as a kid, I loved Gravedigger and Dennis Anderson.
And it's of all of the people that I've met in my life, like from,
you know, pro like racers to pro snowboarders, like all these cool people
who I got to get close to because of what we do.
I think Dennis Anderson is the one that like makes me the most giddy
because I love the one I was like when you're a little when you meet
people that were hero status when you were young, it's so different than
meeting other people.
Oh, yeah. Well, you know what?
They have like, I think they all get it from Dennis because Dennis is perfect
at it, right?
But like, you know, when it comes to somebody's signing autographs or doing
fan work, you know, like the interaction, like he's just so flawless.
And he just makes everybody feel like family, basically, right?
And like, Ryan's really good at it.
Adam's really good at it.
Sister's really good.
Teeny man's really good, you know, like, but they just they all, you know,
inherited that ability to like sit there and, you know, sign autographs.
The other day I sent Ryan a video.
I was out in Morseville and my ex shows with Chris Clark, right?
OK, his son was like, show me all his favorite like monster truck toys.
And he's like, this is my favorite.
And it was as a son of a digger, right?
And I said, I sent him a video of it.
And he's like, hey, let's say kid's name, you know, as I said it to him.
And then like 20 minutes later, I got like a three minute video.
Hey, man, just so you know, like just talking to the kid.
I was like, man, that's that's awesome.
Like, yeah, to do that.
You know, I didn't ask him to, you know, that nobody asked him to.
But it was like to go that far to just make a kid feel.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You know, and that's like probably the best marketing for that stuff, too.
You know, because it's like children are.
Well, you think about it.
They do like the most bad ass stuff.
I mean, honestly, the level at which monster trucks right now is just so different.
All right, backflips, all this kind of crazy stuff.
And they do it for six year olds.
Yeah. Right.
Like it's probably one of the craziest motorsports and with the youngest audiences.
Like it's weird if you think about it that way, because you think like more
people like us would be watching Monster Jam.
I mean, I'm into it, but not as into it as six year old.
Yeah, I think that was one of the coolest build biologies we ever did.
Oh, yeah.
So having that in there and sitting in there.
It we had. And how quickly he pulled that in.
We brought.
Were you there at Irwindale when it was there?
Yeah. This is insane.
Do we have a thing in the burn yard?
And at the clock shop.
Yeah. And then watching them like swap a motor in like a couple hours
and we're going at it again like, dude, it's a grenade a motor.
And then she's like, oh, now we got this.
You guys want to get lunch real quick.
Yeah.
Good group of mechanics, too.
And I was talking to them.
They're super fun.
Yeah.
I was like, man, that looks like it's leaking pretty good.
And he's like, that's how you know there's oil in it.
And I was like, all right, they're just normal guys.
Oh, yeah.
Now, man.
And like, but you know what you're saying?
Like nobody likes it more than the six year olds, right?
But it's it is that one motor sport where kids and adults can both enjoy it
equally as like, it's like, that's badass, right?
And my kids are like, yes.
You know, no, I mean, I look and this is like a whole podcast on its own.
But I think that every other motor sport could learn a ton from Monster Jam.
Like, I mean, and not just Monster Jam, but everything fell does
because Supercross is also really good.
They understand how to create a really good show.
When we were first doing Jim Connard grade, I had never been to a Supercross
event, right from the East Coast.
It's like, not as big.
And Ken said, you know, we're doing, we're putting grid together and we're
talking about it.
And Ken was like, I want you to fly out and go to Anaheim one.
Yep.
You need to see, you need to go to a one.
You need to see Supercross.
You need to understand what a good show is.
And he brought out like me and Derek and a bunch of the team.
And at first we got there like, oh, whatever.
And then like, once the show starts, you're like, yeah, these guys
understand the entertainment side of motor sports in a way that no one else gets it.
Well, that's why like also, so, you know, they basically rent out Angel Stadium
and they keep dirt there on site, right?
So the logistics behind both those shows.
Now that I have to do shows myself, right?
Like I look at that and like, holy shit, like it's really smart.
They figured out it's cheaper to just like rent, permanently rent like a section
of the lot, keep a bunch of shipping containers of dirt there, right?
And then they basically lay that dirt down and then they have, what was it?
Like they have like three Monster Jam, Monster Jam events and they have A1 kind
of like, or A1, A2 and A3, yeah.
All within like kind of the same stretch of like six, seven weeks, something
like that, but like they pack it out, right?
It's full 60,000 people.
They're doing something that the baseball team ain't doing.
No, and like they have, it's profitable still that they can like be like,
oh, yeah, we'll need Angel Stadium for two months.
You know, like that can't be cheap, but like it's the logistics behind all
that is absolutely insane.
And like also the parking lot parties, like for the Supercross, like parking
lot is absolutely stacked A, it's like, there's a lot of like good-looking
chicks there too, which is wild that you don't see it in the motorsport events.
Usually there's just a bunch of dudes, right?
Yeah.
But it's like, I mean, motorcycles have always had that.
Yeah, true.
But like the parking lot was just a massive party for like 10 hours before
the event even happened.
Now, I remember going to the first Supercross event and walking through it
and it was like a truck show in the parking lot.
Yeah.
Like every truck was dope.
It was just a bunch of pre-runners or lifted whatever.
And you're like, man, this is a crazy experience to see all that.
Yeah.
No, they do, they do a really good event.
Obviously they do Monster Jam really good.
They need to like pick up like a, like imagine if they did drifting, what
that would be like, drift games, maybe?
Cause like it's pretty close, yeah.
That's a pretty good job.
Felton, you should just pick up burnout wars because I need pyro, okay?
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Sweet, how was your event going?
It's good, man.
It's like, look, we didn't really get to talk much at, uh, after SEMA, but that
event went well.
You did, it's kind of funny to watch this because you left, you went and you did
your own thing and then Hoonigan brought you back to run the thing that started
it all.
Well, I mean, I knew that they got the space and then I knew that, you know,
certain people were like no longer there, you know, and everybody, like, you
know, it's just cool to be able to.
So I actually made a call and I was like, Hey, you guys want to do this, right?
And like they, I knew they wanted to do a burn yard, right?
So I was like, listen, just how about this?
We'll figure out something.
You just let us run our show.
Like we've got, you know, two years of doing this and we have a rock solid crew,
but also like way more infrastructure than Hoonigan ever had when it came to it
because we invested in all that, right?
Yeah.
Well, you actually became like event organizers.
Yeah.
Hoonigan was 30 different things at once.
And one day a week, like two days a year, we'd be like, Hey, we're going to do
an event and get after it.
And so like it was cool to be how that was, you know, it's a lot of responsibility,
right?
But we got to organize all the cars that are going to be there and all the logistic
around everything.
And so we had like 124 different cars and we rotated them out throughout the week.
Whereas like before, we'd maybe like, you know, you'd max out at like 40 because
you keep them on site and stuff.
And it just became like a wild show because we have a crew of just absolute
psychopaths from all over the world that have been like rolling with us for the
last, you know, two years.
And, you know, it's been fun, right?
We've been built to like family, but it was cool like to actually see it at the
big show and see how it can operate.
And it went off without a hitch.
And it was, it was awesome.
And it took a lot of load off.
I think, you know, the Hoonigan team, because like, obviously they didn't have
to think about all that shit.
It's a, it's a ton of work to like organize that complete shit show.
It's way more work than people realize.
Yeah, it's a lot.
And like it just, I don't know, it was, it was awesome.
And so it was like a culmination.
It was kind of like that final sign off of like, or that, that stamp of approval,
you know, that validation of like, yeah, we got this, you know?
And I think it worked out, I mean, it worked out great for Hoonigan too.
Like, I mean, that place was packed the entire time.
And some absurd percentage of media from SEMA was just the burn yard.
You know, I know, it was crazy, like an overwhelming amount of like, so heard
this from a couple of different sources, but they're like, yeah, it's, it's wild
because like most of the shit that people were seeing on social was just all
burn yards, you know, Freddie on fire or whatever.
Like the dude Devon crawling up the container didn't expect that one.
But like, no, it could have ended really bad.
Yeah, but, you know, he had it before you sent me the video in my feed with
someone standing near the container.
And it just said, almost died at burn yard today.
It was awesome.
And it's, it's the kids super close to the car comes spinning out of me,
kind of runs away.
It's like so raw because it's just filming, not expecting the one of the things
we so in years before we never did this, right?
And we're like, you'd always see like, people hit the container and
they're like, move back, you know?
So what we did this year is actually we put K rails long ways, right?
And to basically go up against the curb.
So we knew that those containers couldn't move this year.
Right.
And so we built it that way, just in case like somebody smacked into it and
like a truck or something, you know, that way it's like, you know, we know
it's not going to take somebody's foot out or something like that.
Did you go to summer shred the first one we ever did at LS Fest?
Nope.
You were there though.
I actually wasn't because I was on a different job.
So like I concepted the whole thing.
Cause we were talking, cause this is when daily transmission was, you know,
doing really well.
And I think we had this conversation of like, man, it'd be really cool to do
in front of a live audience.
We came up with the idea of summer shred and you guys went to Holly LS Fest
and did that there.
And then I remember because you came back and you said to me, uh,
Cleeta said he's going to do the same exact thing, which is like, he's like,
I love this.
Cause we invite, I mean, he was one of our guest drivers was with Leroy.
That was Leroy was new.
Yeah.
He was literally like right after he's like, man, this is sick.
Cause I'm going to steal this.
I was like, you should.
Yeah.
Years later, you know, now he's got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that was, that kind of was a big thing for him.
And the burn, I mean, in that, and I was listening to him talk the other day
that the burnout stuff that he did is the reason that they bought the track
because they started to realize like, ooh, we could build an audience or
something to come.
But I'm stoked to see you guys do burnout wars.
Cause you know that it was always my dream for us to take
burn yard on the road.
I mean, it was like, we did Irwind out and we did Irwind out every week,
every month, six months straight.
Oh yeah.
And we would have kept doing it if the lockdown didn't happen.
The very we remember we did the event the day before the lockdown came.
Yeah.
And someone, because no one knew what COVID was yet.
Yeah.
So everyone's like, I don't know, there's this thing.
It's COVID, but we weren't even calling it COVID.
Then it was still coronavirus.
And we're like, oh, it's coronavirus.
And that kid collapsed in the front row.
Do you remember that?
Oh yeah.
So it was the last burn yard we ever did at Irwind out.
And the kid, it was the biggest one we ever had.
And the kid collapsed and fell over and everyone was like, he's got the corona.
We're all going to die.
We all went over there.
Like, I don't know what should we do?
I don't know.
Spray him with hand sanitizer.
Let's keep it moving.
And then he woke up and we're like, all right, more burnouts.
Let's go.
Let's keep it going.
The, you know, I don't know.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't that thing sell like 10,000 tickets in
like less than a day?
The last one, the last one was, I don't think it was 10, but I think we did 7,500
something.
I mean, it was the largest we could fit for that space.
Yeah.
So, because technically it wasn't the main, you know, the main area.
There's a banger though.
It was crazy.
That was a crazy, crazy night.
That was actually, you know, to see Ken whip the unicorn at like full
anger and that thing, like, you forget how fast the unicorn is until you see it
in a small area that a bunch of other cars were doing stuff in that you
thought was cool.
And then the unicorn is three times the speed.
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
When you see it, you visit, I couldn't make sense of it in my brain.
How fast that was moving and able to change direction.
I know it really doesn't look, it didn't look real.
And this is why the Jim Conner films always worked in a way that like the
real drive films don't work the same because the speed of the all wheel drive
cars coming out of stuff is just like, you can go do a donut and then be
back at 60 miles an hour again in two seconds where it's like harder to do
that in the real drive cars and you just don't get the same experience.
It's like, when you watch that in a small little spot, you're like, oh, yeah,
that's how that looks really fast.
You know, the first year that I was down at Baja when Mason trucks started
coming out, I remember being at a corner and just watching.
By the way, Mason trucks are the all wheel drive trucks.
They were like kind of the guys to paint to pioneer the all wheel drive trophy
truck.
Yeah.
And I remember sitting there watching a corner where like two wheel drive
trucks are coming through and then I saw a Mason truck come through and I was
like, oh, shit, there's no way that any of these guys are catching up because
they were just like instantly just fully wooded out of it.
And they were just shooting out of these corners like slingshots.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that was what made Ken want to start racing.
Baja was like, oh, there's, there's an all wheel drive truck I could move into.
Like that would be a lot of fun because that was just, you know, his style and
how he enjoyed it.
So yeah, man.
Anyway, but back to Bernyard.
Um, yeah, man, it was cool to see that.
So are you guys still doing burnout wars?
You got how many events you have this year?
So we already got eight on the schedule.
Um, we're waiting for, I mean, I don't know when this is going live, but, uh,
it's Christmas special.
But, uh, so we're trying to figure out if, uh, we're trying to just work a deal
out with NASCAR to see exactly what tracks we can do it at.
Um, we did our first one last year at Atlanta Motor Speedway at the
Quaker State 400.
It was awesome.
Cause, you know, realistically NASCAR has gotten, it's not as like aggressive
and, you know, rowdy as it used to be, right?
And sorry about that.
I know that must make you sad.
Well, you know, but, you know, they don't have holes in the helmet for their
cigarettes anymore.
Exactly.
And, you know, it was, it was one of these things where as, as soon as we'd
start lighting off cars, like just all of the crowd was like, what is it?
Familiar sound that I needed in my life, you know, like little kids with
mullets losing their mind, you know, and it was cool.
Like it was like, this is badass, obviously.
We had, we had to work with a really small space too.
So we basically were running demos, but like, it was just cool to see the very
last show being, you know, it had a lightning delay and it pushed us back to
basically 40 or so minutes before the actual race is supposed to start.
So there's like a ton of people already in the stadium, bunch of people walking
in and then the sky comes around, I said, fire it up, fire it up.
We can go now, right?
Cause like the light, you know, you have to wait like 30 minutes or whatever
for the lightning delay.
And so as soon as Zach's truck fired off and then, you know, I was on the
microphone and he finished his run and I'm like yelling something over a
microphone to turn around and I'm looking at the back of the stadium and
like every one of the causeways, right?
So like, you know, where you get like concessions and stuff, well, they're
kind of open air, right?
And they got little like metal fencing and stuff, but it was like every single
square inch where somebody could be standing in this gigantic stadium is packed
with people like going on over there, you know, and then like all of the
balconies for the VIP stuff, like just packed his people.
I was like, Oh, this is cool.
You know, it was just like people like it, you know, I mean, obviously it's
really hard to just, it's really hard not to enjoy like thousand horsepower
blown meth and all VH just, you know, putting it on the chip and just letting
it eat.
Very true.
It's crazy.
Cause when we started all this, even just in the early Hoonigan days, like I'm
talking, you know, Hoonigan, you know, sub 100,000 followers days, um, we would
always share all the Australian burnout cars.
And it's like, how is this not a thing in the States?
Yeah.
Like how is this not a thing?
And it really, I don't think became a thing until the past two or three years.
Like I think now you actually have Americans building Aussie style burnout cars.
Yeah.
And not just that, you have the Aussie shipping cars here.
Of course.
And that's still one of the craziest days that ever existed.
Oh yeah.
You remember that?
Yeah, I almost died.
Yeah, we all did.
It's just all of Long Beach, almost Long Beach.
All of Long Beach, almost died.
Were you behind?
I went with the, I had such a great time with them.
I went with them to power crews.
Oh yeah, they invited me.
They're like, yeah, you got to come mate.
I went there and I fully accepted that this was the end.
I was like, I'm going to die here.
By the way, Brad, do you remember Cranky was full of met, what was it?
Full of methanol?
Yeah.
They just fit like because the pumps kept going and broke and it was just like three
inches of methanol and they're like, all right, yeah, yeah, we're good.
Yeah.
Most casual people.
Yeah.
No, it's funny because like, you know, Mick Brasher was basically on the
circuit with us all year this year.
Yeah.
And like, you always ask about you, by the way.
Dude, definitely come hang with him.
Again, those guys are great people.
And that is what got us kicked out of Long Beach.
Yeah.
But it was worth it.
Yeah.
It was totally worth it.
I rode with Lynchie around Brainerd with no seatbelt, no helmet, going like a
buck 20 passing cars on the drag strip, completely sideways, no brakes.
And I was like, this is it.
This is where I die.
You know, and I'm all right.
Being one of my first summer nets I went to, I watched Lynchie win and it was
the craziest feeling because like, you know, it was the first time I think a
naturally aspirated cars won in like a really long time.
And I feel like he couldn't go into like a better dude because, you know, he's
like Andrew's like a farmer, you know what I mean?
Like he just like rocks up to burnout events and then drives like a full on
psychopath, but I watched this dude do like a 720 into like his tip and was like
one, two, three, four.
And then like he went all the way to the exit little area and then like spun it
into that and then back and it was just like, it's wild to watch.
And like we've had him at a bunch of like burnout wars events throughout the last
year or two.
And like, it's just badass to watch it see.
But like that's one of, you know, we're trying to build a sport here.
Just kind of like Australia.
It's like, it's like an actual like lead.
And, you know, that's always been the effort with burnout wars.
We didn't really do that with Hoonigan.
It was like a showcase, right?
It's just like, hey, just party.
Yeah.
But like to have all the Australians over here and, you know, basically
build a little family with those guys.
But like, you know, it gives this like awesome benchmark for people to see like,
this is where you need to be at, right?
And like all those dudes have been rad to roll with because like they've been
sharing information, like helping dudes out like, hey, like you don't have this
setup, right?
You know, like it just fixens, you know, because it's a very specific kind of
like thing, you know, list of things that you kind of need.
It's not.
160 mile an hour wheel speed at a standstill is a specialized sport.
Yeah.
You'll imagine the trial and error, you know, the first tire to go at 200 miles
an hour, right through the wheel.
Well, yeah.
And then also hard lesson.
Well, also too, like their, their knowledge of like, you know, like they'll
go and run test runs, you know, and they come back and like, guys, like maybe
you should just do this in second gear because like tires are going to go too
quick, you know, like they could, you know, and like just helping everybody
else out with like, hey, how do you do a better run?
You know, and everybody's still got that comradery.
It's not like drag race and we're like, everybody's keeping it.
It's all secretive.
Yeah, all gatekeeping.
The one, I think the thing that was most impressive to me with those guys in when
they came to 621 was how much control they had.
Cause I just figured they just went out willy nilly and hit stuff and whatever,
but they were just like inches off the wall, like totally knew where their car
was, like some crazy situational awareness considering they can't see anything.
Like once the smoke fills the cabin, like they're just like feeling it all out.
It's just Braille and then, but they, they got it.
And then when I went to, when I was in Australia, we went to Sydney Motor
Sports Park to test the, um, the brat with Travis and they have a burnout pit there.
Like a proper burnout pit.
I couldn't believe how small it was.
Like I didn't, like in my, you know, like it always just seems like it's bigger
on camera and you go and you're looking like, man, this is crazy to think the
level of like tipping these guys would do and it's not much bigger.
It's longer, but it's not much bigger than like the area you guys have at
Seymour, like why, like with wise, you don't want it to be, you know, like,
you know, of course it's like a punk rock show.
It makes it more intimate.
Hell yeah.
Well, I think coming from drifting, you look at the burnout stuff, you're like,
yeah, whatever, it's just burnout.
But after riding with those guys in their cars and seeing how much actual
talent it does take to do what they do.
And it makes a lot more sense when you're actually in the vehicle of what
they're doing with the proximity and how they're pitching it in order to go
backwards and come so close to the walls and stuff like that.
I was like, dude, these guys are good at this.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's switch the topic to drifting.
Let's talk drift, Appalachia, because or however, how are you supposed to say
Appalachia for you guys?
Appalachia doesn't matter.
Appalachia.
All right.
Drift, Appalachia, Drift, Appalachia, because you've been doing a bunch of it.
It is probably my favorite thing to see on Instagram.
I've only missed one.
I feel like I wish drifting became this 15 years ago.
It would be interesting to see how different drifting would be, but I'm
really excited about the future of drifting because there, I think there needs
to be a lot more of this.
I think there will be because it is the most entertaining thing to watch.
It looks so good.
Yeah.
I don't even know, like I'm watching some of it.
I'm sitting there being like, is that a second gear, but it doesn't matter
because it looks like the consequences are super high.
We have one course that is second gear.
I mean, very for every car, right?
But most of the guys are running an LS or something like that.
We'll be in second gear.
Um, 80 mile an hour wheel speed stuff.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll get higher there.
But most of the ones in Kentucky are, I mean, you're over a hundred
mile an hour wheel speed.
So that's all third year.
Third to fourth.
So let me ask you guys, how is that set up?
Is that just like a section of road that's just shut down by police?
And then you get like, do you have like basically sections where people can run
and then they have to open it back up to traffic or so?
And before you even get there, just explain to everyone listening home who
may not have this yet in their algorithm, but definitely wants in the algorithm.
What the guys at backgrounds of Appalachia and drift out of Malaysia have
done in terms of like access road access and kind of, I think, changing sort
of what American drifting at least looks like in the middle of the country.
So it's kind of a group of guys that have worked everything together.
The drift group, it's guys from drift, Andy and us drift.
Um, and they have just basically found searched for the best roads in
Appalachia, uh, able to speak with the communities, work it out with the guys
that we can shut down this area of road.
We have a nice little tour every single time we go, we go out and we go to the
community.
We have a nice drive out with all the cars so everybody can see the cars.
You can't spectate the event.
It's too dangerous.
Oh yeah.
Nice.
It's something that you definitely would love to spectate, but you can't
because it's too dangerous.
If you're there, it makes sense.
And even if you see it in the videos, if you go on Instagram or YouTube, look
up, drift, Appalachia, drift, Appalachia, whatever it is.
And, uh, you will be amazed.
It is really, really fun to watch.
It looks sick because it's like, it's like Grand Prix to Formula one is like,
this is like the Grand Prix because it's like you're on public roads
technically, right?
But it's like the craziest twisties through a mountain and you got trees
aligned and everything.
It's like tarmac rally stage, spec roads, but it's also the quality.
Like some, there's some great drivers are showing up, but did you see,
because I know this, have you seen the Plymouth satellite that runs it?
Yeah, dude, like it's wild.
I was talking to him.
Kylie Mac, dude to be such a, it's so cool to see that car on those roads.
It just feels so.
And he's so cool, calm, collected, he's very consistent.
He's one of my favorite drivers to drive with.
Yeah.
And I was telling you early about it.
It's fun for me and the Miata to be stuck behind him.
You can't see it.
But when I'm driving behind Kylie, I always find myself watching his car and
not looking at what the fuck I'm actually, you can't see around it.
Not even that.
It's just, it's, it's mesmerizing to see that car swinging out.
And when you see it, it just doesn't make sense, but it totally does.
It's like, we're in Appalachia.
This is kind of some moonshine running shit right here.
And it just looks so good.
Like I've seen it.
Sounds cool.
I've seen muscle cars.
A lot of guys have tried it.
Like there's been Camaros and a bunch of different stuff.
You know, obviously Vaughn built that Mustang back in the day.
And like I've seen them out on track and it looks cool, but there's something
about seeing muscle cars on like good old back roads that feel like there's
something out of like a country music song and it's just so good.
Well, I think that Drift Appalachia is so unique and cool in the fact that
it's all American bread out there anyway, right?
And the roads are brilliant.
Like, I mean, it's so good and the community is really supportive of it too.
So when we go out there, we go downtown, you know, it's like, we're going to go
out and we're going to spend all the money we can.
It's usually small towns.
The organizers are really good because it's back roads of Appalachia used to
also and still do.
They do a bunch of hill climb stuff.
They're involved in the rally stuff.
And I think they've been really good at working with all the communities in
that area to not just get good access, keep it safe, make it cool, but also to
make all the communities feel like they're getting something out of it.
Well, as a driver, and I don't know if a lot of people know, we don't even
know where we're going.
Oh, really?
You get an email.
Oh, I love this.
You want to go?
I love this.
You want to go?
And everybody's waiting.
Everyone.
You want to go?
It doesn't you want to go?
Yeah, but I mean, if you're into drifting right now, you know, if you want to, you
want to be there, everybody wants to go from professional down to grassroots.
Doesn't matter.
Everybody wants to go see it, check it out.
Yeah.
And you're just waiting for the call, right?
It's basically, Hey, here's your email.
We're going to let's call it Kentucky.
Yeah.
Somewhere.
And we'll let you know closer, but you have to lock in for this date to this date,
whatever.
So you get the email, you check that out, then you reserve your hotel.
You get a pick of one or two, because it's really small towns.
Yeah, you pick that.
And then you drive there and you got a week pretty much allotted to staying at
this place wherever you are.
And then the night of the shoot out another email, which is basically map
quest, you're not allowed to take a picture of it.
You can't do anything.
It's basically map quest.
All right.
Six AM, get up.
We're meeting at this spot.
So that's the keep away all the other traffic and anybody who could come from
the outside, I mean, we can't even tell our friends, right?
You're allowed to bring one person to kind of help you out.
Some guys bring a couple more if you have a really serious car or something,
but it keeps it small.
It keeps it tight and they try to, you know, kind of cycle through some drivers,
right?
Like if you've done a couple, let's bring in some new guys, get them something.
Um, but what a cool feeling.
And drivers in the morning, nobody knows where you're going.
And then, you know, you're just kind of rock, rock, rock, rock, just cruising
around and race cars is like looking through the mist of the mountains.
Like, where the fuck are we going?
But it's like everything you're looking at is like, is this the road?
Cause this is sick.
And then some of the roads you get on, you're like, I don't know if I can do this.
And then that ends up being the road, you know, you're driving down it.
And you get, you drive past them.
They're like, Oh, how would you think of the drive in?
It's like, man, that's pretty neat.
Like, well, that's what we're driving today.
It's like, fuck everybody's looking at each other like, who's going first?
Nice.
So other than being like an old school rave where you got to like, go meet a guy
in a park and then get like a map, how do they do the shut down?
So is it actually like police shutdown roads or?
Yeah.
So, um, you know, it'll be run pretty much.
Let's call it nine a.m. to four p.m.
And every hour on the hour, 15 minutes, they allow traffic through.
And there's not much.
Yeah.
And most of the time people, it's a small town, so people get
keen to it and they definitely want to see and drive through and they're just
looking, but imagine you just live there and you pull up and you see all these
dudes pulled off to the side of the road with fucking parts flying everywhere.
Like if you crash, it's not, you're just picking up your bumper.
Like there's stuff everywhere.
So it's wild looking.
Who is so of all the ones you've been to, right?
Like who are some of the guys that nail it, like the fastest cars there?
Like that they can really just turn it up and just bang.
I mean, it's a handpicked group and a lot of guys are really good, but you see
some of the usual suspects that one of my good friends from St. Louis,
Andrew Lewis, he's a fast driver.
He's really fun to chase.
I really enjoy chasing him because he'll bring you up a gear.
Okay.
But I mean, seeing any of the pros come out there and do something.
Chelsea does.
He's always doing something stupid.
Chelsea's got a hundred PSI in the rear of a stock Mustang going ham.
Reese Marin is, I call him paint to paint because, you know, it's really narrow.
But Reese, he don't give a shit.
He's going from paint to paint every single time, just swaying off the bumper.
And I was like, well, I don't really want to chase him because what if he goes off?
Then I'm going to hit him, but I also want to chase him because it looks sick.
Yeah.
But I think some of the most impressive are Matt Kauffman and Matt Field.
Oh, yeah.
Matt Kauffman does Matt Kauffman stuff on the mountain.
You know, I can see that.
Like Matt Kauffman at Laguna Seca and to turn one too.
Yeah.
It's just, yeah.
Exactly.
But, you know, seeing that on the mountain is something different.
And then seeing the C8 this year with Matt Field was, I mean, the sound of it
just coming through the mountains, you know, he's coming.
And then you just can't explain the speed of it.
You can see everybody else relatively moving fast.
You have to.
Like it doesn't matter what cut from 200 to 600 horsepower.
You're all kind of moving the same speed.
Yeah.
You kind of have to.
I feel like this is the first thing I've seen in drifting in a long
time that's like made me really excited to want to go shoot drifting again.
Like when I first met you, the, the bashes were a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed going to the bashes and not so much because the driving was
top, top level, but the, the mood, the vibe was super rad.
Whether it was where you guys had no star bash, low and star bash.
You know, obviously East Coast bash, right?
All star bash.
They just had like a cool vibe and it was a really cool era.
And then since then, I feel like a lot of stuff kind of moved, you know, to bigger
tracks, which is cool.
And the Laguna looks like a lot of fun, but it's, it is what it is.
Yeah.
This is like, man, I could see going out there and just like making a movie.
Like it's really good.
I mean, for me, like I really love grid life and all of those things like that.
And, you know, the bucket list tracks, that's something in drifting that, you
know, I have to do it going out to Walkins Glen or whatever.
It's like, yeah, I have to, like I just got to do it.
But the first time I went out to the mountain, I was hooked.
I was like, this is what I've been dreaming of my whole life.
I grew up on back roads like this.
I did this when I shouldn't have.
So I really enjoyed that part of it.
And I was like, you know, there's a little shithead in me that loves this, but
also is like, I really pride myself on being a clean driver and not having any
mistakes.
And that's something I really thrive on out there is like, well, I like to go
really fast and just feed me pavement and I'll figure it out.
You know, and I think that's a really enjoyable part of drifting that I
think I don't really care for at the track.
Like I don't care to really flick it and drag the wall and lose a bumper for no reason.
But if it's in the mountain, I'll risk it a little harder.
And it's kind of weird.
Yeah, that setting is like there's I mean, there's something just mystical about it,
you know, like setting is everything, right?
And the way it looks is so sick.
Like on on camera, it looks really badass.
So the best is at the end of the day once, you know, in the morning, everybody's
nervous as some of the guys have never been there before.
You're nervous.
You're trying to memorize the road and what to do.
Everybody's driving fairly far apart or in their own groups.
I'm driving with this guy.
I'm driving with that guy.
But once you get to the end of the day or even on day two, when everybody's a
little bit hungover and starting not to care, but you memorize the road, you're
starting to gel with each other.
You had the night to talk about what you did.
And that's basically one of the most fun parts of it is day one.
Once you're done and you come back, you're like, we survived something.
You feel like you came back from war.
You're like, who's here?
You look around and you're like, he made it through the night.
I mean, it's no shit when you drive through the course.
Sometimes you don't know who's off.
You could just see a roof and everybody's still drifting.
And we're like, oh, I don't know.
And then you get back to the lineup and you're like, who we missing?
But, but, you know, you get back to day one from day one, you're talking about it.
And that's when we go hang out with everybody downtown, talk about the day
and everybody kind of collects himself.
Day two, everybody comes out way too hard.
Different location or same location?
Sometimes they do a different location, right?
But most of the time now it's kind of sticking to the same one.
Now confidence is through the roof.
Well, when the confidence gets up, yeah, day two, that's when it's like,
shit's going down today.
That's when you get 10 cars out there at the same time.
Everybody's just on each other's door and yeah, it's loose.
It's American toge.
Like I think we've never really had that.
I mean, I know there's been a lot of like illegal toge stuff that happens.
But this was cool because I think Europe had a version of it where they
started drifting a lot of the hill climb events.
So you'd see that, especially Eastern Europe, man, that looks really cool.
Obviously you don't see as much of it coming out of Japan.
Not saying it's not happening, but you're not seeing as much of it coming
out of Japan as we did when we were younger.
And this is just like, it looks great.
It looks awesome.
It's one of those things where it makes me, like if I was watching that as a 20
year old kid, I'd be like, yep, that's what I want to be looking for.
Yep, exactly.
And I think it's something that people can aspire to.
You know, it's like you have to put in the work to get there.
You, everybody's watching is basically kind of where it goes.
It's like, we're watching for the good drivers who are consistent because
we're all a team out there.
That's, you know, he goes aside.
We all have to be a team or we're all going to die.
Oh yeah.
So that's kind of it.
We're all driving together and it becomes kind of a family thing out there.
It's really interesting.
But for you, the cinematography of it, the videos.
It's just amazing.
I mean, even just the regular, anything like that, even just the iPhone stuff,
you're like, that's a killer shot.
It all just looks so good.
And if you're standing on the side there and you realize like,
shit, that's 300 feet down.
Yeah.
Don't step back when it gets real close.
I, like three years ago, I started writing a screenplay that I'm actually
finishing right now.
And it's basically like a story of like a modern moonshine setup.
And one of the reasons I got back into it, I started writing the script before I
left Hoonigan, and I got back into writing the script because of watching
those for that.
I was like, I got to go film this.
This is just so sick.
I say, like I never left drifting.
I've been drifting for years and I love it.
And I've always loved it, but it was stagnant for me for a while.
I can admit that.
And this just jolted it back in.
I feel like a little kid.
That's why my car is on a rotisserie right now.
You know, I was like, I need more.
I don't know what it is, but I need more.
But if I don't need more, I have the Miata.
So, yeah, but I mean, it's breathe the life back into me and drifting.
And I full bore.
I will never miss one.
Oh, yeah.
If I'm invited, I'm going.
We need to see Dan with about 800 horsepower.
Dan doesn't even need horsepower.
I know Dan just needs.
I know he didn't need it.
Doesn't mean he can't have it.
Well, let me tell you what, I just got my motor back and I think we're
going to have at least 800 horsepower.
Is this the one Jay?
It's a 2J 2J.
Yeah, so fully built 2J.
And I'm going to put the sequential on.
Oh, I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Which one do you have?
Albums ST6, but it's the big one.
It's actually out of a V8 supercar.
So I have the V8 supercar set up, which means I have to make kind of a
little bit of more modification.
This is luckily, I think, you know, a guy who fabricates pretty well.
Yeah, yeah.
Sick.
It's kind of hard to get him to do it sometimes.
Well, maybe the mountain is going to breathe life back into dance.
Speaking of unfinished projects, how's your truck doing?
Which one?
I don't know.
What do you have nowadays?
I'm paying attention.
So I got my K5 still.
That runs great.
Makes way more power than it needs to.
It's like over a hundred more horsepower with the new motor set up.
And it's like way more aggressive.
Right.
Just over a hundred from what?
So it used to make 733.
Now it makes 861.
Yeah, definitely a responsible amount of power, I know.
But it's, you know, it's still great, you know, fires up every time.
You know, it's just, you know, it's, it's reliable.
It's a big block.
You know what I mean?
It's not like stretched to its limit by any means, you know, still pretty
like you could daily it if you can afford it.
Yeah.
Oh, I hear you.
I mean, I have a van that now it's still working out, still teething some issues.
But engine wise, it's great.
And it's like 700 is like the beginning of the tune.
It's like, I don't know why I need this.
Yeah, well, but it's cool to have.
Yeah.
And then I just, we just got the Tahoe running.
I did a shakedown run actually just last week.
And it's completely undriveable on the street.
I mean, it's drivable, but it's like as soon as you breathe any throttle onto
it, it just blows the drag radials off.
So you, you built that to be at this first that.
Yes.
Originally, I mean, that was like when this first that was sort of booming for us.
Like I'm going to build a TV T car, obviously a lot has changed since then.
We all have TV T's no longer a thing.
So what is it now?
Is it still just a drag car or is it going to become?
So I want to, I, because I, again, I built it to do like drag and drive stuff.
And it was like real fast.
And then, you know, we just nuked everything.
And then once we started doing burnout wars, I was like, well, I've always
wanted a big like eight, 10, 71, whatever, like sticking through the hood on something.
So I was like, let's just, you know, I'll build it for burnouts.
But like I kept the four wheel drive system.
Right.
Yeah.
Cause like, you know, four wheel drive burnouts look way sicker.
Who had that red Chevy pickup truck?
I was all wheel drive at.
Oh, that thing was ripping.
Dude, that, yeah, that thing eats.
It was just cool to watch center access doughnuts in a pickup truck in a full
in like full size and a relatively like simple setup.
I mean, like same basically front diff and stuff that I run and transfer case it rips.
So, but yeah, built that, built like a, you know, blown 427 for it.
And, you know, it's, it's like way too race car now.
It was supposed to stick kind of like it was supposed to like toe the line of like
street car, but now it's like just even just shaking it down.
I was like, I have to have a race seat in this thing because like there's no way.
What's in there now?
Like a bench or something?
No, like a big comfy leather GM.
A barca lounger, but yeah, basically like a, so, but yeah, it's, it's rad.
So Supe is actually going to finish up the wiring on it this week.
Tomorrow is going to take it over to his shop and then we can actually finally dyno it.
We took it to the dyno before SEMA and then we're having some problems with the trans
controller communicating with the transmission.
So we had to break it in only had like first and second gear.
And just for some reason wouldn't shift up.
We got that figured out.
And so yeah, like I'm excited to see what kind of power it actually puts down.
But like C to the pants dyno, it's definitely making over a thousand
foot pounds like effortlessly.
So that's rad.
Completely unnecessary.
And then the, the turbo escalate.
I got a, I got a, I forgot that you, I thought that was supposed to be Mike's.
It is, but I gave, he has the title I gave to him, but like he had nowhere to store it.
And I was like, I, let's just do something stupid with it.
And, you know, Chris Clark or whatever.
Anyway, like I was like, Hey, you know what?
Some of it's got this like turbo kits that they're making now.
Like let's just do like a budget build to see if we can make 600 wheel for less
than 6,000 bucks all in with the cost of the car.
So it was like completely stock motor.
I wound up putting my spare trans for the Tahoe in it, right?
So that obviously would blow the budget way out of the water, but figured like,
you know what, that 4L 65 would have just nuked itself like instantly.
So like monster garage rules, like it's a $5,000 budget,
but Jesse just gave you a $20,000 transmission.
So you're fine now.
But that thing eats and it's so stupid how well like it pisses me off
because like it is a 300,000 mile stock LQ nine with a turbo on it,
giant injectors and like two fuel pumps and just bigger fuel lines.
That's it.
And a tune, right?
HP tuners, whatever.
And like it made 895 foot pounds of torque on the dyno.
Like we were like, how is this not just throwing a rod out them?
They're always the ones.
I think those are always the ones just try not to build power and then you build power.
Yeah, like Ron was like, I'm going to build a 400 horsepower EVO
and somehow he built an 850 horsepower EVO.
He's like, I wasn't trying to make that power.
Meanwhile, everyone else I know is like, we're going to make a thousand horsepower.
And it's like 727.
Yeah. Like what?
What? I thought it was a thousand.
Like, I don't know.
It didn't work out that way.
Yeah. When you don't try, it just comes easier.
Yeah, but I will say the compression on that motor,
so I could turn it over with a three eighths ratchet with all the spark plugs in it.
And like the power curve looks like a bell curve.
So like you cram a bunch of boost into it and like it'll make the power
starts like tea and off like whatever.
But it was fun for doing, you know, multi block long burnouts and stuff.
Yeah. We Ron had designed those.
Those spinners. Yeah.
It was Cuban link gold spinners and put those on it.
That was fun, you know, but I got a I smoke the transmission in it
because I was happy, you know, that was.
We welded the diff because it basically the diff said no more after.
Yeah, you know, you don't have to explain to either of us why you welded the diff in.
Yeah, but then we didn't do it right, right?
So basically it caused a bunch of binding in the rear end.
So it was like trying to drag a boat, right?
And then, you know, driving it around, doing a couple more
multi block long burnouts with it, because, you know, that's what it's for.
Yeah, might have got that trans up to about 500 degrees,
which is not good in the world of transmissions.
So that happened.
So I got to pull that thing out.
So that's really the only truck that's not running right now.
You still got the Corvette still?
Yeah, got the second one.
I had that Grand Sport for a while.
I sold that to Freddie LSX. OK.
And then I wound up, I missed it a lot and I found this like impossible deal
on a Z06 in Florida. Oh, OK.
And then Z06 is a move. Yeah, I love that.
It's one of the Z06.
Changed my mind about Corvettes.
Yeah, it's one of those cars when I drove.
It's a C6. Yeah, C6.
C6, I think is one of the greatest cars.
It's great. It's fantastic.
Like because it's not revs, it's fun to drive.
It handles really well.
You could take it stock to the track and rip like it's fun.
I will say that it's an earlier one.
So like it doesn't have like all the heat and sound insulation.
Yeah. So like the the center console, if you put your phone in it,
it will like go into limp mode.
Like the phone will be like overheating
because it gets like a billion degrees in the torque tube area.
I'll tell you a quick story on that.
When it first came out, it wasn't even available for sale.
The dealership yet GM gave me one when I was at Rides Magazine.
And you know, the bull run rally?
Yeah. So it was like, yeah. Goldbergs thing, right?
Yeah, it was kind of like team move, gun ball rally.
And we did New York to LA.
And I was still like an absolute shithead at that point in my life.
And we were cruising through Utah for like, I don't know,
like two hours at over 150.
And we got to we got to the hotel that night
and I went to go take my luggage out
and it had melted to the carpet in the back.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like the actual like plastic from the luggage
had just melted into the carpet because it got so hot.
Yeah. Similar story.
Yeah. When I got so I bought that in Florida, right?
And Shannon from Hobby Shop Garage had like
picked it up and like stored it for me until I could fly there.
And then I did like heads cam.
By the way, funny thing when I pulled the valve cover off
that I wish I would have filmed this.
But like one of the valve retainers was like kicked up
and it was like ready to drop a valve
because like that's why I got it so cheap.
Nobody ever fixed the heads or anything like that.
And you could like rock the valve like this in the seat.
Yeah, probably not good.
But yeah, I did the heads cam stuff
and then did burnout wars in Orlando.
And then I drove it from Orlando to Houston
and I did it in like eight hours, right?
Which is like coming.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that's with three gas stops, right?
So that was like a, you know, pretty consistent.
One fifty five ish, you know, cruise control.
It got great gas control.
Yeah, like, you know, I left really early in the morning
and then, you know, and like,
dude, that thing was getting like 19 miles of the gallon
with a cam like that's six gear.
Like it would do like 30 miles.
So does control work at 150? Yes, yes, it does.
It's an early, you know, it's an 07.
So, you know, they didn't have all the bullshit controls.
Keep pressing the plus.
It's a so it's a T 56 car.
And so the gearing so long, like with the cam,
like you can't even use six gear and tell them in like 90.
Yeah. You know, and then like it 150,
it's at like 2400 RPM, you know, so it's like it's so wide.
Yeah, it's a it's a great car.
I absolutely love those.
I never liked that.
I didn't either.
But that that car made me change my mind.
And now I got a same man, like slammed,
kitted C5s on cool wheels.
I'm into.
I didn't get to finish my sentence.
I never liked him.
But but I did get to drift one.
And then I was really mad at the last 10 to 15 years of my life.
I spent fucking building shit cars.
And then nothing just works.
Yeah, you put coilovers on it. OK, you're done. Yeah.
I mean, look, for the money, right?
Like a C606 is basically unbeatable for the dollar amount.
Like so I got mine for like 30 grand, right,
which is like pretty that's super low, right?
But for like that, you could get them so for like 40,000 bucks,
you could get a pretty nice one.
That's like owned by a guy with new balances.
Yeah, basically, you know, and like they are
like you can't you can't match that level of performance for that dollar amount,
you know, and it's like it's a it's a sick as fuck starting point, right?
You don't even have to like put.
I mean, yeah, coilovers makes it way better.
But, you know, you can just drop it down on the on the
what are those things called?
Because it's got the it's got the transverse leaf springs, you know,
so you just put the stops all the way down that like it dumps.
Marriage suspension.
Yeah, exactly.
And like dead.
Yeah, they didn't change much.
It works. It works.
It works enough. It's not the best.
You know, it's a fun car to drive.
You know what, though? It's numb.
It's kind of boring.
The drifting. Oh, okay.
Drifting, sir.
The trick is the crazy thing.
I had never driven one with a stock shifter
and then that one had it was all stock, right?
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
It felt so sloppy and gross.
And like the moment I changed the shifter,
just like the shifter alone was like, oh, it feels way tight.
Like everything just felt so much better.
So I will say shifter definitely helps.
Probably, you know, fresher suspension too.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah.
Um, what do you guys got planned for the new year?
Anything good?
I got to finish my S14.
It's it's really not close.
Yeah, I saw the photo of it.
It looks as far from finished as it could possibly.
It's getting further away.
Yeah, every time I work on it,
it gets further away from being done.
Take it from someone who's been there.
It won't be bad.
Sell it.
It won't be bad.
I mean, for me, this is I've always wanted to race car.
I want to build myself a race car.
So I've taken my time a little bit.
Yeah.
As if I ran out of budget and then.
Are you making content about this?
Yes. Yeah.
Well, I mean, I only say it like that
because the other day I got to work on something
and not use a camera while I was doing it.
This is so nice.
Well, that's why it's where it is right now
because I was making content about it.
And then I felt bad about it for a long time.
And then I built basically the same setup
for one of my friends with no cameras.
And it was great.
And it was great.
It was fantastic.
And I was like, well, there's no reason I can't do this myself
because I literally just did it.
So I'm going to do that and just kind of leave something on
in the background just just live stream it.
Just, you know, I just do explain what happened.
I just want to I just want to show people what I've done.
And I would really just more like to show it off
as I'm driving this season in drift Appalachia
and drift into GP. Sounds like fun.
Oh, yeah. Great life to this year.
We'll see. Yeah.
Like I said, I mean, I love the big tracks,
their bucket list things.
But if there's a mountain anywhere near it,
and I don't care what it is that don't invite me to anything.
Unless it's the mountain.
I like this.
I like this new reinvigorated danger.
And it's good. I really love it.
Hell yeah, brother.
So guys, I brought this up before I want to say it live.
I think we need to do like a reunion.
It's good to have you guys around down.
Yeah. I mean, I see you a little bit.
I haven't seen you in forever.
Yeah. But I think like get the whole crew together.
Go do something.
You know, I've been itching to just get a bunch of shitty cars.
It's all this is how the story always starts.
Let's let's let's spit some.
Let's spend the next time and it's spitball and some ideas.
What do we do?
OK, here's what we do, right?
We kidnap everybody, right?
OK, that's that's obviously that's how it starts.
We get a bunch of we get it.
We find a kidnap everyone.
Yeah, we find a bunch of jalapes.
And then, you know what?
We we should go on an adventure,
preferably either on or off road.
Preferably if we're doing an off road,
it should be in stuff that shouldn't be off road.
100 percent. Yeah.
And like Mexico.
Mexico works, you know.
And then, you know what?
We should just go have some fun, you know, if stuff breaks.
Well, we try to fix it.
And then, if if if not abandon it.
Yeah, we leave it there with the title and, you know, the thank you note.
I mean, I like how big do you think we should go?
You think we do like a cross country trip
with like a mixture of everything in it?
It'd be kind of cool.
If there's a way we can include, like, you know, other stuff,
like, I don't know, off shore, raceboats, helicopters, you know.
Yeah, all the ways to die.
Everybody pick a car, right?
You pick a car.
And then when we show up,
just straws for which car you actually get.
Everyone's like, I don't want the car.
Scott, I don't want the car.
Scott, I'm like, um, so anyway, guys.
So this is a really interesting Audi.
The power steering system runs off of a special mineral oil
that's only available in three states.
Have fun. Lack of funeral work.
Yeah. Some I've always wanted to, you know,
watching the hill climb stuff in Colorado where they're doing it.
And like, you know, second gen Camaro's and like G bodies and stuff
looks so fun, but like something just in the dirt with like an old, you know.
So here's the idea that I had.
I had briefly, I thought about was every person gets to
and we'll keep it a secret for everybody else.
But I'll I'll be like, you know, generally, I like being the ringleader.
So I'll figure out all these pieces.
But I'll work with everyone or everyone gets to pick one thing we do.
But then no one else knows what we're doing.
So it's like, there's the Zach event and like the Zach event could be
what we're going to do in Colorado.
But then no one knows how to prep their car
because they just don't know what they're going to get into.
Like they don't know what we're going to do.
And then every day is like, I don't know, Dan's decided that we're going to
we're going to call this mountain road and I'll die.
And it's like, you know, everybody gets like a different thing
that becomes like, OK, this is the day.
We should just cause elements of danger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it should be the end forever.
No, I just think it would be.
Did you ever do one of the what did you guys?
Did you do any of the big adventure trips?
Or were you always stuck at home working?
What are you talking about?
Yeah, which one did you do?
All of our shit worked because I was there working on it.
I know. So you're saying because you didn't go to Baa for either of the trips.
Did you? I did go.
Yeah, you went to the second trip.
What was that? The second trip?
Was it the second trip or the first trip?
No, I didn't go on the first one.
OK, the second because yeah, I went on the second.
Did you come on the second one?
Yeah, I came. No, no, no, no, no.
You went on the jump in trucks.
Oh, you. Oh, that.
We drove the frigging Explorer with no windshield.
Now you went on that one.
You went on that one. That was a good trip.
I wasn't there for that.
The three story bunk bed.
I fell off the top. Yeah.
Brooks and Dan, man.
Brooks and Dan, because like for me, the, you know, it's years past now.
And I look back and it's like, I think Scumbug was one of the best trips.
Oh, yeah. Super fun.
Felt super dangerous the whole time.
But even that road trip that you and I took in
when we went, we bought the Oldsmobile and drove in the rain with no
because you remember the Oldsmobile had no roof.
Yeah, like just it wasn't a commercial rain.
It was just ruthless.
We drove in the one of the worst, like Midwest rain so much for like two hours.
It just didn't stop.
There was like water standing in the bottom.
Like you'd push the gas pedal down and you'd hear like splashing noises
because there's so much water in the car.
And it was just great.
I miss all they were all miserable while they were happening.
But like I look back and I need one of those in my life.
You know, I forgot about that.
I really enjoyed with Vince and Mike, of course, when we were in Mexico.
But Vince and I drove past our Airbnb
because we were like, we got to jump this thing.
We never even got to jump.
And I saw the guy with the excavator and I was like, fucking drive up to him.
I was like, Hey,
speak English.
He's like, yeah, man, what's up?
And I was like, you build a jump.
He's like, absolutely.
How big?
And I was like, we got to go tell the guys we found the right guys.
Like, yeah, well, anyway, I own this part of the beach and we can do whatever we want.
He's just built this massive jump.
Yeah, we just airing, airing that thing.
And then you guys were jumping out of that pool too, right?
You found the oh, yeah, we found the abandoned like so good.
Yeah, that was actually the pool session, that thing felt like it felt like, you know,
you'd found like a six spot to skate.
Yeah, like that whole trip.
It's way different to throw a skateboard over something into a pool
than it is to drive a fucking Bronco into it or an Explorer with no windshield.
Oh, yeah, that was a fun trip, man.
I forgot all about that.
It was really good.
Yeah, we did some cool shit.
For sure.
Yeah, but like those those adventures were really fun.
I mean, they they to be fair, some of them really sucked when it was like,
oh, yeah, that should be a two hour drive and it took like 13.
Yeah, it's all fun now.
They forget those parts like remember like overheating in the middle of like Woodward
and having to push that thing kind of.
But like it's all a blur now.
I also just remember how cool it was to just cruise it and like sit in the back and like,
yeah, it's pretty cool.
Dude's pulling up on like 30 inch rims on like.
Yeah, it was a good time.
That was good.
The no, that would be a that would be a fun one.
I think we should try to put that together.
So yeah, anyway, something.
Comment below if you want to see this happen.
And no comment below because like we don't have like Hoonigan budgets like that anymore.
So comment below if we can stay at your house, fix cars in your garage,
eat your food, ask your mom and dad.
You know, that's fantastic.
Just staying on stranger's couch.
Just crash along.
You never know what you get into.
I asked Brian if I could crash on his couch today and here I am on a podcast.
Look, look, that's what he said the last hour and a half.
He just showed up and here we are.
So well, everybody, um, happy holidays.
Merry Christmas.
All that good stuff.
Yeah.
So thanks for coming out guys.
Yeah, no worries, man.
No plan.
We talked about a bunch of random stuff.
Hopefully it makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So can't wait to go on a trip.
You guys ready for a trip?
What's a good time of year?
Probably when it's really hot.
Let's go tomorrow or really cold.
Not like don't even hash it out.
It should no plan.
Don't even hash it out.
No plan.
We'll pick up any on the way out and we'll go get hurt.
Just text text.
Just text somebody.
We'll pick you up.
Remember, we're not texting anybody.
It's kidnapping is where we started.
You forgot to write it down.
All right, right.
First rule.
First rule of adventures.
We're just kidnapping or you forgot.
Mid January, you know, starting the mountains.
Yeah.
And then just basically just, we could just scroll through.
We could just scroll my marketplace saves and just hit something.
And just see what we get.
If this is the last episode of this podcast, you know where to find us.
In a junkyard in Idaho.
Try to figure out someone else's basement that we don't know.
Oh, boys.
Anyway, thank you very much guys for coming on.
It's good to see you both.
And yeah, thanks for having us.
Yeah, man.
See you.
This is a special thanks to all of you who not only watched all the way to the end,
but helped make very vehicular a massive success already this year.
Thank you very much from all of us here at the show.
Happy holidays.
We'll see you next year.
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